Yes, this was legit SONY software which was used in Japan starting around 2002 which replaced the HDD OSD software: RUclips video ID for my HDD OSD vvideo: qxzHzLIdiWg The point is that PSBBN was SONY first attempt at making something like the PS Store and PSN we have today on PS3/ PSP and PS Vita/PS4.
@@armorwolf7934 i hate abit japan cus is a country that *always* have the best stuff. (in terms of game consoles and that kind of stuff). and kinda sad that it never bring it in usa and european markets.
It's a sort of browser system SONY made in 2001 for the Japanese PS2 market. When they released it they renamed the HDD kit as "BB UNIT" and that browser replaces the original PS2 browser with one which is internet capable. They had also a sort of store where you could download demos of games and install on the HDD. It never made out outside of Japan.
If Sony didn't do that bs and sell it worldwide (around the world in simple words).It will have been a huge success . Too bad it has been only in Japan. Same thing happened to the Satelaview kit for the SNES (Which Has been sold xclusively in Japan itself) But later the scenario got worsened as the Satelaview server gave its last breath in summer of 2000 due to the Nintedo's Refusal partnership with the St.GIGA in 1999 (Plus ST.GIGA had alot of uncovered debts when this happened.St.GIGA decleared bankruptcy in 2003. 3 years after Satelaview's Discontinuation). If Nintedo had to sell the Satelaview worldwide. It will have been a Huge Success to anyone around the world. Too bad those who i mentioned ..din't came to the rest of the world. ☹️
It's the ancient software which gave origins for what we know today as "PSN". Back then SONY wanted to sell PS2 games for the HDD in Japan using this "browser". Then HD LOADER happened and they canned everything.
Leonard Oliveira , Did HD Loader have a way of transferring files using an on-board browser? I thought that HD Loader still depended upon an external file share / transfer via PC to a removed PS2 HDD or PC to PS2 vis ethernet connection or a otherwise a USB flash drive intermediate step... anthropologically curious.
You know it's not a good thing if Sony does something like this. "Consumers that knew about PlayStation Broadband Navigator were confused as to why it wasn't included with the HDD Utility Disc. SCEA's response was always that PlayStation Broadband Navigator would be released in North America "at a later date." This date now appears to be never in light that SCEA has switched to only manufacturing the slim, HDD-incompatible PS2 models and stopping manufacture of HDD units for their region."
In fact on this video I had some issues with the network not reaching the PSBBN server for version checks. Online functions only work after it does an version check (and it does not mention but at the time it checks the version it also does an DNAS check.)
A lot of the things I did (for my own amusement) come from the work of a lot of other people. I just helped around with ideas and spreading information. I'm not a programmer.
@DCUltimateMaster12 It complains about not being able to connect to the internet for the connection test and tell that performing an manual connection test/version check is required to enable network operation (online channels).
I just got mine out of storage after 7 years of it sitting there, still connects to the network! Is there any way to make the interface run in 16:9? And or in 480p?
I think it's already possible to do that. But it's not me who is working on that. Been a while since I posted this video and a lot of thing has happened since then.
Yes but in 2002 it was the best they could make it be like. I believe they made it be like some sort of dashboard on the console to give the feeling that it was part of the system... It wouldn't give that feeling if it was a disc, I think...
No it got disabled in 2008. With sony disable of DNAS service earlier this year PSBBN can no longer pass version check which fully disable online mode.
@@leonardoliveira I have a SCPH-30000 ps2 and a new HDD(PS original black box version) in it. It could be install but never show the screenshot as your video. And I cannot find the HDD on ps2 browser. But the HDD could be found in a game play and even install the game in HDD. I don’t know why. Could you help??
@@leonardoliveira thank you for you reply. A software disc come with the HDD(PS BB Navigator ver. 0.30) I did the installation but PS2 didn’t start with a new screen page like you😓😓.
FreeMCboot is basically a modchip... without a modchip. I'd reccomend you get FreeHDboot, so you don't take up all the space on your memory card, and it's more permanent. :)
Actually what is happening is that it left the signed boot loader program at the hdd MBR but removed the other stuff. The MBR is looking for the other stuff which is now missing (as the uninstall deleted it) and once not found it aborts boot. The problem is that when it aborts boot the PS2 tests for the HDD having a boot sector again, which in turn again invokes the HDD MBR and the loop repeats.
Their goal with that was do some kind of PSN service in it. It had a few commercial games work from it, lasted about eight years in service and that's about it.
PlayStation BB was a combination of a service (virtual store) and linux based browser software for the PS2 which formed what was the ancestor of the current "PSN" you see on the PS3 and PS4. It begun service in 2002 and ended in 2008. It was available only for Japan. There were several "channels" where famous Japanese companies would upload demo versions of their games for download (these would work from the HDD, without need a disc) and even one PS1 game could be downloaded and run from the HDD that way. I suspect their plan was to sell games online using PS BB service but they changed their mind when HD Loader released. From 2004 onwards they started to remove things from the service until 2008 when it closed completely. Today only thing available at PS BB is the "Koei Gamecity" channel (pictured on this video) because of their online game "Nobunaga Online".
+Leonard Oliveira so now that BBN has been discontinued completely, is there any way you can somehow save games on the memory card or hardrive and not have to use the disc? I'm new to this stuff but I am worried that my ps2 slims laser will die soon thanks for your reply
sadly it's a tad complicated, yes. I suggest you hang around the forum at psx-scene (google it) and learn some stuff there on what you can do with your PS2. You will really to enjoy it a lot more with knowledge.
+Dave G It was a replacement for the original PS2 browser which was installed on the HDD. Back then (2002) SONY had plans of making something in line what the PSN the PS3/PS4/PSP/PSV uses nowadays. It didn't go further and got slowly cancelled up around 2005. They finally closed it down completely in early 2015 by disabling the last game which used it (Nobunaga Ambition Online). I posted this video just to show how it could be used to load and launch games from the HDD. Games you would buy with credit card and download to your console through the internet. (like PSN is today, no?)
+Naim Arnold It was a service SONY had for the PS2 from 2002 until 2008 in Japan for all PS2 models which could use a HDD. It's "PSBBN" or "PlayStation BroadBand Navigator. It was a sort of browser which browsed the internet.
I don't want to be rude, but I don't think you happen to know what this video is about ... :) A few years ago reverse engineering of the PS3 security modules exposed the encryption keys for the PS2 "Magic Gate" security mechanism and since then "the scene" was able to boot stuff from memory card or hard drive in a completely legit unit. (no modchip) Before that an exploit was being used (Free MC Boot). And because the HDD boot file was not possible to be hacked, there were no way to use a HDD to boot the PS2. Now there's FHDB. (Free Hard Drive Boot) Since version 1.8C Free MC Boot has been using signed files instead of the exploit. On this video I was demonstrating boot up of signed files from the HDD. The HDD was never released on PAL regions so there were never PAL compatible HDD software until "the scene" hacked it to be "region free".
1:10 Omg.. The soft ambient tone sounds freaken beautiful.
I know right
Hell yeah even better
true man!
Yes, this was legit SONY software which was used in Japan starting around 2002 which replaced the HDD OSD software:
RUclips video ID for my HDD OSD vvideo: qxzHzLIdiWg
The point is that PSBBN was SONY first attempt at making something like the PS Store and PSN we have today on PS3/ PSP and PS Vita/PS4.
Dang it would be amazing if it happend
@@armorwolf7934 i hate abit japan cus is a country that *always* have the best stuff.
(in terms of game consoles and that kind of stuff).
and kinda sad that it never bring it in usa and european markets.
It's a sort of browser system SONY made in 2001 for the Japanese PS2 market. When they released it they renamed the HDD kit as "BB UNIT" and that browser replaces the original PS2 browser with one which is internet capable. They had also a sort of store where you could download demos of games and install on the HDD. It never made out outside of Japan.
If Sony didn't do that bs and sell it worldwide (around the world in simple words).It will have been a huge success .
Too bad it has been only in Japan.
Same thing happened to the Satelaview kit for the SNES (Which Has been sold xclusively in Japan itself)
But later the scenario got worsened as the Satelaview server gave its last breath in summer of 2000 due to the Nintedo's Refusal partnership with the St.GIGA in 1999 (Plus ST.GIGA had alot of uncovered debts when this happened.St.GIGA decleared bankruptcy in 2003. 3 years after Satelaview's Discontinuation).
If Nintedo had to sell the Satelaview worldwide.
It will have been a Huge Success to anyone around the world.
Too bad those who i mentioned ..din't came to the rest of the world.
☹️
Why have I only found out about this just now? How obscure even is this? Ah whatever, I absolutely LOVE IT.
me too!
Hi
It's the ancient software which gave origins for what we know today as "PSN".
Back then SONY wanted to sell PS2 games for the HDD in Japan using this "browser". Then HD LOADER happened and they canned everything.
Leonard Oliveira ,
Did HD Loader have a way of transferring files using an on-board browser? I thought that HD Loader still depended upon an external file share / transfer via PC to a removed PS2 HDD or PC to PS2 vis ethernet connection or a otherwise a USB flash drive intermediate step... anthropologically curious.
PlayStation Store (Beta) 2002 colorized
Wait that’s what that was?
Colour*
You know it's not a good thing if Sony does something like this.
"Consumers that knew about PlayStation Broadband Navigator were confused as to why it wasn't included with the HDD Utility Disc. SCEA's response was always that PlayStation Broadband Navigator would be released in North America "at a later date." This date now appears to be never in light that SCEA has switched to only manufacturing the slim, HDD-incompatible PS2 models and stopping manufacture of HDD units for their region."
how the ps2 dashboard should've looked
Are you saying you aren’t satisfied with the one you got you ungrateful piece of crap the PS2 was awesome
@@SE7EN306 lmao it had nothing
@J.Adra delusional
I mean, you're not wrong. But the original dashboard still looks cool, like if it had another level to the dashboard it should look like this
@@ene_n what the heck did you reply to? There’s no comment there.
I must’ve deleted it or something
I hope it wasn’t something embarrassing 😕
In fact on this video I had some issues with the network not reaching the PSBBN server for version checks. Online functions only work after it does an version check (and it does not mention but at the time it checks the version it also does an DNAS check.)
Leonard Oliveira get just
this is very better than the original one from PlayStation 2!
wew, this was ahead of its time
A lot of the things I did (for my own amusement) come from the work of a lot of other people. I just helped around with ideas and spreading information. I'm not a programmer.
@DCUltimateMaster12
It complains about not being able to connect to the internet for the connection test and tell that performing an manual connection test/version check is required to enable network operation (online channels).
I feel robbed of this experience
also just when you think the ps2 sounds couldn't get scarier. then there's this shit
They sound more dreamlike and heavenly.
I just got mine out of storage after 7 years of it sitting there, still connects to the network! Is there any way to make the interface run in 16:9? And or in 480p?
I think it's already possible to do that. But it's not me who is working on that.
Been a while since I posted this video and a lot of thing has happened since then.
This was released in Japan only I believe. It should of been released outside Japan.
Is this possible to install the PlayStation BroadBand Navigator on European console 39003 with Network Adaptor and IBM 40GB HDD?
That one, no that's a amateur/homebrew program called "micro launch elf" or "uLE".
this would be cool as a flasher and an addon os for the ps2!
So, was this an early version of the PSN store but on PS2?
Yes but in 2002 it was the best they could make it be like. I believe they made it be like some sort of dashboard on the console to give the feeling that it was part of the system... It wouldn't give that feeling if it was a disc, I think...
+Leonard Oliveira Making it a disc would be like the whole PS2 1.1 system update disc all over again.
wow its HD
PSBBN (PlayStation Broadband Navigator) for PS2 (PlayStation 2), yo
Is Hudson channel still work?
No it got disabled in 2008. With sony disable of DNAS service earlier this year PSBBN can no longer pass version check which fully disable online mode.
Is it true this allowed you to download full games directly into the HDD?
Is it start up the screen with PlayStation BB on top left??
This is a software which is installed on the HDD. It boots from the HDD and replace the old normal PS2 menu when the HDD is connected.
@@leonardoliveira I have a SCPH-30000 ps2 and a new HDD(PS original black box version) in it. It could be install but never show the screenshot as your video. And I cannot find the HDD on ps2 browser. But the HDD could be found in a game play and even install the game in HDD. I don’t know why. Could you help??
@@canvgo That's because the PSNBB software has to be installed from a PS2 disc (CD-ROM or DVD ROM) which comes with the HDD drive when bought new.
@@leonardoliveira thank you for you reply. A software disc come with the HDD(PS BB Navigator ver. 0.30) I did the installation but PS2 didn’t start with a new screen page like you😓😓.
can i copy game from disc in hdd with this software? hdd loader could be include?
You can use a program called HDLGameInstaller (search that name in google)
but my ps2 no mod chip ! just a ps2 with adapter and hdd!
+quan pham hong quan There is Free MC BOOT which let you load things from memory card or usb.
FreeMCboot is basically a modchip... without a modchip.
I'd reccomend you get FreeHDboot, so you don't take up all the space on your memory card, and it's more permanent. :)
television and cheese impossible! how can it be? can you tell me how to put freemcboot or freehdboot in memory card without modchip? or swapdisc?
That is a early beta of Psn store,they was trying to make a new menu? They did want to people buy digital game?
The First question actually yes, the second idk lmao...
can I download this?
Very likely you can, but this stuff is super slow and takes up 20% of your hard drive space. I don't have that installed on my PS2 anymore.
+Leonard Oliveira ok thanks anyway
the grandmother of the XMB?!?! awesome
This is speculation, but I wonder if Sony wanted to bring the PS2 into more of a lockstep with the Xbox?
swear free HD BOOT corrupts itself when you try to uninstall it, and sends your ps2 into a continuous boot up
Actually what is happening is that it left the signed boot loader program at the hdd MBR but removed the other stuff. The MBR is looking for the other stuff which is now missing (as the uninstall deleted it) and once not found it aborts boot. The problem is that when it aborts boot the PS2 tests for the HDD having a boot sector again, which in turn again invokes the HDD MBR and the loop repeats.
Therefore, I suggest you report that to FHDB authors.
Launching PSBBN...
Please do not turn off the console.
Is it discontinued?
Is the Navigator installed to the HDD?
Looks like Windows Media Center for PlayStation 2
Their goal with that was do some kind of PSN service in it. It had a few commercial games work from it, lasted about eight years in service and that's about it.
What is PlayStationBB
PlayStation BB was a combination of a service (virtual store) and linux based browser software for the PS2 which formed what was the ancestor of the current "PSN" you see on the PS3 and PS4. It begun service in 2002 and ended in 2008. It was available only for Japan.
There were several "channels" where famous Japanese companies would upload demo versions of their games for download (these would work from the HDD, without need a disc) and even one PS1 game could be downloaded and run from the HDD that way.
I suspect their plan was to sell games online using PS BB service but they changed their mind when HD Loader released. From 2004 onwards they started to remove things from the service until 2008 when it closed completely.
Today only thing available at PS BB is the "Koei Gamecity" channel (pictured on this video) because of their online game "Nobunaga Online".
+Leonard Oliveira so now that BBN has been discontinued completely, is there any way you can somehow save games on the memory card or hardrive and not have to use the disc?
I'm new to this stuff but I am worried that my ps2 slims laser will die soon thanks for your reply
I've added games on the harddrive using a customized GUI-less mod of open PS2 loader...
+Leonard Oliveira sounds complicated. I'm new to this stuff. tell me more....
sadly it's a tad complicated, yes.
I suggest you hang around the forum at psx-scene (google it) and learn some stuff there on what you can do with your PS2. You will really to enjoy it a lot more with knowledge.
What program is this for?
Heh. I set my PSBB into Eigo before, I understood nothing.
+Tenjin Charm (山形あゆみ)
I wonder why there was an English option if it was only released in Japan.
NovaXP Agree. But on multiple consoles it has the option. I wonder why?
They probably did that because the normal japan PS2 has an option for english.
@@televisionandcheese basically true for some reason
How did you achieve all of this?
thats fucking awesome
please make a rewiev of a playstation 2 x-perience console.... if you get one :D
PSBB Is in JPN
PlayStation BroadBand Navigator (PSBBN)
I just don't get this :/
+Dave G It was a replacement for the original PS2 browser which was installed on the HDD. Back then (2002) SONY had plans of making something in line what the PSN the PS3/PS4/PSP/PSV uses nowadays. It didn't go further and got slowly cancelled up around 2005. They finally closed it down completely in early 2015 by disabling the last game which used it (Nobunaga Ambition Online).
I posted this video just to show how it could be used to load and launch games from the HDD. Games you would buy with credit card and download to your console through the internet. (like PSN is today, no?)
Your comment were just as boring. Oh and I don't like PSBBN at all but a lot of people seem to.
What does BB in PSBBN mean?
Andre Padilla BB is short for BroadBand
i dont understand this
In this video I was showing a Japan only PS2 software which installed on the hdd and replaced the normal PS2 menus.
i know but what is PSBB
+Naim Arnold It was a service SONY had for the PS2 from 2002 until 2008 in Japan for all PS2 models which could use a HDD. It's "PSBBN" or "PlayStation BroadBand Navigator. It was a sort of browser which browsed the internet.
oooh
that's what the n meant
Because it's meant to be used by Japanese people. :)
Youre best
so Classic
😲😲😲😲
Aoooooooooooooou
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Masters Of The Memes 456 PS2 Japones com o HDD oficial e o programa PSBBN instalado. Esse PSBBN substitui o menu original do PS2.
Leonard Oliveira Muda muita coisa? Tipo o menu onde se os saves files? (PORTUGUESE PORTUGAL)
I don't want to be rude but that type of playstation doesen't exist
I don't want to be rude, but I don't think you happen to know what this video is about ... :)
A few years ago reverse engineering of the PS3 security modules exposed the encryption keys for the PS2 "Magic Gate" security mechanism and since then "the scene" was able to boot stuff from memory card or hard drive in a completely legit unit. (no modchip)
Before that an exploit was being used (Free MC Boot). And because the HDD boot file was not possible to be hacked, there were no way to use a HDD to boot the PS2. Now there's FHDB. (Free Hard Drive Boot)
Since version 1.8C Free MC Boot has been using signed files instead of the exploit.
On this video I was demonstrating boot up of signed files from the HDD.
The HDD was never released on PAL regions so there were never PAL compatible HDD software until "the scene" hacked it to be "region free".