Fixing D&D Dragons (by making them Sorcerers)
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2024
- Dragons are THE Dungeons and Dragons monster, but what happens when you combine them with the Sorcerer class? Let's make a Sorcerer Dragon and find out!
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Happy New Year!!! Back and better than ever baby! (Dragon Stat Block Coming Soon Please Don't Be Mean Christmas Is Hard 👼)
dude i love this new series!
You warn us when it come out right?
A Cooking chicken dragon would be cool.
this series was unexpected....i support the series, continue on good sir
Yo any chance of subtitles on your video? I enjoy them but can't watch this one and can imagine there are other folks in the same boat.
Pointy Hat is doing dragon stuff now.
Are we sure this isn't a mimic taking over our favorite hat
How sure are you???
He just doesn't like how DND dragons are just flying Godzillas
@@viniciuscarvalho5592Even though he's barely reading into Dragon societies. Definitely more than just flying godzillas. I'd recommend looking at a lot of Dungeon Dad's dragon videos.
.... Roll a d20 for a perception check... (I think that's right. I'm not a DM, just a player.)
@@ZanTeth55 I kid you not I rolled a natural 20!
Who needs a draconic bloodline sorceror, when you can have a sorcerors bloodline dragon!
Thats a great idea!
Yes indeed
Could even be a justification for a Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer.
Maybe the Sorcerer was a villager taken by the dragon's family and after escaping with his life, the trauma and/or terror of the experience made them develop powers?
Could even be a justification for a Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer.
Maybe the Sorcerer was a villager taken by the dragon's family and after escaping with his life, the trauma and/or terror of the experience made them develop powers?
@@philparis796 certainly. As he says, that’s why he’s went this direction with it. The problem it seems to create though is that the dragon apparently *moderates* those powers-able to turn them off at a whim?
If the dragon actively bestows them like a power plant instead of *causing* them via a one-time change (like a radioactive spider bite), doesn’t that change the way bloodline sorcerers work throughout the world? Doesn’t it also control your decisions related to the mafia dragon? I’ve never played warlock, but how could you ever go against your dragon/power source without LOSING YOUR CLASS? Dragons boss wants you to do something unethical, but you still want to be a sorcerer… Doesn’t seem like much of a choice!
In general, I like this idea a lot, but I think I’d need to answer these questions before considering it done.
A power that can be taken away seems more warlock or cleric-ish, Sorcery's flavor is that the power is inherent to the user themselves, either through heritage or through being changed by some by a major magical exposure event. This episode's new dragon seems more like a warlock patron with the way you describe it and it's relation to it's horde members.
I interpreted as the dragon themselves is sorcerer-flavored while their innate nature as an arcane battery basically makes their minions warlocks. Fits the fantasy of sorcerers being walking magic that can be used/drained to power others
Yep, I thought the same. If the magical power is given or taken at will, it's practically a magic contract.
i did propose a dinasty of sorcerers presided by an adoption happy lizard asking why they don't have great grandchildren yet, but pointy do haves a point (badum tss) that halready used that bloodline angle in the hierarch video
i do ask myself how the warlock dragon wil opperate to be distinct@@thefallendeathlord7690
Technically a Warlock pact is a mix between A Wizard and A Cleric. In the players handbook the Relationship between a Warlock and their patron as something more akin to a student mentor relationship.
Additionally the difference between A Warlock and a Cleric is The magic they use.
A Cleric is a Divine Caster
A warlock is an Arcane caster
Divine Casters use magic that is Given to them, hence why they can Change their spell list after a long rest
And arcane casters are people who LEARN their magic hence why it takes leveling up to change spells.
A God can Take away both your Cleric spells and your cleric features features
A warlock patron can take away your warlock features but not your warlock spells or Invocations.
(Spells because you had to LEARN those spells by them teaching you,
Invocations for the same reason. invocations are described as you studying Occult lore)
I’m genuinely more excited about a Monk dragon than I have been for many large personal triumphs in my life
What animal theme/motif do you think it should have?
@@MyRYNOrunsHot Lemon Shark. They’re known for being one of the more social sharks, and have a reputation for attacking in a way that stuns but doesn’t kill things it doesn’t intend to eat. Their faces also just look contemplative and thoughtful
Interesting - I thought of Shark as a fit for Ranger, but this is also a cool idea.@@Veelofar
@@MyRYNOrunsHot shark could also be good ranger material, but I think Wolf would fit ranger better
Also valid - I think Pointyhat is using Wolf for either Fighter or Barbarian. @@Veelofar
It’s gone from “never doing a video on dragons!!!” To two dragon videos in a row. All Nine Hells and each layer of the Abyss must have frozen over this Christmas!
It was only time. You cant avoid the second half of dnd. He did it in a way he woukd like, though, so Im good if hes good.
We’re all waking up to ash and dust because Pointy Hat is imagining dragons now
I mean aren’t the last couple layers of hell already frozen over anyway
I mean aren’t the last couple layers of hell already frozen over anyway
Admittedly, he's only doing this because his last dragon video has so many views, so he's just appealing to the algorithm to stay relevant. We should watch more of his other stuff to avoid stagnation and not suffer burnout.
TWO CLASS BASED MONSTER SERIES INTERCHANGING EVERY TWO MONTHS??? THIS IS AMAZING
Your pfp leaves me disturbed.
@@Bruh-zu9dm Good.
@@toetruck1589 It needs to brush its teeth....
@@toetruck1589brush yo damn teeth
Green dragons aren't the only ones that take care of their kids. Blue dragons are really familial, even though they don't tend to work together (they tend to spread out, deserts are big). Purple dragons especially, they stick together like sovereign glue.
Right, I was confused when he said that green dragons are the only ones that care about family because of the blue dragons. Blue dragons are so much about family that half the plot hooks for them in Fizban’s revolve around their families. Honestly, it’s such a big part of them that a blue dragon mafia family type thing works so well.
"tHeRe ArE tOo MaNy DrAgOns!!! (angry hat noises)"
*proceeds to make another dragon*
I am so glad that we can potentially get a warden dragon for each class. I loved the original dragon video and I hope this does just as well.
As a wise dragon lady once said: "There is no war so hateful to the gods as a war between kin , and no war so bloody as a war between dragons."
Fizbans actually did add alot of Lore, Recommended spells, goals, characteristics, and ways to customize Dragons including additional lair actions and Regional effects. I do Recommend Fizbans if your looking to make a series about new Dragons
The fact that Pointy Hat hates dragons but has decided to do a whole SERIES on dragons feels like either irony, character development, or the greatest practical joke of all time.
But no matter which it is, it’s such a power move. And I will never complain because Warden Dragons are so freaking cool of a concept.
The concept of Warden Dragons is awesome. I really hope he writes a campaign setting based on it
Maybe the Paladin dragon could be Eagle themed?
For Rogue, I’d say either corvid, or snake themed.
Corvid might make a good alternative motif for archon dragons, actually. Crows have very strong family bonds.
Is rouge a new class in OneDnD?
@@sharondornhoff7563 I know right? If you fuck with a corvid, they will teach their friends and their own children who you are so they can gang up on you.
@@HallowedKeeper_ I meant to say “Rogue”. It’s fixed now.
The only issue with the eagle theme is it's very American, which is fine in and of itself except paladins are very medieval themed beings and America didn't exist until the late 1700s. Way too late. I think eagle is a good choice but slightly less fitting than a unicorn or a bull.
You could have made the Archon Dragons a Ram. They live in large groups, have horns just like the Archon Dragon and females are even called Nannys
Was wondering if anyone was gonna bring this up, lmao
Full support. Rams are cool they need more draconic representation
That's what I thought is was until the reveal.
@@disgruntledbob2812 Plus it should be easy to form a dragon head to resemble a goat.
Both have horns and long snouts. Though I could see a running joke where, due to their boxy eyes, the dragon always looks like it’s distracted even when it’s paying attention to you 🤣
@@stingerjohnny9951 knowing how goat eyes work, it’s safe to say that they would see you and your hijinks from a mile away. Goats can see basically anything in a radius around their heads, they’d see your goofy ass trying to pull pranks on the other orphans even if you’re right behind them.
There's something with the Warden Dragons that doesn't feel right... If every Warden Dragon can make only one prince and then dies, doesn't that means there's an static number of them? Even more, if someone kills a warden dragon and they can't make a new prince in time, then there's one less warden dragon in the world.
Ah yes a creature being finite is a darn shame... Extinction is a real frightening prospect hmm........
@@aydenmcfly1362every creature is an island
That could be a feature rather than a bug. Maybe there’s only one kind of Warden Dragon for each class in the world or otherwise a finite number of them.
That lends them rarity and a sense of awe, as well as urgency. Like the “if you’re killed in the Avatar state, than the reincarnation cycle will be broken, and the Avatar will cease to exist.”
So the Warden Dragons have a desperate need to choose that Prince and preserve their essence because once it’s gone from the world, it’s gone forever.
I’m now convinced that pointy hat simply doesn’t like reptiles. He redesigns all his dragons to be very non reptilian looking. The only reptilian race he talked about was Dragonborn (because they’re a core race in 5th edition is my assumption) and the twist he gave them was turning them into humans with bits of dragon parts attached to them, so very non reptilian. In his Dragons are BAD video he called dragons big flying lizards and said that’s fine for people who like that sort of look. Which leads me to believe he doesn’t like reptiles or consider them pretty enough to be aesthetically pleasing to make characters. Pointy hat hates reptiles, that’s my takeaway from all this and it saddens me since I love reptiles so much and half the characters I’ve created are Dragonborn or lizard people or snake people.
ok cool and ur point? plenty of ppl dont like reptiles they creep lots of ppl out
@@chaos8271 They’re not that scary or creepy. They’re usually misunderstood and get a bad wrap for it. And they’re really beautiful. My point is it saddens me that my favorite D&D RUclipsr doesn’t seem to like reptiles at all and reptiles are one of my great loves.
@RETROID4500X everyone likes and dislikes different things.
Personally I think reptiles are overused because it's easy to play off the unnerving mythos and actual appearance they have. But I'm glad you can appreciate them. (Would not force my opinion on you)
As a fellow Reptile fan this is indeed fairly disappointing
Yeah I hate all his dragon designs. They don't look like the dragons I like.
Always remember that when it comes to your complaints about Dragon stats and abilities, the problem with 5e Dragons is that they're RIDICULOUSLY simplified from their older edition versions. Green Dragons USED to have cool spell-like abilities for manipulating both plants and people (they had Charm Person AT WILL), and could camouflage themselves in woodlands. They lost ALL of those traits while coming over to 5e. Dragons got NERFED. Edit: And apparently there's a variant ruleset that gives Dragons innate spellcasting IN the Monster Manual.
Yep. Its an optional rule becuase dragons can be super dangerous already, and an archmage is like CR 9 despite a really weak statblock just becuase it has spells...
I believe you would find most of what you’re referring to in the regional and lair statistics section of the green dragon.
This is true if you ignore the regional effects of dragons, their lair actions, and the rule that lets you grant them spellcasting. Its almost as though only reading the stat blocks only gives you partial information.
@Matanlimer yeah it was weird hearing him complain about how green dragons are supposedly plant connected despite having no plant abilities in the Stat block while both the regional effects and lair actions are fairly plant heavy. The lair actions and regional effects are just as important for the storytelling of legendary monsters as the Stat block is.
If nothing else, the fact that green dragons care about their offspring, makes me respect them a little bit more than if they didn’t
Blue dragons care about their offspring too.
I imagine an adult dragon scolding their hatchling for eating some "interns" like a kid who broke a vase.
If only he got his lore right
Even then, taking in slaves is not really a good thing.
So bassicaly
Warden dragon - Join my team hooman
Green dragon - Be my slave
Archon Dragon - family hooman
Patron Dragon - (contract in hand) WANNA BE A MEMBER, WANNA BE A MEMBER
This totally could be used to create a butler guild where they learn together how to best care for others and those in the guild
Do a monk next since it is already established that dragons sometimes start monastaties. And it would make sense with the way of the dragon monk.
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Like Ojutai
A dragon just...punching stuff is hilarious.
@@GarlicPudding The dragon's breath weapon is just a big fist that comes out of its mouth lol
what animal would a monk dragon be?
I like the idea of using a moon dragons as a sort of archon dragon for Lycanthropes. They give them power to control the curse but can also leverage this control and influence their feral side.
Oh that’s rife for abuse! Which could make the Archon Dragon a great villain! A mob boss dragon that controls its syndicate but holding basically their own souls as hostage.
@@ThePa1riot There are many different ways you could twist it.
False secret harmonic community where lycanthropes are going through some secret ritual that purifies their curse, but in reality they are becoming mindless minions to the dragon.
Poor lycanthrope victims could also get trapped in a sort of addict scheme, where they need to do whatever the dragon tells them to do unless they want their feral side to come back.
Okay, now I'm obsessed with the idea of a nanny dragon running an orphanage. Just imagine: the kids grow up and leave the building they grew up in, but never truly leave their Family. They might take up adventuring, but they always come back as often as they can, bringing back their earnings, their tales and maybe other orphans they met along the way. With time, the orphanage at the end of the small town grows into a town in it's own right as more and more children grow up and start a life near their true Home. When they start a family of their own, any child born is then entrusted to the Archon's Daycare together with the orphans. It could be a great backstory, maybe starting the adventuring job at the request of your Archon Nanny, looking for more people for the Hoard. A rare happy and fluffy reason to go out and risk your life XD
I forgot to post this on your other dragon video but since you mentioned that dragons don’t have a lot of non-combat related stuff so I thought I’d give some options for some
•White dragons
- They are functionally animals so unlike other dragons they might have a secondary (Beast) type which- is an old concept but could work. Anyway, this type would allow them to be reasoned with with speak to animals as they may be too primitive for draconic and may allow higher level Druids to wild-shape into them
-Giants might ask to hunt them and vice versa
-Smarter white dragons may like hunting for sport and could even welcome some people they see as honorable along to their hunts
-The more bestial ones that are reasoned with could still ask for adventurers to guard their eggs or go out to get supplies for their nest
•Black dragons
-They are really hard to think of non-combat ideas for… the only one I can think of is that a party could help calm down a Hag and Black Dragon in some truce that, if it goes south, might level the whole swamp and the villages near it
•Green dragon
-They collect people to use as tools to further their (political/territorial) power for their own gain and are machiavellians
-If the party meets the green dragon’s interest they could exchange a deal for some item or favor from the dragon in return for the dragon calling them for a favor (whether it be to further their power through blackmail or assassination or something else is left to the dragon’s whim)
-As long as a town can meet ends meet or meet some untold price to the green dragon they may receive protection and could trade goods with the green dragon’s syndicate
•Blue Dragon
-They seem to be obsessed with magic items but they also seem to let their slaves trade with others so maybe they run black markets and underground casinos in deserts
-If the previous idea works they could barter to give/get magic items from a party or may play a game with a wager with them to get something. Due to their pride they refuse to cheat
•Red Dragon
-They are obsessed with news and knowing information of neighboring kingdoms (seems more like a Green Dragon thing but okay) so they could request the party for espionage or for the latest gossip
-Their request for info might be strategic but maybe red dragons are just really passionate and love listening to humanoid quarrels like it’s a soap opera (which reminds me of Alastor for some reason)
Black Dragons love things that come from old and ruined civilizations. Maybe it has hired the party to collect an ancient relic from the territory of a stronger dragon?
6:59 I went to the ancient green dragon page in dnd beyond and found these two lair actions
Grasping roots and vines erupt in a 20-foot radius centered on a point on the ground that the dragon can see within 120 feet of it. That area becomes difficult terrain, and each creature there must succeed on a DC 15 Strength saving throw or be restrained by the roots and vines. A creature can be freed if it or another creature takes an action to make a DC 15 Strength check and succeeds. The roots and vines wilt away when the dragon uses this lair action again or when the dragon dies.
A wall of tangled brush bristling with thorns springs into existence on a solid surface within 120 feet of the dragon. The wall is up to 60 feet long, 10 feet high, and 5 feet thick, and it blocks line of sight. When the wall appears, each creature in its area must make a DC 15 Dexterity saving throw. A creature that fails the save takes 18 (4d8) piercing damage and is pushed 5 feet out of the wall’s space, appearing on whichever side of the wall it wants. A creature can move through the wall, albeit slowly and painfully. For every 1 foot a creature travels through the wall, it must spend 4 feet of movement. Furthermore, a creature in the wall’s space must make a DC 15 Dexterity saving throw once each round it’s in contact with the wall, taking 18 (4d8) piercing damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one. Each 10-foot section of wall has AC 5, 15 hit points, vulnerability to fire damage, resistance to bludgeoning and piercing damage, and immunity to psychic damage. The wall sinks back into the ground when the dragon uses this lair action again or when the dragon dies.
There's also two of the Regional Effects:
• Thickets form labyrinthine passages within 1 mile of the dragon’s lair. The thickets act as 10-foot-high, 10-foot-thick walls that block line of sight. Creatures can move through the thickets, with every 1 foot a creature moves costing it 4 feet of movement. A creature in the thickets must make a DC 15 Dexterity saving throw once each round it’s in contact with the thickets or take 3 (1d6) piercing damage from thorns.
Each 10-foot-cube of thickets has AC 5, 30 hit points, resistance to bludgeoning and piercing damage, vulnerability to fire damage, and immunity to psychic and thunder damage.
• Within 1 mile of its lair, the dragon leaves no physical evidence of its passage unless it wishes to. Tracking it there is impossible except by magical means. In addition, it ignores movement impediments and damage from plants in this area that are neither magical nor creatures, including the thickets described above. The plants remove themselves from the dragon’s path.
Honestly, I have no idea why he didn't mention any of these. Although they're not in the statblock itself, they are still something the dragon can do.
I personally think these are pretty cool even if they're a bit simple for a "legendary creature" that a dragon is supposed to be.
Interesting idea. The horde also helps explain how dragonborns occur. Some dragons like establishing blood ties with their horde, helping to keep them loyal.
*halfdragons
Dragonborn are their own race from a realm ruled by dragons where they were... Interns... Like kobolds but more rebellious. In official 5e lore they actually have a deep-rooted hatred for all dragon kind and those who worship them
@@torunsmok5890 Did you know that dragonborn were originally mortal races that basically ascended via a ritual to become dragonborn? With the great 4th Edition Rewrite, they were made to be a base race, rather than a template. Sadly, many templates died to bring us 4th Edition and 5th Edition. :(
So in a syndicate; we can see Chicago gangland style war on the streets or the tong war or the Irish mafia in New York? I love it!
Kobolds with greaser hair style, tiefling in zuit suits and outcasts with switch blades fighting it out on the streets.
How would a kobold have a greaser hair style? Do they just put on a wig and dowst it with grease?
Yakuza?
Woo! I’m so here for this series!
The very first story I ever remember hearing was one my mom told me about a dragon. It started with the typical village being occasionally lightly singed by the typical dragon, as is typical. So the typical king sent a typical knight to go slay the dragon. But when the knight got there, he found not an entitled, imposing monster, but instead he found the dragon crying. All he ever wanted was to have friends, he was tired of living alone in his cave. But he couldn’t stop breathing fire, it was like a medical thing. So the knight, realizing this was no monster, decided to solve both problems at once. He sat down and offered to be the dragon’s friend.
I’ve loved dragons ever since. To me, personally, they represent friendship and the good that can be found in almost anyone, no matter how misunderstood.
I always appreciate it in stories when dragons are depicted as people. If they’re evil, it’s not by nature, but by choice. Fighting a villainous dragon isn’t a sad story of a wild animal that needs to be put down, it’s a struggle against a monster who chose to do the evil they did. And on the other hand, approaching a dragon could be done to seek, or even offer, help to someone who can chose to do good. And often has the power to do great good, if only they choose to.
A suggestion for the Paladin Dragon, you could use Eagles as inspiration for their design. I've seen MANY Paladin like warriors using the Eagle as a symbol of power, might and justice.
A stag might work too
a stag might be better for a druid@@dbalwochus
I feel like this is more of a Warlock dragon. Since it bestows powers to those who join its family (make a deal with it), and is capable of taking that power back if they leave the family (break the deal). While sorcery is either a birthright, or an exposure to something that fundamentally changes their nature, and can't just be taken back by whatever gave them the power.
I feel the same, sorcery has no take backsies, unless the DM finds an extraordinary circumstance that makes sense. The dragon itself works well enough as a concept, but the sorcery just feels a little tacked on to be honest.
What's funny about "exposure to cosmic forces" can be anything from "I got Magic Radiation Poisoning" to "I got struck by lightning and lived."
About green dragons: If you squint hard enough green dragons have plants represented in their "stat block" as their lair actions are plant themed
Although I love this I wonder if the concept doesn't hit to close to the warlock ?
It's gonna be very fun to see how you reinvent the warden dragon to fit the warlock concept while staying unique^^
Yeah, if it were me, I'd have it as just being a part of the syndicate makes you a Sorcerer not even the dragon Controls it. If the syndicate sees you as its member subconsciously then you have the potential to become a sourcerer.
Warlock dragon tap into an unknown link between the dragon and the warlock, with the dragon being unable to manifest to anyone but the linked person, thus making them appear to be a more powerful force themselves but really just a puppet for the real dragon. Sort of taking from the cult of personality mindset that many cults have, only to reveal to the warlock "Oh I really did make a deal with a greater power" but no one else can know about it directly, and maybe even having the dragon by default appear as the pact item, so familiar has the dragon as a small pseudo dragon, blade has the dragon form a draconic shard, and tome has one of those books with a face on it that talks. This all in turn means the dragon must form their hoard indirectly through a select few followers expected to bring in new cultists, and it eventually becomes a pyramid scheme of followers all serving the dragon without knowing they're serving the dragon
@cablefeed3738
It would be cool if being in close proximity to the Archon Dragon is what grants the sorcerous power. Those closest to the Archon (the inner circle) almost always become sorcerers, but even those with minimal contact can still pick up sorcerous powers. The syndicate keeps a close eye on all who are exposed to the Archon, and ruthlessly eliminates anyone whom they perceived as a threat, thus controlling the flow of the power. The Archon can't cut off the sorcerer's power (that's more of a warlock thing), but if you betray the family you'll get "Il bacio della morte".
I mean, my warlock has his patron be a giant evil space dragon, and it’s also where some of her power comes from.
Ye he definitely just described a warlock patron
I love these dragons but the continued contact the members of the hoard have to have with with the dragon, and the fact that the dragon can take the power away, really makes it feel more like a pact. Giving Warlock dragon vibes.
Honestly, this is what I love about the Warden Dragon idea; It is so malleable and great for both DMs and Players.
I would like to see you implement them into the DND lore, maybe they are an offshoot of the first world Tiamat, Bahamut, and Sardior ruled.
Plot twist: Pointy Hat is a Bard Dragon and we’re all part of the horde.
I'm glad I finally knew the difference between Sorcerers and Wizards
Best comparison I've seen to explain Sorcerers is basically a mutant from X-Men.
Sorceror is the class for when you want to have one parent or ancerstor be some powerful being but without homebrewing a race or for when you want todo the clan with special powers thing or just straight up a mutant
How is this not a warlock? Devote yourself, get power. Prove loyalty, get more. Abandon or betray, lose power.
I mean, there's even a CHOICE in the matter, the very specific thing you mentioned is necessary for telling the difference between warlocks and sorcerers.
Simple solution would be to do like mafia and have a turf. Everyone who dwells in the turf becomes part of the hord whether they like it or not, and most can't understand or even control the power without joining the syndicate. Maybe even say it can go out of control without the dragon consistently balancing their magic.
The will of the dragon and concent of the person wouldn't be necessary for gaining or losing powers, just like it isn't for a sorcerer generally
Perhaps the dragon can control up to a d3 number of familiars who can go beyond that range
I’ve always imagined Green Dragons collect people in a similar fashion as Trazyn the Infinite
Was just having a massive pointy hat binge and this pops up! Amazing! I'm using your monk of the flesh and I love it so much! It's so fun and not game breaking!
Your idea of the archon dragon reminded me of the Dungeon Dad’s reimagining (not sure if that is the correct term) of purple dragons for the newest addition. The most noticeable difference besides one being chromatic and the other not being chromatic is that the purple dragon keeps ties with their parents even after adulthood. Additionally with an idea of the purple dragons running guilds, that came from that video, makes a purple dragon crime family that runs stuff behind the scenes a very believable norm for purple dragon families.
If and when you decide to do the lich for the warlock class, my suggestion would be to have it as though the one becoming the lich has to usurp power from their patron. Normally a patron and a warlock both agree to be in a pact, or the patron has the upper hand, but in this case the warlock has gotten strong enough to tip the scales. Perhaps they are leaching power from their patron through a ritual, or they found their patron’s true name and have bound it to serve them. In this case, the liches soul is bound within their patron somehow. The lich would have to work constantly to prevent the patron from escaping.
This was the best I could think of, if anyone has feedback please tell
I'm really hoping to see more of these, they have so much potential ^^ And like any dragon's horde, it'd be a shame to leave the set incomplete xDD
This looks great, though the people in the archon's hoard feel more like warlocks than sorcerers (people who get power explicitly from a higher being that can be revoked at anytime rather than inherently magical beings).
Warlocks do not get their powers revoked upon a falling out with their patron. Clerics are tithed to their deity, hence they lose all powers upon abandonment. Paladins become oathbreakers when deviating from their current oath.
Warlocks are like contractors, so whatever powers they are given, they keep.
@churchofgort Right, mb. Still feels weird that these sorcerers can get their magic revoked, though.
Great video and i really like the idea! I do feel like it steps on warlock's toes a bit too much, if it were me (it isnt) i would have gone for something based around arcane blood transfusions, where the dragon gifts its family draconic blood and all the power that comes with it, since i feel like the bloodline part is more heavily associated with sorcerers and their class identity. The mafia theme is wonderful tho!
Did the stat block drop and if so can someone point me to where or give a link
For warlock you can base the dragon on penguins, the most loyal and fearsome bird in the world
Love that you are covering dragons now pointy and I can’t wait to see more of the series.
My only gripe is that this feels very warlock like having power bestowed upon them as long as they work for them. And on top of that we already know that some sorcerers are already made from having draconic blood. I like it being tied to family tho, what if it was something like the dragon has passed their heritage across the lands and then when their descendants are old enough they gather them back like a long lost family reunion type deal lol. Just an idea
As someone who grew up on mob movies and fantasy movie this made me so happy 😊 I have an image of a dragon drinking whisky listening to Sinatra ❤
PLEASE keep making more amazing dragons like you've done so far, seeing as ya started with the wizard and now sorcerer I'm guessing Bard is going to be the in the later vids. Though I'm VERY excited to see the rest with what ya brilliantly come up with
Pointy's hatred of D&D dragons is awesome. I hope to one day be able to reach this level of pettiness.
These Warden Dragons are Pointy's top content tied for first with the lich videos.
Super excited to see "Barbarian Dragon" as I had a subrace dragon I tried it with where they could just muscle through almost every type if dragon. Also had a thing I called "War blood" where they could essentially stop themselves from bleeding for a "short" time [till they passed out from obvious]. Hope for inspiration.
The Archon Dragon‘s artwork reminds me of Teostra from the Monster Hunter games. Now, Teostra is my favorite monster in the whole genre. Naturally, I love this. Keep going, I can already tell that this series is going to be a huge success! :)
I loooove this vibe with sorceress that live a long life, where they are some kind of dictators who has secretly been a ruler of a massive territory for centuries. It so cool and easy to run campaign with
I'm just going to wait for u to do a ton of this and make a campaign about this. For real is the best idea I ever heard
I would love to see the druid dragon next! My recently started campaign has a druid with a secretly draconic patron, and I'd love to see the statblock so I could get some inspiration.
Nice idea for a series, Pointy Hat. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
I do have a suggestion. Please get Treasury of Dragons (or look up the subclasses provided in it online) before making a Warden Dragon for the Monk Class. There's a Monk subclass in it called "The Way Of The Ascendant Dragon" which would be perfect for it to specialize in teaching its followers. It could even borrow some of the mechanics, such as choosing elemental damage of each attack.
Ok hear me out-
Barbarian dragon that looks like a bear, their followers are referred to as their "blooded" because each one has to wound their dragon and drink of their blood to join the blooded. This draconic blood inside them allows them to rage like a path of the beast barbarian except instead of transforming to be beastly during rage, they gain draconic features. On the inverse, the idea is that each of their blooded's rages enhances the dragon's own rage. Their hoard is a wild and barely hanging together group of warriors each trying to prove themselves to their dragon, some hoards are actively competitive and actively fight each other (sometimes to death) to gain favour while others function as cohesive units winning wars for favour. The dragon's statblock would include things like rage, an empowered rage for being with their hoard, and maybe even one last rage that lets them get an extra turn after death where they become full feral. Otherwise it should include things like reckless attack and the roar should force wisdom saves so as to not be terrified. They should be tankier and more physically powerful than other dragons but note that their usage of magic is quite crude compared to other dragons.
I really love the concept! I hope you would tackle certain jobs like alchemists, smiths, scribes, or even tailors as concepts for your warden dragons or even liches after you finish the main dnd classes. Looking forward for the next ones!!!
Yay, another dragon video.
I forsee that the bad dragon joke will NOT get old in the lifetime of this series.
We all know power creatures don't give us what we want without a price. Magic Hat, what is the catch to these dragon videos?
OMG i just love these videos! I cant wait for the next! hopefully you do fighter dragons soon, I'd be really intreasted in what you'd do with it!
“Stronger as they become older” is a thing from Tolkien lore where the older something or someone is the stronger it is.
One idea I love about this is exploring themes of connection, abandonment, love. Imagine a sorcerer who is the oldest in a syndicate mostly comprised of children, trying to be responsible while also worrying what example they set and if their Archon loves them like the others.
Or, a Warlock, who betrayed their Archon or was betrayed by them, but in need of power latched onto another power source from a place of vulnerability
Yes king! Everything you put out is always straight fire. Currently running a world in which the major factions are run by one of each of your lich variants and its a ton of fun. Looking forward to all the draconic goodness.
tbh, by the way the Archon Dragons create syndicates and give and take away power, they sound more like that of a Warlock Dragon rather than a Sorcerer Dragon.
I imagine Sorcerer Dragons being almost magic anomalies. They cause magic wherever they go and can't exactly control it, forming guilds to either use their powers for some sort of good (perhaps by undoing the chaotic effects they cause), or creating more chaos.
Cities will develop weird anomalies, but as they do, more people awaken to power..
Perhaps these Sorcerer Dragons share their magic because if they don't, the concentrated magic they constantly build will become too overwhelming, so they are FORCED to do this to prevent great explosions of magic (Sort of Gale from BG3 style maybe). The truly sadistic build this magic, and those who become to upset with life have been known to deliberately destroy themselves in their later lives, choosing to take out mass amounts of population in a kamikaze explosion, rather than die peacefully. After all, if you've only got a year left, why not?
Those who are good would do so for a sense of greater self, a great magical explosion will ruin a lot of lives, but those who are more selfish do so for more self-preservation. Doing their best to attempt to regulate the amount they exude, and find a balance between letting out enough magic into the world, but not enough that it destroys them or makes someone too powerful.
The communities of these Sorcerer Dragons are less so organised societies, but more a ramshackle group, thrown together by luck, as people who awaken to the Sorcerer Dragon's natural exuding magic, and thus its just as easy to find someone willing to abuse it as it is to find someone trying to use their powers for good.
A prince is not chosen by a Sorcerer Dragon, and its just whomsoever gets the most lucky, gets the most power from the Sorcerer Dragon, and so a Sorcerer Dragon spends much of their time monitoring the current pool of strongest, so they can find one who is the most suitable. If they can't.. Well, the Sorcerer Dragon cannot control it, and has to take actions into their own claws..
As might a rival. For if the current candidate dies, then the crown falls to the next strongest, and the next and the next. In some cabals, this creates a hierarchy of power, in others this makes the cabal a bloodthirsty and backstabbing place, and in others, this difference in power is a challenge, with each member striving to overcome and become the most powerful, magically, so they may rise to the top of the ranks.
Luck is the name of the game with these dragons, as is it luck who and when someone becomes a sorcerer. You could get unlucky and be bound to a dragon who cares only for its own survival, get unlucky and be an unsuitable candidate for prince despite your incredible strength, unlucky in that your specific tie and amount you have is weaker than others, be unlucky enough to have a serial killer or a rival be a part of your cabal.
Just as it is in luck you might be the strongest and most suitable candidate, with a being that exudes magic guiding and teaching you to control, understand and grow your power.
Me: Where is the stat block for your Archon Dragon, it's been over two months now.
Pointy Hat: You like Orcs?
I so hope he hasn't given up on this statblock, I really want to see his take on this
@@SpeedSpawn78Given how he hasn't gotten around to dropping the stat block during this time, how he hasn't made any announcement as to when or why the stat block hasn't dropped, or anything of the sort (and believe me I looked everywhere that so much held a hint on the Sorcerer Dragon and I found NOTHING), it's more than likely he had abandoned the whole dragon project all together.
@@NeonBlacklightTH I mean this is a viable interpretation, but we could theorize anything
I personally choose to believe he'll work on it for the next dragon rework, I'm sure there's gonna be more just like there were a lot of different liches
@@SpeedSpawn78Yeah on the one hand, the whole dragon project of his is good as dead if not the stat block for the Sorcerer Dragon in general, which sucks mind you, but given some of the backlash against him and his overall opinion on D&D Dragons it's kind of understandable as to why he may have decided to end the dragon series early and never touch it again.
On the other hand, looking up on his Twitter/X, he seems to be on vacation of sorts with what I assume that his more recent videos having most likely been ones on the backburner he had if he ever decided to go on a vacation. Because some RUclipsrs will have an extra video or two stashed away within their logs whenever they have to leave RUclips for a long period of time whether it be for medical reasons or in this case personal reasons so that RUclips's algorithm doesn't go and put them on the chopping block.
@@NeonBlacklightTH yes it looks like he has been busy with other stuff lately. It's true a lot of people argued with these dragons, mostly because of their appearance, but it appears to me that the mechanics are still very much appreciated.
Even though you're showing fair points, I don't believe the dragon series is done, I'm sure if he decides not to pursue this project further he will announce it.
I still have a lot of time before I have to use this statblock as I have implemented a sorcerer warden dragon as the head of a syndicate in the campaign I'm running, and there's plenty of time before they meet him. So there's no reason for me to be impatient for now. But I get that other people might want to run this sooner.
honestly bear dragons would be a really good fit for paladins since they lost lions to sorcerers.
I actually had a concept for a bard themed warden dragon that takes on features of a parrot, and actually attracts people using its singing voice (which also incorporates the various sounds it heard that it reproduces through mimicry).
Happy 2024 Pointy (and familiar)!!!
This is such a fun idea, and I'm delighted to see you finding ways to make dragons interesting to those who aren't normally interested in them.
I'd give my life for the Family if I could have even a fraction of this -guy's- hat's creativity, goddamn. Also, as someone who finds sorcerers, especially draconic sorcerers, really boring- inspiring me to want to play one is nothing short of impressive. Love this channel so much.
The video is really cool, but once again I’m surprised that you consider 5E dragons not varied, there’s soooo much you can do with each of them with the monster manual only, let alone with Fizban’s! It’s just weird, I feel like I read a different monster manual than you 😂
That being said, this is a super cool series, I’m curious to see the others
I agree. He makes the dragons sound so boring, but honestly, you could make these Arcon Dragons easily with the existing ones. Blue Dragons are perfect for mafia bosses, and Gold, Silver, and Bronze dragons love to lead organizations of righteous humanoids.
@Samaru163 yeah, the Arcon is basically a blue dragon with a cool ass backstory.
As my New Year's resolution, I want to try and praise the content creators I enjoy. Pointy Hat, this was yet another amazing video from you. It's apparent that a lot of work has gone into your creations. They're compelling, and more importantly, useable at the table. Any table at all. In fact, I've already got a plot for my Tuesday night game that uses the lore of the Vigil, adjusted to fit into the area of the world my group is exploring. To keep it brief, you don't get a divinely appointed bodyguard without people assuming you're some sort of god-king. But, back to the warden dragons, given the nature of the Archon Dragon, I'm really curious to see what you cook up for Rogues.
But most of all, Thank You for what you do. For ALL you do.
Happy New Year!! You inspired me to make a lich campaign involving your lichs! I love it and obsessed with this idea! I'm excited to see your new lichs to add to my game. Keep doing what your doing! Much love!
Omg……Antonio this is soooooo good! Everything you create is so fresh and interesting - but this is just fantastic! I love the whole concept, the story is on point, and the art is just mwah! This is going to be my new character, hands down! And I hate dragons! But you’ve converted me!
Is the statblock out already?
Dude your videos have inspired me to make a campaign with some of your entities that you have created! The concepts you come up with have changed the way I see D&D in amazing ways. Keep up the amazing work! I have a interesting challenge for you, Can you make a Fighter Lich? Either a basic class fighter or even a subclass from fighter that gives them spell casting? So they can achieve this?
Two dragon videos in 3 weeks? Who hurt you, mr. Pointy hat? 😢But seriously, it is extremely helpful and inspiring for my campaign, which features dragons quite heavily. The standard D&D lore makes me want to claw my eyes out, make them a soul tupperware and become an evil sexy lamp in my lair so I don't have to deal with uwu good Bahamut or big bad evil Tiamat. It is nice to have some fresh perspective, I am trying to say.
A month after the video and the statblock isn't there still.
It is now.
I'm super jazzed to see the druid dragon NOT have the hoard of Animals, but the Ranger one does, and it's all the most Apex Predators of its "Favored Terrain".
The druid dragon just keeps potted plants... or weather phenomenon.
Dude, if I volcano suddenly pops up in a farming village, the entire community is going to change dragon change the world by being a big Godzilla monster, because either people don’t want the big Godzilla monster, or the big Godzilla monster makes everyone change around you don’t need to have a warden go “ I like this human. I’m gonna keep them as a pet.” You could just have people go oh shit, there’s a giant volcano that wasn’t there yesterday and it’s getting way too hot to live. We should hire some videos to go kill the thing.
Where's the stat block?
Lmao, it's been 2 months, I think I'ma just do it for them.
MORE ! I WANT MORE !
(Very good content by the way, my favorite serie from you with he liches one)
This series also works quite well as Classes for Dragons. Tchazzar is a Red who created a syndicate around him so well that he became king, then a god.
Both Dragons are amazing for worldbuilding. I want to run a campaign where a cataclysm destroyed the world and the only cities that survived where the ones with a warden. And even though this communities are amicable with each other, the are rivals for the only resource that they want... People. That would make it like factions trying to convince the PCs to join them.
Bro, every video you make is a source of inspiration for me. Thank you so much.
draconic bloodline is perfect
you are chosen as the prince, and as you do more tasks for the dragon throughout the story, you become more dragon-like and powerful
Something for after my characters finish their wanderings through the tumerous 0G supercomputer, fight off an army of illagers, and discover hibernating slivers.
Tumerous 0G Supercomputer - inspired by Rain World
Illagers - inspired by Minecraft
Slivers - inspired by Magic the Gathering
("inspired" as in adapted into D&D and altered lorewise and mechanically to fit into my particular campaign.)
I'm so glad you're making this into a series
one of my favorite parts about this series already is that it has basically infinite variety for heavy homebrew class users like myself. at the end of the series i would love to see a document for the basic ideas that go to archon dragons mechanically so we can basically make an archon dragon for any conceivable homebrew class.
These warden dragons are such an interesting idea. I have never liked how typical D&D dragons barely stray from the almost inactive obstacle boss monster in a distant lair.
It's a lot more fun seeing players' shocked expressions upon seeing a dragon doing something mundane in a city like just buying goods from the market. The game feels more fantastic when any sapient creatures act like people, not just objectives.
This seems like something that my sorcerer would have been brought into, but he’s already a sorcerer, and a wild magic one at that.
Favourite part of these videos is the kiss at the end. Makes me feel special.
I think that a ram or goat would have been a better animal for this, especially since they get called nanny dragons, but I can still see a really cool dynamic being presented with two lion-dragons.
I imagine these guys are more prone to darker colors than the holier, paladin-oriented ones, and there’s definitely something to be said about the visuals of a big, glowing golden lion-dragon fighting an imposing black one. You can even change things up a bit by having the paladins be effectively the inquisition who use violence to make everyone catholic, and their arch enemy is this enormous shadowy beast that is actually keeping orphans and outcasts from getting lynched by zealots. Could be really cool.
Once again, you've knocked it out of the park. Whoever buys D&D from WotC should give serious consideration to hiring you
I say add in that Archon Dragons on death can make the given magic power permanently stick to as few or as many of its family as it wishes.
Each of your videos could keep my campaign stories stocked for months. Loving this new series, thanks again!
i cant wait to see the stat block for this. im making a dragon demiplane/world in my dnd world/universe and would love to add the warden dragons to it
I just wanted to say that I love all of your ideas and videos thank you verry much and keep it going, each video is as awesome as the last.