Your review is so far the best in my opinion. The points you have here are very clear and honest! I will definitely watch your reviews for my future car purchase.
An even better rooftop config is to buy a Bestop SunRider. It replaces the 2 front Freedom Panels and gives you a quick and easy way to lift the top while seated in the drivers seat.
My biggest issue with Jeeps is that they offer way too many engine configurations. I think 3 engine max should be it. makes it easier to know what to work on when traveling, or if something goes wrong (which it will, since jeeps for some reason always have something going on)
I don't understand the issue with the steering. I hear this allot. I have my first Wrangler with 31.5 tires. I have no issue with the steering. It is a bit noisy. But look at what your getting. A vehicle is ready for sun, 1'-0" of snow, over a foot of water. I have hit large puddles on the hyw at 40 and the steering does not flinch. This is size vehicle work in tight parking places like NYC. Will be looking at a 2nd one after this lease is up.
You have some good advice and commentary. You're maybe the first person to review the 4XE to get most of the facts right on the EV/ICE side of things. Great advice on who the 4XE serves best. I can't speak to this top, cuz I got the painted hard top. But from what I get from this review, IMO, the top you're reviewing is the worst of both worlds. It practically removes your ability to go completely convertible, while at the same time doesn't protect you from sound and the cold like a hard top. And all for the bargain basement price of what you'd pay to buy both a hard top and a soft top. For some it may be perfect, but not for me. Even with the hard top, it's louder than most SUV's(especially with the Rubicon, which is what I have), but I can carry a normal volume conversation with passengers in the hard top without issues. It does a pretty good job of keeping temps within a couple degrees. But if those things are very important to you, even a base Kia SUV will probably drive quieter and more comfortably than a Wrangler. It's the nature of the beast. In terms of handling, it's the same story. The Rubicon in particular is not a curve carving road car. But you won't be pulled over for suspected DUI because you crossed the lines a bunch of times. You just have to get off your phone and pay attention, like you always should. On the 4XE aspect, your mileage will literally vary. I've gone months without visiting a gas station, and my electric costs about $1.70 per "fillup". If you have a long commute and/or the electric where you park at home is mediocre or nonexistant, this is definitely not the Jeep for you. Without that, you have a Jeep with a pretty cool "electric supercharger" that gets you about the same gas mileage overall as a normal 2.0l Wrangler. You HAVE to plug it in to save money.
I have a 2009 Jeep Wrangler X Unlimited with a hard top. I’m looking to get a new Jeep. What’s the reason that the Rubicon is louder? I was looking into a Rubicon because I spent about $13,000 fixing up my current X.
Talking so much about how loud it is - kind of funny. Really not that loud and way less loud than old Jeep’s by a lot. I took a test drive and first thought was how smooth and quiet it was compared to old Jeeps. Had to buy one and did. It’s a Jeep first- and then a hybrid. And drive about 1000 miles on a tank of gas with regularly plugging in.
I only care about the extra HP and TQ the electric motor lends to the power train. How long does the battery last in hybrid mode where both the gas and electric motors are working in unison?
Great review. Just picked mine up yesterday. 2023 All white w/black leather interior. Was car sick for three hours after driving it home lol. My test drive was so short that I didn't feel this. It's not la smooth ride ike my Grand C that's for sure. It is a bit louder than normal with the roll back top, but to me, worth the convenience opening up by the push of a button. I have a 2018 Audi A6 3.0 that I drive most of the time anyway, this one is just for fun. I do hope I get used to the bouncing and swaying.
So I do have an issue with your review. Most reviews go on about how loud it is inside while driving. Yes it is a little louder than a pick up or a SUV. But it's not that much louder. I have had 5. 2 YJ's a TJ. a JK and now a JL Rubi that I drive every day and travel with. I have normal conversations. We don't have yell. So please stop doing that. Yes it's a little louder.
The vehicle will go into FORM (fuel refresh mode) if it senses the gas and/or oil is old, meaning at that point it will force the vehicle to use gas only until its cleared out the old gas.
Ride nice, still suck a lot of gasoline, transmission shift delay and jerk when under heavy acceleration, poor electric range avg 18miles under 4 hrs of fully charge. Truck in my opinion worth under 45k the most with tax and license
Would love to see you do a segment that addresses the paint blistering issue that is literally plaguing every JL since its 2018 inception. This includes our 2019 and 4 friends that have JL’s that all have the same issue. Ours is currently at the dealer and it will be there for 3 to 4 weeks to have the hood and the doors repainted. We waited 4 months for this appointment….that’s how backlogged they are. This is all after 20,000 miles.
Typically it's six months before gasoline can turn. I don't know when the engine would run in this situation -- but anytime you hit the throttle past the kick-down, the engine turns on.
Cold temps will kick FORM (Fuel Oil Refresh Mode) often. Designed to prevent oil from deterioration due to fuel leak down. So really poor MPG in winter and I manage to average 47 mpg in summer. In some instances, system will trigger oil change light (at 1500 miles). Sub 20 mile round trips will trigger FORM often also, recommend running 25 minutes at hwy speed to bring up operating temps (after you fill up your gas tank).
@@mowcowbell From Jeep's own website, "Do not attempt water fording in a Rubicon 4xe unless depth is known to be less than 31.5 inches. Traversing water can cause damage that may not be covered by the new vehicle warranty. Always off-road responsibly in approved areas."
I had an '18 JLU Sport S with 6 spd manual, 3.5" lift, 35's, steel bumpers and a soft top. I loved it but sold it for a Nissan Leaf just to save gas. I then got a 4x4 truck to go off roading. Sold both the Leaf and the truck and got a Rubi 4xe with steel bumpers, tow package and hard top. My drive is only 13 miles each way and I charge at work and home. Haven't used any gas outside of driving it home from the dealer since it was
Not entirely. Willys Overland was the first builder but they contracted Ford to build additional MB’s as needed. They were called GPW’s and have fold insignias on the bolts and other parts.
Oh wow so great 👍 and very beautiful 🤩❤️ and the engine 🚂🚒 very strong and powerful for the off 🛣️ road 💪🛣️ or high way and very good design with the new 🆕 technology for the new 🆕 generation hument and very easy to drive and comfortable ❤.
I have a 7-mile commute to work. I can drive to work and charge at home and I won't use a drop of gasoline at all during a normal week. You also get way more hp and torque.
Wow, that's pretty bad quality. Jeep never changes. I'd like to get one, that's what brought me here, but these vids on Jeep issues are countless. My 2006 Tacoma 2.7l manual 4x4 with 240K kilometers runs like the day I bought it. It's been to the shop ONCE in all those years and only for a sway bar bushing. A/C needs a recharge but other than that everything works. I'll stick with Toyota
Has this person ever drive Many vehicles modern vehicles do not drive That great like the older style types get a grip on reality jl wrangler sahara is very Stable and road handling off road as well and all big suv get the same gas mileage and Diesel costs 3 times as much Not worth it
Jeep has been on the decline in reliability for years. Now that Chrysler, Dodge, Ram and Jeep is now owned by FIAT, they’re reliability has fallen further. Consumer Reports says to AVOID the jeep at all costs
Calling a new vehicle an investment is bananas
These were definitely 70k in December 2022, but I'm just watching this video cause they're going for 48k in August 2023.
Your review is so far the best in my opinion. The points you have here are very clear and honest! I will definitely watch your reviews for my future car purchase.
An even better rooftop config is to buy a Bestop SunRider. It replaces the 2 front Freedom Panels and gives you a quick and easy way to lift the top while seated in the drivers seat.
Dude, you're never below 1% total battery. You're at the
My biggest issue with Jeeps is that they offer way too many engine configurations. I think 3 engine max should be it. makes it easier to know what to work on when traveling, or if something goes wrong (which it will, since jeeps for some reason always have something going on)
I don't understand the issue with the steering. I hear this allot. I have my first Wrangler with 31.5 tires. I have no issue with the steering. It is a bit noisy. But look at what your getting. A vehicle is ready for sun, 1'-0" of snow, over a foot of water. I have hit large puddles on the hyw at 40 and the steering does not flinch. This is size vehicle work in tight parking places like NYC. Will be looking at a 2nd one after this lease is up.
You have some good advice and commentary. You're maybe the first person to review the 4XE to get most of the facts right on the EV/ICE side of things. Great advice on who the 4XE serves best.
I can't speak to this top, cuz I got the painted hard top. But from what I get from this review, IMO, the top you're reviewing is the worst of both worlds. It practically removes your ability to go completely convertible, while at the same time doesn't protect you from sound and the cold like a hard top. And all for the bargain basement price of what you'd pay to buy both a hard top and a soft top. For some it may be perfect, but not for me.
Even with the hard top, it's louder than most SUV's(especially with the Rubicon, which is what I have), but I can carry a normal volume conversation with passengers in the hard top without issues. It does a pretty good job of keeping temps within a couple degrees. But if those things are very important to you, even a base Kia SUV will probably drive quieter and more comfortably than a Wrangler. It's the nature of the beast.
In terms of handling, it's the same story. The Rubicon in particular is not a curve carving road car. But you won't be pulled over for suspected DUI because you crossed the lines a bunch of times. You just have to get off your phone and pay attention, like you always should.
On the 4XE aspect, your mileage will literally vary. I've gone months without visiting a gas station, and my electric costs about $1.70 per "fillup". If you have a long commute and/or the electric where you park at home is mediocre or nonexistant, this is definitely not the Jeep for you. Without that, you have a Jeep with a pretty cool "electric supercharger" that gets you about the same gas mileage overall as a normal 2.0l Wrangler. You HAVE to plug it in to save money.
I have a 2009 Jeep Wrangler X Unlimited with a hard top. I’m looking to get a new Jeep. What’s the reason that the Rubicon is louder? I was looking into a Rubicon because I spent about $13,000 fixing up my current X.
@@eugenej5 Tire noise.
I'm looking forward to when they add this capability to the Gladiator
Talking so much about how loud it is - kind of funny. Really not that loud and way less loud than old Jeep’s by a lot. I took a test drive and first thought was how smooth and quiet it was compared to old Jeeps. Had to buy one and did. It’s a Jeep first- and then a hybrid. And drive about 1000 miles on a tank of gas with regularly plugging in.
Diesel (very saddly) production for usa has stopped. For europe was the diesel 2.2 but i dont know if it stopped too or not.
I only care about the extra HP and TQ the electric motor lends to the power train. How long does the battery last in hybrid mode where both the gas and electric motors are working in unison?
One of my favorite car reviewers reviews my favorite car. Rite on!
The Rubicon has crawl control, he says it doesn't but it does
Great review. Just picked mine up yesterday. 2023 All white w/black leather interior. Was car sick for three hours after driving it home lol. My test drive was so short that I didn't feel this. It's not la smooth ride ike my Grand C that's for sure. It is a bit louder than normal with the roll back top, but to me, worth the convenience opening up by the push of a button. I have a 2018 Audi A6 3.0 that I drive most of the time anyway, this one is just for fun. I do hope I get used to the bouncing and swaying.
I had the same issue! Five days later, I traded mine in for a RAV4. Much happier now.
Once you drive it more, you will get used to it. I thought it was just me that felt that way 😂😂😂
So I do have an issue with your review. Most reviews go on about how loud it is inside while driving. Yes it is a little louder than a pick up or a SUV. But it's not that much louder. I have had 5. 2 YJ's a TJ. a JK and now a JL Rubi that I drive every day and travel with. I have normal conversations. We don't have yell. So please stop doing that. Yes it's a little louder.
Frag those tan seats... to each, their own! Really appreciate your detail!
can it be a daily driver?
is there an xtreme recon of a 4xE?
What is the the hybrid's mileage? You neglected to say.
Can you select to use gas only say once a month or something? You wouldnt want to let gas go bad in tank if you never go far and work from home.
Yep, you put it in e-save mode and it will crank up the 2.0L turbo 4.
The vehicle will go into FORM (fuel refresh mode) if it senses the gas and/or oil is old, meaning at that point it will force the vehicle to use gas only until its cleared out the old gas.
Ride nice, still suck a lot of gasoline, transmission shift delay and jerk when under heavy acceleration, poor electric range avg 18miles under 4 hrs of fully charge. Truck in my opinion worth under 45k the most with tax and license
Great presentation!
IS VERY GOOD JEEP FOR VACATION,I LIKE THE HABILITY TO ADAPT TO TERRAINE , COMFORT TO FAMILY…
Nice now let me get the truck
Would love to see you do a segment that addresses the paint blistering issue that is literally plaguing every JL since its 2018 inception. This includes our 2019 and 4 friends that have JL’s that all have the same issue. Ours is currently at the dealer and it will be there for 3 to 4 weeks to have the hood and the doors repainted. We waited 4 months for this appointment….that’s how backlogged they are. This is all after 20,000 miles.
Wrangler is absolutely fantastic car no question about it.
What happens when someone takes short trips and doesn't use the engine enough? How long before the gasoline goes bad?
Typically it's six months before gasoline can turn. I don't know when the engine would run in this situation -- but anytime you hit the throttle past the kick-down, the engine turns on.
Cold temps will kick FORM (Fuel Oil Refresh Mode) often. Designed to prevent oil from deterioration due to fuel leak down. So really poor MPG in winter and I manage to average 47 mpg in summer. In some instances, system will trigger oil change light (at 1500 miles). Sub 20 mile round trips will trigger FORM often also, recommend running 25 minutes at hwy speed to bring up operating temps (after you fill up your gas tank).
River fording with a battery electric vehicle? Is that a lithium battery?
The battery is under the rear seat, making this Jeep just as capable as any other.
@@mowcowbell From Jeep's own website, "Do not attempt water fording in a Rubicon 4xe unless depth is known to be less than 31.5 inches. Traversing water can cause damage that may not be covered by the new vehicle warranty. Always off-road responsibly in approved areas."
@@jasanmiguel same warning as the gas model Wrangler.
I had an '18 JLU Sport S with 6 spd manual, 3.5" lift, 35's, steel bumpers and a soft top. I loved it but sold it for a Nissan Leaf just to save gas. I then got a 4x4 truck to go off roading. Sold both the Leaf and the truck and got a Rubi 4xe with steel bumpers, tow package and hard top. My drive is only 13 miles each way and I charge at work and home. Haven't used any gas outside of driving it home from the dealer since it was
Fun Fact: the Original "Jeep" from the 40s was a Ford.
Not entirely. Willys Overland was the first builder but they contracted Ford to build additional MB’s as needed. They were called GPW’s and have fold insignias on the bolts and other parts.
It was the Willys
Oh wow so great 👍 and very beautiful 🤩❤️ and the engine 🚂🚒 very strong and powerful for the off 🛣️ road 💪🛣️ or high way and very good design with the new 🆕 technology for the new 🆕 generation hument and very easy to drive and comfortable ❤.
How is 20 mile of electric range worth the price of 70,000 for the rubicon when so many better options are around
I have a 7-mile commute to work. I can drive to work and charge at home and I won't use a drop of gasoline at all during a normal week. You also get way more hp and torque.
So it goes 20 miles on a charge? What's the point to pay all that extra money for this vehicle just to save a gallon of gas a day?
It is a brick through the wind, or driving a sheet of plywood down the road….. it’s a Jeep…. If you don’t like it ….. GET OUT 😏
Wow, that's pretty bad quality. Jeep never changes. I'd like to get one, that's what brought me here, but these vids on Jeep issues are countless.
My 2006 Tacoma 2.7l manual 4x4 with 240K kilometers runs like the day I bought it. It's been to the shop ONCE in all those years and only for a sway bar bushing. A/C needs a recharge but other than that everything works.
I'll stick with Toyota
Love the 4XE but dam those tan seats are sure ugly .
They come in black if you don't like tan.
Has this person ever drive Many vehicles modern vehicles do not drive That great like the older style types get a grip on reality jl wrangler sahara is very Stable and road handling off road as well and all big suv get the same gas mileage and Diesel costs 3 times as much Not worth it
I can't listen to this guy.
Jeep has been on the decline in reliability for years.
Now that Chrysler, Dodge, Ram and Jeep is now owned by FIAT, they’re reliability has fallen further.
Consumer Reports says to AVOID the jeep at all costs
But they sell like crazy and hardly any depreciation, nothing stranger than folk.
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