23:21 - I also didn't even realize you played the whole thing until you mentioned it! Thank you for the wonderful analysis and all your videos! I can't wait for Op. 25 No. 11 :)
This was probably my favorite etude to learn. It was a pain, and I spent many hours just to get the trills right, but the reward at the recapitulation was so great. Unlike Brahms, Chopin rewards your efforts.
This is such an awesome and complete presentation of this etude! Very entertaining, inspirational and thorough. Perfect especially for pianists who want to learn this etude.
It always amazes me how Chopin composed this. Never before had such technique been required. How could Chopin acquire this technique without himself going through the many years all us pianists take in learning how to do rapid third trills. He had the vision surely when starting to know this was possible. For me, if I hadn’t heard others play this piece I would have just assumed it was physically impossible!
Thank you for your comment. It's not 100% true. Chopin didn't invent the double thirds technique. There were hundreds of Etudes/excercises for double thirds before him. But not that poetic, not that beautiful!
@@gregniemczuk hi thanks for the reply, it means a lot! I’m aware of thirds technique before Chopin. I was specifically talking about the trills at the start of the etude where you use a fingering like 1/3-2/4 or 1/3-2/5. Was the technique anywhere used before? I know for example in beethovens 4th Concerto there are a lot of double trills but the fingering is the much easier 2/4-1/5. If you have any examples please do let me know!
This is one of the most beautiful of the etudes. It is amongst the most difficult of the etudes due to trilling and chromatically executing rapid thirds. You make it look effortless as it should be once one has mastered the piece.
This video made me feel better about how frustrating No 2 has been for me. I'm watching all of this series and I have the deepest respect for your opinions on these masterpieces. The surprise performance at the end of this video was extremely stupendous.
My teacher always tells me that I should be very careful when practicing double thirds, because here the risk of injury is the highest. Therefore, I will wait a little longer to start with this etude, even though I like it very much. You mentioned the point when you practice something for a long time and you almost don't believe that you will ever learn it. Then suddenly on another day you can play it much better or perfectly. This moments are one of the biggest rewards learning to play piano. Another benefit ist that you can play double thirds probably in any other piece without big problems :-) I can imagine that the recording of this etude took a lot of time and practice. Thank you very much for great analysis!!! 💖
Wonderful !!! If I live up to my 80s I may try this one although it frightens me so !!! I'm so thankful for the many pianists who are so accomplished as they inspire a little pianist such as I am.
My Mother was a concert pianista and i always heard this every morning , maybe she used as special technique, her name was Nibya Mariño,. She passed away 1st September 2014 here in Uruguay , Montevideo URUGUAY
thanks Greg. I quite want to try this one - because i have such difficulty with the Schubert e flat major klavierstuck (no. 2)... do you think it will be helpful?. many thanks!
I've learnt a lot. The problem after watching your videos is that I can't find good local teachers who are enoughly convincing and I have to fire them after 2 lessons or not even hire them lol
I'm enjoying a lot your series about the etudes. Here it's also a relief to know that this etude is also extremely difficult for professional pianists. I realized a long time ago that my level is too low to learn op25 n6, but kept the right hand of the first 6 bars as an exercise (played slowlier) from time to time. Maybe in the future. I look forward to your tutorials.
I've recently been obsessed with Chopin's etudes (again) and today this was my first ever Chopin etude to play by heart. Definitely not the easiest, but as you said: so much fun!
@@gregniemczuk it just suddenly became easy yesterday... outta nowhere! (OK I'd say the thing that got my brain plasticity altered enough but it's probably not appropriate here). So happy 😊 been annoying my roommate quite a bit playing those two 3rds so much lol
23:21 - I also didn't even realize you played the whole thing until you mentioned it! Thank you for the wonderful analysis and all your videos! I can't wait for Op. 25 No. 11 :)
You always win the battle with any piece of Chopins compositions 👍👋👋👋
Thank you very much for this analysis. Well done.
This was probably my favorite etude to learn. It was a pain, and I spent many hours just to get the trills right, but the reward at the recapitulation was so great. Unlike Brahms, Chopin rewards your efforts.
It's so true!!!!
You played the whole thing! And you apologised?! 😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you so much for showing us this beautiful étude, and congratulations on learning it!!
Hahahaha, thank you so much!!!! 😀😀😀😀
Imagine playing this, then Op.25 no.8, then the Schumann Toccata in the same recital. That would be crazy.
Insane!!!!!
Been waiting for this one!
This is such an awesome and complete presentation of this etude! Very entertaining, inspirational and thorough. Perfect especially for pianists who want to learn this etude.
Thank you very much!
It always amazes me how Chopin composed this. Never before had such technique been required. How could Chopin acquire this technique without himself going through the many years all us pianists take in learning how to do rapid third trills. He had the vision surely when starting to know this was possible. For me, if I hadn’t heard others play this piece I would have just assumed it was physically impossible!
Thank you for your comment. It's not 100% true. Chopin didn't invent the double thirds technique. There were hundreds of Etudes/excercises for double thirds before him. But not that poetic, not that beautiful!
@@gregniemczuk hi thanks for the reply, it means a lot! I’m aware of thirds technique before Chopin. I was specifically talking about the trills at the start of the etude where you use a fingering like 1/3-2/4 or 1/3-2/5. Was the technique anywhere used before? I know for example in beethovens 4th Concerto there are a lot of double trills but the fingering is the much easier 2/4-1/5. If you have any examples please do let me know!
Brilliant. I love this studio. Best regards from Argentina, Buenos Aires.
This is one of the most beautiful of the etudes. It is amongst the most difficult of the etudes due to trilling and chromatically executing rapid thirds. You make it look effortless as it should be once one has mastered the piece.
I love your analises, thank you for tonight 👋👋👌❤️
Thank you!!!
Haha. Love your humorous honesty about how long it takes to integrate this technique into your brain.
This video made me feel better about how frustrating No 2 has been for me. I'm watching all of this series and I have the deepest respect for your opinions on these masterpieces. The surprise performance at the end of this video was extremely stupendous.
Thanks !!!
My teacher always tells me that I should be very careful when practicing double thirds, because here the risk of injury is the highest. Therefore, I will wait a little longer to start with this etude, even though I like it very much. You mentioned the point when you practice something for a long time and you almost don't believe that you will ever learn it. Then suddenly on another day you can play it much better or perfectly. This moments are one of the biggest rewards learning to play piano. Another benefit ist that you can play double thirds probably in any other piece without big problems :-)
I can imagine that the recording of this etude took a lot of time and practice. Thank you very much for great analysis!!! 💖
Wonderful !!! If I live up to my 80s I may try this one although it frightens me so !!!
I'm so thankful for the many pianists who are so accomplished as they inspire a little pianist such as I am.
My Mother was a concert pianista and i always heard this every morning , maybe she used as special technique, her name was Nibya Mariño,. She passed away 1st September 2014 here in Uruguay , Montevideo URUGUAY
Ahh, muchísimas gracias por tu comentario. Me imagino que esta música debe ser muy especial para ti. Saludos desde Polonia!
Interesting thoughts
Part D is my favorite too 😊
thanks Greg. I quite want to try this one - because i have such difficulty with the Schubert e flat major klavierstuck (no. 2)... do you think it will be helpful?. many thanks!
Definitely!!! It will be very helpful!
6 months only??? You are my hero y !!!🔥🔥🔥💖
Yes....
I agree with you. And the a-minor chromatic etude.
Rondo?? Yessss - now I am pleased with myself! Lovely performance in 2015 with those bass and tenor voices - what did you do to upset the jury??
I had a teacher from New York City....
So Polish judges didn't like it I guess.....
Thank you!
I've learnt a lot. The problem after watching your videos is that I can't find good local teachers who are enoughly convincing and I have to fire them after 2 lessons or not even hire them lol
LOL! Let's try the online work.
gnpiano@aol.com
I'm enjoying a lot your series about the etudes. Here it's also a relief to know that this etude is also extremely difficult for professional pianists. I realized a long time ago that my level is too low to learn op25 n6, but kept the right hand of the first 6 bars as an exercise (played slowlier) from time to time. Maybe in the future.
I look forward to your tutorials.
Thank you!
6:32 Again you should show your audience the score. A good idea, yes? 😊
Yes! Sorry!
Moszkowski wrote the School of Double Notes opus 64, book 4 Advanced studies study 2 I plan to study after this one.
this etude must be called "Nightmare" like Greg says. Cramer etude 47/60 before op25/6 might helps
Yea, it's really hard.
Welcome! 😃😃
Today we're talking about this nightmare!😃😃
Hahahaha
Hahahahahha
I've recently been obsessed with Chopin's etudes (again) and today this was my first ever Chopin etude to play by heart. Definitely not the easiest, but as you said: so much fun!
@@zebulonspruijt1645 bravo!
I find the first measure to be the hardest lol
When you have more than just those 2 notes it feels more like crawling over the keys vs just the 2
All depends on the fingering. You have to find the one which works for you!
@@gregniemczuk it just suddenly became easy yesterday... outta nowhere! (OK I'd say the thing that got my brain plasticity altered enough but it's probably not appropriate here). So happy 😊 been annoying my roommate quite a bit playing those two 3rds so much lol
@@elliott614 I'm so happy to hear that!!!!!
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Lol .....then you have a breakdown......welcome to my world 😢😢😢😢
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