If that 2 lorda then david missed out your 3rd one ha ha ha didnt adress the holy spirit dont be stupid 1 lord 1 spirit 1 faith 1 baptism 1 lord because that same lord became davids lord too because he manifested into the flesh simple baby stuff how do you trinitarians not understand well i dont expect anything different for you guys because you spread false doctrine@@faithfultheology
Trinitarians and Oneness pentecostal both believe there is one God. The Christian faith is monotheistic. I grew up in oneness pentecostalism and the issue I always faced is that the theology became problematic when I began to really read and study the Bible. The Spirit gave me further revelation and the scriptures began to highlight that God is triune. He is indeed One God who exists in 3 distinct person who share the same essence.Just as a man and his wife become 1 flesh, or just as there is 1 church with many members, so is God. He is One being existing in 3 coeternal persons with the same essence. This is how Jesus can pray to the Father (John 17), this is how The Spirit intercedes according to The will of God. (John 8:26) and testifies about jesus (John 15:26). Jesus also intercedes for the saints at The right hand of The Father (Revelation 8:34, John 17). As The spirit began to guide me through the text, He began to take me to Jesus's baptism (Matthew 3) where The Father clearly states "This is my beloved Son In Whom I am well pleased" while The Spirit descended on him. These truths were hard for me to except because I was told different for most my life. I had came to a cross road where I had to decide which way I would go. I chose to go back to oneness because it was all I knew. So I began to go through my Bible and say, "if I can't find a scripture that shows The trinity in heaven, I'm going back" . Then The spirit lead me to a familiar verse in Revelation chapter 4 that I would refer to when defending oneness beliefs I had, and the spirit said "keep reading ". So I kept reading about The One who sat on the throne in chapter 4 who I assumed was Jesus since I was taught Jesus was The only one on the throne. But as I kept reading into chapter 5, Then an individual is introduced who is referred to as The Lamb that was slain, The seed of David, and of the tribe of Judah. We all know who that is, that is Jesus. The The Lamb (jesus) walks up to The one on the throne (The Father) and takes the book out of his hand, since he was worthy (equally honorable) to do so. It also mentions The 7 spirits of God before The throne as well (7 fold ministry of the spirit mentioned in Isaiah). So The Spirit answered my question. Then I asked, well where is the trinity in The old tetsment. The the Spirit took me to the book of Daniel chapter 7 that is a vision of The future Messiah referred to as The Son of Man and The Father referred to as The Ancient of Days destroyed Satan and The antichrist . So the scriptures teaches us clearly about The trinity. Their are many more examples all throughout the new testament of distinctions between The Father and The Son, and The Holy spirit stated by Jesus himself. We can't exclusively go to The old testament to teach about The Godhead because it is as Paul refers to in Colossians 2 a "shadow" of things to come. The fullness has been revealed by The Spirit unto the church ( 1 Corinthians 2:6-16). The Spirit will guide you into all truth (John 16:13) if we allow him to. Growth is all part of serving God. We cannot become like The saints Paul referred to in ( Hebrews 5:11) as believers who are "too lazy to understand". We must study so that we further understand the debts of God's word, his nature, and our callings so that we can not only live it properly but teach it properly. Grace and love to all.
@@sivaboopathy5751 John 3:13 actually disproves oneness because oneness doesn’t believe that the Son came down from heaven, But Jesus Christ who is the Son Of God said he came down from heaven so he the Son Of God came down from heaven because he said he did. It wasn’t the Father who came down because the Father was the one who sent the Son. Again disproving oneness
@@animatednostalgia5034 actually you are way off. The scripture says the son of man which is in heaven. But at that moment Jesus was on earth.🤔 so there is another meaning. And also don’t forget Jesus clearly says the Father was dwelling in him. John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. And again 2 cor 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. So yes the Father came down in flesh.
@@revamp6612 so Jesus dwelt In himself? Jesus is not the Father Nowhere in the New Testament does it say that Jesus is the Father Jesus has a Father so how can he be the Father? The Father dwelling in him was the Holy Ghost dwelling in him just like the Holy Ghost dwells in everyone else. Jesus is God’s Son When you make Jesus the Father then your saying that God has no Son
@@animatednostalgia5034 now you are getting somewhere. So basically as you have stated the Holy Ghost and the Father are the same. The Son is the Flesh/body/temple for God the Father/ Holy Ghost to dwell in. God manifest in flesh. Now when God manifested in flesh his name is called Jesus.
In John 17:11 Jesus prays that the disciples may be one even as he and the father are one. In John 10:30 he says he and the Father are one. If Oneness believe the One in John 10:30 means same person rather than same in agreement then why don't they believe when he references that "one" again in John 17:11 that he was praying the Disciples are all the same person? No, he was praying the disciples may be one as he and the father are one John 17:11.........if Jesus meant one person then when he references it he would have meant all the disciples are one person because he said one as he and the father are one so the "one" means the disciples are one in agreement or one in accord and so too he even referenced that one he had with the father.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Way I see John 17:11 is as a prophetic scripture Christ was stating about Pentecost, they DID become ONE when Christ aka the H.S. came to live within them.
We believe ALL the scriptures in the KJB. We believe they are one in the same AND in agreement, not rather... because that's what the bible teaches. In John 17 he also prayed for everyone that received and obeyed what the apostles taught...like being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, just like Jesus commanded in Mt 28:19, Mk 16, Lk 24. Trinitarian or Oneness, everyone has to deal with that, if not you have skipped over the same command of Jesus and by the Apostles. In other words, you have not been washed.
Jaymie Harris the bible never says one in agreement, it simply says I and my Father are one. That could and should be taken as God and Jesus are the same in being and in person...you have to take into account all the other Scriptures where Jesus clearly says he is God John 8:58 for example. The Jews never believed that Jesus was making himself to be "another" co-equal person, but God the Father in the flesh. If the Trinity were true then there would be no doubt or questioning it, and there would be verse after verse confirming the most important truth in Scripture-that is Gods nature....for me there are too many questions and doubts about the trinity doctrine.
Just so you know, it doesn't actually say "and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.". Please consider reading that verse 48:16c in Hebrew, as it is literally written: "and now, My Master Yehovah has sent Me and His Spirit". As a Jew, I am in full agreement with Oneness doctrine, and certainly believe Yeshua is the same ONE Yehovah, born as a man, exactly as y'all Oneness Pentecostals understand and believe. Amen. Having said that, there are plenty of literal & undeniable references of Yehovah in the Tanakh, that the rabbis have identified as clearly more than one and yet, still One. I don't have a problem with that. I've learned to appeal to Deuteronomy 29:29 so I don't even try to explain. Just as trinitarians, in the NT, have identified literal & undeniable references of more than one and yet, still One. In the NT cases, I've learned to appeal to John 16:12 so I also don't even try to explain. I've come to realize that as long we stay on the side of Oneness, we're safe. Whereas, some have crossed the line; because they deny Yeshua's deity. And if so, that's a different Jesus. The real Jesus told us that would happen (Mat. 24:5, Mar. 13:6, Luk. 21:8). Paul also told us there would be "another Jesus" (2-Corinthians 11:4).
I also think the same. I would much rather err on the side of proclaiming Jesus Christ to be the one and only true God than like some people who go as far to say the father is greater than the son, or worse like you said deny his deity.
I’ll say this. When the current oneness ideology was called Sabellianism, it was rejected by the Church. When it was modalism, it was rejected by the Church. It attached itself to Pentecostalism about 100 years ago in the US and grew from there. It was rejected centuries ago and should be rejected today.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Oneness, as UPC teach it today, was not the belief of the early church. They believed in the Father, they believed in the pre-existent Son and they believed in the Holy Ghost. I’m early writings, it was evident that they believed in three persons that was the ONE God.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa What terminology? The word Trinity? That’s an intellectually deficient argument. I can give you quotes from early church fathers. Better yet, I can give you quotes from the NT authors.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I dont know about you but I've never called myself "my son". That's cause I'm not my son and Jesus isn't his own son. He's the son who exists eternally with the father. I'm praying for you brother cause you're in a oneness, works based, cult.
We should deny our own reasoning and accept the Bible as written. Jesus commanded it in Mt 28:19, Mk 16, and Luke 24. The Apostles obeyed that command all through the book of Acts when, without fail, they baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ (or the name of the Lord, the Lord Jesus = the name of Jesus Christ).
Yes, the Jews understood that passage as referring to "the two powers in Heaven" until the 2nd and third century they saw two there. Just read an actual Scholar like Michael Heiser and it’s pretty clear in the Hebrew text.
New Life Of Albany Ga. that’s how the Jews understood it and early Christians understood the Tri-Unity of One God. You have to literally put blinders on to ignore the overwhelming evidence that the Scriptures teach on the Tri-unity of God. I dare anyone to read The Unseen Realm and Reversing Hermon by Michael Heiser who knows nine ancient languages and is a Hebrew scholar and still come away a “Oneness” believer.
Why should anyone cares what an "actual Scholar" says or believes? What modern "Scholars' " are focused on, is that you believe what THEY say the bible REALLY means. Which of non-original Hebrew texts are you refering to?
@@OrthodoxJourney359 Is there a bible endorsement for us to go to scholars and that know many languages? I dare anyone to just read the Bible just as it is unfiltered through scholars, the Strong's Concordance, etc, etc, etc. God gave us knees to bend and a heart that must be humbled and prayer to God as a prerequisite to understanding what his word says.
One of the main issues of Isaiah 48:16 for Trinitarians is it puts Jesus as the speaker in this whole section from their point of view... Then if you read the verses around it, it's obviously the father talking according to Trinitarians, but there is no speaker change.... This would imply Jesus is the same speaker throughout Isaiah, which makes sense, since it was Jesus he seen on the throne in chapter 6 according to John, who the Angels called the Lord of hosts, then Isaiah continues to call the speaker the same name throughout the book... This makes perfect sense with oneness, with Jesus being the Word of God, so anytime the Father speaks it is his Word speaking... I really don't get it, why people think a someone's word would be a different person from them? Or someone's spirit being a different person... God bless
I was fully expecting the topic to be on 1 Timothy 2:12. The Bible is clear. We as UPCI need to return back to taking this scripture at face value. No excuses.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa that’s good to know. My understanding was the the UPCI beliefs stated that women may pastor. While we do not have any woman pastors near us, I’ve seen women Wednesday night service and preach in conferences. I excused myself from the service so as the woman won’t be in violation of 1 Timothy. I am glad I was wrong and the UPCI does not allow women to pastor.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa thank you for taking time to reply to me. I find that UPCI leaders as a whole are very hesitant to engage with people that question beliefs. Back to your topic of singing. I found that most, if not very close to all UPCI churches have completely removed hymns from praise. I have asked time and time again to return to hymns and hymnals but get push back and refusal every time. So I agree with you that there is struggle. My heart is NOT in modern, worldly contemporary “Christian” music. I find that most of these contemporary artists don’t attend church regularly and live worldly lives. I also find that my church uses contemporary songs from Hillsong and Bethel which I refuse to engage in due to their abuse of their congregation.
I have no idea how your beliefs get past John chapter 17. Verse 21 pretty much shuts it down, we are one in Jesus as Jesus is one in the father....clearly we are independent of Christ and also one, so we must conclude that Jesus is independent and one with the father. Oneness doctrine makes scripture idiotic. The father and Jesus are clearly independent but also one. 1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. 6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. 7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. 9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. 10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. 11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. 13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
Basically trinitarian dogma doesn’t acknowledge the Father is in the Son in any real way. That goes back to Tertullian. So John 17:21 refutes trinitarianism in a very real way.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa If the Holy Spirit is what binds the Father and Son together, just as it binds us to Jesus, how would that refute a trinity? You dont have to bring in the trinity to disprove your modelism.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa John 10:38 ... "that the Father is in me" John 14:10 ........."the Father in me" ..... "the Father that dwelleth in me" John 14:11 ......."the Father in me" >>>> SO, are you saying Jesus was lying here? Deceiving us here with HIS words???
@@REVNUMANEWBERN of course the Father is in Jesus...Jesus is the Father manifested in the flesh. Jesus is the image of the invisible God. Jesus is the only Father that will be seen...and because of all of that, Jesus said emphatically "if you have seen me, you have seen the Father"
@@REVNUMANEWBERN Nope we we believe that same way, but that's not all he said. So, if you ignore the rest you can conveniently claim people dont believe what Jesus said. Fine, but YOU just don't believe ALL that he said.
There is one verse that I haven't heard a Trinitarian answer to and I've looked. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. KJV
That one is simple. Its talking about the fullness of God's nature. The "fullness" is to note that he was not simply a man who possesses the Spirit, like you and I do, but he in fact is fully God and fully man. This one of many scriptures that affirm Jesus's deity. All things were created through him and form him. Long before he was in flesh, he was with The Father in the beginning (John 1:1, Hebrews 1:1-2)
@@timc5922 Question, where in the bible does it say that Jesus was a thought/plan in the mind of God? Your statement insinuates that he didn't exist until His incarnation and it insinuates that He is a creation himself, which is clearly false based on the Scriptures.
@@user-yh3cy8tj1d why is God limited by time. He has always existed to God. He has preeminence, He is the firstborn of all creation. Just like the lamb was slain before the foundation of the world.
@@OurHumbleLife Jesus said, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." We find many worshippers and servants of Jesus in the New Testament... so which is it, do we serve the Father or the Son? We believe when we serve Jesus we are serving God because Jesus is the Word(God John 1:1) become flesh.
The trinitarian position of Jn 17:5, is based on the erroneous foundation that the divine glory of the Godhead, is shared. The divine glory of Jesus, which is the divine glory of God, is not shared, according to 1Tim 6:14-16, in which verses Jesus alone possesses his divine immortality. The divinity immortality of Jesus, is Jesus himself, which destroys the concept of a distinction of person and being. Jesus was praying for another glory which he never had before, except within God's foreordained plan, where his resurrected glorified body is concerned. Jesus asked the Father to 'glorify me with THINE OWN SELF, with THE GLORY I had with thee before the world was. The THINE OWN SELF is the same as the divine glory, where his divine glory is actually he himself, hence the Father and his divine glory, are inseparably one, where the Father himself is that divine glory, and not only a divine state that he possesses. So from before the world was the man Jesus in God's foreordained plan had this glory with this divine glory with the Father, only in the incarnation where God in all his glory took on flesh as a man, which humanity was a part of God's plan from before the world was. But he was not praying for a divine glory which he always had during his incarnation, but for another glory which he never had before, that is, his glorified and resurrected flesh and bones. The foundation of this verse, lies in verse 3, where the one who alone possesses divine immortality, is the same one Jesus said is the only true God. The Father IS the only true God. Does this mean that Jesus is not the true God? No, but the fact that the Father is the only true God, and that Jesus is the true God, must mean that Jesus is the Father.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Why did GOD deceive the people? In Mathew 3:16 “And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:” 17 “And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” The Didache, 1st c. A.D. 7:1 Concerning baptism, you should baptize this way: After first explain all things, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, in flowing water. [same as Jesus instruction’s]. In Matt.28:19.
In Genesis the Bible says, “Let US make man in OUR image.” In Revelation 6:16-17 the Bible says, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of THEIR wrath has come…” In Luke 23:46 the Bible says, “Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Father, into YOUR hands I commit my spirit.” Is Jesus talking to Himself here? In John 16:28 Jesus says, “I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.” Notice Jesus did not say, “I left heaven and became the son, and now I am going back to heaven to become the Father again. In John 16:38 Jesus says, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.” This verse is saying Jesus has His own will and the Father has His. Yes, they don’t disagree, of course, but still this verse speaks of two wills. In John 14:31 Jesus says, “…but so that the world may know that I love the Father, I do exactly as the Father commanded Me.” In John 5:19 Jesus says, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.” In John 1:1 the Bible says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was God.” If Oneness was true, shouldn’t this verse say, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.” John 6:44 says, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.” Again, if oneness was true, shouldn’t this verse say, “No one can come to me, unless I draw him.” In John 10:15, Jesus says, “…even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.” Matthew 26:29 says, “And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.” Read for yourself; does this sound like oneness, or is Jesus having conversations with the Father within the triune God-head?
the Apostles’ Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed-are all structured around our three in one God, underlying the essential importance of Trinitarian theology.
Haha! The Apostles creed was never seen by the Apostles. The NiceneCreed used now is not the Nicene creed currently used. And the Athanasian creed was never seen by Athanasius. You’re a cultist appealing to extra-Biblical sources according to many. I love you but please learn what you’re talking about.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa What a weird comment. You talk about extra-Bibilical sources yet completely and utterly ignore that the Bible never would have existed in its current form without ecumenical councils and the gatherings of early church fathers. Who picked what books went into the bible? That highlights the main issue with Protestantism. They like to ignore the first 1000 years of Christianity and then wonder why heresies like oneness Pentecostalism arise...again. The issue of the Trinity was sorted out in the 4th century...hence the Apostles Creed. Blindly discounting early church fathers and blindly ignoring how the Bible even came about is folly to the nth degree.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Anti-Trinitarian theology is unbiblical Theology. At best its a milkfed surface level understanding of scripture, and at worst invents a whole new gospel.
Whether anyone likes it or not, scripture says the LORD is ONE. I believe scripture. Mark 12:29 “And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:” Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
So Jesus's prayer in the garden was to Jesus, and that Jesus asked Jesus by praying, "Jesus, if it is Jesus's will, take this cup from Jesus, nevertheless not Jesus's will, but Jesus's be done? This oneness thing has got me truly baffled, considering all that the Bible has to say. I also notice that you compare things to the Jews and that they never found a Trinity anywhere and never had a problem with oneness (I am learning the terms now). But the Jews never followed God the right way and the whole Bible is full of the Jews doing things wrong and God trying to correct them. So to use the Jews and the way they worshipped as an example of the right way to worship God, without really giving specifics, and just using it generally,, makes the argument weak. Sorry..... I understand trinity isn't used in the Bible. It is a name given as a label. And labels can oftentimes be skewed and misconstrued by people to push agendas of their own.
The trinity is what is baffling. Athanasius, the founder of the trinity, even said Jesus prayer was humanity to Deity. Jesus said the Jews have the correct view of God John 4:21-24. You don’t watch the channel much do you?
I sent this to a friend concerning this topic: I think that’s why we see the resurrection and taking on glorified body Still one person the human spirit is in the category of 1 person the human spirit and the Holy Spirit does not make for two God spirits God spirit is not classified as person for it does things beyond what human is capable of The human spirit was the expression of the image of the father being created in the image of the father in comparison to other humans with out sin If we see that Christ had no sin he was not governed by the flesh but was God in the flesh in him the fullness of the God head I’m thinking this classifies the soul to whom the being is (God the father) Our souls must be saved and we must be born of the spirit Jesus the son was born of the spirit the Holy Spirit over shadowed marry So the human spirit was the expression of the image of the father being made visible and without sin in the flesh so the soul “called Jesus” is the father the human spirit is the son expressing as the father (I and the father are 1) If I am born again of the Holy Spirit I then will bring forth fruit my spirit is joined with the Holy Spirit (After the spirit not after the flesh) Temple of the Holy Spirit My soul is (Aaron) human spirit is the expression of the image of my soul the fruits of the spirit if I be of God Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Romans 8:16 “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:” Conclusion Before Adam and Eve… “Let us make man in our image” As I am seeing it in this passage of scripture The soul (God the father) Holy Spirit (expression of the father) Yes in the beginning was the word But when the son is begotten the human spirit is the expressed image of the father Hebrews 1:3 (expressed image of his person = Expressing God the father) God head bodily God the father is invisible (the soul) The Holy Spirit expresses through the human spirit as the vessel “abba”
God is One Genesis 1:26. 1 Peter 1:2. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost, this is the true Oneness. There are things you can’t use logic for you have to use Faith.
Son of God. Not God the Son. Nowhere in scripture is the term God the Son used. Son of God denotes subordination to the Father. Son denotes flesh contrasted by the Spirit. Son denotes beginning in his humanity vs everlasting in his deity. Jesus is Father. The Creator of all things. Jesus is Son. The only begotten whose flesh allowed him to become the sin sacrifice for us. And Jesus is the Holy Spirit. For it is His Spirit that inhabits and comforts the Christian.
Those TERMS MOST USED "God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost," CANNOT be found in scripture and the OBSTACLE that had me hung up, when I realized THOSE TERMS had been created by man then I began to see what this brother calls "Oneness"
Terence You see we believe the Trinity or Godhead because the Bible Teaches it. We can’t make things “Fit” I’m sorry nor can we just have one side of the coin and run with it if you read the whole bible you will find the Truth that God is One who through out the Whole Bible is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Jesus is Not the Father. Jesus is the Son of God who was 100% flesh human and IS 100% God the Son.
Numa Newbern what bible are you reading? Not trying to argue serious question. Look up these verses meditate on them with all humility try to understand that you may gain wisdom. Isaiah 9:6. Isaiah 52:6. Isaiah 52:10. John 1:1-2. 1 Peter 1:2. Titus 2:13. And many more. But please read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and Pray ask the Holy Spirit (third Person of the Trinity) to Guide you. God bless you.
If you haven’t already, can you do a video on second John verse nine? That would be awesome. I am a young minister who has been preaching since the age of 12. I have been ordained through the church of God, Cleveland, Tennessee, but saw the truth of baptism in Jesus name and about nine months ago, I officially took on his name and I’m thankful for it. I have not been treated mean like I thought I would be among the apostolic. They actually have been very open toward me and seem to find it really interesting that I had a ministry background, and saw the truth in this area. I have already done a couple of teachings on it on Facebook and gave my testimony in the house meeting. So on the baptism in Jesus name issue, I definitely am sold out that it is biblical and that’s how I baptize, but just when I think I am officially, in the one this camp and out of the closet, lol, certain versus still get me every once in a while, even though I believe that Jesus is fully God, and fully man and God manifested in the flash. What about two John: nine. Also, please forgive the typos as I have no vision and I’m dictating this to Siri but I trust you will get the gist of it.
I've never heard a oneness Pentecostal correctly explain John 16:13. Most, if not all when I've asked them, have either ignored it or completely butchered the verse. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for *He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak;* and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. John 16:13-14 This verse teaches that Jesus will speak to the Holy Spirit and command Him what to say showing Jesus is distinct from the Holy Spirit. This also teaches a conversation taking place and shows the distinct personhood of the Holy Spirit because He is hearing from the Son and then speaking those words to the disciples. This verse alone causes serious issues for oneness doctrine.
As a Trinity believer I also believe in oneness. God is one God, made distinct in 3 persons who externally existed from the beginning. The father eternally begot the Son and the Spirit is eternally sent forth from the Father and the Son. One God, YHWH.
Isaiah 48:16 Dr. Kay supposes that "one Divine Personage is here sent by another" - the Second Person of the Holy Trinity by the First and by the Third; but *it is against the analogy of faith that the Third Person should send the Second* The Pulpit Commentary
(Isaiah 48:16) To deny or misunderstand the Trinity is to deny or misunderstand the verry nature of God himself Isaiah 43:10; 44:6-8; Zechariah 12: 1-10. If you don’t get that your in denial
St Bernadette Soubirous. At Lourdes, in 1858 the Virgin Mary appears to St. Bernadette she said to Bernadette "I am the Immaculate Conception" (that meant born without sin).
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Mary is the most prayer warrior, here prayers are always answered, Genesis 3:15 “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy offspring and her offspring. Her offspring is Jesus, every Christian agrees with this, well if the offspring is Jesus then the woman is Mary it’s that simple, notice’ it is the woman Mary who has the enemy relationship with Satan not Jesus this doesn’t make her moor powerful then Jesus quite the opposite but here prayers are powerful you must love here
Someone quoted me the following version of Acts 7:56, you know, about what Stephen saw when he was stoned to death. Acts 7:56 “and he said: “Look! I see the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God’s right hand.” He or she reads it as there actually being two persons. He/she asserts "THERE IS THE SON OF MAN WITH ANOTHER. WHO IS THAT OTHER?...THATS TWO PERSONS SIDE BY SIDE." Then demands to know how many I see. Well, Scripture doesn't say "there is the Son of man with another" nor "that's two persons side by side"---that's an example of adding to scripture. I still see it as ONE because God has already established that there is no God besides Him. P.S. I also truly believe that Jesus is the Angel of the Lord who told Joseph to name the baby Jesus. Matthew 1:20-21 1599 Geneva Bible 20 But while he thought these things, behold,➡ the Angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, the son of David, fear not to [a]take Mary thy [b]wife: for that which is [c]conceived in her, is of the holy Ghost. 21 And she shall bring [d]forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall [e]save his people from their sins.
Second temple Judaism had a notion that there were distinct persons or rather “the two powers in heaven “ they identified the angel of the lord as a distinct person
Honestly, I don't see what all the confusion about verses like ISAIAH 48:16, is about? All you have to do is Read the first 15 verses to begin understanding the Context. For those first 15 Verses----It's simply GOD Himself Speaking. But verse 16 makes a Prophetic "Shift." GOD is Saying, "I AM THERE." Where? HE will Be there when the time of Jesus' Ministry arrives. "And now the Soveriegn LORD has Sent me.." This is a Prophetic revelation of the very things Jesus is going to Declare during those last 3 years of his Life! The first 15 verses leave No doubt. It starts out with YAHWEH Speaking of the Things HE had done for the Israelites. There are Many such Prophetic "Over-Shadowings," of Future Events. The Old Testament is Full of Prophetic Language! One must pay Careful attention to the Context of the Language. In Other words----The Last few words of verse 16, is a Prophecy of the Words that come from the very Mouth of Christ...In the Distant Future. Otherwise you have GOD and Christ Co--Existing in the Old Testament times, which makes NO sense at All! If that were so---Then Why did he not Announce himself as Savior? And if Christ was actually THERE....WITH his FATHER; Which one is the, "ONE TRUE GOD?" There are Many complications if you think Jesus was Literally There, back then WITH the FATHER!
If God ever says he loves who was he loving before the creation, If God ever says he speaks who was he speaking to before the creation, think, about it
I thought about this a lot, whose will was Jesus seeking to do? whose word was Jesus speaking? and who was Jesus praying to in the garden at Gethsemane? after Peter cut the guard's ear off what did Jesus tell him? When Joseph and Mary accidentally left Jesus when they went back to retrieve him what did Jesus tell them? Whose business was he about? What they say to clear that up is the Catholic Church corrupted the word well if that's so, if one part of the word is corrupted then all of it is , if you cannot believe just one part of scripture then you can't believe any of it!
People don't understand that that Jesus is the WORD of God the Father spoken into flesh! And the Word WAS God. WAS God! As in He is obviously still omniscient and omnipresent, but as a man He allowed Himself to be humbled and experience limitations. The Word DOES NOT stop being the WORD! John 17:5 KJV - And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. Isaiah 48:16 KJV - Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. THE WORD is the answer! The LORD GOD, the Father, and His Spirit, sent the WORD to become flesh and manifest as the Son of God. Super simple. Trinitarians cant handle scripture!
Both positions are right. God is ONE God, yet revealed in three persons. I am one person yet I am a spirit, soul and body. All three in one person. I am also a father, a son, and a husband. All at the same time. And different people in my life relate differently to me based upon which of these three I am to them. The important thing is Jesus is Lord! The gospel message of redemption through His atoning work.
Actually you are body and spirit. It's the union of the two that becomes soul. God created Adam (Body) and breathed into him the breath of life (Spirit) and he became a living Soul. Gen 2:7
Terence I Thessalonians 5:23, And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and your whole spirit, and soul, and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
How can both positions be right when both dont agree with each other...Trinitarians believe Jesus is not the Father and Oneness believe he is...how can both views be the same?
And so it goes. People will ALWAYS find a reason to be at odds with each other. Even when the salvation of humanity is at stake. Straining at nats while swallowing a camel. Yet Jesus died and rose again to save us. Oh how great the love of God.
God was speaking prophetically and not literally as though multiple persons are speaking or sending. The prophetic word of God spoken in the OT then becomes fulfilled as Christ himself says and others say in the NT
Thank you so very much for your explanation of the oneness theology, I completely agree with the teaching... however how would you explain Matthew 12:31-32
It was Elizabeth who first called Mary the mother of God in Luke 1:43 “And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?”. When in Luke 1: Lord is munched 17 times and all referring to God.
The Bible says that God is one, and some people wrongly take this to mean that He is one person. To believe this one would have to say for all eternity before God created the world or anything in it, that He was turned into Himself in love. Since there was nothing else to love back then besides Himself. And because He is love. Since God is perfect, that would mean that self-love was the greatest good back then. Since God can’t improve His character, that would mean that self-love would still be the greatest good. Even after God created us in His own image. And that would mean that selfishness is what we all ought to aim for. But the trinity changes all of that… 1 John 4:8
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa John 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. (did you get that). Hmm… *it says in, 1 John 1:9 he has both the Father and the Son. *Again in John 14:23 Jesus and the Father will come unto him. *Again in Matthew 17:5 Jesus is not a ventriloquists
The whole “the word Trinity isn’t found in scripture” is a very feeble argument at most because scripture doesn’t use the words omniscient, omnipotent, or omnibenevolent, and yet we consider them sound and vital doctrine. Even “original sin” isn’t found. So that argument has very little substance in my opinion
It does use omnipotent. And I’ve gone over ad naseum that’s it’s not just trinity, but the many concomitant words also. And everytime the Bible is set up to use 3 or trinity to describe God, it defaults to One.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I haven’t seen the word omnipotent. You’d have to cite the verse for me. Several references in scripture like Genesis 21 and 22 refer to separate persons i.e. YHWH and the Angel of YHWH. And there are other OT verses the distinguish the two. And I just disagree with this last statement. We see references to begetting and proceeding, but not all of them being different forms of one Unitarian God. I hope I captured your views accurately. If not, please do correct me
@@sidtom2741 Revelation 19:6. There is only 1 Jehovah. Even trinitarians overwhelmingly believe that. Belief in more than one Jehovah is polytheism, on that oneness and trinitarians agree.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa the KJV version says omnipotent, but almighty is far more accurate. Exactly, there is only one Jehovah. And I’m glad that a non-trinitarian actually understands or maintains a responsible interpretation of the trinity
They must be different considering that the Father sent the Son (Matt. 10:40; John 5:23; 6:38-39; 8:42; 12:44-45, 49; 13:20). The Son did not send the Father. Jesus came from the Father (John 6:38; 17:1-5); the Father did not come from Jesus. The Father and the Son manifest at the same time (Isaiah 9:6; Matt. 3:17; 11:25, 27; 16:17; 24:36; Mark 13:32; 2 Pet. 1:17). They were in different locations at the same time (Matt. 3:17; 16:17; 2 Pet. 1:17), have separate thrones, (Rev. 3:21), separate wills (Luke 22:42), and Jesus is now presently at the right hand of God the Father (Acts 7:56; Heb. 1:3; 1 Thess. 1:3)
Am having trouble with this "oneness teaching" because the word one in scripture does not always mean singular. God is one being but three persons, in that isaiah passage it say "and now the LORD GOD and HIS SPIRIT has sent ME" not "the LORD GOD SPIRIT has sent ME". There's a distinction between the LORD GOD and HIS SPIRIT hence the word 'and' differentiating between the two. An exciting passage in Daniel 7 “I was watching in the night visions, And behold, One like the Son of Man, Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him near before Him. Daniel 7:13 NKJV This is one of the verses in the bible that indicates there's a difference between the Father (Ancient of days) and the Son of man (Jesus).
The TRINITY, in the Old Testament Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ." 1Th 5/23 Gen 11:5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. Isa 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Isa 6:2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. Isa 6:3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. The TRINITY, in the New Testament Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. We have the same in Mar 1/10-11 Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: The name of the Father of our Lord Jesus refers to the Father 64 times in the gospes and the book of Revelation. One of the first time we read "My Father" in the gospels is. . . . Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mar 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Luk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? Joh 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. The name of the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit Jesus refers to the Holy Ghost/Spirit 22 (10 and 12) times in the gospels and the book of Revelation. One of the first times we read of the Holy Ghost is. . . . Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. What about The Son, how many times do we find The Son? IN the gospels and the book of Revelation, we find The Son 144 times Mat 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Mar 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: Joh 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God. The TRINITY of God, these three are ONE! 1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. What about the last time we find The Father, The Son, and The Spirit, in the Word of god! Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Rev 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. He that denieth the father and the Son, as to the fact that for there to be a Son there must be a Father, and for God to be the Father, there must be a Son, and to deni this fact is to be an antichrist. No one can be saved that believes oneness!
God is father in creation he is son in redemption he is holy Spirit forevermore. Someone tries telling me that God's not in heaven alone give Bible for the other two
I encourage you brothers that believe in the oneness of God to study if you haven't already the doctrines of The incarnation , the eternal Subordination , the eternal generation, Dyothelitism, the hypostatic union. Which are to do with the 2 natures/wills (1. the flesh/son/man, and 2. the holy spirit/Father/God) of God in Christ, and the eternal nature of the son(note which is the father/holy spirit) and the incarnation of the one true God(the father) in Christ(the son). I hope you find it interesting even if the trinitarians like to label them as their own doctrines, the concepts can be seen by a oneness perspective if you believe God the father was manifest in the flesh of the Son.
I don't see an eternal Son anywhere in scripture. John 1:14. Luke 2. Jesus was born of Mary in Time. The eternal spirit of God came in flesh and dwelt among us in a human body as a person in Time.
@@cathysnedegar6711 “The eternal spirit of God came in flesh and dwelt among us in a human body as a person in Time”. Where is this stated in scripture🌿
Eph. 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. James 2:14,26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
1 Corinthians 1:24 “But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the “wisdom” of God.” The question is who is the other agent with God In Proverbs 8:22-31. It’s the Son
Blessed are the hungry who searches for the hidden manna. Sadly a Truth hidden from the world. After my heart shouted "The Father is The Son" for years was i drawn to His Word below. A joy i want to share with you. What is faith? Thus has the Lord spoken to the generation of His wrath: "Faith is believing I AM WHO I AM, and that I am able to perform it. Faith can by no means be attained, nor can one grab hold of it by human means. For there are works done without faith, which are dead; and a faith which has works, which is also dead. Yet your faith came by My works, which enabled you to believe I AM WHO I AM. And all good works, which come forth from you, are My works also. Therefore if one is to be healed in accordance with My will, that same one must surrender to Me and My will, making no effort to increase their faith by human power as a means to a desired end. Rather they acquiesce... Knowing that all things will be done In their proper time and season, According to the love Of their Father in Heaven... Doubting nothing... Says The Lord." And He, the Holy I AM came down to us i the flesh so we may know, YAHUWAH caused to be YAHUSHUA, the perfect sacrifice. For He said "Let there be a Lamb without spot or blemish, sacrificed for the atonement of sin,” and so it was. A blameless sacrifice, no man was found blameless, not one. Thus it had to be God Himself, out of great love. Consider the love of The Father brothers and sisters, for since the beginning He knew you and your salvation was assured. Behold, thus says the Lord: "Behold My hands and My feet, And consider My love... For the scars of My passion remain, A holy, everlasting covenant, Written in the blood of The Lamb... Taste and see, beloved, drink! Until that which is veiled is veiled no longer, Until the void within your heart is filled... For My love was written in every stripe I endured for you, Poured out in every drop of blood I shed for you, Revealed when you pierced My hands and My feet... Beloved, I am married unto you!... A union sealed forever in the blood we share... Says The Lord YahuShua." Says He whose name is YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH, amen! Sealed forever, for all sons and daughters given to The Father, The Son shall not lose any of them. You've searched in the Scriptures of Truth, yet remained hungry. Dont be surprised, for a warning was given and remains so to this day (deutenoromy 4:2). Freely i received, freely i give you His plain Answer. Eat, drink and receive peace. For the Lord has revealed: "The Lord is eternal; HE IS! He never ends! His love, His mercy, His justice, His majesty, His glory, His sorrow, all that He is endures forever! Likewise His creation has no end, no boundaries! There are no limits to contain it, for it is as He is!... HE IS THE CREATOR!... Everlasting, eternal, The Alpha and Omega, The Beginning and The End, The First and The Last by whom all things exist and have their being, through whom all living things have life! Kiss The Son, therefore! Bow down heavily and give Him glory! Let the knowledge of who He is fill your heart with wonder and awe, with great reverence and worship! Give Him thanks and praise! For Holy is The Lord God Almighty, His ways past finding out! For who can understand the knowledge of The Lord contained within creation, or know the depths of His wisdom?! Yet His Glory surrounds us on every side, testifying to His majesty beyond question! Indeed, we are without excuse! Behold, even the whole of creation shouts, “YAHUSHUA is YAHUWAH!” For it is He by whom all things consist, It is He who causes to be... For The Lord our God is One!" Amen! Let the Truth fill your heart with wonder and awe. Heed this trumpet call, for the Volumes of Truth are a testament of His sacrifice and love put forth again. Also a trumpet of alarm of war and recompense. Hear what the Word of the Lord spoken to this generation says of the path made straight again: "Behold, My words shall never pass away, for as I am so also is My Word. For it proceeds from Me, being manifest by He Who Is True, also being called The Word... Living... Always feeding His flock the Word which is written for their nourishment, which is to be received through that part of Himself which is also in Me, The Spirit called Holy, which speaks to the truth of who I am, glorifying Him who I sent to you who bears My name and reveals My glory in Himself, even as I am glorified through Him, His glory being the same I own. For We are One from the beginning, yet manifest as two in the earth, so those whom I have chosen may know Me and come to Me and receive life. For I am The Lord, and I do not change." ~ "Yet that which I speak at present must be put first. Thus that which is contained in the Volumes of Truth is foremost, and must be brought to the forefront for all to behold. Not that this Word is at all superior; neither shall it be considered inferior to My Word found in the Scriptures of Truth. For My Word is My Word; all I speak is Scripture and Truth. And that which I speak in the hearing of My prophets is written and put forth for the generation in which it is to be received, foremost, whether they will hear or whether they will forbear. And as it was in all times past, when I spoke by My servants, the prophets, and they in turn both wrote and spoke My words aloud, saying, “Thus says The Lord,” so it is at this time also, even during the end of this age which is upon you. Again, I say to you, that which proceeds from My mouth at present is foremost, and shall not be put second to My Word spoken aforetime. Neither is one a foundation for the other, as though the Word proceeding from My own mouth is in need of anything to uphold it; nor is any other witness required to prove My Word as My own, when I Myself have spoken it... MY WORD STANDS! Therefore, let My present Word be shown to be in full agreement with My former Word. For it is indeed in perfect agreement with My Word as it was, yet runs straight in comparison with that which men have made crooked. Here is wisdom few have considered, nor have they understood: If one who confesses Me lacks discernment, on account of ears which remain dull of hearing and eyes which remain dim in seeing, let them test My Word by My Word only. For any who test outside My Word, according to the words or doctrines of men, shall fail and be found in contempt before The Lord. For I alone sit as judge. Indeed, they have failed to see that My Word in the Volumes of Truth, also being called the Letters, is the rod by which the translations of men are to be tested, a light which shines upon the doctrines of men to expose them, revealing them to be blasphemies and heresies before God, all of which shall burn up in the Day, when the fire comes to test the quality of each man’s work. Therefore, if one professing faith be wise, He shall humble himself before Me, Calling upon the name of The Holy One For knowledge, in where all understanding Flows to the truly contrite and penitent, Flowing in pure testimony, free from corruption... And by this only shall one be wise in the reading, Comparing that which was given with that Which is put forth once again, discerning The Source and The Author to be the same... One Word, One Book, One on-going Testament to My glory; By no means shall it be divided into three!... Says The Lord."
*Isa **48:16* Come near to me and listen to this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it happened, I was there. *And now the Lord God has sent His Spirit in and with me* Amplified Bible
(Praying for the dead Bible verse)***** Maccabees 12:46 It is, therefore, a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.
Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Is Jesus telling the truth!
Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. 17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. A. The Lord (ʼĂdônây "Master" - Title of God. First letter capitalized rest of the letters lower case) B, And his Spirit (Luke 10:21 - The Spirit of your Father. God is a Spirit John 4:24) C. Sent Me. (The flesh born of the woman made under the law - Galatians 4:4) But it's the SAME GOD with DIVERSITIES OF OPERATIONS (1 Corinthians 12:6) SAME GOD operating as the Father in Creation - Malachi 2:10 SAME GOD operating as the Word in Revelation - Deuteronomy 29:29 SAME GOD operating as the Son in Propitiation - 1 John 4:10 SAME GOD operating as the Holy Ghost in Power - Romans 15:13 Diversities in Operation no where written God in three persons. D. The LORD (יְהֹוָה "iᵉhôvâh "Jehovah'" - The Name of God in the Law - Exodus 6:3) E. I am the (Jehovah) LORD thy God. The SAME GOD all in all. Father, Son, Holy Ghost. How do we know? Because of the testimony in Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Colossians 2:9 (KJV) You hear that? That's The Sound of The MIC dropping. Who's Next?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I was. AND IN NAME OF FATHER SON AND HO,Y SPIRIT. MINISTER SAID "IN JESUS NAME I BAPTISE YOU IN THE NAME OF FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT." THEN THE 2 MINISTERS LAID HANDS ON ME TO RECEIVE HOLY SPIRIT. AND I FELT A DISCERNIBLE PRESENCE. NOW I KNOW IT WAS JESUS OR SPIRIT IN ACTION. MUCH LATER I SPOKE IN TONGUES. DO YOU THINK THIS IS A VALID BAPTISM? It WAS IN 1970.
Thanks for sharing your view, we purchased a book you reviewed a few weeks ago, Is Jesus in the Godhead or Is the Godhead in Jesus? By Gordon Magee , wish I had of had this 30 years ago, it is EXCELLENT, I recommend it to all my "Trinity" brothers. I began seeing the DUAL NON mixed natures of Christ very soon after being Born Again, but my 3 in 1 kept throwing me, what opened my eyes was HOW Paul addressed the GodHEAD singular, and how the Epistles began their introductions, I ran the creation dates of the Pauline Epistles vs 1 John 5:7 and realized Paul could of NEVER used that verse ( if had of been in the original text ) because the book had not yet been written. When Jesus said God IS spirit, and then latter the scriptures state The Lord is Spirit, along with the Spirit, Soul & Body of Christ being dissected by scripture I began to see WHAT was going on, the Roman Catholics basically turned Jesus or the Godhead into a scrambled egg with the teaching, doing so you CANNOT see the proper WORKING perspective between Christ the Man & His Father, and if you WEAKEN the humanity of Christ so ALL you see is Deity then you can create a NEW FALSE mediator on earth. The typical cop out of a typical Trinity thinking person is well "If I could explain God then He wouldn't be much of a God" LOL. I have found by study that there is PLENTY about Our God & Saviour that we CAN understand if we just allow the Spirit to reveal Himself to us. I now consider myself a Oneness Trinity Baptist LOL
The catholic church , which is the church founded by Jesus, got it right. God is triune. God is 3 persons. God is so complex that oneness pentecostals try to impose their presuppositions into the Scriptures. Why did the Early Church , all of whom read and spoke Greek, interpret the Bible as Trinitarian? Why would Jesus fail to hold his promise that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church (Matthew 16:18-19)? Does the Bible lie when it says the Church is base and column of truth (1 Timothy 3:15)? Why did Jesus give authority to the Church to settle disputes if the Church can just lie to us (Matthew 18:15-17)? Why did Paul, an Apostle of God almighty , go TO THE CHURCH to settle the circumcision dispute (Acts 15)? God is triune. Literally no verse refutes the Trinity or proves Oneness.
(Isaiah 48:16) To deny or misunderstand the Trinity is to deny or misunderstand the verry nature of God himself Isaiah 43:10; 44:6-8; Zechariah 12: 1-10. If you don’t get that your in denial
1 John 4:9 “In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.”
I find it strange that what the Jews believed about God is used as an argument for oneness. These are the same people who reject Jesus as THE Messiah. Are we to give that credence as well?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa NOT sure of your point with John 4:22-24 King James Version 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Just because the Jews rejected Jesus does it mean they dont know who God is...the bible says even the demons know who God is, "Thou believest that there is one God, thou doest well, the devils also believe and tremble."
How about the very first christian jews who accepted Jesus as the messiah? They shared the same belief that God is one, as those Jews who rejected Jesus as the messiah.
I look at it like this I believe what the Holy Bible says about the Lord Jesus and I put in hours of study for years I believe JESUS is Yahweh the only Almighty God is he the son of God yes in my reading the Holy Spirit put this on my mind "when you look at God you see Jesus when you look at Jesus you see God " I have peace that God took on flesh and Died on the cross for me my allegiance is to Yahweh Jesus Christ he is my Lord and my God . Hear o Israel Yahweh is our God Yahweh is One Jesus said you see me you see the father he calls himself the first and the last and the Almighty God that's enough for me the I AM
It's a correlation of things to come. Things that needed to be said to further our understanding. John 18:20 King James Version 20 Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. God testified, the word testified and the spirit testify about Jesus. 1 John 5:7 King James Version 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
If JESUS is THE FATHER and THE HOLY SPIRIT why did HE return back to HEAVEN to HIMSELF and sit on the right hand of HIMSELF and send HIMSELF THE COMFORTER back to us but say HE'S coming again? Is HE coming in the clouds or is HE with us but not really because HE'S gonna forsake us so we can see HIM return? and if so is HE lying because HE said THE COMFORTER will never leave us? So when the FATHER sent THE SON it was JESUS sending HIMSELF but THE SON didn't send THE FATHER because scriptures say The FATHER sent THE SON? So HE prayed to HIMSELF,talks to HIMSELF and lies and confuses us although THE BIBLE says different? So JESUS looked to HEAVEN and called on HIMSELF and turned HIS back on HIMSELF but HE was on THE Cross? So oneness teaches GOD is the author of confusion .
Good morning. I hope this finds you well. I have spoken with you before but this video was the one that I listened to. Again John 14:28 speaks against your position. Can you please explain it to me without changing the words of scripture or jumping to theological conclusions. Please stay in the verse. Thank you.
I’ve got a video or 2 on that. I don’t do the things you say. Father/Son language, easy. It seems I answer this question constantly. Yet it is 100% Oneness.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa the problem for the oneness side is that you assume what the text says and means. But the text does not say that. The text says Jesus is speaking and talking about the Father. Oneness theology says that Jesus is the Father. That is an ontological statement of being. The issue is this and if you can explain your position that would be great… in this verse if Jesus is the Father then the verse is nonsense. The Father is not greater than the Father. If this Jesus is not the Father then this Jesus is not God and therefore there are two named Jesus, one God and one man that speak and have relationship with one another. If you say that you don’t please explain. Thank you for your time.
Jesus is both Father and Son. That is where your analysis breaks down. Also, please see my video on why I don’t debate in the comment section. I’ve explained this verse ad naseum on video. It is a primary Oneness verse. Ps Trinitarians assume what Scripture is saying. If not, there would be no trinity.@@revbray
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa hello my friend. I am aware that Jesus is both Father and Son to you. That won’t help your case. When Jesus speaks as the Son is he still the Father? If you say no then you have two named Jesus that can talk to one another and relate to one another. If you say yes he is still the Father then the Father says he is greater than himself and that is nonsense. If you do not want to continue this conversation please point me to who can. I have have been asking oneness believers this question for over twenty years and I have never received an answer. I have watched many of your videos and have not heard you address this verse. Please leave some links to videos where you speak on this verse. I will gladly listen to them. I am not asking for debate but an explanation to this text from a oneness view that is consistent with both scripture and oneness theology. Thank you.
Let me try to make a video. As you know, I don’t do discussions in the comment section, and have a video explaining why. This sounds like an old Bob Ross argument your presenting. @@revbray
The trinity was man made and was created in the span of 600 years. To believe in it, is to believe in false doctrine or a false Christ. 1 Timothy 3:16, “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” Who came in the flesh? Christ did. who was preached unto the Gentiles? Christ was. Who was received up into glory? Christ was. This starts off with, “and without controversy” this means without disagreement or without argument. Then it makes a bold statement, “God was..” it doesn’t say the second in the Godhead, or the Son God. It says “God.” Isaiah 9:6, “ “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” This scripture is the prophecy of Christ. The scriptures calls him the “everlasting Father.” Who’s the everlasting Father? According to Isaiah’s prophecy, Christ is, not “Father God.” Remember the Pharisees crucified Jesus for making himself God and making himself equal to God. You cannot deny these scriptures. Also, Jesus in the book of Revelation refers to himself as Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. Alpha is the first letter in the Greek alphabet and Omega is the last letter in the Greek alphabet. In Isaiah the Lord refers to himself as the first and the last. He also says there is no god before him neither will there be one after him. Besides him there is no savior. It also says there is only one who sits on the throne in heaven. In Isaiah 6, Isaiah sees the Lord sitting on the throne, and in Revelation 4, John sees Christ sitting on the throne. So if God said there isn’t any gods besides him before or after and that besides Him, there is no savior (Isaiah 44:6, Isaiah 43:11) both God and Christ are saying they are the first and the last and they are both are on the throne but John only sees one on the throne. And before both the angels are crying “Holy Holy Holy, Is the Lord God Almighty (Lord of host)” (Isaiah 6:3, Revelation 4:8). How can both scriptures be true. They are contradicting each other. The only way for the scriptures to agree is if Christ, God manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16), the image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15), the everlasting Father (Isaiah 9:6), is the one true God. Believing in the trinity contradicts these scriptures. To believe in one God agrees with what Israel’s believed in since Abraham. To believe in the trinity agrees with what pagans believed since ancient times. Also, remember who Jacob wrestled with. An man, angel, or God?
Trinity was actually around much longer. The trinity belief is the birth of paganism. That's how far back it goes. ruclips.net/video/JOPdI7FUoFI/видео.html
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa oh ok. Can you explain this pastor. Water Baptism STUDY -- ; BRITANNICA ENCYCLOPEDIA 11TH edition, Vol 3, Pg 365-366 The baptismal formula was changed from the name of JESUS CHRIST to the words Father, Son, & Holy Ghost by the Catholic Church in the second century. ________________________________________ BRITANNICA ENCYCLOPEDIA Vol 3, Pg 82 Everywhere in the oldest sources it states that baptism took place in the name of Jesus Christ. ________________________________________ CANNEY ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION Pg 53 The early church always baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until development of Trinity doctrine in the 2nd century. ________________________________________ CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Vol 2, Pg 263 Here the Catholics acknowledged that baptism was changed by the Catholic Church. ________________________________________ HASTINGS ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION Vol 2, Pg 377 Christian baptism was administered using the words “In the name of Jesus”. Vol 2, Pg 378 The use of a Trinitarian formula of any sort was not suggested in early Church history. Vol 2, Pg 389 Baptism was always in the name of Lord Jesus until the time of Justin Martyr when Triune formula was used. ________________________________________ CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Vol 8 Justin Martyr was one of the early Fathers of the Roman Catholic Church. ________________________________________ HASTINGS ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION Vol 2, Pg 377 on ACTS 2:38 NAME was an ancient synonym for “person”. Payment was always made in the name of some person referring ownership. Therefore one being baptized in Jesus Name became his personal property. “Ye are Christ’s.
That’s the best you’ve got? OK let’s start with the fact that this doesn’t help the doctrine of the trinity either because in the preceding verses, and after God refers to himself in singular pronouns. Let’s now talk about the context of the chapter and point out that none of the verses are prophecies about the Messiah but rather how God will overthrow the Chaldeans. Also, reading the whole chapter, we see that God refers to himself as the first and the last, and so does Jesus in revelation so this is God, the Father talking why is Jesus saying this if he’s God, the Son? Next, we know in the Bible that any time the Spirit of God is mentioned, it precedes with a demonstration of his power and because of the context of this verse, that’s not surprising it says “his spirit has sent me”. Lastly, literally read the next verse it says “thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel. According to Trinitarian’s, God the Son is the redeemer, but the verse is clearly talking about God, the Father, so which is it?
1 Timothy 4:1 “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;” that's you got it Hmm!
@@newenglandsun4394 Yes I can. I’ve explained it repeatedly on the channel and elsewhere. I’ll never repent for having a correct view about God. God bless you!
Interesting how you mention omnipresence, a name given to a characteristic of God seen throughout the Bible, that isn’t explicitly said in the Bible, then use “the Trinity isn’t mentioned in the Bible” as an argument. Please, oneness Pentecostals... find a different argument.
It not just trinity, it’s: triune seperate, co-equal, co-eternal 3 hypostasis 3 persons 1st person 2nd person 3 rd person eternal generation eternal begotten circumibcision interpenetration ie perichorisis Basically the entire trinitarian lingo, not just the word trinity.
How does Jesus confess and deny people before the Father if he is the Father? (Matt. 10:32) Also, Jesus says, "Come ye blessed of my Father." but he is His Father? (Matt. 25:34)
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Also, if the Son/Father Jesus Christ is just a flesh suit that didn't even exist until the incarnation and every time he (Jesus Christ the Son/Father) prayed to the Spirit/Father he was praying as a man to Spirit... 👇🏻 📖 John 17:5 (NKJV) And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. How did the Spirit/Father share glory with the Son/Father BEFORE THE WORLD WAS if the Son is just a skin suit and didn't even exist until the incarnation?
that man is DEVINE: You see there is historical evidence that proves Jesus is and was a historical person, but that evidence goes further and shoes that not only was he a historical person, but Jesus indeed is God. Let’s look at the resin we can know that Jesus is divine, you see good men don’t accept worship, Matthew 14:33. John 9:38. Matthew 28:9. good men don’t forgave sins, Luke 7:48. Jesus claimed to be God. Good men don’t claim to be God. John 8:57-58 John 10:33. old Testament Prophecies said the Messiah would be God. Isaiah 9:6. Jesus’ Followers worshiped him as God.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa This verse has often been used by atheists. The whole scene with Jesus praying in the garden saying “Hey God, it’s me....you.” As a trinitarian, this is a strawman. However to a oneness, it plays into it and seems all the more peculiar
Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." Jesus says only the Father knows the time for His 2nd coming, and He can't lie. So how can it be possible for God does not know what God knows? The only reason is because the Father is not the Son and has the authority to decide something that the Son needs to be informed about by the Father. Brothers and sisters, the line is clear between the Son and the Father and the Holy Ghost, They are 3 diferent persons, with individual authorities, but all 3 are also One God. The Bible says what it says, and the words of Jesus are eternal.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa So is it that you rather not call Them persons because they are still One God? I'm honestly trying to understand where oneness comes from, but I can't see past these verses where there's such a clear separation between the 3 ( fill in the blank ). And why not co-equal? Who has the higher authority? Again, I'm not trolling, I'm just trying to understand. Thanks
@@ByGraceThroughFaith777 It would be much better if you watched the dozens of videos I’ve done on the subject my friend. Much more effective than the comment section. Thanks.
Do th signs of Mark 15:16-17 follow you if not you have no right to talk about GOD. Are you baptised in the HOLY SPIRIT with tongues as a vindicator ? IF NOT YOU HAVE NOTHING
The bible is one. One in book many in page. How many people do you know that are their own father or a son that fathered himself? Do you call yourself your father or call yourself son when talking about yourself? If Jesus is an example for you to fallow and he acts like his father is a different person from himself and always When's the first day of relationship why would you say the trinity is wrong? Muslims call God the greatest of deceivers, and they also deny the trinity
John 1:2 Jesus having fellowship with God. Verse 2 He was in the beginning with God. Now look at verse 15 where John the Baptist bore witness to it, he says, for He was before me.” Ps check out The Holy Spirit. Many holy spirits but one Spirit. Acts 2:3 “And there appeared unto them ****cloven*** tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.”
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa know your Bible first before you teach blasphemy. Deut 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” the one in this verse is (Echad עִבְרִית) plural if God wanted to say an absolute one no other than one. he would have used (Yachid יָחִיד is single) one an absolute one no other than one.
if you read your Bible correctly you will find it reads. he was preferred before me: now getting back to the word who is Jesus there is no way Jesus was created if his name is word
Well I think If you a trinitarian , you’re furiously angry because is a can of worms has been opened up by this teaching, first of all we should read the scriptures and believe what it says, we have been argued and not trusting the word of God. I want to be fair and ask question that you may asked and was causing doubts. Why God allow the confusion in the scriptures? You asked yourself first, am I genuine and honest on my search for God or am I just follow a false religion? Let say in the scriptures God says he is ALONE and there is no one beside him. Then you say the word Elohim is plural. My understanding the word itself is not necessarily plural, but we cannot tell someone, there is someone with you if he says he is ALONE and there is no ONE beside him. And we must understand that called Abraham and his seed to reveal to us the truth and there was no confusion among them in their understanding of their Elohim is ONE and By himself and there was no one with him or beside him. So are we going to tell GOD that he been lied to us because we see many beside you? What in the world that we are telling him something is not true? Well either we crazies or know more than God. Stay with the word of God , because we believe he is ONE but we entangled ourselves with a human terminology to explain God and not of God word. I want to talk about why God said let US make man in our image after our likeness. We believe that God the FATHER created the SON GOD before everything created but how and when the HOLY GHOST GOD was FOUND? I don’t know what in the mind of people that brought this confusion to bring damnation to us, the spirit of God reveal to apostles, we will believe a lie and there will be false prophets and teachers will draw lots of people away from the faith. Let go on and declare that he is ALONE and HE is WORTHY to receive HONOUR and GLORY because HE has redeemed us with his OWN BLOOD, amen. Why do we want to divide the glory of God to three distinct beings, and we brought damnation to ourselves. Please don’t mislead people, eternity is too long to be wrong. Lots of love from us to all that are searching for truth, We are sure you will find the truth, because he promised.Thank you Jesus, amen.
We don’t need to explain it brother, as we know the long version of 1 John 5:7 is not original to the Greek text. There is a ton of manuscript proof for that, plus a ton of scholarship to back it up. It’s one of the clearest proofs the Trinity doctrine is false, because they desperately had to add a verse to the Bible to fit the Trinity doctrine into scripture. Praise Jesus it’s exposed!
Your hilarious! We don’t need to explain Scripture because I’ll bring up a totally unrelated subject? That’s just weird. Are you ok? You gotta have something way better than that.
New Life Of Albany Ga. Well in the video you brought up the 1 John 5:7 subject, so I’m not sure how I’m bringing up an unrelated subject. I realize man-made traditions are hard to shake off but at least you’re praying to the one true God. God bless you and your sarcasm. 🙏😀
I saw this a few years ago as the Lord allowing it in scripture to EXPOSE the Anti Christ so called "Church" because it doesn't fit MANY of the clear scriptures of the Dual Nature of Christ
"1 Jn 5:7 not in the Greek text"...a false claim by modern Textual Critics; however, it does appear in old Greek texts, Latin texts (same time period), quoted by many church fathers older than those texts. It has vast evidence. Here's a 30 page easy read for $4 and $3 kindle. www.amazon.com/John-KJV-Textual-Joshua-Alvarez/dp/109729482X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1593906961&sr=1-3
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2 Peter 1 20 KJV
There is only one faith, one Lord, and one baptism!
Yep no two baptisms just one water babptism
That's not the whole verse... Ephesians 4:5.
Never is the whole verse lol
The lord said unto my lord. Seems like Two
If that 2 lorda then david missed out your 3rd one ha ha ha didnt adress the holy spirit dont be stupid 1 lord 1 spirit 1 faith 1 baptism 1 lord because that same lord became davids lord too because he manifested into the flesh simple baby stuff how do you trinitarians not understand well i dont expect anything different for you guys because you spread false doctrine@@faithfultheology
Trinitarians and Oneness pentecostal both believe there is one God. The Christian faith is monotheistic.
I grew up in oneness pentecostalism and the issue I always faced is that the theology became problematic when I began to really read and study the Bible. The Spirit gave me further revelation and the scriptures began to highlight that God is triune. He is indeed One God who exists in 3 distinct person who share the same essence.Just as a man and his wife become 1 flesh, or just as there is 1 church with many members, so is God. He is One being existing in 3 coeternal persons with the same essence. This is how Jesus can pray to the Father (John 17), this is how The Spirit intercedes according to The will of God. (John 8:26) and testifies about jesus (John 15:26). Jesus also intercedes for the saints at The right hand of The Father (Revelation 8:34, John 17). As The spirit began to guide me through the text, He began to take me to Jesus's baptism (Matthew 3) where The Father clearly states "This is my beloved Son In Whom I am well pleased" while The Spirit descended on him. These truths were hard for me to except because I was told different for most my life. I had came to a cross road where I had to decide which way I would go. I chose to go back to oneness because it was all I knew. So I began to go through my Bible and say, "if I can't find a scripture that shows The trinity in heaven, I'm going back" . Then The spirit lead me to a familiar verse in Revelation chapter 4 that I would refer to when defending oneness beliefs I had, and the spirit said "keep reading ". So I kept reading about The One who sat on the throne in chapter 4 who I assumed was Jesus since I was taught Jesus was The only one on the throne. But as I kept reading into chapter 5, Then an individual is introduced who is referred to as The Lamb that was slain, The seed of David, and of the tribe of Judah. We all know who that is, that is Jesus. The The Lamb (jesus) walks up to The one on the throne (The Father) and takes the book out of his hand, since he was worthy (equally honorable) to do so. It also mentions The 7 spirits of God before The throne as well (7 fold ministry of the spirit mentioned in Isaiah). So The Spirit answered my question. Then I asked, well where is the trinity in The old tetsment. The the Spirit took me to the book of Daniel chapter 7 that is a vision of The future Messiah referred to as The Son of Man and The Father referred to as The Ancient of Days destroyed Satan and The antichrist .
So the scriptures teaches us clearly about The trinity. Their are many more examples all throughout the new testament of distinctions between The Father and The Son, and The Holy spirit stated by Jesus himself. We can't exclusively go to The old testament to teach about The Godhead because it is as Paul refers to in Colossians 2 a "shadow" of things to come. The fullness has been revealed by The Spirit unto the church ( 1 Corinthians 2:6-16).
The Spirit will guide you into all truth (John 16:13) if we allow him to. Growth is all part of serving God. We cannot become like The saints Paul referred to in ( Hebrews 5:11) as believers who are "too lazy to understand". We must study so that we further understand the debts of God's word, his nature, and our callings so that we can not only live it properly but teach it properly. Grace and love to all.
Read john 3:13
@@sivaboopathy5751 John 3:13 actually disproves oneness because oneness doesn’t believe that the Son came down from heaven, But Jesus Christ who is the Son Of God said he came down from heaven so he the Son Of God came down from heaven because he said he did.
It wasn’t the Father who came down because the Father was the one who sent the Son.
Again disproving oneness
@@animatednostalgia5034 actually you are way off. The scripture says the son of man which is in heaven. But at that moment Jesus was on earth.🤔 so there is another meaning. And also don’t forget Jesus clearly says the Father was dwelling in him.
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
And again
2 cor 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
So yes the Father came down in flesh.
@@revamp6612 so Jesus dwelt In himself?
Jesus is not the Father
Nowhere in the New Testament does it say that Jesus is the Father
Jesus has a Father so how can he be the Father?
The Father dwelling in him was the Holy Ghost dwelling in him just like the Holy Ghost dwells in everyone else.
Jesus is God’s Son
When you make Jesus the Father then your saying that God has no Son
@@animatednostalgia5034 now you are getting somewhere. So basically as you have stated the Holy Ghost and the Father are the same. The Son is the Flesh/body/temple for God the Father/ Holy Ghost to dwell in.
God manifest in flesh. Now when God manifested in flesh his name is called Jesus.
In John 17:11 Jesus prays that the disciples may be one even as he and the father are one. In John 10:30 he says he and the Father are one. If Oneness believe the One in John 10:30 means same person rather than same in agreement then why don't they believe when he references that "one" again in John 17:11 that he was praying the Disciples are all the same person? No, he was praying the disciples may be one as he and the father are one John 17:11.........if Jesus meant one person then when he references it he would have meant all the disciples are one person because he said one as he and the father are one so the "one" means the disciples are one in agreement or one in accord and so too he even referenced that one he had with the father.
Father and Son, Humanity and Deity.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Way I see John 17:11 is as a prophetic scripture Christ was stating about Pentecost, they DID become ONE when Christ aka the H.S. came to live within them.
We believe ALL the scriptures in the KJB. We believe they are one in the same AND in agreement, not rather... because that's what the bible teaches. In John 17 he also prayed for everyone that received and obeyed what the apostles taught...like being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, just like Jesus commanded in Mt 28:19, Mk 16, Lk 24. Trinitarian or Oneness, everyone has to deal with that, if not you have skipped over the same command of Jesus and by the Apostles. In other words, you have not been washed.
Absolutely true, what you say!
Jaymie Harris the bible never says one in agreement, it simply says I and my Father are one. That could and should be taken as God and Jesus are the same in being and in person...you have to take into account all the other Scriptures where Jesus clearly says he is God John 8:58 for example. The Jews never believed that Jesus was making himself to be "another" co-equal person, but God the Father in the flesh. If the Trinity were true then there would be no doubt or questioning it, and there would be verse after verse confirming the most important truth in Scripture-that is Gods nature....for me there are too many questions and doubts about the trinity doctrine.
Just so you know, it doesn't actually say "and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.". Please consider reading that verse 48:16c in Hebrew, as it is literally written: "and now, My Master Yehovah has sent Me and His Spirit". As a Jew, I am in full agreement with Oneness doctrine, and certainly believe Yeshua is the same ONE Yehovah, born as a man, exactly as y'all Oneness Pentecostals understand and believe. Amen. Having said that, there are plenty of literal & undeniable references of Yehovah in the Tanakh, that the rabbis have identified as clearly more than one and yet, still One. I don't have a problem with that. I've learned to appeal to Deuteronomy 29:29 so I don't even try to explain. Just as trinitarians, in the NT, have identified literal & undeniable references of more than one and yet, still One. In the NT cases, I've learned to appeal to John 16:12 so I also don't even try to explain. I've come to realize that as long we stay on the side of Oneness, we're safe. Whereas, some have crossed the line; because they deny Yeshua's deity. And if so, that's a different Jesus. The real Jesus told us that would happen (Mat. 24:5, Mar. 13:6, Luk. 21:8). Paul also told us there would be "another Jesus" (2-Corinthians 11:4).
Amen!
I also think the same. I would much rather err on the side of proclaiming Jesus Christ to be the one and only true God than like some people who go as far to say the father is greater than the son, or worse like you said deny his deity.
Isaiah 48:16 Dead sea scrolls: Now the Lord Yahweh has sent me, with his Spirit,
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa read the dead sea scrolls
@@ranospiteri5776 I do. Certainly not trinitarian.
I’ll say this. When the current oneness ideology was called Sabellianism, it was rejected by the Church. When it was modalism, it was rejected by the Church.
It attached itself to Pentecostalism about 100 years ago in the US and grew from there. It was rejected centuries ago and should be rejected today.
It was the belief of the early Church
Amen
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Oneness, as UPC teach it today, was not the belief of the early church. They believed in the Father, they believed in the pre-existent Son and they believed in the Holy Ghost. I’m early writings, it was evident that they believed in three persons that was the ONE God.
@@TimNewton0829 No it’s not. That’s why they never used terminology currently in use by trinitarians.
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What terminology? The word Trinity? That’s an intellectually deficient argument. I can give you quotes from early church fathers. Better yet, I can give you quotes from the NT authors.
The problem I have with the baptism of Jesus is that Jesus is talking to himself if you believe oneness. Why would one person need to talk to himself?
Flesh and Spirit. Btw when you think, you are talking to yourself. We are in the image of God.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I dont know about you but I've never called myself "my son". That's cause I'm not my son and Jesus isn't his own son. He's the son who exists eternally with the father. I'm praying for you brother cause you're in a oneness, works based, cult.
As I see it Jesus was our example in HOW we are to relate to an Invisible God, pretty simple to me
We should deny our own reasoning and accept the Bible as written. Jesus commanded it in Mt 28:19, Mk 16, and Luke 24. The Apostles obeyed that command all through the book of Acts when, without fail, they baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ (or the name of the Lord, the Lord Jesus = the name of Jesus Christ).
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Flesh and spirit?.......please explain then how Jesus is seated WITH God, on God's throne, at present.
Yes, the Jews understood that passage as referring to "the two powers in Heaven" until the 2nd and third century they saw two there. Just read an actual Scholar like Michael Heiser and it’s pretty clear in the Hebrew text.
The Jews nowhere believed in 2 co-equal powers in heaven. Also, I’m glad you’ve left the trinity for binatarianism. You’re halfway there!
And 2 co-equal powers in heaven is nowhere mentioned in Scripture.
New Life Of Albany Ga. that’s how the Jews understood it and early Christians understood the Tri-Unity of One God. You have to literally put blinders on to ignore the overwhelming evidence that the Scriptures teach on the Tri-unity of God. I dare anyone to read The Unseen Realm and Reversing Hermon by Michael Heiser who knows nine ancient languages and is a Hebrew scholar and still come away a “Oneness” believer.
Why should anyone cares what an "actual Scholar" says or believes? What modern "Scholars' " are focused on, is that you believe what THEY say the bible REALLY means. Which of non-original Hebrew texts are you refering to?
@@OrthodoxJourney359 Is there a bible endorsement for us to go to scholars and that know many languages? I dare anyone to just read the Bible just as it is unfiltered through scholars, the Strong's Concordance, etc, etc, etc. God gave us knees to bend and a heart that must be humbled and prayer to God as a prerequisite to understanding what his word says.
One of the main issues of Isaiah 48:16 for Trinitarians is it puts Jesus as the speaker in this whole section from their point of view... Then if you read the verses around it, it's obviously the father talking according to Trinitarians, but there is no speaker change.... This would imply Jesus is the same speaker throughout Isaiah, which makes sense, since it was Jesus he seen on the throne in chapter 6 according to John, who the Angels called the Lord of hosts, then Isaiah continues to call the speaker the same name throughout the book... This makes perfect sense with oneness, with Jesus being the Word of God, so anytime the Father speaks it is his Word speaking... I really don't get it, why people think a someone's word would be a different person from them? Or someone's spirit being a different person... God bless
Thank you! Excellent
I was fully expecting the topic to be on 1 Timothy 2:12. The Bible is clear. We as UPCI need to return back to taking this scripture at face value. No excuses.
I think what people struggle with is singing according to Scripture is part of teaching doctrine. And ladies teach mixed Sunday school classes.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa that’s good to know. My understanding was the the UPCI beliefs stated that women may pastor. While we do not have any woman pastors near us, I’ve seen women Wednesday night service and preach in conferences. I excused myself from the service so as the woman won’t be in violation of 1 Timothy. I am glad I was wrong and the UPCI does not allow women to pastor.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 The UPCI overall does allow that, but there is great diversity of belief within the UPCI on the subject.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa thank you for taking time to reply to me. I find that UPCI leaders as a whole are very hesitant to engage with people that question beliefs. Back to your topic of singing. I found that most, if not very close to all UPCI churches have completely removed hymns from praise. I have asked time and time again to return to hymns and hymnals but get push back and refusal every time. So I agree with you that there is struggle. My heart is NOT in modern, worldly contemporary “Christian” music. I find that most of these contemporary artists don’t attend church regularly and live worldly lives. I also find that my church uses contemporary songs from Hillsong and Bethel which I refuse to engage in due to their abuse of their congregation.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 I beg my local Church for hymns. Our worship leaders all say they don’t know them. Sad
I have no idea how your beliefs get past John chapter 17. Verse 21 pretty much shuts it down, we are one in Jesus as Jesus is one in the father....clearly we are independent of Christ and also one, so we must conclude that Jesus is independent and one with the father. Oneness doctrine makes scripture idiotic. The father and Jesus are clearly independent but also one.
1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
Basically trinitarian dogma doesn’t acknowledge the Father is in the Son in any real way. That goes back to Tertullian. So John 17:21 refutes trinitarianism in a very real way.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa If the Holy Spirit is what binds the Father and Son together, just as it binds us to Jesus, how would that refute a trinity? You dont have to bring in the trinity to disprove your modelism.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa John 10:38 ... "that the Father is in me" John 14:10 ........."the Father in me" ..... "the Father that dwelleth in me" John 14:11 ......."the Father in me" >>>> SO, are you saying Jesus was lying here? Deceiving us here with HIS words???
@@REVNUMANEWBERN of course the Father is in Jesus...Jesus is the Father manifested in the flesh. Jesus is the image of the invisible God. Jesus is the only Father that will be seen...and because of all of that, Jesus said emphatically "if you have seen me, you have seen the Father"
@@REVNUMANEWBERN Nope we we believe that same way, but that's not all he said. So, if you ignore the rest you can conveniently claim people dont believe what Jesus said. Fine, but YOU just don't believe ALL that he said.
There is one verse that I haven't heard a Trinitarian answer to and I've looked.
Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
KJV
That one is simple. Its talking about the fullness of God's nature. The "fullness" is to note that he was not simply a man who possesses the Spirit, like you and I do, but he in fact is fully God and fully man. This one of many scriptures that affirm Jesus's deity. All things were created through him and form him. Long before he was in flesh, he was with The Father in the beginning (John 1:1, Hebrews 1:1-2)
@@user-yh3cy8tj1d he preexisted as the
Logos or Word or Thought/Plan
@@timc5922 Question, where in the bible does it say that Jesus was a thought/plan in the mind of God? Your statement insinuates that he didn't exist until His incarnation and it insinuates that He is a creation himself, which is clearly false based on the Scriptures.
@@user-yh3cy8tj1d John 1
@@user-yh3cy8tj1d why is God limited by time. He has always existed to God. He has preeminence, He is the firstborn of all creation. Just like the lamb was slain before the foundation of the world.
John 17:5 to me is the most difficult for Oneness people who insist that the Logos existed just in thought.
It’s not. Gods glory He will not give to another.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Jesus had his own glory apart from his Father(God).
@@OurHumbleLife Jesus said, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." We find many worshippers and servants of Jesus in the New Testament... so which is it, do we serve the Father or the Son? We believe when we serve Jesus we are serving God because Jesus is the Word(God John 1:1) become flesh.
The trinitarian position of Jn 17:5, is based on the erroneous foundation that the divine glory of the Godhead, is shared. The divine glory of Jesus, which is the divine glory of God, is not shared, according to 1Tim 6:14-16, in which verses Jesus alone possesses his divine immortality. The divinity immortality of Jesus, is Jesus himself, which destroys the concept of a distinction of person and being.
Jesus was praying for another glory which he never had before, except within God's foreordained plan, where his resurrected glorified body is concerned.
Jesus asked the Father to 'glorify me with THINE OWN SELF, with THE GLORY I had with thee before the world was. The THINE OWN SELF is the same as the divine glory, where his divine glory is actually he himself, hence the Father and his divine glory, are inseparably one, where the Father himself is that divine glory, and not only a divine state that he possesses.
So from before the world was the man Jesus in God's foreordained plan had this glory with this divine glory with the Father, only in the incarnation where God in all his glory took on flesh as a man, which humanity was a part of God's plan from before the world was. But he was not praying for a divine glory which he always had during his incarnation, but for another glory which he never had before, that is, his glorified and resurrected flesh and bones.
The foundation of this verse, lies in verse 3, where the one who alone possesses divine immortality, is the same one Jesus said is the only true God. The Father IS the only true God. Does this mean that Jesus is not the true God? No, but the fact that the Father is the only true God, and that Jesus is the true God, must mean that Jesus is the Father.
Jesus alone possesses divine immortality. 1Tim 6:14-16; Rev 17:14. More than one divine glory, amounts to more than one God.
you must baptise in of the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
I do. Jesus
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa why does Jesus deffer from your miss quoting the Bible Matthew 28:19
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Why did GOD deceive the people? In Mathew 3:16 “And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:” 17 “And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” The Didache, 1st c. A.D. 7:1 Concerning baptism, you should baptize this way: After first explain all things, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, in flowing water. [same as Jesus instruction’s]. In Matt.28:19.
@@ranospiteri5776 It was fulfilled in the Name, Jesus. See Acts 2:38
@@ranospiteri5776 Matthew 28:19 is directing us to a “Name”. What is the name of the those three titles that jesus mentioned?? Its jesus.
In Genesis the Bible says, “Let US make man in OUR image.” In Revelation 6:16-17 the Bible says, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of THEIR wrath has come…” In Luke 23:46 the Bible says, “Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Father, into YOUR hands I commit my spirit.” Is Jesus talking to Himself here? In John 16:28 Jesus says, “I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.” Notice Jesus did not say, “I left heaven and became the son, and now I am going back to heaven to become the Father again. In John 16:38 Jesus says, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.” This verse is saying Jesus has His own will and the Father has His. Yes, they don’t disagree, of course, but still this verse speaks of two wills. In John 14:31 Jesus says, “…but so that the world may know that I love the Father, I do exactly as the Father commanded Me.” In John 5:19 Jesus says, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.” In John 1:1 the Bible says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was God.” If Oneness was true, shouldn’t this verse say, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.” John 6:44 says, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.” Again, if oneness was true, shouldn’t this verse say, “No one can come to me, unless I draw him.” In John 10:15, Jesus says, “…even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.” Matthew 26:29 says, “And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.” Read for yourself; does this sound like oneness, or is Jesus having conversations with the Father within the triune God-head?
I’ve got videos answering all of these. God bless!
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Yeah, but what does the Bible say?
@@Mike-qt7jp What I go thru on the videos. I don’t debate in the comment section. I’ve got a video detailing why.
the Apostles’ Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed-are all structured around our three in one God, underlying the essential importance of Trinitarian theology.
Haha! The Apostles creed was never seen by the Apostles. The NiceneCreed used now is not the Nicene creed currently used. And the Athanasian creed was never seen by Athanasius.
You’re a cultist appealing to extra-Biblical sources according to many. I love you but please learn what you’re talking about.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa What a weird comment. You talk about extra-Bibilical sources yet completely and utterly ignore that the Bible never would have existed in its current form without ecumenical councils and the gatherings of early church fathers. Who picked what books went into the bible? That highlights the main issue with Protestantism. They like to ignore the first 1000 years of Christianity and then wonder why heresies like oneness Pentecostalism arise...again. The issue of the Trinity was sorted out in the 4th century...hence the Apostles Creed. Blindly discounting early church fathers and blindly ignoring how the Bible even came about is folly to the nth degree.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Anti-Trinitarian theology is unbiblical Theology. At best its a milkfed surface level understanding of scripture, and at worst invents a whole new gospel.
@@iagoofdraiggwyn98 Nah. It’s Biblical.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Sure, if you close your eyes and pretend. But its quite explicit in scripture that There is one only God, of 3 persons.
Whether anyone likes it or not, scripture says the LORD is ONE.
I believe scripture.
Mark 12:29
“And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:”
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
Amen!
So Jesus's prayer in the garden was to Jesus, and that Jesus asked Jesus by praying, "Jesus, if it is Jesus's will, take this cup from Jesus, nevertheless not Jesus's will, but Jesus's be done?
This oneness thing has got me truly baffled, considering all that the Bible has to say.
I also notice that you compare things to the Jews and that they never found a Trinity anywhere and never had a problem with oneness (I am learning the terms now). But the Jews never followed God the right way and the whole Bible is full of the Jews doing things wrong and God trying to correct them. So to use the Jews and the way they worshipped as an example of the right way to worship God, without really giving specifics, and just using it generally,, makes the argument weak. Sorry.....
I understand trinity isn't used in the Bible. It is a name given as a label. And labels can oftentimes be skewed and misconstrued by people to push agendas of their own.
The trinity is what is baffling. Athanasius, the founder of the trinity, even said Jesus prayer was humanity to Deity.
Jesus said the Jews have the correct view of God John 4:21-24.
You don’t watch the channel much do you?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa don't worry. I will stop watching. I understand.
Revelations 4:2
And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
@@martinvisokey8958 yes! ONE sat on the throne and who was at the right hand of the Father? Making intercession for us and the Father?
I sent this to a friend concerning this topic:
I think that’s why we see the resurrection and taking on glorified body Still one person the human spirit is in the category of 1 person the human spirit and the Holy Spirit does not make for two God spirits
God spirit is not classified as person for it does things beyond what human is capable of
The human spirit was the expression of the image of the father being created in the image of the father in comparison to other humans with out sin
If we see that Christ had no sin he was not governed by the flesh but was God in the flesh in him the fullness of the God head I’m thinking this classifies the soul to whom the being is (God the father)
Our souls must be saved and we must be born of the spirit
Jesus the son was born of the spirit the Holy Spirit over shadowed marry
So the human spirit was the expression of the image of the father being made visible and without sin in the flesh so the soul “called Jesus” is the father the human spirit is the son expressing as the father (I and the father are 1)
If I am born again of the Holy Spirit I then will bring forth fruit my spirit is joined with the Holy Spirit
(After the spirit not after the flesh)
Temple of the Holy Spirit
My soul is (Aaron) human spirit is the expression of the image of my soul
the fruits of the spirit if I be of God
Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Romans 8:16
“The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:”
Conclusion
Before Adam and Eve…
“Let us make man in our image”
As I am seeing it in this passage of scripture
The soul (God the father)
Holy Spirit (expression of the father)
Yes in the beginning was the word
But when the son is begotten the human spirit is the expressed image of the father
Hebrews 1:3 (expressed image of his person = Expressing God the father)
God head bodily
God the father is invisible (the soul)
The Holy Spirit expresses through the human spirit as the vessel “abba”
God is One Genesis 1:26. 1 Peter 1:2. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost, this is the true Oneness. There are things you can’t use logic for you have to use Faith.
Son of God. Not God the Son. Nowhere in scripture is the term God the Son used. Son of God denotes subordination to the Father. Son denotes flesh contrasted by the Spirit. Son denotes beginning in his humanity vs everlasting in his deity. Jesus is Father. The Creator of all things. Jesus is Son. The only begotten whose flesh allowed him to become the sin sacrifice for us. And Jesus is the Holy Spirit. For it is His Spirit that inhabits and comforts the Christian.
Those TERMS MOST USED "God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost," CANNOT be found in scripture and the OBSTACLE that had me hung up, when I realized THOSE TERMS had been created by man then I began to see what this brother calls "Oneness"
Terence You see we believe the Trinity or Godhead because the Bible Teaches it. We can’t make things “Fit” I’m sorry nor can we just have one side of the coin and run with it if you read the whole bible you will find the Truth that God is One who through out the Whole Bible is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Jesus is Not the Father. Jesus is the Son of God who was 100% flesh human and IS 100% God the Son.
Numa Newbern what bible are you reading? Not trying to argue serious question. Look up these verses meditate on them with all humility try to understand that you may gain wisdom. Isaiah 9:6. Isaiah 52:6.
Isaiah 52:10. John 1:1-2. 1 Peter 1:2. Titus 2:13. And many more. But please read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and Pray ask the Holy Spirit (third Person of the Trinity) to Guide you. God bless you.
Where is the word trinity in Scripture? The first 100 years of the Christian Era?
If you haven’t already, can you do a video on second John verse nine? That would be awesome. I am a young minister who has been preaching since the age of 12. I have been ordained through the church of God, Cleveland, Tennessee, but saw the truth of baptism in Jesus name and about nine months ago, I officially took on his name and I’m thankful for it. I have not been treated mean like I thought I would be among the apostolic. They actually have been very open toward me and seem to find it really interesting that I had a ministry background, and saw the truth in this area. I have already done a couple of teachings on it on Facebook and gave my testimony in the house meeting. So on the baptism in Jesus name issue, I definitely am sold out that it is biblical and that’s how I baptize, but just when I think I am officially, in the one this camp and out of the closet, lol, certain versus still get me every once in a while, even though I believe that Jesus is fully God, and fully man and God manifested in the flash. What about two John: nine. Also, please forgive the typos as I have no vision and I’m dictating this to Siri but I trust you will get the gist of it.
Hello! In the One Person of Christ is both the Father and the Son, Deity and Sinless Humanity.
I've never heard a oneness Pentecostal correctly explain John 16:13. Most, if not all when I've asked them, have either ignored it or completely butchered the verse.
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for *He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak;* and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. John 16:13-14
This verse teaches that Jesus will speak to the Holy Spirit and command Him what to say showing Jesus is distinct from the Holy Spirit. This also teaches a conversation taking place and shows the distinct personhood of the Holy Spirit because He is hearing from the Son and then speaking those words to the disciples. This verse alone causes serious issues for oneness doctrine.
I’m getting there in my trinitarian series. I did write an article on it years ago.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I'd love to hear you take on it if you have a moment. Thanks.
As a Trinity believer I also believe in oneness. God is one God, made distinct in 3 persons who externally existed from the beginning. The father eternally begot the Son and the Spirit is eternally sent forth from the Father and the Son.
One God, YHWH.
Where do we find in scripture where anyone believed or taught a trinity doctrine, one God in three persons🤔
Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all mentioned with different roles in the new testament.@@leahjames6870
Isaiah 48:16
Dr. Kay supposes that "one Divine Personage is here sent by another" - the Second Person of the Holy Trinity by the First and by the Third; but *it is against the analogy of faith that the Third Person should send the Second*
The Pulpit Commentary
(Isaiah 48:16) To deny or misunderstand the Trinity is to deny or misunderstand the verry nature of God himself Isaiah 43:10; 44:6-8; Zechariah 12: 1-10. If you don’t get that your in denial
Nope. Never mentioned in Scripture. Jesus said the 1st of all the commandments was Oneness.
St Bernadette Soubirous. At Lourdes, in 1858 the Virgin Mary appears to St. Bernadette she said to Bernadette "I am the Immaculate Conception" (that meant born without sin).
How do you know it was her? Galatians 1:7-9
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Mary is the most prayer warrior, here prayers are always answered, Genesis 3:15 “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy offspring and her offspring. Her offspring is Jesus, every Christian agrees with this, well if the offspring is Jesus then the woman is Mary it’s that simple, notice’ it is the woman Mary who has the enemy relationship with Satan not Jesus this doesn’t make her moor powerful then Jesus quite the opposite but here prayers are powerful you must love here
Someone quoted me the following version of Acts 7:56, you know, about what Stephen saw when he was stoned to death.
Acts 7:56 “and he said: “Look! I see the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God’s right hand.”
He or she reads it as there actually being two persons. He/she asserts "THERE IS THE SON OF MAN WITH ANOTHER. WHO IS THAT OTHER?...THATS TWO PERSONS SIDE BY SIDE." Then demands to know how many I see.
Well, Scripture doesn't say "there is the Son of man with another" nor "that's two persons side by side"---that's an example of adding to scripture.
I still see it as ONE because God has already established that there is no God besides Him.
P.S. I also truly believe that Jesus is the Angel of the Lord who told Joseph to name the baby Jesus.
Matthew 1:20-21
1599 Geneva Bible
20 But while he thought these things, behold,➡ the Angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, the son of David, fear not to [a]take Mary thy [b]wife: for that which is [c]conceived in her, is of the holy Ghost.
21 And she shall bring [d]forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall [e]save his people from their sins.
Second temple Judaism had a notion that there were distinct persons or rather “the two powers in heaven “ they identified the angel of the lord as a distinct person
A few did
Honestly, I don't see what all the confusion about verses like
ISAIAH 48:16, is about? All you have to do is Read the first 15
verses to begin understanding the Context. For those first 15
Verses----It's simply GOD Himself Speaking. But verse 16 makes
a Prophetic "Shift."
GOD is Saying, "I AM THERE."
Where?
HE will Be there when the time of Jesus' Ministry arrives.
"And now the Soveriegn LORD has Sent me.."
This is a Prophetic revelation of the very things Jesus is going
to Declare during those last 3 years of his Life!
The first 15 verses leave No doubt. It starts out with YAHWEH
Speaking of the Things HE had done for the Israelites.
There are Many such Prophetic "Over-Shadowings," of Future
Events. The Old Testament is Full of Prophetic Language!
One must pay Careful attention to the Context of the Language.
In Other words----The Last few words of verse 16, is a Prophecy
of the Words that come from the very Mouth of Christ...In the
Distant Future.
Otherwise you have GOD and Christ Co--Existing in the Old
Testament times, which makes NO sense at All!
If that were so---Then Why did he not Announce himself as
Savior? And if Christ was actually THERE....WITH his FATHER;
Which one is the, "ONE TRUE GOD?"
There are Many complications if you think Jesus was Literally
There, back then WITH the FATHER!
Amen!
“Grace, mercy and peace will be with us, from God the Father and from Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love” (2 John 1:3).
Amen! No trinity mentioned! Only 2 mentioned. Visible and invisible.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa that maybe so but it discredits your belief of Jesus
@@ranospiteri5776 Not in the least.
If God ever says he loves who was he loving before the creation, If God ever says he speaks who was he speaking to before the creation, think, about it
Already have. Answered you elsewhere.
Proof Jesus Christ is Devine 1 Corinthians 15
Yes He is!
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa if Jesus Chriest was with God and his name was word in John's gospel how is he created
I thought about this a lot, whose will was Jesus seeking to do? whose word was Jesus speaking? and who was Jesus praying to in the garden at Gethsemane? after Peter cut the guard's ear off what did Jesus tell him? When Joseph and Mary accidentally left Jesus when they went back to retrieve him what did Jesus tell them? Whose business was he about? What they say to clear that up is the Catholic Church corrupted the word well if that's so, if one part of the word is corrupted then all of it is , if you cannot believe just one part of scripture then you can't believe any of it!
Does anyone see Father Son and Holy Ghost in those scriptures? Let all face it One God One Faith and One Baptism in the Holy Ghost!
If faith alone is inspired by the Holy Spirit it should be in the Bible
Romans 3-8, and the entire Book of Galatians.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I can't see faith alone anywhere in Romans or Galatians
@@ranospiteri5776 Galatians is all about adding circumcision to the Gospel, which make it no longer the Gospel.
People don't understand that that Jesus is the WORD of God the Father spoken into flesh! And the Word WAS God. WAS God! As in He is obviously still omniscient and omnipresent, but as a man He allowed Himself to be humbled and experience limitations. The Word DOES NOT stop being the WORD!
John 17:5 KJV - And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Isaiah 48:16 KJV - Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
THE WORD is the answer! The LORD GOD, the Father, and His Spirit, sent the WORD to become flesh and manifest as the Son of God. Super simple. Trinitarians cant handle scripture!
Of course 1 Jn 5:7 means ONE in agreement: that is what "three that bear record" MEANS....1 in agreement!
And a direct parallel in verse 8. Right?
your dreaming read the two wetness's the father bears wetness to the Sun the Sun bears wetness to the Father
Both positions are right. God is ONE God, yet revealed in three persons. I am one person yet I am a spirit, soul and body. All three in one person. I am also a father, a son, and a husband. All at the same time. And different people in my life relate differently to me based upon which of these three I am to them. The important thing is Jesus is Lord! The gospel message of redemption through His atoning work.
Actually you are body and spirit. It's the union of the two that becomes soul. God created Adam (Body) and breathed into him the breath of life (Spirit) and he became a living Soul. Gen 2:7
Terence I Thessalonians 5:23, And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and your whole spirit, and soul, and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
You are father, son and husband that has one name. Father, Son, & Holy Ghost has one Name. What's their one name?
How can both positions be right when both dont agree with each other...Trinitarians believe Jesus is not the Father and Oneness believe he is...how can both views be the same?
And so it goes. People will ALWAYS find a reason to be at odds with each other. Even when the salvation of humanity is at stake. Straining at nats while swallowing a camel. Yet Jesus died and rose again to save us. Oh how great the love of God.
God was speaking prophetically and not literally as though multiple persons are speaking or sending. The prophetic word of God spoken in the OT then becomes fulfilled as Christ himself says and others say in the NT
Thank you so very much for your explanation of the oneness theology, I completely agree with the teaching... however how would you explain Matthew 12:31-32
I actually have videos on this. It explains the difference of the Humanity of Jesus and the Deity of Jesus perfectly.
It was Elizabeth who first called Mary the mother of God in Luke 1:43 “And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?”. When in Luke 1: Lord is munched 17 times and all referring to God.
So....
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa so your teaching Islam
@@ranospiteri5776 Haha! They certainly don’t teach the Divinity of Jesus Christ.
The Bible says that God is one, and some people wrongly take this to mean that He is one person. To believe this one would have to say for all eternity before God created the world or anything in it, that He was turned into Himself in love. Since there was nothing else to love back then besides Himself. And because He is love. Since God is perfect, that would mean that self-love was the greatest good back then. Since God can’t improve His character, that would mean that self-love would still be the greatest good. Even after God created us in His own image. And that would mean that selfishness is what we all ought to aim for. But the trinity changes all of that… 1 John 4:8
Funny how He’s refereed to thousands of times as He, Him, the language of a singular Person.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa John 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. (did you get that). Hmm… *it says in, 1 John 1:9 he has both the Father and the Son. *Again in John 14:23 Jesus and the Father will come unto him. *Again in Matthew 17:5 Jesus is not a ventriloquists
The whole “the word Trinity isn’t found in scripture” is a very feeble argument at most because scripture doesn’t use the words omniscient, omnipotent, or omnibenevolent, and yet we consider them sound and vital doctrine. Even “original sin” isn’t found. So that argument has very little substance in my opinion
It does use omnipotent. And I’ve gone over ad naseum that’s it’s not just trinity, but the many concomitant words also.
And everytime the Bible is set up to use 3 or trinity to describe God, it defaults to One.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I haven’t seen the word omnipotent. You’d have to cite the verse for me. Several references in scripture like Genesis 21 and 22 refer to separate persons i.e. YHWH and the Angel of YHWH. And there are other OT verses the distinguish the two.
And I just disagree with this last statement. We see references to begetting and proceeding, but not all of them being different forms of one Unitarian God. I hope I captured your views accurately. If not, please do correct me
@@sidtom2741 Revelation 19:6.
There is only 1 Jehovah. Even trinitarians overwhelmingly believe that. Belief in more than one Jehovah is polytheism, on that oneness and trinitarians agree.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa the KJV version says omnipotent, but almighty is far more accurate.
Exactly, there is only one Jehovah. And I’m glad that a non-trinitarian actually understands or maintains a responsible interpretation of the trinity
jesus quoted the shema,.....Not Trinity,....mk,12:29
Right!
They must be different considering that the Father sent the Son (Matt. 10:40; John 5:23; 6:38-39; 8:42; 12:44-45, 49; 13:20). The Son did not send the Father. Jesus came from the Father (John 6:38; 17:1-5); the Father did not come from Jesus. The Father and the Son manifest at the same time (Isaiah 9:6; Matt. 3:17; 11:25, 27; 16:17; 24:36; Mark 13:32; 2 Pet. 1:17). They were in different locations at the same time (Matt. 3:17; 16:17; 2 Pet. 1:17), have separate thrones, (Rev. 3:21), separate wills (Luke 22:42), and Jesus is now presently at the right hand of God the Father (Acts 7:56; Heb. 1:3; 1 Thess. 1:3)
"Father why have you forsaken me"
I’ve done multiple videos explaining that. Humanity and Deity.
Am having trouble with this "oneness teaching" because the word one in scripture does not always mean singular. God is one being but three persons, in that isaiah passage it say "and now the LORD GOD and HIS SPIRIT has sent ME" not "the LORD GOD SPIRIT has sent ME". There's a distinction between the LORD GOD and HIS SPIRIT hence the word 'and' differentiating between the two.
An exciting passage in Daniel 7
“I was watching in the night visions, And behold, One like the Son of Man, Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him near before Him.
Daniel 7:13 NKJV
This is one of the verses in the bible that indicates there's a difference between the Father (Ancient of days) and the Son of man (Jesus).
Keep reading in Daniel 7. It explains what is talking about.
There can't be a good church because Jesus says only God is good, but in the next book he says I am the good Shepherd
God is in the Church.
Beware of false prophets
Amen!
The TRINITY, in the Old Testament
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ." 1Th 5/23
Gen 11:5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Isa 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
Isa 6:2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
Isa 6:3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
The TRINITY, in the New Testament
Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
We have the same in Mar 1/10-11
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
The name of the Father of our Lord
Jesus refers to the Father 64 times in the gospes and the book of Revelation.
One of the first time we read "My Father" in the gospels is. . . .
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mar 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Luk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
Joh 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
The name of the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit
Jesus refers to the Holy Ghost/Spirit 22 (10 and 12) times in the gospels and the book of Revelation.
One of the first times we read of the Holy Ghost is. . . .
Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
What about The Son, how many times do we find The Son?
IN the gospels and the book of Revelation, we find The Son 144 times
Mat 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Mar 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Joh 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
The TRINITY of God, these three are ONE!
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
What about the last time we find The Father, The Son, and The Spirit, in the Word of god!
Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Rev 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
He that denieth the father and the Son, as to the fact that for there to be a Son there must be a Father, and for God to be the Father, there must be a Son, and to deni this fact is to be an antichrist. No one can be saved that believes oneness!
God is father in creation he is son in redemption he is holy Spirit forevermore. Someone tries telling me that God's not in heaven alone give Bible for the other two
Revelation 4-5.
1 John 5:7 lol genesis 1, Hebrews 1 John 1 dude come on now this is too easy
Where in Bible is this taught? Martin?
"And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form." John 5:37
Fathers form as a dove at Jesus baptism
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Aren't they looking at "the Father's" form and hearing "the Father's" voice in John 5:37?
Also, who is "the Father" hearing from in John 16:13?
Yes!@@waltercoleman624
I’ve got an entire video series on answering trinitarians toughest questions.@@waltercoleman624
I encourage you brothers that believe in the oneness of God to study if you haven't already the doctrines of The incarnation , the eternal Subordination , the eternal generation, Dyothelitism, the hypostatic union. Which are to do with the 2 natures/wills (1. the flesh/son/man, and 2. the holy spirit/Father/God) of God in Christ, and the eternal nature of the son(note which is the father/holy spirit) and the incarnation of the one true God(the father) in Christ(the son). I hope you find it interesting even if the trinitarians like to label them as their own doctrines, the concepts can be seen by a oneness perspective if you believe God the father was manifest in the flesh of the Son.
I don't see an eternal Son anywhere in scripture. John 1:14. Luke 2. Jesus was born of Mary in Time. The eternal spirit of God came in flesh and dwelt among us in a human body as a person in Time.
@@cathysnedegar6711 “The eternal spirit of God came in flesh and dwelt among us in a human body as a person in Time”. Where is this stated in scripture🌿
Eph. 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. James 2:14,26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Yes! Amen!
The Lord God and his Spirit sent Isaiah. Isaiah chapter 6:1-8.
Amen!
Proverbs 30:4 Jesus is his name.
1 Corinthians 1:24 “But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the “wisdom” of God.” The question is who is the other agent with God In Proverbs 8:22-31. It’s the Son
2 attributes of the One True God. 1 Corinthians 1:30
1 john 5:7 is believed to not actually be written in the greek manuscripts of the new testament
I’ve done a few videos you may want to watch on that.
Blessed are the hungry who searches for the hidden manna. Sadly a Truth hidden from the world. After my heart shouted "The Father is The Son" for years was i drawn to His Word below. A joy i want to share with you. What is faith? Thus has the Lord spoken to the generation of His wrath:
"Faith is believing I AM WHO I AM, and that I am able to perform it. Faith can by no means be attained, nor can one grab hold of it by human means.
For there are works done without faith, which are dead; and a faith which has works, which is also dead. Yet your faith came by My works, which enabled you to believe I AM WHO I AM. And all good works, which come forth from you, are My works also.
Therefore if one is to be healed in accordance with My will, that same one must surrender to Me and My will, making no effort to increase their faith by human power as a means to a desired end.
Rather they acquiesce...
Knowing that all things will be done
In their proper time and season,
According to the love
Of their Father in Heaven...
Doubting nothing...
Says The Lord."
And He, the Holy I AM came down to us i the flesh so we may know, YAHUWAH caused to be YAHUSHUA, the perfect sacrifice. For He said "Let there be a Lamb without spot or blemish, sacrificed for the atonement of sin,” and so it was. A blameless sacrifice, no man was found blameless, not one. Thus it had to be God Himself, out of great love. Consider the love of The Father brothers and sisters, for since the beginning He knew you and your salvation was assured. Behold, thus says the Lord:
"Behold My hands and My feet,
And consider My love...
For the scars of My passion remain,
A holy, everlasting covenant,
Written in the blood of The Lamb...
Taste and see, beloved, drink!
Until that which is veiled is veiled no longer,
Until the void within your heart is filled...
For My love was written in every stripe I endured for you,
Poured out in every drop of blood I shed for you,
Revealed when you pierced My hands and My feet...
Beloved, I am married unto you!...
A union sealed forever in the blood we share...
Says The Lord YahuShua."
Says He whose name is YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH, amen! Sealed forever, for all sons and daughters given to The Father, The Son shall not lose any of them. You've searched in the Scriptures of Truth, yet remained hungry. Dont be surprised, for a warning was given and remains so to this day (deutenoromy 4:2). Freely i received, freely i give you His plain Answer. Eat, drink and receive peace. For the Lord has revealed:
"The Lord is eternal; HE IS! He never ends! His love, His mercy, His justice, His majesty, His glory, His sorrow, all that He is endures forever! Likewise His creation has no end, no boundaries! There are no limits to contain it, for it is as He is!... HE IS THE CREATOR!... Everlasting, eternal, The Alpha and Omega, The Beginning and The End, The First and The Last by whom all things exist and have their being, through whom all living things have life!
Kiss The Son, therefore! Bow down heavily and give Him glory! Let the knowledge of who He is fill your heart with wonder and awe, with great reverence and worship! Give Him thanks and praise! For Holy is The Lord God Almighty, His ways past finding out! For who can understand the knowledge of The Lord contained within creation, or know the depths of His wisdom?! Yet His Glory surrounds us on every side, testifying to His majesty beyond question! Indeed, we are without excuse!
Behold, even the whole of creation shouts,
“YAHUSHUA is YAHUWAH!”
For it is He by whom all things consist,
It is He who causes to be...
For The Lord our God is One!"
Amen! Let the Truth fill your heart with wonder and awe. Heed this trumpet call, for the Volumes of Truth are a testament of His sacrifice and love put forth again. Also a trumpet of alarm of war and recompense. Hear what the Word of the Lord spoken to this generation says of the path made straight again:
"Behold, My words shall never pass away, for as I am so also is My Word. For it proceeds from Me, being manifest by He Who Is True, also being called The Word... Living... Always feeding His flock the Word which is written for their nourishment, which is to be received through that part of Himself which is also in Me, The Spirit called Holy, which speaks to the truth of who I am, glorifying Him who I sent to you who bears My name and reveals My glory in Himself, even as I am glorified through Him, His glory being the same I own. For We are One from the beginning, yet manifest as two in the earth, so those whom I have chosen may know Me and come to Me and receive life. For I am The Lord, and I do not change."
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"Yet that which I speak at present must be put first. Thus that which is contained in the Volumes of Truth is foremost, and must be brought to the forefront for all to behold. Not that this Word is at all superior; neither shall it be considered inferior to My Word found in the Scriptures of Truth. For My Word is My Word; all I speak is Scripture and Truth. And that which I speak in the hearing of My prophets is written and put forth for the generation in which it is to be received, foremost, whether they will hear or whether they will forbear.
And as it was in all times past, when I spoke by My servants, the prophets, and they in turn both wrote and spoke My words aloud, saying, “Thus says The Lord,” so it is at this time also, even during the end of this age which is upon you.
Again, I say to you, that which proceeds from My mouth at present is foremost, and shall not be put second to My Word spoken aforetime. Neither is one a foundation for the other, as though the Word proceeding from My own mouth is in need of anything to uphold it; nor is any other witness required to prove My Word as My own, when I Myself have spoken it... MY WORD STANDS! Therefore, let My present Word be shown to be in full agreement with My former Word. For it is indeed in perfect agreement with My Word as it was, yet runs straight in comparison with that which men have made crooked.
Here is wisdom few have considered, nor have they understood: If one who confesses Me lacks discernment, on account of ears which remain dull of hearing and eyes which remain dim in seeing, let them test My Word by My Word only. For any who test outside My Word, according to the words or doctrines of men, shall fail and be found in contempt before The Lord. For I alone sit as judge. Indeed, they have failed to see that My Word in the Volumes of Truth, also being called the Letters, is the rod by which the translations of men are to be tested, a light which shines upon the doctrines of men to expose them, revealing them to be blasphemies and heresies before God, all of which shall burn up in the Day, when the fire comes to test the quality of each man’s work.
Therefore, if one professing faith be wise,
He shall humble himself before Me,
Calling upon the name of The Holy One
For knowledge, in where all understanding
Flows to the truly contrite and penitent,
Flowing in pure testimony, free from corruption...
And by this only shall one be wise in the reading,
Comparing that which was given with that
Which is put forth once again, discerning
The Source and The Author to be the same...
One Word, One Book,
One on-going Testament to My glory;
By no means shall it be divided into three!...
Says The Lord."
*Isa **48:16*
Come near to me and listen to this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it happened, I was there. *And now the Lord God has sent His Spirit in and with me*
Amplified Bible
(Praying for the dead Bible verse)***** Maccabees 12:46 It is, therefore, a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.
Maccabees is not inspired
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I'm so sorry for you, 7 books were removed from the Bible 200 years ago
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa it inspired me
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Does something have to be explicitly stated in scripture for us to hold it as an authentically revealed truth? (in a word NO).
@@ranospiteri5776 In your opinion. By that standard you hold, all types of strange doctrines could be accepted.
Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Is Jesus telling the truth!
Absolutely! The Name is Jesus!
Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.
A. The Lord (ʼĂdônây "Master" - Title of God. First letter capitalized rest of the letters lower case)
B, And his Spirit (Luke 10:21 - The Spirit of your Father. God is a Spirit John 4:24)
C. Sent Me. (The flesh born of the woman made under the law - Galatians 4:4)
But it's the SAME GOD with DIVERSITIES OF OPERATIONS (1 Corinthians 12:6)
SAME GOD operating as the Father in Creation - Malachi 2:10
SAME GOD operating as the Word in Revelation - Deuteronomy 29:29
SAME GOD operating as the Son in Propitiation - 1 John 4:10
SAME GOD operating as the Holy Ghost in Power - Romans 15:13
Diversities in Operation no where written God in three persons.
D. The LORD (יְהֹוָה "iᵉhôvâh "Jehovah'" - The Name of God in the Law - Exodus 6:3)
E. I am the (Jehovah) LORD thy God.
The SAME GOD all in all. Father, Son, Holy Ghost.
How do we know?
Because of the testimony in Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Colossians 2:9 (KJV)
You hear that?
That's The Sound of The MIC dropping.
Who's Next?
Amen!
Oneness pentecostals and Trinitiarians both believe a man is God.
It’s nuanced.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa the problem is people don't believe Jesus Christ is the son of God, they think that he is God.
David Bernard says if baptized in true faith and repentance you do not need to be rebaptised.
I think he means if you were originally baptized in Jesus Name.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I was. AND IN NAME OF FATHER SON AND HO,Y SPIRIT. MINISTER SAID "IN JESUS NAME I BAPTISE YOU IN THE NAME OF FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT." THEN THE 2 MINISTERS LAID HANDS ON ME TO RECEIVE HOLY SPIRIT. AND I FELT A DISCERNIBLE PRESENCE. NOW I KNOW IT WAS JESUS OR SPIRIT IN ACTION. MUCH LATER I SPOKE IN TONGUES. DO YOU THINK THIS IS A VALID BAPTISM? It WAS IN 1970.
Do Oneness Pentecostal believe Jesus is God?
Yes
Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father - right?
Right!
Thanks for sharing your view, we purchased a book you reviewed a few weeks ago, Is Jesus in the Godhead or Is the Godhead in Jesus? By Gordon Magee , wish I had of had this 30 years ago, it is EXCELLENT, I recommend it to all my "Trinity" brothers. I began seeing the DUAL NON mixed natures of Christ very soon after being Born Again, but my 3 in 1 kept throwing me, what opened my eyes was HOW Paul addressed the GodHEAD singular, and how the Epistles began their introductions, I ran the creation dates of the Pauline Epistles vs 1 John 5:7 and realized Paul could of NEVER used that verse ( if had of been in the original text ) because the book had not yet been written. When Jesus said God IS spirit, and then latter the scriptures state The Lord is Spirit, along with the Spirit, Soul & Body of Christ being dissected by scripture I began to see WHAT was going on, the Roman Catholics basically turned Jesus or the Godhead into a scrambled egg with the teaching, doing so you CANNOT see the proper WORKING perspective between Christ the Man & His Father, and if you WEAKEN the humanity of Christ so ALL you see is Deity then you can create a NEW FALSE mediator on earth. The typical cop out of a typical Trinity thinking person is well "If I could explain God then He wouldn't be much of a God" LOL. I have found by study that there is PLENTY about Our God & Saviour that we CAN understand if we just allow the Spirit to reveal Himself to us. I now consider myself a Oneness Trinity Baptist LOL
Amen!
The catholic church , which is the church founded by Jesus, got it right. God is triune. God is 3 persons. God is so complex that oneness pentecostals try to impose their presuppositions into the Scriptures. Why did the Early Church , all of whom read and spoke Greek, interpret the Bible as Trinitarian? Why would Jesus fail to hold his promise that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church (Matthew 16:18-19)? Does the Bible lie when it says the Church is base and column of truth (1 Timothy 3:15)? Why did Jesus give authority to the Church to settle disputes if the Church can just lie to us (Matthew 18:15-17)? Why did Paul, an Apostle of God almighty , go TO THE CHURCH to settle the circumcision dispute (Acts 15)? God is triune. Literally no verse refutes the Trinity or proves Oneness.
(Isaiah 48:16) To deny or misunderstand the Trinity is to deny or misunderstand the verry nature of God himself Isaiah 43:10; 44:6-8; Zechariah 12: 1-10. If you don’t get that your in denial
how is it that Jesus saw Satan fall from heaven. Luke 10:18
1 John 4:9 “In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.”
As the Father sent Jesus, so Jesus sent His Apostles, John 17. The Apostles were not pre-existent.
Luke 1:48 for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
Yes, because she bore Messiah. What does that have to do with praying to her?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa she is the Queen of heaven Rev 12:1
Luke 16:27 Then he said, I (**pray**) thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
Bible says that there will be many false teachers, and there just wolves in sheep's clothing. They farther says I am doing everything in Isaiah
I agree with the first sentence. I don’t understand the second.
I find it strange that what the Jews believed about God is used as an argument for oneness. These are the same people who reject Jesus as THE Messiah. Are we to give that credence as well?
John 4:22-24. Jesus said the Jews had a correct view of God.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa NOT sure of your point with
John 4:22-24 King James Version
22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
4 Lts pointing north. Lol. I think you know what I am saying.
Just because the Jews rejected Jesus does it mean they dont know who God is...the bible says even the demons know who God is, "Thou believest that there is one God, thou doest well, the devils also believe and tremble."
How about the very first christian jews who accepted Jesus as the messiah? They shared the same belief that God is one, as those Jews who rejected Jesus as the messiah.
I look at it like this I believe what the Holy Bible says about the Lord Jesus and I put in hours of study for years I believe JESUS is Yahweh the only Almighty God is he the son of God yes in my reading the Holy Spirit put this on my mind "when you look at God you see Jesus when you look at Jesus you see God " I have peace that God took on flesh and Died on the cross for me my allegiance is to Yahweh Jesus Christ he is my Lord and my God . Hear o Israel Yahweh is our God Yahweh is One Jesus said you see me you see the father he calls himself the first and the last and the Almighty God that's enough for me the I AM
It's a correlation of things to come. Things that needed to be said to further our understanding.
John 18:20
King James Version
20 Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.
God testified, the word testified and the spirit testify about Jesus.
1 John 5:7
King James Version
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
If JESUS is THE FATHER and THE HOLY SPIRIT
why did HE return back to HEAVEN to HIMSELF and sit on the right hand of HIMSELF and send HIMSELF THE COMFORTER back to us but say HE'S coming again?
Is HE coming in the clouds or is HE with us but not really because HE'S gonna forsake us so we can see HIM return? and if so is HE lying because HE said THE COMFORTER will never leave us?
So when the FATHER sent THE SON it was JESUS sending HIMSELF but THE SON didn't send THE FATHER because scriptures say The FATHER sent THE SON?
So HE prayed to HIMSELF,talks to HIMSELF and lies and confuses us although THE BIBLE says different?
So JESUS looked to HEAVEN and called on HIMSELF and turned HIS back on HIMSELF but HE was on THE Cross?
So oneness teaches GOD is the author of confusion .
The Son is the incarnation of God, God coming in Flesh. He did much of the other you said.
Hear o Israel the Lord your God is ONE lord
My God, my God, why hast "thou" forsaken me......................Was Jesus trying to fool everyone ? Jesus is not a liar!
I and my Father are one. John 10 30 KJV
I’ve done a video on that. God bless!
Who has a problem with that? Oneness doesn't. What about the rest of the Bible? Don't you think we should considder it all?
@@brucedressel4523 One WHAT though?
@@OurHumbleLife What is so hard to understand ??
Good morning. I hope this finds you well. I have spoken with you before but this video was the one that I listened to. Again John 14:28 speaks against your position. Can you please explain it to me without changing the words of scripture or jumping to theological conclusions. Please stay in the verse. Thank you.
I’ve got a video or 2 on that. I don’t do the things you say. Father/Son language, easy. It seems I answer this question constantly. Yet it is 100% Oneness.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa the problem for the oneness side is that you assume what the text says and means. But the text does not say that. The text says Jesus is speaking and talking about the Father. Oneness theology says that Jesus is the Father. That is an ontological statement of being.
The issue is this and if you can explain your position that would be great… in this verse if Jesus is the Father then the verse is nonsense. The Father is not greater than the Father. If this Jesus is not the Father then this Jesus is not God and therefore there are two named Jesus, one God and one man that speak and have relationship with one another. If you say that you don’t please explain. Thank you for your time.
Jesus is both Father and Son. That is where your analysis breaks down. Also, please see my video on why I don’t debate in the comment section. I’ve explained this verse ad naseum on video. It is a primary Oneness verse.
Ps Trinitarians assume what Scripture is saying. If not, there would be no trinity.@@revbray
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa hello my friend. I am aware that Jesus is both Father and Son to you. That won’t help your case. When Jesus speaks as the Son is he still the Father? If you say no then you have two named Jesus that can talk to one another and relate to one another. If you say yes he is still the Father then the Father says he is greater than himself and that is nonsense. If you do not want to continue this conversation please point me to who can. I have have been asking oneness believers this question for over twenty years and I have never received an answer.
I have watched many of your videos and have not heard you address this verse. Please leave some links to videos where you speak on this verse. I will gladly listen to them. I am not asking for debate but an explanation to this text from a oneness view that is consistent with both scripture and oneness theology. Thank you.
Let me try to make a video. As you know, I don’t do discussions in the comment section, and have a video explaining why. This sounds like an old Bob Ross argument your presenting. @@revbray
The trinity was man made and was created in the span of 600 years. To believe in it, is to believe in false doctrine or a false Christ. 1 Timothy 3:16, “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” Who came in the flesh? Christ did. who was preached unto the Gentiles? Christ was. Who was received up into glory? Christ was. This starts off with, “and without controversy” this means without disagreement or without argument. Then it makes a bold statement, “God was..” it doesn’t say the second in the Godhead, or the Son God. It says “God.” Isaiah 9:6, “ “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” This scripture is the prophecy of Christ. The scriptures calls him the “everlasting Father.” Who’s the everlasting Father? According to Isaiah’s prophecy, Christ is, not “Father God.” Remember the Pharisees crucified Jesus for making himself God and making himself equal to God. You cannot deny these scriptures. Also, Jesus in the book of Revelation refers to himself as Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. Alpha is the first letter in the Greek alphabet and Omega is the last letter in the Greek alphabet. In Isaiah the Lord refers to himself as the first and the last. He also says there is no god before him neither will there be one after him. Besides him there is no savior. It also says there is only one who sits on the throne in heaven. In Isaiah 6, Isaiah sees the Lord sitting on the throne, and in Revelation 4, John sees Christ sitting on the throne. So if God said there isn’t any gods besides him before or after and that besides Him, there is no savior (Isaiah 44:6, Isaiah 43:11) both God and Christ are saying they are the first and the last and they are both are on the throne but John only sees one on the throne. And before both the angels are crying “Holy Holy Holy, Is the Lord God Almighty (Lord of host)” (Isaiah 6:3, Revelation 4:8). How can both scriptures be true. They are contradicting each other. The only way for the scriptures to agree is if Christ, God manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16), the image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15), the everlasting Father (Isaiah 9:6), is the one true God. Believing in the trinity contradicts these scriptures. To believe in one God agrees with what Israel’s believed in since Abraham. To believe in the trinity agrees with what pagans believed since ancient times. Also, remember who Jacob wrestled with. An man, angel, or God?
Trinity was actually around much longer. The trinity belief is the birth of paganism. That's how far back it goes. ruclips.net/video/JOPdI7FUoFI/видео.html
Its not difficult at all it was isaiah speaking of himself. You should study it
I have studied it for several years.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa oh ok. Can you explain this pastor. Water Baptism STUDY -- ;
BRITANNICA ENCYCLOPEDIA
11TH edition, Vol 3, Pg 365-366
The baptismal formula was changed from the name of JESUS CHRIST to the words Father, Son, & Holy Ghost by the Catholic Church in the second century.
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BRITANNICA ENCYCLOPEDIA
Vol 3, Pg 82
Everywhere in the oldest sources it states that baptism took place in the name of Jesus Christ.
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CANNEY ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION
Pg 53
The early church always baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until development of Trinity doctrine in the 2nd century.
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CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA
Vol 2, Pg 263
Here the Catholics acknowledged that baptism was changed by the Catholic Church.
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HASTINGS ENCYCLOPEDIA
OF RELIGION
Vol 2, Pg 377
Christian baptism was administered using the words “In the name of Jesus”.
Vol 2, Pg 378
The use of a Trinitarian formula of any sort was not suggested in early Church history.
Vol 2, Pg 389
Baptism was always in the name of Lord Jesus until the time of Justin Martyr when Triune formula was used.
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CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA
Vol 8
Justin Martyr was one of the early Fathers of the Roman Catholic Church.
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HASTINGS ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION
Vol 2, Pg 377 on ACTS 2:38
NAME was an ancient synonym for “person”. Payment was always made in the name of some person referring ownership. Therefore one being baptized in Jesus Name became his personal property. “Ye are Christ’s.
The Jews also missed the coming of the Messiah in their own scriptures, so it really doesn't hold much weight that they missed the Trinity also.
That had nothing to do with that, that had to do with them missing the prophecy
That’s the best you’ve got? OK let’s start with the fact that this doesn’t help the doctrine of the trinity either because in the preceding verses, and after God refers to himself in singular pronouns. Let’s now talk about the context of the chapter and point out that none of the verses are prophecies about the Messiah but rather how God will overthrow the Chaldeans. Also, reading the whole chapter, we see that God refers to himself as the first and the last, and so does Jesus in revelation so this is God, the Father talking why is Jesus saying this if he’s God, the Son? Next, we know in the Bible that any time the Spirit of God is mentioned, it precedes with a demonstration of his power and because of the context of this verse, that’s not surprising it says “his spirit has sent me”. Lastly, literally read the next verse it says “thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel. According to Trinitarian’s, God the Son is the redeemer, but the verse is clearly talking about God, the Father, so which is it?
I’m Oneness. Good job. A whole slew of our best and brightest have struggled w this Verse. Just making sure people have an answer.
1 Timothy 4:1 “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;” that's you got it Hmm!
No, I’m in the truth my friend. All the evidence points that way. God bless you!
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa And yet you cannot explain John 8:17-18 without insisting that Jesus was lying. You are a Pharisee. Anathema! Repent!
@@newenglandsun4394 Yes I can. I’ve explained it repeatedly on the channel and elsewhere. I’ll never repent for having a correct view about God. God bless you!
@@newenglandsun4394 that scripture doesn’t prove a trinity either.🤔
@@revamp6612 It proves there are two.
Yeah right! Jesus said He will send another parakleet, the Spirit of truth from the Father. That's three in One.
Interesting how you mention omnipresence, a name given to a characteristic of God seen throughout the Bible, that isn’t explicitly said in the Bible, then use “the Trinity isn’t mentioned in the Bible” as an argument. Please, oneness Pentecostals... find a different argument.
It not just trinity, it’s:
triune
seperate, co-equal, co-eternal
3 hypostasis
3 persons
1st person
2nd person
3 rd person
eternal generation
eternal begotten
circumibcision
interpenetration ie perichorisis
Basically the entire trinitarian lingo, not just the word trinity.
How does Jesus confess and deny people before the Father if he is the Father? (Matt. 10:32) Also, Jesus says, "Come ye blessed of my Father." but he is His Father? (Matt. 25:34)
Father/Son, Flesh Spirit. Easy.
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa So the flesh is the Son (& Father,) but the Spirit is only the Father? Doesn't that make 2 Fathers?
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Also, if the Son/Father Jesus Christ is just a flesh suit that didn't even exist until the incarnation and every time he (Jesus Christ the Son/Father) prayed to the Spirit/Father he was praying as a man to Spirit... 👇🏻
📖 John 17:5 (NKJV)
And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
How did the Spirit/Father share glory with the Son/Father BEFORE THE WORLD WAS if the Son is just a skin suit and didn't even exist until the incarnation?
How was He slain before the foundation of the world?
And God, by very definition, doesn’t need to pray.@@TravisWebb1998
No. God is only 1 Spirit.@@TravisWebb1998
that man is DEVINE: You see there is historical evidence that proves Jesus is and was a historical person, but that evidence goes further and shoes that not only was he a historical person, but Jesus indeed is God. Let’s look at the resin we can know that Jesus is divine, you see good men don’t accept worship, Matthew 14:33. John 9:38. Matthew 28:9. good men don’t forgave sins, Luke 7:48. Jesus claimed to be God. Good men don’t claim to be God. John 8:57-58 John 10:33. old Testament Prophecies said the Messiah would be God. Isaiah 9:6.
Jesus’ Followers worshiped him as God.
Right!
Can you explain 1 Cor. 15:22-28, but specifically verse 28?
I’ve done multiple videos on it
Curious. You haven’t mentioned John 17 where Jesus is submitting and praying to the Father. How do you reconcile Oneness with that?
I haven’t? Umm, you need to watch some more of the over 5,000 videos on the channel. It does get exasperating answering the same questions constantly.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I’m flooded with homework and new to the channel. Could you give me a short breakdown?
@@sidtom2741 I’ll try to answer with a video. But it may be a bit.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa This verse has often been used by atheists. The whole scene with Jesus praying in the garden saying “Hey God, it’s me....you.” As a trinitarian, this is a strawman. However to a oneness, it plays into it and seems all the more peculiar
@@sidtom2741 Not in the least.
Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
Jesus says only the Father knows the time for His 2nd coming, and He can't lie. So how can it be possible for God does not know what God knows? The only reason is because the Father is not the Son and has the authority to decide something that the Son needs to be informed about by the Father.
Brothers and sisters, the line is clear between the Son and the Father and the Holy Ghost, They are 3 diferent persons, with individual authorities, but all 3 are also One God.
The Bible says what it says, and the words of Jesus are eternal.
Certainly not co-equal.
But I’ve answered this in depth on multiple videos.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa So is it that you rather not call Them persons because they are still One God? I'm honestly trying to understand where oneness comes from, but I can't see past these verses where there's such a clear separation between the 3 ( fill in the blank ).
And why not co-equal? Who has the higher authority?
Again, I'm not trolling, I'm just trying to understand. Thanks
@@ByGraceThroughFaith777 It would be much better if you watched the dozens of videos I’ve done on the subject my friend. Much more effective than the comment section. Thanks.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa 👍
Do th signs of Mark 15:16-17 follow you if not you have no right to talk about GOD. Are you baptised in the HOLY SPIRIT with tongues as a vindicator ? IF NOT YOU HAVE NOTHING
Jesus is jehovah (yahweh) Isiah 43:11, John 14:7,9
Amen!
Jesus is not the FATHER!
God Bless!
The bible is one.
One in book many in page.
How many people do you know that are their own father or a son that fathered himself?
Do you call yourself your father or call yourself son when talking about yourself?
If Jesus is an example for you to fallow and he acts like his father is a different person from himself and always When's the first day of relationship why would you say the trinity is wrong? Muslims call God the greatest of deceivers, and they also deny the trinity
John 1:2 Jesus having fellowship with God. Verse 2 He was in the beginning with God. Now look at verse 15 where John the Baptist bore witness to it, he says, for He was before me.” Ps check out The Holy Spirit. Many holy spirits but one Spirit. Acts 2:3 “And there appeared unto them ****cloven*** tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.”
Is God 3 Holy Spirit’s or One.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa as if you do know, you know satin is rebellious to thank about that
@@ranospiteri5776 So you don’t know.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa know your Bible first before you teach blasphemy. Deut 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” the one in this verse is (Echad עִבְרִית) plural if God wanted to say an absolute one no other than one. he would have used (Yachid יָחִיד is single) one an absolute one no other than one.
if you read your Bible correctly you will find it reads. he was preferred before me: now getting back to the word who is Jesus there is no way Jesus was created if his name is word
God bless you
Isaiah 9:6 is about Hezekiah not Jesus, ignorance on display or deception
What is wrong with the oneness view of God? It is based on a misapplication of Colossians 2:9.
Nah
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa you can't handle the truth
@@ranospiteri5776 Haha! Love you. It is you who can’t handle it my friend.
Well I think If you a trinitarian , you’re furiously angry because is a can of worms has been opened up by this teaching, first of all we should read the scriptures and believe what it says, we have been argued and not trusting the word of God. I want to be fair and ask question that you may asked and was causing doubts. Why God allow the confusion in the scriptures? You asked yourself first, am I genuine and honest on my search for God or am I just follow a false religion? Let say in the scriptures God says he is ALONE and there is no one beside him. Then you say the word Elohim is plural. My understanding the word itself is not necessarily plural, but we cannot tell someone, there is someone with you if he says he is ALONE and there is no ONE beside him. And we must understand that called Abraham and his seed to reveal to us the truth and there was no confusion among them in their understanding of their Elohim is ONE and By himself and there was no one with him or beside him. So are we going to tell GOD that he been lied to us because we see many beside you? What in the world that we are telling him something is not true? Well either we crazies or know more than God. Stay with the word of God , because we believe he is ONE but we entangled ourselves with a human terminology to explain God and not of God word. I want to talk about why God said let US make man in our image after our likeness. We believe that God the FATHER created the SON GOD before everything created but how and when the HOLY GHOST GOD was FOUND? I don’t know what in the mind of people that brought this confusion to bring damnation to us, the spirit of God reveal to apostles, we will believe a lie and there will be false prophets and teachers will draw lots of people away from the faith. Let go on and declare that he is ALONE and HE is WORTHY to receive HONOUR and GLORY because HE has redeemed us with his OWN BLOOD, amen. Why do we want to divide the glory of God to three distinct beings, and we brought damnation to ourselves. Please don’t mislead people, eternity is too long to be wrong. Lots of love from us to all that are searching for truth, We are sure you will find the truth, because he promised.Thank you Jesus, amen.
I’ve done videos on the above my friend. God bless!
The Spirit was present in created within the first 2 verses of Genesis, The spirt isn't a creation of God, The Spirit is one with God.
We don’t need to explain it brother, as we know the long version of 1 John 5:7 is not original to the Greek text. There is a ton of manuscript proof for that, plus a ton of scholarship to back it up. It’s one of the clearest proofs the Trinity doctrine is false, because they desperately had to add a verse to the Bible to fit the Trinity doctrine into scripture. Praise Jesus it’s exposed!
Your hilarious! We don’t need to explain Scripture because I’ll bring up a totally unrelated subject? That’s just weird. Are you ok? You gotta have something way better than that.
New Life Of Albany Ga. Well in the video you brought up the 1 John 5:7 subject, so I’m not sure how I’m bringing up an unrelated subject. I realize man-made traditions are hard to shake off but at least you’re praying to the one true God. God bless you and your sarcasm. 🙏😀
I saw this a few years ago as the Lord allowing it in scripture to EXPOSE the Anti Christ so called "Church" because it doesn't fit MANY of the clear scriptures of the Dual Nature of Christ
"1 Jn 5:7 not in the Greek text"...a false claim by modern Textual Critics; however, it does appear in old Greek texts, Latin texts (same time period), quoted by many church fathers older than those texts. It has vast evidence. Here's a 30 page easy read for $4 and $3 kindle.
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