Phenomenal video Scot! One of your best for sure. You can really tell just how passionate you are about both bands, and it is an absolute joy to watch you talk so highly and excitedly about both bands. I would go with Genesis personally only because I'm familiar with more of their discography, and no band has ever blown my mind quite as much, but I absolutely adore Yes as well.
Remember when I told that I need to get into Genesis more? Glad news... this week, I finally understood what it's about. After watching ilustrated version of The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, I said to myself... I get it. Also, "Apocalypse In 9/8" is probably the best moment in music history, and Nursery Cryme is one of the best albums in the history.
Yes!!!! I am so happy for you!!!! I love that animated Lamb video. There’s one for Supper’s Ready too. And I 100% agree about Apocalypse in 9/8: it is the pinnacle of Man’s achievements…
Always Genesis for me. Believe it or not Yes is on the low end of the prog guys for me. Fantastic, wonderful musicians bless them. I do like them, but not to the extent most others do. Nothing wrong with them dont get me wrong but i love all the other classic prog bands more in general.
Another great show! Always great fun to talk about music you love, even if you are pitting one against the other here. For me, it’s a more clear win for Genesis, as they are my favorite. I love Yes as well, but Genesis’ top albums rank above all else for me. In your head to head album rankings, other than Yes Album over Nursery Cryme (and the first albums), I have Genesis winning every one of those. But great having you go through all aspects of these bands for comparison. Very cool, and I’m sure some hard choices had to be made.
My Top Ten is: The Yes Album to Relayer and Nursery Cryme to A Trick Of The Tail. (Going For The One and Wind and Wuthering are still in my Top 30-40.)
TOP 10 albums of the duo: 1) Yes - Close to the Edge 2) Genesis - Selling England by the Pound 3) Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 4) Genesis - Foxtrot 5) Yes - Relayer 6) Genesis - Nursery Cryme 7) Yes - Yes Album 8) Yes - Fragile 9) Genesis - Trespass 10) Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans 10 bis) Genesis - A Trick of the Tail
Scot...I loved this one on one comparison. I side with Genesis as #1 although I heard Yes first and obsessed with Yes until one day just like you I heard my first Genesis album and it too was GENESIS LIVE! It was one of the best days of my life and most memorable too. I guess that also was the day Yes took a back seat to Genesis. One thing that struck me was that my first taste of Genesis was that the album was LIVE, and those Bass Pedals OMG I was in heaven, I'd never heard a live album sound so good it was mind blowing. I think that was the tipping of the scales for me. I stuck with Yes releases for awhile but unlike a lot of Yes fans after Tales I became disenchanted with Yes. Anyway Scot another great video, Keep em' comng. ✌✌
Great stuff, I've also been debating back and forth for a while on this. I liked your approach and if I apply the same comparison, Yes came out on top for me by a hair.
Loved the way you presented this one. Genesis is the band I first listened to because of my brother. Yes followed much later about 3 years. I have full discographies of both bands. I love most of their albums. I always love a good melody so Genesis have the edge but ok Yes were huge, too.
I agree with your ultimate theory as to why you chose Yes. I listened to Nursery Chryme first....therefore Genesis is my first choice. So we agree 👍 kinda?
The period with Peter Gabriel was the best for Genesis by far. The two albums as a 4-piece are good, but not as good as the Gabriel years. After Hackett left Genesis became more of a pop band with prog overtones. IMHO the Trevor Rabin years with Yes, though very different, are outstanding. So for me Yes had more longterm consistency in terms of quality than Genesis did. But I agree with you that up until about 1976 the two bands were neck and neck.
Lots of great arguments there, very well thought out; the best thing is that I didn't have to do it, I'm happy to let you do the work and I'm grateful, thanks! (there's no doubt that they are the 2 best bands).
Genesis, easily my favorite 70's prog band. Prefer Gabriel to Anderson as a vocalist, Wakeman is indeed a superior keyboardist to Banks but I definitely connect with Banks's progressions and melody writing more, prefer Collins to either Bruford or White as a drummer. The only two members I'd give to Yes are their guitarist and bassist. But musicians aside I just prefer Genesis's overall style and atmosphere a lot better, it's more impactful and emotionally fulfilling to me, always has been. Plus they're more consistent.
I really liked your video! Thanks! Really cool! Me too, they are my 2 favorite bands, but I have a preference for Genesis. As you say, it's really emotional, I met them a little before... It was my older brother's favorite band that introduced them to me... You're right, we're lucky to have these wonderful bands!... and we're lucky to have you The Prog Corner! Prog On!
October 27? Had I not already bought tickets to a show 2 weeks later (same venue), I wouldn’t have needed to do financial gymnastics to also see Yes next month. Ultimately, my friend (to whom I owe a favor) and I agreed to hold out for a possible Tales 50 tour
Scott great show as usual. Your my go to for true prog info .I like a lot of Genesis but just my opinion for what ever that means , no one and I mean no one can top YES. music is subjective to personal taste . But to me no one compares to the best band ever and that's YES! PEACE AND GOD SAVE THE QUEEN BROTHER 👍👍🔥🔥
Another similarity between Yes and Genesis is that both bands utilized very thick and beefy bass guitar sounds, which is one of my favorite components of prog. They used the bass as instrument in its own right, not just as part of the rhythm section. Squire and Rutherford utilized very similar bass sounds.
Very enjoyable video! Yes and Genesis are also my two favorites. But if I had to pick one to represent what prog was all about it would be Yes. If there was a picture in the dictionary to define the word Prog, it would be the classic Yes bubble logo from _Tales From Topographic Oceans!_ My other favorite prog groups are ELP, King Crimson and Pink Floyd, although, strictly speaking, Floyd is more acid rock.
Apples and oranges. I remember hearing "Foxtrot" mid-seventies... I was hooked. They're both great. Yea. And, of course, King Crimson. Damn, good times. P.S. "Tormato" isn't bad. And, kids, don't forget Phil's "Brand X." Peace on earth.
Actually, Scot did a retrospective video on Tormato. A fun album that gets hated on too much. Not Close To The Edge or Relayer but still classic lineup fun!
An impossible question. I completely agree with everything you said. There was a luncheonette about a mile from my house and they had those old table side mini jukeboxes one day I played the song Roundabout. Well I spent all my change for the next few months on that song. I kept asking my parents if we could go to luncheonette, at some point they realized I only wanted to go there for Roundabout. They finally bought me the fragile album. Then Yessongs came out and I played that to death. Then I went to see them in concert with Donovan, I was tripping and so Yes gets the nod for personal reasons. But yeah that budget Genesis live album got me too back then.
Excellent debate!! It’s settled… Rush is #1😏 I’m a drummer that needs great bass and a well rounded guitar! But, my second and third are; Genesis then Yes!!! All meet my rock bones needs💯✌🏼😎
Phil is the man behind the kit for me, when it comes to 70's prog. He had subtleness, great dynamic range, groove, musicality and a great tone. I always thought that Bill was best in King Crimson. And I always found that Banks was the master of chord progressions. 🎹
Have you listened to Kaipa? Hans Lunden creates similar magic with his keyboard voicings. Hey, a major chord in the second inversion is often called the “Genesis chord” when played on keys. There’s even a “Watcher” preset on new Mellotrons. Tony’s influence will never be fully appreciated…
Wow, wish my parents were as musically hip as yours, mine enjoyed Jim Nabors, The Lettermen, Lawrence Welk. I was the eldest sibling so I had a higher hill to climb than your brother. You always have such great stories, thanks for the video. I went from The Beatles to Yes and Genesis myself, the three bands make a huge chunk of my collection.
TOP 10 songs of the duo (not order, impossible): - G - The Musical Box - G - Supper's Ready - G - The Cinema Show - G - Firth of Fifth - G - The Knife - Y - Gates of Dellirium - Y - Close to the Edge - Y - And You and I - Y - Heart of the Sunrise - Y - Yours Is No Disgrace
You were about as fair as you could be Scot. Very enjoyable and a great history lesson! YES wins on every category in my ever so YES loving opinion. We really are blessed to have lived through this era of the greatest music ever created. Those that came before us and those who came after have missed out even though they can still enjoy the music, something has to be said at being there when it all started.
@@TheProgCorner I've seen YES several times in the '70s but never saw Genesis however I did see a Phil Collins concert in the 90s and that was pretty damn good.
I have to elevate Yes above Genesis for two reasons: The minor reason--Tales v. Lamb is a blowout. The major reason--both had a great classic period with lots of amazing albums, but Yes had a second golden age (Keys to Ascension and especially The Ladder and Magnification.) That never happened for Genesis.
Scot! By far one of your best videos! 2 great bands so evenly matched. You know YES is my favorite band, that's why I've seen them SO MANY times! You had a few misspeaks in the vid, but no big deal, didn't change the outcome of your thoughts. You can go back and find them if you so choose. I LOVED this vid!! I can but will not add anything in this comment. If I start talking about YES I will write a 50 page comment and nobody wants that! Lol! I want to stop this comment so I can watch the vid again and again and again! Great job! 2K so soon! YES and GENESIS FOREVER❗😎
Really Genesis or Yes... I'm conflicted. I for various reasons stopped following both hands Genesis after wind & wuthering & Yes after Going for the one. Both had some good stuff after but..so glad you mentioned south side of the sky one of my all time faves. Did like some stuff on Big Generator & loved the Drama album. You mentioned another favorite band of mine Uriah Heep. Don't know that you'd consider them prog but Gary Thain one of my bass player influences besides Dennis Dunaway from Alice Cooper band. Love your channel my friend. Also huge Jellyfish fan.
FGTR vs. Yes: Yes Trespass vs. Time And a Word: Trespass Nursery Cryme vs. The Yes Album: The Yes Album Foxtrot vs. Fragile: Fragile Selling England vs. Close To The Edge: Selling England The Lamb vs. Topographic Oceans: The Lamb A Trick of the Tail vs. Relayer: TIE! Wind & Wuthering vs. Going For The One: Wind & Wuthering ATTW3 vs. Tormato: ATTW3 Duke vs. Drama: Drama '80s Genesis vs. '80s Yes: Genesis '90s Genesis vs. '90s Yes: Yes
I grew up in Milwaukee Wisconsin. I'm now 63 years old. My first Yes concert was 1975, then the 1976, 1977, took some time off from the Air Force for a couple of weeks to see the revolving stage show in 79 in Milwaukee. These are also my favorite two bands, although I am a Rush fan to the max and saw them first in 1976 during the 2112 tour. I am a new subscriber. I do like the way that you are very honest about why you like things and why you do not. I wonder if we were at some of the same shows together, at least in the same arena as me and my friends back in the 70s would go to the Milwaukee shows and the Chicago shows, even though we were underage at the time. It was harder to get beer in Chicago because the law was 21 back then and Wisconsin was 18. Somebody at some arena was going to sell us some brewski. We just had to find the right guy.
My first Yes show was 1976 at the old Milwaukee Arena!!! So we were definitely together for that. The Crab Nebula!!!! I hung out all morning and afternoon in front (and in back) of the building hoping against hope to meet my heroes!!!! And it worked. I met Jon and Patrick that day. One happy 13 year old!!! And yeah, Rush rules. A friend in school (8th grade?) loaned 2112 to me and I never looked back!!! I moved to Florida in 1977 and lived on a sailboat for four years…sailing the Caribbean when everyone else my age was in school. Life can be so hard!!! 👍👍❤️❤️
@@TheProgCorner How interesting. Yes, I was at the 1976 crab nebula show at the Milwaukee arena. Between bands, the lights were on and I was waiting for Yes to start, the 16-year-old behind me, which was my age too, threw up all over my back and my really nice shirt. Thousands of people saw. I went down to the men's room to wash out my shirt and get back for the start of the show, when I ran into a security person that I knew. I told him my story and he gave me a free Yes T- shirt, and he took me behind the stage to see the crab nebula which was behind a curtain as you remember before the show. What a show. What a light show. I needed one of those crab nebulas in my basement party room or so the weed told me. Happy that you met Jon and the fantastic Patrick Moraz. I ended up meeting Jon years later before a show. Had a nice conversation and got a good picture out of it. Well, I will be reading and listening to more of your stuff. Take care. Jeffrey.
I love both bands so I cannot choose only one. Yes until Going for the one has a solid career while Genesis after Peter's departure started to lose their prog sound little by little. But as I said it before they are huge bands.
...very, VERY tight tug-of-war between those 2 for me too, Scot... but I slightly (if I must) lean to Genesis overall... came across them first, so that did create some home ground, but I also love their medieval, baroque touch so much... and Anthony Phillips' solo works blew me away - I absolutely adore that guy!! (he has also big 'misses', but when he hits, he hits hard!)... however: I couldn't live without YESSONGS and TALES either - I'm just polygamous, I guess 😎
Two titans of prog they cannot be compared,you have with out a doubt the greatest and most complete album ever made Close to the edge and then you have Peter Gabriel’s Magnus Opus the lamb lies down.With fragile and Selling England by the Pound in the mix,some the greatest prog ever. Two different styles two incredible collections of stellar musical talent,nothing will ever come close to these magnificent bands. The cream of prog,long live Jon Anderson and Peter Gabriel!!!!!
I love your content, comprehensive approach, enthusiasm and attitude of gratitude. Genesis, Yes (and Jethro Tull) are my 3 favorite all-time bands. If I HAD to choose, Genesis would get the nod. However, and I say this gently and with much love, I think you would be more effective if you employed a less singsong, valley girl verbal inflection. Not every sentence or phrase has to end on an ascending, emphasized prolonged note and pitch! In every other connection, you are great! Peace, out!
I know my vocal syntax can be a little, um, challenging!!! But I try to tone it down. I really do!!! Thank you for watching and I will definitely keep your thoughts in mind going forward, No promises though...
Harsh criticism. Scott's delivery is unique. Don't change it ! As for the Bill Bruford woolly hat, please take it off once in a while so we can see what you really look like. Or are you as bald as Collins, just wearing a wig ? Have you mentioned / reviewed the 1976-76 film of Genesis playing live that was shown in British cinemas in tandem with a Rick Wakeman film ? Shows Collins-Bruford duet drumming. Superlative.
Great fun listening to you go through this. My favorite band of the two is Genesis, but that is limited to the period ending in 80’ with the Duke Album. Yes, is the better band technically speaking. And because of the point you made about the long songs and continuing on in the prog tradition. Yes’ The Ladder and their recently released Mirrors to the sky are way better than the last three Genesis albums. Thank you for sharing your assessment. Keep it going 👍
I love them both. But if you put a gun to my head I’d pick YES but that said: there are only two bands I truly could not live without - Yes and Genesis!!!!
Excellent comparison! I am an outlier again in many ways. For Genesis, Trespass through W&W are top notch, can't beat, for me. For Yes, it is spotty. On their early disc's there are certain song's I love and others I could do without. Then comes Close to the Edge, which is magnificent, and Fragile which is really good. Next comes the lull. Tales and Relayer are not to my taste. Tales is melody-less and Relayer has that fusion feel that I don't like. My Yes favorites are the hated Tormato, Drama, and The Ladder. The three most recent disc's simply suck. For me, Genesis has the most consistent string of greatness. Trespass to W&W is shear magnificence! After that Genesis becomes spotty. Especially Duke and after there are songs here and there I like, but the rest I loathe! I agree with the band member comparisons mostly. The only difference would be Hackett over Howe, but it is close. Hackett is my all-time favorite guitarist. Both of these bands are in my pantheon of greats, and deservedly so! You ought to do more of these comparisons. It makes for great conversations.
Yes 1971-1977 Genesis 1971-1977 Yes 6 epics Genesis 3 epics but lacking 100% punch. The Lamb mostly a failed attempt to write catchy short tracks. The Winner is Yes
Only a brief reminder that I had Pete over Jon!!! Ha!!! 👍👍👍But the rest you should enjoy - even if I made a bunch of errors. Too much Mountain Dew today!!!
My top three bands are THE DOORS,QUEEN ,ESPECIALLY THE FIRST THREE ALBUMS AND YES YES YES ..Today I just bought the album YESTERDAYS WITH JON RICK CHRIS BILL AND STEVE all signing the album.I do love Genesis but for me give me YES YES YES.
Tough call! Their prog albums are pretty damn classics and draw, but because of Genesis's "pop era" is altogether better than Yes's', I'd say Genesis is the winner! Your mileage may vary.
Except for The More We Live (Let Go) and Don't Go, all the Yes pop songs are very good or great songs. Love Shine is the 2nd best pop song of the 1990s. Except for. Many Too Many, Anything She Does and In Too Deep, the Genesis pop songs are poor or awful. Sorry. Yes are the Kings of pop in the 1980s and 1990s.
Close to the edge(1.), topographic oceans(2.-5.), gates of delirium(6.), awaken(7.) fly from here(8.) and endless dream(9.). What are the other 2 he is referring to ?
Genesis and Yes practically defined 'prog' but they are as different as night and day. I think of Yes as being the best prog BAND , but most of the best SONGS came from Genesis. As for the 'Battle of the Steves, I have to quote the late John Banner. "I hear NOTH-ING! Noth-ing!"
Good stuff, though for me, the big difference is that the members of YES were all unique stylists on their instruments. They displayed their virtuosity within the song, as opposed to a lot of modern day prog bands where the song is just a vehicle show off their chops. The guys in Genesis were terrific players, but NOBODY sounds like Howe, and NOBODY sounds like Bruford, and NOBODY sounds like Squire and NOBODY sounds like Anderson and NOBODY sounds like Wakeman. At least not at the time. But their influence on musicians is monumentally widespread. I can't quite claim the same for the guys in Genesis.
Sometimes I've thought that Yes were a band of brilliant musicians playing very good compositions, and Genesis were a band of very good musicians playing brilliant compositions. (At least during their heyday.) YMMV
For me, I have my days where I like Yes more, and have my days where I like Genesis more. I would say Genesis had a stronger discography, but both bands had their low points, especially during the 90's. Although I do think Yes's 90's albums are better than Genesis's 90's albums. Cool video man.
Wow,Tormato is my fav Yes album and And Then There Were Three my least Fav from Trespass to Duke, just shows how different we hear things. Much as I love Genesis it would be Yes for me, and i'm a weird one i do drum and i like Alan Whites style more than Bruford's it more punchy rock than feather touch jazz, as far as putting White against Collins no way i could call that.
@@TheProgCorner Yes and Nine Inch Nails are my joint fav bands and Genesis would easily sit in my top ten. The Lamb is my fav studio album of all time, i can see why anyone would struggle picking one of these two outfits over the other.
Great video but IMHO I think TIME or YEAR OF RELEASE could' be a more fair parameter or reference. With all respect. 1969 - YES vs From Genesis To Revelation 1970 - Time and a World vs Trespass 1971 - The Yes Album OR Fragile vs Nursery Crime 1972 - Close To The Edge vs Foxtrot 1973 - Tales From Topographic Oceans vs Selling England By The Pound 1974 - Relayer vs The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 1977 - Going For The One vs Wind and Wuthering (released in 12/1976) 1978 - Tormato vs ... And Then There Were Three 1980 - Drama vs Duke 1983 - 90125 vs Genesis 1987 - Big Generator vs Invisible Touch (released 06/1986) 1991 - Union vs We Can t Danceoom 1997 - Open Your Eyes vs Calling All Stations You comparation KeyStudio (2001) with We Can t Dance (1991) !! Big Generator (1987) with Genesis (1983) 90125 (1983) vs Abacab (1981) Going For The One (1977) was compared with two albuns but Relayer (1974) was not compared. Rick Wakeman maybe can be the greatest rock keyboardist of all times. A virtuose, precise, faster but I think Tony Banks was the musical base of Genesis Music and more estability, criativity and very far better composer. Your individual compositions for Genesis can t be matched by RW. He fitted better in a group. Two Giants bands of the Progressive Rock.
Excellent summation Scott, my two favourites as well & like you I lean a little more to Yes. Mainly because Yes have been the more adventurous & truer to their progressive roots throughout their career. And they always played a lot of their classic 70's material at every gig in every era. The opposite was the case with Genesis, from the start of the 80's the classic 70's material was limited to the in the cage medley & 1 or 2 others if you were lucky. That always frustrated me. I guess I love Yes 70% for their 70's material & 30% for what came after. With Genesis it's 90/10. A few more interesting differences, Yes had 6 keyboardists, Genesis had 1 who was also the main writer. Genesis consolidated to a 3 piece whereas Yes were always a 5 piece & sometimes a 6 piece. Could rattle on for hours but that'll do, cheers Bro!
Oh yeah forgot about that one, the orchestra replacing the keyboards & Tom Brislin coming in for the tour. What a fantastic project, Magnification, cheers.
@@TheProgCorner So do I, I reckon their best album post Drama, great material, the orchestral arrangements are magnificent, and the integration was absolutely seamless. Tom was awesome on the Symphonic Yes DVD, absolutely stunning on The Gates of Delirium, such an underrated talent. So glad he got the gig with Kansas, and not only did they get an exceptional keyboardist with a great voice but also a fine writer. His writing efforts with Zac Rizvi on The Absence of Presence are very impressive, I'm sure you'll enjoy seeing them live. Alas as I'm from down under it's unlikely they'll tour here, hopefully they'll bring out another live DVD. Cheers Bro
Fermo restando che ADORO entrambe le BANDS ma se proprio devo fare il giochetto scelgo di poco i GENESIS soprattutto ERA PETER GABRIEL!!!!! Comunque che bands FANTASTICHE, GENESIS e YES!!!!!!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I lean towards the the King Crimson/ELP end of prog, while I love Yes and Genesis, neither would be anywhere without KC. Keith Emerson, in my view beats Banks and Wakeman cold. Can you imagine Firth of Fifth's piano intro not being played live? Banks couldn't do it.
The BEST thing that I ever did in my later teen years was to buy that used casset "Classic YES".. I was hooked ever since! I was confused at the time as 90125 & Big Generator existed though.. Then I bought ABWH and then figured out that this was a Very complicated band! Genesis I Like, up to Wind and withiring.. They got too commercial for me though. Their first Live album is Essential as well as alot of the early albums! I Never got into the Lamb weirdly enough though.. Trick of the Tail is Genious in its weirdness! I Love it! On another note, One of the greatest moments of my life, I got to see YES Live on the UNION tour front row in the Round stage! All 12 members playing the same show was Awesome!! B.Bruford and A. White both sharing the same stage with 2 seperate drum kits! It was Amazing, and it will never happen again.. Then I saw the TALK tour which was really Boring as hell, totally sucked.. Alan Parsons opened up for them and blew them off of the stage. The amplitheater was not even half full, as opposed to Union, which was sold out! But.. Give me YES anytime. Both bands are Awesomme though in the world of PROG!!
I saw that tour and it was AMAZING!!! The album? Not so much. But the band was ON FIRE!!! You are right: it will never happen again and without Chris and Alan, what would be the point?
When its too close to call on an album comparision, I resort to my least favorite track on each album. The one I like least is the weakest link, bringing down the whole album enough to lose the competition. Example: The Ancient vs Slippermen. No brainer there. Both albums the groups top masterpieces each with a weak link. Which one is weaker?
Hello Scott! I Adore your shows! I Absolutlly LOVE YES! Genesis = .. I can not get into them.. I Like their main Gabriel Main old albums, (up to the LIVE Album), as they are ok. I "TRIED" listening to "Selling England" tonight.. The hype about this album is Huge, and I could not stand this album! I really do not know what the hype about this album is?? I think that "Trick of the Tail" is far better, a little bit?? I will try "Wind" tommorow.. I Absoltely HATE the newer stuff! Invidual Touch is the only last good thing that they put out, IMHO..I cant dance and Jesus SUCKS!! And Yes I have hear both albums
@@TheProgCorner Yes wins 8 out of 10 on the album matchups, losing only Fragile (you know my problems with that, and it still barely loses to Foxtrot), and of course Tormato. And my #2 band is ELP. They did Bartok, Mussorgsky, Tchaikovsky, Copland, Ginastera, etc., which appeals to my classical side (and of course, with The Nice, Emerson did some Sibelius, my co-#1 composer along with Haydn), but I think Yes still edges them out based on longevity and variety -- and the Rabin era helps them with this factor. KC would be my #3, although I might say that they're actually #3, 4 and 5 (Red era, Discipline era and original lineup), and then maybe Genesis or Floyd. Or possibly Porcupine Tree; there is so much good stuff there, too, even before Gavin joined. And The Pineapple Thief as well, also including its pre-Gavin albums. Of course, Gavin elevated both bands, but they were already very good.
I don't really know whom I would pick. But what I would like to point out is that, even if Yes didn't record a single album in the 80's, I would have preferred them to Genesis as an 80's band. Genesis for me is a 70s band, everything they puked on the public after that is Muzak to my ears.
Two great bands but over their respective careers, Genesis were more progressive than Yes. While Yes generally remained faithful to the style they employed in their youth, Genesis moved with the times and with their ever progressing maturity. This is not to say that I dislike yes. On the contrary I think their music is magnificent. But Genesis is my favourite. From the first Genesis album right through to the last, each one is different from its predecessor showing the progression that Genesis employed.
I just want to say that this is one of the best channels on youtube right now. It's your energy, storytelling and humor. Keep going man!
Couldn't agree more! Scot is AWESOME!😎
No stopping The Prog Corner. We’re (I’m) just getting warmed up!!!
@@TheProgCorner 😎
Well said! 😉👍
@@TheProgCorner we haven't seen Scot in his final form
Love this ! ' I wouldn't want to live in a world without Supper's Ready. I would not want to live in a world without Close to the Edge. ' Agreed.
Phenomenal video Scot! One of your best for sure. You can really tell just how passionate you are about both bands, and it is an absolute joy to watch you talk so highly and excitedly about both bands. I would go with Genesis personally only because I'm familiar with more of their discography, and no band has ever blown my mind quite as much, but I absolutely adore Yes as well.
You can’t go wrong with either!!!
Remember when I told that I need to get into Genesis more? Glad news... this week, I finally understood what it's about. After watching ilustrated version of The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, I said to myself... I get it.
Also, "Apocalypse In 9/8" is probably the best moment in music history, and Nursery Cryme is one of the best albums in the history.
Yes!!!! I am so happy for you!!!! I love that animated Lamb video. There’s one for Supper’s Ready too. And I 100% agree about Apocalypse in 9/8: it is the pinnacle of Man’s achievements…
Yes indeed !!
I like Genesis' emphasis of songwriting over Yes' virtuosity and I'm a musician too, but I put more emphasis on composition than technical prowess.
As much as I love Genesis I am going with Yes. I don't like much the Genesis staff after Steve left. Keep going!!!!
Indeed!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Always Genesis for me. Believe it or not Yes is on the low end of the prog guys for me. Fantastic, wonderful musicians bless them. I do like them, but not to the extent most others do. Nothing wrong with them dont get me wrong but i love all the other classic prog bands more in general.
We all have our preferences. As long as it’s Prog, I’m happy!!!!
Another great show! Always great fun to talk about music you love, even if you are pitting one against the other here. For me, it’s a more clear win for Genesis, as they are my favorite. I love Yes as well, but Genesis’ top albums rank above all else for me. In your head to head album rankings, other than Yes Album over Nursery Cryme (and the first albums), I have Genesis winning every one of those. But great having you go through all aspects of these bands for comparison. Very cool, and I’m sure some hard choices had to be made.
It’s almost a toss up for me. They are both essential in my life!!!
@@TheProgCorner More of a necessity!😎
Great breakdown! Love both bands equally. They recorded SIX classic Prog albums each and are virtually tied in terms of individual technical talent
My Top Ten is: The Yes Album to Relayer and Nursery Cryme to A Trick Of The Tail. (Going For The One and Wind and Wuthering are still in my Top 30-40.)
@@TheProgCorner I generally agree not forgetting the excellent Genesis Trespass
Genesis is my favourite band of all times... But Yes is included in my Top 10!!!
Both are brilliant .For me GENESIS wins by a nose over YES
Yeah, I love them both!!!!
TOP 10 albums of the duo:
1) Yes - Close to the Edge
2) Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
3) Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
4) Genesis - Foxtrot
5) Yes - Relayer
6) Genesis - Nursery Cryme
7) Yes - Yes Album
8) Yes - Fragile
9) Genesis - Trespass
10) Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans
10 bis) Genesis - A Trick of the Tail
Interesting idea here. I ranked each bands albums separately, but not together. I would have more Yes albums in my top 10 of both bands combined.
I may do a combined ranking soon.
All 38 albums!!!
Scot...I loved this one on one comparison. I side with Genesis as #1 although I heard Yes first and obsessed with Yes until one day just like you I heard my first Genesis album and it too was GENESIS LIVE! It was one of the best days of my life and most memorable too. I guess that also was the day Yes took a back seat to Genesis. One thing that struck me was that my first taste of Genesis was that the album was LIVE, and those Bass Pedals OMG I was in heaven, I'd never heard a live album sound so good it was mind blowing. I think that was the tipping of the scales for me. I stuck with Yes releases for awhile but unlike a lot of Yes fans after Tales I became disenchanted with Yes. Anyway Scot another great video, Keep em' comng. ✌✌
Thank you!!!!!🙏
Great discussion. As with movies, it often comes down to your first. There's sentiment and nostalgia there.
Absolutely!!! It’s an emotional thing…
My 2 favorite too! Thanks for your most excellent zeal and wonderful prog shows.
Thank you, Charles!!! You’re the best.
Great stuff, I've also been debating back and forth for a while on this. I liked your approach and if I apply the same comparison, Yes came out on top for me by a hair.
It’s really close for me too. Always has been!!! The two best. Hands down.
Loved the way you presented this one. Genesis is the band I first listened to because of my brother. Yes followed much later about 3 years. I have full discographies of both bands. I love most of their albums. I always love a good melody so Genesis have the edge but ok Yes were huge, too.
It’s like deciding between two of your children. Impossible!!!
@@TheProgCorner Exactly
I agree with your ultimate theory as to why you chose Yes. I listened to Nursery Chryme first....therefore Genesis is my first choice. So we agree 👍 kinda?
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It's Genesis for me, and it's not even close..I love Yes, but always had a closer connection to Genesis.
I understand that. 👍👍🤘
The period with Peter Gabriel was the best for Genesis by far. The two albums as a 4-piece are good, but not as good as the Gabriel years. After Hackett left Genesis became more of a pop band with prog overtones. IMHO the Trevor Rabin years with Yes, though very different, are outstanding. So for me Yes had more longterm consistency in terms of quality than Genesis did. But I agree with you that up until about 1976 the two bands were neck and neck.
Genesis live is one of my favourites. I think I prefer early Genesis over yes but love yes too haha.. Awesome video and content buddy. I'm hooked. :)
Thank you!!!
Lots of great arguments there, very well thought out; the best thing is that I didn't have to do it, I'm happy to let you do the work and I'm grateful, thanks! (there's no doubt that they are the 2 best bands).
I knew you were with me on this!!!!
Both bands are epic. Love them both for different reasons.
My two favorites!!!!
Genesis, easily my favorite 70's prog band. Prefer Gabriel to Anderson as a vocalist, Wakeman is indeed a superior keyboardist to Banks but I definitely connect with Banks's progressions and melody writing more, prefer Collins to either Bruford or White as a drummer. The only two members I'd give to Yes are their guitarist and bassist. But musicians aside I just prefer Genesis's overall style and atmosphere a lot better, it's more impactful and emotionally fulfilling to me, always has been. Plus they're more consistent.
They definitely were more consistent. There was a career arc. Yes was/is CHAOS!!!
I really liked your video! Thanks! Really cool! Me too, they are my 2 favorite bands, but I have a preference for Genesis. As you say, it's really emotional, I met them a little before... It was my older brother's favorite band that introduced them to me... You're right, we're lucky to have these wonderful bands!... and we're lucky to have you The Prog Corner! Prog On!
Aw, shucks…You just made my day!!! ❤️
Pretty close overall but it's Yes for me.
You are quite wise despite your youth!!!
Yes is my favorite functional band since 1971.
Genesis is no longer functional but have been number 2 since 1973.
Indeed!!!
Barely functioning without Chris and Alan. R.I.P. my brothers. 🌹🌹🌹
@@jeffschielka7845 I am happily supporting Yes by buying tickets for the October 27th show.
October 27? Had I not already bought tickets to a show 2 weeks later (same venue), I wouldn’t have needed to do financial gymnastics to also see Yes next month. Ultimately, my friend (to whom I owe a favor) and I agreed to hold out for a possible Tales 50 tour
@@shyshift Just saw the show list today. Closest show to me is close to 500 miles.😎
Scott great show as usual. Your my go to for true prog info .I like a lot of Genesis but just my opinion for what ever that means , no one and I mean no one can top YES. music is subjective to personal taste . But to me no one compares to the best band ever and that's YES! PEACE AND GOD SAVE THE QUEEN BROTHER 👍👍🔥🔥
You are reading my mind. Genesis, for me, is the only band that ever came close to the greatness of Yes!!!
Another similarity between Yes and Genesis is that both bands utilized very thick and beefy bass guitar sounds, which is one of my favorite components of prog. They used the bass as instrument in its own right, not just as part of the rhythm section. Squire and Rutherford utilized very similar bass sounds.
I have not but will now seek them out!!!
Good comparison between the two greatest prog bands ever, lovely coincidences too!
Despite my final ranking is Genesis#1 and Yes#2... ;-)
No worries!!!! They are both amazing!
Very enjoyable video! Yes and Genesis are also my two favorites. But if I had to pick one to represent what prog was all about it would be Yes. If there was a picture in the dictionary to define the word Prog, it would be the classic Yes bubble logo from _Tales From Topographic Oceans!_ My other favorite prog groups are ELP, King Crimson and Pink Floyd, although, strictly speaking, Floyd is more acid rock.
Yeah, Floyd had their proggy moments but overall a hard band to categorize!!! Either way, I love them!!!
For me, Genesis over Yes as Genesis focused more on songwriting and emotional impact of the music while Yes focused more on virtuosity.
Exactly why I picked YES!!!!
@@TheProgCorner I’ve got to give it to Genesis in the song department.
@@TheProgCorner YES YES YES YES!!!!😎
Genesis weren't virtuoso except Phil Collins
Steve Hackett disagrees with that statement!!!!
early 80s i like both . have a lot of Genesis in multiple formats
Apples and oranges.
I remember hearing "Foxtrot" mid-seventies... I was hooked.
They're both great. Yea.
And, of course, King Crimson.
Damn, good times.
P.S. "Tormato" isn't bad.
And, kids, don't forget Phil's "Brand X."
Peace on earth.
That’s my Top 3!!!
Actually, Scot did a retrospective video on Tormato. A fun album that gets hated on too much. Not Close To The Edge or Relayer but still classic lineup fun!
An impossible question. I completely agree with everything you said. There was a luncheonette about a mile from my house and they had those old table side mini jukeboxes one day I played the song Roundabout. Well I spent all my change for the next few months on that song. I kept asking my parents if we could go to luncheonette, at some point they realized I only wanted to go there for Roundabout. They finally bought me the fragile album. Then Yessongs came out and I played that to death. Then I went to see them in concert with Donovan, I was tripping and so Yes gets the nod for personal reasons. But yeah that budget Genesis live album got me too back then.
The price and the album cover: I HAD to buy it. And my life instantly became waaaay better…
@@TheProgCorner that cover !! Must buy. Opening with Watcher absolutely floored me. Still does
I was instantly hooked!!! That Mellotron…
@@TheProgCorner that Mellotron !!! Indeed.
Excellent debate!! It’s settled… Rush is #1😏 I’m a drummer that needs great bass and a well rounded guitar! But, my second and third are; Genesis then Yes!!! All meet my rock bones needs💯✌🏼😎
You know I love me some RUSH!!!
Phil is the man behind the kit for me, when it comes to 70's prog.
He had subtleness, great dynamic range, groove, musicality and a great tone.
I always thought that Bill was best in King Crimson.
And I always found that Banks was the master of chord progressions. 🎹
Have you listened to Kaipa? Hans Lunden creates similar magic with his keyboard voicings. Hey, a major chord in the second inversion is often called the “Genesis chord” when played on keys. There’s even a “Watcher” preset on new Mellotrons. Tony’s influence will never be fully appreciated…
Subtle? Have you heard Bruford's work on "Trio"?
@@Glornt His Magnum Opus! 😂
@@TheProgCorner Just checked the Inget Nytt Under Solen album - I like that quite a bit!!
Great stuff!!!
These are my two favorite bands, they truly are the two big pillars of prog. Genesis has consistency, but Yes has the highest peaks.
Yep. 👍👍👍
Wow, wish my parents were as musically hip as yours, mine enjoyed Jim Nabors, The Lettermen, Lawrence Welk. I was the eldest sibling so I had a higher hill to climb than your brother. You always have such great stories, thanks for the video. I went from The Beatles to Yes and Genesis myself, the three bands make a huge chunk of my collection.
I was lucky. My dad was a college professor and jazz enthusiast!!!
I'm more into genesis but yes was in a league of their own back in the day. Great bands.
Yes indeed.
TOP 10 songs of the duo (not order, impossible):
- G - The Musical Box
- G - Supper's Ready
- G - The Cinema Show
- G - Firth of Fifth
- G - The Knife
- Y - Gates of Dellirium
- Y - Close to the Edge
- Y - And You and I
- Y - Heart of the Sunrise
- Y - Yours Is No Disgrace
Only if you are submitting "The Knife" from Genesis Live. Hackett's solo...
You were about as fair as you could be Scot. Very enjoyable and a great history lesson! YES wins on every category in my ever so YES loving opinion. We really are blessed to have lived through this era of the greatest music ever created. Those that came before us and those who came after have missed out even though they can still enjoy the music, something has to be said at being there when it all started.
To have been able to see both in the seventies is a true blessing in my life!!!
@@TheProgCorner I've seen YES several times in the '70s but never saw Genesis however I did see a Phil Collins concert in the 90s and that was pretty damn good.
My only regret is not having seen the PG Genesis. My first Genesis show was ATTWT. It was pretty awesome - even without PG and Hackett…
I like both bands, but Yes is my favorite.
Me too!!!
I have to elevate Yes above Genesis for two reasons:
The minor reason--Tales v. Lamb is a blowout.
The major reason--both had a great classic period with lots of amazing albums, but Yes had a second golden age (Keys to Ascension and especially The Ladder and Magnification.) That never happened for Genesis.
Yes went back to Prog. Genesis never did. Fading Lights is a nice song but it ain’t Supper’s Ready!!!
@@TheProgCorner Agree.😎
Only because I prefer Howe to Hackett, I'd take Yes. Love both, though.
The two best. For sure!!!
Scot! By far one of your best videos! 2 great bands so evenly matched. You know YES is my favorite band, that's why I've seen them SO MANY times! You had a few misspeaks in the vid, but no big deal, didn't change the outcome of your thoughts. You can go back and find them if you so choose. I LOVED this vid!! I can but will not add anything in this comment. If I start talking about YES I will write a 50 page comment and nobody wants that! Lol! I want to stop this comment so I can watch the vid again and again and again! Great job! 2K so soon! YES and GENESIS FOREVER❗😎
Absolutely!!! Thanks, Jeff. You’re the best!!!
@@TheProgCorner You're da man Scot!😎
Amen!🤩
@@TigerMtnKing Hey Jerry!😎
@@jeffschielka7845 Hey Jeff!🤩
Really Genesis or Yes... I'm conflicted. I for various reasons stopped following both hands Genesis after wind & wuthering & Yes after Going for the one. Both had some good stuff after but..so glad you mentioned south side of the sky one of my all time faves. Did like some stuff on Big Generator & loved the Drama album. You mentioned another favorite band of mine Uriah Heep. Don't know that you'd consider them prog but Gary Thain one of my bass player influences besides Dennis Dunaway from Alice Cooper band. Love your channel my friend. Also huge Jellyfish fan.
I adore Uriah Heep. All eras. Gary Thain. Member of the Twenty-Seven Club.
FGTR vs. Yes: Yes
Trespass vs. Time And a Word: Trespass
Nursery Cryme vs. The Yes Album: The Yes Album
Foxtrot vs. Fragile: Fragile
Selling England vs. Close To The Edge: Selling England
The Lamb vs. Topographic Oceans: The Lamb
A Trick of the Tail vs. Relayer: TIE!
Wind & Wuthering vs. Going For The One: Wind & Wuthering
ATTW3 vs. Tormato: ATTW3
Duke vs. Drama: Drama
'80s Genesis vs. '80s Yes: Genesis
'90s Genesis vs. '90s Yes: Yes
I grew up in Milwaukee Wisconsin. I'm now 63 years old. My first Yes concert was 1975, then the 1976, 1977, took some time off from the Air Force for a couple of weeks to see the revolving stage show in 79 in Milwaukee. These are also my favorite two bands, although I am a Rush fan to the max and saw them first in 1976 during the 2112 tour. I am a new subscriber. I do like the way that you are very honest about why you like things and why you do not. I wonder if we were at some of the same shows together, at least in the same arena as me and my friends back in the 70s would go to the Milwaukee shows and the Chicago shows, even though we were underage at the time. It was harder to get beer in Chicago because the law was 21 back then and Wisconsin was 18. Somebody at some arena was going to sell us some brewski. We just had to find the right guy.
My first Yes show was 1976 at the old Milwaukee Arena!!! So we were definitely together for that. The Crab Nebula!!!! I hung out all morning and afternoon in front (and in back) of the building hoping against hope to meet my heroes!!!! And it worked. I met Jon and Patrick that day. One happy 13 year old!!! And yeah, Rush rules. A friend in school (8th grade?) loaned 2112 to me and I never looked back!!! I moved to Florida in 1977 and lived on a sailboat for four years…sailing the Caribbean when everyone else my age was in school. Life can be so hard!!! 👍👍❤️❤️
@@TheProgCorner How interesting. Yes, I was at the 1976 crab nebula show at the Milwaukee arena. Between bands, the lights were on and I was waiting for Yes to start, the 16-year-old behind me, which was my age too, threw up all over my back and my really nice shirt. Thousands of people saw. I went down to the men's room to wash out my shirt and get back for the start of the show, when I ran into a security person that I knew. I told him my story and he gave me a free Yes T- shirt, and he took me behind the stage to see the crab nebula which was behind a curtain as you remember before the show. What a show. What a light show. I needed one of those crab nebulas in my basement party room or so the weed told me. Happy that you met Jon and the fantastic Patrick Moraz. I ended up meeting Jon years later before a show. Had a nice conversation and got a good picture out of it. Well, I will be reading and listening to more of your stuff. Take care. Jeffrey.
Give ‘em hell, Al!!!! (Yeah, I grew up a Marquette fan…) Great memories in that building…Lou Alcindor. Oscar Robertson, Al McGuire and Yes!!!!
I love both bands so I cannot choose only one. Yes until Going for the one has a solid career while Genesis after Peter's departure started to lose their prog sound little by little. But as I said it before they are huge bands.
Both are genius.
Genesis. (Gabriel only)
I actually do NOT think much of Lamb Lies Down
Trespass is their most underrated Album.
I agree with that. Overall, Trespass gets forgotten about too often.
...very, VERY tight tug-of-war between those 2 for me too, Scot... but I slightly (if I must) lean to Genesis overall... came across them first, so that did create some home ground, but I also love their medieval, baroque touch so much... and Anthony Phillips' solo works blew me away - I absolutely adore that guy!! (he has also big 'misses', but when he hits, he hits hard!)... however: I couldn't live without YESSONGS and TALES either - I'm just polygamous, I guess 😎
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Two titans of prog they cannot be compared,you have with out a doubt the greatest and most complete album ever made Close to the edge and then you have Peter Gabriel’s Magnus Opus the lamb lies down.With fragile and Selling England by the Pound in the mix,some the greatest prog ever. Two different styles two incredible collections of stellar musical talent,nothing will ever come close to these magnificent bands. The cream of prog,long live Jon Anderson and Peter Gabriel!!!!!
My two favorite singers ever!!!!
I love your content, comprehensive approach, enthusiasm and attitude of gratitude. Genesis, Yes (and Jethro Tull) are my 3 favorite all-time bands. If I HAD to choose, Genesis would get the nod. However, and I say this gently and with much love, I think you would be more effective if you employed a less singsong, valley girl verbal inflection. Not every sentence or phrase has to end on an ascending, emphasized prolonged note and pitch! In every other connection, you are great! Peace, out!
I know my vocal syntax can be a little, um, challenging!!! But I try to tone it down. I really do!!! Thank you for watching and I will definitely keep your thoughts in mind going forward, No promises though...
Harsh criticism. Scott's delivery is unique. Don't change it ! As for the Bill Bruford woolly hat, please take it off once in a while so we can see what you really look like. Or are you as bald as Collins, just wearing a wig ? Have you mentioned / reviewed the 1976-76 film of Genesis playing live that was shown in British cinemas in tandem with a Rick Wakeman film ? Shows Collins-Bruford duet drumming. Superlative.
Yes Genesis Pink Floyd Gentle Giant Rush my favs ❤
Yes!!!!
Also my two favorite bands of all time!!
Great fun listening to you go through this. My favorite band of the two is Genesis, but that is limited to the period ending in 80’ with the Duke Album.
Yes, is the better band technically speaking. And because of the point you made about the long songs and continuing on in the prog tradition.
Yes’ The Ladder and their recently released Mirrors to the sky are way better than the last three Genesis albums.
Thank you for sharing your assessment. Keep it going 👍
I love them both. But if you put a gun to my head I’d pick YES but that said: there are only two bands I truly could not live without - Yes and Genesis!!!!
Excellent comparison! I am an outlier again in many ways. For Genesis, Trespass through W&W are top notch, can't beat, for me. For Yes, it is spotty. On their early disc's there are certain song's I love and others I could do without. Then comes Close to the Edge, which is magnificent, and Fragile which is really good. Next comes the lull. Tales and Relayer are not to my taste. Tales is melody-less and Relayer has that fusion feel that I don't like. My Yes favorites are the hated Tormato, Drama, and The Ladder. The three most recent disc's simply suck. For me, Genesis has the most consistent string of greatness. Trespass to W&W is shear magnificence! After that Genesis becomes spotty. Especially Duke and after there are songs here and there I like, but the rest I loathe! I agree with the band member comparisons mostly. The only difference would be Hackett over Howe, but it is close. Hackett is my all-time favorite guitarist. Both of these bands are in my pantheon of greats, and deservedly so! You ought to do more of these comparisons. It makes for great conversations.
I misspoke. I actually have Hackett over Howe!!!
Yes 1971-1977
Genesis 1971-1977
Yes 6 epics
Genesis 3 epics but lacking 100% punch.
The Lamb mostly a failed attempt to write catchy short tracks.
The Winner is Yes
Genesis were a lot more popular (well as a pop band anyway) but my preference is for Yes. Both are in my top five though.
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Hey Scot! Something tells me I'm going to like this episode!!!😎
Only a brief reminder that I had Pete over Jon!!! Ha!!! 👍👍👍But the rest you should enjoy - even if I made a bunch of errors. Too much Mountain Dew today!!!
@@TheProgCorner I was almost over your bad and wrong choice. Now I'm pissed again! I mentioned your typos in my other comment. No biggie! Great vid!😎
I get ahead of my skis sometimes…
@@TheProgCorner Emotions take over.😎
A found 8 track in the woods started my Yes album journey.
No way!!!
My top three bands are THE DOORS,QUEEN ,ESPECIALLY THE FIRST THREE ALBUMS AND YES YES YES ..Today I just bought the album YESTERDAYS WITH JON RICK CHRIS BILL AND STEVE all signing the album.I do love Genesis but for me give me YES YES YES.
Very nice Top Theee!!!
Tough call! Their prog albums are pretty damn classics and draw, but because of Genesis's "pop era" is altogether better than Yes's', I'd say Genesis is the winner! Your mileage may vary.
Except for The More We Live (Let Go) and Don't Go, all the Yes pop songs are very good or great songs. Love Shine is the 2nd best pop song of the 1990s.
Except for. Many Too Many, Anything She Does and In Too Deep, the Genesis pop songs are poor or awful. Sorry. Yes are the Kings of pop in the 1980s and 1990s.
Yes!!!
MY GOD... this is my daily internal struggle 😂
I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!!!!!! Peace , Love and Prog!!!!!!!
Prog on!!!! 👍👍👍
Scot, both for me, can't choose one. Depending on my mood I can swing from one to another. So, give me both discographies! Lol. It was fun to watch!
Exactly. I need them both!!!
Close to the edge(1.), topographic oceans(2.-5.), gates of delirium(6.), awaken(7.) fly from here(8.) and endless dream(9.). What are the other 2 he is referring to ?
Mind Drive and That That Is (both from the Keystudio/Keys To Ascension.)
@@TheProgCorner thanks. Havent listened to those albums so didnt know.
@@raindancer3144 Both of those tracks are AMAZING!!!
YES my teenage brain needed the solos and it still does.
Absolutely!!!
Yes or Genesis?
Both
but ya I like Yes more now at the moment
sounds like a Stalemate for you.
Genesis and Yes practically defined 'prog' but they are as different as night and day. I think of Yes as being the best prog BAND , but most of the best SONGS came from Genesis. As for the 'Battle of the Steves, I have to quote the late John Banner. "I hear NOTH-ING! Noth-ing!"
I feel like Sgt. Schultz most days.
Return of the Giant Hogweed.
Those Victorian explorers in the Russian fields.
Good stuff, though for me, the big difference is that the members of YES were all unique stylists on their instruments. They displayed their virtuosity within the song, as opposed to a lot of modern day prog bands where the song is just a vehicle show off their chops. The guys in Genesis were terrific players, but NOBODY sounds like Howe, and NOBODY sounds like Bruford, and NOBODY sounds like Squire and NOBODY sounds like Anderson and NOBODY sounds like Wakeman. At least not at the time. But their influence on musicians is monumentally widespread. I can't quite claim the same for the guys in Genesis.
Good comment!!!!
Sometimes I've thought that Yes were a band of brilliant musicians playing very good compositions, and Genesis were a band of very good musicians playing brilliant compositions. (At least during their heyday.) YMMV
Well said!!!
My brother gave me some CDs of both these bands . I have to give them both a listen.
Do it!!! You won’t be sorry.
💗From London, but Genesis for having the best b side Twilight Alehouse.
That’s appropriate.
Love both YES and Genesis but I find Gentle Giant and King Crimsons music more timeless
I’ve said this to you before Scott prefer the Gab Genesis to the Collins stuff
All four are in my Top Five so we are definitely splitting hairs!!! Just pure greatness all the way around!!! 👍👍
And I prefer the Gabriel era too but A Trick of the Tail through Duke is pretty sweet!!!
For me, I have my days where I like Yes more, and have my days where I like Genesis more. I would say Genesis had a stronger discography, but both bands had their low points, especially during the 90's. Although I do think Yes's 90's albums are better than Genesis's 90's albums. Cool video man.
Fair enough!!!
I think you meant to say A trick of the tail vs relayer since you said GFTO twice in a row.
I don’t know what I was saying. I think I was confused? I should redo the episode!!!
Awesome video!
You’re awesome.
Nah, Kansas and Supertramp for me...but I like Genesis more than Yes, prefer Peter Gabriel/Phil Collins singing to Jon Anderson
Those are two MIGHTY Prog bands. 👍❤️
Wow,Tormato is my fav Yes album and And Then There Were Three my least Fav from Trespass to Duke, just shows how different we hear things. Much as I love Genesis it would be Yes for me, and i'm a weird one i do drum and i like Alan Whites style more than Bruford's it more punchy rock than feather touch jazz, as far as putting White against Collins no way i could call that.
Especially when dealing with the two best bands of all time!!!
@@TheProgCorner Yes and Nine Inch Nails are my joint fav bands and Genesis would easily sit in my top ten. The Lamb is my fav studio album of all time, i can see why anyone would struggle picking one of these two outfits over the other.
@@kevinbutler3665 I love Trent Rezner!!!
A decisão deste vídeo era previsível! Mas tenho que discurdar. Para mim Genesis, banda sem igual, muito superior aos yes sem dúvida nenhuma.
Great video but IMHO I think TIME or YEAR OF RELEASE could' be a more fair parameter or reference.
With all respect.
1969 - YES vs From Genesis To Revelation
1970 - Time and a World vs Trespass
1971 - The Yes Album OR Fragile vs Nursery Crime
1972 - Close To The Edge vs Foxtrot
1973 - Tales From Topographic Oceans vs Selling England By The Pound
1974 - Relayer vs The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
1977 - Going For The One vs Wind and Wuthering (released in 12/1976)
1978 - Tormato vs ... And Then There Were Three
1980 - Drama vs Duke
1983 - 90125 vs Genesis
1987 - Big Generator vs Invisible Touch (released 06/1986)
1991 - Union vs We Can t Danceoom
1997 - Open Your Eyes vs Calling All Stations
You comparation
KeyStudio (2001) with We Can t Dance (1991) !!
Big Generator (1987) with Genesis (1983)
90125 (1983) vs Abacab (1981)
Going For The One (1977) was compared with two albuns but
Relayer (1974) was not compared.
Rick Wakeman maybe can be the greatest rock keyboardist of all times. A virtuose, precise, faster but I think Tony Banks was the musical base of Genesis Music and more estability, criativity and very far better composer. Your individual compositions for Genesis can t be matched by RW.
He fitted better in a group.
Two Giants bands of the Progressive Rock.
I should reshoot that episode. I messed up so badly it’s ridiculous…
@@TheProgCornerTake easy. Your channel is really amazing.
Thank you!!!!
Excellent summation Scott, my two favourites as well & like you I lean a little more to Yes. Mainly because Yes have been the more adventurous & truer to their progressive roots throughout their career. And they always played a lot of their classic 70's material at every gig in every era. The opposite was the case with Genesis, from the start of the 80's the classic 70's material was limited to the in the cage medley & 1 or 2 others if you were lucky. That always frustrated me. I guess I love Yes 70% for their 70's material & 30% for what came after. With Genesis it's 90/10. A few more interesting differences, Yes had 6 keyboardists, Genesis had 1 who was also the main writer. Genesis consolidated to a 3 piece whereas Yes were always a 5 piece & sometimes a 6 piece. Could rattle on for hours but that'll do, cheers Bro!
And Yes were a four piece on Magnification.
Oh yeah forgot about that one, the orchestra replacing the keyboards & Tom Brislin coming in for the tour. What a fantastic project, Magnification, cheers.
Love that album!!!! Tom was so good with Yes. Can’t wait to see him in Kansas.
@@TheProgCorner So do I, I reckon their best album post Drama, great material, the orchestral arrangements are magnificent, and the integration was absolutely seamless. Tom was awesome on the Symphonic Yes DVD, absolutely stunning on The Gates of Delirium, such an underrated talent. So glad he got the gig with Kansas, and not only did they get an exceptional keyboardist with a great voice but also a fine writer. His writing efforts with Zac Rizvi on The Absence of Presence are very impressive, I'm sure you'll enjoy seeing them live. Alas as I'm from down under it's unlikely they'll tour here, hopefully they'll bring out another live DVD. Cheers Bro
Yes is my band but it’s time I give Genesis some attention.
Absolutely!!!!
Fermo restando che ADORO entrambe le BANDS ma se proprio devo fare il giochetto scelgo di poco i GENESIS soprattutto ERA PETER GABRIEL!!!!! Comunque che bands FANTASTICHE, GENESIS e YES!!!!!!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I lean towards the the King Crimson/ELP end of prog, while I love Yes and Genesis, neither would be anywhere without KC. Keith Emerson, in my view beats Banks and Wakeman cold. Can you imagine Firth of Fifth's piano intro not being played live? Banks couldn't do it.
They had to drop the intro after Banks flubbed it one too many times...
@@TheProgCorner Yep - That's why Keith Emerson rules - he played Tarkus note perfect for decades.
The piano solo would have sounded ludicrous played on an RMI.
@@martinspencer1618 Why so? You can here Tony Banks start to play the intro in his RMI on RUclips if you search.
The BEST thing that I ever did in my later teen years was to buy that used casset "Classic YES".. I was hooked ever since! I was confused at the time as 90125 & Big Generator existed though.. Then I bought ABWH and then figured out that this was a Very complicated band! Genesis I Like, up to Wind and withiring.. They got too commercial for me though. Their first Live album is Essential as well as alot of the early albums! I Never got into the Lamb weirdly enough though.. Trick of the Tail is Genious in its weirdness! I Love it!
On another note, One of the greatest moments of my life, I got to see YES Live on the UNION tour front row in the Round stage! All 12 members playing the same show was Awesome!! B.Bruford and A. White both sharing the same stage with 2 seperate drum kits! It was Amazing, and it will never happen again.. Then I saw the TALK tour which was really Boring as hell, totally sucked.. Alan Parsons opened up for them and blew them off of the stage. The amplitheater was not even half full, as opposed to Union, which was sold out!
But..
Give me YES anytime. Both bands are Awesomme though in the world of PROG!!
I saw that tour and it was AMAZING!!! The album? Not so much. But the band was ON FIRE!!! You are right: it will never happen again and without Chris and Alan, what would be the point?
When its too close to call on an album comparision, I resort to my least favorite track on each album. The one I like least is the weakest link, bringing down the whole album enough to lose the competition. Example: The Ancient vs Slippermen. No brainer there. Both albums the groups top masterpieces each with a weak link. Which one is weaker?
Interesting approach!!! But I still prefer Tales!!!
@@TheProgCorner So do I. For me, The Lamb is 4th in all music history. Tales will always be the finest music ever written or recorded.
I probably have them at #1 and #2!!!
For me, it's YES over Genesis. YES had 2 things Genesis didn't have, Jon Anderson and Chris Squire!
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I pick Yes over Genesis by a hair.
Me too!!! It’s really close!!!
Hello Scott! I Adore your shows!
I Absolutlly LOVE YES!
Genesis = .. I can not get into them.. I Like their main Gabriel Main old albums, (up to the LIVE Album), as they are ok. I "TRIED" listening to "Selling England" tonight.. The hype about this album is Huge, and I could not stand this album! I really do not know what the hype about this album is?? I think that "Trick of the Tail" is far better, a little bit?? I will try "Wind" tommorow.. I Absoltely HATE the newer stuff! Invidual Touch is the only last good thing that they put out, IMHO..I cant dance and Jesus SUCKS!! And Yes I have hear both albums
You might like Wind & Wuthering. It’s a little different. And I am kinda with you about Selling England. Totally overhyped!!!!
I agree with your final decision, but for me it is an easy call, as I have both KC and ELP above Genesis
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@@TheProgCorner Yes wins 8 out of 10 on the album matchups, losing only Fragile (you know my problems with that, and it still barely loses to Foxtrot), and of course Tormato.
And my #2 band is ELP. They did Bartok, Mussorgsky, Tchaikovsky, Copland, Ginastera, etc., which appeals to my classical side (and of course, with The Nice, Emerson did some Sibelius, my co-#1 composer along with Haydn), but I think Yes still edges them out based on longevity and variety -- and the Rabin era helps them with this factor. KC would be my #3, although I might say that they're actually #3, 4 and 5 (Red era, Discipline era and original lineup), and then maybe Genesis or Floyd. Or possibly Porcupine Tree; there is so much good stuff there, too, even before Gavin joined. And The Pineapple Thief as well, also including its pre-Gavin albums. Of course, Gavin elevated both bands, but they were already very good.
I love both Porcupine Tree and Pineapple Thief!!! Solid discographies both.
I love early 70s yes so much
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I don't really know whom I would pick. But what I would like to point out is that, even if Yes didn't record a single album in the 80's, I would have preferred them to Genesis as an 80's band. Genesis for me is a 70s band, everything they puked on the public after that is Muzak to my ears.
Three man Genesis retained my attention right up until the moment they released Abacab.
And then there were three and Duke is OK. After that I rather listen to King Crimson or Yes 80's music.
Me too!!!
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Sorry Phil Collins is a more versatile drummer than bruford, just my opinion😊
He’s probably more versatile than any drummer not named Simon Phillips…
@@TheProgCorner Simon is awesome. 🥁😎
HAHAHAH, Mission Impossible. Period.
Two great bands but over their respective careers, Genesis were more progressive than Yes. While Yes generally remained faithful to the style they employed in their youth, Genesis moved with the times and with their ever progressing maturity.
This is not to say that I dislike yes. On the contrary I think their music is magnificent. But Genesis is my favourite.
From the first Genesis album right through to the last, each one is different from its predecessor showing the progression that Genesis employed.
I just love them both!!!