MS: The Basics - Symptoms of Multiple Sclerosis
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- In this video, Dr. Ben Thrower discusses the symptoms of MS. Dr. Thrower is a neurologist and serves as the Medical Director of the Andrew C. Carlos Multiple Sclerosis Institute at the Shepherd Center in Atlanta.
Thank you for this succinct specific presentation! It is MIND BOGGLING how many Docs are so incredibly ignorant as to tell patients with these kinds of symptoms that "its all in your head", or 'normal aging', or..'did all the rule-out lab tests, it's nothing", etc.
Or, an HMO makes a patient reporting a serious neuro event wait 1.5+ months to get into a Neuro appointment, then do only a cursory eval., and tell the patient "you are fine, go and be happy". Makes one wonder, HOW MANY people never get diagnosed, or, MISdiagnosed?
We have so many, per population, struggling to get by daily, existing as "walking wounded"! And a medical system which gave up looking for root-causes, only throwing pills or treatments to cover symptoms.
Winter Star you hit the nail on the head there. I was telling my doctor about some really weird symptoms I was having, and he literally said some things are just a medical mystery. Than he said the next step is just to ignore it. I got pretty freaked out at that point and realized just how important health is cause your fucked once you lose it.
You got it they take your money and push you out the door. Hard to find a good doctor these days
Where do you live? I’m from NY & that didn’t happen to me 22 years ago!!!
@@karend99143 Umm..what did you refer to?
yep im struggling to get a neuro appointment now, my doctor is totally dismissing me and just says im depressed.
Dr. Thrower is my doctor. He is super and so kind. I drive 2 hours to see him every 3 months.
Coimbra Protocol cures MS in more than 90% of the cases.
Excellent Video! Sorry for the intrusion, I would love your thoughts. Have you considered - Dinanlinson Taking Peace Approach (just google it)? It is a smashing one off guide for overcoming your Multiple Sclerosis symptoms minus the normal expense. Ive heard some great things about it and my buddy finally got astronomical success with it.
Very well put descriptions of the symptoms and how to understand what an MS patient means when they describe it. Particularly the fatigue bit is spot on.
Just like to mention: Fatigue is NOT the same as feeling Tired! Every single day at around 12:00 & 3:00 pm, I am extremely Fatigued, yet do not have the initiative to take a nap!
Did u ever get diagnosed for your fatigue?
@@7HEREALDON Yes, it’s caused due to MS
@@karend99143 I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you're getting the proper treatment. I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea but I still have alot of the symptoms that caused me to get diagnosed and a part of me think I may have MS. What tests did you go through to get tested? I got an MRI done in December of my brain but came back normal
@@7HEREALDON I also had a Spinal Cord MRI, Spinal Tap (Not the Band, lol) & a Neurological Exam. It all depends on what your Symptoms are. My very first symptom was Optic Neuritis & Severe Shocks in the back of my legs when I bent my head down. Lyme Disease Could also be a factor. I hope you can get a Great Neurologist & figure this out. I know how frustrating not knowing & getting the proper treatment can be!
@@karend99143 they couldn't diagnose without the spinal tap? My symptoms have been really bad fatigue/sleepiness, lightheaded/dizzy, headaches off and on that I would never get before all this and this really bad unwell feeling that makes me feel like I might die. I haven't had any of the symptoms that affect how I use my body or numbness. I have another appointment on Tuesday with my pcp and I'm going to ask her to test me for Ms. I already got tested for Lyme and bunch of other tests that came back normal. I really hate life right now because I feel like i spent my day wondering if I'm going to feel unwell. It'll be 8 months now. I went to a neurologist back in October and he suggested a few MRI tests but I only got the brain one because by insurance sucked and it was going to be the end of the year so my deductible would reset soon. Did they find lesions on your MRIs?
Man, now I have more clues, as to what is happening to me. Thank You.
Very good Dr. presents organized and clear information Thank You
I have fibromyalgia and a lot of the symptoms with fibromyalgia and Ms are almost just alike !
really???
My dr said you don’t fall with fibto.
I have fibromyalgia also. Not sure if I have MS.
Katondra Watkins so does Lime Disease
I have fibromyalgia too and my best friend has MS. I do fall due to sciatic nerve pain in my right leg.
This is amazing, we do not know each other, but Dr. Thower, just described me fully, wow!
after 12 years and 20 different neurological doctors the last Dr diagnosed me with 2ndary progressive MS, and I was already on a will chair by the 4th year of having all the symptoms. I am very ANGRY . all these doctors had plenty of symptoms and years to test me fo MS and they didn't do it. Now, I am bed bound for ever and I am full of life but quadriplegic. I am very MAD at the health system.
20 neurologist? Lol sorry but no. I call bullshit
+Ofelia Naveira My mom(73) had a stroke ,viewing her brain images,the Neuro pointed to brain/spine lesions & said MS.Told me about Copaxone that was the end of her involvement no help what so ever except "come back every month" & I was on my own entirely researching everything.Got 2nd opinion,said guaranteed not,3rd yes,(I can't even go into everything that happened & detail & there is so frikkin much)tens & tens & tens of thousands in testing, repeat testing Universities,spinal taps EVERYTHING.2 more informal opinions both different.I had to stop the merry go round.Went with MS,Copaxone for years, hospitalizations,extreme steroid treatments(diabetic) after more more strokes,I switched Neuros they poured over all the information, labs, imaging, * told em I'm not interested in another opinion,they did it anyway..flip flopped 3 times on MS or not.Last was not & stop the Copaxone. I stopped it after a couple months & nothing happened.long story short.. She never had MS,she has a mountain of other serious conditions that account for everything,they exploited the shit out of her insurance & savings,really had no concrete way to diagnose MS,passed her around to to their medical friends..there's way more to this & no possible way to capture it here.You think it's way more together out there in the medical community..& you find out how god damn scary,the incompetence the exploitation & complete doc/patient disconnect it really is.Sorry about the length of this I wasn't going to do it.I don't have what you have but have been bewildered & humiliated by the health system.
I cant afford the test (no insurance) cant get gov assistance cause i dont have test to prove conditions... florida healthcare the circle to nowhere without insurance not a concern no matter whats going on its awful doctors have become judges at the fastfood clinics from health ...
@@tjfreak its awful in florida the insane county programs send you to places that run same tests on everyone (the ones that take all the funds out in least amount of visits) they let the neuro office decide how and what tests the likited amount of county funds allocated to help me would be used for without asking my concent i needed mri got 3 sets of nerve tests lol and thats now mothing left to even cover a follow up to hear the results they cancelled my follow up now i dod all this testing and dont even know the results... also they immediately preacribed me 7 different anti sezure and neuro meds that hard 9 drug knteraction warnkngs if used together ³ severe interaction warnings cause heart attacks stroke and death ... how you gonna have someone take all these meds and you didnt even do blood panel yet ? Wtf is wrong with healthcare in america ...
Ofelia Naveira The US health system is trying to either kill everyone or make us all chronic cases so we are totally dependent on them. I have lots of conditions and went to Mayo Clinic who lied to me and told me a heart rate of 30 is “normal” during sleep. 30 is near death and only on my own was I able to figure out I have sleep apnea which can be deadly. I am still preparing to sue them.
Stop putting such a happy fucking song in the beginning of the video. Getting Multiple Sclerosis isn't a fucking happy thing.
I have spent months studying treating ms naturally and found an awesome website at Denelle multi care (google it if you're interested)
That was your very interesting post, Some of the natural cures for ms are...
Get enough rest
Exercising, yoga, tai chi, meditation, deep breathing, hypnosis,
make use of green juice, chlorella, spirullina, fresh organic fruits and vegetables, sunflower oils, evening primrose oil etc.
Some things to avoid if you have ms are alcohol, dairy products, eggs, hydrogenated oils, margarine, milk, red meats, sugar, aspartame.
(I discovered these and why they work on Denelle Multi Care website )
Edward Fominykh
Thank you Dr. Thrower for sharing some of your insights into MS. Luckily, I don't have any MS in any of my family so hoping I never develop this devastating illness.
Dale Andrews oo
Are random sharp pains that come and go on random parts of the body related to MS? What about strange pressure like sensation in the head and pain in the eye?
Death_Dealer pressure in the eyes is a glaucoma thing I'm pretty sure
I get severe allergies. I get crippling head pressure
[note to others: yes, I know this is a fossil post...but some might be curious of the answer.]
--> Depends on how old you are, and, what else do you notice over time.
But short answer is yess, those can be symptoms--but can also be symptoms of many other ills. These few symptoms are not enough to base a diagnosis on.
It can still [weirdly] take years for commercial Docs to diagnose MS.
If someone has struggled with mild symptoms for decades, but takes good care of themselves to keep severity of symptoms low, Docs will fail to see any point in even looking, of even running any tests.
Nice video, thank you.
Thank you for this information. I am making an appointment with my doctor Monday.
I got diagnosed in 2021 at 23. Optic neuritis was my first symptom. Painful stuff.
What if you have 70% of these symptoms and your doctor still says you don't have MS?.
They dont care. Im sorry. Keep trying friend
I had a bad case of MS, after 6 years of studying Orthomolecular medicine, I learned the approach to recover from MS is to repair the Myielin covering the nerves,. I took daily Vitamin B12 in shots or under the tong. , this is because the intrinsic factor in the stomac is not transporting the B12 to the Elium, to be absorved, and eventually we develop the MS.....I had Bone brocth, the Marroe is the best collagen, and also the basic element to rebuild the Myelin already damaged,, take vit C 2000 mgs, Carnitine and Creatine ,VIT D3, Zink Magnesium,, MSM and Turmeric for inflamation., this is the only way to recover from MS. ..I recovered.
Can you be more specific on the vitamins can you email me? please thank you
Fernando Abenoza I
There are several ideas for curing multiple sclerosis
Make sure you consume enough fruit and vegetables (ideally organic).
Take vitamin C
Get a bit of exercise eg walking, yoga etc
make use of herbs with infection fighting properties such as myrrh and burdock and others including huang qi
(I learned these and why they work on Denelle multi care site )
Fernando Abenoza It has also been linked to diabetes and high basal insulin levels. Fasting has been linked as part of a cure.
thank you
Thank you for your helpful video, to the point and succinct. I can understand that MS is a very challenging diagnosis to make with 100% accuracy, simply because of the extensive number of potential side effects (which in and of themselves, could be very easily any number of possible acute or chronic medical conditions to be yet undiagnosed as MS) and how each person presents themselves through such a wide reaching number of side effects. Thanks to you again.
Is a feeling like rain on my head sm
I've had extreme pain in my leg , my motor skill in my right leg is bad , I hurt all day everyday and in going to get a professional opinion, I M extremely scared. My lower back and side of my leg are in pain and never thought it could be something, my memory is bad , hopefully it's nothing
what about headaches and muscle cramping.
Could be a magnesium or potassium deficiency
My Dr did start me on Magnesium’s, Also D-2. They have dot considered this MS. Im also weak, dizzy often, cant think clear all of sudden, hands dont hit the mark often. Im worried, also pains that go around my abdomen with weak legs.
@@Mojotown69 did you figure it out yet?
That was a informative article, here are a few more tips for a treatment for MS
Get enough rest
Exercising, yoga, tai chi, meditation, deep breathing, hypnosis,
Use green juice, wheatgrass, spirullina, fruit and veg - organic are best sunflower oils, flaxseed oil, etc.
Some things to avoid if you have ms are alcohol, dairy products, eggs, commercially prepared and fast foods, hydrogenated oils, margarine, milk, red meats, commercial salt, sugar, aspartame.
saiful rasel or you can get put on meds
@@TheDude420.69 thats most peoples entire diet lol ... ouch .. i cant exercise properly i injure myself so bad i get bed ridden for 2 days everytime o try not sure but probably need a physical therapist before i do any yoga..
Thanks for the info
I do most of those already but if I may ask why avoid eggs? I was told that we should eat eggs not just for protein but because it has choline
Does anybody have advice on how to talk to my dr? I don't want a misdiagnosis of ms if that's not what's going on but the symptoms are very congruent. I had chronic pain for years but nothing with the numbness/ tingling and weird vision problems like now, i also didn't have sudden onset of extreme fatigue until the last year and a half, etc. So one rheumatologist hears only fatigue and pain for years and goes 'fibromyalgia' any symptom is fibro to him. I went to another and she dismissed fibromyalgia but is bent on it being nerve damage from potential ankylosing spondelitis (coincidentally that clinic is doing research on that). She wouldn't pay attention to symptoms that don't go along with it at all. A neurologist did a basic nerve conduction test and it seems ok so he thinks its nerves in my neck.... Sometimes patients are hypochondriac and think they have a specific disorder they don't have but I'm feeling like the specialists have reverse hypochondria lol.
MooseCracker you are so right!!! I suffer from Ménière's disease, RA, Psoriatic arthritis, and my rheumatologist says Fibro, but when my collar bone starts showing a lump that grows into a huge mass he says; Its osteoarthritis and bursitis......I'm 46. 3 other Drs are very concerned but not him lol, even after he overlooked my symptoms for colon cancer saying it was just IBS, then my GP sends me to a gastro Dr and finds 2 cancerous polyps. I'm not a hypochondriac by any means, but doctors shouldn't blow things off so quickly
@@angelag7992 wow
Winston Smith They’re just interested in billing and have time to actually help patients.
A lot of these posts sound like they could be related to gluten sensitivity to me.
I suggest reading "The Gluten Effect." It is a wonderful book written by 2
Chiropractors with degrees in nutrition. According to this book you could
end up with difficulty absorbing certain vitamins and minerals which can lead
to a whole host of problems.
I would have said something similar before I read more. Gluten problems have been around since the 1930's.
There are too many books on the subject for a brief summary. Gluten is in everything these days.
It is in everything from pasta sauce to shampoo. It makes the breads soft and spongy. People often
claim that what they don't know about is all in the head of the other person. You are not the first and
I am sure you won't be the last. Over exposure to ingredients can cause sensitivity.
I have been having vision issues and falling a lot. My balance is way off. I look like a drunk when I walk. My memory is messing with me too, I know that I know something but it doesn’t come to me right away. I always find the words I’m looking for but not always right when I want them. That dang needles in my arms and numbness in my feet and hands makes it hard to feel my feet when I try to walk as well as sit up in bed. My hand and wrists just don’t work and I fall , it’s too weird.So finally After saying enough times I’m falling and don’t know why, I am dead tired like I have never been before. Sometimes I hav3 to just stop and sit or lay down,. My chin quivers intermittently and drives me nuts. The weirdest hung though is the feeling of cold drops of water running down the outside of my legs. When it happens I swear there are water droplets but no. Dry . I just hope my persistence in getting an explanation is gonna finally give me an answer.
Hi Delainey, today Dr. Ben Thrower will have webinar. It's about spasms, but at the end he will answer questions live in case you want to talk to him. This is the link to register today 07/27/21 at 3:30 pm msfocus.us/Thrower0721
Don’t forget about brain atrophy. My memory is shot because of my brain atrophy but I did get in a bad motorcycle accident which I got a bad TBI. Plus I broke my neck and few other vertebrates, both wrist and both ankles, three ribs, compound fracture fracture of my tib/fib.
@@myando46 contact DR RORPOPOR HERBAL with this link and get Cured totally 👇
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I have all these symptoms and they are getting worse. Had mri and dr tells me he found nothing except one little spot. ?
This is me. All the symptoms and one spot on the brain. Tried to say its migranes. I know good and well that these aren't headaches.
I am 84 yrs old and have Heart Failure and end-stage Kidney Failure.now i seem to have symptoms of MS. Can you give me some hope for the future?
Jean Orwin Stay strong my friend,you are not alone.🙁
Jean Orwin Gluten free jean good luck love
Yes and I am Prayin for you right now! I pray God gives u hope and peace that passes all understanding!💓and that God heals ur sick little body and makes it strong as u are inside ! In Jesus Holy precious name!
How r u now..? Wish you healthy recovery from all your problems.. 😞
@@chandrabrown5804 I don't know you Chandra, but I love you!
well let put this way, I was told on march 3 2014 that I have RRMS and most likely have some 25 years but know one new it. but now I can see why I always had times that I just didn't feel like doing anything "you know" just let me be.
What about progessive muscle shinking/atrophy?
idrather. goblind Could also be diabetes - sudden muscle loss is one of the symptoms.
I've been having numbness, all down one side of my body, facial dropping, double vision, consistent muscle spazems.. Both eyes flicker, shoulder pain, back pain muscles contortions and burning hips with pain and numbness. Shooting down the inside of my legs, tounge spazems goinibg down into my belly. Brain fog which is the nasty one, it totally decapitated me, it's like a sharp pain from the crown of my head all the way down my arms in to my fingers, I can't think talk its like a fog that makes me completely unable to do a thing... This comes and goes...
Dynamic Design LTD Try fast and eat paleo. No carbs, no sugars, no chemicals in food. There’s a vid of a cello player with MS and he cured himself by drinking half his bodyweight in water daily.
@@tenminutetokyo2643 that much water is literally deadly.
And telling people with neurological disorders to totally remove carbohydrates, the literal basis of human nutrition / fuel is dangerous as well.
@@BagelBagelBagel You'd better watch the TeD talk about the cello player who cured himself of MS by drinking 1/2 his body weight in water daily. You're totally ignorant. Carbs are very dangerous and can cause NAFLD. High carb diets are now also known to cause heart disease because they drive insulin which stores fat and messes up the HDL/LDL balance.
I love ur video. I'm hoping for a break.🤞❤
My legs get hard as a rockon muy thigh... And its hosts to walk is this a symptom??
I got diagnosed with sinus tachycardia
Cardiologist said its multiple sclerosis related..neurologist said I don't think so
Unbelievable.
howd it go?
I suspect that I may be in begging stages of MS. I’ve noticed that symptoms get triggered by consuming things that contain certain types of oil, such as sunflower oil. I know that sunflower oil is processed to remove waxy components, so it will not be saturated or semi saturated. I don’t know if the chemicals used in this process cause this, or if the problem is that is that it’s high in omega 6 fatty acids, rather than omega 3. I feel similarly effected by other lipids that have a high ratio of omega 6 in them. I’m fine with unadulterated, virgin olive oil and unprocessed coconut oil. I seem to be fine with walnut oil also.
Shungite See Dr. Whalls’ vids on how she reversed her MS with diet. No processed foods, carbs, or sugar.
I've got numbness all the time. This disease sucks!
Miss Dog Lover Stop eating all carbs and sugar.
Doctor can you recommend an MS physician in or near Aurora Il. Please and thank you.
Dr Okolo herbal medicine formula can cure you completely from MS
My sister is 32 years old and she has suffered from meniere disease for years and she always complains to me that I had to bought her Dr Madida herbs I saw on RUclips and she is telling me last month that she is cured completely and don’t long have the symptoms like vertigo or dizziness, feeling of fullness in the ear or ringing, hearing loss, imbalance, motion sickness, nausea, or nystagmus🎉🎉.
My career cannot be done from a weelchair....I am co-principle bassoonist in a professional orchestra!!!
wendy kemp so sorry to hear this. Most people don't understand the relationship musicians have with their music and instrument. Wishing you wellness and happiness.
I also cringed at that statement..
EYEAMCREATED i retired a year 1/2 ago. I am good!
W K See the vid of a TED talk by a professional cello player who cured his MS.
3:07 fatigue is one of the symptoms of ME/CFS.
I know someone who says they were healed by the church but does anyone have a proper reason for why MS would just disappear.??
bluntly honest Removal of the toxins causing it - usually from food, water, and air pollution. Sweating is very important.
Can someone tell me if they have MS and have ever had Juvaderm in their lips?
Wtf? Why is that relevant
Lavender Luna She may be trying to see if there's a correlation between the two...
does anyone know if migraines are related to MS?
I like to know that...
Migraines are related to a lot of autoimmune diseases and MS is an autoimmune disease!
Heather Beckner if the migrains are in one place in head not all over,,get an mri to be sure
Heather Beckner Heather I have been diagnosed with M.S 2001 and I never had headaches but in 2013 I started with this huge & MASSIVE headache which I had to rush to hospital result after lots of tests they told me that I do have migraines which now as soon as I feel it is coming back I take painkiller to prevent it !
im 52 with ppms my experience is that migraine location shows where lessions are in head,if they always happen in same location..but thats the least of the ms problems as you get older..
Can someone please tell me if a large amount of alcohol consumption with MS causes chest pain. Pain such as tightening and squeezing motions thank you
I dont know but that sounds like MS juf from what I've read
ashton pro Definitely - probably as a result of asthma brought on by lung nerve malfunction.
Do you have root canal procedure in teeth, if you don't mind me asking? As some researchs claim it's one of the causes?!!
i'm scared i'm only 16 and i've been having nonstop numbness in my right side back ,and my eye is twitchy :"(
Anna Yactayo get an mri to be sure
Anna Yactayo
Hi,
Read the Gluten Effect. Are you carrying your phone over there or near any other electrical items on
that side? You should not put your cell up to your head. Use ear buds. Your body runs on electric charges.
You do not want to interfere with your cell's communications. Avoid sugar, processed food, caffeine. Eat lots of veggies with citrus. Drink lots of water. Maybe look into supplements of alpha lipoic acid, b vitamins although
gluten problems can sometimes impair absorption. Your nerves are constantly communicating with your brain.
This sounds like impaired communication. Also try to make sure you are breathing clean air. Smoke can seep
through the walls into your air space and make you sick. Read zapped and keep anything electrical at least 5 feet
away.
i had same when i was 11,,nothing you can do .there is no fix for ms..
Lol I'm sure you're okay
things get worse over decades
Migraines? Heck yeah.
You just listed every symptom somebody has while stressed, and this is the sort of thing that most doctors will write or laugh off, but they should be taking other people more seriously, and this isn't too helpful either
Oopss7 They are too busy raking in $ billing insurance companies to take people seriously.
heavy metal toxicity causes the same symptoms I know
Jeff you made me happy knowing that. Heavy metals and GMOs destroy health.
Jeff Riles How do you detox them?
@@tenminutetokyo2643 chelation therapy, some people use honey bee sting treatment
Ok!
Iwan akong bakas sayo
I suffer from something and doctors dont know what but currently awaiting results from my Neurologist. I have suffered for many years with my legs where i suffer extreme fatigue and muscle cramps for up to 10 minutes where im screaming in agony from sometimes triggered by nothing at all. Its worse if i have exercised too. The main symptoms are fatigue which then triggers the cramps and also get spasms, throbbing, twitching and dull aches, shooting pains and the feeling i cannot support my body weight. I sometimes cannot sleep because of it and if i bend my legs im certain to get severe cramp again. Its cost me 5 jobs and now i cannot even cope with a 16 hour week job as it hurts being on my feet. I am currently awaiting results from an EMG nerve conduction test and MRI scan on my brain and spine so im hoping to get an answer from them. But can i ask if anyone knows wether this is MS related ? On the other hand maybe its Benign cramp fasciculation syndrome.
Any help is really appreciated as its really getting me down.
Thanks for your time.
+Britmatt81 Magnesium deficiency can cause cramps. Try supplementing with magnesium citrate...worth a try. Magnesium oxide is harder to absorb, so make sure its citrate. Good luck
make sure they check your calcium levels to. i have similar symptoms like yours and ms but i cant be hypochondria. im born with hypocalcemia then again, it can worsen into different form of illness every time im ageing.
Thank you that's quite helpful. I had my results back as normal so the doctors have discharged me again. So now im back to the beginning again. So frustrating sometimes i can hardly walk. The doctors dont know what it is or even specialists. Im very alone with the problem and dont know where to turn to. I will try this and see how i get on. Thank you.
did you do MRI?
I have similar and am having a blood test and MRI scan today. In between time I am looking into vitamin/mineral deficiencies that cause cramping and twitching in the legs etc Potassium and Magnesium etc
My Ayurveda doctor cured two patient from MS. I am start taking the medicine he prescribed me,