Like I've said many times, Farhan set this franchise back a decade. Worst hire ever. I'm now more angry with ownership than Farhan. What were those bozos thinking??
I can remember years ago the Yankees said the Giants had absolutely nothing in their system they’d be interested in, what a fucking embarrassment and nothing has changed.
If you guys have talked about the MLB lottery at length with your opinions please disregard this comment but if you have not I would love to know your guys spin on it.
Giants are in a rough spot. They have to sign there international draft players this year and not wait for Sasaki as they could end up losing everyone if they don’t sign those players on the 15th and wait for Sasaki. I feel they have to sign those 3 international players then get Alonzo and trade for Castillo or Alcantera. Take the lump in next yrs draft and start redrafting the following yr.
It’s definitely frustrating for sure. Could change very quickly but until it does it’s going to keep preventing them from really being able to make the moves they want.
SF farm has an unfair ranking. They have a lot of good pitching prospects that got moved to the 40 man roster last season and none of them are being considered in rankings. Some good relief prospects currently on the way up too like Harris and Crawford
Why do teams like the D-Rays, LA, and even A’s are able to consistently draft & develop?? Where are the Giants failing in those areas and where is the accountability?
There’s for sure been something wrong on either the scouting side or the development side. I felt like for years they drafted high floor-low ceiling players and that limited their ability to get those top 100 type prospects that scouts and publications love. They changed their draft philosophy in 2023 to getting more toolsy players though, so we’ll see soon enough if it pays dividends for them. The only thing I’d push back on is LA really hasn’t done any better of a job at actually developing players internally. If you look at what their system has produced over the last 6-7 years it’s been no better than what SF has produced. But, the one thing they do significantly better at is trading those young players for stars before they lose value.
I'd push back on your push back that LA hasn't done any better developing players internally. At one point in 2024, LA had 5 draftees (Miller, Stone, Knack, Ryan, Wrobleski) from 2020 and 2021 in the rotation pitch meaningful innings down the stretch. BA recently did a redraft of 2020 and had Miller, Knack, Stone go 16-18 overall. Stone was the 2nd to last pick of the 2020 draft, LA taught him a 70 grade change-up that helped turn him into a #2/3 starter and developed an unknown River Ryan they got in a trade for a DFA'd Matt Beaty into a top prospect with frontline starter potential. Granted they both got hurt but these examples speak to what they've done developing players with low draft capital and relative unknowns turning them into solid big leaguers. LA has been right more often than not in which prospects to deal but there are good players in the majors LA has drafted and developed they traded away: for Glasnow LA gave up a solid mid rotation starter for TB in Pepiot and a useful piece in DeLuca, Kremer is a solid starter for the Orioles, Busch is the starting 1st baseman for the Cubs, Connor Wong is the starting catcher for Boston from the Betts trade (borderline All Star performance last year). I'm not including Yordan Alvarez because he was barely in the LA system.
@ the reality is, all the players you listed aren’t more than what SF has produced in the same period. That was my point. And yes, like I said, them being willing to deal prospects for stars while they have value is the main differentiator.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on the value on what SF and LA has produced in that period. In 2024, Stone had nearly 2 WAR and Knack had almost 1 WAR in part of a season so if you want to measure by WAR, Stone himself produced more WAR than Birdsong and Harrison combined. I just don't see what the SF has produced rivaling the depth and upside LA has produced. Agree to disagree. I think you missed my point, how do these prospects have value? LA develops that value internally by making prospects the best versions of themselves through their system and other teams value them highly. I listed those players that LA developed and traded and gone on to succeed, I can't really think of any for the Giants besides Reynolds. LA developed surplus talent to be traded away to contend and still has a better and deeper system than SF, that ability to develop talent is the main differentiator vs willing to trade prospects with value
I don't think I'm going to have much interest in the upcoming season. Instead of a bunch of 3-2 games, the team will most likely produce 8-7 games. The franchise traded pitching for hitting, while not really doing anything else. It'll be a repeat of last season, hovering around 500. No thanks!
Giants have 100 million to burn this year. What is this team doing lol. You need asses in the seats to bring in money. Sign Pete and Bregman. Team full of rookies sounds awful. You guys are the damn GIANTS. Act like the champions you guys are.
Thank God you guys don't run the team. F all that. Have balls trade anyone. We need a shake up. You guys just sit here and say we ain't got nothing so I guess we can't do nothing. Nonsense. Trade fitzgerald and Harrison and those kind of guys and wisenhunt. Get a game changer
“You guys just sit here and say we ain’t got nothing so we can’t do nothing.” It’s almost like that’s not at all what was said or even implied. As to all the rest of what you put, maybe listen to all of our shows and you’ll notice you didn’t put a single thing we haven’t already suggested multiple times.
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Appreciate the update, guys! All this is good to know!
Like I've said many times, Farhan set this franchise back a decade. Worst hire ever. I'm now more angry with ownership than Farhan. What were those bozos thinking??
Spot on. Wasted 6 years.
The player development people need to prioritize durability more than they do… the frequency of injury in the farm shows a big flaw in evaluation.
Sabin Ceballos, could be in AA next year and he looked he really sharp in high A.We weren't expecting that from him.
I can remember years ago the Yankees said the Giants had absolutely nothing in their system they’d be interested in, what a fucking embarrassment and nothing has changed.
If you guys have talked about the
MLB lottery at length with your opinions please disregard this comment but if you have not I would love to know your guys spin on it.
Giants are in a rough spot. They have to sign there international draft players this year and not wait for Sasaki as they could end up losing everyone if they don’t sign those players on the 15th and wait for Sasaki. I feel they have to sign those 3 international players then get Alonzo and trade for Castillo or Alcantera. Take the lump in next yrs draft and start redrafting the following yr.
So embarassing that our farm system is this weak outside of Eldridge
It’s definitely frustrating for sure. Could change very quickly but until it does it’s going to keep preventing them from really being able to make the moves they want.
SF farm has an unfair ranking. They have a lot of good pitching prospects that got moved to the 40 man roster last season and none of them are being considered in rankings. Some good relief prospects currently on the way up too like Harris and Crawford
Why do teams like the D-Rays, LA, and even A’s are able to consistently draft & develop?? Where are the Giants failing in those areas and where is the accountability?
There’s for sure been something wrong on either the scouting side or the development side. I felt like for years they drafted high floor-low ceiling players and that limited their ability to get those top 100 type prospects that scouts and publications love. They changed their draft philosophy in 2023 to getting more toolsy players though, so we’ll see soon enough if it pays dividends for them.
The only thing I’d push back on is LA really hasn’t done any better of a job at actually developing players internally. If you look at what their system has produced over the last 6-7 years it’s been no better than what SF has produced. But, the one thing they do significantly better at is trading those young players for stars before they lose value.
I'd push back on your push back that LA hasn't done any better developing players internally. At one point in 2024, LA had 5 draftees (Miller, Stone, Knack, Ryan, Wrobleski) from 2020 and 2021 in the rotation pitch meaningful innings down the stretch.
BA recently did a redraft of 2020 and had Miller, Knack, Stone go 16-18 overall. Stone was the 2nd to last pick of the 2020 draft, LA taught him a 70 grade change-up that helped turn him into a #2/3 starter and developed an unknown River Ryan they got in a trade for a DFA'd Matt Beaty into a top prospect with frontline starter potential. Granted they both got hurt but these examples speak to what they've done developing players with low draft capital and relative unknowns turning them into solid big leaguers.
LA has been right more often than not in which prospects to deal but there are good players in the majors LA has drafted and developed they traded away: for Glasnow LA gave up a solid mid rotation starter for TB in Pepiot and a useful piece in DeLuca, Kremer is a solid starter for the Orioles, Busch is the starting 1st baseman for the Cubs, Connor Wong is the starting catcher for Boston from the Betts trade (borderline All Star performance last year). I'm not including Yordan Alvarez because he was barely in the LA system.
@ the reality is, all the players you listed aren’t more than what SF has produced in the same period.
That was my point. And yes, like I said, them being willing to deal prospects for stars while they have value is the main differentiator.
LA doing this without a top draft pick in a decade. Teams clearly like what the Dodgers have
We'll just have to agree to disagree on the value on what SF and LA has produced in that period. In 2024, Stone had nearly 2 WAR and Knack had almost 1 WAR in part of a season so if you want to measure by WAR, Stone himself produced more WAR than Birdsong and Harrison combined. I just don't see what the SF has produced rivaling the depth and upside LA has produced. Agree to disagree.
I think you missed my point, how do these prospects have value? LA develops that value internally by making prospects the best versions of themselves through their system and other teams value them highly. I listed those players that LA developed and traded and gone on to succeed, I can't really think of any for the Giants besides Reynolds. LA developed surplus talent to be traded away to contend and still has a better and deeper system than SF, that ability to develop talent is the main differentiator vs willing to trade prospects with value
If it makes people feel better: the Orioles acquired Austin Slater last summer to LOL bat leadoff and he subsequently torpedoed their season
Dodgers usually pick only twice in the first 160 picks and they rank 8th lol. Thats hilarious
I don't think I'm going to have much interest in the upcoming season. Instead of a bunch of 3-2 games, the team will most likely produce 8-7 games. The franchise traded pitching for hitting, while not really doing anything else. It'll be a repeat of last season, hovering around 500. No thanks!
Giants have 100 million to burn this year. What is this team doing lol. You need asses in the seats to bring in money. Sign Pete and Bregman. Team full of rookies sounds awful. You guys are the damn GIANTS. Act like the champions you guys are.
Thank God you guys don't run the team. F all that. Have balls trade anyone. We need a shake up. You guys just sit here and say we ain't got nothing so I guess we can't do nothing. Nonsense. Trade fitzgerald and Harrison and those kind of guys and wisenhunt. Get a game changer
“You guys just sit here and say we ain’t got nothing so we can’t do nothing.”
It’s almost like that’s not at all what was said or even implied. As to all the rest of what you put, maybe listen to all of our shows and you’ll notice you didn’t put a single thing we haven’t already suggested multiple times.