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LNER A1 Pacific No 60163 'Tornado' at York - The Scarborough Flyer - 4th June 2016
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2016
- LNER A1 pacific No. 60163 'Tornado' at York on 4th June 2016 with 'The Scarborough Flyer' rail tour from London Kings Cross to Scarborough.
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The British perhaps didn't make the world's most powerful locomotives. But they sure as hell made the best looking ones
I tend to agree. Some thing good looking about British steam that our foreign neighbours do not have :-)
Thank you for watching - Allan.
We don't really care about power to weight ratio in steam traction, that's why we invented it for the bigger countries to exploit. We are only a very small Country....Oh sorry, I forgot The Mallard holds the world steam speed record at 126 mph, but that isn't really power is it, because it's not a big loco.
Don't tell me your American... if you are don't boast about your heavy goods trains!
I have heard a rumor that Tornado being built to modern day standards would be capable of exceeding Mallards record 126mph ? It has achieved 100mph relatively easily, so love to see it.
Grahame .White the Scotsman achieved 100 before it was even updated in period, i can't see tornado being capable because of aerodynamics, that was what made an a4 superior to an a3.
This is a masterpiece. Thank you for filming this.
PS to those who think this is Gordon, you’re not correct. Gordon is based of a Gresley A1 prototype, but no evidence suggests that it existed. He’s not even an A3!
Many thanks for your comments, Much appreciated. Regards - Allan.
Actually Gordon is based on the 1920 plans of the GNR A1s which the plans existed and A1s and A3s are basically the same thing except the A3s have high pressure boiler and the banjo dome and some double chimney
So an A2? gotcha.
Kidding!
I believe that the big city engine was based of a peppercorn A1 which appeared in one of the books at some point.
Gordon is based on the Gresley A1, Tornado is a Peppercorn A1. Gordon and Tornado would technically be siblings, along with Flying Scotsman. Scotsman was an A1 but modified into an A3.
Ahhhhhhhh I'm going to see this today at Darlington Station I'm so excited! Such a beautiful Locomotive
I thought it was next week it was going to Darlington. Enjoy seeing Tornado and thanks for watching the video. Cheers - Allan.
@@allan5919 np, its today for definite, i went this morning and saw the carriages going Carlisle, where Tornado is.
@@RyansArachnids Yes you are correct Ryan. Its back Darlington way tonight. Sorry for the confusion. It is there next week also. Cheers - Allan.
@@allan5919 oh is it? I didn't know that thank you I'll go see it too
@@allan5919 The transport youtubers in mexico has a trick to find the hour of the model that Will pass: they tell to control centre of Subway to know the schedule. You can ask to station bossing in Darlington and they'll tell You the schedule. Take attention!
Superb video Allan. Tornado looking awesome inside the station. Great day out today and good to see everyone. Cheers, Jeff.
Thanks very much and agree, a very enjoyable day indeed at York.
Cheers - Allan.
Excellent as always Allan, always nice to see Tornado in action
Many thanks for watching Anthony. It's being kept very busy lately on the rail tours.
Regards - Allan.
Very nice video as usual Allan,the people who live in York are very lucky as they see almost all there is to see steam wise
Tornado...always impressive !! Great footage at York Allan.....Cheers....Steve.-:)
Many thanks for viewing Stephen. Appreciate your comments as always.
Best wishes - Allan.
great footage of Tornado Allan. great to see so many people out to see her.
Regards Scott
Yes the station was rather busy with rail enthusiasts today. Flying Scotsman was in the station 2 hours later. Thanks for viewing.
Regards - Allan.
Very good work, Allan! Wonderful steam-loco! Great video! Thumbs up!
Kind regards, Mike :-)
She is stunning
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Regards - Allan.
You really nailed it today, Allan! great footage, variety of angles and shots ( but no boots!) Looks as if the McKever family had a great day with a double billing of steam at York. Thanks to both of you for the videos. :)
Thank you very much Alan and it was indeed a fantastic day out at York and Ian also made an appearance from across the Pennines and sampled the York Pumpkin (the tea is the very same standard by the way). My video of 'Flying Scotsman' wasn't too good and ended up on the cutting room floor for the cleaners to sweep up. Hope you are well. Best wishes - Allan. :-)
Spectacular coverage brother
Thank you. Allan.
Great stuff Allan,
What an enjoyable well organised day out it was too.
Thanks very much. I really enjoyed the day at York despite the large crowds. Cheers - Allan.
Beautiful machine.
Thanks for watching. Regards - Allan.
Yet another masterpiece. Nice to see Tornado in action. Clearly keen to get going to Scarborough, perhaps for an ice cream.
It was nice to see the A1 under that magnificent roof Anthony. A very interesting departure and that ice cream would have tasted nice on a very warm day. Many thanks for your comments. Regards - Allan.
look at it
how can you not fall in love with this locomotive
A very nice video Allan. Magnificent to see 60163 back under the train shed at York. Best Regards. Cameron
Thanks very much for watching Cameron. Never seen 'Tornado' on this platform before and she sure made a magnificent sight under that roof. Best wishes - Allan.
Another beauty for an engine Allen. Really phenomenal reviving a class that was extinct due to the modernisation plan of the 1950s
The scrapping of steam locomotives shouldn't have happened.
I once saw this at York station a few years ago on my weekly commute from Edinburgh to Sheffield. Magnificent beast - made me glad that I didn't catch the through train and had to change at York.
The loco is a truly magnificent sight especially seeing it under that lovely York Station roof. Thank you for watching Bruce - Allan.
Great close ups of Tornado Allan as it stood at the platform and nice to see you and your friends at the station....Trevor.''
Thanks very much Trevor and I had a really enjoyable day. Lovely to see you once again at the station for the chat.
Best wishes - Allan.
Great video Allan,have liked a great video of tornado here,very nice shots and sounds,really enjoyed watching this,kind regards josh :)
I am pleased you like the footage Joshua. Thanks for watching.
Regards - Allan.
Nice clip. Many thanks
Thank you for watching. Much appreciated.
Cheers - Allan.
Excellent vid Allan shes looking good cheers Steve ..
Thanks for watching Steve. Much appreciate.
Cheers - Allan.
Very good film Allan , great sound under the roof , I should think the A1 trust had a quiet with the driver after that wheel spin . Regards David
Thanks for your comments David. It was quite a severe slip on both occasions. Lovely sight. Never seen an A1 in that spot ever even in steam days. Cheers - Allan.
Great vid mate saw her coming back through York looked great she also had a different headboard on her also saw flying Scotsman a few hours before she came she came back though York great vid thanks for sharing :)
Thanks very much for your comments and I hope you had a very enjoyable day seeing the two iconic steam locomotives. Both a lovely sight. Cheers - Allan.
Very nice steam loco, great catch, Allan :-)
Kind regards and thumbs up
Many thanks Ulli. Much appreciate you comments. Cheers - Allan :-)
Great vid, was excellent to see from the outside view, felt & heard the slips from inside (was a steward onboard in coach G) I think both where well caught by the driver
Thanks for watching and thanks also for your comments. The wheel slip was well caught like you said as it was quite severe. Hope you enjoyed the trip even though you had to work during it. Best wishes - Allan.
So nice Allan, well done...Derek.
Many thanks for your comments Derek. Much appreciated.
Cheers - Allan.
She's a beauty!
She is, thanks for watching. Cheers - Allan.
Gordon's alive!
No, gordon is an a3.
Ur both wrong Gordon is an a0
@@jonathancruz562 true
@@jonathancruz562 your wrong too, Gordon was an A1 prototype
Ryan Ingham no he is a a0
Awesome loco .... so nice that it works well and is usable. Just wonder how easily it slips on dry rails when starting with 12 cars behind 2:45 and 3:29.
It's a fantastic steam loco. Currently out of traffic for repairs but back soon I hope. Not sure how easily it slips but personally not seen it slip too much over the years I've seen it. Thanks very much for watching and commenting. Regards - Allan.
FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC video my good and dear friend, it really is fantastic 🤩🤩🤩🤩. Like 941 👍!!!!!!
Many thanks for watching the video. Cheers - Allan. :-)
Very good video!!! Very nice Train!!!! Thumbs up! All the best! Bruno
Thank you Bruno. Pleased you like it.
Best wishes - Allan. :-)
2.28 Is that a retrorocket to slow the train down?
Good work Allan, very nice video!
Best regards from Croatia :-)
Car
Thank you very much Car. Cheers - Allan.
Great video allen
Many thank for watching. Regards - Allan.
He did it
I'll do it
He did it
I'll do it
Hey look! Its Gordon!
nope gordon is a gresley while tornado is a peppercorn pacific
Richard Bolton, Jr. correction. This locomotive is an A1 class locomotive just like golden built to Nigels design. This particular engine is a brand new one built from the ground up to take a stand for steam preservation
Richard Bolton, Jr. Gordon is a A1/A3 great northern
The Brits seemed able to produce a locomotive that was both functional and a work of art.
Yes I've got to agree with you there John. Robust, long lasting and quite nice too look at too. :-) Thanks for viewing. Regards - Allan.
I think that TORNADO is a twin of the FLYING SCOTSMAN.
Thanks for viewing. Two different classes of steam locomotive. Cheers - Allan. :-)
@@allan5919 My pleasure..
Greetings from Spain.. 👍👍🇪🇸🇪🇸
if only modern British engineering was still powering the world.
(i know its not old but this isn't modern either)
rebuild the workshop of the world.
I could not agree with you more Ant. British Engineering was the best and still is. 'Tornado' is a great example of what still can be achieved.
Thanks for watching the video. Regards - Allan.
True, but there are many reasons they have pretty much stopped making trains, because so many foreign countries make trains for the UK now and the UK have so many other things to think about which are much more important and require that money they would use to make trains.
@@TheBrickGuy7939 sending money abroad even if their trains are cheaper is still false economy, at the end of the day the poor got richer, so the rich got poorer, thus making everyone poorer. How great Britain was colapsed as an industrial superpower, commoners wanted more than their country country afford to give them, with poor common people great Britain was the richest country in the world, demanding to much from their employers they shot themselves, their employers and future generations in the back.
The richer the rich are the richer everyone is. The mistake of comparing our poor selves to the rich.
Look how china is growing, because the rich are the richer every day, not the poor in the same rate. They want an empire like we once had, and are inspired by what we did to build it. Sadly short sighted buisiness around the world are fuelling them.
@@theant9821 It has even got top the point where trains are barely even designed in the UK anymore, although sometimes manufactured there like the Hitachi trains.
Nice footage. That was one hell of a wheel spin
Thanks for watching. Yes it was pretty severe that wheel slip. Regards - Allan.
@@allan5919 If that was 'pretty severe' I'd like to see your comments on the Southern Spam Cans!
@@paulcaswell2813 Yes Paul the Spam Cans weren't exactly good at the gripping the rails were they :-) - Allan.
Nice one Allan she looked splendid.....Dave
Nice to see an A1 under that roof. Thanks for looking. Regards - Allan.
Hi Allan your welcome...Dave
“HURRY HURRY” he said as his wheels spun.”OOOOOH the indignity” he grunted
Yes very undignified indeed. Hope he gained more adhesion later in the journey. :-) Thanks you for viewing. Regards - Allan.
@@allan5919 Typical behaviour from a loco with rear carrying wheels, I'm afraid. More power=bigger firebox=trailing wheels to take the overhang=less adhesion=wheel slippage...
The only video I discovered that the wheels sometimes actually slip-spinning at start
cracking video Allan
what about that wheel slip you were well positioned for it
I kept an eye out for you but did not spot you amongst the crowds
cheers
Colin
like you the majority of my filming of Scotsman was poor quality I have not bothered to post it.
Thanks very much Colin. I always think York isn't a very good place to film when the sun is shining. It seems to get in the way where ever you are except filming from platform 3 under the roof. Pity I missed you there. Regards - Allan. :-)
Is Gordon taking the express
Very nice, Allan.
Thank you very much. Cheers - Allan.
allan5919 I have so much respect for youtubers who replies even to the most trivial of comments👍👍👍👍👍
Tornado is pulling a heavy train and unlike the West Coast-operated Flying Scotsman special had no diesel on the back so a bit of wheel slip can be expected with 12 on.
Thanks for watching. Yes its very understandable with the unassisted load it had to cope with.
Regards - Allan.
Surely the Diesel on the back (when used) is usually idling since it's only there in case of a failure and so only adds to the payload the steam loco has to cope with.
@@Martindyna it provides power for lighting and heating to the coaches usually and as a backup or shunting assistance.
@@mattlander9119 Thanks. I understand that sometimes it is used to help with accelerating the train from a stand, a practice I don't approve of (it's preferable to see what the steam loco is capable of on its own, as in the old days imo).
Was für ein Schauspiel! Herrlich!
Danke fürs Zuschauen. Allan.
Are they allowed I wonder to use sandboxes when starting off to reduce slip?
I think they are but open to be corrected on that.
Doesn't look like the sanders were used. Probably a bit too much steam and slightly greasy/wet rail
I wish they revived the E2 class as well :(
Creeperboy and friends nope
Aye. Thomas deserves to ride the rails again.
Then it would be Gordon and Thomas.
Hell no. The E2 was one of the worst tank engines ever made. Rubbish brakes. Needed water every 2 minutes and was a rubbish passenger train as well
@@ieuanharries429 Thomas mostly just pull two passenger cars
What is the difference between Gresley's A1s and Peppercorn's A1's?
Here is an article and some text which may answer your question. www.a1steam.com/origin-of-the-peppercorn-class-a1s/ I hope this helps.
Thank you for watching the video. Regards - Allan.
OK thanks.
A lot!
Hello Gordon
Wow more 'TrainSpotters' than the old days, when perhaps ½ dozen or so would be on the station. Looks great in Apple Green.
They only needed to be as powerful as demand for the task required of them. More than adequate in many cases.
Thanks for watching Grahame. These rail tours with steam locos do attract quite a large volume of spotters, especially this on 'Tornado' and 'Flying Scotsman'. Regards - Allan.
Oh boy the power of steam wonderful machinery and going strong
Thank you for watching the video. Regards - Allan.
Excellent video Allan lots of photographers there but That would anywhere if flying Scotsman & tornado there
Yes it was always going to busy today Andrew with two steam locos there. Thanks for watching.
Cheers - Allan :-)
oh!! 6 cycle sound!!! good!!!
Gotta love wheel slip on a steamer no matter where in the world its at.
Thank for watching the video. Yes it can be quite a spectacular sight. Cheers - Allan. :-)
Just seen this and that is what the train used to be called “Not The Scarborough Spa Express” where do they dream the new names from
It’s acctually A1 Peppercorn class
Very nice Allan. Did you not film Scotsman as well? Cheers, Dave.
Thanks very much for watching Dave. Yes I did video 'Flying Scotsman' but the quality of the video was so poor I decide not to include it on this footage. Regards - Allan.
Dang that wheel slip
Thanks for watching, Regards - Allan. :-)
Who else is from Thomas
This locomotive is not in Thomas fortnite kid
@@craigthe I think he is talking about modster
If there is one Gresley locomotive that I want to see the most, Tornado has my heart. I have his Bachmann model being shipped to my house as I’m writing this, and his livery is just perfect. Sorry Scotsman fans, but Tornado’s my guy
It's a beautiful steam locomotive and hopefully we will see it back on the main line once the work on it is complete at Darlington. Have great fun with the Bachmann model. Regards - Allan. 👍
They were never switched off steam trains nor should they be
people like you dont get why we transition to diesel power
This is gordons basis?
No i don't think so. Thanks for watching. Allan.
3:27 some wheel spin in there
Yep. Thanks for watching. Allan.
Why was Tornado built as an A1 and not as an A3?
I believe it was because we already have an A3 preserved. There was no A1 preserved.
It's a peppercorn A1 and not a Gresley A1/A3. The Gresley A1's were reclassed to A3 when the Pepercorn A1's were built
the grasshopper movement
something about British steam draws me back to trains every time. though america has some pretty trains an example being sp 4449 daylight, and another being Norfolk and western 611 (only two I could think of) which are both powerful and beautiful, British steam just has something that american steam just cant match up to.
Yes there are some awesome steam locos in the USA Cameron from what I see on video. We are lucky here to have such an active steam preservation movement in most parts of the country. Many thanks for taking the time time to watch and comment. Best regards - Allan.
The real life Gordon
But green and with red coaches and smoke deflectors.
gordon is an a1 gresley pacific while tornado is a a1 peppercorn pacific but close though
Richard Bolton, Jr. I thought Gordon had a rebuild, making him an A3.
2:45 wheelslip mayhem. :D
Pacifics, V2s, and York Northbound. Guaranteed slips!!!
Rode it today at Grosmont to Pickering and back and still wheels spins for fun. RS2000 Escort in loco form.,
Hope you had a great day at the NYMR. Love the Escort comparison :-) :-)
Best regards - Allan.
'Pacific'? Surely it's meant to say 'Peppercorn' Class?
The class is A1 and it's a Pacific as its a 4-6-2 wheel arrangement but it can be also described with the designers name included like a lot of steam locomotives are.
Better than Scotsman. Good shoot Allan.
Thanks Tony. I did get a video of Flying Scotsman too today but it was rubbish so I did not added it here. Thanks very much for watching.
Cheers - Allan.
I thought she was painted blue?
Yes shes was blue for a while but returned to green a few years back Kevin. Regards - Allan.
2:45 that wheel slip
Just looking at those old carriages I can smell the upholstery - after 40 years....
Thanks for watching Steve. Much better and classier coaches in the older days. cheers - Allan.
Thanks for putting these clips up for us to watch from afar.
You are most welcome Steve. . Allan.
I thought I saw Jeramy clankson
Классно снято!
Personally I like Tornado is this Bright Green, I mean BR is ok but I just pefer this look
Plus I consider Scotsman and Tornado as sisters Since Tornado is a A1 and Scotsman was a A1 for a few years
Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated. The green is very nice. Cheers - Allan.
Gordon is out of Sodor
hi gordon
Ruke Onos looks more like Henry
Creeperboy No Henry is a 5mt Black 5. Gordon is either an A1 or an A3 Pacific. Same type as Flying Scotsman as the two are brothers in Thomas canon. Tornado is in a league of her own.
Actually Tornado is only a half brother of Gordon and Tornado because he was built by Arthur Peppercorn not Nigel Gresley.
Ruke Onos Who's Gordon? I'm Tornado!
What a beautiful 🤩 engine 🚂
Thanks for watching. Allan.
Achievement unlocked: Tornado
Next achievement: Flying Scotsman + Tornado
(Kinda impossible ngl)
It looks like the scotsman
thank you for making me deaf
As much as I love watching wheel spin. I cringe. My father was a stoker/driver and said his ass would kicked for a week doing it...
Yes I suppose it does look quite a spectacle to those watching and taking a video but maybe not good for either locomotive or the track. Many thanks for watching. Regards - Allan.
@@allan5919 Thankyou for posting. Im watching in New Zealand.
@@allan5919 Any loco with trailing wheels will slip. The driving art is controlling it, and in this video, I can't really fault the driver.
I think this isn't Gordon. I think it's the Flying Scotsman.
Ian Haenggi No. This is tornado.
Flying Scotsman is a name given to A3 class locomotives which one of them is called Flying Scotsman (N° 4472) because it was hauling Flying Scotsman service
i dont know why people make such a fuss over it! its just another train that can go very fast but it is a beautiful train though!
Henry's Express
I'm not a great fan of this livery, which is LNER apple green but with "British Railways" on the tender. I think this engine would look best in BR Brunswick Green with the later version of the BR emblem on the tender.