I really miss football from these days - both the way it was played and the way it was covered on TV. Today is too much hype and distractions from the actual game.
There was no bigger college football game than this one and you had to be around to understand why. It was the beginning of the TV revolution in the NCAA football era. 33 players from this game went into the pros. Ara tied one for the Gipper.
The most interesting part is, ND and MSU weren't even supposed to meet when the 1966 schedule was first drawn up. Iowa had been the ninth game on the ND schedule for years, and was supposed to be in both 1965 and '66. Then in 1960, Iowa suddenly dropped ND after 1964. MSU was available and agreed to play ND both years.
@@charleswoodhouse4754 Those were some of the guys that were on the Vikings teams that were undefeated against the Lions from 1968 until the 2nd meeting of 1974
This game was played on my tenth birthday! We watched it at home on WNDU, South Bend's NBC affiliate. All ND games were televised in South Bend, including away games. I still rate the '66 squad as Ara's best team. They notched six shutouts and really should have had eight.
Jim Lynch was a linebacker and team captain. Bud Wilkinson mistakenly referred to him as Dick Lynch during the second quarter of the MSU game. He remembered Dick Lynch very well - Lynch scored the lone touchdown for ND that snapped Oklahoma's 47-game winning streak in 1957.
@@ronniebishop2496 ND used a 4-4, or split six defensive alignment. Alan Page was one defensive end and the other was Tom Rhoads. Pete Duranko played defensive tackle and I'm going to have to look up the other defensive tackle. I'm pretty sure Lynch was an inside linebacker, but he may have played on the outside.
There was a ton of controversy when this was played with Notre Dame knowing if they tied they would win the national champions (which at that time was done before the Bowl Games as not all schools participated in Bowl Games at the time).
ND did have one game left the following week, at USC which was not very good that year (ND won 51-0). MSU had gone to the Rose Bowl the previous season and at the time the Big Ten rules said you could not go to bowl games two years in a row.
@@JStarStar00 Right. but at that time the Bowls were considered "exhibitions" and not officially considered in national championship voting, which was done before the Bowls. This and two other instances that came after this resulted in the national championship being decided after the bowls.
Walt Gekko: AP did hold a post-bowl final poll after the 1965 season. UPI poll did not take bowl games into consideration. MSU was the UPI champion in 1965, going 10-0 before losing the Rose Bowl 14-12 to UCLA on Jan. 1, 1966. AP then did a post bowl game poll so Alabama could be named national champion. Today, nobody seriously argues that MSU was national champion of 1965.
@@JStarStar00 Of course, but that was the rules then. UPI in those days was considered the official poll and continued to be until USA TODAY took that over (originally with CNN) in 1982 I believe.
5:15 - 5:30 The 50-yard-line camera went out. In those early days of behemoth color cameras with their delicate balance of imaging tubes, this was not unusual. 7:58 Chris Schenkel acknowledges the failure of the 50- and 25-yard-line cameras. 8:35 The 50-yard-line camera is working again.
49:27 Duffy Daugherty goes for it and converts on fourth down at his 29-yard line late in a tie game. 52:05 But with 4th and 5 on the same drive, Daugherty punts.
Portions of it still exist, most notably both scoring drives that originated in the second quarter. No first quarter footage is known to have survived.
George Webster was in a class . Ask the players , some people forget how great he was . Also like alot of players in the nfl Webster,Unitas got the shaft for benefits . Upshaw was a louse as a rep for the players ,tho he took care of his arse .Talked to alot of former players they should know . I don't.
Although ND (rightly) catches hell for running out the clock on the tie, they DID go for it on 4th/1 on their own 40, with 12 seconds left. Had MSU made the stop, they had 1 time out left, so they probably would have had time for two or three plays. They also had an all-American WR in Gene Washington and a pretty good FG kicker in Dick Kenney so they would have had at least some chance at a win.
Ara goes for the tie instead of the win. They were moving the ball pretty well. It’s like kissing your sister. Have not been a Notre Dame fan since 1966
McKay supposedly told his players, "Guys, forget this game. There are 700 million people in China who don't know anything about it." Then he continued, "The next day, a guy called me from China and asked, 'What happened, Coach?'"
Before this game, USC had quite a number of players suddenly declared ineligible. They were underdogs before, now it was going to be near impossible to beat the Irish.
The team that would have REALLY beaten both teams was the 1971 University of Nebraska Cornhuskers. Perhaps the most complete team of all time. My only other choice would be the 1995 Nebraska team that pulverized a strong Florida team 62-24. That same Alabama team of 1966 had to survive a late field goal attempt by Tennessee to remain unblemished. What is so incredibly impressive about that Nebraska team is that Big Eight teams finished 1,2,3 in the polls that year!! Playing the strongest competition in the country they only had one game that wasn't over by halftime. The game of the Century versus the Oklahoma Sooners. Oklahoma's State of the Art Wishbone was the only team that could sustain a consistent attack against that incredible Husker defense. For verification of their greatness, Alabama's Bear Bryant said of them, "We were beaten soundly by a far superior team. I wouldn't have minded our bunch playing lousy if we could have lucked out and won. But they toyed with us most of the time. Nebraska might have been the greatest I've ever seen." Later Bryant recanted and said they WERE the best ever. They had everything. Size, speed and incredible physical strength. The offense was perfectly balanced. As for the special teams, they produced punt return touchdowns against Oklahoma and Alabama!! No doubt the biggest reason why they were so great was that Devaney had been embarrassed twice by the Tide. Smaller but faster, Alabama convinced Devaney to upgrade. The Corhuskers acquired Size and Speed. Amplified by the best conditioning program in the country. When Bear Bryant says you were the best, you were the best. The numbers don't lie. Down 28-0 at halftime. Losing by a final margin of 38-6. What a team!!
The famous (infamous?) Poll Bowl. Becasuse of the stupid Big Ten bowl rules Big Ten Champion Michigan couldn't play in the Rose Bowl, or any other bowl game.
@@dondavis7687 , ... Wasn't Notre Dame practically all white? The Great Alan Page was the only Black player on ND's 1966 team that I'm aware of. According to the UP Coaches Poll Alabama beat more top 20 teams than Notre Dame in 1966.
Ara was quoted as saying. "We'd fought hard to come back and tie it up. After all that, I didn't want to risk giving it to them cheap. You get reckless and it can cost you the game. I wasn't going to do a jackass thing like that at this point."
I don't care what all the pundits say...for example how Cowherd slobbers all over USC's knob, saying its LA, palm trees, great weather blah blah blah--All that is irrelevant, to most kids who really wanna be a champion...These 2 teams were the best because they had the best coaches, period...Its ways gonna be that way. Find out where the best coaches go and you'll out who's competing for championships....To me Ara was the best and so were his teams...Look at the U now, they still get those amazing athletes as does USC but just normal teams....Look at Bama, pre Saban/post Bear just an average team that had some winners but not year in and out...LSU seems to have found their guy now and could end up being special but they had some very average years...Dabo, great coach/great teams...No doubt about Urban Meyer so look at all his teams--hed the best coach therefore his teams are always the best....Look at osu post woody just a bunch of average teams that competed here or there, even w John Cooper they had NFL teams every year but couldn't beat Michigan..Theres example after example...So the best teams are always coached by the best and it is an absolute necessity to have the Coach 1st, the kids will always follow, at least the ones that matter and are winners
I think the more impressive part of this is the fact that we found this game in color, let alone in good condition. Awesome find!
Thank you for uploading this. This is a piece of history that I have never seen till today.
I really miss football from these days - both the way it was played and the way it was covered on TV. Today is too much hype and distractions from the actual game.
Who else misses college football games with majority white players?
@@RK-um9tuthat’s not really the point. Everything now is focused on gambling rather than the actual game.
@@RK-um9tuthat’s not really the point. Everything now is focused on gambling rather than the actual game.
All of those future NFL stars on the field...no wonder these were undefeated teams.
I was at this game with my dad, sitting in the N end zone above the locker room tunnel.
There was no bigger college football game than this one and you had to be around to understand why. It was the beginning of the TV revolution in the NCAA football era. 33 players from this game went into the pros. Ara tied one for the Gipper.
The most interesting part is, ND and MSU weren't even supposed to meet when the 1966 schedule was first drawn up. Iowa had been the ninth game on the ND schedule for years, and was supposed to be in both 1965 and '66. Then in 1960, Iowa suddenly dropped ND after 1964. MSU was available and agreed to play ND both years.
Tons of future pros on both teams.
Three names I recognize quickly, being a Vikings fan from way back - Alan Page from ND, and Clint Jones and Gene Washington from MSU.
@@scottlaplantelaplante990 yep. Lions fan. Remember being terrorized by those guys as a kid
@@charleswoodhouse4754 Those were some of the guys that were on the Vikings teams that were undefeated against the Lions from 1968 until the 2nd meeting of 1974
Jim Lynch of the Kansas City Chiefs defensive captain for Notre dame?
This game was played on my tenth birthday! We watched it at home on WNDU, South Bend's NBC affiliate. All ND games were televised in South Bend, including away games. I still rate the '66 squad as Ara's best team. They notched six shutouts and really should have had eight.
Happy birthday 🎉 I was raised in South Bend.
@@stephaniestanley8041 And we left South Bend the following April for New Jersey. I can still get around town just fine without a map.
I agree. The '66 Irish were Ara's best team. No question, the best defense during Ara's tenure.
@@jgowin66 Terry Hanratty said it was easy to play QB on that squad.
Michigan State had a Namesake Offensive Tackle named Jerry West! Cool.😎🏀🏈B.W.
Here’s the team I saw at Oklahoma and I remember very well a tackle named Lynch, on defense. Wow he was dangerous.
Jim Lynch was a linebacker and team captain. Bud Wilkinson mistakenly referred to him as Dick Lynch during the second quarter of the MSU game. He remembered Dick Lynch very well - Lynch scored the lone touchdown for ND that snapped Oklahoma's 47-game winning streak in 1957.
@@8avexp was there another Lynch at ND that played defense tackle, do you know who I’m talking about? Or who was the tackle that lined up crossways?
@@ronniebishop2496 ND used a 4-4, or split six defensive alignment. Alan Page was one defensive end and the other was Tom Rhoads. Pete Duranko played defensive tackle and I'm going to have to look up the other defensive tackle. I'm pretty sure Lynch was an inside linebacker, but he may have played on the outside.
Gene Washington 84 and Clint Jones 26 Michigan State played for the Vikings with....
Notice how much more efficient the referees were back then?
Looks like ND had zero interest to try to pull it out.
One of the many " Games of the Century
There were three close together. Texas vs Arkansas in 1969 and Oklahoma vs Nebraska in 1971.
Three future Vikings in this game Clint Jones Gene Washington Alan Page
Three years later, Jim Lynch would face his classmate, Alan Page, in Super Bowl IV.
There was a ton of controversy when this was played with Notre Dame knowing if they tied they would win the national champions (which at that time was done before the Bowl Games as not all schools participated in Bowl Games at the time).
ND did have one game left the following week, at USC which was not very good that year (ND won 51-0). MSU had gone to the Rose Bowl the previous season and at the time the Big Ten rules said you could not go to bowl games two years in a row.
@@JStarStar00 Right. but at that time the Bowls were considered "exhibitions" and not officially considered in national championship voting, which was done before the Bowls. This and two other instances that came after this resulted in the national championship being decided after the bowls.
Walt Gekko: AP did hold a post-bowl final poll after the 1965 season. UPI poll did not take bowl games into consideration.
MSU was the UPI champion in 1965, going 10-0 before losing the Rose Bowl 14-12 to UCLA on Jan. 1, 1966. AP then did a post bowl game poll so Alabama could be named national champion.
Today, nobody seriously argues that MSU was national champion of 1965.
@@JStarStar00 Of course, but that was the rules then. UPI in those days was considered the official poll and continued to be until USA TODAY took that over (originally with CNN) in 1982 I believe.
Walt Gekko: MSU lost the 1966 Rose Bowl. They didn't run out in the streets screaming, "we're Number One anyway, woo hoo!!"
5:15 - 5:30 The 50-yard-line camera went out. In those early days of behemoth color cameras with their delicate balance of imaging tubes, this was not unusual.
7:58 Chris Schenkel acknowledges the failure of the 50- and 25-yard-line cameras.
8:35 The 50-yard-line camera is working again.
The Norelco camera the next year.
No hand-held cameras either. It would be a few more years before they were practical.
@@tonyarmbrustWasn't it in 1967 when ABC first used a hand-held color camera, during the USC-UCLA game?
Half of the consensus all-american team came from this game.
49:27 Duffy Daugherty goes for it and converts on fourth down at his 29-yard line late in a tie game.
52:05 But with 4th and 5 on the same drive, Daugherty punts.
That's the difference between 1 foot and 5 yards. Of course, you punt.
Bob Blier!
Aka Rocky. Team captain in 1967.
@@8avexp Steelers legend 1968 then 1970-1980
4:45 Tom Shane? Founder of The Shane Co.? The guy that you can a diamond from a direct importer?
No, it's Schoen. pronounced Shane.
Bubba Smith would be the No 1 draft choice of the first AFL NFL draft by the Baltimore Colts in 1967
where's the first half? Great game ,thanks
Portions of it still exist, most notably both scoring drives that originated in the second quarter. No first quarter footage is known to have survived.
George Webster was in a class . Ask the players , some people forget how great he was . Also like alot of players in the nfl Webster,Unitas got the shaft for benefits . Upshaw was a louse as a rep for the players ,tho he took care of his arse .Talked to alot of former players they should know . I don't.
Although ND (rightly) catches hell for running out the clock on the tie, they DID go for it on 4th/1 on their own 40, with 12 seconds left. Had MSU made the stop, they had 1 time out left, so they probably would have had time for two or three plays. They also had an all-American WR in Gene Washington and a pretty good FG kicker in Dick Kenney so they would have had at least some chance at a win.
Ara goes for the tie instead of the win. They were moving the ball pretty well.
It’s like kissing your sister.
Have not been a Notre Dame fan since 1966
500 American servicemen getting killed each month in Vietnam by November of '66.
Then Notre Dame went out to the Coliseum and beat SC 51-0 which gave them the national championship, John McKay has made jokes about that game
McKay supposedly told his players, "Guys, forget this game. There are 700 million people in China who don't know anything about it." Then he continued, "The next day, a guy called me from China and asked, 'What happened, Coach?'"
Before this game, USC had quite a number of players suddenly declared ineligible. They were underdogs before, now it was going to be near impossible to beat the Irish.
they were 2 great teams, coming from 10-0. behind on away turf without. Hanratty.Eddy.Goedeckend was better
The team that would have REALLY beaten both teams was the 1971 University of Nebraska Cornhuskers. Perhaps the most complete team of all time. My only other choice would be the 1995 Nebraska team that pulverized a strong Florida team 62-24. That same Alabama team of 1966 had to survive a late field goal attempt by Tennessee to remain unblemished. What is so incredibly impressive about that Nebraska team is that Big Eight teams finished 1,2,3 in the polls that year!! Playing the strongest competition in the country they only had one game that wasn't over by halftime. The game of the Century versus the Oklahoma Sooners. Oklahoma's State of the Art Wishbone was the only team that could sustain a consistent attack against that incredible Husker defense. For verification of their greatness, Alabama's Bear Bryant said of them, "We were beaten soundly by a far superior team. I wouldn't have minded our bunch playing lousy if we could have lucked out and won. But they toyed with us most of the time. Nebraska might have been the greatest I've ever seen." Later Bryant recanted and said they WERE the best ever. They had everything. Size, speed and incredible physical strength. The offense was perfectly balanced. As for the special teams, they produced punt return touchdowns against Oklahoma and Alabama!! No doubt the biggest reason why they were so great was that Devaney had been embarrassed twice by the Tide. Smaller but faster, Alabama convinced Devaney to upgrade. The Corhuskers acquired Size and Speed. Amplified by the best conditioning program in the country. When Bear Bryant says you were the best, you were the best. The numbers don't lie. Down 28-0 at halftime. Losing by a final margin of 38-6. What a team!!
The famous (infamous?) Poll Bowl. Becasuse of the stupid Big Ten bowl rules Big Ten Champion Michigan couldn't play in the Rose Bowl, or any other bowl game.
Hanratty to Seymour...
Mr. Fling to Mr. Cling, as they were known in 1968. In '66, they were the Baby Bombers.
Why did mich state go with 50 year old cheerleaders?
One of many times undefeated Bama and Bear Bryant were royally screwed out of a national title.
those Bama boys was too slow. Plus back then Bama would only play "certain teams"
@@MrSkeegeedawg guess that's why they had 8 players drafted.
@@debbiehenson1096 lmao...we know how the Draft was back then 😁😆😆
Segregation within The SEC so they royally screwed themselves!……
Either one of these two teams would have destroyed Bama head to head in ‘66!
@@dondavis7687 , ... Wasn't Notre Dame practically all white? The Great Alan Page was the only Black player on ND's 1966 team that I'm aware of.
According to the UP Coaches Poll Alabama beat more top 20 teams than Notre Dame in 1966.
Why the fuck do you not go for the W? you play to win not to tie
Herm Edwards quote goes here, " You play to win the game"
Ara was quoted as saying. "We'd fought hard to come back and tie it up. After all that, I didn't want to risk giving it to them cheap. You get reckless and it can cost you the game. I wasn't going to do a jackass thing like that at this point."
Alabama deserved the national championship this year
Bama was too slow for those teams. Bama wouldn't play "certain teams"
@@MrSkeegeedawg Undefeated vs having a tie.
@@tracecooper1129 i reinterate.....Bama wouldn't play teams with speed.
@@MrSkeegeedawg Un-de-feated
@@tracecooper1129 undefeated because they played teams that was big and SLOW. Why didn't Alabama play against Notre Dame or Michigan State back then?
1966 Alabama would have beaten either one of these teams. Ask Nebraska.
lmao....those Bama boys was too slow to beat either of those teams
@@MrSkeegeedawg In the 1966 Orange Bowl Alabama beat Nebraska 39-28 ( for the 1965 season)
Riiiight...
@@michaelleroy9281 And.......?
@@Iconhulk I'm saying Alabama beat Nebraska the previous season, no reason why they couldn't do it again
College football was so conservative back then. Pretty boring.
I don't care what all the pundits say...for example how Cowherd slobbers all over USC's knob, saying its LA, palm trees, great weather blah blah blah--All that is irrelevant, to most kids who really wanna be a champion...These 2 teams were the best because they had the best coaches, period...Its ways gonna be that way. Find out where the best coaches go and you'll out who's competing for championships....To me Ara was the best and so were his teams...Look at the U now, they still get those amazing athletes as does USC but just normal teams....Look at Bama, pre Saban/post Bear just an average team that had some winners but not year in and out...LSU seems to have found their guy now and could end up being special but they had some very average years...Dabo, great coach/great teams...No doubt about Urban Meyer so look at all his teams--hed the best coach therefore his teams are always the best....Look at osu post woody just a bunch of average teams that competed here or there, even w John Cooper they had NFL teams every year but couldn't beat Michigan..Theres example after example...So the best teams are always coached by the best and it is an absolute necessity to have the Coach 1st, the kids will always follow, at least the ones that matter and are winners