Hello pastor Steve. My wife and I are going to move to Macon and I have been looking into churches in that area. Are there any churches in the Macon, Warner Robins area you would recommend?
The Father is spirit and invisible and Jesus is his physical image and manifestation who died for our sins. The Father died for our sins in the man Jesus Christ and he returned into heaven to the glory he had before.
SavedBYJesus If Jesus is the god how did the god die then if Jesus is a god he should die because he is a god but as u see he couldn’t save himself from death because he is not a god
@@omarkhalid2580 read: 1Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Genesis 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together. John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Philippians 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. (the (he) that was manifested in the flesh to take away our sins in 1John 3 line 5 is the (Father) in 1John 3 line 1): 1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. (the (Word) in John 1 is interpreted by God and found in 1John 1. The (Word) is the eternal life of the Father. The Father's eternal life was with him and his life was manifested according to): John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 1John 3:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. 25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. 27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
Pastor: How long has it taken to get a order from CBP? I ordered a bible on the 9th, they sent confirmation of the order, and received the payment, but still no word since.
Well, in trinitarianism that’s the rub. They define person theologically and not in reality. Then often they say we really don’t mean person. So it’s difficult.
Good teaching, most people don't understand the difference, the Eternal God incarnated his spirit in a virgin, God was manifest in the flesh, God with us, 1st Timothy 3:16, Matthew 1:23, the Eternal God never stopped being omnipresent,omnipotent, omniscient, but yet in heaven these three are one entity, 1st John 5:7, in heaven one entity. My God why has thou forsaken me, the flesh was about to suffer.
"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" are words spoken on behalf of us (the son being a priest) and also to point out to Psalm 22 as to have us read it all starting with those words.
@@toozzzy396 Jesus being seated at the right hand means two things. He is the power of God over death, Gods right hand of power. It also is the sons of God being His seconds. Jesus sits on the fathers throne with the father, yet there’s only one who sits on the fathers throne. That being the father. Jesus is the father come in the flesh as a son, to bring many sons to glory.
@@thomasdillon5416 lol read what you said do you really think that makes sense You said he is the power over death Gods right hand of power yet his the father but his seated next to the father
Pastor quick question, due to God being one spirit and not a multiplicity of spirits, can the father and Holy Spirit be used synonymously? I understand Jesus being god manifested in bodily form but I struggle where the Holy Spirit comes in to play with all this
The reason why you are confused is because many are not teaching the word, that God anointed Jesus with the Holy Spirit and power (after he was baptized by John) like the Apostles preached and as Jesus preached also. 👉🏽Read Luke 3:21-22, 4:1-22/ Acts 2:22-24, 10:34-42 In Luke 4:18 Jesus read from the book of the prophet Isaiah (Esaias) and this is what he read: The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised. To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. In verse 21 he says: This day this scripture is fulfilled in your ears. In John 1:32-34 it says: And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and 👉🏽remaining on him👈🏽, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. And I saw and bare record this is the Son of God. (Note: The Spirit descended upon him and remained on him, it never left him.) John 3:34-35 For he who God have sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. (Note : God giving him the Spirit and he speaks the words of God) The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. When it is not preached or taught that God anointed Jesus with the Holy Spirit and power, many believe that Jesus did miracles, wonders and signs himself rather than that God did those works by Jesus. When it is not taught that God gave all things into his hand people do not understand why Jesus was able to forgive sins being a man, so they say "It's because he is God" or "Only God can forgive sins", not understanding that God gave him the power to do so. Many do not understand that the Spirit of God was dwelling in Christ. This is why Jesus says in John 14:10: Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 🙏🏽
"Rational spirit-filled Christians", Scrap that ALL "9NT Authors+27 Books", Taught "Jesus has God". Especially the "Un-named Memoir", nicknamed "Gospel of John".(Anonymous scribes, see chapter 21) John 20:31 But these are written that ye may believe that 🤴🏼Jesus is the Christ, the 🔎Son of God👨🏼🦳, and that believing ye might have life in his name. [John 20:31 "Solves" John 1:1] John 20:17 Jesus said go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to " to 👨🦳My Father" and 👉"Your Father", and to 👨🦳My God AND 👉your God. "Same John" signed off, claiming resurrected Jesus Still "has a God" watch... Rev 1:1 the revelation God gave 👉Jesus Christ, to show John and followers what must soon take place John,👨🏻🦳Him who is, and who was, and who is to come,👈 and from the seven spirits before his throne, and to 🤴🏻Jesus Christ the faithful witness and first born from the dead. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve 👉His God and Father, to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen. 7 “Look, he🤴🏻 {CHRIST}is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all people on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen. 8“👉 I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God,👨🏻🦳 “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” YHWHGod is the Alpha/Omega is the giver of this "prophecy". Jesus is the first witness, the first born from the dead, The Lamb. (Rev. 21,22 YHWHGod is referenced as “the beginning and the end.” (Rev. 21,22 & 60+times elsewhere) Rev 3:2 Be constantly alert, and strengthen the things that remain, which were about to die; for I have not found your deeds completed in the sight of 👉My God. Revelation 3:12 The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of 👉"My God". Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of 👉"My God", and the name of the city of 👉 "My God", the new Jerusalem, which comes down from 👉 "My God" out of heaven, and 🤴🏻My New Name". (2 Separate individuals) Rev 3:21 KJV To him that overcomith , will I grant to sit with me on 🤴🏻"My Throne"; even as I also overcame, and ad set down with 👨🏻🦳"my father" on his throne. Matthew 19:28 Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the 👉"Son Of Man👈 will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. AGAIN: Acts 7:55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the "Glory of God, and 🤴🏻"Jesus standing" at the right hand of 👨🏻🦳God. 56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and 🤴🏻"The Son of Man, Standing at the right hand 👨🏻🦳of God.” Here's where we find Jesus in the O.T. Daniel 7:9-14 “As I looked, “thrones were set in place, and the👨🏻🦳 "Ancient of Days" took his seat His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze. 10. A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened. 13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a 👉 "Son of Man",coming with the clouds of heaven. 🤴🏻He approached the 👨🏻🦳 "Ancient of Days" and was led into his presence. 14 🤴🏻He was given Authority, glory and sovereign power; All Nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an Everlasting Dominion that will not pass away, and His Kingdom is one that will never be destroyed. 👆Jesus left his disciples in Galilee & Rhode a cloud to heaven & was presented before YHWH God So to recap... ALL of Johns Books 1,2,3, & Revelation, and 9NT Authors consistently taught: Jesus "has a God", including the Gentiles the Onelord + One God doctrine from Paul.
So in Gen 2:24, is there only one person in marriage since they're "one flesh"?? In Matt 24:36, if the Son is the Father, how could Jesus not being a individual distinct personality, with his own mind, will and emotions, but being the same Father, say that "only the Father knows"?? In Luke 22:42, if the Son is the Father being the exact same person and not a distinct separate personality, why did Jesus say "not my will, but thine"?? So the Son, who is actually the Father said, not his will (the Father speaking as the Son) but the Father's will, rightttt?? In Matt 12:30-31 if the Holy Spirit is the Father and not a distinct personality, then why is blasphemy against the Father forgiven but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (the same person - the Father) is unpardonable??
Exodus 7:1 Then Yahweh said to Moses, “See, set you as 💯God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet. Same as Moses? Jesus became "God's mouth-piece" AND Gods Messenger, of the New covenant. John-Baptist was his Aaron... Exodus 4:15-17 Yahweh speaking: 15. And you are to speak to him and put the words in his mouth; and I, 👉will be with your mouth and with His mouth, and I will instruct you in what you shall do. 16 Moreover, he shall speak for you to the people; and he will become as a mouth for you, and you will become as 🆘God to him.👈 17. And you shall take in your hand this staff, with which you shall do the signs.” You shall speak to him and put the words in his.... AGAIN JESUS & JOHN Deuteronomy 18:18 And Yahweh said to me, ‘They have spoken well. 18. I will raise up a prophet from among their brothers like you, and I will put 👉My words in his mouth, 👈and he shall speak to them all that I commend him. 19. And it will be that whoever will not listen to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. John 14:9-10 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the 👉Father who dwells in me does 👉his works. [Immaculate Sinless conception, and Christ's complete submission allowing God to supernaturally manifest+ Operate through Him] John 17:8 🤴🏻For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me. Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you John 10:35-36 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came-and Scripture cannot be broken- do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God
@@Bible4k You just quoted verses... no interpretation and no context to them... so you like others did all that to go around and come right back to being pointless. There are so many enormous contractions you have when you try to import your ideology that the Son is the same person as the Father. You can't have your cake and eat it!!
Well Christ being forsaken by the father I think was mainly to demonstrate the faithfulness of Chirst in The Father even while feeling abandoned but Christ already shows you what He really believes that The Father will not abandon Him and Christ as a partaker of Adam consequences of the ancestral sin does experience abandonment like death and fear and yet Christ proves faithful even till death. His last words also prove what He believed when He said "into your hands I commend my spirit" think it was. So He clearly is Not forsaken inspite of what He feels.
Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead! The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
God is TRIUNE not just one person but 3 in one. It wouldn't make sense for jesus to pray to himself on olive Mountain to submit his spirit to himself, and to not know the hour but himself. And to get baptised and speak from heaven while also manifesting as a dove to land on himself. Our God is one indeed but he is tripersonal ( one essence and 3 persons that are united in their distinct roles). Our God is Love, it's always been his nature thus, from eternity past before everything, he has always been love because he's always been performing the action of love within the community of the trinity. Otherwise, his love would've been contingent upon his creation. Love is an action not just a dispositional quality like mercy, forgiveness..etc. Now, if god is trinity because of his nature of love then why 3 and not 4,100, or infinite persons? A/ the reason is because there can only be 3 different and qualitatively better forms of love. 1. Self love ( the father) 2-shared love( love shared between the father and the son jesus). 3- cooperative love( the father and son share a cooperative love with the holy spirit). The need for an extra being is beyond necessity because there won't be a qualitatively better forms of love but a duplication of cooperative love. These 3 forms of love can be seen in creation. (Husband , wife and their son) Ik the word trinity is not mentioned in the bible but neither is omnipresent and omniscient and omnipotent but, does that mean that god is neither of these adjectives. NO Trinity does not mean 3 Gods but One in 3 persons. There are plenty of verses that support the trinity of god. Gen1 the word for god use is elohim-->gods. When jesus prophesied of the coming of the holly spirit he said ANOTHER comforter not DIFFERENT. Another is only applied for a person not an impersonal force. There many more evidence from the bible that god is 3 persons in one. Just where have u come with such confusion and twisting of scripture!!
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I don't know how you're drawing that connection to the dove, but aren't they looking at the form of "the Father" in this verse and hearing "the Father's" voice? Also, who is "the Father" hearing from in John 16:13?
Pastor, I respectfully disagree with your oneness view. Here is one verse I feel best puts oneness away.1 John 4:12 “No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.” King James Version (KJV). Jesus was seen.
@@iamhisservant5787 WHO really put on flesh? ........... "when Christ came into the world, he said, “Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, but a body have YOU prepared for ME"
No One Special. These precepts will expound on the matter to prove Jesus is such a God, the only wise God and Saviour, the blessed and only Potentate: 1Timothy 6:14 that thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15 which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. ( John 8 : 24 KJV ) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.👀 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. ( John 14 : 6 - 10 KJV )
Wake up this is the end of the world apocalypse ....God Jesus is coming Rapture iminent Repent of your sins pray to JESUS for forgiveness all the prophecies in Revelation are being fulfilled the world's about to end... get right with Jesus and don't take the mark of the beast or you won't make it to heaven but anyone who takes the mark of the beast will be cast into the lake of fire prepared for Satan and his demons... don't take the vaxxine it has miniature RFID nanobots that will corrupt human DNA and make the human who takes the vaxxine injection into a demon....don't take r -fid chip or the detection patch or anything else that corrupts your DNA it will override Gods name signature(YHWH)in your DNA because Satan wants to damn your soul....it has to do with the worship of Baal they want to corrupt God's Temple which is our bodies don't let them it's the mark of the beast PS don't let them stick anything up your nose or test you because that's how they infect you also to destroy your DNA ...trust in JESUS JESUS is coming.... repent to Jesus pray to Jesus ask him to forgive you for your sins and come into your heart and to fill you with his Holy Spirit and to make you ready for the rapture to prepare you to meet JESUS ask Jesus to make you a born again Christian Jesus died on the cross and rose again on the third day to pay for our sins so that if we believe in Jesus and follow Jesus and become born again Christian we can go to heaven with Jesus and escape from going to hell thank you Jesus amen 🙏 share Jesus saves from going to Hell and that Jesus is the only way to Heaven with all .................
Clement, was Apostle Peters Secretary, And mentioned in Philippians 4:3 RSV Phlip.4:3 And I ask you also, true yokefellow, help these women, for they have labored side by side with me in the gospel together with Clement and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life. Clement of Rome 60-90AD 30+years till martyred. 1 Clement 59:4 "Let all the Gentiles know that Thou art the God alone, and Jesus Christ is Thy Son." Clement echos Jesus in: John 17:3 "Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent." Clement ran the first church however, Polycarp did have some interactions with the apostles also. Martyrdom of Polycarp (120-140AD) O Lord God Almighty, Father of your beloved and blessed Son Jesus Christ, through whom we have received knowledge of you, the God of angels and powers and of all creation, and of the whole race of the righteous who live in your presence, I bless you…I glorify you, through the eternal and heavenly high priest, Jesus Christ, your beloved Son, through whom be glory to you, with him and the Holy Spirit, both now and for the ages to come. Amen Justin First Apology 61* (160AD) There is pronounced over him who chooses to be born again, and has repented of his sins, the name of God the Father and Lord of the universe; he who leads to the laver the person that is to be washed calling him by this name alone. For no one can utter the name of the ineffable God…And in the name of Jesus Christ, who was crucified under Pontius Pilate, and in the name of the Holy Ghost, who through the prophets foretold all things about Jesus, he who is illuminated is washed. Martyrdom of Ignatius 2 (120 AD?) Thou art in error when thou callest the daemons of the nations gods. For there is but one God, who made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that are in them; and one Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, whose kingdom may I enjoy. Acts 7:55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the "Glory of God, and 🫴"JESUS STANDING" at the right hand of 👉God. 56 “Look,” he said,"I see heaven open 🫴"The Son of Man, "Standing" at the right hand 👉of God.” Unanimously all "9 Authors", of the 27NT books "claim Jesus HAS A GOD"!! Especially JOHN? 🤯 20+ Times says Jesus sitting at God's right hand. 20+Times NT says GOD Raised Him. 80+ times Jesus is SON OF MAN in NT 40+ times Son-of-God.
@@au8363 not 3 persons ...that's multipersonality Scripture never says 3 persons But it does say that the Holy Spirit shed his blood for us And also says the Father was pierced for us And also that Jesus will be called the Everlasting Father So how are they 3 persons....when one person was on the cross GOD IS A SPIRIT........NOT 3 Hee are Scriptures for support of the truth Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Acts 20:28 KJV And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zechariah 12:10 KJV God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:24 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 KJV Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 1 John 3:16 KJV One person and one being on the cross but 3 were there...stop looking through carnal eyes
@@_Moses_The_Servant find me in the Bible it says God the Son… God is the Father of of all flesh (Jeremiah 32:27) …. When u read the Bible u can see that THE FATHER HAS ONLY BEEN A SPIRT and that spirit resides in Jesus … which makes Jesus the Father but that Spirit is Christ Spirit
@@SpeeAD You're close. Hey I'm not a Trinitarian by the way. They're deceived. I too believe in the Godhead. However the Jesus is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is Christ pre incarnate, the Word, yet unbegotten by flesh. We are made in the similitude of God. God has a body, soul, and spirit according to 1 Thessalonians 5:23. Now I know the Word was made into flesh (water and blood, 1 John 5) as the Son, we obviously know the Holy Spirit is Christ, unbegotten into flesh. Immortal and omnipresent. The soul (mind, will, and emotions) must be the Father my friend. Intangible, eternal, and invisible.
I like you Pastor Waldron. Lots of oneness people have turned me off with their insistence against the trinity and Jesus name baptism but I like you don’t crucify your Theological opposition
“Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.” Isaiah 53:10 KJV You can get into a lot of Trouble trying to explain who died on the cross for our sins. Repent and Believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Galatians 1:8-9
“This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” ~ John 17:3 (also see I Corinthians 8:6, I Timothy 2:5). Question ~ does Jesus have a God? “Jesus said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God”’~ John 20:17 (also see Mark 27:46, Revelation 3:12).
The answer is simple. Jesus prayed carrying us in His own body as GOD and man and is our perfect example for us to follow Him. Jesus prayed to GOD because he is the SON of GOD. The SON prayed to the FATHER. The SON is equal to the FATHER therefore He is GOD also. Howbeit, the FATHER is still greater than the SON. This is deep knowledge in the WORD of GOD.
Jesus is the only wise God and Saviour and he is known by many names. The person who is the Son of God is eternal, but he did not become the Son until God, who is a Spirit, was manifested in the flesh at his appointed time. We do not find these three words set in this order: (God the Son). We do however find these three words set in this order: (Son of God). If there was a person who was always the (Son of God), and there is not, then this precept we read in Hebrews 1 line 5 would be a lie: Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Interpretations belong to God and we understand the meaning of the word (Word) in John 1 is found when we rightly divide the word of truth according to 2Timothy 2:15 and Isaiah 28 lines 9 through 13. God's interpretation of the word (Word) in John 1 is the (eternal life of the Father). (The Father's eternal life was with him). (The Father's eternal life was manifested and not some other person). is found in 1John 1 according to): John 1:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 1John 1:That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) (The (he) that was manifested to take away our sins in 1John 3 line 5 is the (Father) in Hebrews 1 line 1): 1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. (Once again): 1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. (Philip, who was taught by the Creator of the heavens and the earth, at a time did not know the person of God either and the Lord rebuked Philip for not understanding the Lord Jesus is the Father): John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? (Jesus is the: I Am. Jesus spake these words to Moses and when the eternal life of the Father was manifested in the flesh as the Son of God he also said these words to the Jews who knew not Jesus is the Father): Exodus 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. (The Jews did not understand the Lord Jesus is the Father when they asked Jesus, Who art thou?): John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. 25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. 27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. (Job worshipped God in spirit and in truth and he gave us understanding the 3 names of God we read in 1John 5 line 7 when we read Job 13 lines 6 through 10): 1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Job 13:6 Hear now my reasoning, and hearken to the pleadings of my lips. 7 Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him? 8 Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God? 9 Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him? 10 He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons. Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 1Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
@@Eklegomai 1Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. 1Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
To the Christians that believe that Jesus is the Father: That interpretation is not backed by scriptures unless you twist it to fit your own understanding.. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father (YAH), the Word(Yahusha/Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Jesus stated my Father is greater than I. So was Jesus boasting? Because if Jesus is the Father, the verse above means that Jesus was saying "I am greater than myself" that doesn't make sense.. Or how about this when Jesus stated "I have come to the will of my Father" If Jesus is the Father, shouldn't he have said "I have come to do the will of myself" again, doesn't make sense.. How about the Creation of man in Genesis. "Let 👉US👈 make man in 👉OUR👈 image" Who is "us" and "our" in that verse? It's a dialogue, not a monologue. "Us" and "our" means more than one person in the discussion. The answer is simple, YAH the Father Yahusha/Jesus the Son/The Word made flesh. In the beginning was the Word, And the Word was "With" God. But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.” Is Jesus at the right hand of himself? Makes no sense So when Jesus prayed to the Father, he prayed to himself? In Revelation 5 God went and took the scroll from Himself? Confusion and chaos comes from the other team. YAH is not the author of confusion, we become confused when we lean on our own understanding and deny the scriptures. Acts 7:55-56; Romans 8:34; Ephesians 1:20; Colossians 3:1; Hebrews 1:3; Hebrews 8:1; Hebrews 10:12; Hebrews 12:2; 1 Peter 3:22; Revelation 3:21; Matthew 22:44; Acts 2:33
"my God my God why hast thou forsaken me?" This is from the man on the cross's point of view. But Zechariah 12:10 is that same situation, but from God's point of view. Muslims bring this up to me all the time, and Zechariah 12:10 is my response. The "me" and "him" are clearly the same person! Gets em every time. Also, shows how Jesus is the Father! I love the truth that God is only one(person) Gal. 3:20 amp.
God is TRIUNE not just one person but 3 in one. It wouldn't make sense for jesus to pray to himself on olive Mountain to submit his spirit to himself, and to not know the hour but himself. And to get baptised and speak from heaven while also manifesting as a dove to land on himself. Our God is one indeed but he is tripersonal ( one essence and 3 persons that are united in their distinct roles). Our God is Love, it's always been his nature thus, from eternity past before everything, he has always been love because he's always been performing the action of love within the community of the trinity. Otherwise, his love would've been contingent upon his creation. Love is an action not just a dispositional quality like mercy, forgiveness..etc. Now, if god is trinity because of his nature of love then why 3 and not 4,100, or infinite persons? A/ the reason is because there can only be 3 different and qualitatively better forms of love. 1. Self love ( the father) 2-shared love( love shared between the father and the son jesus). 3- cooperative love( the father and son share a cooperative love with the holy spirit). The need for an extra being is beyond necessity because there won't be a qualitatively better forms of love but a duplication of cooperative love. These 3 forms of love can be seen in creation. (Husband , wife and their son) Ik the word trinity is not mentioned in the bible but neither is omnipresent and omniscient and omnipotent but, does that mean that god is neither of these adjectives. NO Trinity does not mean 3 Gods but One in 3 persons. There are plenty of verses that support the trinity of god. Gen1 the word for god use is elohim-->gods. When jesus prophesied of the coming of the holly spirit he said ANOTHER comforter not DIFFERENT. Another is only applied for a person not an impersonal force. There many more evidence from the bible that god is 3 persons in one. Just where have u come with such confusion and twisting of scripture!!
@@rlg6728 you’ve clearly haven’t done your research if you still believe in a triune God. That concept was created by the church fathers after adopting Greek philosophy from Philo of Alexandria and paganism. Every pagan society contained a trinity and in order to please the pagans or gain their acceptance of Christianity they syncretized the Greek belief that God and His Word and wisdom are separate entities and made them into persons. The trinity doctrine was adopted in the council of Nicaea in 325 AD and finalized in the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD
When God was manifested in the flesh as a man, called the Son of man and the Son of God, he being in the flesh was required to pray and yet when he prayed, his prayer returned to his own bosom because the Son of God is the same person as the Father: 1Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Psalm 65:2 O thou that hearest prayer, unto thee shall all flesh come. Psalm 35:13 But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
@@viviennebaptiste Then why are WE 3 in 1 (Body, Soul, Spirit) and why does 1 John 5:7-8 say what it says? Please explain. 1 John 5:7-8 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Nice job, Pastor. It's great to see wise Christians preaching this Truth. Another great passage proof text is John 14:21-23 tied to Romans 8:9-11. Jesus shows that He IS the Holy Spirit. He doesn't even mention any third person and He makes clear that He and the Father are ONE individual. The Romans passage declares Christ to BE the Holy Spirit and adds that the Father is ALSO the Spirit when it refers to the Spirit of God. None of this allows for ANY definition/explanation of the trinity. All of these verses must be completely ignored/denied for someone to accept and embrace a doctrine of a three-person god. God is ONE individual person that is a spirit. John 4:24 God Almighty indwelled Jesus Christ's physical body and at Christ's Crucifixion, when His heart was pierced by the Roman soldier, it is revealed that He bled blood AND WATER. John 19:34 Water represents the Spirit of God and is spoken of many times, many ways all the way back to the rock that gushed water in the desert for the Israelites. Many will claim that He didn't BLEED water, but that it was just fluid from around His heart that had accumulated due to his suffering. We know this isn't the case because the passage clearly states that it was so shocking to the Roman soldier, who would've seen and done this many times, that he bore witness to it. Why would it say that if what happened was perfectly normal? God bless.
@@au8363 The Father Himself claims to be Jesus all throughout Isaiah 40-48. Isaiah told us, about a thousand years prior to Christ's incarnation, that Christ WOULD BE the Father in the flesh. Isaiah 9:6.
1 Corinthians 8 v 6 but unto us there is BUT 1 GOD, the FATHER, of whom are all things and we in him; AND 1 Lord JESUS Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. In proverbs 8 v 22- 30 who is LORD? and who is me?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa 1 day soon you will find out whose the joke, it's you thats preaching a 100% false gospel, YHWH sent his only begotten SON JESUS/ YAHSHUA , that's it. There is no 3rd person or woman in GODS council, that's a straight out lie!!! There is NO mother in heaven, just a father and a son! No where does it talk about a mother in heaven, that's anti biblical catholic nonsense, your imagination is running wild, your hypocrisy knows no limits truely you are of your fathers, the devil!! Your despicable, you change his words for your own pleasure, and you lead people astray so I will remind your ignorant ass the bible clearly says anyone selling a false religion that leads others away, the blood will be required from the one who did the deceiving, in other words you will be held accountable and punished for leading others astay!
I'm a father, son, brother etc but don't talk to myself as son to father or father to son nor converse in any role as myself with any of my other roles.
@@greaterthansolomon-vv4ho When Jesus says "Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had wih you before the world began.(John 17:5), for that to mean he was the plan of salvation in God's mind simply does not convey the true meaning of glory and is just one of the twists that shows your doctrine originated in the mind of man.
Good video. I believe that Jesus and God the Father are the same person. But can you explain Daniel 7:13 "son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence."
The answer is actually later in the chapter explaining who this is speaking of. I need to make another video on that. I think I’ve explained it in a couple but I can’t remember which ones.
John 20 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ²⁸ And Thomas answered and said unto him(JESUS), MY LORD and MY GOD. ²⁹ JESUS saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST! “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith THE LORD, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY.” - Revelation 1:8 (KJV)WE SEE THE ALMIGHTY FATHER GOD TELLING ABRAHAM WHO HE IS ..ONLY 1 ALMIGHTY FATHER GOD WHO IS IN SON AS REVEALED IN REVELATIONS!
@@josephjones4207 what do you not understand about the prophecy of Isaiah 9:6 where says He shall be called the everlasting Father, Almighty God? If Jesus is not the Father, Almighty God as Isaiah said, then the prophecy was a lie. You are preaching a different gospel, not the gospel of God. You sound more like a Mormon. The name Jesus means Yahweh Saviour.
The main Question is , most people ask is - Is Jesus GOD, (does this mean the Father ) ? Jesus the Son of man, Jesus Son of God . To me , Its about His Humanity, (Son of man ) and Diety ( Son of God ) or the Father - meaning of Son - Who He is
Claiming "Trinity" is not in the Bible to refute its teaching is lame, as "Oneness" is not in the Bible either. Nobody said "Trinity" is in the bible. It is used by theologians to describe the teachings of Scripture about Godhead and the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
I get that I'm a son, and a father my self but I am not a son and a father to my daughter; I am a son to my dad and a father to my daughter. So how is Jesus a son and a father to himself? Almost equally confusing as the trinity
Very smart question, lol. The answer is quite simple. We are trying to understand God without actually meeting him in person and then trying to teach people about him🥴. try explaining the color blue to someone. Now imagine never seeing that color and trying to imagine it. Can we see how confusing this can get 😅. The bible simply gives us a God head and I'm convinced there's definitely three different persons when it comes to God. How, I have now idea.
So who did Jesus pray to when he was praying to th father? Was he praying too himself and tricking those around him? Who was the voice who said “this is my son in whom I am well pleased”, while Jesus was being baptized? Coming from the sky and for everyone present to hear. Why does genesis refer to plural when saying let “US”, make man in “Our” image? Why does Jesus state referring to born again believers that He and the father will come and abode within they’re hearts? You mislead the comment about Jesus sitting on his throne in heaven. Jesus does have a throne and is often mentioned. It also mentions Jesus taking the scroll that only he the Lamb of God is worthy to look upon and open, from God sitting on his throne. Are you saying they are the same person and entity?
Nope. Only one person. Jesus Christ. Jesus IS the Father. John 14:8-9 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
@@erbconsult I tend to agree with you. Jesus is the Father and the Holly Spirit. The fulness of God is not in the universe as he existed before it. God enters the universe as Jesus and acts upon it as the Holly Spirit. That's why I'm considering God as one person with 3 bodies, beings.
Here is the reason: I: "Dear Jesus, who is the omnipotent God?" Jesus: "The Father seeks such people to worship Him. God is a spirit." I: "I see: you mean that your Father is the omnipotent God and that He is a spirit, ONE spirit. Crystal clear: this means that God is just a spirit and not THREE IN ONE as generally claimed !" I: "But if your Father is now a spirit, was He ALWAYS a spirit ?" Jesus: "O righteous Father, the world has not known you...no one has ever seen God" I: "Yes, I can figure out: your Father only existed in the past, this is why He is only a spirit now! This is why you "inherited" the reign of God (The Father loves the Son and has given ALL THINGS into His hand.) I: "Well, how could we call now "God who is a spirit"? But of course: "the Spirit of God" ! Now I understand why "John saw the Spirit of God" (the Spirit of your Father) descend as a dove and say "you are my beloved Son.... !" I: "But WHERE is your Father, the almighty God now? God cannot die or disappear, of course !" Jesus :"He who has seen me has seen the Father" I: " So is it: you were the Father, you were Him! "Son" only means that you COME from the Father, not that you are like a real Son! But what is the difference between you and your Father ?" Jesus: "I can do nothing on my own" I: " I see: this means that you lost your power in order to become like a normal man! This of course means that for any miracle you must turn to the Father, who now works here in the form of a spirit" I: " Well we could say that you are not the omnipotent God anymore but also that you are not distinct from Him..." Jesus: "the Father is in me and I am in the Father".
Who was with God since the beginning? John 1:1 and the Word was with God 2 This one was in the beginning with God. John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time; the "only-begotten" god(Jesus) who is at the Father’s side(Jehovah/YHWH) is the one WHO HAS EXPLAINED "HIM". (only-begotten:(of a child) being the only offspring of its father.) JOHN 5:26 For just as the Father has life in himself, SO HE HAS GRANTED "ALSO" TO THE SON to have life in himself. Explained who? Matthew 11:27 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son IS WILLING TO REVEAL HIM. Reveal who? Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of HEAVEN AND EARTH, because YOU have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Revelation 14:7 He was saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived, so worship THE ONE who made the HEAVEN AND THE HEARTH AND THE SEA AND THE SPRINGS OF WATER.” --
The word in the beginning was not a son either does it say it anywear. The word WITH means to tell you that you cannot seperate God from his word. His word became flesh. Jesus. Jesus is the word that is now a son of God because he was born from a woman but that's just another title like prince of peace and everlasting father. Not everlasting son. Jesus was not in the beginning. In the beginning was the word that was with and was 1 God Not 2 gods. You can't separate God and god's word. So if god's word became flesh and was Jesus Christ... Then how can you in any time separate the word from God? You can't separate jesus from god cause jesus is god full Godhead embodiment Colossians 2:9. Jesus is the only 1 you see sitting on the throne.
@@upclosepersonal "He who sees me SEES HIM who sent me." i.e. Jesus HAD BEEN that almighty God. The almighty God has been able to do ALL his work in the past, everything. Our whole future was known to God, so that it was like SET IN STONE. That ONE future is simply coming true now, even with our free will. After doing his work the God's power was set for good to make that one future true so that it was no longer necessary in God's hands. He could get rid of that power to become like a normal man: the Son of God. The Son of God is now the ONLY KING of heaven and is able to decide what He likes, with free will. However He is not almighty.
If you say Jesus is God as in not the Father God, then I can agree but if you say that Father came down and was born by the Virgin Mary then it's confusing. Coz that makes the Bible contradict itself.
God said, when a man and woman unite in marriage they become one flesh. Obviously they are still separate. Also, Jesus declared that believers in him join him and He in them and become one, even as Jesus and the father are one. Your trying to compare things with a human limited mind. Obviously it has deeper meanings. This guys teaching is suggesting, that only God. Single entity existed, them later in time, he caused Jesus to be born. Start his existence, which is completely false.
God is a Spirit, a Holy Spirit. We know Job worshipped God in spirit and in truth and Job gave the interpretation of 1John 5 line 7 knowing these three are on person. The 3 names are the names of Jesus, the blessed and only Potentate and Jesus reproved Philip for not knowing Jesus is the Father: 1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Job 13:7 Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him? 8 Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God? 9 Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him? 10 He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons. John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. 25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. 27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
@Nenethegreat W One person. God is one person. The Lord thy God is a person. Job understood God to be a person and Job worshipped God in spirit and in truth.
Here Jesus makes a clear distinction between him and God: Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. John 716-17
Dennis Prager says that Jews are similar to Christians because they have a trinity also. But he explains the Jewish trinity is God, Torah, and Israel. That is certainly not a trinity is the person of God.
Here is to clarify the True one God of the Bible. God is The Father. He has a literal son, Jesus Christ who was begotten. At some point in eternity Jesus christ was begotten, he was also slain in eternity. Jesus and God have a father-son relationship in all the fullness of what we can imagine a loving Father and Son relationship to be since we are made in Gods Image. This is why when God sacrificed his Son Jesus it shows how much he loves Human beings. Jesus is also God, and he is the complete God and Man. The Holy Spirit is also God. God is three people but one. This is a divine mystery. Jesus is the literal son of God. Adam was also the son of God but he was not begotten of God, Adam was created from the Dust and never received Gods Spirit (the Holy Spirit). Christians are born-again Holy Spirit filled sons of God. They have the same nature as Jesus christ. Jesus is both Man and God, he even bares his scars from his crucifixion eternally. Jesus and all his Disciples are literal sons and daughters of God the Father. Anyone who does not have the Holy Spirit indwelling in them is not a child of God the Father. Now here is when the divine mystery gets more mysterious. Jesus of Nazereth is also... *drumm roll*... God the Father, The Holy Spirit and the Son of God. Jesus is 100 % the complete Triune God. This is the Truth that the Bible reveals. Infact the Bible reveals that the Last Adam (Jesus the Son of God ) became a life-giving spirit (1 Corinthians 15:45). So actually Jesus Christ became the Holy spirit which gives Life. Now this is a side note and not really related: Jesus Christ incarnated on earth , lived a sinless life, obeyed God the Father completley and thus was able to meet all the requirements for the perfect sacrifice on the Cross to defeat the powers of Satan. There was no other way for us to inherit eternal life. This is also a divine mystery. God literally created human beings as a way to defeat Satan. The battle between God and Evil is based on principles. Satan has principles and so does God. Satans objective is to challenge God, to question his ways and ultimatley to try and get all the Angels and supernatural beings to rebel against God and not worship him and trust in his ways. God created man, to show all the supernatural creatures what happens when he puts His Spirit in Man. That Man, will fight, Chose Good and Defeat Evil to the Glory of God the Father and to Show the angels and supernatural creatures(who christians will eventually judge on judgement day) that God is worth worshipping, following and trusting. Christians live on the Word of God trusting it. We are the only creatures in the universe that will trust God, to even give us eternal life and even lay down our lives like our Lord Jesus did based on what is written in a book. We do this by faith. Jesus is the author and perfector of our Faith. He trusted God even until death... he had his moment of weakness when he thought God the Father Forsook him on the cross, he also had is weakness in the Garden of Gethsemane when he asked God if there was any other way than to be crucified, but God showed his faithfulness by Resurrecting him from the dead and crowning him King of the Universe. Even the angels will praise Jesus for who he is, and how he deals with evil. He is the Prince of Peace. Bringing Peace in the supernatural realms by the laying down of his life and obeying God even if it means death. Satan and all his rebellious followers including the humans who are not chosen by God to have his spirit live inside him will be thrown into the Lake of Fire. This is also a divine mystery because God wants all men to be saved... its just that somehow Satan is able to drag alot of humans down with him by blinding them to the truth. God cant break his principles. He wants all men to be saved but they can only be saved if Christians do their best to preach the gospel to everyone. This is important. Christians need to dedicate their lives to the preaching of the Gospel.
Time stamp: 11:56 "The sonship of Jesus refers to his incarnation" this is complete error. An "only begotten son" cannot be created. In short: What man creates is not man, what man begets is man. What God creates is not God, what God beggets is God. For example: if John created a statue, that statue is not John's son. In the same way: if God creates a human body, soul and nature: that creation is NOT GOD. your definition of sonship is putside the definition of begotten
I totally agree with you, Pastor. That LORD JESUS CHRIST is our FATHER. But I have a question about your opinion. When do you think GOD beget JESUS CHRIST as THE SON of GOD? Was it before the creation of the world or when GOD incarnates as a human into the world? Thanks!
@@au8363 Revelation 21:7. NKJV "He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his GOD and he shall be MY son." Revelation 21:7. New Living Translation "All who are victorious will inherit all these blessings, and I will be their GOD, and they will be MY children."
@@au8363 Isaiah 9:6. NKJV For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Matthew 22:41-46 KJV - While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions. Only a few would understand the significance of this passage of the scripture.
FATHER = SPIRIT = UNSEEN SON = FLESH AS HUMAN KIND = SEEN HOLY SPIRIT = WORKER = UNSEEN Therefore when God said 'Let there be light'. What happened was that the Father which is unseen/spirit spoke the word 'let there be light' which is Jesus. This means 'let there be light' is Jesus which is the spirit's word. Now it's upto the light to shine which the holy spirit walks or flies to switch on the light. That is all
That's a really good message brother i always have people asking me those questions and i don't know much but i always give them Isaiah 44:6 and how Jesus is Jehovah also Revelation 1:11 or Revelation 1:17 clearly Jehovah said he is the first and last and Jesus said the same thing to John the Apostle that he is the first and last
Also compare Daniel 7:9 (KJV) 9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. With Revelation 1:13-14 (KJV) 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Also the last chapter of Revelation confirms that Jesus is the same Lord God of the holy prophets from the Old Testament. John 8:23-24 KJVS [23] And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. [24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he , ye shall die in your sins. Isaiah 43:10-11 KJVS [10] Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord , and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. [11] I, even I, am the Lord ; and beside me there is no saviour.
wilbert ines cuellar Who is god and who is Jesus? Proverbs 30:4 Who has ascended to heaven and then descended?Who has established all the ends of the earth? - What is his name and the name of his son-if you know? -- 5 Every saying of God is refined.He is a shield to those taking refuge in him. 6 Add nothing to his words,Or he will reprove you,And you will be proved a liar And the word is truth and the truth came thanks to Jesus the son of God to reveal God: our celestial father.
Who was with God since the beginning? John 1:1 and the Word was with God 2 This one was in the beginning with God. John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time; the "only-begotten" god(Jesus) who is at the Father’s side(Jehovah/YHWH) is the one WHO HAS EXPLAINED "HIM". (only-begotten:(of a child) being the only offspring of its father.) JOHN 5:26 For just as the Father has life in himself, SO HE HAS GRANTED "ALSO" TO THE SON to have life in himself. Explained who? Matthew 11:27 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son IS WILLING TO REVEAL HIM. Reveal who? Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of HEAVEN AND EARTH, because YOU have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Revelation 14:7 He was saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived, so worship THE ONE who made the HEAVEN AND THE HEARTH AND THE SEA AND THE SPRINGS OF WATER.” --
@@fidelfolozanoiii4499 the answer to the question (what is his name and what is his son's name) in Proverbs 30 line 4 is JESUS. Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? Ephesians 4:9-10 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? [10] He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 1 Kings 20:28 And there came a man of God, and spake unto the king of Israel, and said, Thus saith the LORD, Because the Syrians have said, The LORD is God of the hills, but he is not God of the valleys, therefore will I deliver all this great multitude into thine hand, and ye shall know that I am the LORD. Jeremiah 23:23-24 Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off? [24] Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD. John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 1 John 5:20-21 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. [21] Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen. 1 Timothy 6:14-16 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: [15] Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; [16] Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. Revelation 1:7-8 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. John 8:24-27 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. [25] Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. [26] I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. [27] They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
Praise God amen, thank God for his word, it was settled in heaven to be forever.we Christian because we are a worshipper and follower of Christ Jesus our Lord, amen, there are so many profess Christian today they are not sure who they worship and served, apostles Paul said’ I know whom I believe’ The only God he served is Christ , to live or die . Paul declares the mystery of godliness, God was manifested in the flesh, as Christ taught the apostles, ( he that hath seen me hath seen the Father) why are we contradict of the apostles teaching and the teaching of Christ, as Christ says my sheep shall hear my voice and come, the question to ask. Am I the sheep belong to Jesus Christ? Or I belong to deferent ideology? I know the Jews rejected Christ Jesus, because they followed the tradition of man and not of the scriptures. The Moslem has been denied the scriptures and mixed with Jews tradition. And the other religion with their confusing. But the world of Christianity is so vast, but the scriptures taught that we may come to the unity of faith in the knowledge of Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour, amen, we dumped the doctrine of the trinity because it begins with murdered Christian to believe their trinity doctrine. The very foundation of triune God, it was wavering as you see, Christ didn’t teach the apostles to go to all the world and preach the gospel to every creature, he that believe not kill them, burn them with fire, feeding them the beast and confiscated their property. The spirit call, come out from among them and be separated for me . Well the end of the matter is your decision to make, you want to continue in lie or follow Christ and be saved, amen. Christ says, ‘I am the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive, amen, and still people not believe that Christ Jesus is the only True God our Father. Amen,
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I will tell you why you can't be right. Jesus said he didn't know the time or the hour, only the Father knew. If he didn't know the time or the hour, yet he was God, then he would be lying.
Nenethegreat W No. This is exactly what he said: “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but only the FATHER.” -Mark 13:32 I have heard that same rationale for the trinity so many times. That a limited human mind cannot explain the details of a Holy trinity. But the concept of the trinity is in fact, never mentioned in the bible, created by the church, and is found in many pagan religious doctrines. Jesus also had a will that was separate from his Father’s although he claimed to always do his Father’s will. “Not my will but your will be done” If Jesus is Yahweh then A. He would know the day of his own return and B. He would not have a desire to do something contrary to his own will. Google the Johannine comma
I am prepairing for a debate tomorrow on Facebook. I'm a Trinitarian and my opponent is a Oneness Pentecostal who'll be arguing that the Father was manifeseted in flesh. Would you be willing to debate me on thhis topic. By the way Trinitarians don't beleive in separate persons, they believe in distinct persons.
So many people think Jesus is God the father but forget that Jesus told the pharisees they would see him again standing next to the fathers throne to his right, you also forget Jesus admits he can do nothing without the father for he only does as he sees the father do, you guys also forget Jesus said that when he judges he's not alone that the father is with him, you forget Jesus also said that I and the father are one, that didn't mean that jesus is just the father in the flesh! When Jesus said he and the father are one he meant how they are one in nature, one with how they think, love, show mercy and grace! Your child doesn't just remind people of you by how they look but also how they act at times which can remind people of you making you guys one. To say different is saying that the new testament which is about the son of God is a lie, it's like saying God lied to us and pretended to be his own son making him a liar and a sinner, so if the new testament is about the son of God being our lord and savior and the father giving his only begotten son the world, then why would God perpetrate his only begotten son? There seems to be enough proof out the mouth of Jesus that says they aren't the same being, Jesus is the son of GOD and i believe my bible don't lie when it says jesus is the son of God! To say different means jesus lied and god lied about his only begotten son and that all these scriptures are a lie! The difference between me and your kind is i believe God really sent his ONLY begotten son, NOT THE FATHER IN THE FLESH, you guys think God was jesus in the flesh which is technically saying your god lied about having a son and perpetrated him in the flesh! Also if man was created yet and his soul wasn't created until God breathed the breath of Life into his nostrils, plus angels aren't in God's Image so who was God talking to when he said LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE? You'll also notice in proverbs it mentions the son of God showing their not the same being! Genesis 1:27 KJV - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Proverbs 30:3-4 KJV - I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy. Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? John 1:18 KJV - No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 3:16-18 KJV - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Hebrews 11:17 KJV - By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 1 John 4:9 KJV - In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Hebrews 12:2 KJV - Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. John 5:19 KJV - Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. John 8:16 KJV - And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. John 14:10 KJV - Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. John 8:18 KJV - I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. John 17:1 through 5 KJV - These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. 1 Timothy 2:4 through 6 KJV - Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Matthew 28:18 KJV - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Galatians 1:1 KJV - Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) John 5:18 KJV - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. 1 John 2:22 KJV - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Ephesians 4:13 KJV - Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: Luke 18:19 KJV - And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. I said it before and I'll say it again, I believe God sent his only begotten son and gave him the world, you guys believe God the father was Jesus in the flesh, technically meaning your God perpetrated his own son in the flesh! either you believe God sent his only begotten son or you believe he was perpetrating his only begotten son in the flesh, which is it?
God cannot pray to himself. It says itself in the bible , Jesus asked God , ... Jesus did not talk to himself!! Youre right. God does not have a gender so how did Jesus become a male. Is the nan even replicating Adam as God! Cmon
He isn't. Jesus clearly said "Do not call me good. There is only one who is good and He is in Heaven." He also said "Do not call me Father. There is only one Father and He is in Heaven."
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him, And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1 John 3:24 If God dwelling or abiding in Christ means that he is God, what does this scripture say about us? Similar language is used in John 10:38. John 10:37-38 says," If I do not the works of my Father , believe me not. 👉🏽But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. (This is how he describes "I and my Father are one") Question: Did God give Jesus his Spirit? Yes, John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. Again, And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him, And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1 John 3:24 Also, No man hath seen God at anytime. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. Hereby know we that we dwell in him and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 1John 4:12-13 I am not saying that we are God but that we need to make sure that we are rightly dividing the word of truth. 🙏🏽
In reference to “the right hand of God” Stephen says in Acts 7:54-56 “When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. 55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.” Sir this man literally SAW 👀 Jesus STANDING ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, you can’t stand beside yourself come on Sir what you are teaching is confusing that will cause a spiritual headache, your explanation for your why’s and How’s is not supported by scripture
The term " right hand of God" is figurative for the position of Gods' power. Where else could that be but on Gods' throne ? That's why the Pharisees were mad enough to stone him because he was telling them that Jesus was God.
This is still confusing to me especially the way you explained My God, My God why hath Thou forsaken me. But it also makes sense when you say that the sonship of Jesus Christ started when he was made man. And I also belive that the reason why Jesus Christ was referring the praise to the Fathers on Heaven it's because that He in human form isn't omniscient and omniscient amd He knows that He was going to die, so He must glory to God the Father Almighty with Him. If at all they're the same. ▪︎ Also you mentioned a value point that how can Jesus seat at the Father's right hand if God Almighty himself is a spirit and have mo flesh and bone.?
God is TRIUNE not just one person but 3 in one. It wouldn't make sense for jesus to pray to himself on olive Mountain to submit his spirit to himself, and to not know the hour but himself. And to get baptised and speak from heaven while also manifesting as a dove to land on himself. Also, who sustained and maintained existence when jesus died and why would he need to manifest in 3 characters. Our God is one indeed but he is tripersonal ( one essence and 3 persons that are united in their distinct roles). Our God is Love, it's always been his nature thus, from eternity past before everything, he has always been love because he's always been performing the action of love within the community of the trinity. Otherwise, his love would've been contingent upon his creation. Love is an action not just a dispositional quality like mercy, forgiveness..etc. Now, if god is trinity because of his nature of love then why 3 and not 4,100, or infinite persons? A/ the reason is because there can only be 3 different and qualitatively better forms of love. 1. Self love ( the father) 2-shared love( love shared between the father and the son jesus). 3- cooperative love( the father and son share a cooperative love with the holy spirit). The need for an extra being is beyond necessity because there won't be a qualitatively better forms of love but a duplication of cooperative love. These 3 forms of love can be seen in creation. (Husband , wife and their son) Ik the word trinity is not mentioned in the bible but neither is omnipresent and omniscient and omnipotent but, does that mean that god is neither of these adjectives. NO Trinity does not mean 3 Gods but One in 3 persons. There are plenty of verses that support the trinity of god.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Jesus in his human nature submits and prays to the father who is not jesus. Notice when jesus says " give me the same glory i had WITH you before the world existed" he didn't say the glory that i had as a diety but the glory that he in his divine nature shared with his father who is not him. Consider john 1:1 " in the beginning was the WORD and the word was with God and the word was god" Jesus the son existed from eternity past without his human nature with both the father and the spirit. They are distinct to one another and yet they are united in their equal divinity and roles. The father's role is the thinker, he's the one who thought of creation and salvation. Jesus is the word and the word is what brings about the thoughts in other words, through him the thought become and action. He's the one through him the world was created and he performed the action salvation. The spirit's role is carrying out the work of the father and the son. Because god is love, he's always been love before creation due to to his triune nature. The father is a lover, the son is a loved one and the spirit is a spirit of love.
So according to your answer the flesh says to deity ““And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.” John 17:5 You still claim the flesh prayed this? Did the flesh exist with the deity before the world was? If not why would the flesh (according to your answer) pray this? In your answer there are two options I can see (unless you start to change your answer) is that the flesh did exist prior to creation or the flesh is lying about being with the deity prior to creation.
I've been so confused lately I'm eager to Know if the Trinity God the Father Almighty God the son And God the Holy sprit Are co-equal God or there's difference. I first thought that they're different ie the Father is greater than the son But I also watched a video saying that They're the same, that Jesus Christ gave his omniscient and omnipresence to be fully human. That also leads me to believe that They're co-equal. But I discussed this with my Dad to learn more from him but he refused and say that They're not co-equal. That the father is never equal to the son. So I thought about it and think about a triangle that has 3 points the Top point is separated from the two bottom sides so I lean towards the point that They're different and the Father is definitely greater than the Son. But now watching this video I've leaned towards the point that They might be coequal God as I learnt from you that sonship obviously refers to His earthly beginning and humanity. So in that case Jesus can still be God the father and God the Son. ● It's also stated in the Bible in Isaiah 9:6 King James Version 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. The MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER. How can the Son be called the everlasting Father if he the Son, that's stated in the Bible. I've been really confused and not sure which direction I should lead to, whether God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the same, (Co equal God) or that there's difference between The Father, the son and the Holy Spirit. I'm also very scared not to blaspheme or to chose one side and be wrong. I hope that God Almighty will forgive me and whatever direction I lead towards I pray that, it won't stop me from entering the Kingdom of God. In Jesus Christ mighty name I pray, Amen. God bless you as you read this comment. Amen.
@7Hockage I believe that JESUS is THE FATHER. The bible confirms that. Plenty of verses in fact validates this. But what I'm still not sure about now is, when was GOD begat JESUS? Was it before the creation of the world or when HE incarnated as a human?
@7Hockage I believe that JESUS is THE FATHER since eternity. But what I believe about THE SONSHIP is HIS status as THE SON OF GOD has a beginning. As the word of GOD says so: “I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.” Psalm 2:7 “For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?” Hebrews 1:5
The (these three are one) in 1John 5 line 7 are 3 names of one person. God is a Spirit. The word (a) is singular. God is known by many names and he is one person. Interpretations belong to God and we find the interpretation of 1John 5 line 7 in Job 13 lines 6 through 10. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Job 13:6 Hear now my reasoning, and hearken to the pleadings of my lips. 7 Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him? 8 Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God? 9 Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him? 10 He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons.
Really? Most theologians would strongly disagree with you both Biblically and historically. I teach New Testament Christianity, Lord willing. God bless!
Here are some theologians that disagree, I can send the actual references sorry I made a coment. so yes God Bless you, , just a simple non pastor sorry I interjected myself into your life.Sources " The Letter of Barnabas A.D. 74, Ignatius of Antioch 110, Justin Martyr 155, Mathetes 160, Irenaeus 189, Tertullian 216, Novatian 235, Gregory the Wonderworker 262, Methodius 305, Athanasius 360, Fulgentius of Ruspe 513. the Nicene and Apostle Creed. It apepars that one early group taught Sabellianism but they were condemn as heretics..
That is not true at all my friend. Paul who was one of the first Christians who wrote 1/3 of the New Testament never once preached 1 God in 3 persons or trinity. That false doctrine came later on, but it was NEVER so from the beginning. Whether you want to admit it or not, to say 3 persons is to say 3 individuals that make up a council called God. This is not at all Biblical and this heresy wasn't even taught in the Old Testament. There is only 1 individual who is God and He is the Father of all creation who by His own Spirit---Himself---became a man in order to redeem His Children/bride. Truly our Father has become our Savior---our Salvation----Jesus---Yahweh Our Salvation. I believed the trinity for many years because that is what I was taught---all I knew, but once I began to look deeper, put pride aside, and seek God to show me truth He did. Sometimes we need to put aside all that men taught us and get on our face before God and cry out to Him for truth/revelation so that our eyes will be open.
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. ( John 8 : 24 KJV ) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.👀 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. ( John 14 : 6 - 10 KJV )
Then why are WE 3 in 1 (Body, Soul, Spirit) and why does 1 John 5:7-8 say what it says? Please explain. 1 John 5:7-8 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
You are 1 person with one name. Adam was one, created in the image of God. And I have done at least 9 different videos on 1 John 5:7 from various perspectives.
Who is god and who is Jesus? Proverbs 30:4 Who has ascended to heaven and then descended?Who has established all the ends of the earth? - What is his name and the name of his son-if you know? -- 5 Every saying of God is refined.He is a shield to those taking refuge in him. 6 Add nothing to his words,Or he will reprove you,And you will be proved a liar And the word is truth and the truth came thanks to Jesus the son of God to reveal God: our celestial father.
Jesus is the answer to Proverbs 30 line 4. Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? Jeremiah 23:23-24 Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off? [24] Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD. John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 1 John 5:20-21 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. [21] Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
@@rlg6728 Trinity removed the truth of God The Most High. Acts 3:1313 The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his Servant, Jesus, whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him. 15 whereas you killed the Chief Agent of life. But God RAISED HIM UP from the dead, of which fact we are witnesses
@@fidelfolozanoiii4499 Removed the truth??? Well, we glad we have you guys and ur amazing interpretation😅. Trinity means the belief of One god who is tripersonal. Jesus in his human nature submits and prays to the father who is not jesus. Notice when jesus says " give me the same glory i had WITH you before the world existed" he didn't say the glory that i had as a diety but the glory that he in his divine nature shared with his father who is not him. Consider john 1:1 " in the beginning was the WORD and the word was with God and the word was god" Jesus the son existed from eternity past without his human nature with both the father and the spirit. They are distinct to one another and yet they are united in their equal divinity and roles. The father's role is the thinker, he's the one who thought of creation and salvation. Jesus is the word and the word is what brings about the thoughts in other words, through him the thought become and action. He's the one through him the world was created and he performed the action salvation. The spirit's role is carrying out the work of the father and the son. Because god is love, he's always been love before creation due to to his triune nature. The father is a lover, the son is a loved one and the spirit is a spirit of love
@@rlg6728 Who was with God since the beginning? John 1:1 and the Word was with God 2 This one was in the beginning with God. John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time; the "only-begotten" god(Jesus) who is at the Father’s side(Jehovah/YHWH) is the one WHO HAS EXPLAINED "HIM". (only-begotten:(of a child) being the only offspring of its father.) JOHN 5:26 For just as the Father has life in himself, SO HE HAS GRANTED "ALSO" TO THE SON to have life in himself. Explained who? Matthew 11:27 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son IS WILLING TO REVEAL HIM. Reveal who? Who is the Lord of the heaven and earth? Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of HEAVEN AND EARTH, because YOU have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Revelation 14:7 He was saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived, so worship THE ONE who made the HEAVEN AND THE HEARTH AND THE SEA AND THE SPRINGS OF WATER.” --
Study the Bible. What do Say in Genesis 1:1-2. Do not you see the Holy Spirit and God the Father. The Scripture answered itself followed the reference.
Jesus went to Gedsemene to pray to Father. Means Jesus has somebody above Jesus. The Roman succeded to crucify Jesus but the 3 types of Christians succeded in separating Jesus from Father. Jesus became an orphan. Is this how Christians pay gratefulness to Jesus? Peter disowned Jesus 3 times, why bother persons like Peter who claimed Jesus is the Father too?
@@vladimirkrisnov4322 not necessarily Hebrews 1:8-12 New American Standard Bible 8 But regarding the Son He says, “Your throne, God, is forever and ever, And the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of [a]His kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of joy above Your companions.” 10 And, “You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the works of Your hands; 11 They will perish, but You remain; And they all will [b]wear out like a garment, 12 And like a robe You will roll them up; Like a garment they will also be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not come to an end.” John 1:1-3 New American Standard Bible 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 [a]He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him [b]not even one thing came into being that has come into being. The Holy Spirt And Father are equally as Passionate as Jesus. And John 16:12-15 New American Standard Bible 12 “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them at the present time. 13 But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take from Mine and will disclose it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine; this is why I said that He takes from Mine and will disclose it to you. So The Holy Ghost had a Very Important Role as Important as The Father And Son
He’s not the father and the son. Jesus never even remotely suggested that. In fact he made it clear his power came from his father. He said he would be seated next to his father from now on.
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: and lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.“ Matthew 3:16-17 KJV Very clear verse, three entities, doing three different things at the same time, but in perfect unity. You need the Holy Spirit to understand god, let him guide you in all truth, without humbleness it’s not possible, it’s not the intellect that explains you who god is but: „But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.“ 1 Corinthians 2:10-11 KJV
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa „But there is a spirit in man: And the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding. Great men are not always wise: Neither do the aged understand judgment.“ Job 32:8-9 KJV
Jesus won't claim that before Abraham was "I AM" if JESUS knew that God the Father does not share HIS GODNESS ...HE knew no GOD before HIM and after HIM...God the Father in the old testament told Moises that tell them "I AM who I AM"...what a coincidence that Jesus has the guts to claim before Abraham was "I AM"
The person who is the Son is eternal, but he was not a Son until the appointed time according to the scriptures when God was manifested in the flesh: For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Hebrews 1:5 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 FOR this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; Hebrews 7:1 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; Hebrews 7:2 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Hebrews 7:3
god has no respect for person but he loves man which is his creation..... person is persona ie. officer... lieutenant....judge.... he hates man made TITLES....personas!!! :) Deuteronomy 1:17 “Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.”
@@omarkhalid2580 I am smarter than u high as fuck... Deuteronomy 1:17 Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.
we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 5For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 7Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: 1 Corinthians 8:4b-7a And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. - 1 Corinthians 15:28 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF God; -
When god did not made trinity clear like he made everything else clear through his messengers, then why should we research, connect and deduce that he is triune. Who are we to come up with a theory without his endorsement? I wold listen to Jesus and pray and worship god (the father) as asked by Jesus the Messiah, even if I can connect different verses and come up with the concept of trinity, just because it’s just a corroborated theory not a fact. I would follow a fact over a theory and the fact is Jesus asked me to worship God(the father) and not him. Jesus PBUH did not say worship me nor was he worshipped during his ministry however he worshipped and asked people to worship god(the father). I would do what Jesus PBUH asked me to do than follow a theory. All prophets and believers or eternal and will have an everlasting life I believe, so being eternal by the will of god should not be a criterion of ‘diety-ship’. That said, God is there to guide us so pray to god and he will guide us and until then hold to the rope(Torah , Bible and/or Quran) of god and live by it!
New Life Of Albany Ga. We have to look into it with open mind and heart, and pray to god to lead us to the right path. I know for sure that the children of Israel were looking for the messiah to come and ‘Isa Masih’ did come and we call him Jesus Christ. I pray to god that he make his being clear to us. God has his own ways and I believe that Jesus PBUH is going to come to this world in the last days and make it clear to us! I am a Muslim and I pray to the god of Moses, who is god the father and also the same god that Mohammed the prophet asked us to pray to. I would pray god to enlighten us!
Also, I googled and there are sites that are for and against the dietyship of Jesus so, here is what I conclude- 1. We need to go to the original text of gospels and bible to find out 2. In the absence of original text we should ask god to guide us 3. God has his own ways to guide us so we should wait without fighting each other Countless debates have been organized so far and god has guided who he willed. For now it is good that we do not have anything against each other like the heretics and pagan who wanted to put believers to lions and anything that is bad in this world is dying - at least I see a positive change coming and gods works are unfolding. In Islam , we believe Jesus will come before the end time and restore gods religion among other things that god has planned - so if not now we will know when Jesus PBUH comes in the end times. I believe Mohammed PBUH is a prophet like Jesus PBUH with god ordained messages and capabilities, who have come to mankind with a message. I would ask god to unfold and guide to the right path. Ameen(Amen)
Just found this - “So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. Matthew 24:44 | NIV” So we the Muslims and Christians believe that Jesus PBUH is going to come again. We have more in common to join hands and work together than the trivial differences. And remember that there are devil worshippers and negative forces who are creating a discord among believers (Jews, Christians and Muslims) to advance corruption (erosion of morality, family values, wars, abortions etc.) on the planet while we fight among us on petty differences. And these negative forces act as Muslims among Muslims and Christians when among Christians and destroying religion from within. I am not going to play into devils hands by bashing what Quran respects/says about Jews and Christians as people of the book. Quran says Christians are your best friends followed by Jews. Pagans, devil worshipers and heretics want us to fight while advancing corruption on earth. Remember the core message of Moses, Jesus and Mohammed is basically the same, worship that one god (I do know that majority of Christians worship the tri-UNE god though which is separate discussion, if u will) without idolatry
Christ's Father is Elohim. Christ is Jehovah and The creator. The Holy Spirit is the mind of Christ and Elohim. Christ is a resurrected being with a tangible, perfected body with hands and feet, etc. Elohim also has a perfected body. Christ is our God. When we are born again Christ becomes our Father.
Bro branham said sons have beginnings....he was not eternal.... The godhead is not a trinity of persons....the godhead is three attributes that were in God... The terms Father and Son don't always have the same meaning....like people interpret.... The trinitarians always give the terms Father and Son the meaning of persons which is wrong and the jesus only Pentecostals always give the terms Father and Son the same meaning of 3 attributes or 3 offices which is wrong too.... Bro William branham said God Himself gave birth to His Son before there was a spec of stardust
Hey brother, I agree with a lot of what you said. But Jesus did not have 2 natures or two wills. His will was the will of the father. He said He came not to do His own will meaning He wasn’t here for His own benefit, He wasn’t self seeking. This is proven in 1 Corinthians when we learn love doesn’t boast and isn’t self seeking. That’s what He meant when He said not my will but yours. When He was asking for the cup to pass, during the Passover you could not pass the cup until you drank it. He was praying that He may drink the cup so He could pass it. He wasn’t trying to avoid it, for if He was, God would have done it, as God ALWAYS hears Him. If His will was at all opposing the fathers will, if He had any desire to do something differently than the Father, He’s an adversary. He had our infirmities, but not our desires.
"you could not pass the cup until you drank it". You can either drink and pass or you can just pass without drinking. Jesus asked before He drank so He was obviously doing the latter. Recheck your logic.
@@rand5 nah son, you’re obviously not reading the scripture. Jesus said if the only way the cup was to pass was by drinking, Gods will be done, that’s saying He was praying for the cup to pass by drinking. Jesus said earlier that He would not be asked to be saved from the hour, as the hour was the reason He was there in the first place. According to your logic, Jesus lied and asked to be saved from the hour, even though He said He would not ask to be saved! Rethink your logic 🤦🏼♂️ Scripture tells us if we pray according to His will, it will happen. Jesus prayed for the cup to pass, and the cup passed, as evidenced by His resurrection.
@@rand5 you are reading it in your preconceived notions and translated. A child doesn’t have preconceived notions bud. If a child knows that if we pray according to His will that He will answer, and Jesus prayed to have the cup pass through His drinking of it, 1+1=2. Jesus prayer to have the cup pass was answered. It was the fathers will for the cup to pass! We are supposed to want the same things God wants. We are supposed to love. Love isn’t self seeking. By the cup passing, through means of His resurrection, death has been made a joke by Jesus so that we may have life! You’re completely misunderstanding what having the cup pass from Him means! The cup is death. Jesus drank the cup and it passed. He died then rose from death. A child could see this. It’s so clear. If only you knew and understood Him, it would be clear to you too.
@@thomasdillon5416 i suppose what you say is plausible but Jesus added that one little word, "nevertheless", indicating a contrast between His will and the will of the Father. Jesus said, "I always do the will of the Father". If His will Was the same, He wouldn't have to use those words. He chose freely to do the will of the Father, always. He was our example to follow.
@@rand5 nope, Jesus didn’t speak English. He never said nevertheless. Jesus always does the will of the father because, wait for it, He is the father. You’re making something simple into something complicated.
How do we know an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent God exists in Three?...... because this fact is evidenced in His Word. The Bible would be written in a different narrative if Oneness doctrine were true. For example John 17:24 would read “Myself, I want those I have given myself to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory I have given to myself because I loved myself before the creation of the world."
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa not so. John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. Or should that be "And now, myself, I glorify myself in my presence with the glory I had with myself before the world began." Your arguments are like explaining why grass is blue i.e. it isn't and it doesn't matter what you say to prove it is blue.... because it's not.
@@au8363 false, that is the Nicaean Council Nicolatians heresy doctrines of Roman Catholic Church. The Arians were the ones telling the truth, and the heretics got in power and deceived the whole world tricked into worshipping the beast and his image slapped over the real NT Messiah Yashua. The pagan holidays, Sunday sabbath, they don't even teach of the Melchizedek Law in christ, they teach pure lawlessness because of grace. The Dark Trinity in the scriptures is the KJV added Trinity. The original Greek doesn't even have the 3 in 1 scripture in it. Go study up in the orignal Greek and see for yourself. Yashuas true nature is the highest exalted servant and begotten Son of YAH ALMIGHTY THE MOST HIGH GOD, THE FATHER WHO IS GOD ALONE. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 and 1 Timothy 2:5. [Yashua was a the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning of Creation, followed by another lesser Morningstar(Satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold. The hidden wisdom revealed by Ruach HaQodash [The Holy Spirit] from TMH's word. 🤲🏼❤️🤲🏾 BE DILIGENT, BEHOLD! DAY 1 OF CREATION]: Genesis 1:1-5 [1]In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.[2]And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.[3]And God said, 👉🏽LET THERE BE LIGHT👈🏿: and there was LIGHT.[4]And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.[5]And God called the LIGHT DAY, and the DARKNESS he called NIGHT. And the evening and the morning were THE FIRST DAY. [DAY 4 OF CREATION]: Genesis 1:14-19 [14]And God said, 👉🏽LET THERE BE LIGHTS👈🏿 in the firmament of the heaven to DIVIDE THE DAY FROM THE NIGHT; and LET THEM BE FOR SIGNS, and for SEASONS, and for DAYS, and YEARS: [15]And let them be for LIGHTS in the firmament OF THE HEAVEN to give LIGHT UPON THE EARTH: and it was so. [16]And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.[17]And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, [18]And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. [19]And the evening and the morning were THE FOURTH DAY. [We as carnal beings being called DAY and NIGHT, now that we are walking in the spirit in christ]: 1 Thessalonians 5:5 [5]Ye are all the children of LIGHT, and the children of the DAY: we are not of the NIGHT, nor of DARKNESS. Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation: 👇🏾 John 17:5 King James Version 5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿 [That former glory before being made a man]: 👇🏾 Luke 1:78-79 [78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace. Revelation 22:16 [16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, 👉🏽and THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿 [FIRST DAY OF CREATION OF THOSE SPIRITUAL BEINGS WRITTEN IN JOB 38 OLD TESTAMENT]: Job 38:4-7 [4]Where wast thou when I [FATHER] 👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; [7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and 👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿 shouted for joy? Job 38: 12-15 [12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ] to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken. [Satan, lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12]
@@au8363 THE TRUTH IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK! 🤲🏼🖤 1 John 5:6-8 Greek Orinlginal Version 6 This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood, and the Spirit beareth witness, because the spirit is truth. ✅️7These three they are for the witnessing, 8 the spirit, the water, and the blood, and these three agree in one.✅️ When he was nailed to the cross the water and the blood that leaked from his side when he was pierced by the spear was for a witness of the truth, and the Spirit of truth that came over those who saw and knew right away from His teachings of blood and water prophecy of psalms 22 is a witness in itself. John 19:34-35 KJV 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.
I have something i would like to bring out to the open to the glory of the great I Am. Trinitarians seem to believe in three distinct persons because it seems that's what the bible says. One example is this: Holy spirit is distinct since Jesus said there will come a helper from the Father (John 14:16) But: That helper is the Father (matt 10:20) And the Father's spirit is Jesus (romans 8:9) The one that bought sinners with His own blood (acts 20:28) I dont blame you trinitarians, i think most of us used to made the mistake and forget that God has spoken in parables and riddles. But He speaks plainly of the Father to those who would eventually listen, like His disciples (John 16:25).
I used to believe in oneness until i finally known the truth God is TRIUNE not just one person but 3 in one. It wouldn't make sense for jesus to pray to himself on olive Mountain to submit his spirit to himself, and to not know the hour but himself. And to get baptised and speak from heaven while also manifesting as a dove to land on himself. Our God is one indeed but he is tripersonal ( one essence and 3 persons that are united in their distinct roles). Our God is Love, it's always been his nature thus, from eternity past before everything, he has always been love because he's always been performing the action of love within the community of the trinity. Otherwise, his love would've been contingent upon his creation. Love is an action not just a dispositional quality like mercy, forgiveness..etc. Now, if god is trinity because of his nature of love then why 3 and not 4,100, or infinite persons? A/ the reason is because there can only be 3 different and qualitatively better forms of love. 1. Self love ( the father) 2-shared love( love shared between the father and the son jesus). 3- cooperative love( the father and son share a cooperative love with the holy spirit). The need for an extra being is beyond necessity because there won't be a qualitatively better forms of love but a duplication of cooperative love. These 3 forms of love can be seen in creation. (Husband , wife and their son) Ik the word trinity is not mentioned in the bible but neither is omnipresent and omniscient and omnipotent but, does that mean that god is neither of these adjectives. NO Trinity does not mean 3 Gods but One in 3 persons. There are plenty of verses that support the trinity of god. Gen1 the word for god use is elohim-->gods. When jesus prophesied of the coming of the holly spirit he said ANOTHER comforter not DIFFERENT. Another is only applied for a person not an impersonal force. There many more evidence from the bible that god is 3 persons in one. Just where have u come with such confusion and twisting of scripture!!
Jesus is not the Father the Father is not Jesus the Father is not the Holy Spirit those 3 are distinct yet are One because God is 1 exist in 3 distinct entities with different roles God the Father as the foundation God the Son as our redeemer God the Holy Spirit as our Guide in our daily lives and churches. Jesus was sent by God the Father on earth he did not send himself. In old testament the word Elohim is plural for God it is in Genesis 1:1 also God says Let US make man in OUR image he wasn’t talking to the angels right? otherwise we are also created in the image of the angels. God is 3 in persons but 1 in being it doesn’t mean that we have 3 Gods. Jesus is God The Father is God The Holy Ghost is God But God is ONE HERE IS THE EQUATION FOR THE TRINITY 1+1+1= 1 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (KJV) When Jesus is praying to the Father was he praying to himself in heaven? It doesn’t make sense and also if Jesus is the Holy Spirit was he also the Holy Spirit that Jesus received from the Father which is also him when he was baptized? It really doesn’t make sense. Modalism is a false doctrine. Trinity is Monotheism No one can comprehend God you are trying to put God in a comprehensible being which is One person One being. God is better than all of us no human mind will fully undertand how the Trinity works because that is the TRUE nature of God. If Jesus is already the Father then why would we need him as a mediator between man and God?
So your saying God is not alone because he is with unity with two. You can't say he is alone but his unified that's just incorrect and it doesn't make sense even to the infinite mind🤣
Even God will disagree with you, No one is beside him and no is with him and no one is after him he is singular . 1+1+1 Can't be 1 if they have their own will and mind.
That is clearly not Biblical, the trinity is just a made up doctrines by the confused prophet and it actually comes from Paganism the early trinitarian won't disagree.
Jesus is God but created proven: Revelation 3:14 King James Version (KJV) 14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, *the beginning of the creation of God;* Colossians 1:15 King James Version (KJV) 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, *the firstborn of every creature:* Hebrews 1:4-5 King James Version (KJV) 4 *Being made so much better than the angels,* as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, *Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?* And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? context prove he was begotten before his incarnation on earth. so this verse is not talking about his earthly birth.
If you read further on the idea of begotten meaning created is disproved, it says he is the firstborn of the dead, this shows that firstborn is in terms of ranking. Hebrews 1:8 Jehovah God says ““But of the Son He says, “Y OUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, A ND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF H IS KINGDOM. Y OU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; T HEREFORE GOD, Y OUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED Y OU W ITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE Y OUR COMPANIONS.” And, “Y OU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, A ND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF Y OUR HANDS; T HEY WILL PERISH, BUT Y OU REMAIN; A ND THEY ALL WILL BECOME OLD LIKE A GARMENT, A ND LIKE A MANTLE Y OU WILL ROLL THEM UP; L IKE A GARMENT THEY WILL ALSO BE CHANGED. B UT Y OU ARE THE SAME, A ND Y OUR YEARS WILL NOT COME TO AN END.”” Hebrews 1:8-12 . The end of those verses it is the same description used about Jehovah God in psalms and in Job
Hello pastor Steve. My wife and I are going to move to Macon and I have been looking into churches in that area. Are there any churches in the Macon, Warner Robins area you would recommend?
Pastor William Davis in Macon, Pastor James Driver in Warner Robins.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Thank you very much for your help Steve!
The Father is spirit and invisible and Jesus is his physical image and manifestation who died for our sins. The Father died for our sins in the man Jesus Christ and he returned into heaven to the glory he had before.
SavedBYJesus If Jesus is the god how did the god die then if Jesus is a god he should die because he is a god but as u see he couldn’t save himself from death because he is not a god
If the father deid you better get a new doctrine
@@lila3431 the father didn't die. God was in Christ reconciling us to himself. You can't kill spirit.
@@omarkhalid2580 read:
1Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Genesis 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Philippians 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
(the (he) that was manifested in the flesh to take away our sins in 1John 3 line 5 is the (Father) in 1John 3 line 1):
1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
(the (Word) in John 1 is interpreted by God and found in 1John 1. The (Word) is the eternal life of the Father. The Father's eternal life was with him and his life was manifested according to):
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
1John 3:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
Isn’t Jesus a spirit in heaven and wouldn’t that make him the Holy Spirit when we see him in heaven?
Pastor: How long has it taken to get a order from CBP? I ordered a bible on the 9th, they sent confirmation of the order, and received the payment, but still no word since.
Usually 6-9 Business days. Presidents Day may have delayed it also.
Jesus Is Not The Father
Hey Steve Waldron , can you define the term " Person " ? I'm getting all sorts of defintions online . God bless
Well, in trinitarianism that’s the rub. They define person theologically and not in reality. Then often they say we really don’t mean person. So it’s difficult.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I know right it's confusing , how would you define person ?
Good teaching, most people don't understand the difference, the Eternal God incarnated his spirit in a virgin, God was manifest in the flesh, God with us, 1st Timothy 3:16, Matthew 1:23, the Eternal God never stopped being omnipresent,omnipotent, omniscient, but yet in heaven these three are one entity, 1st John 5:7, in heaven one entity. My God why has thou forsaken me, the flesh was about to suffer.
Plz watch this debate about ONENESS VS TRINITY
ruclips.net/video/Yuwq8-dixt4/видео.html
Jesus said I am here to tell you about my father. He never said he was the father.
@@jamesduck926 the holy ghost is the father Matthew 1:18 KJV Jesus is the everlasting father
Ugh
@@jamesduck926 Jesus literally said, if you’ve seen me you have seen the father. Pretty plain speech.
Please where can I find the videos that you said that Jesus Christ seat at the throne ?
Please send me the link.
I’m so sorry I don’t do links, but you can do a Channel search and find them.
Matthew 25:31 When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.
Revelations 3:21 The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.
Revelations 4:2 At once I was in the Spirit, and behold, a throne stood in heaven, with one seated on the throne
@@jackpickford7487 Amen! Revelation 22:3-4 also!
GodBless you for this video sir 🙏🏽
where can i hear you preach
I’ve got messages all over the channel.
God became a man! Father of all creation, Son in redemption, HolySpirit in regeneration! One true God! The ALMIGHTY the ALPHA AND the OMEGA!
"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" are words spoken on behalf of us (the son being a priest) and also to point out to Psalm 22 as to have us read it all starting with those words.
Jesus after resurrection says his returning to the father
His preparing a new earth for his people
Jesus is sitting on the right hand side of God
Exactly!!
Thank you
@@toozzzy396 Jesus being seated at the right hand means two things. He is the power of God over death, Gods right hand of power. It also is the sons of God being His seconds.
Jesus sits on the fathers throne with the father, yet there’s only one who sits on the fathers throne. That being the father. Jesus is the father come in the flesh as a son, to bring many sons to glory.
@@thomasdillon5416 lol read what you said do you really think that makes sense
You said he is the power over death Gods right hand of power yet his the father but his seated next to the father
Exactly! God bless you!
Pastor how do you explain Philippians 2:6-11?
I’ll try to do a vid on it. Thanks!
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Please do so!
We can't judge anyone here but we need to be extra careful as well.
Son of man and son of God. 100% human 100% God. Funny thing is Jesus said “who do you think I am.” To this day we ask that question. Colossians 2:8-9
Colossians 1:14-16
Pastor quick question, due to God being one spirit and not a multiplicity of spirits, can the father and Holy Spirit be used synonymously? I understand Jesus being god manifested in bodily form but I struggle where the Holy Spirit comes in to play with all this
Pretty much, yes
The reason why you are confused is because many are not teaching the word, that God anointed Jesus with the Holy Spirit and power (after he was baptized by John) like the Apostles preached and as Jesus preached also.
👉🏽Read Luke 3:21-22, 4:1-22/ Acts 2:22-24, 10:34-42
In Luke 4:18 Jesus read from the book of the prophet Isaiah (Esaias) and this is what he read:
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised.
To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
In verse 21 he says:
This day this scripture is fulfilled in your ears.
In John 1:32-34 it says:
And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and 👉🏽remaining on him👈🏽, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
And I saw and bare record this is the Son of God.
(Note: The Spirit descended upon him and remained on him, it never left him.)
John 3:34-35
For he who God have sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. (Note : God giving him the Spirit and he speaks the words of God)
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
When it is not preached or taught that God anointed Jesus with the Holy Spirit and power, many believe that Jesus did miracles, wonders and signs himself rather than that God did those works by Jesus. When it is not taught that God gave all things into his hand people do not understand why Jesus was able to forgive sins being a man, so they say "It's because he is God" or "Only God can forgive sins", not understanding that God gave him the power to do so. Many do not understand that the Spirit of God was dwelling in Christ.
This is why Jesus says in John 14:10:
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 🙏🏽
Jesus Is Not The Father
"Rational spirit-filled Christians",
Scrap that ALL "9NT Authors+27 Books",
Taught "Jesus has God". Especially the "Un-named Memoir", nicknamed "Gospel of John".(Anonymous scribes, see chapter 21)
John 20:31
But these are written that ye may believe that
🤴🏼Jesus is the Christ, the 🔎Son of God👨🏼🦳,
and that believing ye might have life in his name.
[John 20:31 "Solves" John 1:1]
John 20:17 Jesus said go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to " to
👨🦳My Father" and 👉"Your Father", and to
👨🦳My God AND 👉your God.
"Same John" signed off, claiming resurrected Jesus Still "has a God" watch...
Rev 1:1 the revelation
God gave 👉Jesus Christ, to show John and followers what must soon take place John,👨🏻🦳Him who is, and who was, and who is to come,👈 and from the seven spirits before his throne,
and to
🤴🏻Jesus Christ the faithful witness and first born from the dead.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood,
6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve
👉His God and Father, to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
7 “Look, he🤴🏻 {CHRIST}is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”;
and all people on earth “will mourn because of him.”
So shall it be! Amen.
8“👉 I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God,👨🏻🦳 “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
YHWHGod is the Alpha/Omega is the giver of this "prophecy".
Jesus is the first witness, the first born from the dead, The Lamb.
(Rev. 21,22 YHWHGod is referenced as “the beginning and the end.” (Rev. 21,22 & 60+times elsewhere)
Rev 3:2 Be constantly alert, and strengthen the things that remain, which were about to die; for I have not found your deeds completed in the sight of 👉My God.
Revelation 3:12
The one who conquers,
I will make him a pillar in the temple of
👉"My God". Never shall he go out of it,
and I will write on him the name of
👉"My God", and the name of the city of
👉 "My God", the new Jerusalem,
which comes down from
👉 "My God" out of heaven, and
🤴🏻My New Name".
(2 Separate individuals)
Rev 3:21 KJV
To him that overcomith ,
will I grant to sit with me on
🤴🏻"My Throne"; even as I also overcame,
and ad set down with
👨🏻🦳"my father" on his throne.
Matthew 19:28
Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the 👉"Son Of Man👈 will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
AGAIN:
Acts 7:55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the "Glory of God,
and 🤴🏻"Jesus standing"
at the right hand of
👨🏻🦳God.
56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and
🤴🏻"The Son of Man,
Standing at the right hand 👨🏻🦳of God.”
Here's where we find Jesus in the O.T.
Daniel 7:9-14
“As I looked, “thrones were set in place,
and the👨🏻🦳 "Ancient of Days" took his seat
His clothing was as white as snow;
the hair of his head was white like wool.
His throne was flaming with fire,
and its wheels were all ablaze.
10. A river of fire was flowing, coming
out from before him.
Thousands upon thousands attended him;
ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened.
13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a
👉 "Son of Man",coming with the clouds of heaven. 🤴🏻He approached the
👨🏻🦳 "Ancient of Days" and was led into his presence.
14 🤴🏻He was given Authority, glory and sovereign power; All Nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an Everlasting Dominion that will not pass away, and His Kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
👆Jesus left his disciples in Galilee & Rhode a cloud to heaven & was presented before YHWH God
So to recap...
ALL of Johns Books 1,2,3, & Revelation, and 9NT Authors consistently taught: Jesus "has a God", including the Gentiles the Onelord + One God doctrine from Paul.
humans can’t comprehend God just deal with it
hi how do you explain revelation chapter 3:21
Father and Son on the Throne. One of our primary Oneness Verses. Jesus in Flesh.
So in Gen 2:24, is there only one person in marriage since they're "one flesh"?? In Matt 24:36, if the Son is the Father, how could Jesus not being a individual distinct personality, with his own mind, will and emotions, but being the same Father, say that "only the Father knows"?? In Luke 22:42, if the Son is the Father being the exact same person and not a distinct separate personality, why did Jesus say "not my will, but thine"?? So the Son, who is actually the Father said, not his will (the Father speaking as the Son) but the Father's will, rightttt?? In Matt 12:30-31 if the Holy Spirit is the Father and not a distinct personality, then why is blasphemy against the Father forgiven but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (the same person - the Father) is unpardonable??
Humanity and Deity.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Okay, know that Jesus is both divine and human, but which of the question I have does this answer??
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons
Exodus 7:1
Then Yahweh said to Moses, “See, set you as 💯God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.
Same as Moses?
Jesus became "God's mouth-piece" AND Gods Messenger, of the New covenant.
John-Baptist was his Aaron...
Exodus 4:15-17
Yahweh speaking:
15. And you are to speak to him and put the words in his mouth; and I, 👉will be with your mouth and with His mouth, and I will instruct you in what you shall do. 16 Moreover, he shall speak for you to the people; and he will become as a mouth for you, and you will become as 🆘God to him.👈 17. And you shall take in your hand this staff, with which you shall do the signs.”
You shall speak to him and put the words in his....
AGAIN JESUS & JOHN
Deuteronomy 18:18
And Yahweh said to me, ‘They have spoken well.
18. I will raise up a prophet from among their brothers like you, and I will put 👉My words in his mouth, 👈and he shall speak to them all that I commend him. 19. And it will be that whoever will not listen to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him.
John 14:9-10
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the 👉Father who dwells in me does 👉his works.
[Immaculate Sinless conception, and Christ's complete submission allowing God to supernaturally manifest+ Operate through
Him]
John 17:8
🤴🏻For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me.
Psalm 82:6
I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you
John 10:35-36
If he called them gods to whom the word of God came-and Scripture cannot be broken- do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God
@@Bible4k You just quoted verses... no interpretation and no context to them... so you like others did all that to go around and come right back to being pointless. There are so many enormous contractions you have when you try to import your ideology that the Son is the same person as the Father. You can't have your cake and eat it!!
Well Christ being forsaken by the father I think was mainly to demonstrate the faithfulness of Chirst in The Father even while feeling abandoned but Christ already shows you what He really believes that The Father will not abandon Him and Christ as a partaker of Adam consequences of the ancestral sin does experience abandonment like death and fear and yet Christ proves faithful even till death. His last words also prove what He believed when He said "into your hands I commend my spirit" think it was. So He clearly is Not forsaken inspite of what He feels.
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
God is TRIUNE not just one person but 3 in one.
It wouldn't make sense for jesus to pray to himself on olive Mountain to submit his spirit to himself, and to not know the hour but himself. And to get baptised and speak from heaven while also manifesting as a dove to land on himself. Our God is one indeed but he is tripersonal ( one essence and 3 persons that are united in their distinct roles). Our God is Love, it's always been his nature thus, from eternity past before everything, he has always been love because he's always been performing the action of love within the community of the trinity. Otherwise, his love would've been contingent upon his creation. Love is an action not just a dispositional quality like mercy, forgiveness..etc.
Now, if god is trinity because of his nature of love then why 3 and not 4,100, or infinite persons?
A/ the reason is because there can only be 3 different and qualitatively better forms of love. 1. Self love ( the father) 2-shared love( love shared between the father and the son jesus). 3- cooperative love( the father and son share a cooperative love with the holy spirit). The need for an extra being is beyond necessity because there won't be a qualitatively better forms of love but a duplication of cooperative love. These 3 forms of love can be seen in creation. (Husband , wife and their son)
Ik the word trinity is not mentioned in the bible but neither is omnipresent and omniscient and omnipotent but, does that mean that god is neither of these adjectives. NO
Trinity does not mean 3 Gods but One in 3 persons.
There are plenty of verses that support the trinity of god.
Gen1 the word for god use is elohim-->gods.
When jesus prophesied of the coming of the holly spirit he said ANOTHER comforter not DIFFERENT. Another is only applied for a person not an impersonal force.
There many more evidence from the bible that god is 3 persons in one. Just where have u come with such confusion and twisting of scripture!!
@@mitchellc4 Jesus’s flesh died. Not his divine nature. And yes, Jesus claimed to be God. Even God, the Father speaks of Him as God in Hebrews.
Jesus Is Not The Father
John 5:37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form."
Dove at Jesus Baptism is the Father as this Verse shows.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I don't know how you're drawing that connection to the dove, but aren't they looking at the form of "the Father" in this verse and hearing "the Father's" voice?
Also, who is "the Father" hearing from in John 16:13?
Pastor, I respectfully disagree with your oneness view. Here is one verse I feel best puts oneness away.1 John 4:12
“No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.”
King James Version (KJV). Jesus was seen.
God is a Spirit
God manifested in the Flesh
Jesus is Son in Human nature and God in his divinity
Spirit has no Flesh and bones
@@iamhisservant5787 WHO really put on flesh? ........... "when Christ came into the world, he said, “Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, but a body have YOU prepared for ME"
hebrews 1
No One Special. These precepts will expound on the matter to prove Jesus is such a God, the only wise God and Saviour, the blessed and only Potentate: 1Timothy 6:14 that thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15 which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
( John 8 : 24 KJV )
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.👀
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
( John 14 : 6 - 10 KJV )
You are shining light sir, pleasure hearing from now
Wake up this is the end of the world apocalypse ....God Jesus is coming Rapture iminent Repent of your sins pray to JESUS for forgiveness all the prophecies in Revelation are being fulfilled the world's about to end... get right with Jesus and don't take the mark of the beast or you won't make it to heaven but anyone who takes the mark of the beast will be cast into the lake of fire prepared for Satan and his demons...
don't take the vaxxine it has miniature RFID nanobots that will corrupt human DNA and make the human who takes the vaxxine injection into a demon....don't take r -fid chip or the detection patch or anything else that corrupts your DNA it will override Gods name signature(YHWH)in your DNA because Satan wants to damn your soul....it has to do with the worship of Baal they want to corrupt God's Temple which is our bodies don't let them it's the mark of the beast PS don't let them stick anything up your nose or test you because that's how they infect you also to destroy your DNA ...trust in JESUS JESUS is coming....
repent to Jesus pray to Jesus ask him to forgive you for your sins and come into your heart and to fill you with his Holy Spirit and to make you ready for the rapture to prepare you to meet JESUS ask Jesus to make you a born again Christian Jesus died on the cross and rose again on the third day to pay for our sins so that if we believe in Jesus and follow Jesus and become born again Christian we can go to heaven with Jesus and escape from going to hell thank you Jesus amen 🙏 share Jesus saves from going to Hell and that Jesus is the only way to Heaven with all
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This is great. God is Jesus' father, Mary is his mother. It's that simple.
No Mary is not his mother!! God has no mother
@@EklegomaiThese pagans and their unbiblical implications. Thank you for the comment 😂
Clement, was Apostle Peters Secretary,
And mentioned in Philippians 4:3 RSV
Phlip.4:3 And I ask you also, true yokefellow, help these women, for they have labored side by side with me in the gospel together with Clement and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life.
Clement of Rome
60-90AD 30+years till martyred.
1 Clement 59:4
"Let all the Gentiles know that Thou art the God alone, and Jesus Christ is Thy Son."
Clement echos Jesus in:
John 17:3
"Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent."
Clement ran the first church however, Polycarp did have some interactions with the apostles also.
Martyrdom of Polycarp (120-140AD)
O Lord God Almighty, Father of your beloved and blessed Son Jesus Christ, through whom we have received knowledge of you, the God of angels and powers and of all creation, and of the whole race of the righteous who live in your presence, I bless you…I glorify you, through the eternal and heavenly high priest, Jesus Christ, your beloved Son, through whom be glory to you, with him and the Holy Spirit, both now and for the ages to come. Amen
Justin First Apology 61* (160AD)
There is pronounced over him who chooses to be born again, and has repented of his sins, the name of God the Father and Lord of the universe; he who leads to the laver the person that is to be washed calling him by this name alone. For no one can utter the name of the ineffable God…And in the name of Jesus Christ, who was crucified under Pontius Pilate, and in the name of the Holy Ghost, who through the prophets foretold all things about Jesus, he who is illuminated is washed.
Martyrdom of Ignatius 2 (120 AD?)
Thou art in error when thou callest the daemons of the nations gods. For there is but one God, who made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that are in them; and one Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, whose kingdom may I enjoy.
Acts 7:55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the "Glory of God,
and 🫴"JESUS STANDING" at the right hand of
👉God. 56 “Look,” he said,"I see heaven open
🫴"The Son of Man, "Standing"
at the right hand 👉of God.”
Unanimously all "9 Authors", of the 27NT books "claim Jesus HAS A GOD"!!
Especially JOHN? 🤯
20+ Times says Jesus sitting at God's right hand.
20+Times NT says GOD Raised Him.
80+ times Jesus is SON OF MAN in NT
40+ times Son-of-God.
Nice vid
Thank you!
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons
@@au8363 not 3 persons ...that's multipersonality
Scripture never says 3 persons
But it does say that the Holy Spirit shed his blood for us
And also says the Father was pierced for us
And also that Jesus will be called the Everlasting Father
So how are they 3 persons....when one person was on the cross
GOD IS A SPIRIT........NOT 3
Hee are Scriptures for support of the truth
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Acts 20:28 KJV
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Zechariah 12:10 KJV
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
John 4:24 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6 KJV
Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
1 John 3:16 KJV
One person and one being on the cross but 3 were there...stop looking through carnal eyes
Can you explain what John 10,29,30.
Yes. I have, and will try to include in a future video. God bless!
Jose Enrique Agutaya after 30 is 31
Plz watch this debate about ONENESS VS TRINITY
ruclips.net/video/Yuwq8-dixt4/видео.html
Rob Garner before I watch this debate you suggested,may I know first are you a trinitarian or oneness believer?
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons.
FATHER=SPIRIT
SON=YESHUA
Plz watch this debate about ONENESS VS TRINITY
ruclips.net/video/Yuwq8-dixt4/видео.html
Correct
@@SpeeADFalse. Chapter and verse that says the Father is exclusively the spirit. The Father is the soul of Christ.
@@_Moses_The_Servant find me in the Bible it says God the Son… God is the Father of of all flesh (Jeremiah 32:27) …. When u read the Bible u can see that THE FATHER HAS ONLY BEEN A SPIRT and that spirit resides in Jesus … which makes Jesus the Father but that Spirit is Christ Spirit
@@SpeeAD You're close. Hey I'm not a Trinitarian by the way. They're deceived. I too believe in the Godhead. However the Jesus is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is Christ pre incarnate, the Word, yet unbegotten by flesh. We are made in the similitude of God. God has a body, soul, and spirit according to 1 Thessalonians 5:23. Now I know the Word was made into flesh (water and blood, 1 John 5) as the Son, we obviously know the Holy Spirit is Christ, unbegotten into flesh. Immortal and omnipresent. The soul (mind, will, and emotions) must be the Father my friend. Intangible, eternal, and invisible.
How can ppl say the spirit is feminine if the book of rev literally makes known to us that the spirit is the 2nd coming of jesus😹🤦🏾♂️
the spirit is the one coming in the clouds. the flesh is the one spreading his gospel. hence they will know that i and the father are 1.
@@greaterthansolomon-vv4ho exactly
John 14 y’all! read it
I like you Pastor Waldron. Lots of oneness people have turned me off with their insistence against the trinity and Jesus name baptism but I like you don’t crucify your Theological opposition
The Wind are they 3 sep things?! So confusing. Whats oneness?
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons
“Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.”
Isaiah 53:10 KJV
You can get into a lot of Trouble trying to explain who died on the cross for our sins. Repent and Believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Galatians 1:8-9
Jesus, God in flesh.
It’s a prophetic word of Gods future incarnation. It pleased the Lord(Spirit) to bruise Him(flesh)
Jesus Is Not The Father
“This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” ~ John 17:3 (also see I Corinthians 8:6, I Timothy 2:5). Question ~ does Jesus have a God? “Jesus said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God”’~ John 20:17 (also see Mark 27:46, Revelation 3:12).
I’ve dealt with sent multiple times in videos on the channel.
Jesus Is Not The Father
The answer is simple.
Jesus prayed carrying us
in His own body as
GOD and man and is
our perfect example
for us to follow Him.
Jesus prayed to GOD
because he is the SON of GOD.
The SON prayed to the FATHER.
The SON is equal to the FATHER
therefore He is GOD also.
Howbeit, the FATHER is still
greater than the SON.
This is deep knowledge
in the WORD of GOD.
Jesus is the only wise God and Saviour and he is known by many names.
The person who is the Son of God is eternal, but he did not become the Son until God, who is a Spirit, was manifested in the flesh at his appointed time.
We do not find these three words set in this order: (God the Son). We do however find these three words set in this order: (Son of God).
If there was a person who was always the (Son of God), and there is not, then this precept we read in Hebrews 1 line 5 would be a lie:
Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Interpretations belong to God and we understand the meaning of the word (Word) in John 1 is found when we rightly divide the word of truth according to 2Timothy 2:15 and Isaiah 28 lines 9 through 13. God's interpretation of the word (Word) in John 1 is the (eternal life of the Father). (The Father's eternal life was with him). (The Father's eternal life was manifested and not some other person). is found in 1John 1 according to):
John 1:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
1John 1:That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
(The (he) that was manifested to take away our sins in 1John 3 line 5 is the (Father) in Hebrews 1 line 1):
1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
(Once again):
1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
(Philip, who was taught by the Creator of the heavens and the earth, at a time did not know the person of God either and the Lord rebuked Philip for not understanding the Lord Jesus is the Father):
John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
(Jesus is the: I Am. Jesus spake these words to Moses and when the eternal life of the Father was manifested in the flesh as the Son of God he also said these words to the Jews who knew not Jesus is the Father):
Exodus 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.
John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
(The Jews did not understand the Lord Jesus is the Father when they asked Jesus, Who art thou?):
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
(Job worshipped God in spirit and in truth and he gave us understanding the 3 names of God we read in 1John 5 line 7 when we read Job 13 lines 6 through 10):
1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Job 13:6 Hear now my reasoning, and hearken to the pleadings of my lips.
7 Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him?
8 Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God?
9 Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him?
10 He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons.
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
1Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Bill we have a bible to read, no need to put all these verses here.
@@Eklegomai Nevertheless, what saith the holy scriptures? (Matthew 4 line 4; Proverbs 22 lines 20,21.).
@@Eklegomai 1Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. 1Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
To the Christians that believe that Jesus is the Father: That interpretation is not backed by scriptures unless you twist it to fit your own understanding..
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father (YAH), the Word(Yahusha/Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Jesus stated my Father is greater than I.
So was Jesus boasting? Because if Jesus is the Father, the verse above means that Jesus was saying "I am greater than myself" that doesn't make sense..
Or how about this when Jesus stated "I have come to the will of my Father"
If Jesus is the Father, shouldn't he have said "I have come to do the will of myself" again, doesn't make sense..
How about the Creation of man in Genesis. "Let 👉US👈 make man in 👉OUR👈 image"
Who is "us" and "our" in that verse? It's a dialogue, not a monologue. "Us" and "our" means more than one person in the discussion.
The answer is simple,
YAH the Father
Yahusha/Jesus the Son/The Word made flesh.
In the beginning was the Word, And the Word was "With" God.
But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”
Is Jesus at the right hand of himself?
Makes no sense
So when Jesus prayed to the Father, he prayed to himself?
In Revelation 5 God went and took the scroll from Himself?
Confusion and chaos comes from the other team. YAH is not the author of confusion, we become confused when we lean on our own understanding and deny the scriptures.
Acts 7:55-56; Romans 8:34; Ephesians 1:20; Colossians 3:1; Hebrews 1:3; Hebrews 8:1; Hebrews 10:12; Hebrews 12:2; 1 Peter 3:22; Revelation 3:21; Matthew 22:44; Acts 2:33
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons
"my God my God why hast thou forsaken me?" This is from the man on the cross's point of view. But Zechariah 12:10 is that same situation, but from God's point of view. Muslims bring this up to me all the time, and Zechariah 12:10 is my response. The "me" and "him" are clearly the same person! Gets em every time. Also, shows how Jesus is the Father!
I love the truth that God is only one(person) Gal. 3:20 amp.
Amen!
God is TRIUNE not just one person but 3 in one.
It wouldn't make sense for jesus to pray to himself on olive Mountain to submit his spirit to himself, and to not know the hour but himself. And to get baptised and speak from heaven while also manifesting as a dove to land on himself. Our God is one indeed but he is tripersonal ( one essence and 3 persons that are united in their distinct roles). Our God is Love, it's always been his nature thus, from eternity past before everything, he has always been love because he's always been performing the action of love within the community of the trinity. Otherwise, his love would've been contingent upon his creation. Love is an action not just a dispositional quality like mercy, forgiveness..etc.
Now, if god is trinity because of his nature of love then why 3 and not 4,100, or infinite persons?
A/ the reason is because there can only be 3 different and qualitatively better forms of love. 1. Self love ( the father) 2-shared love( love shared between the father and the son jesus). 3- cooperative love( the father and son share a cooperative love with the holy spirit). The need for an extra being is beyond necessity because there won't be a qualitatively better forms of love but a duplication of cooperative love. These 3 forms of love can be seen in creation. (Husband , wife and their son)
Ik the word trinity is not mentioned in the bible but neither is omnipresent and omniscient and omnipotent but, does that mean that god is neither of these adjectives. NO
Trinity does not mean 3 Gods but One in 3 persons.
There are plenty of verses that support the trinity of god.
Gen1 the word for god use is elohim-->gods.
When jesus prophesied of the coming of the holly spirit he said ANOTHER comforter not DIFFERENT. Another is only applied for a person not an impersonal force.
There many more evidence from the bible that god is 3 persons in one. Just where have u come with such confusion and twisting of scripture!!
@@rlg6728 you’ve clearly haven’t done your research if you still believe in a triune God. That concept was created by the church fathers after adopting Greek philosophy from Philo of Alexandria and paganism. Every pagan society contained a trinity and in order to please the pagans or gain their acceptance of Christianity they syncretized the Greek belief that God and His Word and wisdom are separate entities and made them into persons. The trinity doctrine was adopted in the council of Nicaea in 325 AD and finalized in the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD
When God was manifested in the flesh as a man, called the Son of man and the Son of God, he being in the flesh was required to pray and yet when he prayed, his prayer returned to his own bosom because the Son of God is the same person as the Father: 1Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Psalm 65:2 O thou that hearest prayer,
unto thee shall all flesh come. Psalm 35:13 But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father,
The Prince of Peace.
@@viviennebaptiste Then why are WE 3 in 1 (Body, Soul, Spirit) and why does 1 John 5:7-8 say what it says? Please explain.
1 John 5:7-8
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Nice job, Pastor. It's great to see wise Christians preaching this Truth. Another great passage proof text is John 14:21-23 tied to Romans 8:9-11. Jesus shows that He IS the Holy Spirit. He doesn't even mention any third person and He makes clear that He and the Father are ONE individual. The Romans passage declares Christ to BE the Holy Spirit and adds that the Father is ALSO the Spirit when it refers to the Spirit of God.
None of this allows for ANY definition/explanation of the trinity. All of these verses must be completely ignored/denied for someone to accept and embrace a doctrine of a three-person god.
God is ONE individual person that is a spirit. John 4:24 God Almighty indwelled Jesus Christ's physical body and at Christ's Crucifixion, when His heart was pierced by the Roman soldier, it is revealed that He bled blood AND WATER. John 19:34 Water represents the Spirit of God and is spoken of many times, many ways all the way back to the rock that gushed water in the desert for the Israelites.
Many will claim that He didn't BLEED water, but that it was just fluid from around His heart that had accumulated due to his suffering. We know this isn't the case because the passage clearly states that it was so shocking to the Roman soldier, who would've seen and done this many times, that he bore witness to it. Why would it say that if what happened was perfectly normal?
God bless.
Amen!
Jesus Is Not The Father
@@au8363 The Father Himself claims to be Jesus all throughout Isaiah 40-48. Isaiah told us, about a thousand years prior to Christ's incarnation, that Christ WOULD BE the Father in the flesh. Isaiah 9:6.
Warm regards from Indonesia
Thank you!
Christianity is false. My channel debunks Christianity.
Question... where does your "1/3rd of gods angels fell" ??
Revelation 12
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons.
1 Corinthians 8 v 6 but unto us there is BUT 1 GOD, the FATHER, of whom are all things and we in him; AND 1 Lord JESUS Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
In proverbs 8 v 22- 30 who is LORD? and who is me?
Well one is a woman.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa 1 day soon you will find out whose the joke, it's you thats preaching a 100% false gospel, YHWH sent his only begotten SON JESUS/ YAHSHUA , that's it. There is no 3rd person or woman in GODS council, that's a straight out lie!!!
There is NO mother in heaven, just a father and a son!
No where does it talk about a mother in heaven, that's anti biblical catholic nonsense, your imagination is running wild, your hypocrisy knows no limits truely you are of your fathers, the devil!!
Your despicable, you change his words for your own pleasure, and you lead people astray so I will remind your ignorant ass the bible clearly says anyone selling a false religion that leads others away, the blood will be required from the one who did the deceiving, in other words you will be held accountable and punished for leading others astay!
Christ is Father to those who love His Father
I'm a father, son, brother etc but don't talk to myself as son to father or father to son nor converse in any role as myself with any of my other roles.
Correct. Here, it is Incarnation speaking to Deity. 1 Timothy 2:5
you’re not God and can’t comprehend God. it’s just a analogy not a actual son
@@greaterthansolomon-vv4ho When Jesus says "Father, glorify me in your presence with
the glory I had wih you before the world began.(John 17:5), for that to mean he was the plan of salvation in God's mind simply does not convey the true meaning of glory and is just one of the twists that shows your doctrine originated in the mind of man.
@@greaterthansolomon-vv4ho but I can understand scripture 1 John 5:20
Good video. I believe that Jesus and God the Father are the same person.
But can you explain Daniel 7:13
"son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence."
The answer is actually later in the chapter explaining who this is speaking of. I need to make another video on that. I think I’ve explained it in a couple but I can’t remember which ones.
John 20 (KJV)
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²⁸ And Thomas answered and said unto him(JESUS), MY LORD and MY GOD.
²⁹ JESUS saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST! “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith THE LORD, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY.”
- Revelation 1:8 (KJV)WE SEE THE ALMIGHTY FATHER GOD TELLING ABRAHAM WHO HE IS ..ONLY 1 ALMIGHTY FATHER GOD WHO IS IN SON AS REVEALED IN REVELATIONS!
It is unfortunate that you still do not understand the basic and you are teaching people.
I hope and pray for your salvation to find out who is Jesus
Jesus is the Father’s representive
No doubt. His express Image. The Father in Flesh.
When you’ve seen Jesus, you’ve seen the Father.
New Life Of Albany Ga. yes, he is not the Father himself but his representative
@@josephjones4207 if he's a representative of God then he's not God.
@@josephjones4207 what do you not understand about the prophecy of Isaiah 9:6 where says He shall be called the everlasting Father, Almighty God? If Jesus is not the Father, Almighty God as Isaiah said, then the prophecy was a lie. You are preaching a different gospel, not the gospel of God. You sound more like a Mormon. The name Jesus means Yahweh Saviour.
The main Question is , most people ask is - Is Jesus GOD, (does this mean the Father ) ? Jesus the Son of man, Jesus Son of God . To me , Its about His Humanity, (Son of man ) and Diety ( Son of God ) or the Father - meaning of Son - Who He is
Claiming "Trinity" is not in the Bible to refute its teaching is lame, as "Oneness" is not in the Bible either. Nobody said "Trinity" is in the bible. It is used by theologians to describe the teachings of Scripture about Godhead and the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
I have only refuted this argument an untold number of times...
I get that I'm a son, and a father my self but I am not a son and a father to my daughter; I am a son to my dad and a father to my daughter. So how is Jesus a son and a father to himself? Almost equally confusing as the trinity
Very smart question, lol. The answer is quite simple. We are trying to understand God without actually meeting him in person and then trying to teach people about him🥴. try explaining the color blue to someone. Now imagine never seeing that color and trying to imagine it. Can we see how confusing this can get 😅. The bible simply gives us a God head and I'm convinced there's definitely three different persons when it comes to God. How, I have now idea.
@@theonekeanu8920 it's actually alot simpler; jesus is the son of God the messiah. Not God. John 17:3
@@theonekeanu8920Amen
So who did Jesus pray to when he was praying to th father? Was he praying too himself and tricking those around him? Who was the voice who said “this is my son in whom I am well pleased”, while Jesus was being baptized? Coming from the sky and for everyone present to hear. Why does genesis refer to plural when saying let “US”, make man in “Our” image? Why does Jesus state referring to born again believers that He and the father will come and abode within they’re hearts? You mislead the comment about Jesus sitting on his throne in heaven. Jesus does have a throne and is often mentioned. It also mentions Jesus taking the scroll that only he the Lamb of God is worthy to look upon and open, from God sitting on his throne. Are you saying they are the same person and entity?
I’ve done so many videos answering your specific questions. God bless!
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons .
So, do you understand it as 3 beings and 1 person?
You don’t either. That makes no sense
Nope. Only one person. Jesus Christ. Jesus IS the Father.
John 14:8-9
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
@@erbconsult
I tend to agree with you. Jesus is the Father and the Holly Spirit. The fulness of God is not in the universe as he existed before it. God enters the universe as Jesus and acts upon it as the Holly Spirit. That's why I'm considering God as one person with 3 bodies, beings.
Plz watch this debate about ONENESS VS TRINITY
ruclips.net/video/Yuwq8-dixt4/видео.html
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons
Here is the reason:
I: "Dear Jesus, who is the omnipotent God?"
Jesus: "The Father seeks such people to worship Him. God is a spirit."
I: "I see: you mean that your Father is the omnipotent God and that He is a spirit, ONE spirit. Crystal clear: this means that God is just a spirit and not THREE IN ONE as generally claimed !"
I: "But if your Father is now a spirit, was He ALWAYS a spirit ?"
Jesus: "O righteous Father, the world has not known you...no one has ever seen God"
I: "Yes, I can figure out: your Father only existed in the past, this is why He is only a spirit now! This is why you "inherited" the reign of God (The Father loves the Son and has given ALL THINGS into His hand.)
I: "Well, how could we call now "God who is a spirit"? But of course: "the Spirit of God" ! Now I understand why "John saw the Spirit of God" (the Spirit of your Father) descend as a dove and say "you are my beloved Son.... !"
I: "But WHERE is your Father, the almighty God now? God cannot die or disappear, of course !"
Jesus :"He who has seen me has seen the Father"
I: " So is it: you were the Father, you were Him! "Son" only means that you COME from the Father, not that you are like a real Son! But what is the difference between you and your Father ?"
Jesus: "I can do nothing on my own"
I: " I see: this means that you lost your power in order to become like a normal man! This of course means that for any miracle you must turn to the Father, who now works here in the form of a spirit"
I: " Well we could say that you are not the omnipotent God anymore but also that you are not distinct from Him..."
Jesus: "the Father is in me and I am in the Father".
Who was with God since the beginning? John 1:1 and the Word was with God 2 This one was in the beginning with God. John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time; the "only-begotten" god(Jesus) who is at the Father’s side(Jehovah/YHWH) is the one WHO HAS EXPLAINED "HIM".
(only-begotten:(of a child) being the only offspring of its father.)
JOHN 5:26 For just as the Father has life in himself, SO HE HAS GRANTED "ALSO" TO THE SON to have life in himself.
Explained who?
Matthew 11:27 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son IS WILLING TO REVEAL HIM.
Reveal who?
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of HEAVEN AND EARTH, because YOU have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Revelation 14:7 He was saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived, so worship THE ONE who made the HEAVEN AND THE HEARTH AND THE SEA AND THE SPRINGS OF WATER.”
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The word in the beginning was not a son either does it say it anywear. The word WITH means to tell you that you cannot seperate God from his word. His word became flesh. Jesus. Jesus is the word that is now a son of God because he was born from a woman but that's just another title like prince of peace and everlasting father. Not everlasting son. Jesus was not in the beginning. In the beginning was the word that was with and was 1 God Not 2 gods.
You can't separate God and god's word. So if god's word became flesh and was Jesus Christ...
Then how can you in any time separate the word from God?
You can't separate jesus from god cause jesus is god full Godhead embodiment Colossians 2:9. Jesus is the only 1 you see sitting on the throne.
@@upclosepersonal
"He who sees me SEES HIM who sent me." i.e. Jesus HAD BEEN that almighty God. The almighty God has been able to do ALL his work in the past, everything. Our whole future was known to God, so that it was like SET IN STONE. That ONE future is simply coming true now, even with our free will. After doing his work the God's power was set for good to make that one future true so that it was no longer necessary in God's hands. He could get rid of that power to become like a normal man: the Son of God. The Son of God is now the ONLY KING of heaven and is able to decide what He likes, with free will. However He is not almighty.
If you say Jesus is God as in not the Father God, then I can agree but if you say that Father came down and was born by the Virgin Mary then it's confusing.
Coz that makes the Bible contradict itself.
Not really
Does they are ONE mean anything to you... or do u think one means more than one...smh..
God said, when a man and woman unite in marriage they become one flesh. Obviously they are still separate. Also, Jesus declared that believers in him join him and He in them and become one, even as Jesus and the father are one. Your trying to compare things with a human limited mind. Obviously it has deeper meanings. This guys teaching is suggesting, that only God. Single entity existed, them later in time, he caused Jesus to be born. Start his existence, which is completely false.
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons.
God is a Spirit, a Holy Spirit. We know Job worshipped God in spirit and in truth and Job gave the interpretation of 1John 5 line 7 knowing these three are on person. The 3 names are the names of Jesus, the blessed and only Potentate and Jesus reproved Philip for not knowing Jesus is the Father:
1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Job 13:7 Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him?
8 Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God?
9 Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him?
10 He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons.
John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
God is one God.
Thank you so much!
@Nenethegreat W One person. God is one person. The Lord thy God is a person. Job understood God to be a person and Job worshipped God in spirit and in truth.
Here Jesus makes a clear distinction between him and God:
Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me
If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. John 716-17
Jesus Is Not The Father
Dennis Prager says that Jews are similar to Christians because they have a trinity also. But he explains the Jewish trinity is God, Torah, and Israel. That is certainly not a trinity is the person of God.
Interesting!
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons
Here is to clarify the True one God of the Bible. God is The Father. He has a literal son, Jesus Christ who was begotten. At some point in eternity Jesus christ was begotten, he was also slain in eternity. Jesus and God have a father-son relationship in all the fullness of what we can imagine a loving Father and Son relationship to be since we are made in Gods Image. This is why when God sacrificed his Son Jesus it shows how much he loves Human beings. Jesus is also God, and he is the complete God and Man. The Holy Spirit is also God. God is three people but one. This is a divine mystery. Jesus is the literal son of God. Adam was also the son of God but he was not begotten of God, Adam was created from the Dust and never received Gods Spirit (the Holy Spirit). Christians are born-again Holy Spirit filled sons of God. They have the same nature as Jesus christ. Jesus is both Man and God, he even bares his scars from his crucifixion eternally. Jesus and all his Disciples are literal sons and daughters of God the Father. Anyone who does not have the Holy Spirit indwelling in them is not a child of God the Father. Now here is when the divine mystery gets more mysterious. Jesus of Nazereth is also... *drumm roll*... God the Father, The Holy Spirit and the Son of God. Jesus is 100 % the complete Triune God. This is the Truth that the Bible reveals. Infact the Bible reveals that the Last Adam (Jesus the Son of God ) became a life-giving spirit (1 Corinthians 15:45). So actually Jesus Christ became the Holy spirit which gives Life.
Now this is a side note and not really related: Jesus Christ incarnated on earth , lived a sinless life, obeyed God the Father completley and thus was able to meet all the requirements for the perfect sacrifice on the Cross to defeat the powers of Satan. There was no other way for us to inherit eternal life. This is also a divine mystery. God literally created human beings as a way to defeat Satan. The battle between God and Evil is based on principles. Satan has principles and so does God. Satans objective is to challenge God, to question his ways and ultimatley to try and get all the Angels and supernatural beings to rebel against God and not worship him and trust in his ways. God created man, to show all the supernatural creatures what happens when he puts His Spirit in Man. That Man, will fight, Chose Good and Defeat Evil to the Glory of God the Father and to Show the angels and supernatural creatures(who christians will eventually judge on judgement day) that God is worth worshipping, following and trusting. Christians live on the Word of God trusting it. We are the only creatures in the universe that will trust God, to even give us eternal life and even lay down our lives like our Lord Jesus did based on what is written in a book. We do this by faith. Jesus is the author and perfector of our Faith. He trusted God even until death... he had his moment of weakness when he thought God the Father Forsook him on the cross, he also had is weakness in the Garden of Gethsemane when he asked God if there was any other way than to be crucified, but God showed his faithfulness by Resurrecting him from the dead and crowning him King of the Universe. Even the angels will praise Jesus for who he is, and how he deals with evil. He is the Prince of Peace. Bringing Peace in the supernatural realms by the laying down of his life and obeying God even if it means death. Satan and all his rebellious followers including the humans who are not chosen by God to have his spirit live inside him will be thrown into the Lake of Fire. This is also a divine mystery because God wants all men to be saved... its just that somehow Satan is able to drag alot of humans down with him by blinding them to the truth. God cant break his principles. He wants all men to be saved but they can only be saved if Christians do their best to preach the gospel to everyone. This is important. Christians need to dedicate their lives to the preaching of the Gospel.
I believe in the holy trinity and that Jesus is Lord but why do people call Jesus the father if he’s the son???
Jesus Is Not The Father
Time stamp: 11:56 "The sonship of Jesus refers to his incarnation" this is complete error. An "only begotten son" cannot be created. In short: What man creates is not man, what man begets is man. What God creates is not God, what God beggets is God. For example: if John created a statue, that statue is not John's son. In the same way: if God creates a human body, soul and nature: that creation is NOT GOD.
your definition of sonship is putside the definition of begotten
How does Oneness explain Hebrews 1:8-9?
I did a vid on that recently.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I don't see it.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Where is the video?
Plz watch this debate about ONENESS VS TRINITY
ruclips.net/video/Yuwq8-dixt4/видео.html
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I totally agree with you, Pastor. That LORD JESUS CHRIST is our FATHER. But I have a question about your opinion. When do you think GOD beget JESUS CHRIST as THE SON of GOD? Was it before the creation of the world or when GOD incarnates as a human into the world? Thanks!
Luke 1:35
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Thank you!
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons.
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Revelation 21:7. NKJV
"He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his GOD and he shall be MY son."
Revelation 21:7. New Living Translation
"All who are victorious will inherit all these blessings, and I will be their GOD, and they will be MY children."
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Isaiah 9:6. NKJV
For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Matthew 22:41-46 KJV - While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.
Only a few would understand the significance of this passage of the scripture.
FATHER = SPIRIT = UNSEEN
SON = FLESH AS HUMAN KIND = SEEN
HOLY SPIRIT = WORKER = UNSEEN
Therefore when God said 'Let there be light'. What happened was that the Father which is unseen/spirit spoke the word 'let there be light' which is Jesus. This means 'let there be light' is Jesus which is the spirit's word.
Now it's upto the light to shine which the holy spirit walks or flies to switch on the light. That is all
Jesus Is Not The Father
That's a really good message brother i always have people asking me those questions and i don't know much but i always give them Isaiah 44:6 and how Jesus is Jehovah also Revelation 1:11 or Revelation 1:17 clearly Jehovah said he is the first and last and Jesus said the same thing to John the Apostle that he is the first and last
Also compare Daniel 7:9 (KJV) 9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
With Revelation 1:13-14 (KJV) 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Also the last chapter of Revelation confirms that Jesus is the same Lord God of the holy prophets from the Old Testament.
John 8:23-24 KJVS
[23] And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. [24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he , ye shall die in your sins.
Isaiah 43:10-11 KJVS
[10] Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord , and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. [11] I, even I, am the Lord ; and beside me there is no saviour.
wilbert ines cuellar Who is god and who is Jesus? Proverbs 30:4 Who has ascended to heaven and then descended?Who has established all the ends of the earth? - What is his name and the name of his son-if you know? --
5 Every saying of God is refined.He is a shield to those taking refuge in him. 6 Add nothing to his words,Or he will reprove you,And you will be proved a liar
And the word is truth and the truth came thanks to Jesus the son of God to reveal God: our celestial father.
Who was with God since the beginning? John 1:1 and the Word was with God 2 This one was in the beginning with God. John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time; the "only-begotten" god(Jesus) who is at the Father’s side(Jehovah/YHWH) is the one WHO HAS EXPLAINED "HIM".
(only-begotten:(of a child) being the only offspring of its father.)
JOHN 5:26 For just as the Father has life in himself, SO HE HAS GRANTED "ALSO" TO THE SON to have life in himself.
Explained who?
Matthew 11:27 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son IS WILLING TO REVEAL HIM.
Reveal who?
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of HEAVEN AND EARTH, because YOU have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Revelation 14:7 He was saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived, so worship THE ONE who made the HEAVEN AND THE HEARTH AND THE SEA AND THE SPRINGS OF WATER.”
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@@fidelfolozanoiii4499 the answer to the question (what is his name and what is his son's name) in Proverbs 30 line 4 is JESUS.
Proverbs 30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
Ephesians 4:9-10
(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? [10] He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
1 Kings 20:28
And there came a man of God, and spake unto the king of Israel, and said, Thus saith the LORD, Because the Syrians have said, The LORD is God of the hills, but he is not God of the valleys, therefore will I deliver all this great multitude into thine hand, and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Jeremiah 23:23-24
Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?
[24] Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.
John 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
1 John 5:20-21
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
[21] Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
1 Timothy 6:14-16
That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[15] Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
[16] Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Revelation 1:7-8
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
[8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
John 8:24-27
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
[25] Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
[26] I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
[27] They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
Praise God amen, thank God for his word, it was settled in heaven to be forever.we Christian because we are a worshipper and follower of Christ Jesus our Lord, amen, there are so many profess Christian today they are not sure who they worship and served, apostles Paul said’ I know whom I believe’ The only God he served is Christ , to live or die . Paul declares the mystery of godliness, God was manifested in the flesh, as Christ taught the apostles, ( he that hath seen me hath seen the Father) why are we contradict of the apostles teaching and the teaching of Christ, as Christ says my sheep shall hear my voice and come, the question to ask. Am I the sheep belong to Jesus Christ? Or I belong to deferent ideology? I know the Jews rejected Christ Jesus, because they followed the tradition of man and not of the scriptures. The Moslem has been denied the scriptures and mixed with Jews tradition. And the other religion with their confusing. But the world of Christianity is so vast, but the scriptures taught that we may come to the unity of faith in the knowledge of Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour, amen, we dumped the doctrine of the trinity because it begins with murdered Christian to believe their trinity doctrine. The very foundation of triune God, it was wavering as you see, Christ didn’t teach the apostles to go to all the world and preach the gospel to every creature, he that believe not kill them, burn them with fire, feeding them the beast and confiscated their property. The spirit call, come out from among them and be separated for me . Well the end of the matter is your decision to make, you want to continue in lie or follow Christ and be saved, amen. Christ says, ‘I am the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive, amen, and still people not believe that Christ Jesus is the only True God our Father. Amen,
How do you explain the fact that Jesus said Father why have you forsaken me? If Jesus is the word of God then why would he ask such a question?
I’ve done a video on that. God bless!
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I will tell you why you can't be right. Jesus said he didn't know the time or the hour, only the Father knew. If he didn't know the time or the hour, yet he was God, then he would be lying.
Psalms 22. Messianic song “they pierce my hands and my feet.”
Nenethegreat W No. This is exactly what he said: “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but only the FATHER.” -Mark 13:32
I have heard that same rationale for the trinity so many times. That a limited human mind cannot explain the details of a Holy trinity. But the concept of the trinity is in fact, never mentioned in the bible, created by the church, and is found in many pagan religious doctrines.
Jesus also had a will that was separate from his Father’s although he claimed to always do his Father’s will. “Not my will but your will be done”
If Jesus is Yahweh then
A. He would know the day of his own return and
B. He would not have a desire to do something contrary to his own will.
Google the Johannine comma
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons .
I am prepairing for a debate tomorrow on Facebook. I'm a Trinitarian and my opponent is a Oneness Pentecostal who'll be arguing that the Father was manifeseted in flesh. Would you be willing to debate me on thhis topic. By the way Trinitarians don't beleive in separate persons, they believe in distinct persons.
Oi vey the semantics...
So many people think Jesus is God the father but forget that Jesus told the pharisees they would see him again standing next to the fathers throne to his right, you also forget Jesus admits he can do nothing without the father for he only does as he sees the father do, you guys also forget Jesus said that when he judges he's not alone that the father is with him, you forget Jesus also said that I and the father are one, that didn't mean that jesus is just the father in the flesh! When Jesus said he and the father are one he meant how they are one in nature, one with how they think, love, show mercy and grace! Your child doesn't just remind people of you by how they look but also how they act at times which can remind people of you making you guys one. To say different is saying that the new testament which is about the son of God is a lie, it's like saying God lied to us and pretended to be his own son making him a liar and a sinner, so if the new testament is about the son of God being our lord and savior and the father giving his only begotten son the world, then why would God perpetrate his only begotten son? There seems to be enough proof out the mouth of Jesus that says they aren't the same being, Jesus is the son of GOD and i believe my bible don't lie when it says jesus is the son of God! To say different means jesus lied and god lied about his only begotten son and that all these scriptures are a lie! The difference between me and your kind is i believe God really sent his ONLY begotten son, NOT THE FATHER IN THE FLESH, you guys think God was jesus in the flesh which is technically saying your god lied about having a son and perpetrated him in the flesh! Also if man was created yet and his soul wasn't created until God breathed the breath of Life into his nostrils, plus angels aren't in God's Image so who was God talking to when he said LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE? You'll also notice in proverbs it mentions the son of God showing their not the same being!
Genesis 1:27 KJV - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Proverbs 30:3-4 KJV - I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy. Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
John 1:18 KJV - No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 3:16-18 KJV - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Hebrews 11:17 KJV - By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
1 John 4:9 KJV - In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
Hebrews 12:2 KJV - Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
John 5:19 KJV - Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
John 8:16 KJV - And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
John 14:10 KJV - Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 8:18 KJV - I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
John 17:1 through 5 KJV - These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
1 Timothy 2:4 through 6 KJV - Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Matthew 28:18 KJV - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Galatians 1:1 KJV - Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
John 5:18 KJV - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
1 John 2:22 KJV - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Ephesians 4:13 KJV - Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Luke 18:19 KJV - And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
I said it before and I'll say it again, I believe God sent his only begotten son and gave him the world, you guys believe God the father was Jesus in the flesh, technically meaning your God perpetrated his own son in the flesh! either you believe God sent his only begotten son or you believe he was perpetrating his only begotten son in the flesh, which is it?
John 14:9 & Isaiah 9:6:
He who sees me sees the father; therefore, how can you say show us the father? He shall be called everlasting father.
@@j.j.w.0.0.w a son better look like his father or I question who his daddy really is and that still don't mean Jesus is the father in the flesh
I’m confused about John 14:28 or even when he prayed to the father. Since Jesus is the father
I did a video about that. Flesh to Spirit.
New Life Of Albany Ga. is that the title because I can’t find it. Can you just put the link here when you find it thanks:)
Thank you thank youuuuuuu
God cannot pray to himself. It says itself in the bible , Jesus asked God , ... Jesus did not talk to himself!! Youre right. God does not have a gender so how did Jesus become a male. Is the nan even replicating Adam as God! Cmon
Tom Bladecki ur atheism aka bigbang sux!
He isn't. Jesus clearly said "Do not call me good. There is only one who is good and He is in Heaven." He also said "Do not call me Father. There is only one Father and He is in Heaven."
Where is that last Scripture found?
He also said the Father was in Him. The Father is Omnipresent. God bless!
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa the father is in Jesus. Jesus is not the father. Father is always the father not the son. Your doctrine is very bad.
@@raymarobedoza3461 Isaiah 9:6, John 14:7-11, Colossians 2:9
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him, And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1 John 3:24
If God dwelling or abiding in Christ means that he is God, what does this scripture say about us? Similar language is used in John 10:38. John 10:37-38 says," If I do not the works of my Father , believe me not.
👉🏽But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. (This is how he describes "I and my Father are one")
Question: Did God give Jesus his Spirit? Yes, John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
Again, And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him, And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1 John 3:24
Also,
No man hath seen God at anytime. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
Hereby know we that we dwell in him and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 1John 4:12-13
I am not saying that we are God but that we need to make sure that we are rightly dividing the word of truth. 🙏🏽
What a about the vir that thee is One Elohim Fathera and His Son?
Where?
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons.
In reference to “the right hand of God” Stephen says in Acts 7:54-56 “When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.” Sir this man literally SAW 👀 Jesus STANDING ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, you can’t stand beside yourself come on Sir what you are teaching is confusing that will cause a spiritual headache, your explanation for your why’s and How’s is not supported by scripture
The Humanity in the Glory of God.
The term " right hand of God" is figurative for the position of Gods' power. Where else could that be but on Gods' throne ? That's why the Pharisees were mad enough to stone him because he was telling them that Jesus was God.
@@robertnieten7259 right on.
This is still confusing to me especially the way you explained My God, My God why hath Thou forsaken me.
But it also makes sense when you say that the sonship of Jesus Christ started when he was made man.
And I also belive that the reason why Jesus Christ was referring the praise to the Fathers on Heaven it's because that He in human form isn't omniscient and omniscient amd He knows that He was going to die, so He must glory to God the Father Almighty with Him. If at all they're the same.
▪︎ Also you mentioned a value point that how can Jesus seat at the Father's right hand if God Almighty himself is a spirit and have mo flesh and bone.?
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God is TRIUNE not just one person but 3 in one.
It wouldn't make sense for jesus to pray to himself on olive Mountain to submit his spirit to himself, and to not know the hour but himself. And to get baptised and speak from heaven while also manifesting as a dove to land on himself. Also, who sustained and maintained existence when jesus died and why would he need to manifest in 3 characters.
Our God is one indeed but he is tripersonal ( one essence and 3 persons that are united in their distinct roles). Our God is Love, it's always been his nature thus, from eternity past before everything, he has always been love because he's always been performing the action of love within the community of the trinity. Otherwise, his love would've been contingent upon his creation. Love is an action not just a dispositional quality like mercy, forgiveness..etc.
Now, if god is trinity because of his nature of love then why 3 and not 4,100, or infinite persons?
A/ the reason is because there can only be 3 different and qualitatively better forms of love. 1. Self love ( the father) 2-shared love( love shared between the father and the son jesus). 3- cooperative love( the father and son share a cooperative love with the holy spirit). The need for an extra being is beyond necessity because there won't be a qualitatively better forms of love but a duplication of cooperative love. These 3 forms of love can be seen in creation. (Husband , wife and their son)
Ik the word trinity is not mentioned in the bible but neither is omnipresent and omniscient and omnipotent but, does that mean that god is neither of these adjectives. NO
Trinity does not mean 3 Gods but One in 3 persons.
There are plenty of verses that support the trinity of god.
Jesus prayer is acknowledged even by trinitarians to be the Humanity praying to Deity.
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Jesus in his human nature submits and prays to the father who is not jesus.
Notice when jesus says " give me the same glory i had WITH you before the world existed" he didn't say the glory that i had as a diety but the glory that he in his divine nature shared with his father who is not him. Consider john 1:1 " in the beginning was the WORD and the word was with God and the word was god"
Jesus the son existed from eternity past without his human nature with both the father and the spirit. They are distinct to one another and yet they are united in their equal divinity and roles.
The father's role is the thinker, he's the one who thought of creation and salvation. Jesus is the word and the word is what brings about the thoughts in other words, through him the thought become and action. He's the one through him the world was created and he performed the action salvation. The spirit's role is carrying out the work of the father and the son. Because god is love, he's always been love before creation due to to his triune nature. The father is a lover, the son is a loved one and the spirit is a spirit of love.
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Who was praying to who in John 17?
The Son to the Father. Flesh to Deity. God, by very definition, doesn’t need to pray.
So according to your answer the flesh says to deity ““And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”
John 17:5
You still claim the flesh prayed this? Did the flesh exist with the deity before the world was? If not why would the flesh (according to your answer) pray this?
In your answer there are two options I can see (unless you start to change your answer) is that the flesh did exist prior to creation or the flesh is lying about being with the deity prior to creation.
How was He slain before the foundation of the world? There’s your answer.@@EhronRHG
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa that’s a question. Not an answer.
Do you claim that the humanity prayed John 17:5. Yes or no?
Of course, as do all orthodox Trinitarians basically.@@EhronRHG
I've been so confused lately
I'm eager to Know if the Trinity
God the Father Almighty
God the son
And God the Holy sprit
Are co-equal God or there's difference.
I first thought that they're different
ie the Father is greater than the son
But I also watched a video saying that They're the same, that Jesus Christ gave his omniscient and omnipresence to be fully human. That also leads me to believe that They're co-equal.
But I discussed this with my Dad to learn more from him but he refused and say that They're not co-equal. That the father is never equal to the son.
So I thought about it and think about a triangle that has 3 points the Top point is separated from the two bottom sides so I lean towards the point that They're different and the Father is definitely greater than the Son.
But now watching this video I've leaned towards the point that They might be coequal God as I learnt from you that sonship obviously refers to His earthly beginning and humanity. So in that case Jesus can still be God the father and God the Son.
● It's also stated in the Bible in Isaiah 9:6
King James Version
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
The MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER.
How can the Son be called the everlasting Father if he the Son, that's stated in the Bible.
I've been really confused and not sure which direction I should lead to, whether God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the same, (Co equal God) or that there's difference between The Father, the son and the Holy Spirit.
I'm also very scared not to blaspheme or to chose one side and be wrong.
I hope that God Almighty will forgive me and whatever direction I lead towards I pray that, it won't stop me from entering the Kingdom of God.
In Jesus Christ mighty name I pray, Amen.
God bless you as you read this comment. Amen.
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Colossians Chapter1 verse15 "He(JESUS) is the first born of creation"
This could confirm that GOD started to take the form of THE SON of GOD before the creation of the world.
@7Hockage I believe that JESUS is THE FATHER. The bible confirms that. Plenty of verses in fact validates this. But what I'm still not sure about now is, when was GOD begat JESUS? Was it before the creation of the world or when HE incarnated as a human?
@7Hockage I believe that JESUS is THE FATHER since eternity. But what I believe about THE SONSHIP is HIS status as THE SON OF GOD has a beginning. As the word of GOD says so:
“I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”
Psalm 2:7
“For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?”
Hebrews 1:5
@7Hockage I believe in the holy trinity and that Jesus is Lord but why do people call Jesus the father if he’s the son???
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons .
The (these three are one) in 1John 5 line 7 are 3 names of one person.
God is a Spirit. The word (a) is singular.
God is known by many names and he is one person.
Interpretations belong to God and we find the interpretation of 1John 5 line 7 in Job 13 lines 6 through 10.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Job 13:6 Hear now my reasoning, and hearken to the pleadings of my lips.
7 Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him?
8 Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God?
9 Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him?
10 He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons.
Fyi, Gods not God. Elohim in hebrew means Gods in english. The translation made it one God instead of one Gods.
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons
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Christianity from the beginning has taught one God in three persons, so what religion do you preach ?
Really? Most theologians would strongly disagree with you both Biblically and historically.
I teach New Testament Christianity, Lord willing. God bless!
Here are some theologians that disagree, I can send the actual references sorry I made a coment. so yes God Bless you, , just a simple non pastor sorry I interjected myself into your life.Sources " The Letter of Barnabas A.D. 74, Ignatius of Antioch 110,
Justin Martyr 155, Mathetes 160, Irenaeus 189, Tertullian 216, Novatian 235, Gregory the Wonderworker 262, Methodius 305, Athanasius 360, Fulgentius of Ruspe 513. the Nicene and Apostle Creed.
It apepars that one early group taught Sabellianism but they were condemn as heretics..
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Actually the early Christian never believed in a triune God, they knew that God was one and not three.
That is not true at all my friend. Paul who was one of the first Christians who wrote 1/3 of the New Testament never once preached 1 God in 3 persons or trinity. That false doctrine came later on, but it was NEVER so from the beginning. Whether you want to admit it or not, to say 3 persons is to say 3 individuals that make up a council called God. This is not at all Biblical and this heresy wasn't even taught in the Old Testament.
There is only 1 individual who is God and He is the Father of all creation who by His own Spirit---Himself---became a man in order to redeem His Children/bride. Truly our Father has become our Savior---our Salvation----Jesus---Yahweh Our Salvation. I believed the trinity for many years because that is what I was taught---all I knew, but once I began to look deeper, put pride aside, and seek God to show me truth He did. Sometimes we need to put aside all that men taught us and get on our face before God and cry out to Him for truth/revelation so that our eyes will be open.
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
( John 8 : 24 KJV )
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.👀
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
( John 14 : 6 - 10 KJV )
Heb 1;2
Wow...
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons
Then why are WE 3 in 1 (Body, Soul, Spirit) and why does 1 John 5:7-8 say what it says? Please explain.
1 John 5:7-8
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
You are 1 person with one name. Adam was one, created in the image of God. And I have done at least 9 different videos on 1 John 5:7 from various perspectives.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I know I am 1 with one name. That’s the same as God. That’s what I’m saying he has 3 parts but is 1.
@@jacob777jacob I’m thankful you agree with the Scriptural example. So many don’t.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa No problem. I like learning. 🙂
@@jacob777jacob Amen! Me too!
Who is god and who is Jesus? Proverbs 30:4 Who has ascended to heaven and then descended?Who has established all the ends of the earth? - What is his name and the name of his son-if you know? --
5 Every saying of God is refined.He is a shield to those taking refuge in him. 6 Add nothing to his words,Or he will reprove you,And you will be proved a liar
And the word is truth and the truth came thanks to Jesus the son of God to reveal God: our celestial father.
Jesus is the answer to Proverbs 30 line 4.
Proverbs 30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
Jeremiah 23:23-24
Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off? [24] Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.
John 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
1 John 5:20-21
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
[21] Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
Plz watch this debate about ONENESS VS TRINITY
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@@rlg6728 Trinity removed the truth of God The Most High.
Acts 3:1313 The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his Servant, Jesus, whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him. 15 whereas you killed the Chief Agent of life. But God RAISED HIM UP from the dead, of which fact we are witnesses
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Removed the truth???
Well, we glad we have you guys and ur amazing interpretation😅.
Trinity means the belief of One god who is tripersonal.
Jesus in his human nature submits and prays to the father who is not jesus.
Notice when jesus says " give me the same glory i had WITH you before the world existed" he didn't say the glory that i had as a diety but the glory that he in his divine nature shared with his father who is not him. Consider john 1:1 " in the beginning was the WORD and the word was with God and the word was god"
Jesus the son existed from eternity past without his human nature with both the father and the spirit. They are distinct to one another and yet they are united in their equal divinity and roles.
The father's role is the thinker, he's the one who thought of creation and salvation. Jesus is the word and the word is what brings about the thoughts in other words, through him the thought become and action. He's the one through him the world was created and he performed the action salvation. The spirit's role is carrying out the work of the father and the son. Because god is love, he's always been love before creation due to to his triune nature. The father is a lover, the son is a loved one and the spirit is a spirit of love
@@rlg6728 Who was with God since the beginning? John 1:1 and the Word was with God 2 This one was in the beginning with God. John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time; the "only-begotten" god(Jesus) who is at the Father’s side(Jehovah/YHWH) is the one WHO HAS EXPLAINED "HIM".
(only-begotten:(of a child) being the only offspring of its father.)
JOHN 5:26 For just as the Father has life in himself, SO HE HAS GRANTED "ALSO" TO THE SON to have life in himself.
Explained who?
Matthew 11:27 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son IS WILLING TO REVEAL HIM.
Reveal who?
Who is the Lord of the heaven and earth?
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of HEAVEN AND EARTH, because YOU have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Revelation 14:7 He was saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived, so worship THE ONE who made the HEAVEN AND THE HEARTH AND THE SEA AND THE SPRINGS OF WATER.”
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Study the Bible. What do Say in Genesis 1:1-2. Do not you see the Holy Spirit and God the Father. The Scripture answered itself followed the reference.
and for my next trick....
No one has really address this Topic like the way you do.
May God bless You. Amen.
Thank you!
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Heresy
Jesus went to Gedsemene to pray to Father. Means Jesus has somebody above Jesus. The Roman succeded to crucify Jesus but the 3 types of Christians succeded in separating Jesus from Father. Jesus became an orphan. Is this how Christians pay gratefulness to Jesus?
Peter disowned Jesus 3 times, why bother persons like Peter who claimed Jesus is the Father too?
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@@au8363 3 in 1 is correct but status is differrent. Father is the Creator, Son is the Most Compassionate. Holy Ghost is neutral, like air can adjust.
@@vladimirkrisnov4322 not necessarily Hebrews 1:8-12
New American Standard Bible
8 But regarding the Son He says,
“Your throne, God, is forever and ever,
And the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of [a]His kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of joy above Your companions.”
10 And,
“You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the works of Your hands;
11 They will perish, but You remain;
And they all will [b]wear out like a garment,
12 And like a robe You will roll them up;
Like a garment they will also be changed.
But You are the same,
And Your years will not come to an end.”
John 1:1-3
New American Standard Bible
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 [a]He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him [b]not even one thing came into being that has come into being.
The Holy Spirt And Father are equally as Passionate as Jesus. And John 16:12-15
New American Standard Bible
12 “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them at the present time. 13 But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take from Mine and will disclose it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine; this is why I said that He takes from Mine and will disclose it to you. So The Holy Ghost had a Very Important Role as Important as The Father And Son
He’s not the father and the son. Jesus never even remotely suggested that. In fact he made it clear his power came from his father. He said he would be seated next to his father from now on.
Revelation 3:20
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa revelation 3:20,21 sum it up. Ty
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And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: and lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.“
Matthew 3:16-17 KJV
Very clear verse, three entities, doing three different things at the same time, but in perfect unity. You need the Holy Spirit to understand god, let him guide you in all truth, without humbleness it’s not possible, it’s not the intellect that explains you who god is but: „But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.“
1 Corinthians 2:10-11 KJV
Nah. I’ve done so many videos on that. Definitely not.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa „But there is a spirit in man: And the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding. Great men are not always wise: Neither do the aged understand judgment.“
Job 32:8-9 KJV
Correct!@@rolandthanksjesus4733
Jesus won't claim that before Abraham was "I AM" if JESUS knew that God the Father does not share HIS GODNESS ...HE knew no GOD before HIM and after HIM...God the Father in the old testament told Moises that tell them "I AM who I AM"...what a coincidence that Jesus has the guts to claim before Abraham was "I AM"
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons.
The person who is the Son is eternal, but he was not a Son until the appointed time according to the scriptures when God was manifested in the flesh:
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Hebrews 1:5
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6
FOR this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; Hebrews 7:1
To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; Hebrews 7:2
Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Hebrews 7:3
He became the Father and the Son
god has no respect for person but he loves man which is his creation..... person is persona ie. officer... lieutenant....judge.... he hates man made TITLES....personas!!! :)
Deuteronomy 1:17
“Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.”
robin mitchell wtf did u smoke
@@omarkhalid2580
I am smarter than u high as fuck...
Deuteronomy 1:17 Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.
@@omarkhalid2580 do u feel like a fool? Or do u just look like one?
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons.
Romans 2:11
“For there is no respect of persons with God.”
@@au8363
i am not christian is father god Yahweh? is jesus Yahweh's son?
Yes and yes
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Jesus is good person and god but Yahweh is not, it is favoritist to jews and so brutal
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@@antoniomontana3491 God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons .
we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 5For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
7Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge:
1 Corinthians 8:4b-7a
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. - 1 Corinthians 15:28
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF God; -
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When god did not made trinity clear like he made everything else clear through his messengers, then why should we research, connect and deduce that he is triune. Who are we to come up with a theory without his endorsement? I wold listen to Jesus and pray and worship god (the father) as asked by Jesus the Messiah, even if I can connect different verses and come up with the concept of trinity, just because it’s just a corroborated theory not a fact. I would follow a fact over a theory and the fact is Jesus asked me to worship God(the father) and not him. Jesus PBUH did not say worship me nor was he worshipped during his ministry however he worshipped and asked people to worship god(the father). I would do what Jesus PBUH asked me to do than follow a theory. All prophets and believers or eternal and will have an everlasting life I believe, so being eternal by the will of god should not be a criterion of ‘diety-ship’. That said, God is there to guide us so pray to god and he will guide us and until then hold to the rope(Torah , Bible and/or Quran) of god and live by it!
Jesus was worshipped often during His Ministry, claimed to be God, and was called God.
New Life Of Albany Ga.
We have to look into it with open mind and heart, and pray to god to lead us to the right path. I know for sure that the children of Israel were looking for the messiah to come and ‘Isa Masih’ did come and we call him Jesus Christ. I pray to god that he make his being clear to us. God has his own ways and I believe that Jesus PBUH is going to come to this world in the last days and make it clear to us!
I am a Muslim and I pray to the god of Moses, who is god the father and also the same god that Mohammed the prophet asked us to pray to.
I would pray god to enlighten us!
Also, I googled and there are sites that are for and against the dietyship of Jesus so, here is what I conclude-
1. We need to go to the original text of gospels and bible to find out
2. In the absence of original text we should ask god to guide us
3. God has his own ways to guide us so we should wait without fighting each other
Countless debates have been organized so far and god has guided who he willed.
For now it is good that we do not have anything against each other like the heretics and pagan who wanted to put believers to lions and anything that is bad in this world is dying - at least I see a positive change coming and gods works are unfolding.
In Islam , we believe Jesus will come before the end time and restore gods religion among other things that god has planned - so if not now we will know when Jesus PBUH comes in the end times. I believe Mohammed PBUH is a prophet like Jesus PBUH with god ordained messages and capabilities, who have come to mankind with a message.
I would ask god to unfold and guide to the right path. Ameen(Amen)
Just found this - “So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
Matthew 24:44 | NIV”
So we the Muslims and Christians believe that Jesus PBUH is going to come again. We have more in common to join hands and work together than the trivial differences. And remember that there are devil worshippers and negative forces who are creating a discord among believers (Jews, Christians and Muslims) to advance corruption (erosion of morality, family values, wars, abortions etc.) on the planet while we fight among us on petty differences. And these negative forces act as Muslims among Muslims and Christians when among Christians and destroying religion from within.
I am not going to play into devils hands by bashing what Quran respects/says about Jews and Christians as people of the book. Quran says Christians are your best friends followed by Jews. Pagans, devil worshipers and heretics want us to fight while advancing corruption on earth.
Remember the core message of Moses, Jesus and Mohammed is basically the same, worship that one god (I do know that majority of Christians worship the tri-UNE god though which is separate discussion, if u will) without idolatry
www.eternalgod.org/question-and-answer-22/
Matthew 24:44
Christ's Father is Elohim. Christ is Jehovah and The creator. The Holy Spirit is the mind of Christ and Elohim. Christ is a resurrected being with a tangible, perfected body with hands and feet, etc. Elohim also has a perfected body. Christ is our God. When we are born again Christ becomes our Father.
Not true
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@@au8363 correct, Christ is not The Father, but he becomes our father in the covenant by adoption (Gal 4:4-7)
Bro branham said sons have beginnings....he was not eternal....
The godhead is not a trinity of persons....the godhead is three attributes that were in God...
The terms Father and Son don't always have the same meaning....like people interpret....
The trinitarians always give the terms Father and Son the meaning of persons which is wrong and the jesus only Pentecostals always give the terms Father and Son the same meaning of 3 attributes or 3 offices which is wrong too....
Bro William branham said God Himself gave birth to His Son before there was a spec of stardust
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons .
Hey brother, I agree with a lot of what you said.
But Jesus did not have 2 natures or two wills. His will was the will of the father. He said He came not to do His own will meaning He wasn’t here for His own benefit, He wasn’t self seeking. This is proven in 1 Corinthians when we learn love doesn’t boast and isn’t self seeking. That’s what He meant when He said not my will but yours.
When He was asking for the cup to pass, during the Passover you could not pass the cup until you drank it. He was praying that He may drink the cup so He could pass it. He wasn’t trying to avoid it, for if He was, God would have done it, as God ALWAYS hears Him.
If His will was at all opposing the fathers will, if He had any desire to do something differently than the Father, He’s an adversary.
He had our infirmities, but not our desires.
"you could not pass the cup until you drank it".
You can either drink and pass or you can just pass without drinking. Jesus asked before He drank so He was obviously doing the latter.
Recheck your logic.
@@rand5 nah son, you’re obviously not reading the scripture.
Jesus said if the only way the cup was to pass was by drinking, Gods will be done, that’s saying He was praying for the cup to pass by drinking.
Jesus said earlier that He would not be asked to be saved from the hour, as the hour was the reason He was there in the first place.
According to your logic, Jesus lied and asked to be saved from the hour, even though He said He would not ask to be saved! Rethink your logic 🤦🏼♂️
Scripture tells us if we pray according to His will, it will happen. Jesus prayed for the cup to pass, and the cup passed, as evidenced by His resurrection.
@@rand5 you are reading it in your preconceived notions and translated.
A child doesn’t have preconceived notions bud.
If a child knows that if we pray according to His will that He will answer, and Jesus prayed to have the cup pass through His drinking of it, 1+1=2. Jesus prayer to have the cup pass was answered. It was the fathers will for the cup to pass!
We are supposed to want the same things God wants.
We are supposed to love.
Love isn’t self seeking. By the cup passing, through means of His resurrection, death has been made a joke by Jesus so that we may have life!
You’re completely misunderstanding what having the cup pass from Him means!
The cup is death. Jesus drank the cup and it passed. He died then rose from death.
A child could see this. It’s so clear. If only you knew and understood Him, it would be clear to you too.
@@thomasdillon5416 i suppose what you say is plausible but Jesus added that one little word, "nevertheless", indicating a contrast between His will and the will of the Father.
Jesus said, "I always do the will of the Father". If His will Was the same, He wouldn't have to use those words.
He chose freely to do the will of the Father, always.
He was our example to follow.
@@rand5 nope, Jesus didn’t speak English. He never said nevertheless.
Jesus always does the will of the father because, wait for it, He is the father.
You’re making something simple into something complicated.
God the Father can save? right?then why there is a need of Jesus to be the Saviour if God the Father is omnipotent to save....
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons .
How do we know an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent God exists in Three?...... because this fact is evidenced in His Word.
The Bible would be written in a different narrative if Oneness doctrine were true. For example John 17:24 would read “Myself, I want those I have given myself to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory I have given to myself because I loved myself before the creation of the world."
No, because God is not constricted by time. He can say Jesus is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa not so. John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
Or should that be "And now, myself, I glorify myself in my presence with the glory I had with myself before the world began."
Your arguments are like explaining why grass is blue i.e. it isn't and it doesn't matter what you say to prove it is blue.... because it's not.
@@ChristisSaviour Not true on your part my friend. Jesus is the One true and living God. There is no trinity mentioned in Scripture.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa your mantra doesn't prove your point
@@ChristisSaviour No, the Scripture does which I have exegeted properly dozens of times on the channel on this very point.
He is not the Son and the Father. Like Hebrew tradition, He is The first born Son who inherited all that is His FATHER'S.
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@@au8363 false, that is the Nicaean Council Nicolatians heresy doctrines of Roman Catholic Church. The Arians were the ones telling the truth, and the heretics got in power and deceived the whole world tricked into worshipping the beast and his image slapped over the real NT Messiah Yashua. The pagan holidays, Sunday sabbath, they don't even teach of the Melchizedek Law in christ, they teach pure lawlessness because of grace. The Dark Trinity in the scriptures is the KJV added Trinity. The original Greek doesn't even have the 3 in 1 scripture in it. Go study up in the orignal Greek and see for yourself.
Yashuas true nature is the highest exalted servant and begotten Son of YAH ALMIGHTY THE MOST HIGH GOD, THE FATHER WHO IS GOD ALONE.
1 Corinthians 8:4-6 and 1 Timothy 2:5.
[Yashua was a the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning of Creation, followed by another lesser Morningstar(Satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold. The hidden wisdom revealed by Ruach HaQodash [The Holy Spirit] from TMH's word. 🤲🏼❤️🤲🏾
BE DILIGENT, BEHOLD!
DAY 1 OF CREATION]:
Genesis 1:1-5
[1]In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.[2]And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.[3]And God said, 👉🏽LET THERE BE LIGHT👈🏿: and there was LIGHT.[4]And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.[5]And God called the LIGHT DAY, and the DARKNESS he called NIGHT. And the evening and the morning were THE FIRST DAY.
[DAY 4 OF CREATION]:
Genesis 1:14-19
[14]And God said,
👉🏽LET THERE BE LIGHTS👈🏿 in the firmament of the heaven to DIVIDE THE DAY FROM THE NIGHT; and LET THEM BE FOR SIGNS, and for SEASONS, and for DAYS, and YEARS: [15]And let them be for LIGHTS in the firmament OF THE HEAVEN to give LIGHT UPON THE EARTH: and it was so. [16]And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.[17]And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, [18]And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. [19]And the evening and the morning were THE FOURTH DAY.
[We as carnal beings being called DAY and NIGHT, now that we are walking in the spirit in christ]:
1 Thessalonians 5:5
[5]Ye are all the children of LIGHT,
and the children of the DAY:
we are not of the NIGHT,
nor of DARKNESS.
Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation:
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John 17:5
King James Version
5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE
BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿
[That former glory before being made a man]:
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Luke 1:78-79
[78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
Revelation 22:16
[16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David,
👉🏽and THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿
[FIRST DAY OF CREATION OF THOSE SPIRITUAL BEINGS WRITTEN IN JOB 38 OLD TESTAMENT]:
Job 38:4-7
[4]Where wast thou when I [FATHER]
👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
[7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and
👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿
shouted for joy?
Job 38: 12-15
[12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused
👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ]
to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken. [Satan, lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12]
@@au8363 THE TRUTH IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK! 🤲🏼🖤
1 John 5:6-8 Greek Orinlginal Version
6 This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood, and the Spirit beareth witness, because the spirit is truth.
✅️7These three they are for the witnessing, 8 the spirit, the water, and the blood, and these three agree in one.✅️
When he was nailed to the cross the water and the blood that leaked from his side when he was pierced by the spear was for a witness of the truth, and the Spirit of truth that came over those who saw and knew right away from His teachings of blood and water prophecy of psalms 22 is a witness in itself.
John 19:34-35 KJV
34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.
I have something i would like to bring out to the open to the glory of the great I Am. Trinitarians seem to believe in three distinct persons because it seems that's what the bible says. One example is this:
Holy spirit is distinct since Jesus said there will come a helper from the Father (John 14:16)
But:
That helper is the Father (matt 10:20)
And the Father's spirit is Jesus (romans 8:9)
The one that bought sinners with His own blood (acts 20:28)
I dont blame you trinitarians, i think most of us used to made the mistake and forget that God has spoken in parables and riddles. But He speaks plainly of the Father to those who would eventually listen, like His disciples (John 16:25).
i belive God is one but how God loved
us
he is one who did he love in eternal
Jesus came in the flesh. He now has a glorified body. Firstborn of the dead.
I used to believe in oneness until i finally known the truth
God is TRIUNE not just one person but 3 in one.
It wouldn't make sense for jesus to pray to himself on olive Mountain to submit his spirit to himself, and to not know the hour but himself. And to get baptised and speak from heaven while also manifesting as a dove to land on himself. Our God is one indeed but he is tripersonal ( one essence and 3 persons that are united in their distinct roles). Our God is Love, it's always been his nature thus, from eternity past before everything, he has always been love because he's always been performing the action of love within the community of the trinity. Otherwise, his love would've been contingent upon his creation. Love is an action not just a dispositional quality like mercy, forgiveness..etc.
Now, if god is trinity because of his nature of love then why 3 and not 4,100, or infinite persons?
A/ the reason is because there can only be 3 different and qualitatively better forms of love. 1. Self love ( the father) 2-shared love( love shared between the father and the son jesus). 3- cooperative love( the father and son share a cooperative love with the holy spirit). The need for an extra being is beyond necessity because there won't be a qualitatively better forms of love but a duplication of cooperative love. These 3 forms of love can be seen in creation. (Husband , wife and their son)
Ik the word trinity is not mentioned in the bible but neither is omnipresent and omniscient and omnipotent but, does that mean that god is neither of these adjectives. NO
Trinity does not mean 3 Gods but One in 3 persons.
There are plenty of verses that support the trinity of god.
Gen1 the word for god use is elohim-->gods.
When jesus prophesied of the coming of the holly spirit he said ANOTHER comforter not DIFFERENT. Another is only applied for a person not an impersonal force.
There many more evidence from the bible that god is 3 persons in one. Just where have u come with such confusion and twisting of scripture!!
Plz watch this debate about ONENESS VS TRINITY
ruclips.net/video/Yuwq8-dixt4/видео.html
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons
Jesus is not the Father the Father is not Jesus the Father is not the Holy Spirit those 3 are distinct yet are One because God is 1 exist in 3 distinct entities with different roles God the Father as the foundation God the Son as our redeemer God the Holy Spirit as our Guide in our daily lives and churches. Jesus was sent by God the Father on earth he did not send himself.
In old testament the word Elohim is plural for God it is in Genesis 1:1 also God says Let US make man in OUR image he wasn’t talking to the angels right? otherwise we are also created in the image of the angels. God is 3 in persons but 1 in being it doesn’t mean that we have 3 Gods.
Jesus is God
The Father is God
The Holy Ghost is God
But God is ONE
HERE IS THE EQUATION FOR THE TRINITY
1+1+1= 1
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (KJV)
When Jesus is praying to the Father was he praying to himself in heaven? It doesn’t make sense and also if Jesus is the Holy Spirit was he also the Holy Spirit that Jesus received from the Father which is also him when he was baptized? It really doesn’t make sense. Modalism is a false doctrine.
Trinity is Monotheism
No one can comprehend God you are trying to put God in a comprehensible being which is One person One being. God is better than all of us no human mind will fully undertand how the Trinity works because that is the TRUE nature of God.
If Jesus is already the Father then why would we need him as a mediator between man and God?
So your saying God is not alone because he is with unity with two. You can't say he is alone but his unified that's just incorrect and it doesn't make sense even to the infinite mind🤣
Even God will disagree with you, No one is beside him and no is with him and no one is after him he is singular . 1+1+1 Can't be 1 if they have their own will and mind.
That is clearly not Biblical, the trinity is just a made up doctrines by the confused prophet and it actually comes from Paganism the early trinitarian won't disagree.
No one can comprehend God that's why he send his Holy Spirit to Guide us , only those who sincerely seek him will know him.
God Is Triune Father Son Holy Ghost One Being 3 Persons .
Jesus is God but created proven:
Revelation 3:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, *the beginning of the creation of God;*
Colossians 1:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, *the firstborn of every creature:*
Hebrews 1:4-5 King James Version (KJV)
4 *Being made so much better than the angels,* as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, *Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?* And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
context prove he was begotten before his incarnation on earth. so this verse is not talking about his earthly birth.
Thanks for all those references..
Jesus is the firstborn from the dead not first created
If you read further on the idea of begotten meaning created is disproved, it says he is the firstborn of the dead, this shows that firstborn is in terms of ranking. Hebrews 1:8 Jehovah God says ““But of the Son He says, “Y OUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, A ND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF H IS KINGDOM. Y OU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; T HEREFORE GOD, Y OUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED Y OU W ITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE Y OUR COMPANIONS.” And, “Y OU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, A ND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF Y OUR HANDS; T HEY WILL PERISH, BUT Y OU REMAIN; A ND THEY ALL WILL BECOME OLD LIKE A GARMENT, A ND LIKE A MANTLE Y OU WILL ROLL THEM UP; L IKE A GARMENT THEY WILL ALSO BE CHANGED. B UT Y OU ARE THE SAME, A ND Y OUR YEARS WILL NOT COME TO AN END.””
Hebrews 1:8-12 . The end of those verses it is the same description used about Jehovah God in psalms and in Job
@@demanitorres5925 There was no Son in the Old Testament Hebrews 1:1,2 NKJV
King james version is not in a way calles a refrence sorry bud