The amazing thing about this guy is how versatile he is transitioning between various aircraft types and models with different avionics set-ups - his flying skills seem flawless and always well composed.
I loved my Saratoga, you sold it for me last April. Mine was turbocharged and got 170 knots at the typical altitudes I flew. The Lance had a T-tail which was very unpopular. Piper lowered the tail and renamed it the Saratoga.
And changed the wing among other modifications. I put in quite a few hours in a fixed gear version and I just loved that plane. If you were able to close the doors it would fly.
Best single-engine ever...comfort, true six-place with fuel and baggage. Except I left mine in a school yard in Ft Myers after an engine failure due to the "dual mag"...a single-drive mag with one screw that holds the cam to open and close the points.
Just a tip I noticed, the plane has an STEC 55X. The X means it has GPSS, push the nav button twice and the autopilot will go into GPSS mode with "GPSS" displayed on the 55X
Hey Rich! Enjoy your content, your a wealth of knowledge and clearly have the experience/time in a variety of aircraft to boot. Any advice for low time(250) pilots with CFII trying to build time. Instructing is not for everyone, and I definitely wouldn’t mind pursuing other time building options. Look forward to hearing back! Blue skies bud 🛫
Thanks for the message and watching the videos. Looking back on my flying, I put a lot of value on the time I have invested in being a flight instructor. I never thought I would be flight instructing and enjoying it this long! I also realize how much I learned and how valuable the experience was I got flight instructing. You are right that it’s not for everyone. I know some excellent pilots who never did any flight instructing. My advice - give instructing some time and pursue other ways to build time too.
This is the airplane that I had my first ever flying job in, have lots of hours in 2GB! And that monitor you weren't sure about is actually a factory engine monitor if I remember correctly, i really enjoyed flying it, if I were in a position to buy it I totally would! I'm also in long Beach, let's fly together! Haha Great video man.
A friend had a turbo one of these. 280hp I think? Not normalized either, you had to watch the boost on take off. He flew it all over Australia, mostly doing Angel flights towards the end of his time with it. Cruised easily at 160 knots with a lot of stuff in it. Felt very solid and strong. I wondered in they're the best overall do-everything aircraft for the money?
I know this is an older video but that autopilot almost certainly has altitude capture. You must hit ALT and VS at the same time to engage the VS and then it will capture your alt.
I fly a 1994 Saratoga II HP. We fully upgraded the avionics to Garmin G3X and a G5, G500 AP, and 650s. The Saratoga is superior to the Lance with the wing that was designed for it. Very good wing! Great payload, too. One of the best 6 seaters for a 300nm mission. Longer than that and you'll want to add a fuel/potty stop.
Love Piper products - great machines. My only nit with the Saratoga's (flew an HP II) is I'm 6'3" with a 34" inseam - definitely had issues with the yoke banging into my knees. Also, the HP wouldn't do well flying over the Continental Divide - IIRC, max altitude is like 15,000. One would need the II TC version for the extra power to fly the MEA's in/around the Rockies.
Hi Rich, I noticed the brief "chopping" sound at around 14 seconds into the video during takeoff. Have you noticed this frequently in your other PA32s? I have a '77 Lance and it does this occasionally. Its a bit disconcerting. I've never been able to get it to happen with a mechanic, and wondering if you had any ideas? -Thomas, AME. Ps This is a great channel!
Thank you - hard for me to tell. I have been traveling so only able to listen on my phone but almost sounds like intercom or radio feedback. I’ll listen closer when I can get to a computer, but not something I would say is common. Thanks for watching!
@FlyingwithRich Definitely prop noise, very brief lasting maybe a second or 2, mine does it too. Just weird, but also relieved to know other PA32Rs do it hah! If you find yourself in NC and need a First Class, you have my name! 🤜🏼🤛🏿
I'm sorry I just checked with Rich (I manage his accounts) and he has informed me that the plane has actually sold. My apologies. If anything changes we will let you know!
Not really in my experience-I fly a Saratoga TC. Five kids would work though. It also has a forward CG and with two large people up front (no other pax) plane can easily get out of the CG envelope requiring t/o with tanks 2/3 full. Still I love the one I fly-also with the TC version I can get 175 TAS at 10,000 ft.
I don't know that I'm particularly interested in owning a plane if I had the monetary capability I might but this is one of my favorites that I've ever studied. It is the type that John Kennedy Jr was murdered in and I took the time to actually read the information on the condition of the plane when they recovered it and it is clear, if you read somewhere around age 720 to 735 or so somewhere in that vicinity I believe that the fuel was completely shut off which is an absolute manual Act and the fact that the right front seat was never recovered from the aircraft. The fact that he and his passengers waited for 45 minutes at the airport for somebody to arrive, and he was never known to fly that airplane without a certified flight instructor. Indicates to me that Batman was murdered. Plus there is information that he had already checked into landing and was within 5 minutes of Landing when suddenly everything went South. Having run an investigations for myself for several years back in the '80s, something doesn't add up really quickly. And after looking at the fuel switch device in that you cannot accidentally shut the fuel off. That said this looks like a very safe and very capable aircraft and more than the load capability because if you're going to have a plane and you even Envision ever needing load carrying capability this looks like a good cross between a decent plane, and the capability of being able to move people or stuff.
Great plane but with some of these old American plains it just seems like there was no thought put into the panel. It looks like they put great avionics into a wall. Why isn’t there any attention to detail like there is in Cirrrus, jets, or cars for that matter. The panel should be angled since your eyes are up higher. It just needs more attention to detail
Man, if you want to advertise the plane, show more panel. Not your face, not the view outside. We want to see the engine parameters, pressures, temperatures. Mode reversions on the autopilot! Do it better next time please!
I disagree. There was plenty of panel showing all the features and numbers I wanted to see. I dislike videos that show instruments the entire flight. This was a nice balance. Besides, I appreciate getting to know the guy who is selling the plane as well ;).
@@petsmith7772Did you see the oil press rise just after startup, showing the overall condition of the engine? Lean test? Gami spread? How fast the gear retracts/extends? And many many more you want to check on the plane if considering a purchase.
Videos aren’t intended to be a complete review of the airplane and all the systems - that would be difficult to do. If you are interested in purchasing the airplane, we would certainly do a full review of the systems and avionics but likely done by a mechanic in a pre-purchase inspection. Thanks again for your feedback.
Compliments to whomever kept this aircraft in such top shape.
Agree. It’s been well cared for it’s whole life.
piper saratoga one of the most beautiful planes!!!🙌🏼✈️
Agreed! Thanks for watching!
I've always thought the same thing except I think it is the most beautiful...there's nothing else like it...art and beauty together.
Long nose, Comanche
The amazing thing about this guy is how versatile he is transitioning between various aircraft types and models with different avionics set-ups - his flying skills seem flawless and always well composed.
Thank you!
Another nice review from Rich. Very calm and proficeint pilot also.
What a beautiful Airplane!
I loved my Saratoga, you sold it for me last April. Mine was turbocharged and got 170 knots at the typical altitudes I flew. The Lance had a T-tail which was very unpopular. Piper lowered the tail and renamed it the Saratoga.
Thanks Rob - how long did you have your Turbo Saratoga?
@@FlyingwithRich I had it for a little over 19 years. I flew it all over the Country and enjoyed every minute of it!
And changed the wing among other modifications. I put in quite a few hours in a fixed gear version and I just loved that plane. If you were able to close the doors it would fly.
I flew the 6X and 6XT gyre at airplanes. Thanks for watching!
Not all Lance’s had t tails
I Really Enjoy Rich's No Nonsense Approach To His Videos,,, This Man's Got a Lot of Talent and Flying Ability,,,, Flys a Lot of Different Equipment,,,
Thanks for watching!
Roomy cabin and great range on the plus side
Roomy cabin for sure - really nice airplane.
Hey Rich I just want to say I love your videos I’ve loved Aviation ever since I can remember.
Thanks - appreciate the message and I’ve been into airplanes my whole life too!
Great job Rich as always.....thanks
Thank you!
Thanks for the video!
Thank you for watching!
Best single-engine ever...comfort, true six-place with fuel and baggage. Except I left mine in a school yard in Ft Myers after an engine failure due to the "dual mag"...a single-drive mag with one screw that holds the cam to open and close the points.
Glad that you made it successfully! Sounds like quite an event!
Just a tip I noticed, the plane has an STEC 55X. The X means it has GPSS, push the nav button twice and the autopilot will go into GPSS mode with "GPSS" displayed on the 55X
Thanks - been a while since I flew the 55X. This also has a remote GPS/HDG remote selector. I thought it was toggling GPSS as well.
Hey Rich! Enjoy your content, your a wealth of knowledge and clearly have the experience/time in a variety of aircraft to boot. Any advice for low time(250) pilots with CFII trying to build time. Instructing is not for everyone, and I definitely wouldn’t mind pursuing other time building options. Look forward to hearing back! Blue skies bud 🛫
Thanks for the message and watching the videos. Looking back on my flying, I put a lot of value on the time I have invested in being a flight instructor. I never thought I would be flight instructing and enjoying it this long! I also realize how much I learned and how valuable the experience was I got flight instructing. You are right that it’s not for everyone. I know some excellent pilots who never did any flight instructing. My advice - give instructing some time and pursue other ways to build time too.
This is the airplane that I had my first ever flying job in, have lots of hours in 2GB!
And that monitor you weren't sure about is actually a factory engine monitor if I remember correctly, i really enjoyed flying it, if I were in a position to buy it I totally would! I'm also in long Beach, let's fly together! Haha
Great video man.
Thanks for the message - SNA - SMO - SNA a few times?
@@FlyingwithRich the owner was extremely generous and let me fly it to RAL where my student base was. So SNA - SMO- RAL -SMO - SNA everyday.
Really nice.
Nice throttle feathering on flare
Fly high.
A friend had a turbo one of these. 280hp I think? Not normalized either, you had to watch the boost on take off. He flew it all over Australia, mostly doing Angel flights towards the end of his time with it. Cruised easily at 160 knots with a lot of stuff in it. Felt very solid and strong. I wondered in they're the best overall do-everything aircraft for the money?
I know this is an older video but that autopilot almost certainly has altitude capture. You must hit ALT and VS at the same time to engage the VS and then it will capture your alt.
I fly a 1994 Saratoga II HP. We fully upgraded the avionics to Garmin G3X and a G5, G500 AP, and 650s. The Saratoga is superior to the Lance with the wing that was designed for it. Very good wing! Great payload, too. One of the best 6 seaters for a 300nm mission. Longer than that and you'll want to add a fuel/potty stop.
I have a 1995 IIHP. I LOVE IT!!!
great video well done flying with cool rich im geting a piper saratoga in fsx real soon
Thank you!
Love Piper products - great machines. My only nit with the Saratoga's (flew an HP II) is I'm 6'3" with a 34" inseam - definitely had issues with the yoke banging into my knees. Also, the HP wouldn't do well flying over the Continental Divide - IIRC, max altitude is like 15,000. One would need the II TC version for the extra power to fly the MEA's in/around the Rockies.
Hi Rich, I noticed the brief "chopping" sound at around 14 seconds into the video during takeoff. Have you noticed this frequently in your other PA32s? I have a '77 Lance and it does this occasionally. Its a bit disconcerting. I've never been able to get it to happen with a mechanic, and wondering if you had any ideas? -Thomas, AME.
Ps This is a great channel!
Thank you - hard for me to tell. I have been traveling so only able to listen on my phone but almost sounds like intercom or radio feedback. I’ll listen closer when I can get to a computer, but not something I would say is common. Thanks for watching!
@FlyingwithRich Definitely prop noise, very brief lasting maybe a second or 2, mine does it too. Just weird, but also relieved to know other PA32Rs do it hah! If you find yourself in NC and need a First Class, you have my name! 🤜🏼🤛🏿
I Can't find an stc for the Lycoming 580 for this airframe.
I am in the market, I doubt you still have it, but this is what I’m looking for.
It's still available! I'm on a plane to New York now but you can call me in a few hours if you like.
@@FlyingwithRich shoot me a text 817-648-8736, we can chat when you get back. I’m in no hurry, thank you.
I'm sorry I just checked with Rich (I manage his accounts) and he has informed me that the plane has actually sold. My apologies. If anything changes we will let you know!
What is the asking price?
Please check out the link found in the video description that sends you right over to the listing on controller. Thank you!
How many hour overhaul engine or replacement??
2000 hours. Thanks for watching!
between platsburg end fort lauderdale how many houre ????
What do you have experience with Rich??
👍👍👍👍👍
Any chance that plane is still for sale if it is hook me up
Sold!
Oof yeah I thought so
Is it a true 6 seater?
Yes but more limited range with seats filled - 2 hrs plus reserve with seats filled.
Not really in my experience-I fly a Saratoga TC. Five kids would work though. It also has a forward CG and with two large people up front (no other pax) plane can easily get out of the CG envelope requiring t/o with tanks 2/3 full. Still I love the one I fly-also with the TC version I can get 175 TAS at 10,000 ft.
I want.... really badly....
I don't know that I'm particularly interested in owning a plane if I had the monetary capability I might but this is one of my favorites that I've ever studied. It is the type that John Kennedy Jr was murdered in and I took the time to actually read the information on the condition of the plane when they recovered it and it is clear, if you read somewhere around age 720 to 735 or so somewhere in that vicinity I believe that the fuel was completely shut off which is an absolute manual Act and the fact that the right front seat was never recovered from the aircraft. The fact that he and his passengers waited for 45 minutes at the airport for somebody to arrive, and he was never known to fly that airplane without a certified flight instructor. Indicates to me that Batman was murdered. Plus there is information that he had already checked into landing and was within 5 minutes of Landing when suddenly everything went South. Having run an investigations for myself for several years back in the '80s, something doesn't add up really quickly. And after looking at the fuel switch device in that you cannot accidentally shut the fuel off.
That said this looks like a very safe and very capable aircraft and more than the load capability because if you're going to have a plane and you even Envision ever needing load carrying capability this looks like a good cross between a decent plane, and the capability of being able to move people or stuff.
Is it true that the Saratoga has very bad glide capability.
Hi me again, just admiring something I can't afford. Can you ask the owner to wait 5 years? 🤣
2000 TT, 1100on engine , reliable engine only made it to 900 first time around.
Nice try but not even close to being accurate.
Did he say 15 or 50 GPH?
@@lutherheggs 15
@@FlyingwithRich Thought so. Thanks!
Great plane but with some of these old American plains it just seems like there was no thought put into the panel. It looks like they put great avionics into a wall. Why isn’t there any attention to detail like there is in Cirrrus, jets, or cars for that matter. The panel should be angled since your eyes are up higher. It just needs more attention to detail
The turbo lance with t-tail was not a very likable aircraft.
Lost me seeing it being flown LOP… :-(
Man, if you want to advertise the plane, show more panel. Not your face, not the view outside.
We want to see the engine parameters, pressures, temperatures. Mode reversions on the autopilot!
Do it better next time please!
Thanks for the feedback, and thank you for watching!
I disagree. There was plenty of panel showing all the features and numbers I wanted to see. I dislike videos that show instruments the entire flight. This was a nice balance. Besides, I appreciate getting to know the guy who is selling the plane as well ;).
@@petsmith7772 Agree! Great video!
@@petsmith7772Did you see the oil press rise just after startup, showing the overall condition of the engine? Lean test? Gami spread? How fast the gear retracts/extends? And many many more you want to check on the plane if considering a purchase.
Videos aren’t intended to be a complete review of the airplane and all the systems - that would be difficult to do. If you are interested in purchasing the airplane, we would certainly do a full review of the systems and avionics but likely done by a mechanic in a pre-purchase inspection. Thanks again for your feedback.