Rogue Invitationals Controversial Athlete Lineup? (2024)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Rogue has announced the athlete lineup for the 2024 Rogue Invitational...and we have our own mixed opinions about the list.
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Mateusz wanted to be part of the Rogue, he was also planning to do some Giant's Live comp but in the end of they year but only if it had similar events as Rogue. He is sponsored by Rogue, he had every intention to do the show. Once invitations were annoucned and someone asked him why he is not on the list, he replied with "shrug" icon.
No disrepect to Tom Evans or Luke, but they deserve spot much less than Kieliszkowski, Trey or even Pavlo. Also, Lucas Hatton would be my pick as well. I'm sick they would rather overpay women than invite extra athletes that surely deserve the spot in a such comp.
I find this statement problematic regarding the women. I found the women's event to be just as good if not better at arnold's. I do agree that Mateus not being invited is ridiculous though.
@@justinwynn2294 It's not about finding something "as good if not better". I find powerlifting more entertaining than football, but guess what, reality doesn't care about my opinion, it cares only about numbers it generates and sorry, football generates well more viewers than powerlfiting, so powerlifters are compensated well below what football players make.
Same goes for strongman/strongwomen. I also enjoy watching women compete, but it does not change the fact they are way less popular. Just by looking at IG follower's count - among 2024's Rogue list, men have median of 115k followers and women just 23k.
I just really hate this massive push towards equality, or actually equity. It creates more problems than it solves. For instance, Rogue has fixed prize pool for both, male and female competitors. It means they cannot really expand male's list to 12 or more athletes, because they would have to do the same with women's list and invite some atheletes that won't perform on the level as those who are part of the comp right now. I can only think of Gabbi Dixon to be worth inviting, maybe there is another Australian athelte that I don't remember, but women's athlete pool is much smaller and we don't want to see multiple zeroed events by roaster fillers.
Another solution would be to increase the prize pool for men so there can be extra invites that are well deseved like Kieliszkowski, Trey or Pavlo Kordyiaka, but again, this artificial move towards equity would crumble.
@@justinwynn2294 If only the women competed you would have maybe 2-300 people watching. The men are the draw. Saying that the women deserve the same pay is absolutely absurd.
@@justinwynn2294 What a loser comment no one watches women Strongman. 90% of the community doesn't care and pushing for this equality is not equality otherwise they would separate the women and let them draw their own crowd but everyone knows they can and I 1000% rather have Trey and Mateus and not even have a women show, and I'm not in the minority
Mateusz was on the podium last year so he definitely warrants an invite. And everyone always wants to see him compete.
Yep
Does Mateuz ever been lower than Luke even with injuries?
I don't remember that Luke has ever beat mateuz
Hell mateuz was beating tom in most shows @jukoliste82
Yeah
I think it’s pretty bullshit that Trey didn’t get an invite considering it is entirely Rogues fault he got injured. Unsafe event with stupid changes made at the last second. They knew the guys couldn’t pull that bull after the kit was moved inside, instead of finding why it wouldn’t move well, they just gave them a rope, ridiculous!
That's my issue with Rogue they seem to worry more about event looks than how safe it is because that Bullpull was not safe
@@petershortland478 wasn't he the only one that picked up an injury on that event? if it was actually unsafe more athletes would have gotten fucked up on it no? i think martins mentioned the injury in one of the last videos he put out, and it sounds like a choice of technique issue on less than ideal equipment than an actually unsafe event.
Injuries happen in strongman. It is not rogues 'fault', I think the event was poor but to blame them entirely is just wrong, and only hurts the sport because it turns away promoters
If anything wouldn't the fact that he got a career-threatening injury at their comp make them more apprehensive to have him back? Especially if they might be trying to use the bull pull this year with some improvements
even brian said that it wasn't a safe event
Trey definitely should've been invited considering he got injured at their show and their miss event
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He’s not even top 15 right now, I’m wondering more about Maxime Boudreault or Wesley derwinsky who are #2 and 3 in Canada right now but somehow hoath got invited over them
Kielsz tore his Achilles in April, it’s probably too soon for him
I dont think they can't invite Luke he is still current ESM and id also say with this being the first time Rouge is held in Scotland nobody's going to bring more fans to this show than the Stoltman brothers.
ya... but he also got like 9th at wsm?... I'm not sure inviting him was a wise choice
@malcolm5514 9th is inside the top ten so it makes sense to me and it's a business at the end of the day it will be thinking about ticket sales so I'd say that was the main reason for his invite.
It's in Scotland, so they have to invite Luke
@@colinduncan4295 Really I thought it was a sport.
@@erebus79All professional sports are business. It’s entertainment and I’m Rogue’s case marketing for gear.
When the event is held in the backyard of one of the most popular athletes in the sport who is also the reigning ESM and a WSM finalist they are going to invite him even if he isn’t the best choice.
Best Pro Strongman commentary on YT. Keep it up guys.
@@bradprovik453 thank you 🙏
The fact that no one is talking about Pavlo Kordiyaka is fucking criminal. He's a ESM winner, 2 times WSM finalist. He beat Luke at this year's WSM... Tom Evans hasn't made a single WSM final. Why are they inviting him??
ESM is weak AF.
Rogue is falling flatter every year, and Brian's Shaw Classic and SMOE competition is surging forward as a premier major pro show. Bad invites, probably boring or untested events, and money is the only reason to even go, and SMOE is gaining a lot of financial traction. It also shows invitational shows are outdated. We need semi-functional qualifiers and qualifications for these shows (including ASC).
Well said.
Mateusz always said that he is preparing for Rogue Invitational and that it will be his first show back, even he himself was commenting on posts that be is surprised for not being invited!
We are surprised too
@@LalasBrothers i'm afraid this is political, he wanted to participate in a contest in russia at the beginning of the year
You guys aren't talking about Kordiyaka nearly enough. He's certainly worthy of an invite as well.
Seconded - after his performance at SC, seems like a huge miss.
Yeah, this is my biggest gripe. Mateusz and Trey are both very good, but are coming back from major injuries. Even though it will have been a year for Trey, that's something that may never feel the same again. Same injury for Mateusz. There's no way that Tom Evans, no offense to Tom, is better and more deserving than Kordiyaka. Former European champion, 2x finalist at WSM, 3rd recently at the GL Strongman Classic. Major oversight by Rogue I feel
I like Thomas Evans, but Kordiyaka and maybe even Aivars Smaukstelis have both done more in 2024 to warrant an invite ahead of him. If they finish ahead of him at SMOE then they have a lot of right to be pissed off
@@aaronononAivars is one of the most decorated strongmen of all time. Insane that he’s never been invited to Arnold or rogue
Could it be too pricey to get insurance for trey? Rogue would’ve paid for his surgery & care last year. Which they’ll have claimed on insurance. . Could insurance for the same athlete the very next year be cost prohibitive?
Seems like a stretch as far as theories go but can’t think of any reason he’s not there, unless he didn’t want to be.
Most convincing explanation
If insurance was an issue no contests would take place. The very nature of strongman is that its dangerous. People get injured all the time. Tho to be fair in Treys case it was Rogues badly designed equipment that injured Trey
@@robertmills6497That's my biggest Issue with the invitational. It's too much focus on big show pieces of kit. I think it separates the athlete from the weight visually. Like the Tower of Power. You wanna see the weights on the bar and and it changes the nature of the lift too much for a bit of spectacle that adds nothing to the excitement.
@@robertmills6497 I agree. That’s why I emphasised Treys specific circumstances in relation to this particular comp. Which insurance of all types tends to consider. Specifics. History. Etc.
Again though, it’s just a loose theory looking for an answer to his absence.
@@misterc5783 when i was competing, all of us had to sign a waiver form, so if you get injured it's your problem to deal with. I think it's still the case with WSM and Arnold Classic and i doubt that Rogue is doing it differently and taking responsibility for every athlete that gets injured in their competition.
I'm not happy with all the choices either but we can't have "he could win it" as a requirement. Then we'd have 4 athlete comps
In a way I agree. I don't think Trey can win the show (but I also accept, that a surprise upset can happen anytime to any show). Like it's self defeating argument to in one breath claim that Trey should be in and Evans should not be in, cause he doesn't have a chance to actually win. Cause if the main point of the argument is to only invite those, who have a chance to win (based on past record), then it would cut down on a lot of potential competitors who are currently on the rise or might surprise us with a comeback after a time period of not living up to their potential.
Sprawa jest czytelna - lineup jest sam w sobie odpowiedzią. Ponieważ zawody odbywają się w Szkocji, więc o zwycięstwo będą walczyć Hooper i T. Stoltman. Reszta zawodników to tylko tło. Jedynym zawodnikiem, który na serio mógłby im przeszkodzić - jest Mateusz. Z kolei Trey Mitchell ma za dobry martwy ciąg, więc mógłby zabrać im za dużo punktów.
Regarding Trey, he recently said in his interview with Brian Shaw that he's hoping for top 10 in SMOE. Granted, he'd have a few more months to recover before Rogue, but he probably won't be at peak strength by then. I wanna see the top ten guys AT THE TIME compete. I think that doesn't include Luke or Oleksii, unless they can get better very quickly.
I really believe Rogue needs to have some kind of ranking structure to choose the best strongman to date. It's not fair for the actual top 10 athletes in the world get passed up to a lower but more popular athlete.
@@ladsgomez5954 any system that would annually and objectively rank strongmen would not have Mateus or Trey in the current top 10 based on recent results and injuries
You guys get to the main point and have good back and forth
Thank you 😊
Agree with you guys.
Imo either Rogue needs to expand the field or make a better effort to truly get the 10 best/healthiest guys in the world.
Even 6 months ago, Trey is MUCH better than at least 3 of these guys lmao
Based on what? He's competed one time since his injury and that was wsm where he didn't make it out of his group. I absolutely believe he can get back to the top, but imo he needs to prove it before you can claim that he's way better than guys that have been recently winning comps
That Canadian guy keeps getting invited to stuff because of the Magnus Classic. Because unlike Giants Live, Magnus knows that a show is only prestigious if its 2-day. And the Magnus Classic is actually a 3-day show if you can believe that.
Great points Lalas. Shame on Rogue if they didn't extend an invite. (Which it looks like they didn't.)
I don't think that they will extend athletes list.
I agree, waaay too early to announce the athletes. SMOE will probably cause major changes to that lineup due to injuries, unfortunately. The other competitions could too, to a lesser extent. It would be nice to know the Rogue events now. That would drive plenty of fan discussion about which events best suit certain athletes and build anticipation well in advance (unless the events suck of course).
Yes, it would be nice to know the Rogue events.
Not inviting Mateusz should be a crime! He got 3rd at last years Rogue and 2nd at the Arnold’s. Injury or not he would not have come last.
Yep
Are you gentlemen okay, I’ve been looking forward to your coverage of the Shaw Classic.
Great breakdown! 💪🏻
I don’t hate any of the invites. 10 spots just isn’t enough any more. Too many guys in second tier and too little to differentiate them.
Luke almost certainly got an invite because he is Scottish AND Tom's brother (that whole world's strongest brothers angle) The event is in Scotland so they are guaranteed to put bums on seats and sell a lot of merch. It helps that luke is reigning ESM. And Luke obviously feels he will be ready for the show. We have seen videos of him getting scans and treatment. He wouldn't be showing that if it wasn't positive news
Luke won ESM, podiumed at the Arnolds before Tom ever did and hasn't missed a WSM final in several years. He's deserving of the invite regardless of being Tom's brother
@@cisrael468apart from the Arnold’s 2.5 years ago (very long time ago, before hooper existed even) luke has only really performed at some of the shows that his best friend Collin Bryce organized
@@cisrael468 he gets preferential treatment at wsm tbh that was evident this year
@@neal520 what preferential treatment did Luke get?
@@cisrael468 easy group
What do you expect? It’s Rogue. They have their heads up their rears with crossfit.
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Coming back to this video 4 weeks later. Absolute travesty that Trey didn’t get an invite. 4th at SMOE and a fan favorite absolutely deserves an invite.
After Shaw classic they definitely need to invite Trey Mitchell and Lucas Hatton
Think Tom Evans should be swapped out for kordiyaka/ kieliskowski
Awesome content as always guys strong 💪
@@MrNice__420 thank you 😊
I miss seeing those guys but I do like that the sports moving more towards inviting the MOST current top guys. Hoath and Ragg have been top 5 this year so deserve a spot now, better than making them wait 2 years. Is that fair?
I am 100% agree with you guys your YT channel is the most honest opinion ever 👍 thank so much
Thank you, it means a lot to us 🙏
I agree that they rushed and announced the athletes too soon. There are many major shows between now and then, and a lot can change in that time. Plus, as a podium finisher, Mateusz definitely deserved to be invited. Unless he told them he can't, his absence is insulting.
Licis is hinting in his new vlogs that he'll compete at rogue. Maybe they'll surprise us with 12 man lineup with licis and mateuz
We need to check that out, thanks.
Why not 16 man line up like shaw there are to many top guys to just do 10
Yeah should be least 12 men
Needs at minimum 12. Lucas Hatton also, kordiyaka, licis, ivars... just too many guys for a 10 man comp!
Don't get my hopes up about that. Mateusz should be there for sure and he's looking good.
If Hooper wins another show Im gonna puke
Boo hoo
@@PolishPowerSawich Name Checks Out
Obviously it’s not only about achievements when it comes to choosing athletes for big events, those who showed themselves unreliable one way or another are not preferred in terms of organization
Oleski novikov is living in a war and if it's anything like what others are experiencing with air sirens throughout the night and electricity shortages etc . Plus he trained as a home guard in the reserves so that's a lot to deal with ontop of the life in strongman, diet , training and family life !. Could add to his form dropping a bit ??, bicep recovery also.
Personally, i would have liked to see Handsome Pav & Lucas Hatton in place of Tom Evans & Luke Stoltman... maybe I'll bite my tongue when Trey does something crazy at SMOE
I'd sub Evan S out for Trey tbf
Just watched a Svend Karlsen documentary on RUclips. He was even greater than I remember. He was a prototype strongman. Tough and determined. He retired happy with his accomplishments of which there were many.
Svend is an awesome guy.
I don't think it's too early to announce the athletes if they are happy and certain of their choices. I definitely think Mateusz should have gotten an invite though (are we certain he did not?) and if he doesn't think he will be ready by the time of the show he should turn it down and let someone else have the spot.
With Trey I am a bit more undecided. I don't know if his poor showing at WSM hurt him in this regard, even though it is clear he was still recovering from his injury. I think it's hard to say right now what shape he is in and if he belongs in the Rogue line-up. His performance at SMOE will tell the tale.
I don't think the events need to be announced before the athletes or even well in advance of the competition.
As usual great episode.
Thank you 😊
kieliszkowski is healing from his leg injury obviously. gotta give him time thats all. i doubt he even wants to get back into it rn since it would be really stupid to do so. he wised up after all those issues he had in the last years
Hoath was 2pts off the podium at the Royal Albert Hall. How many incredible performances does he need before you acknowledge how good he is? He's beaten a lot of these guys already, but still you single him out as someone who shouldn't have been invited? Is not because he's Canadian. It's because he's strong. He'll do well even in that lineup.
Showing picture of Mitch while talking about Mateusz xd
It is an invetational, so they invite who they want. 🤷♂️
Hooper, Hathor, Tom Stolton - will be the 3 winners
Sam Sulek he never competed in his life. body building fan love him
So interesting...he has no credentials to back his claims and promotes a very unhealthy style of life.
Character > accomplishments i guess
You remember the first rogue invite he was a tester that's bs because he's better than 4 of the guys going and he has won 2 shaw classics in a row
Yep, we remember that.
Luke is doing an extreme recovery program beyond anything he’s ever afforded himself before.
Hopefully it will work.
Martinis was amazing when he won the Rogue as his comeback event.
Yep, he was amazing.
Could be financial for Trey? I'm not sure if Rogue covers some of the travel expenses or if that comes out of there pocket. Travelling for 12hrs on a plane can be brutal for someone his size. he would have to either buy a double seat or upgrade to 1st class and that ain't cheap.
@@XxhuecoxX no, Rogue buys the tickets to all the athletes, the same as WSM, Shaw Classic, Arnold Classic and Giants Live cover all the travelling expenses too.
What has Novikov achieved in the last 12 months to deserve to be there?
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Novikov is not the same and hasn’t podiumed in forever. Let others take his spot
Unfortunately you are correct.
Politics, man. But at least Khordiaka would have been as a better choice
Do we know whether Trey and Mateusz actually didn’t get invited?
I’m ok with the line up to be fair as it’s an invitational. A little bit of a mix up with some athletes is ok for me otherwise it would be the same top 10 each time in each of these comps
Big important point there. Is the source simply the announcement? That doesn't tell us anything. Mateusz could have turned it down because of the fairly recent injury. Trey is focused on SMOE, and isn't back to his best yet. That's pretty reasonable.
Or Visas could have been an issue.
@@JoshuaOdionsonhighly unlikely it’s that heading into the UK from Poland or USA
The line up is what most fan's wanted. Do your time social media an get a invite. This guy that keeps coming over my feed. He's big an never held title a nice guy but his fan's think he's on the top in body building.
Do we know for certain that Trey didn't get an invite? Or did he potentially decline an invite...?
In the end, invitational means they invite at their choice, whatever 😂
Yea i was going to be going to watch it as its just up the road from me but im not spending over £200pp on a noise bleed tickets fuk that😳
Holy shit, 200 pounds for a ticket is a bit steap to say the least 😳
@@LalasBrothers aye there is alot more expensive ones aswell. Seen £4000 in there as well for ring side group sections😳
Will you be at the Rogue Invitational this year?
I will be, Vytautas is on the fence
Hope to meet you
For me how does Tom Evans get an invite over Pavlo, Trey and Mateauz its like they wanted to take another american so they dont have to give another european chance
Lalas, can you please tell them to have a Max Deadlift as event 1 for Hafthor to get it done and to increase the number of athletes to 12?
If they will listen to Thor, they will have max deadlift.
Luke is getting invited because of Tom and it's also in Scotland so that's putting butt's in seats it's all about 💰
Yep
Hardly... 2xESM, ESM is hardly an easy walk over show... he also did well at worlds considering he went in with a partial Bicep tear.
But you're right, the Stoltmans are the most popular people in strongman bar Thor obviously, they are well known across the UK and around the world with fans of strength sports. They are also really nice hard working lads, Lukes been in the game for years at the top level.
It's held in Aberdeen, Scotland which isn't too far from their home, the event will be packed because of them 2 lads and Thors, mitch is also growing a lot with his social media growth and work.
I'd much rather watch Mateusz than Luke compete, and I think most people feel the same.
@BroCactus that's understandable but again, Luke isn't some noobie... and is 2xESM so hardly a chump, he's been top 15 for years now and placed well at worlds considering he competed badly injured. Also, Luke and Tom have built their socials and bring viewers... you need to use your success in comps and build yourself which he has. The stoltmans bring the most fans bar thor to events, it's that simple. They are promoting strongman to many many people and grind.
It's way two early
What a bullshit Matheusz and Trey didn t get an invite...
The Rogue strong crossfire comp anyhow
It's months away and the next comp is the strongest man on earth show which will injure 1 at least. But pavlo kordiyaka should be invited before mateuz coming back from injury ? . But that 10 will change before November
Yes, most likely 10 athletes will change before November.
Where are you getting the info that mateus has not been invited? If hes healthy im sure he'll be there.
Rogue already announced ALL the athletes for women and men competition.
Well said bros
Thank you 😊
I honestly think the field is so wide now that the Rogue and Arnold's need to be at least 12 athletes. Enough with the 10 athlete lineups. Even Giants has started doing bigger lineups.
I also don't know why Mateusz wouldn't be invited considering he placed second at the Arnold's and the Rogue. Trey should, just morally, be getting an invite.
Agree, 12 would be better.
What about Hatton?
Sad news :(
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Mateusz got a Achilles tear while he was training for Europe's ,he is still recovering from major surgery lol so I don't think he will be a backup
He was planning to compete in Rogue as his first competition after the injury.
Mateusz almost certainly told them he wouldn’t be ready to compete. There’s no other explanation there. Trey is truly a mystery though. Maybe he doesn’t trust them to make safe events anymore lol
He himself has mentioned many times before that he wants to return to 'rogue'. He is already training normally, and there is still plenty of time until the competition.. Judging by the answers he gives to people's questions (instagram), it looks more like they simply didn't invite him.
@@Revelation9999 I see that he’s training well and only found one shrug emoji to someone’s question about the invite. Maybe you’re right, and they simply didn’t invite him, but it’s not enough to convince me because it just doesn’t make any logical sense. He was 3rd at the Rogue last year and 2nd at the Arnold the past 2 years in a row. It makes no sense that they would invite some of these people over him unless he told them he wasn’t ready or wouldn’t be able to compete for some other reason, or if there’s some new drama between him and Rogue that we don’t yet know about.
@@matthewcincotta62 Rogue is a joke m8. Not sure why you would think they would deal with Mateusz fairly.
I think the line up will change ,
Possibly, specially knowing that we have Shaw Classic coming up.
Trey was nowhere near back to form at Worlds this year and is only aiming to make the top 10 or so at Shaw classic so he's definitely not a surprise. Mateus may say he's good to go, but again he was terrible at Worlds last year and has had constant injuries for the last half a decade so he's a risky invite. After the dumpster fire that came from the "perfect" lineup at this year's Arnolds I can see why Rogue wants to stick to guys who have been recently competing and doing well rather than big names. If anyone clearly deserves to be invited it would be Lukas Hatton, Pavlo K, and Maxime B. I'm more surprised Tom Evans is invited than I am about Mateus, Trey, and Martins not being there
No martins 😢
Don't they choose the top active guys to go?
If Trey beats loads of athletes who were invited, would you say that Rogue announced the list of the athletes to early?
very unfair for Trey and Mateusz
None of the sports nowdays are about fairness😑😑😑
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With all respect to the athletes, this shouldn’t be a “comeback” show. That would be giants live that should be for injuries athletes coming back
Then by luke also doesn't deserve an invite
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As a fan i hope Trey gets at least 3rd.
Hopefully 🤞
@@LalasBrothers Dam Trey almost had that third spot! His grip doesnt even allow him to get any points on certain events and his last event also was a nail biter. Still Im happy to see him surpass his own expectations. Congrats to everyone finishing the comp!
How is Luke getting invite and mateusz isn't 😂😂😂 luke is definitely not a contender 😂
The Rogue invitational is turning into a joke at this point.
The Rogue Invitational has always been a bit underwhelming to me. Not enough competitors and not enough events. Plus, the strongman show always plays second fiddle to the crossfit show.
Mateusz yes. Luke no.
How much of this is due to guys not wanting to travel to Scotland in November? Do we know for sure that Trey didn’t turn down an invitation?
@@thejsixm2357 turn down invitation to the competition with the biggest prise money, because you couldn't be arsed to travel 🤔 yeah, that's not it.
Trey and mateusz should have definitely be invited. So should pavlo kordiaka
If they’re only going to have 10 people then they need the 10 best, in shape guys and I’m sorry but Tom evans and Luke don’t come into that
Injured guys 🤷♂️
We should invite purely on merit and strength...not because someone is the brother of another and may bring more views.
Shame on rogue. Shaw and Arnold classic seem to be the only good shows now
I agree with you 100%, it should be always on merit and strength.
No offence to these guys, but Singleton is not as strong as Mateusz, or as accomplished, neither is thomas or tristian or NVNK...bad call from a Rouge.
Yep
Not as accomplished, that is true, I don't know how you could say he is not as strong. Evan will likely do a high 900s deadlift at the Shaw Classic, Mateusz can't do that even as a partial deadlift. They got similar other lifts.
The best question is we all watched that Oscar guy who couldn't lift *anything* at the Arnold Classic, are any of the athletes completely not ready for a big show like he was?
I was wondering about it myself, he did very poorly in Arnold Classic.
I don't agree with Thor being invited. He hasn't even competed in an strongman events is such a long time. I think that he is just being invited because of who he is and to me, that is disappointing. He should have had to put in the work for an invite
Put the work in? What 15 years in the game, 10 Icelands strongest man, 8 ESM, WSM winner with 7 straight podiums with the damn likes of Big z and Brian Shaw who are the two GOATs of strongman... he also competed this year and still did well considering he wasn't peaked at all and coming back from a bad bad injury.
He got 4th at Arnold Strongman Classic and 2nd at the Arnold UK this year. He's competing at SMOE before Rogue and is very likely to place highly. He definitely deserves an invite just on performance imo
Frankly you shouldnt comment ont something you know nothing about. Your comment makes literally no sense .... The F do you even mean he didnt competed in a while ?
I think you guys are being a little hard on Tom Evans. He could win any show and nobody would be surprised. He is top tier in both static strength and speed.
Over the likes of Mitch, Thor, Tom and the rest? Actually I would be extremely surprised.
@LisaLiddy Evans has beat Tom a couple times before. If you don't invite people based on whether or not they can beat Hooper nobody would get invited. Except he will eventually start losing and Evans is for sure a guy that can start winning. He is capable of top 3 in basically any event in any contest he just hasn't been able to keep it together in a while.
This might be an unpopular opinion as I think Mateusz is a top calibre strongman... But we have to be realistic and ask, when was the last time he genuinely completed consistently? Could you genuinely say Mateusz based on the last 3 years deserves a place in the Rogue lineup? The answer is quite simply no. If Like is injured he shouldn't be there either. Trey, might be ready, he might not. He's more deserving of a spot than Mateusz. He's been competing consistently for years and winning competitions.
I’m sick of Luke stoltman knocking better strongman out of competitions, just because his brother is top 3 in the world, Luke does not belong in this event
I respect Thor but his time has passed in strongman, he needs to step down & give the younger guys their due diligence, same for Luke Stoltman. 2:05 Mateusz’s deadlift isn’t poor at all, it’s just lower than most competitors, we’ve reached a point where the top 0.00001% of lifters like Mateusz get called weak by people who lift far less.
Let's first see how he will perform at SMOE.
Thor timr has passed 😂 okay noy alright lets see in some weeks
@@amangulia4916 Laugh all you like troll, he's already done what he's done & has nothing more to prove so instead of coming back to compete he should step aside & give the younger up & coming guys their due. Nice try troll.
@@janoycresva276 these are not olympic games like one country can send only one athlete or he is not stooping anypne to compete dumbo stop this non sense he us in his nid thirties at his peak strength why should he retire?
I definitely don't think Thor is past it from what we're seeing.
It’s an invitational event. They chose these athletes for a reason. I appreciate this video because your voice in this space is important and relevant.
At the end of the day last year’s event was not up to par. IMO This competition is not ready for prime time. Events and Participants are sus.
I will continue to use SMOE/Shaw Classic, Arnold’s, as gold standards with North America’s Strongest Man and Magnus Classic as barometers. I’m not a fan of Giants or WSM aka Darin and Collin.
Brian Shaw, JF Caron, and Magnus events are more my speed.
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Thomas evens will do better then luke stoltman
Thomas Evans is more deserving of an invite than Novikov.