The 5.3 Spiral Abyss enemy lineup seems just as challenging for starter characters as 5.2, mainly due to my limited teams for countering all its mechanics. I should probably start testing enemy mechanics and practicing early, as I did for the 5.2 Spiral Abyss.
Have you considered using Pyro Traveler? They have night soul aligned attacks and use normal attacks, so they can take advantage of both of the 5.3 Abyss buffs. They also have access to the strong supportive and offensive Natlan sets. Maybe I'm just coping, but it might be worth looking into.
Not to diminish his effort but he got 4 of them at constellation 6. Even a C6 Noelle would be a huge game changer for me. Still this **** on those who say you need this character and that character to do well in the Abyss lol.
@@jiffonbuffo yeah but most don't restrict themselves to playing teams with beginner/free units only. Many more players can build stronger teams with 5 stars and non free 4 stars. That's not to takeaway from the absolute difficulty spike in recent Abyss tho, the fact that it's still barely achievable with C6 fully optimized 4 stars when at one point it could've been done with C0s on mediocre builds is a testament to the crazy HP inflation of enemies. Which sucks because inevitably Imaginarium Theater will go through the same HP inflation and we still get zero upgrade in rewards from either of the endgame content, this type of sht should be illegal tbh.
Idk man, these beginner/free units doesn't sounds free on higher constellation. Eg: having c5 kachina speaks a lot. Not even 100 pulls guarantee you to get her cons. @@acanthafiore
This is genuinely so impressive! with my almost full 5 star teams I barely beat 12-1 and 12-2 probably had half a second left and only had 9 seconds left on 12-3. I saw the hour long videos of you retrying and honestly that sort of dedication is truly astonishing
What an amazing show! TBH I prefer to watch this kind of Abyss run rather than the other runs out there with fancy meta/OP characters, because I love strategic & mechanical gameplay more than easily achievable big numbers of damage with minimum effort.. This video also teaches all of us that to clear some of the hardest content in Genshin Impact, we actually don't always need fancy characters with super max build/investment (fancy weapons, max-cons, & godly artifact stats). Indeed with them we can clear those challenging content easily (even with minimum effort), but it doesn't mean that it's impossible to do by using only old/starter characters with decent investment (more effort will be required of course), proper strategies & mechanics also have a big role..
damn. good job. you really used all the tools you had available for this. me and my friend have this challenge that we have to 36 star with only pre-sumeru characters (so no dendro!), and another separate challenge to onyl use four stars, but i generally combine both challenges on my run. still, my parties had decent synergy so i didn't need to change them at all for the different chambers. top side: gorou, DPS noelle, support ningguang and xingqiu bottom side: bennet fischl xiangling beidou my noelle is super broken and has r5 redhorn tho. idk how viable this is for people not as invested. maybe a serpent spine noelle can still handle it. maybe whiteblind too? idk. she was way faster than your top side so the bottleneck must have been on the other side on chambers that cut it kinda close.
Amazing as always! This is actually my first time seeing the enemy line up for this Abyss and.......... it looks like a huge hassle! Maybe I just won't do it this month, hahaha
I literally searched an exact title of this video after i saw someone cleared it with 4 star only wondering if someone could do it, i thought its impossible clear the abbys using starter characters only, Impressive!
That's an insane run, congrats! Hopefully pyro traveler will be a good addition to the starter teams since it can on field with obsidian or support with cinder city
It is so frustrating that I have fully built characters and still can’t 36 stars the abyss!!! Imagine all 4 members in a team were already crowned, still can’t beat 3mins limit
This abyss is less of a build check and more of a team composition check. For instance, you need a hydro for first side to knock down the qucusaur, and geo to deal with the wolflord. Second side needs bow to knock down aeonblight drake and either a Natlan character or a team with a lot of elemental application for papilla. If you have all the puzzle pieces built well enough, you can clear this abyss with ease imo. Ofc all this is not necessarily required, but it helps a ton.
Same here, I wish there was a larger variety of viable teams with the starter characters, especially because we’re now getting new enemies and combat mechanics that encourage certain teams to fight (i.e., Fluid Avatars of Lava, Void Barriers, etc.).
@@TurtleCamera I had been thinking about and concerned about that issue since the latter half of version 3. At the time, the team had enough DPS, so I studied trio party optimization for fun. But I was tired of playing the same party for over a year. I was also excited about Kachina, but Solving Geo's fundamental problems must come first.
@@-toriizaka46leaks; They have off field pyro app with some decent sub dps, but the application is pretty slow and not high in unit. So xiangling remains the best pyro applicator. They seem to be DESIGNED around working with mualani and other slow reaction units. Which… didn’t really NEED that boost.
Impressive work once again! You talked about game sense vs. mechanical skill a bit and I really do think that your game sense is really impressive, I definitely think it's a pretty underrated component to Abyss clears in general Good luck with the next one! Some parts of it do look pretty difficult
"Skill Issue!" In my face 😂 Very impressive and inspiring. After your video i have to try it again on weekend. I am at 33/36 and was fine, but now... Thanks for this
The ammounts of attempts and dedication just show how hard this abyss is. I really wished MiHoYo lowered down the total health curve but it seems it will keep going up.
I probably won’t push for that, unfortunately. The last time I tried to for a Spiral Abyss enemy lineup that was this hard was back in 4.7. That took 1,729 battles and burnt me out, yet I still had to splice the run for my mental health. A lot of subscribers and friends encouraged me to not do something like that, especially because I’m in an M.S. Computer Science program.
Great video! I am a no-pull account so I always try to find content of starters clearing hard missions. Would you consider adding a 5-star standard banner character to these challenges? Considering they're now offered every year to everyone? Thanks!
As toriizaka46 mentions, the 5-star standard banner characters aren’t considered starter characters to me personally (and probably the other starter character players), as they’re not obtainable permanently early in the game or guaranteed through a beginner banner.
As a former no-puller, you'll be checking videos of both starter runners and runners of the characters you have. Then you'll have to cook up your own approach based on the two concepts.
the best i could do is 33 even with my Neuvy team and Chasca. I can say it’s my skill issue and because I’m impatient to work with the floor’s mechanics. This is impressive.
People whine that the abyss is too hard ... new meta: Lynette Kachina Amber. Otherwise, 5* limited weapon on Xingling is sacrilege! Only The Catch allowed!
Guys, this abyss is hard and I recommend using atleast 1 geo character in 1st phase, I couldn't get 36 stars this abyss from my any good teams. Later I tried something unusual.... I tried navia hyperbloom in 1st half and surprisingly she got me 36 stars💀💀💀
I refuse to believe we play the same game, even with all my 5 stars like neuvillete, Nahida, Navia and furina, I am still unable to complete the abyss. But one noteworthy thing is this guy has c6 of almost all 4 stars while I don't
What you need for this run: - multiple c6 characters - insane luck on artifacts - multiple Favonious weapons - Patience - the proclivity to make it fun
2:57 finally you did it 😭. I ll show this to my mf homie who always said genshin is p2w. he also blame people who made out this freakin abyss. Btw, is this your worst spiral? or have you cleared worse abyss?
I camped the Momiji-Dyed Court for 2 years and then got this artifact a few weeks ago after the third attempt with the Artifact Transmuter, 👍: ruclips.net/video/89zaWGt3VQE/видео.html
How many times did you run abyss? It seems you have different teams on each chamber. This must've taken so much time but it's really impressive to see 4 stars completing abyss
another amazing run! every time i see how many tries it took I'm newly impressed; your tenacity is insane. it might be a simple detail in comparison to all the other plays in this video, but placing turbo twirly in preparation for the rifthound skulls was something i found so creative haha good luck for 5.3, and make sure to take care of yourself ❤
Thanks, 👍! I would place Turbo Twirly even earlier, but I found out during a week of practice sessions before the 5.2 Spiral Abyss that it has ICD. It goes through 5 hits before destroying a Rifthound Skull.
My team 1 with qiqi, zhongli, maulani, arlechinno and team 2 with furina, filuc, raiden, chasca is struggling to get a one star 12.1 don't know what should do I do lol.
You shouldn't have multiple characters that take field time within the same team; in your case, Mualani and Arlecchino, and Chasca and Diluc, shouldn't be together. You could instead have something like Xilonen, Dehya, Thoma, Mualani on the first half, and Furina, Bennett, Ororon, Chasca on the second half. In both of these teams, you quickly set up the first 3 characters with their skill and burst (except for Dehya which doesn't use her burst there), then spend a longer time on the fourth character doing damage, then repeat; that's a rotation. More generally, I would recommend looking up guides about team building and rotations so you have a better understanding of how to bring the best out of the characters you pulled.
The 5.3 Spiral Abyss enemy lineup seems just as challenging for starter characters as 5.2, mainly due to my limited teams for countering all its mechanics. I should probably start testing enemy mechanics and practicing early, as I did for the 5.2 Spiral Abyss.
Have you considered using Pyro Traveler? They have night soul aligned attacks and use normal attacks, so they can take advantage of both of the 5.3 Abyss buffs. They also have access to the strong supportive and offensive Natlan sets. Maybe I'm just coping, but it might be worth looking into.
@pavica5879 I have been looking into Pyro Traveler. I have some teams in mind, but I still need to do some testing with them when they’re released.
@@pavica5879
Bit of a strange question, since Pyro Traveller isn't out yet.
Bro said "skill issue" to everyone who can't do the abyss😂
Not to diminish his effort but he got 4 of them at constellation 6.
Even a C6 Noelle would be a huge game changer for me.
Still this **** on those who say you need this character and that character to do well in the Abyss lol.
@@jiffonbuffo yeah but most don't restrict themselves to playing teams with beginner/free units only. Many more players can build stronger teams with 5 stars and non free 4 stars. That's not to takeaway from the absolute difficulty spike in recent Abyss tho, the fact that it's still barely achievable with C6 fully optimized 4 stars when at one point it could've been done with C0s on mediocre builds is a testament to the crazy HP inflation of enemies. Which sucks because inevitably Imaginarium Theater will go through the same HP inflation and we still get zero upgrade in rewards from either of the endgame content, this type of sht should be illegal tbh.
Idk man, these beginner/free units doesn't sounds free on higher constellation. Eg: having c5 kachina speaks a lot. Not even 100 pulls guarantee you to get her cons. @@acanthafiore
It's not about skill issues. Its artifacts Issues.😂
This is the first time I've seen Lisa's unlimited vertical range become not only practical but relevant in breaking the shield of 12-2-1. Bravo!!!
This is genuinely so impressive! with my almost full 5 star teams I barely beat 12-1 and 12-2 probably had half a second left and only had 9 seconds left on 12-3. I saw the hour long videos of you retrying and honestly that sort of dedication is truly astonishing
Thanks, 👍!
This kind of content is much more impressive and fun than watching meta characters one-shotting enemies with a single click 🎉
Now THIS is an Abyss run I would watch
What an amazing show!
TBH I prefer to watch this kind of Abyss run rather than the other runs out there with fancy meta/OP characters, because I love strategic & mechanical gameplay more than easily achievable big numbers of damage with minimum effort..
This video also teaches all of us that to clear some of the hardest content in Genshin Impact, we actually don't always need fancy characters with super max build/investment (fancy weapons, max-cons, & godly artifact stats). Indeed with them we can clear those challenging content easily (even with minimum effort), but it doesn't mean that it's impossible to do by using only old/starter characters with decent investment (more effort will be required of course), proper strategies & mechanics also have a big role..
After watching this my arlechino with jade spear crying in corner
Count me in along with nuv r1 furina xilonen kahzua 😂 tho I'm missing last star
Everytime i watched your video. I know how bad my skill it is 😂
"If you struggle mechanically like me" BRO WTF?
I do, though, RIP
"If you struggle mechanically like me" BRUHHH!!
Very, very impressive runs! Your dedication (469 battles) to "36-star" this abyss is astounding. Looking forward for the next abyss reset! 👏
I thought with all the constraints this abyss would be the defeat of runs like this, nicely done!
youre so amazing!!! im getting chills watching this
I am rarely impressed by youtube abyss runs, but this was so solid, clean and well thought out. Great work.
Mad skills! Your Xiangling build is beyond insane!
Legend!!! I had so much trouble even with OP characters like Arlechino Navia Nahida Clorinde Yelan Xilonen...
damn. good job. you really used all the tools you had available for this.
me and my friend have this challenge that we have to 36 star with only pre-sumeru characters (so no dendro!), and another separate challenge to onyl use four stars, but i generally combine both challenges on my run. still, my parties had decent synergy so i didn't need to change them at all for the different chambers.
top side: gorou, DPS noelle, support ningguang and xingqiu
bottom side: bennet fischl xiangling beidou
my noelle is super broken and has r5 redhorn tho. idk how viable this is for people not as invested. maybe a serpent spine noelle can still handle it. maybe whiteblind too? idk. she was way faster than your top side so the bottleneck must have been on the other side on chambers that cut it kinda close.
damn congrats
Impressive clear, looking forward to the 5.3 one.
Amazing as always! This is actually my first time seeing the enemy line up for this Abyss and.......... it looks like a huge hassle! Maybe I just won't do it this month, hahaha
I literally searched an exact title of this video after i saw someone cleared it with 4 star only wondering if someone could do it, i thought its impossible clear the abbys using starter characters only, Impressive!
you absolute legend I bow down to your commitment and skill 🙇
YESSS UDID IT IM SO HAPPY FOR U :33 anyways im gna use these tips to clear now i've been struggling so bad
xingling with engulfing lighting!
scary
Amber is so good for the Papilla fight. Her burst hits 18 times, and that deals massive damage to the ward it puts up.
the amount of patience, truly amazing 🙏
The most Impressive one so far
That's an insane run, congrats! Hopefully pyro traveler will be a good addition to the starter teams since it can on field with obsidian or support with cinder city
Impressive as always!!
Peak gaming, very impressive, love your dedication!
Impressive as always ❤️ especially the tricks to group them together or keep them close by.
👍
The amount of skills you have it can be visible in this video impressive keep posting
My guy, running noelle with XL and Lisa is such a tall order 😂. ER nightmare
That Kaeya team was honestly something I did not expect
It is so frustrating that I have fully built characters and still can’t 36 stars the abyss!!! Imagine all 4 members in a team were already crowned, still can’t beat 3mins limit
This abyss is less of a build check and more of a team composition check. For instance, you need a hydro for first side to knock down the qucusaur, and geo to deal with the wolflord. Second side needs bow to knock down aeonblight drake and either a Natlan character or a team with a lot of elemental application for papilla. If you have all the puzzle pieces built well enough, you can clear this abyss with ease imo. Ofc all this is not necessarily required, but it helps a ton.
Seeing all that practice you did pay off is so satisfying.
That papilla clear was insane
How are you so good at this?....this is really amazing 😍mad respect for you❤
Peak skill and a lot of patience
The manipulation of enemy ai is gonna help me clear this abyss so much
Impressive as always!! This abyss was quite restrictive even using normal teams so well done
the runs just keep getting better and better
👍
Holy dedication. Hats off 👏
finally the algorithm catch you here, my intuition was as sharp as ever
WOW!! you make it looks so easy
Impressive...I'm speechless 🙊 ❤🎉
Almost 500 runs? I guess so, its hard af
The turtle just camera'd all over the place
Disappointed with Pyro and Hydro Traveler. I'm disappointed that I can't have a fun new party. I applaud your efforts.
Same here, I wish there was a larger variety of viable teams with the starter characters, especially because we’re now getting new enemies and combat mechanics that encourage certain teams to fight (i.e., Fluid Avatars of Lava, Void Barriers, etc.).
@@TurtleCamera
I had been thinking about and concerned about that issue since the latter half of version 3. At the time, the team had enough DPS, so I studied trio party optimization for fun. But I was tired of playing the same party for over a year. I was also excited about Kachina, but Solving Geo's fundamental problems must come first.
what's wrong with pyro traveler?
Dps kit not good as a support@@-toriizaka46
@@-toriizaka46leaks;
They have off field pyro app with some decent sub dps, but the application is pretty slow and not high in unit. So xiangling remains the best pyro applicator. They seem to be DESIGNED around working with mualani and other slow reaction units. Which… didn’t really NEED that boost.
Impressive work once again!
You talked about game sense vs. mechanical skill a bit and I really do think that your game sense is really impressive, I definitely think it's a pretty underrated component to Abyss clears in general
Good luck with the next one! Some parts of it do look pretty difficult
Thanks, 👍!
Why are we still here? Just to suffer...
another insane work 😭
"Skill Issue!" In my face 😂
Very impressive and inspiring.
After your video i have to try it again on weekend. I am at 33/36 and was fine, but now...
Thanks for this
469 attempts, theoretical chamber 1, seemingly not insane... nearly all my requests have been fulfilled!
How is the (sea)grass touching coming along?
I’ll make a video on the second channel about touching seagrass soon, 👍
I’ve fulfilled your last request, 👍 X2: ruclips.net/video/X2yHp0usgJM/видео.html
I let the terms too open, that's on me. But I take it! I hope that it helped
The ammounts of attempts and dedication just show how hard this abyss is.
I really wished MiHoYo lowered down the total health curve but it seems it will keep going up.
also will you be doing a continuous run? i saw some people manage it with 4 stars but not with starter characters
I probably won’t push for that, unfortunately. The last time I tried to for a Spiral Abyss enemy lineup that was this hard was back in 4.7. That took 1,729 battles and burnt me out, yet I still had to splice the run for my mental health. A lot of subscribers and friends encouraged me to not do something like that, especially because I’m in an M.S. Computer Science program.
This is one of those special players who has skills and has a PLAN in every situations very well played ❤
Very impressive! Congrats!
Made me feel pretty bad about myself only 33 star this abyss.... haha😅
It's official, I'm a bum
Xiangling w engulfing lightning. If i were on that team I'd be like "ay! where'd you get that"
The amount of people online I see actually strufgle with ququsaur boss is actually insane when in this video, barbara almost solo knocks it down....
Lisa’s Burst contributed a lot to that too, 👍
I'm surprised with keaya build it's really the best keaya I've ever seen in my life
Engulf lightning tryna sneak in there💀
Love it! 🎉❤
Respect 9000
Great video! I am a no-pull account so I always try to find content of starters clearing hard missions. Would you consider adding a 5-star standard banner character to these challenges? Considering they're now offered every year to everyone? Thanks!
they're not starter characters though, it's unlikely they'll get added
As toriizaka46 mentions, the 5-star standard banner characters aren’t considered starter characters to me personally (and probably the other starter character players), as they’re not obtainable permanently early in the game or guaranteed through a beginner banner.
As a former no-puller, you'll be checking videos of both starter runners and runners of the characters you have.
Then you'll have to cook up your own approach based on the two concepts.
the best i could do is 33 even with my Neuvy team and Chasca. I can say it’s my skill issue and because I’m impatient to work with the floor’s mechanics. This is impressive.
Gigs Chad clear
my400ms ping sometimes don't allow me to switch character 😢 35 star this time
No Bennett No Xingqiu NO KAZUHA!!!
Wow guys i love elemental mastery and energy recharge.
People whine that the abyss is too hard ... new meta: Lynette Kachina Amber.
Otherwise, 5* limited weapon on Xingling is sacrilege! Only The Catch allowed!
God it really is a skill issue in my part 😿 good work
Guys, this abyss is hard and I recommend using atleast 1 geo character in 1st phase, I couldn't get 36 stars this abyss from my any good teams. Later I tried something unusual.... I tried navia hyperbloom in 1st half and surprisingly she got me 36 stars💀💀💀
Wow, im befuddled. I didnt think it wasnpossible 😮😮❤
Oh. Ok. So i *am* just bad at abyss. That's fair.
I refuse to believe we play the same game, even with all my 5 stars like neuvillete, Nahida, Navia and furina, I am still unable to complete the abyss. But one noteworthy thing is this guy has c6 of almost all 4 stars while I don't
Crying with my 5 stars rn 😭
Bruh i love sanity 🗿
Why bro torturing himself 😅
Xiangling with Engulfing Lightning huh
Based
Please, i beg you. STOP MAKING FUN OF ME 😭🙏🏼
and here m struggling with neuv furina kazuha bhaizu team 🤡
What you need for this run:
- multiple c6 characters
- insane luck on artifacts
- multiple Favonious weapons
- Patience
- the proclivity to make it fun
dont forget their insane dedication and skill! genuinely finding so many tricks to cut of like a second of time is impressive
2:57 finally you did it 😭. I ll show this to my mf homie who always said genshin is p2w. he also blame people who made out this freakin abyss.
Btw, is this your worst spiral? or have you cleared worse abyss?
It’s between 4.7 and 5.2. Both are equally as hard. If I were to pick one that’s harder, it’s probably 5.2 because it’s more RNG-heavy.
o_O
All that work for 200 primogems? No way I'm going to do that but congrats, hope you had fun with it!
Bro how cracked is your artifact
I camped the Momiji-Dyed Court for 2 years and then got this artifact a few weeks ago after the third attempt with the Artifact Transmuter, 👍: ruclips.net/video/89zaWGt3VQE/видео.html
oh boy here we go
Nice. 👍
Howwww 😭😭😭🙏 I can't finish abyss with all the meta dps itself 😮💨
favge is the real hero
This is crazy
Would be nice if make a video showing ur account
I might consider making a video it on the second channel about both accounts if enough ask me about this, 👍
@TurtleCamera would be great
kaeya c6 soooo good.
He has c6 amber, kaeya, lisa and the most recently released kachina but somehow his Barbara's only at c3?? 😂
How do you change team when you move to chamber 2. The game made me starts over😭🙏
I have to restart the whole run and bring the new team past 12-1 (and 12-2)
GG 🎉🎉
good play
How many times did you run abyss? It seems you have different teams on each chamber. This must've taken so much time but it's really impressive to see 4 stars completing abyss
The description says 469 battles, 👍
another amazing run! every time i see how many tries it took I'm newly impressed; your tenacity is insane.
it might be a simple detail in comparison to all the other plays in this video, but placing turbo twirly in preparation for the rifthound skulls was something i found so creative haha
good luck for 5.3, and make sure to take care of yourself ❤
Thanks, 👍! I would place Turbo Twirly even earlier, but I found out during a week of practice sessions before the 5.2 Spiral Abyss that it has ICD. It goes through 5 hits before destroying a Rifthound Skull.
My team 1 with qiqi, zhongli, maulani, arlechinno and team 2 with furina, filuc, raiden, chasca is struggling to get a one star 12.1 don't know what should do I do lol.
You shouldn't have multiple characters that take field time within the same team; in your case, Mualani and Arlecchino, and Chasca and Diluc, shouldn't be together.
You could instead have something like Xilonen, Dehya, Thoma, Mualani on the first half, and Furina, Bennett, Ororon, Chasca on the second half. In both of these teams, you quickly set up the first 3 characters with their skill and burst (except for Dehya which doesn't use her burst there), then spend a longer time on the fourth character doing damage, then repeat; that's a rotation.
More generally, I would recommend looking up guides about team building and rotations so you have a better understanding of how to bring the best out of the characters you pulled.