The skill set required to do all that Ray does is tremendous and his automotive mechanical accomplishment simply serve as the platform to realize his true talent. He frames up scene after scene like a pro film making director, he ad libs complete scripts in addition to being stage and lighting director. His stand-up comedy quality keeps his audience connected. This guy is a phenomenon!
I know right, I wish I was better at chasing electrical problems with meters like ray does. I can do basics check for power and such, but I have no idea how to chase a bad wire in a wiring harness
@@justinferguson5451 LOL I bought a mirror at auction for my entry hall two months ago and it sitting on the floor because it is so heavy it needs two studs for the mounting and I can't find my stud finder. I do not know WTF I did with it. I guess eventually I will get sick of seeing my shoes reflected in it and either start poking holes in the wall or I will go to Home Depot and buy a new stud finder. The problem is there is road construction (for 6 years now) all the way to Home Depot on Hwy 19, and they have doubled the price of everything in there since 2020, and I know I will find the old stud finder the very moment I pull into my garage when I get home, it be sitting on a shelf staring me in the face. As far as I know Ray has no ad lib for that sort of thing, probably edits those out because they are a blue stream of un-Raylike language.
"If someone put it together, I can take it apart" has been a saying of mine since I was about 8. I always make sure to add "but I never said I could put it back together afterwards". :) That whole subframe precariously balanced like that rates a 10 on the 'sketch-O-meter'.
This task has convinced me that leaving my keys in the ignition while parked in a sketchy neighborhood once my vehicle gets over 100k miles doesn’t seem stupid.
When the trans assembly hit the ground I just about choked on my Cheerios. Ray, it seems each day you amaze us with your positive attitude and ability.
Ray, you have fine skills and even more patience. I can no longer work on my vehicles due to physical disability, but when I was able to, the air was often filled with a blue haze of profanity! You do a great job of making family friendly video without needing the "bleep" button.
Wow same for me, cant do many things due to physical problems. (this being typed from ER waiting room) But for me to make a video like this it, would sound like Morse code with all the bleeps. :)
I think I've only ever heard one bleep on his channel. Didn't he almost drop a transmission onto himself from nipple-height? If I'm remembering correctly, I think that was it.
"NNOOOOOOOWWWWW!!!" Actually, yes. As usual, Ray takes it in stride. The floor is ok. It's fine. Working on cars/machinery takes a certain level of determination and confidence. And experience. And patience. And a few other things. Ray's got what it takes!
More amazing to me than watching Ray work on this engine is seeing people posting the same comments over and over and over about Ray needing a hydraulic lift table.
Love this series - something a bit different. I don't remember another entire drivetrain out one. Also kudos for leaving the trans unit slip in - sh*t happens and you dont attempt to sugar coat things - but instead show how to recover the situation in a calm way. Cant wait for part 3 !
One of my co-workers did one of these cars with the older CVT transmission. The way he did it was to drop the subframe first (struts and knuckles stay with the car), pull the cat and PTU out, then install a support fixture on the engine, remove the trans mount, lower the support fixture, and remove the trans. The way you did it kind of a disaster waiting to happen without the dealer support fixture because the subframe doesn't surround the power train assembly.
ray, whatever you're doing, the algorithm has taken a shine to you. you are getting pushed in my feed harder than vice grip garage used to a couple years back.
Moral of the story is buy anything but a Jeep. OMG this has more suspense than a Hitchcock film, my heart felt like it stopped when the transmission fell. It looks like putting all that back together will take till retirement.
Its good Friday a lot of people are recovering from devastating storms, cheers to everyone thats helping out. Adjustable subframe cradle is next in order. There's always a need for new shop equipment as new jobs come in. Happy Easter
Ray my Auto-Mechaincs Instructor, many, many years ago showed us a nice way to deal with the convertors. Take a box end wrench and a bell housing bolt. Use the wrench to hold the convertor in place by slipping the bolt through it and putting the other end against the convertor. Then just snug the bolt back into place. Very simple and no smashed fingers, toes or damage to the convertors.
Atleast the old transmission and subframe only fell a few inches and not out the truck on the lift from 8 plus feet lol at its just the old transmission not the new one loved the slow motion view @Rainman Ray's Repairs
As a uk mechanic who's removed subframes to do fwd clutch jobs. I felt your pain when everything fell 😢. That's gonna be a ballache to get that lot lined up to the vehicle again. You got this Ray! Keep your chin up things happen. Main thing is you didn't get hurt and no damage done! 😊
Ackware loads like that sometimes it's hard to determine exactly what they'll do.Sometime gravity is not your friend!glade your allright.Have a good day🎉
You knocking over the cradle made my day. I feel for you. Reminds me of doing my father's 03 yukon motor swap for him. On my back, hand tools, no trans jack, and using the farms tractor to pull and set the new motor. Said goodbye to the ac condenser in the process....
Ray, Eric O just bought a hydraulic table from Harbor Freight and was a huge help, I believe he got the 1000 pound version. The most important part is you didn’t get hurt. It will also help in positioning the entire unit to attach back to the body. I’m sure you’ll get it all back together and running fine, you always do.
Was thinking the same thing. The Car Ninja has a table with all sorts of adjustments that allow you to put support points everywhere needed to safely remove any powertrain. IIRC it was spendy but makes such jobs way easier and safer
And I know Ray watches Eric O... but maybe sometimes he doesn't learn it the first time. I think Eric even decided to go out and get the lift table from HF after he started the job rather than do it using only jackstands.
Wxactly what I was thinking. Sometimes I think Ray does certain jobs 'the hard way' just for dramatic effect. Like you have to wonder whether he checks service date and/or other repair software before doing big jobs like these. He seems to prefer figuring it out as it goes. Building suspense like a house of cards (or jack stands in this case)
Guys and Ray you be surprized by how many times a day engines come out just for the smallest things, i an surprized ray do not have a roller table for this kind of work but i say he be getting one after this, massive job for Ray and the deepest respect
I remember working on a Dell laptop 10 years ago. In order to remove the hard drive I had to remove the keyboard and screen. After which I had to split the laptop. Engineers never think of the person that will eventually perform repair on something.
I honestly didn’t there was enough residual value for a 4 cyl Jeep compass to venture in such a major task. Someone loves their Jeep compass for sure !
this is how we do alot of engines at my workshop, i'd recommend you get a table on wheels to drop the subframe on to or even just a metal frame on casters with a wood pallet on top. makes it easier to move around and brings it to a better working height 🤙
It always amazes my when you see how much sheer weight that the very flimsy puny looking coil springs have to support , at the same time as absorbing all the additional loads that actually moving at speed generate.
that is scary seeing the tumbling trans ! it was great nothing was damaged. cannot wait for the dissection of the driveline and transmission! along with the reassembly and have the jeep alive.
You are definitely a skilled mechanic and your patience is a bonus. I am wondering if you have thought of getting a work table (don't know technical name but they are steel and have wheels). It would have been helpful, I think, to just set it down on the table instead then wheel it out of the way to work on it. But hey, what do I know, I am not an expert, just a gal who likes fast cars and loves watching any car vids with her awesome hubby. Oh, and helping him out in the garage too. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
It was always funny when Ray said "remove engine" when he had a hard to remove part in the engine bay. This time he really did "remove engine". By comparison, this makes ALL other repairs seem simple. Much respect for Ray and all others that have nerves of steel, confidence, and skill to do this type work.
Its alright ray, ive dropped my transmission, it actually fell off of the transmission jack because its an unbalanced 4wd transaxle that weighs like 350lbs, and that was the replacement for the one that actually fell when it was not-so-carefully removed from the engine
It wasn't the slip that would've worried me. It was the little bowls of bolts placed near the components & the earth strap tucked into the water pump ect. All the cues for reassembly that were lost. That's what would have buggered up my day! Well saved mate! All that forward planning & precautions paid off 😃
Yes, about this “cannot be unseen” thing… A tree fell on my car, causing euro 18k repairs. Took two months. Roof, side panels, interior, windows, hood, etc. replaced… the list of parts was 6 pages. I was asked to visit the repair shop but declined. Because I knew I would not get the images of my retinas! Car was fine after all those repairs, had it for 9 years thereafter. It now has an owner somewhere in Lithuania.
Last time I had somebody hit my car I sold it after the repairs. It seems like cars are never the same again. Squeaks, rattles, things don't quite close right.
We had a brand new (less than 2k miles) come into our body shop after taking a major collision to the right rear. It got a new roof, headliner, back door, trunk, rear subframe and suspension, trunk floor…they basically made it a convertible and then sawzalled 1/3 of the car off. It was an Si or some expensive trim of civic. It didn’t meet the 70% rule to total it, so it was repaired. I think the damages were over $25k. Once our shop got it all put back together, it looked like a brand new one. The owner promptly traded it in on another car, but unless you studied it, you’d never know it was hit. I even drove it across town to put gas in it and it rode and drove like it came off the showroom. I’ve seen some seriously f’ed up vehicles that I’d never believe could be fixed drive out of our shop like nothing ever happened. We had a brand new pathfinder that had been sideswiped and then hit a tree. Damages were over $25k, but wasn’t totaled. Other than the airbag smell, you would have thought it was brand new when they got done with it. Some of those guys are extremely talented at what they do.
It's very easy to recognize that a transmission removal/replacement in-place would have been incredibly frustrating, if not next to impossible. It's always rewarding that clean replacement parts do go back together easier.
I'd be fascinated to see my car completely disassembled into thousands of pieces so I could look over everything, then put back together again. I wouldn't want to be the one to do that disassembly and reassembly, but seeing it happen would be very interesting.
Working in a shop separate large molds 1000 lbs + with a hoist take the plates apart but they were a lot more balanced and predictable when they flipped.Have a great day
Wish you'd been the one doing my oil change and tire rotation this afternoon. Took my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee to the dealership where I bought it. Even though my service contract ended a couple years ago, I've always gotten excellent customer service and choose to go where I trusted the people working on my vehicle. So after they were done with my Jeep, I headed home back to the west side of Columbus, Ohio. According to Google maps, I was about 2.4 miles from the dealership, just getting on I-71 to head up to 270 to head west across town, when I thought I noticed occasional light puffs of exhaust smoke. Traffic was heavy, so my focus was on the road ahead. Guages were all OK at the time. About 3.5 more miles as I was going around the interchange to 270 west, white smoke started pouring out the rear of the Jeep. The engine and traction lights came on, and "Low Oil Pressure" came up on the dash message screen. I immediately pulled over and shut off the Jeep. Calling the dealership my phone and putting them on speaker so I could drive, I started driving down the berm to the next exit to head back to the dealership. They asked me to pull off when I could to wait for a tow truck, and I pulled into a McDonald's parking lot about 2.3 miles from where I'd stopped on the freeway. After more than an hour, a tow truck arrived, and as the driver was loading my Jeep on the flatbed, oil just came out of the engine like a waterfall. Obviously something hadn't been properly sealed after the oil change. Back at the dealership, they had a loaner vehicle waiting. Got groceries on the way home as I had planned originally to do today with my day off. I got home, and the dealership called. My Jeep was fixed and the engine cleaned. The oil filter housing apparently hadn't been secured and came loose while I had driven it home. Even though it was after hours, they had one of their folks drive my Jeep across town to my home rather than make me drive across down to pick it up. Needless to say, it was a long day.
Hoewee cwap. What a project. You're either the bravest tech I ever saw, or that's the most crazy job there is. I was freaking when all the new pickups needed the bodies removed to replace brand new engines in brand new trucks at the turn of the century. So, I went to see RV's that had the whole harness being replaced. I felt dizzy, just looking. But we somehow just kept going item by item methodically and they drove out of there. That's what it takes. Fearless patience and tenacity. Nice work. Hope they pay your costs and labor. I found people who want things fixed, then try to help, and interrupt, and don't want to be responsible for the cost. I tell them buy an extended policy sponsored by the manufacturer, If coverage is going to run out.
@@Jay.Kellett you should have seen the jeep things we had to do through the years. It was always some jeep nobody would touch, everybody tried and failed, or nobody cared anymore. Or worse, the recalls had not been done and the time expired even for parts. The customer tended to listen to everybody except the guy who could fix it. No profit there. But when you fix a turd. It doesn't seem like it ever was one.
My buddy used to be a traveling service and warranty tech for one of the big RV companies. He had a box truck full of tools that they would drive all over the country and he would fly to meet them. He would stay a few weeks in California or Florida or wherever they sent him and repair RV’s. He said repairing electrical problems were the worst because most of them were custom harnesses with miles of wires and no schematics. He knew the basic layout for the standard stuff, but any custom designs had to be figured out on the fly. The company paid him an absolute fortune to work on them. He was a single guy and within just a few years, he paid cash for a really nice house. I haven’t talked to him in years, but he said he’d be able to retire by the time he was 45.
Roy, you are killing me. Showing me the fall at the beginning meant I could barely watch when you were under that mess. My butt was biting my chair. (Tense.) Suggestion for lining up the sub-frame: make some plum-bobs and center them in the holes on the frame above, then maneuver the sub-frame assembly so the plumbs are directly over the bolt holes. That way, gravity is your friend again.
Just a heads up for the next time you do one of the CVT’s, it’s much easier to leave the subframe/suspension/engine up in the air. Remove the transmission separately with everything else still attached to the car. Much easier!
@Roads To Nowhere A lot of people who reply here have no knowledge of working on cars. They think Ray's way is the right way. What they don't realize is that AS FAR AS I KNOW Ray came up through the Chain Shop/Dealer shops. Like compare Ray to South Main or even Eric O, and you can see a world of difference.
How exactly does the trans come out with the subframe and engine still attached? Out the top? The subframe and side frame rail block it from going out the bottom or side.
This does seem like a rather convoluted way that Ray is doing this, but it seems like he mentioned that this was the procedure that the service data stated. It probably pays 12+ hours by the book. I’m not sure if he’ll make that time, but it seems like he should, even with this awkward disassembly.
@Roads To Nowhere Re-read OP's post. They said leave the subframe on the car. I understand using a support bar to support the engine and leave the engine there while you drop the subframe (this is probably book procedure), but OP tends to imply the subframe stays.
Some people are about to learn what a front end surgery really looks like and why shops quote high numbers for these jobs; it's because it takes so much time and skill to disassemble, fix then assemble it all back to spec and do it right and for an independent shop it takes you away from other projects on the schedule.
Hi Ray I worked for a small local bus company and the mechanics dropped a new Leyland Atlantean engine they were rather a lot of blue language around it cracked part of the thermostat housing they did repair it using some sort of filler. Not the only excitement I had there the fitter also forgot to tighten up the wheel nuts which I found out to my detriment when I turned a corner and the bus sat down at the back end. My last day at the firm too I went through five of their buses that day!
You know Ray it really does seem to have worked out having your own shop. These sorts of projects probably suit your abilities and bring in decent money while still being relatively affordable for the customer. Definitely seems better than the last shop you were at.
I am not so sure about making money. I know two solo mechanics who do NOT take on projects this major. Too many things can go wrong and they chew up lots of time.
omg this one made me laugh right from finding the "you must tap this" prompt in my head to the the idea that a transmission was the problem, i should mention i am a truck center and do not work on front wheel drive vehicles... p.s. this is a 4 bolt t.c. jeep, which is not 4x4. personal business so i just send this stuff to those others willing to deal with it. and it should also be noted that between dodge(jeep is an umbrella corp) ford and chevy, each of which have their own umbrella, only dodge has engine to trans bolts rather than only trans to engine bolts aside from ford starter bolts which connect the starter to the trans from 5.0 to modern variants with the most inconvenient 3 bolt pattern known to vehicular engineering
Amazing to watch this little series! I'm like Floyd the barber on the Andy Griffith show on the episode where Goober takes a car apart and reassembles it in the courthouse!
Please get a hydraulic lift table from harbor freight! SMA used one and it made reinstallation a breeze. You’ll be able to easily make fine adjustments to line the subframe up with the mounting points.
A couple of weeks ago Eric O did a drivetrain removal from a Cadillac and he went and got one of those lift tables from harbor freight you should do the same thing…👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You have almost reached a level of complexity that would qualify you to be an astronaut. This was an excellent video, the whole series is so far very educational. Thank you Ray. Please stay safe. And yes, you did make my day.
Lol, Ray about to call up that customer and be like "yeah, besides the transmission I think we will need to replace some of the other parts". Customer will be like "Why?" and Ray will be like "Totally unavoidable, some of the stuff dropped hard, could not be avoided". Side note, you usually want to use a transmission jack, hydraulic table or double winch when doing these types of jobs.
i work at a rear wheel, 4 wheel, or all wheel transmissions specialty shop, so hence my laughter, but ya this type of b.s. is front wheel drive only but the trans actually more or less stays the same and is actually quite difficult to really harm outside of intentional harm, and that is never carried by any form of insurance
much easier to pull lower bell housing and torgue converter bolts befor removing the assembly from said car so not to have to do it on floor iv done a few just a tip from one tec to another....
I've pulled many an engine and transmissions. Since I'm so old, most were 60s and 70s cars/Trucks . Mostly used a John deere tractor and a load leveler engine puller. Later years just an engine stand with load leveler though it was 10x easier with the tractor. I also fixed any other problems since everything was so accessible and a couple times I was doing a full rebuild. Since I was helping a friend or doing my own and not doing it for a job I found it to be a lot of fun, probably the best was rebuilding a 7.5L 460 ( it was a 468 when I finished ) in my F250 which also got a Carolina clutch, 1 more pound over stock at the pedal and It would pull anything, tree out of the ground, car out of the ditch, where the stock clutch would just slip. I don't know if I could deal with pulling the subframe and dropping the engine/transaxle/transmission. All those bolts! Nice job Ray!
Ray your comedic sarcasm hilarious. You can't break wats already broken 😂🤣🤣😂 from your thumbnail. Design sum adjustable subframe jacks like a tall transmission jack. Or a adjustable subframe stand for different car sizes. It will expedite the job and make 50% easier to accomplish
I was not dissapointed on this 2nd part,it's a hell of a job, especially when you are alone, you may be the only one who does a job like that without help. Great work Ray... R frm Thailand
The skill set required to do all that Ray does is tremendous and his automotive mechanical accomplishment simply serve as the platform to realize his true talent. He frames up scene after scene like a pro film making director, he ad libs complete scripts in addition to being stage and lighting director. His stand-up comedy quality keeps his audience connected. This guy is a phenomenon!
Thanks for the array of compliments 😉
Well said I couldn’t agree more.
I know right, I wish I was better at chasing electrical problems with meters like ray does. I can do basics check for power and such, but I have no idea how to chase a bad wire in a wiring harness
@@justinferguson5451 LOL I bought a mirror at auction for my entry hall two months ago and it sitting on the floor because it is so heavy it needs two studs for the mounting and I can't find my stud finder. I do not know WTF I did with it. I guess eventually I will get sick of seeing my shoes reflected in it and either start poking holes in the wall or I will go to Home Depot and buy a new stud finder. The problem is there is road construction (for 6 years now) all the way to Home Depot on Hwy 19, and they have doubled the price of everything in there since 2020, and I know I will find the old stud finder the very moment I pull into my garage when I get home, it be sitting on a shelf staring me in the face. As far as I know Ray has no ad lib for that sort of thing, probably edits those out because they are a blue stream of un-Raylike language.
@@MAtildaMortuaryserver eBay?
"If someone put it together, I can take it apart" has been a saying of mine since I was about 8. I always make sure to add "but I never said I could put it back together afterwards". :)
That whole subframe precariously balanced like that rates a 10 on the 'sketch-O-meter'.
This task has convinced me that leaving my keys in the ignition while parked in a sketchy neighborhood once my vehicle gets over 100k miles doesn’t seem stupid.
Or…just don’t buy a Chrysler
@@stevewhiting556 It's not just Chrysler; pretty much every FWD since the 90s or so is made this way
Bugger - just got run off the road into a salt water canal. Boo hoo !!
@Roads To Nowhere Please explain an easier way.
@Roads To Nowhere - Are they still using jatco cvt's
The automotive version of a heart/lung transplant! Never unsee either event. Sure does change your perspective and appreciation of the ‘surgeons’.
When the trans assembly hit the ground I just about choked on my Cheerios. Ray, it seems each day you amaze us with your positive attitude and ability.
Same here except it was RasinBrand a sure sign of Old Age LMAO
Ray, you have fine skills and even more patience. I can no longer work on my vehicles due to physical disability, but when I was able to, the air was often filled with a blue haze of profanity! You do a great job of making family friendly video without needing the "bleep" button.
Wow same for me, cant do many things due to physical problems. (this being typed from ER waiting room) But for me to make a video like this it, would sound like Morse code with all the bleeps. :)
I think I've only ever heard one bleep on his channel. Didn't he almost drop a transmission onto himself from nipple-height? If I'm remembering correctly, I think that was it.
My brother and I created forms of profanity when working on....you guessed it, Dodge products. 😂.
"NNOOOOOOOWWWWW!!!"
Actually, yes.
As usual, Ray takes it in stride. The floor is ok.
It's fine.
Working on cars/machinery takes a certain level of determination and confidence. And experience. And patience. And a few other things.
Ray's got what it takes!
He never seems to get frustrated. That is almost un human.
Shade tree mechanics brought to a whole new level.... excellent job😊
More amazing to me than watching Ray work on this engine is seeing people posting the same comments over and over and over about Ray needing a hydraulic lift table.
I have a whole new view of what makes an automobile work. Holy cow. I don't know how, but I know about all the stuff that makes it work.
Love this series - something a bit different. I don't remember another entire drivetrain out one. Also kudos for leaving the trans unit slip in - sh*t happens and you dont attempt to sugar coat things - but instead show how to recover the situation in a calm way. Cant wait for part 3 !
One of my co-workers did one of these cars with the older CVT transmission. The way he did it was to drop the subframe first (struts and knuckles stay with the car), pull the cat and PTU out, then install a support fixture on the engine, remove the trans mount, lower the support fixture, and remove the trans. The way you did it kind of a disaster waiting to happen without the dealer support fixture because the subframe doesn't surround the power train assembly.
Reminds me of when my mate jammed my hand between a Chrysler slant 6 and a truck gearbox whilst rolling around in the dirt 😫😩
Love the videos Ray
just brilliant,,part 3 coming up,,,thankyou Ray..👍👌
ray, whatever you're doing, the algorithm has taken a shine to you.
you are getting pushed in my feed harder than vice grip garage used to a couple years back.
Moral of the story is buy anything but a Jeep. OMG this has more suspense than a Hitchcock film, my heart felt like it stopped when the transmission fell. It looks like putting all that back together will take till retirement.
That was worth the price of admission. GRAVITY!
your endless optimism is impressive to say the least
Its good Friday a lot of people are recovering from devastating storms, cheers to everyone thats helping out. Adjustable subframe cradle is next in order. There's always a need for new shop equipment as new jobs come in. Happy Easter
CVT Gravity! Loved the slo mo NOOOOoooooooooooooo🤣🤣🤣 I would have taken a break myself after all of that! Awesome video!
Ray my Auto-Mechaincs Instructor, many, many years ago showed us a nice way to deal with the convertors. Take a box end wrench and a bell housing bolt. Use the wrench to hold the convertor in place by slipping the bolt through it and putting the other end against the convertor. Then just snug the bolt back into place. Very simple and no smashed fingers, toes or damage to the convertors.
😂😂😂 I'm just glad it's you and NOT ME! 😅
Respect for mechanics. Like some jobs I have no inclination or patience to deal with.
Atleast the old transmission and subframe only fell a few inches and not out the truck on the lift from 8 plus feet lol at its just the old transmission not the new one loved the slow motion view @Rainman Ray's Repairs
Wow! A lot of that vehicle had to be dismantled!
As a uk mechanic who's removed subframes to do fwd clutch jobs. I felt your pain when everything fell 😢. That's gonna be a ballache to get that lot lined up to the vehicle again. You got this Ray! Keep your chin up things happen. Main thing is you didn't get hurt and no damage done! 😊
Ackware loads like that sometimes it's hard to determine exactly what they'll do.Sometime gravity is not your friend!glade your allright.Have a good day🎉
When you first expose the complete engine on the jacks with all trans oil below it, first thought, a very messy heart transplant.
Man I feel your pain lol. I did this the same way on a caravan and I was a nightmare lol
You knocking over the cradle made my day. I feel for you. Reminds me of doing my father's 03 yukon motor swap for him. On my back, hand tools, no trans jack, and using the farms tractor to pull and set the new motor. Said goodbye to the ac condenser in the process....
Ray, Eric O just bought a hydraulic table from Harbor Freight and was a huge help, I believe he got the 1000 pound version.
The most important part is you didn’t get hurt. It will also help in positioning the entire unit to attach back to the body.
I’m sure you’ll get it all back together and running fine, you always do.
Was thinking the same thing. The Car Ninja has a table with all sorts of adjustments that allow you to put support points everywhere needed to safely remove any powertrain. IIRC it was spendy but makes such jobs way easier and safer
Yup..saw that Eric o video and it made the job safer and easier...but sometimes you gotta deal with what u got
And I know Ray watches Eric O... but maybe sometimes he doesn't learn it the first time. I think Eric even decided to go out and get the lift table from HF after he started the job rather than do it using only jackstands.
Wxactly what I was thinking. Sometimes I think Ray does certain jobs 'the hard way' just for dramatic effect. Like you have to wonder whether he checks service date and/or other repair software before doing big jobs like these. He seems to prefer figuring it out as it goes. Building suspense like a house of cards (or jack stands in this case)
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Brijant editing Ray... 🙂 "Nothing has broken yet.." --- "Noooooooooooo". Was laughing for a few minutes there.. You're the best man.
amazed that nobody picked up on you said "Taint" GIGITTY LOL please keep posting journey, its like reality show with wrenching, very addictive
Guys and Ray you be surprized by how many times a day engines come out just for the smallest things, i an surprized ray do not have a roller table for this kind of work but i say he be getting one after this, massive job for Ray and the deepest respect
I remember working on a Dell laptop 10 years ago. In order to remove the hard drive I had to remove the keyboard and screen. After which I had to split the laptop. Engineers never think of the person that will eventually perform repair on something.
I honestly didn’t there was enough residual value for a 4 cyl Jeep compass to venture in such a major task. Someone loves their Jeep compass for sure !
Like watching a scary movie. Rainman Rocks! Unbelievable patience, and it's great to see someone who loves his work!
Patience is a virtue. A quality which I am very limited with.
this is how we do alot of engines at my workshop, i'd recommend you get a table on wheels to drop the subframe on to or even just a metal frame on casters with a wood pallet on top. makes it easier to move around and brings it to a better working height 🤙
Something new,I like it,great job Ray
It always amazes my when you see how much sheer weight that the very flimsy puny looking coil springs have to support , at the same time as absorbing all the additional loads that actually moving at speed generate.
that is scary seeing the tumbling trans ! it was great nothing was damaged. cannot wait for the
dissection of the driveline and transmission! along with the reassembly and have the jeep alive.
Back when I worked as a mechanic, we did a lot of Chrysler products, it was easier to drop the subframe than try and separate the two in the vehicle.
quote of the day- "luckily Jeep has made this vehicle easy to service..."
You are definitely a skilled mechanic and your patience is a bonus. I am wondering if you have thought of getting a work table (don't know technical name but they are steel and have wheels). It would have been helpful, I think, to just set it down on the table instead then wheel it out of the way to work on it. But hey, what do I know, I am not an expert, just a gal who likes fast cars and loves watching any car vids with her awesome hubby. Oh, and helping him out in the garage too. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
Going well Ray, you could say that all jobs have their ups and downs!!
It was always funny when Ray said "remove engine" when he had a hard to remove part in the engine bay. This time he really did "remove engine". By comparison, this makes ALL other repairs seem simple. Much respect for Ray and all others that have nerves of steel, confidence, and skill to do this type work.
Its alright ray, ive dropped my transmission, it actually fell off of the transmission jack because its an unbalanced 4wd transaxle that weighs like 350lbs, and that was the replacement for the one that actually fell when it was not-so-carefully removed from the engine
Sketchy Ray !!
Sketchy!!🤣🤣
Jack stand gravity wins the day 👍
Can’t wait for next instalment 👍
Cheers
It wasn't the slip that would've worried me. It was the little bowls of bolts placed near the components & the earth strap tucked into the water pump ect.
All the cues for reassembly that were lost. That's what would have buggered up my day!
Well saved mate! All that forward planning & precautions paid off 😃
I can't wait to see the difficulty it will be to re-a line this. THAT will be a amazing video. ❤
This Ray video lots of work and as always you and you’re families be safe 🇺🇸🇺🇸
I love listening to “Stan” when working on cars too
Yes, about this “cannot be unseen” thing… A tree fell on my car, causing euro 18k repairs. Took two months. Roof, side panels, interior, windows, hood, etc. replaced… the list of parts was 6 pages. I was asked to visit the repair shop but declined. Because I knew I would not get the images of my retinas! Car was fine after all those repairs, had it for 9 years thereafter. It now has an owner somewhere in Lithuania.
Last time I had somebody hit my car I sold it after the repairs. It seems like cars are never the same again. Squeaks, rattles, things don't quite close right.
We had a brand new (less than 2k miles) come into our body shop after taking a major collision to the right rear. It got a new roof, headliner, back door, trunk, rear subframe and suspension, trunk floor…they basically made it a convertible and then sawzalled 1/3 of the car off. It was an Si or some expensive trim of civic. It didn’t meet the 70% rule to total it, so it was repaired. I think the damages were over $25k. Once our shop got it all put back together, it looked like a brand new one. The owner promptly traded it in on another car, but unless you studied it, you’d never know it was hit. I even drove it across town to put gas in it and it rode and drove like it came off the showroom. I’ve seen some seriously f’ed up vehicles that I’d never believe could be fixed drive out of our shop like nothing ever happened. We had a brand new pathfinder that had been sideswiped and then hit a tree. Damages were over $25k, but wasn’t totaled. Other than the airbag smell, you would have thought it was brand new when they got done with it. Some of those guys are extremely talented at what they do.
knew this would fall eventually close to the beginning of the video when I saw that wood on the jack stand halfway off already lol
It's very easy to recognize that a transmission removal/replacement in-place would have been incredibly frustrating, if not next to impossible. It's always rewarding that clean replacement parts do go back together easier.
Just crazy amount of work
I love your music playlist!! 🇺🇸
My dad says the same thing “if one man put it together another can take it apart to repair it”
And the ENGINEERS are sitting at home watching this ,saying 'hold my beer and watch this!'😂
I'd be fascinated to see my car completely disassembled into thousands of pieces so I could look over everything, then put back together again. I wouldn't want to be the one to do that disassembly and reassembly, but seeing it happen would be very interesting.
working at the wreckers this was a daily task, love doing stuff like this
Working in a shop separate large molds 1000 lbs + with a hoist take the plates apart but they were a lot more balanced and predictable when they flipped.Have a great day
Part 2??? I thought it was supposed to be the rest of the tear down and install cmon dude ya givin me cliff hangers here😂😂🤣😂🤣
When the trans comes tumbling down. Tumbling, tumbling, down!
Wish you'd been the one doing my oil change and tire rotation this afternoon. Took my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee to the dealership where I bought it. Even though my service contract ended a couple years ago, I've always gotten excellent customer service and choose to go where I trusted the people working on my vehicle.
So after they were done with my Jeep, I headed home back to the west side of Columbus, Ohio. According to Google maps, I was about 2.4 miles from the dealership, just getting on I-71 to head up to 270 to head west across town, when I thought I noticed occasional light puffs of exhaust smoke. Traffic was heavy, so my focus was on the road ahead. Guages were all OK at the time.
About 3.5 more miles as I was going around the interchange to 270 west, white smoke started pouring out the rear of the Jeep. The engine and traction lights came on, and "Low Oil Pressure" came up on the dash message screen. I immediately pulled over and shut off the Jeep. Calling the dealership my phone and putting them on speaker so I could drive, I started driving down the berm to the next exit to head back to the dealership. They asked me to pull off when I could to wait for a tow truck, and I pulled into a McDonald's parking lot about 2.3 miles from where I'd stopped on the freeway. After more than an hour, a tow truck arrived, and as the driver was loading my Jeep on the flatbed, oil just came out of the engine like a waterfall. Obviously something hadn't been properly sealed after the oil change.
Back at the dealership, they had a loaner vehicle waiting. Got groceries on the way home as I had planned originally to do today with my day off. I got home, and the dealership called. My Jeep was fixed and the engine cleaned. The oil filter housing apparently hadn't been secured and came loose while I had driven it home. Even though it was after hours, they had one of their folks drive my Jeep across town to my home rather than make me drive across down to pick it up. Needless to say, it was a long day.
Hoewee cwap.
What a project.
You're either the bravest tech I ever saw, or that's the most crazy job there is.
I was freaking when all the new pickups needed the bodies removed to replace brand new engines in brand new trucks at the turn of the century.
So, I went to see RV's that had the whole harness being replaced.
I felt dizzy, just looking.
But we somehow just kept going item by item methodically and they drove out of there.
That's what it takes. Fearless patience and tenacity.
Nice work.
Hope they pay your costs and labor.
I found people who want things fixed, then try to help, and interrupt, and don't want to be responsible for the cost.
I tell them buy an extended policy sponsored by the manufacturer,
If coverage is going to run out.
Yeah that's why I pay people to work on my vehicles. I don't have the patience or time for that crap.
Failure is not an option attitude! Way to go Ray. Just remember ...if it was easy, your services would not be needed.
@@Jay.Kellett you should have seen the jeep things we had to do through the years. It was always some jeep nobody would touch, everybody tried and failed, or nobody cared anymore.
Or worse, the recalls had not been done and the time expired even for parts.
The customer tended to listen to everybody except the guy who could fix it.
No profit there.
But when you fix a turd.
It doesn't seem like it ever was one.
My buddy used to be a traveling service and warranty tech for one of the big RV companies. He had a box truck full of tools that they would drive all over the country and he would fly to meet them. He would stay a few weeks in California or Florida or wherever they sent him and repair RV’s. He said repairing electrical problems were the worst because most of them were custom harnesses with miles of wires and no schematics. He knew the basic layout for the standard stuff, but any custom designs had to be figured out on the fly. The company paid him an absolute fortune to work on them. He was a single guy and within just a few years, he paid cash for a really nice house. I haven’t talked to him in years, but he said he’d be able to retire by the time he was 45.
Roy, you are killing me. Showing me the fall at the beginning meant I could barely watch when you were under that mess. My butt was biting my chair. (Tense.)
Suggestion for lining up the sub-frame: make some plum-bobs and center them in the holes on the frame above, then maneuver the sub-frame assembly so the plumbs are directly over the bolt holes. That way, gravity is your friend again.
Use a hydraulic lift table.Its safe to line up when putting engine back in and they don't cost that much.
Just a heads up for the next time you do one of the CVT’s, it’s much easier to leave the subframe/suspension/engine up in the air. Remove the transmission separately with everything else still attached to the car. Much easier!
he thinks his shortcut way faster.
@Roads To Nowhere A lot of people who reply here have no knowledge of working on cars. They think Ray's way is the right way. What they don't realize is that AS FAR AS I KNOW Ray came up through the Chain Shop/Dealer shops. Like compare Ray to South Main or even Eric O, and you can see a world of difference.
How exactly does the trans come out with the subframe and engine still attached? Out the top? The subframe and side frame rail block it from going out the bottom or side.
This does seem like a rather convoluted way that Ray is doing this, but it seems like he mentioned that this was the procedure that the service data stated. It probably pays 12+ hours by the book. I’m not sure if he’ll make that time, but it seems like he should, even with this awkward disassembly.
@Roads To Nowhere Re-read OP's post. They said leave the subframe on the car. I understand using a support bar to support the engine and leave the engine there while you drop the subframe (this is probably book procedure), but OP tends to imply the subframe stays.
Funny soundtrack to play while trying to separate stuck parts or splitting the engine from the transmission: Kim Wilde - Keep Me Hanging On 😆😆😂😂😄😄
"Jeep made this easy to service." Ray,I do not think this means what you think it means. 😅 love your vids.
No, it's more like "Jeep made this easy to service...said no one ever!" These are meant to be traded in after the lease is up, nothing more.
Some people are about to learn what a front end surgery really looks like and why shops quote high numbers for these jobs; it's because it takes so much time and skill to disassemble, fix then assemble it all back to spec and do it right and for an independent shop it takes you away from other projects on the schedule.
I have often heard that "NOOOO!!!!" All too frequently from my own lips........
I liked your short. “Remove vehicle”! Haha
Hi Ray I worked for a small local bus company and the mechanics dropped a new Leyland Atlantean engine they were rather a lot of blue language around it cracked part of the thermostat housing they did repair it using some sort of filler. Not the only excitement I had there the fitter also forgot to tighten up the wheel nuts which I found out to my detriment when I turned a corner and the bus sat down at the back end. My last day at the firm too I went through five of their buses that day!
You know Ray it really does seem to have worked out having your own shop. These sorts of projects probably suit your abilities and bring in decent money while still being relatively affordable for the customer. Definitely seems better than the last shop you were at.
i was just thinking that yesterday. his yard is full of cars, customers have to book by appointment, he's not looking back one bit. it's great to see!
I am not so sure about making money.
I know two solo mechanics who do NOT take on projects this major.
Too many things can go wrong and they chew up lots of time.
Better for him and cheaper most likely for the customers. Especially a big complicated repair like this one.
@@rajbeekie7124 yeah but a majority of mechanics you don't offset their overhead by making videos as well.
Quote of the day:
“Jeep made this easy to service.”
Okey dokey
It is indeed called the PTU. Power Transfer Unit. Or at least it is on 2018 and newer Cherokees and Renegades
I cannot believe you posted this. And I'm fricken serious.
omg this one made me laugh right from finding the "you must tap this" prompt in my head to the the idea that a transmission was the problem, i should mention i am a truck center and do not work on front wheel drive vehicles... p.s. this is a 4 bolt t.c. jeep, which is not 4x4. personal business so i just send this stuff to those others willing to deal with it. and it should also be noted that between dodge(jeep is an umbrella corp) ford and chevy, each of which have their own umbrella, only dodge has engine to trans bolts rather than only trans to engine bolts aside from ford starter bolts which connect the starter to the trans from 5.0 to modern variants with the most inconvenient 3 bolt pattern known to vehicular engineering
Happy Good Friday Ray. Major components assembly gravity.
Amazing to watch this little series! I'm like Floyd the barber on the Andy Griffith show on the episode where Goober takes a car apart and reassembles it in the courthouse!
Please get a hydraulic lift table from harbor freight! SMA used one and it made reinstallation a breeze. You’ll be able to easily make fine adjustments to line the subframe up with the mounting points.
Yay can't wait to see how he does that.
Watching this makes me feel so glad I got out of that kind of work when I did before that kind of procedure became commonplace.
A couple of weeks ago Eric O did a drivetrain removal from a Cadillac and he went and got one of those lift tables from harbor freight you should do the same thing…👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
i always keep strut on the vehicle.. and if spindles comes off easy i leave them on the struts.. less weight to mess around
Well done mate.. frightening!
I love that "When it kinda tipped"
You have almost reached a level of complexity that would qualify you to be an astronaut. This was an excellent video, the whole series is so far very educational. Thank you Ray. Please stay safe. And yes, you did make my day.
Awesome fall & recovery. I’ll give that an 8 1/2 points. Almost stuck the “Landing”. 😊
Lol, Ray about to call up that customer and be like "yeah, besides the transmission I think we will need to replace some of the other parts". Customer will be like "Why?" and Ray will be like "Totally unavoidable, some of the stuff dropped hard, could not be avoided".
Side note, you usually want to use a transmission jack, hydraulic table or double winch when doing these types of jobs.
nice work ray great to watch have great weekend
i work at a rear wheel, 4 wheel, or all wheel transmissions specialty shop, so hence my laughter, but ya this type of b.s. is front wheel drive only but the trans actually more or less stays the same and is actually quite difficult to really harm outside of intentional harm, and that is never carried by any form of insurance
much easier to pull lower bell housing and torgue converter bolts befor removing the assembly from said car so not to have to do it on floor iv done a few just a tip from one tec to another....
I've pulled many an engine and transmissions. Since I'm so old, most were 60s and 70s cars/Trucks .
Mostly used a John deere tractor and a load leveler engine puller. Later years just an engine stand with load leveler though it was 10x easier with the tractor.
I also fixed any other problems since everything was so accessible and a couple times I was doing a full rebuild. Since I was helping a friend or doing my own and not doing it for a job I found it to be a lot of fun, probably the best was rebuilding a 7.5L 460 ( it was a 468 when I finished ) in my F250 which also got a Carolina clutch, 1 more pound over stock at the pedal and It would pull anything, tree out of the ground, car out of the ditch, where the stock clutch would just slip.
I don't know if I could deal with pulling the subframe and dropping the engine/transaxle/transmission. All those bolts!
Nice job Ray!
Not sure what you'll put the motor on but I use an old tire to set them on while I work on other items.
that cut away before the intro 😂
Ray your comedic sarcasm hilarious. You can't break wats already broken 😂🤣🤣😂 from your thumbnail. Design sum adjustable subframe jacks like a tall transmission jack. Or a adjustable subframe stand for different car sizes. It will expedite the job and make 50% easier to accomplish
Amazing process....the wizard is at work
I was not dissapointed on this 2nd part,it's a hell of a job, especially when you are alone, you may be the only one who does a job like that without help.
Great work Ray...
R frm Thailand
Tom Macdonald in the background, I love it! Great video, been a fan of your videos for a long time now. Hope you hit 500K soon.