The Sega Saturn Version of SotN is Weird...
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The red dagger you get in the prison is called the *Astral Dagger* . It's kind of a fun challenge to use it exclusively.
In the Japanese Version, Nose Devil is in the Colo, Sword Bro is under Olrox's Quarters save room and the other fairy is where sword is in the american version.
This applies in Requiem as well, the modern SotN port that's also available on iOS and Android for 2.99. Real talk!
never ever drive and be under the influence of anything of any amount. its not worth it. i spent two nights in jail total ( jail is a place that I never ever want to go again. hard to put into words how bad it is. nothing good thats for sure)
its never worth it to drive under the influence of anything. not to mention could hurt other innocent people in a car or walking the sidewalk, etc.
"I've had about 3 and a half cups of wine at this point. And by doing so that allows me to play as Alucard"
I find it kinda sad that the few things that the Saturn version had like sprint and the extra area didn't make it to the later versions still I do love the inclusion of Maria's fight easily one of my most favorite boss fights in the game
first time even knowing a saturn version existed, and that it was different in ways lol. definitely looks fun.
@@ericsbuds it's also the second worst version of the game despite the extra content the game plays worse than the PS1 version
@@acefreak9561 i see i see. i missed that in the video maybe.
@@ericsbuds haha don't worry for all that matters I think it's worth playing if atleast to appreciate what we got now lol
@acefreak 95 which version is the worst and which is the best?
Hands down I wish we had a version with the content of the saturn, I feel robbed 😢
Go play in emulator.
There's probably a loading screen when you leave a boss to reload all the things that were unloaded when there was a loading screen when you entered the boss fight.
PSX version does the same thing, it just doesn't tell you and takes about as long as it takes for you to realise something is up, then it's loaded and you don't really think about it too much.
The item at 1:20:47 reads "SAIN iri shitajiki" which would literally translate to "pencil board with a sign (autograph) on it". Pencil boards, or undersheets, refer to various types of materials placed under a sheet of paper for writing, either to prevent marking on the sheets below or to provide a better surface for writing.
I totally did not use Wikipedia for that kekw.
Description reads "GETTO da ze!!" meaning "(I) got it!!"
I don't recognize the pixel art character though.
And I don't know what it does in-game. It's crossed-out, so maybe a Fairy related item?
Apparently it was a contest-related item. It does nothing in-game, but there was a contest to find it and take a picture of it in your inventory to win an autographed pencil board from the main Castlevania artist at the time.
Yup! They’re autographed photos usually or little sign boards that celebrities will autograph and fans can frame.
In any case, I assume it’s an autographed photo of Alucard.
Man, I want to see the universe where Sega didn't make the Sega 32x CD and the Saturn to compete against each other. The Saturn was such a neat bit of hardware.
Damn I can't believe this guy stole my idea to play the saturn version and get 100%!
He even stole my sub from you 😲
He's a nerd! Pay no attention
He even stole your name. The heathen.
He didn't use an original console. So don't give up yet.
HAPPY NEW YEAR! The Donkey kong skeleton part works the same way. The deal is that in the Saturn version has more ground to cover because the tiles are alonged to fill the room. There's the reason the staircases pixels are uneven. So no reason to be mad haha.
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You met the sub goal for MGS! Having played both the PS1 version and the HD remaster on the Gamecube (Twin Snakes) I like the extra scenes from that version. They both play the same, but the Twin Snakes version was always my favorite way to replay it.
Twin Snakes is trivially easy compared to the original, but the cutscenes are well worth it.
They do *NOT* play the same mate.
Ah yeah the hack/mod that makes the game use actual transparencies instead of dithered messes. It also dramatically improves performance.
Yup even on real hardware
I've been waiting.. super excited..
Im playing the Sega Saturn English Patched Version on a modded PS4 and it runs and looks AMAZING! The definitive version IMO. The Saturn version has so much extra cool stuff, and running flawlessly on the PS4 is just a treat. I was originally playing on my OG Saturn with a burned disk, Retrovision Cables, Retrotink 2x Pro on a old Plasma, and it looked great. But after running in on the PS4 it blows it out the water!
you need the PS4 modded to play the english patch ?
@@DeeKomedy You need a jailbroken PS4 to play Saturn games, yes
Someone should do a 200% map run of SotN with a script running pressing all the buttons on the second controller repeatedly. Maybe just slap on a hex'd second controller to a TAS?
really fun run to watch you play. i didnt konw about the sega saturn version at all.
I dunno, it sounds like Stockholm Syndrome to me but that's more of a hostage situation type deal. I just call it advanced larping.
One one hand I have an Empty Hand.
But on the other hand I have an Empty Hand.
And on another hand...
That's three hands, sir.
30:47 played this game so many times and I never realized how nonsensical it is that that candle is hanging there in thin air.
1:00:19 Kusai Meshi くさいめし is rotten food. And the one before that was Astral Dagger
You downloaded an illicit improvement rom for a version of a game Konami doesn't make a dime on? Very cha-cha, very smooth lmao
(Your work in the speed running community is outstanding btw!)
Do more videos of this version. It's interesting to watch lol.
Alucard evolved a 3rd hand so he can hold his own beer!
1997....2023.....26 years but this game never die. I love it.
43:21 _Japanese shop menu opens_
"UMMMM..."
is this the hack which uses more RAM and improves the sluggish parts?
This is an interesting watch. I didn't know you had plans for the Saturn port despite it being inferior.
I always thought the Saturn was similar in power to the PSX, so why does this version look so much worse?
This is just an educated guess but, the saturn while comparable in many ways to the PSX, was a pain in the ass to program. Porting a game in this context is not as easy as just compiling the same source, you would need to rewrite a lot of stuff to achieve the same effects/performance on the new architecture. And the saturn wasn't super successful, so maybe Konami didn't put that much budget into a proper port.
it was a bad port.
1. The Saturn is significantly better than the PSX for 2D sprite based games, but the 2 CPU setup/hardware is very hard to program for. 2. To top it off , this version was not developed by the original SOTN team. It was assigned to Konami's "C tier" team. Konami Nagoya
It was originally made for ps1 and then ported to saturn. And poorly optimised.
A wish konami would put out a version of Symphony of the night with the Saturn exclusive areas included
We never achieved perfect emulation because of the RISC model APU chosen for the system and many games where DESIGNED by development teams around the R3800i chosen as an industrial-grade CPU with a math and graphics coprocessor (APU) clunky with its quirks and workarounds. It made emulation for the system very difficult by default because many titles where written and DESIGNED to abuse this broken state of the hardware chosen to do the business. The one core you can run accurately with JIT compilation for the R3800i on is angrylion CXE built as a plugin running in mupen64plus but good luck being picky and choosy with your motherboard, CPU, and GPU to get good performance with it, and designing an entire system around what that requires, no thanks. Before any one comments PJ64 doesn't count as it has a speedhacks menu and a per-md5 flags feature to change the way the system is emulated, meaning it'll never be accurate and has to use speedhacks/dynamically loaded mod features via flags added on top of the base emulation to be playable. JIT also chugs horribly in PJ64 so its not even worth a notable mention as an accurate emulator. I'm going to toss ParaLLE and other accurate options like angrylion out as they are sensitive, hardware-finnicky, require additional config tweaking and not easily ccessable without intricate knowledge of the emulators they run on top of. Although ParaLLE has extreme premise and would be wonderful to have as a standalone, preconfigured runtime binary everyone could enjoy if hardware dependency could be taken out of what it is as a core.
A.I. will solve this soon if someone doesn't bother to put the work in.
Ok but where did you get your shirt??
I didn't even know there was a Saturn version of this game.
oh new channel! im in!
I didn't see the video title because autoplay and was wondering why the game looked funky, legit thought I was tripping out
More people need to talk about the mobile port man it's technically based on the psp version but it is the best version of the game in every way save for the text font
I'm guessing I could recreate this glitch on the PSP or Android version by just modifying the save file to change my Maria save to a Alucard save.
PS: Both of them seem to use a facsimile of the PSX memory card for saves as a file.
Those versions have maria?
@@ZidaneFooty Yes
@xnamkcor She does play very differently in the PSP version... not nearly as broken. (Unfortunately.)
Your man steals souls, Tribute!
Three hands is too many hands.
Born out of nuzlocked
19:15 I'd like to think him telling his mom "the jews" as a vampire drinking the blood of jews, when he's actually drinking holy water!
I wonder if there is a single address in RAM you can keep at a certain value to make drops always happen.
Bonus fun if the enemy ends up dropping both items at once.
The Final Fantasy House term is Soul Bonding, someone may have posted.
Did you use the 4MB expansion card?
In the time it took to farm heaven, could have went and grabbed Alucart
What emulator are you using? I have been using Kronos but the emulator locks up quite a bit.
bizhawk using the Saturnus core. I hear mednafen also works for saturn now
Is there something better than Yaba... for Android devices? Inputs lags bad making literaly unplayble
Commentus Maximus
LOL @ comment: dormamu, I've come to bargain
Also, In japanese even in sotn is legion
I wish they would fix the screen that's stretched. It creates uneven pixel columns and some are 2 pixels wide while others aren't.
Why does the cross look all funny at the save room coffins?? I always thought it was my emulator.
Wait. Good saturn emulation? How? I really woukd love to play this!
As far as I can tell, you're is set to you being Alucard. You have all of the stats and progress from the previous file, but you are Alucard.
Born out of soft locked
It was Soul bonding that the FF house was doing
Yes, the background look broken because it's not the native game resolution due to the Saturn. The original Saturn version look like it's growing to break every minute.
I want sotn with the remake with the graphics of mirrors of fate or even better.
I like your style sub hustler... i just hope stremmers dont get the wrong idea
I've never had any problems playing the PSP version. Why does it get so much hate? Did the issues get patched?
subbed.
Saturn ver had very slow loading time
Wow. I never knew how bad N64 emulation is. Thanks for letting me know. All this time...I was a fool.
his music is so enchanting at times that I could listen to it for hours on end without getting tired of it for a second... and more if so. When I think there are people who swear by Rondo of Blood or Dracula X... they don't know what they're talking about!!
Also, take this L
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negative canthal tilt!!!
TIL there is a limit to the nmber of times DB will let you reference balls
I mist the joke
What emulator were you using? RetroArch with Beetle core? I’m currently playing the Saturn version emulated, with the same patch.
The "new" places look out place, as if they were made by an entirely different team
Exactly,Is why IGA discarded these areas!
Thats because they are. This port was developed by a lower tier Konami team. Its one of the main reasons why is inferior to the PS1 version, even tough the Saturn is way more capable than the PS1 for 2D games.
Yeah, they're not very good. I don't get why people make such a big deal about them (wanting them to be included in a "definitive version", etc.). They don't really add anything to the game, which already has enough content. The Godspeed Boots and Maria mode are great, though.
@@stpyramidsand the third hand
Question,im not from USA but why suddenly all people say A.K.A?,third hand has a A.K.A potions instead of say third hand is for use potions? i mean,what's with the A.KA thing?.
still the best sotn streamer and general metroidvania player... gobbless
If you want a decent PSX RPG try Parasite Eve
Why does this look like SOTN but the title screen says Dracula X
Dracula X is what it is caked in Japan
Why does Saturn one have so much more content?
1:41:35
Sounds like Tulpamancy to me. My understanding of it is that it's a term rooted in Buddhism referring to a type of spirit created from strong belief, but popularized on the internet by lonely MLP fans who willpowered themselves into hallucinating ponies.
So I choose to interpret your unformed joke as, "Alucard has summoned Maria as a tulpa," and then I laughed.
Wait, whats wrong with the PSP version?
WOWOOOOOOOO
What on earth is that creature.
Third hand? Alucard is MARIA? Is that canon lore?
Best version and always exclusive. And the best console !
Why did Maria call Maria Alucard
good
"The third hand is exclusively for potions".
Can you send me your save file?
The mist transformar on the Saturn version looks so bad
About the mist situation... it's not an "optimization" issue but a hardware limitation. The Saturn doesn't handle transparency AT ALL:
That's why:
- The "light beams" when Dracula teleports in the fight with Richter isn't transparent
- The background in dialog boxes has a "checkerboard" look
- The mist has a "checkerboard" look
- etc
No, it can handle transparency (both Saturn VDP GPUs can do it) it's just that it's a pain in the butt to do it, especially on the VDP1 but it can be done.
Plus do keep in mind back then when people were still using composite cables, these kind of issue were glossed over until when people started buying bigger TVs in the early HD days.
It can, but it is very difficult so.
Jesus people are still spreading this misinformation all these years later 😂
I don’t get why some aspects of the game handle transparencies fine, but then some necessitated the faux mesh transparencies
Because this is a modded ROM... and the guy who did it is still working on it... it's not finished yet but he can only do so much since we don't have access to the Source code
I’m talking more specifically about the transparency effects that were already in the game, but it’s cool how much work they put into this already.
No 100% bestiary completion, run invalid
That doesn't look translated to me 🤭
what emulator too lazy to rescroll through the video for the emulator and i'm just dying to try a new sega saturn emulator
Bizhawk using the Saturnus core, which is a port from Mednafen.
@@Teubai i've been using yabause alot lately and i did try this but for some reason i couldn't figure out the soft system reset button command. But i did at one point do the save swap hack which in my opinion was the most satisfying thing i've ever accomplished lol
So having plaied both imma say that yeh saturn is on the worst side
But it has more content and 1 time wingsmash and thus for me its better 😂
Why Sega is still using that fake transparecy?... is Saturn or Genesis?
Maria is busted
The Saturn really sucked at transparency, didn't it?
*sigh* more misinformation... no the Saturn can do transparencies.. it's just a pain in the arse to do... so a lot of Devs opted for mesh transparencies Which to be honest It wasn't a problem back then since people were using standard definition CRTs and composite cables Which would make the meshes look transparent It's only since people are now using RGB cables and HD TVs that we can see the chequerboard like effect
The 3d fx look miserable.
😀
PSX jank Hogs of War
2:28:05 0_0
N64 emulation IS the fucking worst. I STILL own my N64 from my senior year in high school. I would never get rid of it. However, I don't have any memory cards, I'm still using the cartridges.
wow. The animation for gas cloud in SOTN for Sega sucks !
What n
My god the Saturn graphics are so bad. Wasn't it known for being a "2D monster?" Yet the lack of 3D hardware makes certain transparent effects look garbage