Watching CrossFit slowly(very), (verb) itself into oblivion is one of the most heartbreaking things in my adult life, mostly because it was something I felt so connected to, and invested in, so many great memories that are just stained with whatever is happening now, I feel like we will never get back to those golden years.
Andrew, you create very funny and engaging content. You also are not sheepish about calling out everyone on anything. It puts everyone on notice and I find it refreshing, entertaining, and compelling. I'm a wrestling nut and as such delve deep into wrestling, collegiate and freestyle, and find it compelling. That said, wrestling videos and content easily become tedious for me and I jump around. Much of CF content leads me to the same conclusion. I've been a CrossFit observer for nearly 16 years. Was originally a fan but quickly figured out that CF is a sport made up of random movements that are unsafe for athletes and programming that puts athletes health at risk. On top of that, to someone who's spent decades in gyms training I don't find watching people workout, or lift heavy that compelling. In fact, I find it boring to watch people push themselves to near failure or beyond. The fact that doing so is highlighted as an accomplishment is perplexing. As a former Marine, wrestler, wrestling coach, and combative arts athlete, I can assure you that the challenge isn't pushing yourself to grind out workouts to or beyond failure. The real challenge is finding the sweet spot between vigorous workouts and sustainable, safe, drug free recovery. I actually have great admiration and respect for CF athletes at all levels and abilities. Anyone who is trying to grow their fitness as a project, and is passionate and consistent about it, is to be commended, full stop. However, a "sport" that employs repetitive Olympic weightlifting workouts, heavy weight lifting, dangerous gymnastics movements, and training beyond failure with random workouts is unsafe and unsustainable. Along with those concerns CF is now replete with the use of performance pharmaceuticals, designer diets, and a host of anti-inflammatory protocols in order to train longer, lift heavier, notch more PR's, move faster, and recover quicker. You can rebut and rebuff my assertions with the corporate CrossFit tenants of functional strength, varied movements, etc. The reality is that CF as practiced by Games level athletes, and many intermediate and advanced level athletes, is compressing your vertebrae, wearing down your tendons, ligaments, and joints, wearing out your recovery abilities and positioning you for diminished mobility and function as you age. There is absolutely nothing that is being done by hard driving CF athletes that they'll be able to maintain as they age and won't leave them injured and compromised in their later years. Hard driving CF athletes will not be able to escape the negative consequences that have plagued countless extreme fitness athletes, and hard driving athletes in general, for decades. Last, I know, thank goodness he's almost done rambling, be aware that your recovery and mobility will diminish as you age, especially for hard driving athletes. Our kidney function naturally diminishes as we age and the additional stress of ingesting high volumes of protein for years, along with regular performance pharmaceutical use will only further deplete your kidney function regardless of the use of designer PEDs and monitored protocols with supposedly "safe" cycling protocols. If you are taking TRT, HGH, steroids, peptides, and the likes, you will experience the downsides, many of which are potentially life changing and lifelong. Please take a moment before working to negate my warnings. A better use of your time is to research my assertions, listen closely to what aging, former Games level athletes are sharing about their health, read everything you can on joint health, learn about the lifelong consequences of using PEDs, learn how our bodies change as we age, research the effects of years of compressing your vertebrae with snatches, cleans, heavy deadlifts, etc., listen to athletes about the effects of long term gymnastics movements, and read about the irreversible effects of continually depleting your recovery system with near failure and beyond programming. Again, I sincerely respect and admire CF athletes of all levels. My message is to open the discussion about the real and impending outcomes of practicing a sport that is sacrificing the health of their members for profit. Additionally, I encourage athletes to stop giving too much credence to RUclips influencers and former Games athletes. Seek out medical and sport scientists and researchers. Read and research credible sources until you've included opposing viewpoints, reached redundancy of data and views, and sought out peer edited review resources. Be thorough, your health is at stake. All my best!
Lemme know when thrusters and burpees are on the “DO NOT PERFORM” list. Until then I’m sticking with the very successful CrossFit methodology. ❤ thanks Hiller
I actually like the full workout videos. I had the Haley video playing while I did the workout myself in my garage and I often do the same with the Mayhem Hunt full workout videos.
If these people were exceptionally gifted without PED, they would have succeeded in sports elsewhere. Rich was a junior college baseball player. Mat was a broken down weightlifter. Tia was a dental assistant. Obv they are on drugs.
B Bros are annoying to me. Nice guys but kinda on the Mr Beast level. Teenager audience. Old guys with Peter Pan syndrome. Nice guys, fun guys, very creative, but not my up of tea. Sorry, just my opinion.
I agree with bridges actually. Those moves are mostly ones I could live without that don’t offer a big enough reward over a more common variant. A push press or shoulder press work well enough. This is just my opinion. I think the benefit is marginal for DU vs Singles. Now if we are talking competitions then I understand but if we are talking about muscle growth or vo2max increases, I don’t see many on Bridges list that offer way better gains than more common exercises. But that’s just my opinion and I’m more of a triathlete that does CrossFit than a hardcore cross fitter.
Can confirm on box jumps, had to get stitches from gashing my leg open this summer, asking for a soft box this xmas. Also agree on the high pull, a sandbag clean works much better IMO and has actual transferable use to the real world, rarely have I ever had to sumo high pull something but on the daily I have to load some object from the ground to above waist height.
Ever had to put something in the bed of a pickup truck? Ever had to lift something that wouldn’t fit on your shoulder? I’m not downplaying the functionality of a clean, but the notion that a SDHP is misinformed.
@@spencergsmith Every day and I'll stand by my statement that I'm far more likely to be lifting the object into the bed or on to a landing like a bag clean with my legs and back than a SDHP with legs and traps, you're just making a simple task harder for yourself if that's the case. Just yesterday I had to move my sister out of her apartment and when getting the AC into the truck guess which of the two got the job done the best?
@@ManOfEthnicity logically, if it won’t fit on your shoulder, then you didn’t lift it onto your shoulder and therefore you didn’t clean it. Also, you do realize that your traps are part of your back, right? The clean and the SDHP use very similar muscle groups. I’m not saying the clean is less functional - far be it - but the SDHP is still very useful and great for teaching people mechanics, hence why it’s a foundational movement.
4:13 the STRENGTH! Had the mobility and the balance to get down from the getgo, but gaining the strength to stand it up took me some time - and, it just looks lit, that's why I wanted to master it🔫
Look at Tia year to year though. I've watched and rewatched all the games. Her body development is fairly progressive. Just imagine the extra money with being second. If Tia is using so was Matt. But like their family support is next level - nutrition is definitely dialed in so that heavily influences their body. We are now seeing her not be as dominant in areas she used to be - sled and short sprints. Her life has been sport and if she's been muscular from a young age and genetics. Boom! She got pregnant and wasn't trying.. she was cycling well or randomly and not tracking but I can't imagine negligence because following our cycle is so powerful. But those are just my thoughts
I started stepping down all box jumps years ago when I realized I was actually faster and more efficient that way. Also the rebound box jumps are just kinda dumb to me lol
You get it! You actually get it! Its crazy how many people put out 1+ hours of content with 15 minutes of actual content people want to watch! (sevan I am looking at you) You always trim the fat and just give us the quality and leave the bull shit out!
Compare the salaries and education of the physicians that come up with the drug test to the salaries and education of the physicians that develop the drugs and that will tell you a lot.
Whether Tia is on steroids, I'm not sure, but you constantly say the reason you believe she is on roids is that her headspace has changed. There is a big difference between American sport and Australian sport. No disrespect, but American athletes can be arrogant, loud, proud and to a point full of themselves which is great it's in the American culture. But in Australia you act like that as an athlete the Australian people will come after you it's called tall poppy syndrome. Australians hate cockiness and arrogance in sport. Australian's expect their athletes to be humble. The fact that Tia had to learn that it is ok to act cocky and arrogant she had to be because it is an American dominant sport she needed to bring the same attitude as American athletes if she was going to be successful. So saying her head space had changed doesn't make her a steroid user. She's adapted to the American athlete attitude and she is crushing it. Study Australian sporting culture. Humility is expected of our athletes.
You just have to look at it as a probability since there is no direct evidence of it like a positive drug test. What are the odds you will be top dog in a sport where a lot of people test positive naturally? REALLY LOW. What are the odds someone wouldn't "attempt" to cheat in any possible way for fame and money. REALLY LOW. What are the odds organizations like Crossfit with suspicious policies like "We have the right to release testing results as we please" isn't just another way of saying they will protect athletes who bring views/attention/money to the sport. REALLY LOW. What are the odds this is a different case in the plethora of other scandals in the long history we have with plenty of evidence to support it's normal occurrences. REALLY LOW. People cheat, that's a fact, these types of organizations are proven to be and prone to corruption, that's a fact. So what is the probability she is natural.....REALLLLLLY LOWWWWW. Basically to the point it would almost seem harder to prove she's natural than not.
100% juicing. She is too big for CrossFit to fail as it sets the sports credibility waaaaay back. Just look at the traps on her. It’s an automatic give away.
Timing so ironic with Gabi and Henrik just blowing their achilles at rogue
Watching CrossFit slowly(very), (verb) itself into oblivion is one of the most heartbreaking things in my adult life, mostly because it was something I felt so connected to, and invested in, so many great memories that are just stained with whatever is happening now, I feel like we will never get back to those golden years.
Andrew, you create very funny and engaging content. You also are not sheepish about calling out everyone on anything. It puts everyone on notice and I find it refreshing, entertaining, and compelling.
I'm a wrestling nut and as such delve deep into wrestling, collegiate and freestyle, and find it compelling. That said, wrestling videos and content easily become tedious for me and I jump around. Much of CF content leads me to the same conclusion.
I've been a CrossFit observer for nearly 16 years. Was originally a fan but quickly figured out that CF is a sport made up of random movements that are unsafe for athletes and programming that puts athletes health at risk. On top of that, to someone who's spent decades in gyms training I don't find watching people workout, or lift heavy that compelling. In fact, I find it boring to watch people push themselves to near failure or beyond. The fact that doing so is highlighted as an accomplishment is perplexing. As a former Marine, wrestler, wrestling coach, and combative arts athlete, I can assure you that the challenge isn't pushing yourself to grind out workouts to or beyond failure. The real challenge is finding the sweet spot between vigorous workouts and sustainable, safe, drug free recovery.
I actually have great admiration and respect for CF athletes at all levels and abilities. Anyone who is trying to grow their fitness as a project, and is passionate and consistent about it, is to be commended, full stop.
However, a "sport" that employs repetitive Olympic weightlifting workouts, heavy weight lifting, dangerous gymnastics movements, and training beyond failure with random workouts is unsafe and unsustainable. Along with those concerns CF is now replete with the use of performance pharmaceuticals, designer diets, and a host of anti-inflammatory protocols in order to train longer, lift heavier, notch more PR's, move faster, and recover quicker.
You can rebut and rebuff my assertions with the corporate CrossFit tenants of functional strength, varied movements, etc. The reality is that CF as practiced by Games level athletes, and many intermediate and advanced level athletes, is compressing your vertebrae, wearing down your tendons, ligaments, and joints, wearing out your recovery abilities and positioning you for diminished mobility and function as you age.
There is absolutely nothing that is being done by hard driving CF athletes that they'll be able to maintain as they age and won't leave them injured and compromised in their later years. Hard driving CF athletes will not be able to escape the negative consequences that have plagued countless extreme fitness athletes, and hard driving athletes in general, for decades.
Last, I know, thank goodness he's almost done rambling, be aware that your recovery and mobility will diminish as you age, especially for hard driving athletes. Our kidney function naturally diminishes as we age and the additional stress of ingesting high volumes of protein for years, along with regular performance pharmaceutical use will only further deplete your kidney function regardless of the use of designer PEDs and monitored protocols with supposedly "safe" cycling protocols. If you are taking TRT, HGH, steroids, peptides, and the likes, you will experience the downsides, many of which are potentially life changing and lifelong.
Please take a moment before working to negate my warnings. A better use of your time is to research my assertions, listen closely to what aging, former Games level athletes are sharing about their health, read everything you can on joint health, learn about the lifelong consequences of using PEDs, learn how our bodies change as we age, research the effects of years of compressing your vertebrae with snatches, cleans, heavy deadlifts, etc., listen to athletes about the effects of long term gymnastics movements, and read about the irreversible effects of continually depleting your recovery system with near failure and beyond programming.
Again, I sincerely respect and admire CF athletes of all levels. My message is to open the discussion about the real and impending outcomes of practicing a sport that is sacrificing the health of their members for profit. Additionally, I encourage athletes to stop giving too much credence to RUclips influencers and former Games athletes. Seek out medical and sport scientists and researchers. Read and research credible sources until you've included opposing viewpoints, reached redundancy of data and views, and sought out peer edited review resources. Be thorough, your health is at stake.
All my best!
Lemme know when thrusters and burpees are on the “DO NOT PERFORM” list. Until then I’m sticking with the very successful CrossFit methodology. ❤ thanks Hiller
I actually like the full workout videos. I had the Haley video playing while I did the workout myself in my garage and I often do the same with the Mayhem Hunt full workout videos.
THIS channel is basically the only reason I follow or watch Crossfit.
Same. To bash and ask all the questions we’re asking. They’re all in gear..
I agree about Tia, have always thought the same about Mat too. No way they can be that dominant naturally. Lance Armstrong is a great example
If these people were exceptionally gifted without PED, they would have succeeded in sports elsewhere. Rich was a junior college baseball player. Mat was a broken down weightlifter. Tia was a dental assistant. Obv they are on drugs.
The big thing for me is where did all of Mats muscle go??? So he stopped competing and all his mass just disappeared??
@@tjmarlettw1497 Thats exactly what happens when you stop lifting. Just happened to myself switching to triathlons.
@tjmarlettw1497 he looks so different now, maybe he stopped taking whatever he used to take
When are we getting a sonny webster steroid video? This can't have gone unnoticed.
Haha when you speed up Dan Bailey running it looks like he’s running backwards 😂
B Bros are annoying to me. Nice guys but kinda on the Mr Beast level. Teenager audience. Old guys with Peter Pan syndrome. Nice guys, fun guys, very creative, but not my up of tea. Sorry, just my opinion.
Same
I agree with bridges actually. Those moves are mostly ones I could live without that don’t offer a big enough reward over a more common variant. A push press or shoulder press work well enough. This is just my opinion. I think the benefit is marginal for DU vs Singles. Now if we are talking competitions then I understand but if we are talking about muscle growth or vo2max increases, I don’t see many on Bridges list that offer way better gains than more common exercises. But that’s just my opinion and I’m more of a triathlete that does CrossFit than a hardcore cross fitter.
Wait this is actually a great video. CrossFit content review
GHD Situp new standard should only just change, “knees extended at the top of the GHD, so legs locked out while you touch the pads”
My question is: Which CF athlete is going to be the whistle blower someday and write "The CrossFit Mitchell Report" once the ecosystem runs dry?
3:37 I’ve blown out my Achilles 30 minutes after doing box jumps. It. Fucking. Suuucked!!!
i truly enjoyed this video, andrew.
Can confirm on box jumps, had to get stitches from gashing my leg open this summer, asking for a soft box this xmas. Also agree on the high pull, a sandbag clean works much better IMO and has actual transferable use to the real world, rarely have I ever had to sumo high pull something but on the daily I have to load some object from the ground to above waist height.
Ever had to put something in the bed of a pickup truck? Ever had to lift something that wouldn’t fit on your shoulder?
I’m not downplaying the functionality of a clean, but the notion that a SDHP is misinformed.
@@spencergsmith Every day and I'll stand by my statement that I'm far more likely to be lifting the object into the bed or on to a landing like a bag clean with my legs and back than a SDHP with legs and traps, you're just making a simple task harder for yourself if that's the case. Just yesterday I had to move my sister out of her apartment and when getting the AC into the truck guess which of the two got the job done the best?
@@ManOfEthnicity logically, if it won’t fit on your shoulder, then you didn’t lift it onto your shoulder and therefore you didn’t clean it. Also, you do realize that your traps are part of your back, right? The clean and the SDHP use very similar muscle groups.
I’m not saying the clean is less functional - far be it - but the SDHP is still very useful and great for teaching people mechanics, hence why it’s a foundational movement.
4:13 the STRENGTH! Had the mobility and the balance to get down from the getgo, but gaining the strength to stand it up took me some time - and, it just looks lit, that's why I wanted to master it🔫
Hiller please talk about this CrossFit series they had back in the day called “Killing the fat man”
I liked the buttery bros video. They can't all be perfect. Good point on the standards!
Yes I don’t think he watched the video, this wasn’t a serious competition it was just for fun 😂
@@premiertrainingFL he definitely watched the video. I see your point though.
@@timothysutton1251 based on what he said, I assumed he didn’t watch it. But if you say he watched it, then hes being way too critical lol
4:57 the Spud Inc head harness is the best one I've ever used. Good choice.
Look at Tia year to year though. I've watched and rewatched all the games. Her body development is fairly progressive. Just imagine the extra money with being second. If Tia is using so was Matt. But like their family support is next level - nutrition is definitely dialed in so that heavily influences their body. We are now seeing her not be as dominant in areas she used to be - sled and short sprints. Her life has been sport and if she's been muscular from a young age and genetics. Boom! She got pregnant and wasn't trying.. she was cycling well or randomly and not tracking but I can't imagine negligence because following our cycle is so powerful. But those are just my thoughts
I started stepping down all box jumps years ago when I realized I was actually faster and more efficient that way. Also the rebound box jumps are just kinda dumb to me lol
do another one. maybe sometime troll the number of people that don't do crossfit that watch your channel! thanks!
The man has a way with titles. Couldn’t resist the click
You get it! You actually get it! Its crazy how many people put out 1+ hours of content with 15 minutes of actual content people want to watch! (sevan I am looking at you) You always trim the fat and just give us the quality and leave the bull shit out!
This video feels like what you just said about the BB video
But where can I get that sweatshirt. Kirkland drips heavy on Hiller 🔥
You do arch your lower back when you are doing over Head kettelbell Swings if your overhead Mobility isnt that good
Groundhog Day came a few months early 🕳️
I golfed with James Sprague and that dude can yak the ball. Not 340+ but easily 295-305.
seen 2 people blow their Achilles in person, both had been asked to step down 2 reps before !
Okay, but is that a booger on your mustache?
He means arching/overextending at top/overhead
Let’s go!!!
Great use of trolling, Amanda Hari is great and better looking, but Hiller is still pound for pound the best in the space.
Compare the salaries and education of the physicians that come up with the drug test to the salaries and education of the physicians that develop the drugs and that will tell you a lot.
Tia, Matt and Rich were all too big to fail. CrossFit needed a story. Just look at Tia’s trap muscles. She is 100% juiced to the gils.
Fraser doesn't like pistols either
Sorry not sorry the buttery bros aka butt-hairy bros are over the freaking top. Hard pass to those nerd alerts 😂
KODA is in Oklahoma…
There are multiple koda gyms. Iron view is in Colorado.
The umm game was great
Trawling or trolling 😂
Look up plague of strength and his blog. Super interesting person.
Whether Tia is on steroids, I'm not sure, but you constantly say the reason you believe she is on roids is that her headspace has changed. There is a big difference between American sport and Australian sport. No disrespect, but American athletes can be arrogant, loud, proud and to a point full of themselves which is great it's in the American culture. But in Australia you act like that as an athlete the Australian people will come after you it's called tall poppy syndrome. Australians hate cockiness and arrogance in sport. Australian's expect their athletes to be humble.
The fact that Tia had to learn that it is ok to act cocky and arrogant she had to be because it is an American dominant sport she needed to bring the same attitude as American athletes if she was going to be successful. So saying her head space had changed doesn't make her a steroid user. She's adapted to the American athlete attitude and she is crushing it. Study Australian sporting culture. Humility is expected of our athletes.
I say the reason is her muscle development and dominance in the sport 😂
You just have to look at it as a probability since there is no direct evidence of it like a positive drug test. What are the odds you will be top dog in a sport where a lot of people test positive naturally? REALLY LOW. What are the odds someone wouldn't "attempt" to cheat in any possible way for fame and money. REALLY LOW. What are the odds organizations like Crossfit with suspicious policies like "We have the right to release testing results as we please" isn't just another way of saying they will protect athletes who bring views/attention/money to the sport. REALLY LOW. What are the odds this is a different case in the plethora of other scandals in the long history we have with plenty of evidence to support it's normal occurrences. REALLY LOW. People cheat, that's a fact, these types of organizations are proven to be and prone to corruption, that's a fact. So what is the probability she is natural.....REALLLLLLY LOWWWWW. Basically to the point it would almost seem harder to prove she's natural than not.
@@spencergsmith Facts. No question what so ever she's on juice.
100% juicing. She is too big for CrossFit to fail as it sets the sports credibility waaaaay back. Just look at the traps on her. It’s an automatic give away.
Sooo… no one is gonna ask about the hoodie? 👀
Half way through the video, I realized you are dressed. Duh.
Where is the outro?
My son needs to hear the outro after every video please, he will stop what he's doing and just stare at the screen with your outro
Isn’t the runner like a .75 ratio though. 400m is really like 533 since it’s uphill.
Even the assault runner? So I should be running 300 to get 400? Seems to easy
@ time it. 400 takes 2 mins when I run a 5:30 or less mile on the road.
I would love to see these athletes compared to people who play actual sports😂
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AH its trawling not trolling
Tia’s Home gym seemed a bit pointless for considering she lives in the USA. Hopefully her family uses it.
Look at all the frog grip ads… you can see needle marks around her belly button… 💉💉💉💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
lol 13:11
Tia is boring . Let’s move on already.
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Hiller, 🦇🦇🦇 Emily Rolf GHD's. Wow! How did they let her get away with that. Her hips were so far forward her knees her hitting her chin. wtf.