Thank you. Very informative. You mentioned in the video about heating the room to 74 while it was 40 outside. Just as a reference how large is the room? I’m thinking of getting BK Sirroco 25 to heat my living room/kitchen area which is round 800-1000 sqft w high ceiling in Long Island. And like you want to avoid using the blower, if possible. Thanks
The stove is in my living room, which opens up to a dining room and a center stairwell to the 2nd floor. Approximately 750 sq ft on the main floor. This arrangement is good for heat distribution even to the 2nd floor. The stove can put out more heat if you open up the air control but then it becomes too warm in the living room.
I want one of these. I currently have a buck, non cat. It's a very large insert. Fan is LOUD. and it NEVER burns more than 6 hours. There MIGHT be some coals left by 8-9 hours. But NO heat
I had mine installed in May 2015, I still remember my first burn on a very cold October morning later that year. It exceeded my expectations I had going in. Great stove.
Your video was basically what I was looking for because one of the main reasons - and selling points - is that most of the Blaze King stoves have a very long duration of heating before having to reload the stove. One thing I would have really appreciated is if you had a clock or up-timer to keep track of how long it had been since you lit the fire. I know that you narrated occasionally how long it had been going but I missed one of the "into the burning cycle" that you said so I had to go back and try to find it. Small point, though, and I really liked the video overall.
I recently put in a BK King woodstove (not an insert) and it works the same, it is a KE40 model. It seems too good to be true, all the stuff you hear about how long the stoves can hold a fire. With 6 average size pieces of Dougas Fir my stove burned 20 hours. The stove stayed hot another 2 hours, enough to keep the house at 70 while it is 33 outside. When I load it more fully, it becomes a daily task to fill about the same time each day. It is truly liberating, and the price tag is definitely worth it. My old stove would burn through that in 3 to 4 hours, requiring me to get up at night to keep it going. No more. And I can put my hand on the stove pipe, a testament to how much heat is getting utilized inside rather than out. Also there is no smoke, occasionally a slight wisp if the catalyst is engaged. My son in law couldn't believe his own eyes when he was over. What a great stove.
How is this stove working for you 3 years later? I heat my home with only wood and this weeks to be a great replacement for my old Olympic insert. Thanks in advance.
It works great, I’ve had it since 2015. The catalytic combuster was replaced because of damage by a chimney sweep. Replaced for free under the 10yr warranty. It always amazes me at the amount of heat it can deliver. I run it very low because it will push temps into the 80s very quickly. I would buy it again.
I'm sitting here waiting for the stove to get to the hot setting.And don't hardly feel any heat coming off of the stove yet. That's the only part I miss about the old stoves, you were able to back up to the stove to warm your hind end😅
Once it is hot you will be able to do just that. I like to sit for a few minutes in front of it. Amazing how well it works. Had mine on the lowest setting yesterday and it still put out a lot of heat for about 16 hrs.
Once a year - but based on the chocolate brown look inside the chimney liner instead of a black tar like appearance I would think I could skip a year. Also I’m in the NE so oak hardwood is what I use primarily. Once a year in late winter is usually when I have it done.
Your "low burn" looks much more aggressive than my low burn on the same Princess insert. There aren't any flames visible on my low burn, the cat temp is well into the active range, stovetop temp (Not combustor temp) is around 300 to 350F. Your stove's thermostat might need to be adjusted to allow somewhat less air into the stove when it's turned down to minimum (fully clockwise on the Princess insert) or you door seal isn't tight enough. With a FULL load of mixed hardwood we'll get 18+ hrs burn time on low. Blaze King suggests you fill the firebox tightly. On low, the wood smolders and the catalytic combustor does all the work burning the smoke while it's still in the stove, then releasing its heat into your house. If you want to see flames on "low" you'll need an EPA non-cat stove with secondary burn which will probably drive you out of the house with too much heat, and consume 50% more fuel. The Cat stove is the wisest choice.
It takes a little while for the flames to die down if I’m on the lowest setting, for the first 30mins to an 1hr I will see flames then no flames for the rest of the burn. I did check the door seal and it was good last season. WRT to the air control aka temp control you may be right but it does seem to do what it is supposed to do and that is it keeps the combustion temp of the cat in the active zone throughout the burn. I run it at a setting that shows a tan coating on the the inside. If I go all the way down to low I see black shiny creosote on the inside after a burn. So I want to avoid that.
@@n121pp67 I get a creosote buildup also. But it's on the inside of the door glass as well as on other areas off the firebox. That's normal - when burning a cooler, smoldering fire in any airtight stove. The difference is that the combustor burns all that tar/creosote smoke and prevents that smoke from reaching your chimney. And the place where you do not want creosote is not in the stove but in the chimney itself. Creosote buildup inside the stove is normal on lower temp burns. So if you burn a not-so-hot fire (so you're not opening windows and burning too much wood) and keep the combustor temp in the "active zone"....then you will be operating the stove within its parameters. You can clean the glass by burning the stove at a higher setting for a while. I prefer to use a single-edge razor blade in a paint scraper handle to carefully scrape away the buildup. More than ten years of cleaning the door glass that way. Again, please don't worry about creosote formation in the stove - the catalyst is there to burn the smoke and release that heat into thee house.
@@svensvensen8406 If the dirty glass bothers you, and I don't see why it should since there aren't any flames to watch anyway, and you want to quickly remove creosote, there is a product called "Speedy White" Hearth and Stove Cleaner. I'm sure there are other brands as well. You just spray it on like Windex and wipe away the creosote. A lot easier than scraping with a razor blade.
Having used Wood Stoves for Years, the Fact that these are stated to Burn for 12+ Hours is Remarkable. Airflow is the Enemy, though Required for Continuous Electron Exchange.
what is the minimum weight of load, one can use , and still get a long burntime,,and max, i try to figure out how much heat in kilowatt it can give at low, and at high,,, and for how long
@@n121pp67 ok thanks,, so 20 lbs for two hours, that is about 9 kilo of wood, that is 36 kilowatt, or 18 kilowatt per hour ,, but what if you only need 2 kilowatt per hour,, CAN a load of 20lbs burn as slow as 18 hours ??= 2 kilowatt per hour how much wood do you in your house need to burn in a day that has 39,2 F as average temperature??
I can't get more than a 4 to 6 hour burn on my Blaze King before the thermometer reads "inactive" and it's supposed to do long burns like yours. I use seasoned Birch.
Check the thermometer when the stove is cold to make sure it’s right around the zero mark 8’oclock position. To get long burns the air control needs to be in 4-6 o’clock position. This is the low setting so no real flames to see but the heat is good. My stove stayed in the active zone from 6PM to 12PM, I had it in the lowest setting from 7PM. If after confirming the above you’re still not getting the long burn then it may be time to look at the combustor. I’ve been on the same combustor for several years so it’s probably not that. But make sure it’s still in tact. It can fracture from thermal shock during reloads if the new load has a lot of moisture and you engage the bypass too soon.
Assuming a full load and an air control setting 2 clicks below the middle setting, I would expect 8-10 hrs of heat, perhaps longer. You will not see rolling flames btw. Once the stove settles down it’s more of a glow with a display of flames from time to time.
Yes it comes with one but you don’t need to use it. It generates a lot of heat that the blower is only needed if you feel you are over firing the stove. I don’t use it
Hi, I have a question. My princess is free standing and the piping is roughly 16 feet from the stove to the ceiling and then there's an attic (pretty big attic). The piping in the attic has a curvature, it isn't a straight shot through to to the roof, and then it has the piping above the roof. I noticed that your combustor (catalyst) was still red after over 12 hours. Mine is out within an hour. I changed door gasket and the catalyst is only 6 months old. My wood is close to 2 years old in an open shed 24x24. I think I've checked off most the issues that could make it not run efficiently but not getting the results I hear from most blazeking owners. What could your thoughts be on this kind of problem. Any suggestions and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thx in advance. P.S. Anyone who has suggestions, I'll be all ears.
The stove should remain in the active zone for the duration of the fuel load. If it’s not and you have more than just glowing coals then something off. The catalyst will glow red at times during the burn cycle but there will be times when it’s not glowing. Keep in mind that it is still functioning and will continue to do its job and keep the stove in the active zone regardless of the damper setting as long as there is wood left to burn. So if you’re in the active zone the stove is working as it should. Good read on catalyst here www.woodstove.com/image/catalog/Library/Wood-Stove-Troubleshooting/Woodstock-Soapstone-Catalytic-Combustor-Tips.pdf
What are the results that you’re getting? I found the best results were from a tightly stacked north south load with good size spilts at the bottom. I like loading the stove to near capacity if possible even from a cold start.
Your stove calls for a minimum of a 15' total height of all stove pipe plus chimney pipe but not much over 18'-20'. I sounds like you are quite a bit over the maximum height which creates too much draft and the piping is trying it's best to really suck the air up too fast. I'm not sure if an old-fashioned damper would help to slow the draft. Have you talked to a chimney sweep expert or one of the many quality Blaze King dealerships?
Have a new blaze king, I let the stove warm up, I activate the stove, once I do that I notice smoke coming out the back of the stove. Temp is on high. Any ideas?
1500 sq ft 2 story colonial. The heat rises up to the second floor via convection so it’s an ideal arrangement. A ranch presents a unique set of challenges to overcome. If the stove is centrally located then it may be ok, but I’ve heard stories of freezing rooms on the far side of the house. Check out the forums on heating with wood burners.
I heat a smaller size ranch with an Englander non-cat insert that's prolly half or 2/3s the size of this and it works just fine. Very warm in the stove (living) room of course, but the trick is to use 1 or 2 small, personal desk-sized fans (3-4" type) on the floor at the ends of hallways or however your layout is to push cold air back toward the stove room, which pulls the warm air into those farther away areas. When my stove finally gives up the ghost, I'll definitely look into one of these though for the longer burn times and wood savings as everyone raves about them, (except those with unseasoned wood).
Can you share a video of it running wide open for awhile? when its wide open how long is your burn times? I'm interested in getting the ashford or sirocco but sometimes I prefer tending to the fire and burning a little more wood with nice flames.
I can but I haven't starting burning yet for the season, perhaps in a couple of weeks. In the meantime this video captures the look. ruclips.net/video/1HaQSyrr7gs/видео.html I would estimate the burn time would be 3-4hrs or so on a full load at wide open. But I will confirm this season.
So......how tall is your chimney? Is your liner insulated? Do you have a sealed plate above the stove? That amount of wood is so small compared to what I go through in my insert. And your splits are mostly small to medium pieces. I can tell that it is well seasoned. What species is this?
Jesse Broyles I would say it’s about 36 - 40 feet high a very straight run up. The house is a 2 story colonial. I have a stainless steel 6” liner inside the chimney but it is not insulated. Above the stove in the fireplace it is sealed off with firebrick and where the old damper was it is plugged with roxul insulation. The wood is a mixture of hardwoods primarily red oak and maple from 2016. So you are correct it is well seasoned.
All ways wanted a blaze king can’t deside with one like to find a used one in good shape but of coarse always think about it at winter we’re there’s no deals
It’s a variable speed fan, when I use it I set it very low and that’s works well. At that setting you can barely hear it. If you run the fan any higher then the noise is noticeable. I like operating the stove without the fan, I just enjoy more than way. Running the fan heats up the room faster.
@@n121pp67 appreciate your reply. I was asking about the fan thats inside the stove. Like the one that controls the fire. Does that one make any noise?
@@mikeb2353 so the only fan on the stove is called a blower and that is what I thought you meant, it is internal to the stove btw. The air control controls the amount of air going into the stove and the burn intensity. The air control is a thermo mechanical damper and does not make any noise. Hope that helps
In my area NNJ we get a few days where it’s -4 and the stove needs to run wide open on days like that with many reloads. Overnight the gas furnace would heat the house. But my home is poorly insulated. The stove will keep the house warm enough that the furnace will not come on. -20/30 is going to be tough for any stove 😀
The king 40 will be good enough for 1200 sq ft home. The stoves don't really get much bigger then this. You would have to go with a wood furnace at that point. Much higher price point.
Yes it’s a great stove. It puts out a lot of heat and can burn for a long time. I think a fresh air kit is one way to improve on this otherwise great design and overall comfort level in the house. But other than that I wouldn’t change a thing.
Hey Logan I’m enjoying a mid burn right now and it has been going for about 6 hrs with about 1 hr left before reload. The stove was loosely filled with about 5 splits so I would say 1/2 of the capacity. Spilts are well the seasoned approximately 4 years hardwood 😀from 2016. The house is very comfortable with the room the stove is in at around 74 degrees F. 2nd floor rooms are at 71 degrees. It’s was mild day with high of 40F. The load was less than what was in this particular video. I also loaded it east west instead of north south like in this video. When you load east west you get the longest burn times. When you load north south you get the hottest fire. With this stove and our mild winters that we see in NNJ east west works really well.
I did replace the cat under warranty in 2017, the original cat had cracked due to an over zealous chimney sweep 😀. Or it could have been me just over firing the stove pushing the temps into the mid 80s the first 3 years. The replacement cat is working well no signs of fatigue. If you load east west easily 8-10 hrs on a full Load. If you load north south you will most likely get 6-8 hrs.
@@leesmith9942 - agree. If I turn the air down the glass goes black. So at start up when the glass has been cleaned. No issues as long as you have a blazing fire going, but if you close the vents and let it glow the glass goes black and has to be cleaned every 2 to 3 days.
@@n121pp67 I did purchase that Princess Insert. It’s a 2006 model PI1010A. It needs a combustor and it appears to have been overfired. The bypass gasket retainer is warped so I will be grinding out the welds, removing it, and ordering a new one from Blaze King. I have a thread on Hearth.com outlining my progress.
I read a thread on hearth.com and it was from an owner of a Quadra fire stove and they were talking about how their friends blaze king princess insert worked so well and produced a lot of heat compared to the QF. I think I was sold on the blaze king at that moment. 😀
Someone asked about the length of the burn in this video and it was approximately 18 hours in the active zone. If it was an east west load then I think we could get a few hrs more out of the load.
Something is radically wrong with this video. This is not how a Blaze King Princess operates when fully closed down as the author states (in a 2022 vintage). There should be no visible flame. In fact, on my Princess, the fire dies out entirely if I set it at lowest air intake! He has a problem stove. This is all wrong and not true! He's showing a full-open air valve or a major air leakage.
My stove works just fine, and that’s how it works in the video. If I had a problem the burn times would be low and the flames would be very visible. Any way thanks for your observations and comments.
You're doing it wrong. Over firing the cat. Says right in the manual not to do this unless you like shelli ng out 300 for a new cat prematurely. Thats why the paint is gone on top of the stove. Wasted about half your heat out the chimney and sucking in cool air without the outside air kit. Theres no doubt this things warped from user error.
Just bought 1 a few weeks ago..same insert Im learning it...thank you for video..very informative
Fantastic video. Well done Sir. Very much appreciated. I’m sold.
Good weekend?
Yes.
What did you do?
I watched some guys oven for 45 minutes.
Ain’t that the truth!!!
Why is this so accurate.
Thank you. Very informative. You mentioned in the video about heating the room to 74 while it was 40 outside. Just as a reference how large is the room? I’m thinking of getting BK Sirroco 25 to heat my living room/kitchen area which is round 800-1000 sqft w high ceiling in Long Island. And like you want to avoid using the blower, if possible. Thanks
The stove is in my living room, which opens up to a dining room and a center stairwell to the 2nd floor. Approximately 750 sq ft on the main floor. This arrangement is good for heat distribution even to the 2nd floor. The stove can put out more heat if you open up the air control but then it becomes too warm in the living room.
I want one of these.
I currently have a buck, non cat. It's a very large insert. Fan is LOUD. and it NEVER burns more than 6 hours. There MIGHT be some coals left by 8-9 hours. But NO heat
Great video!!!! I really want a blaze king now!
I had mine installed in May 2015, I still remember my first burn on a very cold October morning later that year. It exceeded my expectations I had going in. Great stove.
Thx so much. You've been more than helpful.
Your video was basically what I was looking for because one of the main reasons - and selling points - is that most of the Blaze King stoves have a very long duration of heating before having to reload the stove. One thing I would have really appreciated is if you had a clock or up-timer to keep track of how long it had been since you lit the fire. I know that you narrated occasionally how long it had been going but I missed one of the "into the burning cycle" that you said so I had to go back and try to find it. Small point, though, and I really liked the video overall.
Thank you for the feedback, I’m glad you enjoyed the video.
I recently put in a BK King woodstove (not an insert) and it works the same, it is a KE40 model. It seems too good to be true, all the stuff you hear about how long the stoves can hold a fire. With 6 average size pieces of Dougas Fir my stove burned 20 hours. The stove stayed hot another 2 hours, enough to keep the house at 70 while it is 33 outside. When I load it more fully, it becomes a daily task to fill about the same time each day. It is truly liberating, and the price tag is definitely worth it. My old stove would burn through that in 3 to 4 hours, requiring me to get up at night to keep it going. No more. And I can put my hand on the stove pipe, a testament to how much heat is getting utilized inside rather than out. Also there is no smoke, occasionally a slight wisp if the catalyst is engaged. My son in law couldn't believe his own eyes when he was over. What a great stove.
👍 - it’s a great wood heater
How is this stove working for you 3 years later?
I heat my home with only wood and this weeks to be a great replacement for my old Olympic insert.
Thanks in advance.
It works great, I’ve had it since 2015. The catalytic combuster was replaced because of damage by a chimney sweep. Replaced for free under the 10yr warranty. It always amazes me at the amount of heat it can deliver. I run it very low because it will push temps into the 80s very quickly. I would buy it again.
@@n121pp67 Thanks for the reply. I'm officially reaching out to local shops tonight. Cheers
I'm sitting here waiting for the stove to get to the hot setting.And don't hardly feel any heat coming off of the stove yet. That's the only part I miss about the old stoves, you were able to back up to the stove to warm your hind end😅
Once it is hot you will be able to do just that. I like to sit for a few minutes in front of it. Amazing how well it works. Had mine on the lowest setting yesterday and it still put out a lot of heat for about 16 hrs.
With the BK catalytic style stove, how often do you sweep your chimney? With this stove is little to no creosote?
Once a year - but based on the chocolate brown look inside the chimney liner instead of a black tar like appearance I would think I could skip a year. Also I’m in the NE so oak hardwood is what I use primarily. Once a year in late winter is usually when I have it done.
Your "low burn" looks much more aggressive than my low burn on the same Princess insert. There aren't any flames visible on my low burn, the cat temp is well into the active range, stovetop temp (Not combustor temp) is around 300 to 350F. Your stove's thermostat might need to be adjusted to allow somewhat less air into the stove when it's turned down to minimum (fully clockwise on the Princess insert) or you door seal isn't tight enough. With a FULL load of mixed hardwood we'll get 18+ hrs burn time on low. Blaze King suggests you fill the firebox tightly. On low, the wood smolders and the catalytic combustor does all the work burning the smoke while it's still in the stove, then releasing its heat into your house. If you want to see flames on "low" you'll need an EPA non-cat stove with secondary burn which will probably drive you out of the house with too much heat, and consume 50% more fuel. The Cat stove is the wisest choice.
It takes a little while for the flames to die down if I’m on the lowest setting, for the first 30mins to an 1hr I will see flames then no flames for the rest of the burn. I did check the door seal and it was good last season. WRT to the air control aka temp control you may be right but it does seem to do what it is supposed to do and that is it keeps the combustion temp of the cat in the active zone throughout the burn. I run it at a setting that shows a tan coating on the the inside. If I go all the way down to low I see black shiny creosote on the inside after a burn. So I want to avoid that.
@@n121pp67 I get a creosote buildup also. But it's on the inside of the door glass as well as on other areas off the firebox. That's normal - when burning a cooler, smoldering fire in any airtight stove. The difference is that the combustor burns all that tar/creosote smoke and prevents that smoke from reaching your chimney. And the place where you do not want creosote is not in the stove but in the chimney itself. Creosote buildup inside the stove is normal on lower temp burns. So if you burn a not-so-hot fire (so you're not opening windows and burning too much wood) and keep the combustor temp in the "active zone"....then you will be operating the stove within its parameters. You can clean the glass by burning the stove at a higher setting for a while. I prefer to use a single-edge razor blade in a paint scraper handle to carefully scrape away the buildup. More than ten years of cleaning the door glass that way. Again, please don't worry about creosote formation in the stove - the catalyst is there to burn the smoke and release that heat into thee house.
@@svensvensen8406 thank you that makes sense
@@svensvensen8406 If the dirty glass bothers you, and I don't see why it should since there aren't any flames to watch anyway, and you want to quickly remove creosote, there is a product called "Speedy White" Hearth and Stove Cleaner. I'm sure there are other brands as well. You just spray it on like Windex and wipe away the creosote. A lot easier than scraping with a razor blade.
Having used Wood Stoves for Years, the Fact that these are stated to Burn for 12+ Hours is Remarkable.
Airflow is the Enemy, though Required for Continuous Electron Exchange.
what is the minimum weight of load, one can use , and still get a long burntime,,and max, i try to figure out how much heat in kilowatt it can give at low, and at high,,, and for how long
The stove holds about 80lbs of wood, so 20 lbs would be a good small load and that should last about 2 hrs at least.
@@n121pp67 ok thanks,, so 20 lbs for two hours, that is about 9 kilo of wood, that is 36 kilowatt, or 18 kilowatt per hour ,, but what if you only need 2 kilowatt per hour,, CAN a load of 20lbs burn as slow as 18 hours ??= 2 kilowatt per hour how much wood do you in your house need to burn in a day that has 39,2 F as average temperature??
@@cmtwgrdk2748 I don’t think it would last 18 hrs even at the lowest setting.
I can't get more than a 4 to 6 hour burn on my Blaze King before the thermometer reads "inactive" and it's supposed to do long burns like yours. I use seasoned Birch.
Check the thermometer when the stove is cold to make sure it’s right around the zero mark 8’oclock position. To get long burns the air control needs to be in 4-6 o’clock position. This is the low setting so no real flames to see but the heat is good. My stove stayed in the active zone from 6PM to 12PM, I had it in the lowest setting from 7PM.
If after confirming the above you’re still not getting the long burn then it may be time to look at the combustor. I’ve been on the same combustor for several years so it’s probably not that. But make sure it’s still in tact. It can fracture from thermal shock during reloads if the new load has a lot of moisture and you engage the bypass too soon.
Thank you for making this video. On average what is your usable burn time? Thank you
Assuming a full load and an air control setting 2 clicks below the middle setting, I would expect 8-10 hrs of heat, perhaps longer. You will not see rolling flames btw. Once the stove settles down it’s more of a glow with a display of flames from time to time.
Thank you @@n121pp67
Hello, does this insert have a blower available?
Yes it comes with one but you don’t need to use it. It generates a lot of heat that the blower is only needed if you feel you are over firing the stove. I don’t use it
Hi, I have a question. My princess is free standing and the piping is roughly 16 feet from the stove to the ceiling and then there's an attic (pretty big attic). The piping in the attic has a curvature, it isn't a straight shot through to to the roof, and then it has the piping above the roof. I noticed that your combustor (catalyst) was still red after over 12 hours. Mine is out within an hour. I changed door gasket and the catalyst is only 6 months old. My wood is close to 2 years old in an open shed 24x24. I think I've checked off most the issues that could make it not run efficiently but not getting the results I hear from most blazeking owners. What could your thoughts be on this kind of problem. Any suggestions and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thx in advance. P.S. Anyone who has suggestions, I'll be all ears.
The stove should remain in the active zone for the duration of the fuel load. If it’s not and you have more than just glowing coals then something off. The catalyst will glow red at times during the burn cycle but there will be times when it’s not glowing. Keep in mind that it is still functioning and will continue to do its job and keep the stove in the active zone regardless of the damper setting as long as there is wood left to burn. So if you’re in the active zone the stove is working as it should. Good read on catalyst here www.woodstove.com/image/catalog/Library/Wood-Stove-Troubleshooting/Woodstock-Soapstone-Catalytic-Combustor-Tips.pdf
What are the results that you’re getting? I found the best results were from a tightly stacked north south load with good size spilts at the bottom. I like loading the stove to near capacity if possible even from a cold start.
Also let the burn cycle complete before reloading ie don’t reload until the stove drops back down sufficiently into the inactive zone.
Your stove calls for a minimum of a 15' total height of all stove pipe plus chimney pipe but not much over 18'-20'. I sounds like you are quite a bit over the maximum height which creates too much draft and the piping is trying it's best to really suck the air up too fast. I'm not sure if an old-fashioned damper would help to slow the draft. Have you talked to a chimney sweep expert or one of the many quality Blaze King dealerships?
@@CW1116 I wasn’t aware of the maximum height, the stove and chimney liner were installed by the same company. I’ll have to do some research on this.
Have a new blaze king, I let the stove warm up, I activate the stove, once I do that I notice smoke coming out the back of the stove. Temp is on high. Any ideas?
So there’s no smoke when the combustor is not activated but there’s smoke when you do activate it?
What size area are you heating with the insert? Wondering if something like this would heat my 1800sqft ranch in New England. Thanks
1500 sq ft 2 story colonial. The heat rises up to the second floor via convection so it’s an ideal arrangement. A ranch presents a unique set of challenges to overcome. If the stove is centrally located then it may be ok, but I’ve heard stories of freezing rooms on the far side of the house. Check out the forums on heating with wood burners.
I heat a smaller size ranch with an Englander non-cat insert that's prolly half or 2/3s the size of this and it works just fine. Very warm in the stove (living) room of course, but the trick is to use 1 or 2 small, personal desk-sized fans (3-4" type) on the floor at the ends of hallways or however your layout is to push cold air back toward the stove room, which pulls the warm air into those farther away areas. When my stove finally gives up the ghost, I'll definitely look into one of these though for the longer burn times and wood savings as everyone raves about them, (except those with unseasoned wood).
Can you share a video of it running wide open for awhile? when its wide open how long is your burn times? I'm interested in getting the ashford or sirocco but sometimes I prefer tending to the fire and burning a little more wood with nice flames.
I can but I haven't starting burning yet for the season, perhaps in a couple of weeks. In the meantime this video captures the look. ruclips.net/video/1HaQSyrr7gs/видео.html
I would estimate the burn time would be 3-4hrs or so on a full load at wide open. But I will confirm this season.
So......how tall is your chimney? Is your liner insulated? Do you have a sealed plate above the stove?
That amount of wood is so small compared to what I go through in my insert. And your splits are mostly small to medium pieces. I can tell that it is well seasoned. What species is this?
Jesse Broyles I would say it’s about 36 - 40 feet high a very straight run up. The house is a 2 story colonial. I have a stainless steel 6” liner inside the chimney but it is not insulated. Above the stove in the fireplace it is sealed off with firebrick and where the old damper was it is plugged with roxul insulation.
The wood is a mixture of hardwoods primarily red oak and maple from 2016. So you are correct it is well seasoned.
n121pp67 That is a very high stack with a ton of draw. I’m impressed the stove can keep the draw at bay. No wonder your high burn was so intense.
n121pp67 Did you install this yourself?
Jesse Broyles The dealer that I bought the stove from also did the installation, if you’re handy I think it’s pretty easy to install if you have help.
Disregard, I see you had it installed. Is this an EPA 2020 model?
All ways wanted a blaze king can’t deside with one like to find a used one in good shape but of coarse always think about it at winter we’re there’s no deals
I had mine installed in May of 2015; first fire was in October of 2015. That was a long 5 months.
Does inside fan make any noise?
It’s a variable speed fan, when I use it I set it very low and that’s works well. At that setting you can barely hear it. If you run the fan any higher then the noise is noticeable. I like operating the stove without the fan, I just enjoy more than way. Running the fan heats up the room faster.
@@n121pp67 appreciate your reply. I was asking about the fan thats inside the stove. Like the one that controls the fire. Does that one make any noise?
@@mikeb2353 so the only fan on the stove is called a blower and that is what I thought you meant, it is internal to the stove btw. The air control controls the amount of air going into the stove and the burn intensity. The air control is a thermo mechanical damper and does not make any noise. Hope that helps
@@n121pp67 yes that helps thank u
I have about a 1200 sq ft home in N. Vt. Do you think this is too much stove for the space ? It can get -20/30 f .
In my area NNJ we get a few days where it’s -4 and the stove needs to run wide open on days like that with many reloads. Overnight the gas furnace would heat the house. But my home is poorly insulated. The stove will keep the house warm enough that the furnace will not come on. -20/30 is going to be tough for any stove 😀
The king 40 will be good enough for 1200 sq ft home. The stoves don't really get much bigger then this.
You would have to go with a wood furnace at that point. Much higher price point.
I have the king, with a full load of poplar I get 18-19 hours just below half damper.
How long are your heat times when the temps are in single digits or below zero ?
Jeff and Dave sure could use 1 of these ... oh wait they got Sox , never mind their good.
Are you happy with this stove
Yes it’s a great stove. It puts out a lot of heat and can burn for a long time. I think a fresh air kit is one way to improve on this otherwise great design and overall comfort level in the house. But other than that I wouldn’t change a thing.
Have you seen Dave on Gridlessness channel? They like you.
Id like to see how long a mid/high burn lasts. Have you had to replace the catalytic? How long did it last?
Hey Logan I’m enjoying a mid burn right now and it has been going for about 6 hrs with about 1 hr left before reload. The stove was loosely filled with about 5 splits so I would say 1/2 of the capacity. Spilts are well the seasoned approximately 4 years hardwood 😀from 2016. The house is very comfortable with the room the stove is in at around 74 degrees F. 2nd floor rooms are at 71 degrees. It’s was mild day with high of 40F. The load was less than what was in this particular video. I also loaded it east west instead of north south like in this video. When you load east west you get the longest burn times. When you load north south you get the hottest fire. With this stove and our mild winters that we see in NNJ east west works really well.
I did replace the cat under warranty in 2017, the original cat had cracked due to an over zealous chimney sweep 😀. Or it could have been me just over firing the stove pushing the temps into the mid 80s the first 3 years. The replacement cat is working well no signs of fatigue.
If you load east west easily 8-10 hrs on a full
Load. If you load north south you will most likely get 6-8 hrs.
My stove came with a 10yr warranty on the cat btw.
@@n121pp67 did you replace the cat with a ceramic or steel one?
@@jbroyles13 Hi Jd yes the replacement cat is the ceramic one from Blaze King.
To people on the market for stove,I’d get one that could burn coal too !
@@SheldonRunkle I’m wondering if you could burn coal in a cat stove like the BK Princess.
Clean glass with the ash and water. Takes all of 10min to do
With these stoves, i have one and the way the draft blows on the door i clean mine and 2 days later its the same as before i cleaned it.
@@leesmith9942 - agree. If I turn the air down the glass goes black. So at start up when the glass has been cleaned. No issues as long as you have a blazing fire going, but if you close the vents and let it glow the glass goes black and has to be cleaned every 2 to 3 days.
Found a used one for $800 going to go check it out Friday!
Wow great price
@@n121pp67 I did purchase that Princess Insert. It’s a 2006 model PI1010A. It needs a combustor and it appears to have been overfired. The bypass gasket retainer is warped so I will be grinding out the welds, removing it, and ordering a new one from Blaze King. I have a thread on Hearth.com outlining my progress.
@@jbroyles13 wow it will serve you well, you made a great choice.
I read a thread on hearth.com and it was from an owner of a Quadra fire stove and they were talking about how their friends blaze king princess insert worked so well and produced a lot of heat compared to the QF. I think I was sold on the blaze king at that moment. 😀
Someone asked about the length of the burn in this video and it was approximately 18 hours in the active zone. If it was an east west load then I think we could get a few hrs more out of the load.
Something is radically wrong with this video. This is not how a Blaze King Princess operates when fully closed down as the author states (in a 2022 vintage). There should be no visible flame. In fact, on my Princess, the fire dies out entirely if I set it at lowest air intake! He has a problem stove. This is all wrong and not true! He's showing a full-open air valve or a major air leakage.
My stove works just fine, and that’s how it works in the video. If I had a problem the burn times would be low and the flames would be very visible. Any way thanks for your observations and comments.
You're doing it wrong. Over firing the cat. Says right in the manual not to do this unless you like shelli ng out 300 for a new cat prematurely. Thats why the paint is gone on top of the stove. Wasted about half your heat out the chimney and sucking in cool air without the outside air kit. Theres no doubt this things warped from user error.
It’s fine no issues, no warping.
inexperienced wood burning is what ur seeun
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This stove was designed to burn full throttle. The concept of a low burn in a Blaze King Princess is the epitome of an oxymoron.
This must be troll bait or something
@@old1234, yeah, he has to be clueless. You don't get 30 hours out of a load by burning it wide open. lol
Blaze king stoves are meant to do the opposite actually. But thanks for playing.
Good topic, poor execution.