Ex-Polygamist's Unfiltered Reaction to Sister Wives Season 6 - Part 1
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Kody Brown has done more to discourage polygamy than 100 years of laws.
lol
lol gosh this is so true 😂
100% true
Facts
Precisely!!
At the polygamy discussion panel at ULV, Janelle smuggly announced that she had her own bank account, full financial autonomy and put down the woman who asked about finances. She refused to listen to or validate the polygamy life experiences that the other ex-polygamy speakers were sharing. It took her another 10 years to see the financial vulnerability of her position. Coming out of their relationship, Janelle NOW wants the legal system to defend her financial rights. I feel Janelle's pain and anger. I want to give her a big hug. And I want to smack her for putting herself in this position.
Meri is a perfectionist. She is afraid of being criticized by Kody for making a wrong decision again. It's HARD for a perfectionist to make a decision when they know that they will always be told that they decided wrong. It is paralyzing.
It's hampered her ability to move on . I feel for her because she believes in her religion . She really deserves to be happy , and her love of God will take care of her Heavenly afterlife. God sees her !!
Personally, I feel that Meri really did get the raw deal in her marriage with Kody. Every aspect and every time he pulled the wool over her, he took on another “wife + children.” I wish her nothing but the best in years to come.
Robyn's purity speech would have been acceptable in my Southern Baptist church growing up. It just hurts me how much she seemed to also classify her kids as mistakes. I was conceived out of wedlock and my mom was adament that I was a blessing, never a mistake. Even though she believed in purity culture, she always put the mistake on herself.
God makes no mistakes
I grew up Southern Baptist too and have always thought "Wow Robyn is *just* like the stuffy, mealy-mouthed women I grew up around in church!"
God’s love goes to all sinners ,or none of us would receive Blessings . You have a wonderful Mother who spreads love ,even from her mistake
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@@JaQuym Sadly one of Robyn's older daughters has an expanded version of this quote pinned on her inspiration Pinterest board. It leaves me feeling like her mother definitely made them feel like they were mistakes as well. Not just in this purity talk but until their self esteem was worn down and they need that quote as a mantra. I worry for them a fair amount.
Amanda Rae stated in one of her videos that polygamy only works if the wives get along and none of them like the husband😂
The purity speech reminded me of Elizabeth Smart telling how shamed she felt having to sit through all the classroom purity talks once she got back to school after her kidnapping, and how awful it was for her every time.
I didn't know that. Ya I was assaulted and made to feel bad... but thankfully had parents and a few other close people who were like no, you weren't the problem you where young and didn't know. So I was lucky. But ya I hate that and for what happened to her for her to feel that. Poor girl
Church purity talks before she was kidnapped negatively affected her too-the dog poop in the donut analogy
Melissa - thank you for re-framing premarital sexual experiences not as “mistakes.” That language can create the shame and guilt that can be so harmful.
Its just boggles my mind that premarital sex is such a sin but the flds will move women to new husbands for a small reason and thats totally fine but only under the covenant of marriage is that okay. But yes, shaming ANYONE for a sexual experience is so so wrong and damaging for years to come.
It’s just about control with cults.
The editing doesn't get any better. You can literally watch the whole season through the tell-all😂
Yikes!
Robyn's purity speech she was talking about her ex husband. I wonder how that made her children feel knowing that she was talking about there father
I've wondered that too. I feel badly for her children, especially Dayton, having to listen to such things about their dad - and especially airing it on tv for the whole world to hear.
@@whiterose9343not to mention that Dayton was the result of her pregnancy she mentioned in the speech. Ouch.
I heard Kristen Decker interviewed a couple of years ago and she said a lot was cut out of that SW’s episode. She indicated that the Browns were very aggressive. Maybe you could interview her.
I’d love to see an interview with her!
Thank you for mentioning how monogamy can also be abusive; it's not exclusive to polygamy. I'm LDS and have polygamy in my family history. I've never married and it amazes me how many people think that I must be miserable. Well, people who are monogamous can be miserable and lonely. I think this shows that you need to be happy with who you are and then also be in the right relationship for you; or not. wherever you go there you are.
Thank you so much for mentioning this because I don’t think that getting married is the only way to have a purposeful life!!
I LOVE your fresh eyes on sister wives. It's so great to hear the perspective of someone who has lived in polygamy. I love Sam's passion and how thorough Melissa is with her notes. You both do such a great job of giving a real person's reaction instead of the scripted click-bate that other RUclipsrs format their Sister Wives reviews in (although I also enjoy the dramatic opinions in those as well). But when I watch your videos, I feel like I'm having a conversation with a real human. I also really like hearing your kids in the background sometimes, lol. Thanks for keeping it real and giving more intimate, thought provoking discussion points...keep it up!!
P.S. - Congrats on the fundraiser!
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@@GrowingUpinPolygamy Of course! Just want to positively affirm the format and long form content. I like that you have points to make, but are present and candid on thoughts about that point at the same time. You both have chosen to live life how you see fit, outside of the religious structure you each grew up in. I love that your content creation reflects that freedom without conforming to other creators' tactics/formatting. Just like you all talked about with parenting, your videos also create a safe space to talk openly about however people choose to live their lives. For what it is worth...don't change a thing!
well said!
I loved hearing you talk about purity culture and how much it shames people! I grew up with Evangelical Christian purity culture, and the teachings were nearly identical. My first time was not consensual (which it took me years to realize), and I felt overwhelming shame. I felt exactly the way Sam described: that I had messed up, and I could never take it back, so who cares about anything? It's been 13 years, and I'm still trying to unpack and release those emotions. Purity culture has the unfortunate unintended side effect of heaping more shame on SA & CSA survivors. I have actually never told my family what happened because I felt so ashamed, afraid, and didn't want to hurt them like it had hurt me. I don't know how to tell them after so long, so I just live with my secrets.
I hope one day you find healing in some way and not like you’re holding secrets, I know the anxiety that can produce. Sending you love and light.
I would absolutely love to see your takes on the HBO show Big Love. I'm sure you have heard of it, but for those that haven't- Man is married to three wives. He grew up on a fundamentalist type compound, married a woman from the LDS faith, then a woman also from the compound, and then a woman who was just a younger lost soul type. So interesting how the show ties the idea of living in secret in main stream Utah and how the fundamentalist compound still plays a significant role in their lives.
Meri was holding back that kody left her years before. They hadnt been intimate in years thats why she couldnt get pregnant thats why she said she only wanted to do it naturally
True. Kody did “discard” Meri before he married Robyn. However, Meri does/did suffer from infertility. It took her 5 years to get pregnant with Leon. It is a sad combo.
Yeah, I don't believe Kody would have agreed to have another baby with her at any point. I think he was playing to the camera and Robyn. I think they were manipulating Meri
Thank you both for explaining purity culture in the LDS church. I converted at 25, but when I was told about how young girls in the church were taught those horrible things, as well as those very controversial worthiness interviews at age 11, I left the church not even five months later. I realized that I could not raise a daughter in that church in good conscience.
Awesome!!
Just wait til the catfish seasons, the repeat gets worse.i checked out early on in the series and came back when Christine had enough.
Please watch the look back and talk back episodes that have been airing
I agree, the catfish seasons are the most repetitive and made me stop watching until I found out Christine was leaving. Then I went back and watched everything.
Oh no!
Meri’s indecision always drove me nuts too! I do have a theory though about why Meri may have let Kody ultimately decide for her. I think Meri knew Kody well enough and knew of his ridiculous NEED to control everyone and everything in his universe. I believe Meri knew that if she told Kody that she didn’t want another baby with him, even if he also didn’t want another child with her, he would have held that over her head for the rest of (well, eternity I guess. lol). I think she knew it would be better for her to let him feel like it was his decision. So he didn’t feel like she was rejecting him in any way, because Kody is so insecure in that narcissistic way of his. He already has a past of treating Meri poorly, likely in retaliation for some real or perceived slight from Meri. (I’m thinking of that Christmas where he gave Meri zero gifts, but loaded Christine up and (I think) Janelle finally got an old hoodie to give her so she would have SOMETHING). She already knows he can be cruel and I think she was trying to avoid his wrath. I do believe Meri was in a real state of transition as far as how she felt about having another child. I also don’t believe she really wanted another one by this point. Leon was much older, her relationship with Kody was crumbling to nothing. She knew she would be doing it all alone, look how much time he spent with Truly and he seemed to like Christine at the time! (more than Meri at least). So she had to know she would be mostly alone in her house, raising a baby while Kody gave all his time and attention to Robyn’s kids. (Yikes) So all that to say, I think Meri may have been trying to protect herself here. It’s all very messed up, but this is life with someone as terrible as Kody. So glad all three women got out finally!
❤i knew you guys would get hooked it's almost watching a car accident you can't look away and you will never figure out how it happened welcome to loco town LoL 😆
I grew up with the understanding of no sex before marriage.
I had no problem with it.. Maybe I'm just a matter of fact person? I just figured making wise decisions in this area was like anything else, not getting into deep debt, etc. I looked at it like not playing in traffic. You might come out fine, you might not, but one more likely way to keep from being run over was to cross the road at the crosswalk after looking both ways.
But my parents were also not into shaming, more into just matter of fact. We did not get long talks on purity and modesty. We got a lot more discussion on what it meant to make wise decisions especially in life altering situations. So perhaps that has something to do with my retrospective outlook. I think my parents put me on a good road and I'm content with it.
I did get happily married to someone raised very differently and we have a number of kiddos ourselves now. ❤
I think abstaining until you are ready is perfectly healthy. I know a lot of people disagree but everyone is different. I never engaged in any intimacy until I was in a committed relationship. A lot of people I grew up with thought that was crazy but I just wasn't interested without some established emotional safety.
It's like most things in a relationship. You get to choose the people who have a say in your personal choices. Purity culture and sometimes hookup culture both try to make those personal choices a public issue, but really we should all just be allowed to make them for ourselves.
My first thought as I was reading your opening paragraph was that you must have had great parents - and bingo I was right! :)
It’s sad that many groups hold this purity stuff over victims of s***** a******, as if they were responsible. I work with women in their 50s and 60s, different backgrounds, and most always hold the woman responsible in such incidents: What was she wearing? How was she acting? She must have led him on. Was she drunk? She put herself in that situation. They always give excuses for the guy. It’s really sick thinking on their parts.
There was an exhibit at a university that held clothing of real SA victims that proved that it's not about the clothing. None of the clothes on display were sexual in any manner. In fact, most of the clothing consisted of sweats, hoodies and even baby/toddler clothes.
@@aznmochibunny The sheer number of little kid or even toddler outfits in that exhibit was horrifying.
@@aznmochibunny I don’t know why they think as they do. Another female coworker gets into heated arguments with them about victim shaming and their attitudes.
@@tiryaclearsong421 This is something everyone should see. Hopefully it will change some people’s’ attitudes.
Regarding their homes in the cul de sac - I had absolutely no sympathy for their “plight” of having to wait to move into their new luxury homes. They always whine about their financial problems and I think to myself, REALLY????!!!
It’s because they do not have enough material for a full show. I hope the advertisers know that we all watch it afterward and skip through the commercials. Give us more content TLC!!!
I agree! I never watch it on the night it airs so that I can fast forward to avoid the commercials. I figured out that their 1 hour shows have 20 minutes of commercials!
I think you two are the cutest couple. I’m really impressed by Sam, especially his speaking skills and intellect. Maybe it’s just a stereotypical idea I’ve always had in my head that FLDS are not well educated. (Bad on my part) I really enjoy listening to your point of view as a couple and I can tell you are very community minded and charitable.
Thank you so much! 😊
Always love to hear y'all's take! Yeah, that human statue was sad. If I had to do that, of course I'm a monogamous, I would wrap myself around my husband in a huge hug with my head on his chest. I can't imagine what it must be like to have to share or see other women put themselves closer to your husband.
In an IFB church, we used a heart shaped cake to show you giving pieces of your heart away. Then you end up with a mangled mess. 😬😬😬
I'm so glad she said "it might not be a mistake". Love that.
New to this channel but TY for raising awareness and aid for people who want to escape a bad situation. Very cool of you and not something other people are doing. A lot of other platformers speak out on the bad side of polygamy but I don’t think many are helping the victims of the negative side. Sounds like you guys are doing some of that. Happy holidays!
Thank you and welcome!
I appreciated Melissa saying pre marital intimacy is not necessarily a "mistake." Sam looked kind of surprised by that. I know people who grew up with this purity belief a lot of them have such an unhealthy relationship with sex and intimacy. It's such an odd thing to me for a church to have a stance on. I am wondering if a polygamist husband is considered "pure" after his first wife. How does that make sense within the religion? You can't kiss while dating but you can go home and be intimate with your other wife after a date with another woman and this is pure?
I am very sympathetic to Meri and she doesn’t deserve the treatment from Kody but I do find her personality exhausting lol 😂 I can see why some people don’t wanna deal with her.
I think that Meri has been through the most (awful) experiences with Kody and the other women. I have empathy for her because of her long suffering. In the end, she is left with nothing and no one for her experience.
SAM AND MELISSA YALL ARE THE BEST ❤ We're about the same age and I got the crumbled up flower speech in public school in addition to youth groups(religious and not). It was a big thing even in mainstream culture in GA in early 2000s.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU SAIF ABOUT ROBINS DELUSIONAL AND FACTUALLY INCORRECT MONOLOGUE!! loved Sam's point about divorce and creating safe spaces for kids to come to parents!!
love and light to you both l!!
Really appreciated your discussion of purity was very healing. Thank you for sharing. ❤️
I’ve always said this- Meri weaponizes indecision. She uses it as a tool to gain power at times, and others she uses it to gain sympathy or make herself a martyr. It seems a lot of times she actually has made a decision, but waits for someone else to give their input, and then she’ll say the opposite just so she can make that person look bad or look like they’re just against her.
I’m so happy to see someone else pick up on this because it always drove me insane watching her flip flop on everything the way she does.
Meri seems to have a needy personality and to also be starved for attention, so habitually uses delayed decision-making as a way to get the focus back on her. On one hand, it's kind of understandable when your husband is showering attention on his new toy, but on the other hand, it's as annoying as heck.
Okay. I agree with everything you said about purity. I do think that we do need to present to people that sex is important and it doesn’t have to be “well it’s my 3rd date so it’s time to have sex.” No one is terrible for having sex before marriage. No guilt trips, no you are forever marked by your choice. I do think we should let our kids, boys and girls, know that you don’t have to act on every impulse.
Imagine telling your kids their father was a mistake, that he coerced her into sex, without making your kids feel that they are a mistake, atleast the first 3 it kind of tells them that she regrets being with their dad and how she wishes Kody had been her first. If I was one of the 3 I would think that I was worthless and the the kids mom had with Kody are more valued.
I agree. Robyn basically said Dayton was a product of r*pe - TO THE WHOLE WORLD! If she felt that way, she could have told Kody in private and left it there. If Robyn's ex is not guilty of that, then I feel very sorry for him.
@@whiterose9343 David Jessup was Robyn's first (?) Best customer, they dated, she got pregnant, he married her, He was a successful business owner from my understanding and a really nice guy, he is currently battling cancer. He filed for the divorce the divorce papers are public record, Robyn paints herself as being the perfect wife, the documents say otherwise.
@Boudicea97 oh please I haven't read the documents and wonder what they say about her... they likely were both not perfect but ya she makes it seem he is the problem only
@@whiterose9343 that should have been private, but here is my thinking, she is likely the the only one of the wives (beside Janelle) who had sex before kody and Janelle will likely be like I was married and got divorce because I now believe in the true church. Where sobyn will just take a story and make up whatever she wants or change it to make her look good. My mom told the family that my brother was wanted just not at the time he came... but she is like sometimes my plans and God's don't match. Sobyn could have said it SOO much Better.
She acts as if she was raped and forced to marry him and was so miserable. I do not think she was as naive as she wants everyone to think.
I was taught very much the shame of it all like in this conversation. I am teaching my children to not waste their hearts on the wrong person more so than this concept of sexual purity because of shame and fear etc. I also want my kids to be prepared for making those decisions for themselves. I do not regret waiting for marriage at all but I do wish I hadn't beat myself up for feeling what I felt for my husband before we were married the way religion told me.
Robyn could’ve done the sister wives closet on her own because the 3OG’s had their own business they never asked for Robyn’s help hell Christine took care of all the children except Robyn’s by Robyn’s choice she worked nights & was the one that was the glue to that family Also Kody acts like no man has ever had a divorce they don’t hang with their children at their ex wives house he’s just making excuses just as Robyn on working Yes the repeat of the same is aggravating watching same over & over As the seasons continues he begins to be more detached from the other wives I’m excited to see what happens to the wives after polygamy Robyn is the head wife the favorite & in one season I remember Kody saying Robyn is the princess she doesn’t have to work or clean just sit & look pretty 🤢🤮🦋💋
I was cracking up when Sam said “ROBYN STEPS UP and takes Kodys hand and Meri’s hand and says how do you feel now?”
Like he had witnessed it in real time and couldn’t wait to report the audaciTEA back to us 😂
I was raised evangelical. Both of my parents embraced it. My mother now feels like it was such a waste, that she spent so many years making choices that were not in her best interest and not in her childrens' best interest. It harmed her and us in deep lasting ways. I think abuse can happen in many contexts, in an atheist home, a polygamous home or a fundamentalist home. I think the problem with fundamentalism of any kind is that it gaslights people and minimizes and rationalizes the abuse they experience and often causes them to feel responsible for the pain they experienced. It is institutionalized abuse. It may not be everyone's experience, but someone who does experience that would have a very hard time believing that these women are happy, because they believe they are brainwashed into internalizing their abuse.
Very interesting perspective!
Thank you for not showing Robyn's purity talk and not making the video about that. I cannot express how much I appreciate it. ❤
I just rolled my eyes when Robyn cried during her purity sermon - she ALWAYS cries and it’s beyond ridiculous.
And one thing that you got to consider is everybody is saying that that purity lesson is a bunch of crap because the truth of the matter is, she’s seduced the guy that was courting a sister of hers and then that was her first husband
I think Meri was guarded early on in the show. I know they all signed up for this show but as far as Meri I appreciate that she didn’t hand out the bullets people would shoot her with. As far as the purity speech it was the stupidest scene in the entirety of the show. Robyn claimed that Preston took it from her. Well if that is the case why weren’t the cops called. Sorry but it took both of you. She is not innocent and how did her children feel hearing they were a mistake. Good Grief!
My interpretation of Robyn's purity speech was that it pertained to her ex-husband. It says her children were mistakes. That was horrendous.
In the storyline of Meri having another baby.. deep down she wanted another baby and I think she was scared to let Moriah down by saying No. Had Robyns offer come much sooner she probably would have went through with it but by the time the offer came she was only 2ish yrs from being an empty nester and starting all over again at that point Im sure isnt easy. I also believe thats when Meris dymic changed so much within the family. Moriah is gone to college and other then Family functions theres No real good reason for day to day involvement with the other wives bc they are still raising kids but Meris done. I think thats why when Christine left Kody it was so easy for Janelle to be drawn to Christine bc the kids are still attached. Janelles gonna go where kids are (as moms do). We cant help that Robyn had more kids after the 3 OG’s were done.
Oh my gosh watching this from beginning is so foretelling you just watch them fall apart.
Imagine what Robyn's speech says about her kids conceived in a marriage with the person she was talking about
She was pretty blatant in the talk that they were essentially the fruit of a poisonous tree coming from her sins.
I think the situation with Mary and the decision-making is that giving the marriage she was in and the dynamic send it she could not actually be able to voice her true opinion and wishes about most situations. Most likely it's because it was the opposite of what everybody else wanted, or Cody would not approve of it because when you look at how she operates in her personal life outside the family she's very much of an in control boss knows what she wants type of a person. I just don't think that person was a fit in that family and that's To be blamed on her upbringing, and the religious repression of her, having to be a submissive wife
You should do a series on Seeking Sister Wives. A bunch of them seem to be doing it for fun, whether it ends successfully is whole other thing lol
No kody would not have said yes he wasnt sleeping with her and didnt want to
It's such compelling and complicated topic . I'm just so interested in it , and how it can work and why . Margaret Meade is my idol , and I wish we could hear her views . She studied family units world wide , and historically , to understand how family life connects to society as a whole , and its cultural development.
Ps I'm an optimist at heart !
Sorry for the spoiler, but Leon's transition isn't shown on the show at all. In one of the season 18 look back episodes Leon is mentioned by name for the first time ever!
I love your analysis, well done Sam and Melissa.
I grew up hearing this. It didnt sit well with me as a teen. What is repentance for? People aren’t gum.
The purity speech was gross especially since Robyn's children were present. Dayton was a product of that premarital sex.
The purity speech. You didn't touch on the fact that she said all of that in front of her own kids that she had with her ex-husband. And she made it sound like he r_ _ped her. How horrible that must have been for them.
No kidding!! And I noticed that a few of the kids hearing this stuff were in grade school.
Oh my gosh yes the look on her oldest daughters face just breaks your heart.
26:21 but at the same time you have to remember he had just melted down Mary’s ring so she wouldn’t have any power over him.
The Miracle of Forgiveness -- "It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle". This was many a Mother's Bible to further indoctrinate the idea of purity.
You add childhood SA to the mix when a young woman who is trying to maintain her purity with these ideals in mind just further the trauma and the feeling of unworthiness aka as good as dead.
Preaching abstinence teaches NOTHING.
The truly terrible thing about the purity speech that Robyn gave was that her children where watching as she told everyone how big a mistake it was to have been together with their dad, while making him look like a predator, and them seem like the mistakes that resulted out of that. Very uncomfortable.
What really annoyed me watching part of sister wives was that I took it as drug that whole baby thing out because it was the one time she got Cody‘s attention. It was talk to her and had her time out forever. They always get Cody time.. it’s sad and annoying all at the same time
Her sort of saying she didn’t want to give up her piece of skin to her ex husband implies it was forced and her children are mistakes . She is vile
The repeated upcoming clips is a TLC thing. I used to hate it when I watched the Duggar family. I think it’s a time waster.
Great video!
I found the commentary on the purity speech to be enlightening. I had no idea.
PS ~ Props to you for being so very respectful to your family. It does sound very much like your father did try to live as a good example and tried to be fair and concerned about all of his wives.
In front of her kids she's telling them all they were a mistake. She was married!!!!!
Thank you for mentioning how many times you see the same thing over and over who edits this program.
She didn’t want another baby starting over at 41, if she could have gotten pregnant in the 16 prior years she probably would have, presumably they were trying. If she had said no he would have held it over her head to this day and she knew that this she had to make him admit he didn’t want new baby with her.
Spot on Meri never makes a decision. Drags out and hides secrets
Sam is so awesome- Melissa is blessed! Great couple ❤
if it’s the necklaces I’m thinking about. I believe almost all of them were available for sale. on my sister wives closet website. Apparently ROBIN’s wasn’t for sale though.🤷♀️
Even back then it made sense to me that Mariah/now Leon was the only one who concidered polygamy. I thought it was because they were the only "only Child" and wouldn't have had siblings otherwise.
But they must have had so many internal identity struggles that they wanted to fit in to their religion even more.
(Please excuse my grammar and spelling. Not my mother tongue😅)
Happy New Year
Happy New Year!
As someone who has seen every episode, I think your read on the wives and Kody is pretty spot on. Thanks for speaking against purity culture. It's so harmful. I remember the debate episode. This show has really gone out of it's way to try and paint the Browns as "not like the other polygamists" but imo, the exact same abuses and problems pop up over time. I don't like that they dismiss the abuses and hardships that people have gone through. I agree, I don't think people would practice it without the religion. In my opinion, the religious doctrine is coercive control. Kody and Meri's child was the only one who ever said they wanted to live polygamy...and well that didn't pan out. (Though this is not uncommon for queer people in really religious groups to try and become really "good" at doing their religion).
Robyn's purity speech made me sick for so many reasons 1, what if the child was assulted, they were truely in love with their partner, like you both said that we are human and humans make mistakes, she just made this speech to reasure Kody that she is more worthy than she should have been after basically destoying her ex-husband as a monster.
Curious what you did just before filming because M's Mormon accent is STRONG in this video and I usually don't struggle to hear what she's saying. I have an accent that gets stronger when I talk to my family so genuinely don't intend hate just curious
They did find opposition based on their lifestyle again when they moved to flaggstaff, Meri had the brunt of that
I don't believe Meri for one minute that she was going to say yes to this IVF. Also in my OPINION Meri uses this not deciding stuff as a control method.
Exactly. Kody was an ass to Meri but she's been torturing, manipulating and driving Kody crazy since they got married.
I do believe you are correct! @@IaneHowe
I think it was a story line
I agree unfortunately. I think it made Kody extremely frustrated. She did the same when picking a lot on coyote pass.
Agree.
I totally agree with all your observations! I’m rewatching all the seasons too and am seeing all of them more clearly, from the first time I watched the show years ago. I initially thot Kody was great, patient, loving to all, but no. I thot Robyn’s purity talk was ridiculous! The first time and now, and I came from a high control religion that considered premarital sex very wrong.
I always thought Robyn was extremely naive to believe the teens would even take her speech seriously.
Spot on also on the replay replay replay. Are you tired of me using replay ya that’s how annoying it is.
Robyn knew exactly what she was doing . She undermined the first wife . Its like knocking in the cornor stone . The other wives really tried to have boundaries that worked for them , hard as it was . That all changed .
Robin plays dumb to get out of responsibility for the things that she’s done and said. She is at worst of covert, narcissist, and at best, extremely selfish, clingy, and needy.
Interesting that on the show ‘Seeking Sister Wife’, very few of the families are doing it for religious reasons
Melissa, did you get a new chair? Have you been following the Jodi? Hildebrant and the other person. They got into trouble for CA? their children. Sam, how did you support yourself after leaving? What did you do?
Meri always seemed very insecure to me in her relationship with Kody😢
I think Meri was right.
Some Christians don't believe in divorce. And if you do get a divorce, you shouldn't remarry. I don't want to be remarried because I don't want children of my own. I knew this one couple; they would make out in the back of the van while my boyfriend and I were in the front seat just starring at each other. The girl's parents didn't like him, so they made her go on a mission. I found out this because my then husband and I were in her parent's ward.
Non sister wives question, how many of Sam’s siblings are out and does he have contact with them?
I think he said 4 but I’m not sure
Seems like The Lazy Channel does as little production as possible. Its pure luck tlc gets good little tidbits.
Wait..... I thought Robin did not participate in the human sculpture?????
Wonder if you guys would watch Big Love and give your input on it....
I left the church for that reason
As christine moves in front of kody during that therapy group meeting . Go watch robyn has to move her feet closer to tge front of kody . Showing christine that she is trying to take her space . Watch fir the movibg feet
I take everything Kristen Decker says with a grain of salt. She thinks every women living plural marriage is miserable and every one that say they’re happy are brainwashed. How does one defend themselves against a mindset like that?
While I agree it’s wrong to shame people for premarital relationships, they’re are those of us who believe it’s a sin.
I think people shouldn’t judge, but also be able to say what they believe is right or wrong.
Meri likes to be able to play the victim, not take responsibility
I’m new to your Cast…❤️😉
Just wondering if it’s me.. or is there just a lack of any kind of Religious actions, following, practicing on any-of their parts…? They all want to claim that they can’t leave, or do this or that.. “Their Religion Won’t Allow..”🙆🏼♀️🤦♀️
My comment applies to the past 10 seasons or so.. not in the beginning..
Robin was about 3 months pregnant when she married her first husband. 😮
Silly question but does the dream center have a playground?
32:25 wondering if you have an opinion of polyamory in a non-faith based context? Some people are choosing ethical non-monogamy/polyamory because they consider it a more equalitarian choice.
These people didn’t have health insurance for their children! There was never going to be a baby with Meri. They wouldn’t be able to afford it since the process runs into the high 50k range even when you have a “free” surrogate.
The Brown family seems to fail/have failed badly at their polygamy.. I think, Cody and Robyn are a very happy couple, and the complete polygamous Browns' relationship is less so, in more and more stark contrast.
This is the essence of successful polygamy/polyamory, I believe, that all involved parties are required to manage emotions respectfully, and it probably is not easy to do - a lot of work and deep dedication it must take to live (happily) this way.
Add children to the mix, and I cannot even begin to think how hard this emotional juggle may get, wow 😮