Why you don't need to give up meat to save the planet
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Loads of people are ditching meat and changing to a vegan diet to help fight climate change. But can going vegan actually save the planet?
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There are lots of reasons people go vegan; sometimes they don't like meat or killing animals, others do it for health reasons but more and more are ditching meat because of climate change.
Veganism has become really popular in recent years. Veganuary - where people go vegan for a month - is now an annual event while plenty of people are getting angry about it - particularly vegan sausage rolls.
What's certain is that veganism is now a mainstream diet and is here to stay. But the amount of meat we eat globally is going up, which is having an increasing impact on the environment.
So do we all need to go vegan and will it actually help prevent climate change?
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So in summary, eating meat is destroying the planet but you dont thave to stop eating it, just have a bit less... After all the statistics they brought forward, thats their conclusion? How sad, why not stop acting like winey children and take some responsibility .
Pingu true but they need to give some room to move so they don’t get bashed in the comments. Your statement is even harder to take as in the next few decades more people globally will be eating meat since they will have other surplus in their wage. Honestly I think we’re fucked
@@carlosvasquez6054 yeah that's fair, but then it results in people who eat meat six times a week thinking theyre doing enough because they don't eat it for one day. Let's be real, there are people who won't change what they eat no matter what, they aren't worth trying to 'bargain' with, the issue is people who may actually be willing yo go vegan might not go all the way because of videos like this
@@Lb-ri5wr Moving forward 1 inch is still better than not move at all! If somebody who eating meat 20 times a week, giving it up for only one day in a week, this video already achieved something!
@@chesterrory that's true, but at the same time, murdering one person is better than murdering twenty people, that doesnt mean we'd let the murderer off for killing one person...
I would have been satisfied if they recommended going vegan at whatever pace they can. Obviously, the sooner the better. Most people think in black and white terms. They think " I can't do that!" So they don't even try. On the other hand, many vegans transitioned slowly.
Veganism isn't about saving the planet, it just does as a side effect.
It is for me...
@@DuartedeZ You're thinking of a plantbased diet.
@@HerbivoreClub Well I suppose they overlap almost 100% with the exception of honey maybe but my reasons to be vegan are primarily environmental.
I think for a lot of people veganism starts off as being about the planet alone, or healthy alone. It's only after someone has been vegan a while that they can see how unnecessary and horrifying the animal industry is. Most people live their whole lives being fed images on milk cartons of happy little red barns and green pastures, alongside the notion that it's necessary. That we NEED it. Veganism for many people is a catalyst for critical thinking. It's not fair to divide vegans into groups depending on where they are in their journey. It's much better to be supportive, helpful, compassionate, and understanding. If you want to be an activist, then be an example of compassion. We're all equals here.
@@DuartedeZ did you stop wearing wool for the environment? Do you not support the pet trade for the environment?
It's not that vegans "can't" eat meat, eggs, dairy products etc but rather, it's choosing not to :)
yeah,because "vegans" can choose what to buy and eat
Well they literally cannot otherwise they aren't vegan are they?
Nice logic
So?
Its like brainwashing.
Well it's a good job i'm not trying to the save planet, I'm trying to save the animals from needless exploitation, violence and death.
I would be making fun of vegans, and I would deny most of what they say in the video... But I ditched animal products long ago, and maybe in a couple years those of you who make fun of vegans will be preaching about it.
Hallelujah, praise broccoli.
You're so 2005. We've all moved on to the next fad: eating like our great-grandparents. Wholefoods- meat and vegs- fully cooked and served with love. You'll catch up eventually.
I will never go vegan
@@RunninUpThatHillh we are so fash! I only eat meat and dairy, raised on a farm less than 100km from my home. Eggs from next door. Health improved 95% in a month. These kids will be the last of the numbnuts who fall for Kelloggs poop fetish, as we raise our gen Z kids on meat and ketogenic recipes that were the norm until the industrial revolution ( what a scourge that has been) or as I like to call it the Century of Sugar. All my cookbooks are around 200 years old. They are sensational. Just ate raw liver and a steak.
Yup I guess i would have too, I had to go plant based when I learned a of how much more suitable for us humans it is. And when I came across animals agriculture I went vegan. No animals should be abused for our of selfish desires for stuff we don't even need to waste money on.
Been vegan 3 years, vegetarian 11 years before that. It's difficult at first but in time it's so easy. You realize all of the excuses people make as to why they cannot possibly do it and how crazy it is. It boils down to they like the taste of bacon and cheese and they don't care that their health will suffer starting in their late 30s and into their 40s; that they will be overweight and obese; and that meat consumption is an ecological catastrophe--especially via the production of red meat. Who cares about the next generation, right? And of course the ethical question is ignored altogether. Factory farming is mass torture and slaughter no matter how you look at it and the vast majority of the meat eating population would never be able to kill their own food or even watch what goes on in order to provide their McDonald's. The amazing thing is that once you learn how to cook your vegan meals will blow any meat dish out of the water and you will be healthier across the board. For just about any dessert there is a vegan alternative--usually to replace eggs. And they are almost identical in taste. In the end it's about taking responsibility for what you eat and not keeping your head in the sand like I once did. I only wish I had been vegan far sooner.
Great comment. Anti-vegans are good at coming up with excuses to avoid the lifestyle but they have a disease which they may not be aware of called Me first syndrome they have all the symptoms.
Not eating meat doesn't save a thing. All you're doing is wasting the healthy product it leaves behind.
@Shane M self aggrandise much? would you like some sparklers and bunting for your parade?
nice one shane.. ignore the idiots.. spot on comment :)
Eat what you want. My 'excuse' is I like the taste of meat and dairy products.
1min in ... can't eat?!! No, don't want to eat! That's a difference
I say this all the time. I eat all the meat I want, which is none!
I mean as long as people know what she means it’s fine geez
VEGAN HERE!
Why did the Vegan cross the road? To tell someone they were Vegan...
@@glennv3176 old
+Glenn V many stand in the road trying to stop 45 tonne lorries
Congrats
Go vegan, stay vegan.
Veganism is not a diet, it is a philosophical belief that we should reduce the amount of suffering we bring to animals as much as possible(:
The future is vegan❤
Been vegan for 3 years LOVING IT!! 😍😍😍😍😍
Never ever going back to eating animals.
@K. C.W no actually I won't and I bet my life on it, I'm level 4 a qualified nutritionist and a health fanatic, I know I don't need to eat animals for nutrition, heck animals foods are way less dense in nutrients per calorie, I get enough pleasure and satisfaction from eating plants. How can you tell me I will eventually when I am 100% certain I won't? I am ex drug addict I was spending well over a grand a month on drink and drugs including cocaine but not crack or heroin, I quit everything including smoking and drinking went cold turkey and went vegan shortly after. I will never not be a vegan, I don't know why you don't like it but you don't know me so don't assume nothing pal.
@K. C.W actually I have been studying health for over ten years. I have over 10,000 hours of study time in nutrition and health topics, I have read over 1000 studies and the research literature is clear a vegan diet is much better than a diet with meat. All that talk about bioavailability is bullshit. You have no idea what you are talking about
@K. C.W oh and guess what, it's illegal to label eggs as nutritious!!!
@K. C.W animal foods are full of nastiest, toxic forms of vitamin A and heme iron, high in sulphur aminos, high in fat, cholesterol and also there are hazards like choking and eating raw meat.
Meat and insects can be eaten everywhere in the world without transportation or shipping.
Vegetarian plus fish or insects could exists anywhere in the world
Veganism requires mass shipping and mass mono-cropping
Omnivore Diet 250K to 2M years (nearly every single human)
Vegan Diet 80 to 100 years (10% of 10% of any population)
Periods of veganism/vegetarianism (gearing up to run down an animal or long migration) -- it has always been temporary.
According to BLUE ZONE the macro ratio is 70% / 30% veggie / eggs, dairy, meat.....with a focus on locally sourced, organic, whole foods.
All Carnivore is NOT Blue Zone
All Vegan is NOT Blue Zone
Omnivore is Blue Zone
FACTS
It's not that hard actually. Especially when compared to what the environment faces and what animals go through
maybe,if we talk about industrial food
hunting and fishing is better for the environment that buying vegan food
Go vegan
Yes, pls
No
That's what I say but they keep coming back.
no
if you want dairy then you are asking for existence of beef industry...
@Adam A. no there are vegan farmers who use non animal manure also..so there are alternatives
@@Suryapoosarla By non animal manure, I think you mean composting. I would agree with that.
I agree. Dairy is also bad for the environment, human health, and animal welfare.
Most people do not know that dairy cows are forcibly impregnated to get them to lactate. Any male calves so generated are then killed to be sold as veal.
@@sile3505 Your definition of "alot" has alot wrong with it.
Big Tobacco in the 50's " Why you don't need to give up smoking to avoid lung cancer"
Veganism or gtfo
I am glad u understand the main message of this video!
Or Omnivore or GTFO. Not everyone wants to be vegan honey.
@@kayleewilliams1232 not everyone wants to have a polluted world with floods and drouts honey.
Glad this isn't a vegan bashing video. I thought for sure it would be. As far as Mary Beth Hall's argument goes, we as individuals are not deciding what is best for every person. (Not that it's only about human animals, because it's not.) We are rather making a stance as individuals to do what we can, and frankly as a traveller, the African diet is hardly meat-centric. You can easily search this information though Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. South Africa consumed the most meat in Africa by far, and is hardly a fair representation of the African diet. The video footage suggests a Saharan country, among which rank the lowest in meat consumption on Earth. At 7:33 you actually contradict the first concept with the notion that if developing countries consumed meat like yours, it would be bad news to the environment. You show on your graph (which is not of countries, oddly enough) that Africa is at the bottom of meat consumption. It's a diversion. This idea that it's someone else's problem, and someone else's responsibility is getting old. It's our problem, it's our responsibility, and it's something SO EASY to take responsibility for. Moderation is an excuse to justify bad behaviour. I don't litter with moderation, and I don't kill others with moderation.
@William Butler Yeats Tell that to the starving kids in Africa.
@K. C.W the Masai and Inuit arguement is one often used by meat eaters in which by a scientific approach has no merit unfortunately. It's a long tricky subject but just because they have low prevalence for disease doesn't mean that the foods they eat causes diseases. They is much more to it than that. And we are living in the western world where these diseases are all caused by animal foods, which is supported by both the medical and the scientific community. I asked you to read through this article but mainly for the comments section which sheds light on the topic.
nutritionstudies.org/masai-and-inuit-high-protein-diets-a-closer-look/.
@K. C.W sorry but there is and it's called cholesterol mate. I really hope you aren't a cholesterol denialist?
@@123ChrisG the thing is, both of those populations have serious disease patterns, especially the Inuit, who actually reduce their CV disease when they adopt shitty western diets... I think it's Dr. Garth Davis I've seen site the research on this. Also maybe Mic. The Vegan.
@@hannahrl I totally agree 🙏
So, the summary is: by reducing a lot your meat intake, you'll help the environment; by taking away all animal products, you'll help the planet even more.
yup
@@anarchy7741 no, by regenerative agriculture cows will store carbon into the land and where calves will go on to graze rather than being sent to slaughter. This offers far more than what any vegan diet can. Plants don't store carbon.
It's not a 'movement' and it certainly isn't a 'diet'. It's about morals and ethics. Vegans EAT plant-based but you can be non-vegan and also eat plant-based. Whether you're vegan or not depends on why you are eating plant-based, or zero animal products.
Animal products also cause many of the worlds most common diseases.
Seriously?
I agree with the conclusion, we should all reduce our meat consumption.
Yes, indefinitely.
How about we stop raping and murdering innocent sentient beings altogether? Or are your taste buds more important?
No it's not... killing innocent animals for taste pleasure is always gonna be horrible and violent - there are other delicious foods one can eat. Or would you say that slicing a living breathing animals throat is compassionate?
@Jessica Gibson Factory farming animal agriculture is not sustainable for our planet's growing population. Neither is grass fed, pasture raised. For those who are too poor, on land that can not support any other food source, that may be the exception to the rule.
@Jessica Gibson The fact that you can afford to eat a certain way doesn't mean you should. My point is that those of us who can eat a vegan diet should do so. If you don't have the will power, I hope you reduce your consumption, as the video recommends.
"Eat meat responsibly"... just like we should drink alcohol responsibly or gamble responsibly.
They're absolutely *not* industry led lies or anything.
Draw your own conclusions. 😔
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@@nunyadambidniss the most maddest vegan ever
@@Cadeett I'm Anti-Vegan :)
I was showing examples of so called "responsible" meat eaters ;)
There's NO Meat Industry There.
I Eat Meat EVERY Meal, Just like the Tribesmen living their ancient traditional lifestyle :D
@@nunyadambidniss ohhhh ok
There's NO EXCUSE to pay for animal cruelty once you're aware of said cruelty. Listen to the tedX talk "every argument against veganism" (your argument is already addressed in that talk), and watch Dominion to see the cruelty you're supporting and defending as a non-vegan. This is not a diet, this is not a joke, this is a matter of justice.
Many vegans (because we cannot generalize) are hypocrites. They talk about suffering of animals but they have no remorse towards plants. Plants also feel and scream. We just don't hear it. Personally I support any diet that gives you all nutrients (without supplementation) and makes you feel healthy.
Veganism is about you as a person. A vegan is someone that want to make this a better world than it is now. It also teaches you a lot about yourself and life not being about self indulgence all the time.
No it's actually about animal cruelty. What you're talking about is a plant based diet
@@kayleewilliams1232 Actually I am talking about being a virtuous person here, that actually boils down to being an ethical person.
@@kayleewilliams1232 are you attacking your own race because the corn I ate is screaming for help while dissolving alive
Vegetarianism has existed in vedic cultures, for thousands of years in India. Even before Pythagoras.
More vegans mean cheaper vegan products meaning less more expensive flesh options. Bring it on!
Being vegan doesn't mean you can't eat meat. If you are allergic to eggs, you can't eat eggs. If you are vegan you choose not to. It doesn't mean you can't. That is a victim mentality
V-gang now I see clearer
MØSES M v gang 🙏🏻
You don’t have to stop smoking cigarettes to not get lung cancer. Just smoke less. What kind of mentality is this?
@2:50 - fake chicken. I want to know what chemicals they put in it to make it taste like chicken.
It's things like wheat gluten or tofu, with added umami flavours: smoked sea salt, miso, dried mushrooms, yeast, herbs and spice mixes that would be used on chicken for example.
YUCK !!!!!!!
@@sarahb7842 Just Eat THE FUKKIN'CHICKEN.
@@nunyadambidniss There’s nothing wrong with any of the ingredients they mentioned...
@@vanessayeboah2175 When used to make FAKE Chicken there is.
What is better for the environment?
Shipping in chickpeas from India OR
Eating locally grazed beef?
Chickpeas.
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/veganism-environmental-impact-planet-reduced-plant-based-diet-humans-study-a8378631.html
Obviously the locally grazed beef. No question. Basically zero environmental damage done from local, grassfed cows.
If anyone wants to argue, those cows are literally just living their life how they should. If that's bad for the environment, may as well just kill them all right?
@@graysonwing2946 - No Grayson. May as well just obey market forces and stop artificially inseminating them. When you say, 'those cows are literally just living their life how they should' are you talking about how it was before we embarked on our ventures in husbandry? There weren't massive herds of domesticated cattle then. We've created the modern breeds and we've filled every available space with them. There's nothing natural about it.
Also, the livestock animals that are already alive... You do realise that we are going to kill them anyway? You arguing that it's bad news, for them, if we decrease our meat consumption is extremely disingenuous.
It's a lifestyle not just a diet
Its a cult not a lifestyle
Yeah because destroying more land and reducing the water table is going to be better for the environment. Not to mention how unhealthy being Vegan is. I’d rather eat foods that actually have bio-available nutrients instead of chasing imaginary numbers with vitamins and minerals in plant food that most of which doesn’t even break down into your body.
Yeah and vegans say they want to help the animals and want a vegan world yet if we had a vegan world a lot more animals would die and lose their habitats
The only thing that's ethical about veganism is its opposition to factory farmed meat. But you don't need to be a vegan to oppose that.
The problem isn't meat. The problem is factory farming and petrochemical fertilizers. It's totally destructive. Don't eat grain-fed met, eat grass-fed. That methane is climate neutral because grass is already part of the biosphere. If you eat grass-fed you are polluting far less than vegans, without the need for pesticides and all the destruction that involves. And it's sustainable.
The best thing would be if humans abandoned farming altogether, back-bred the pleistocene megafauna and rewilded the land, and once again became part of the ecosystem. That means feeding on local plants and animals. No more obscene shipping of avocados and rib-eyes half-way across the globe. Human population should be limited by the amount of food that is sustainably available locally without using adding fossil carbon into the system.
Unfortunately people are far too ignorant and sugar addicted to see this.
Grass fed cattle grow to slaughter weight more slowly than factory farmed cattle. That means they produce more methane per pound of beef. Besides, there isn't enough grassland available to supply demand as it is. Growing demand for meat will increase the problem. Don't get me wrong. I do not support factory farmed meat. I eat a 100% vegan diet.
@@someguy2135 >Grass fed cattle grow to slaughter weight more slowly than factory farmed cattle. That means they produce more methane per pound of beef.
A grass fed cow is not "producing" methane, it's converting the carbon and hydrogen already present in the biosphere in the form of sugar in grass. It can't produce more methane unless there is somehow more grass. It's climate neutral.
It's humans who are adding hydrocarbon into the system, not cows. However, if you are feeding it grains grown using petrochemical fertilizers, yeah that's not climate neutral. But the grass fed to my cows grows naturally with no artificial help at all. It's the second best thing to eating a wild animal, and far better in every way than all agricultural products.
>Besides, there isn't enough grassland available to supply demand as it is.
Because of farming, the most destructive practice ever devised by H. sapiens. If we never farmed there would be no overpopulation; we would only be able to live sustainably and there would still be vast expanses of wilderness teeming with wildlife. As soon as farming started in the neolithic population grew by a factor of 10 to 100, and then again with petrochemical factory farming.
There is no sustainable form of farming. Farming doesn't solve anything. It's the cause of every single problem.
>Growing demand for meat will increase the problem. Don't get me wrong. I do not support factory farmed meat. I eat a 100% vegan diet.
On the contrary, without meat consumption, we would need to farm more, not less.
Vegans often incorrectly claim that ~70% of the world's farmland is used to grow crops solely to feed animals, and therefore if humans were to stop eating animals we would free up 70% of the cultivated land and would be able to feed more people with the extra land AND have more land left over for wildlife. This is wrong on multiple levels. In reality, today not 30% but 98%+ of the arable land is used to grow crops for human consumption. It doesn't make any business sense whatsoever to grow crops for animals because of the 5:1 caloric conversion rate: for every 5 calories you feed an animal you get 1 calorie from consuming it. However, when you grow grains, most of the volume produced (~70%) is inedible to humans. The seeds are fed to humans (too valuable to be fed to animals), but the cob and the stalk etc are fed to animals. That is where that 70% comes from, the inedible percentage of the volume of what was grown for human consumption.
If we abolished the grain fed meat industry, we would not be reducing the amount of land required at all, on the contrary we would then need to cultivate even more land to compensate for the lost calories (not to mention the nutrients) we would no longer be getting from the meat industry, which was converting those inedible byproducts from our grain production into edible form for humans (meat, dairy etc). But the extra land we would need for this doesn't exist, because thanks to farming there are only small remnants of nature left in marginal lands (mountains, tundra, steppes etc), which aren't very productive or they would have been farmed already. Because humans have to occupy and farm every single square millimeter of the planet.
Without the grain fed animals and the manure which they contribute to the system today, what are you going to use for fertilizer? Go 100% petrochemical? Or are you going to run around in the even more meager strips of wilderness/nature that would remain if you banned meat consumption scooping up poop from the (even fewer) wild animals, thus depriving those regions from their natural fertilizers too? What are you going to do with the corn cobs stalks etc, 70% of what you grew but humans are unable to consume? Don't feed it to wild animals for the love of God, they deserve to eat natural food.
What we ought to do, and I realize it's a pipe dream, is not increase but gradually decrease our dependence on farming, ideally to zero, and rewild most of the planet, ideally all of it. It won't be possible to even start this for about 100 years, not before birth rates will (hopefully) drop below replacement levels *globally*, at which point farming will probably have destroyed even more if not all of what little nature still remains, and it would then take several more centuries for the human population to drop to ideal levels (in the tens of millions or less). It would then take a few hundreds of thousands to a few millions of years for the lost biodiversity to fully recover from the destruction done to it by farming.
I read both of your comments and they are interesting. Do you have any sources on where you retrieved this information? Or some to recommend? I’m trying to learn more about environmental sustainability myself. Thanks for sharing! I also agree that meat eating isn’t the problem. Factory farming is an unsustainable, unsanitary practice. I think the main causes for these diseases are the result of these fertilizers, toxic substances, and other chemicals. I wish people would also eat local foods in season. That would be much better for our environment overall.
@@someguy2135 if a growing demand is also the cause, that means trying to reduce human population overall would bring some good effects to
@@shaderthejavanese702 I agree with your comment, but that begs the question- How? China did that for a long time, but most countries are not authoritarian enough to enforce that policy. China has ended that policy, and other authoritarian countries are not likely to enforce that type of policy.
Advocating individuals to not have children (or even minimize the number) is worth a try, but I think you would agree that convincing people to change their diet would be easier than convincing them to not have children (or even have fewer.) People might agree with the idea of "having fewer children" but how many that would be would be easy to rationalize for each couple.
BTW- Your reply was the first that I was aware of in this thread! RUclips dropped the ball again! I miss so many notifications!
Unfortunately, this isn’t just an animal rights issue anymore. I don’t believe we should look at humans as superior to other animals but for people who do, we are growing all the crops we need to end world hunger and feeding it to animals instead. A great quote is ““Believe me, every morsel of meat we eat, is slapping the tear stained face of a hungry child.” And just to think about that when deciding what you are willingly going to contribute to!
No humans are at the top of the food chain so we're superior. It's fact.
@@kayleewilliams1232 In what way? 🤔
Glen M no one is saying that animals have all the same rights as humans. What we are saying is that we are the same as other animals in the ways that matter. As in, the ability to suffer and ability feel emotions. It’s not justifiable to raise and kill animals when we don’t have to do it. A lion has to do it to survive, but we are not lions.
So if we aren't superior we are the same, an omnivorous animals eat other animals so if you hunt an animal is the same as other animal hunting, so what's the problem? And of there is a problem becouse you think humans should act different, isn't that specism?
@@AriaIndy its not that clear yet, there seem to be people that thrive in a vegan Diet, some other that thrive and then get his health fuckt and some other that just get fuckt for being 2 weeks on it.
Not everyone thrive on a vegan diet and it's not really proven to be for everyone and healthy Long term yet
I would say a flexetafian would be the best, eat the minimal and in a more ethical way.
END SPIECIESISM
What a horrible thought. Eating synthetic meat. And this is how the clip ends as if it was a good thing.
VEGAN from the Philippines!!! There's thousands of us here!!
You shouldn't be worried about the animals losing their lives, but how they live and how they die, in fact we shouldn't stop eating meat, but eat alot less meat.
@@oskar3828 Meat can offer a variety of benefits and nutrients if consumed moderately. The issue is our over consumption of it and the toxic substances involved in its production. It’s not about justification, everyone’s body requires different things and the circle of life requires us to kill and consume other biological organisms for our benefit.
According to the IPCC's, who you are using as a source, direct emissions from all transport (road, air, rail and maritime) are 6.9gigatones of CO2e (14% of all human emissions) while direct emissions from all livestock are 2.3gigatones of CO2e (5% of all human emissions) So how do you get the livestock numbers as higher than transport?
Maybe you should use a professor from a University that actually has an agriculture department & degree to discuss the impact of farming instead of asking a vegan activist physics Professor from Cambridge with no agriculture qualifications or experience?
U forgot to take in account of methane and no2...while methane traps 28 times more heat than co2 it breaks down in 30 years while no2 traps 256 times moore heat than co2 and takes around a century to break (the same amount of time as co2)
@@rajulrathi9886 um no I didn't. You need to do some super basic research into basic climate change measurement terms, such as CO2e. The e in that being "equivelent" ie the numbers I gave include all methane & nitrous oxide in them, adjusted to their CO2 equivalent levels.
While you're at it, you also probably should look at the now conclusive research that shows that nitrous oxide is coming from chemical fertiliser use - you know, the stuff that's needed when you don't use animal manure. There is negligible nitrous oxide from livestock when compared to chemical fertilisers
I stopped at "the sheer volume of meat and dairy that we produce is totally unsustainable and it's actually really damaging".
A lot of great minds between Pythagoras and 1800 AD avoided meat for ethical reasons, as well as some religions and cultures. As others have said, veganism is not about the environment, that is just an added benefit. It is the fact that taking the life of sentient beings that want to live is wrong. Any dog owner knows it is wrong to end the life of a young healthy puppy and this applies to all other species. But if environmentalism gets people on this path that is a good thing.
So you think all life should be valued ?
@@SergyMilitaryRankingsall sentient beings, not necessary all life. We should protect the natural world for different reasons, and value the life of beings that have minds and want to live.
Vegans can eat meat and dairy. We choose not to. There’s a difference. There’s a moral and ethical issue. Watch dominion, what the heath, forks over knives.
Do u not know what a vegan is?
Lab-grown meat is a thing. No land necessary.
Gross.
@@RunninUpThatHillh 9_9 Don't be so squeamish. Lab-grown meat IS meat. Like, the *exact* same thing, excepting now, it doesn't fart tons of methane into the atmosphere while it's growing, and there isn't a whole entire animal who has to suffer imprisonment and death in order for us to enjoy it.
It's like, *the perfect* compromise. Ask your local scientist.
@@TreeHairedGingerAle... Since eating Animal Products has been linked to most of the top Human killing diseases I'd say you have a weird definition of perfect... ;-)
@Oak Tree Exactly. Much less pollution, too.
@@afreakanajepsen2468 where will all the animals go then?? We'll always have meat don't worry. Ever heard of hunting and fishing?
Good topic, this woman is not well informed on veganism tho, be better to have an actual vegan expressing the ideas
Or at least interview one.
Wesley Morton but then the carnists will be triggered and refuse to listen to a snowflake telling them lies about veganism
@@someguy2135 lol um they did! What do you think the physics professor they interviewed is?
A scientist would be better and less biased 👌
Yes we should! It’s only as difficult as you make it be.
Logic
Just because there are some populations of Africans who rely on goats does not mean that most of the world should not go vegan. The vast majority of people can do it easily, and it would benefit their health, the global the environment and the animals.
or just stop eating beef it would get us half way there.
Why do people refuse to talk about the real issue. Over population.
Being vegan is as easy as not being vegan
It is getting easier and easier. More and more products are showing up in the stores, and more and more vegan options are available in restaurants. If you are cooking for yourself, I agree. Once you learn some new recipes, vegan cooking is just as easy.
It's so funny I'm vegan because I just don't think the human body was meant to eat as much meat as is common. Humans are carnivores so it's funny to me when people say "why do vegans eat meat flavored food" Because were born to crave meat. But we weren't meant to eat meat in the amount we do. Our bodies are made to live off of mostly plants and eat meat sparingly.
@AlmondButter Well I actually I meant omnivores. Because we're omnivores.
@AlmondButter Well you'd still be wrong.
Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose
But what if That STILL means using Them for Food Etc. ?
The Vegan Way Does NOT appear Feasible.
It's A FALSE Path.
Humans NEED Animals For Food &More.
I think what is more important than focussing on a plant based diet is to support sustainable farming. Buy local organic and seasonal vegetables, seeds, nuts and fruits when possible. If you are a meat eater chose pastured grass feed meats, free range poultry and wild fish. Avoid factory farmed foods. Being vegetarian but purchasing your vegetables, fruits, grain and soy from huge mono crop industries that grow the same crops year after year, using enormous amounts of chemical pesticides and fertilizers will continue the damage of our soils, water, air, and climate.
All you can do is educate people about the facts. There are other concerns such as health reason and the cancer causing effects of eating meat and associated costs. Some people still think that humans need to eat meat, which is not the case and numerous studies have shown this.
I have no interest in changing anyone's mind. Making people feel guilty or forced to give up meat only makes them dig in deeper. I don't eat meat and never would again (even lab grown meat). Clearly, the meat industry want to encourage people to do so.
Edit: Source info - www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/, although there are a number of similar studies which have found the same.
‘Cancer effects of eating meat’. Absolutely, no credible, scientific evidence to back that, nor any of your ideologically driven, assertion up. You, Sir, are a Cretinous Vegan Cockwomble for believing that it exists.....let alone having the stupidity to broadcast it publicly. Your actions today do not reflect brightly on your upbringing 🧐
@jon smith You spelt it incorrectly. It's spelt F.A.C.T.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah I have no desire in changing anyone's mind but I'll link stuff that shows it causes cancer!
@@AsifSiraj That's not my opinion. Did you read the report in the link, the one from the World Health Organisation? Feel free to enjoy as much meat as you wish, all i'm saying is I dont. Let me know what you think of the report once you've read it.
@@peterreid560 Pleeeeeaaaaaassssse do even the minimal research. The World Health Organization states definitively that red meat and processed meats are class 1 carcinogens, on par with smoking. My dad ate red meat every day and died way too young of colon cancer.
I don't care about the planet. I don't care about myself. I only care about the voiceless masses of animals that can't defend themselves. Vegan Power.
Crazy! People are willing to condemn our planet - for cheeseburgers.
Spoiled, entitled, priveliged, cowardly, snowflakes "But I like the taste of meat & cheese though"😥
I have no problem eating less meat and any more vegetables where refused to give it up completely because that's my choice
Your choice is to needlessly abuse and kill your fellow sentient beings... What makes you think that's a good choice to make for person who wishes to consider themselves sane???... ;-)
We do not need to continue with the needless suffering of animals . I used to love meat but their suffering is not worth it . Vegan four years and loving it
It's not that I CAN'T eat meat...it IS that I WON'T.
NO
Veganism got nothing to do with enviroment its just and all about saving life!
I'm not a vegan but I play one on the interstate and highway.
🤣. Obviously not playing ‘chicken’ as the game is known here in the UK - cos chickens (nor any other animal, as far as I can tell - plenty of videos showing cattle, deer, squirrels, etc. tucking into a bit of meat here on RUclips) ain’t vegtards
Vegans CAN eat it but we CHOOSE not to.
Yeah, yeah... Keep driving cars, take aeroplanes, don't reform industries causing pollution but ban my Sunday roast.
No one suggested a ban on Sunday roast. This video presented reasons why individuals might want to choose to not eat a Sunday roast to help do their part to bring the climate crisis under control. It's not unlike the appeals made during WW2, which many citizens rose to of their own accord out of a sense of duty to future generations.
@Maks - It's not a zero sum; it's possible to do both if you like
Even if you did away with the non food industries such as transport, energy sector, telecommunications, non food retailers, financial services etc without going Vegan 18% of gases going into the atmosphere would still cause climate change. So going Vegan while the majority of the world still eat animal products probably doesn't have that much of an effect in reducing climate change.
Don’t forget lets keep on importing millions of 3rd world people into 1st world countries where they will consume far more.
@@bushwhacked7112 What entitles you to consume more than someone from from the third world?
I don't understand how some vegans don't think meat tastes good though...
Carnivore and loving it!
nice
Being a vegan means no more trips to the garden centre for manure.
I believe historically the first vegetarians were actually vegan and the name vegetarian which was used to describe someone who didn’t eat any animal products later slowly it was hijacked by people who would now be described as vegetarian and pescatarian.
Replace real meat with fake ones? No way. Firstly humans ditched the meat and then feed their carnivorous pets vege also? Insane!
Go plant some trees, which could save the planet.
Stop eating meat, it is the leading cause of deforestation.
Buying meat cuts down a lot more trees than you ever could plant as a single person. 91% of Amazon deforestation is to grow animal feed so that we can raise livestock.
@@DaProHobbit or cut down on human population growth in over populated places like India and China
@@DaProHobbit what about cutting down trees to grow soya bean? Big problem in Brazil!
@@petergordon4525 - To grow soya as feed for livestock. That's what's happening to the Amazon. That soya isn't destined for human consumption.
Going vegan is the single most effective way for each of us to minimize our environmental footprint.
"According to the most comprehensive analysis of farming’s impact on the planet, plant-based food is most effective at combatting climate change. Oxford University researcher Joseph Poore, who led the study, said adopting a vegan diet is “the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth.”
“A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth, not just greenhouse gases, but global acidification, eutrophication, land use and water use.”. -Joseph Poore, Environmental Science Researcher, University of Oxford.
Links at my channel under "About."
Utter nonsense, you are making it black or white, eating meat or not eating meat, we could reduce meat consumption and it would reduce meat production and therefore reduce methane emissions.
I love not needing to rely on big pharma for suppliments i.e. eating organic meat :)
"Organic" label means little when it's the saturated fat and cholesterol that is clogging up your arteries
Also, you still rely on big pharma. The reason vegans take supplements that non-vegans don't is because those same supplements are given to livestock
@@adammajoria9102 I'm interested to know what supplements are being supplied to beef farmers by big pharma?
@@martynLroberts there is a lot of pharmaceutical involvement (especially antibiotics). In this instance, I was specifically referring to Vitamin B12.
@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 saturated fats do what? Update your self
1. Crops need fertiliser and water too. The quality of its source matters more than the quantity.
2. The info graphic of the world showing land use is misleading. It doesn’t actually take up the land mass that was displayed on the map, but the world map was used as a 100% reference.
3. The land used for livestock is traditionally very hilly, non-arable (not suitable for crops), and the soil too acidic for anything to grow.
4. The crops we use to ‘feed animals’ is the tremendous waste derived from the monocultured grain crops we love for both palatability and our economies. Soy, wheat and barley are resilient and versatile in most products we consume. But they leave a lot of inedible fibrous waste that can feed animals very cheaply. This is why statistics will look like we grow these crops mainly for animals.
5. The water used for meat is actually mostly rainfall (“green water”) which does fall in the countries like the U.K. regularly where cows are raised on grass. The biggest populations of cows are raised in sub-tropical areas like Brazil and India, where it rains A LOT. This water was recorded as ‘water use’ in recent studies. But this water is readily recycled and not wasteful compared to the smaller water use reported from crop usage, which is from irrigation and dams - although smaller in quantity, the quality of its use is more damaging.
And yes, the balanced argument is that you cannot judge meat emission on a global scale using the same standards of measurement. If you removed the huge populations of neglected cows from India (who are known for their cow problems surrounding vegetarian diets and not caring for cows who stop milk production), you might solve the global methane problem from this 1 country. If you eliminate factory farming like the feedlots in the USA, you might see a huge reduction in ‘land use’ for global meat statistics, and you would see meat prices become eye-wateringly high, but it may encourage meat to be consumed as a luxury and not like popcorn - the way it should be for health and animal welfare. If you eliminate livestock farming altogether, we will lose touch with our animal kingdom, and give in to the incessant growth of our greed and land-exploitation, driving any remnants of natural herding animals to extinction. Soil health for the planet’s ecosystem and our plant crop truly depend on animals like our cows, chickens, sheep and goats. I personally do not want to see more greenhouse white plastic-covered areas from space like we currently do from Spain!
I got rlly fkn hungry watching this lol.
News flash: cows aren't the only animal that fart
It's so expensive to be a Vegan. I couldn't afford it. My wife is Coeliac and Gluten Free is hugely expensive because of all the trendsetters "going gluten free" which hikes up the price on those who can't actually have gluten at all.
Rice, beans, potatoes are pretty cheap and staples of the poorest countries... Also meat is one of the most expensive "food" items worldwide... ;-)
I know. Companies will hike up the price of anything with the 'vegan' label on it. If convenience is essential - for a vegan it's expensive. What is it that your missus is having to buy that is so expensive? Is it things like bread and pasta? Could she not bring the price down by buying the raw ingredients, batch baking/cooking and then freezing a steady supply? Is gluten free flour a lot more expensive than regular flour? Get her a bread maker and an Amazon 'subscribe and save' of gluten free flour. :)
@Bob Devereux... Way more cheap plant foods than just those and more plants and recipies than you'll have time to try into your life time... You know what they say if your bored then you're boring... Funny how you aren't tired of devouring the same animals over and over again needlessly for way more than a year (likely your whole life)... No offense but you sound like a whiner and not someone who talks with substance behind their words... ;-)
@Bob Devereux... So then when did you switch and become a liar instead???... Also why did you go from smart and honest to dumb and dishonest... Not that I or anyone else has any sound reason or obligation to believe you ever even attempted to become Vegan (especially since you display you clearly never were an actual Vegan since in reality there really is no such thing as an Ex Vegan)... ;-)
Hi Dan, being a vegan for most people is infact much cheaper. Think about it. Which are all the cheapest foods in the entire supermarket? That's right, they're all plant foods. Even gluten free can be cheaper whilst vegan if you plan correctly.
Forgot what society finds acceptable. I make no excuses and I accept the consequences of my actions. I have no intention of becoming vegan simply because I don't feel like it
I don't think I Could ever give up meat completely I could be a pescertarian sorry about the spelling but if you go full vegan there's a few things you missing Iron iodine and and as vitamin b12 I know be gained by taking supplements but is a diet where you need to take supplements is beneficial.
You can get iron from many plant sources like lentils, that's not a problem.
Iodine is as easy to get as using marine salt which has iodine in it. Cheap and requires 0 effort.
B12 is true. It accumulates in your body even for years but a vegan will run out of it at some point and will have to supplement or eat enriched foods every day. What shocked me was that 90% of artificial B12 produced is injected sistematically to farm animals! Apparently soil exploitation has made it poor in cobalt, which is needed for the bacteria that produce B12 to thrive. So our diets will have artificial B12 whether we ingest it through meat or pills.
It is more practical to ask people to reduce meat consumption or becoming vegetarians. While many people turn vegans doesn't mean they going to stay vegan forever. Ex vegans are five times more than Vegan themselves is already a clue that it is a BIG failure.
I am still about to find a veterinarian who is a vegan and an agronomist who has a natural gas powered vehicle.
What's your point?
I have a few vet friends that are vegan
The appeal to futility fallacy is not a new one used against vegans. The truth is, we're not perfect, and our imperfection is no reason for you not to improve yourself. I come from Germany where I own a veganic permaculture food forest. I'm vegan. I don't drive. I take a bicycle, or use public transport. Our public transport is carbon neutral. I grow a lot of my own food, avoid plastics, recycling is the law here, and... yeah... It's easy. I spend New Years Day picking up litter from fireworks, and I volunteer with children. Now, what about you? What are YOU doing to make the world a better place?
Being vegan is quite easy once you get used to it
I consume 2 pounds of meat everyday hahaha
You don't have to save the planet. Save the first person, lose the groupthink and open your eyes. These people are all crazy.
Please watch "Buddha and the animals", a very beautiful documentary about the ethical side of veganism.
Yeah, i hate when people bring up african and tribal communities who are starving,to defend their own, damaging, exploitative, decadent meat eating lifestyle.
I like salads
When im waiting for the arrival of my steak.
@Bob Devereux mushroom sauce
and with the steak, the arrival of early onset heart disease 🤷🏻♀️
@@bblleeppbblloopp totally worth it!!
Reducitarianism is a more rational movement.
I wonder if vegans in the future will care about eating insects.
ScoutiverTTV What's the point of eating insects when you can eat some lovely beans and lentils? A much more efficient (and healthier) source of protein!
@@DaProHobbit Havent tried insects yet, but im sure nothing can beat that crunchy sensation and salt.
Is the life of a cow and an ant equal?
@@BrownCookieBoy What do you mean are their lives 'equal'? They're clearly not the same if that's what you mean, but it's a silly question really. Is my life equal to your life? I'd say definitely not, but I'm quite biased in that regard.
@@DaProHobbit Can i safely assume you kill insects in your home or nearby?
Do you check the bed to make sure there are no bed bugs youre squashing?
Do the majority of animals care about our lives? Nah, why should we care about theirs?
I wonder if they'll care when they discover plants are sentient. Herbalists (and myself included) are on to this fact. All life eats life in service of more life.
Maybe you don't need 2 give up meat and animal products to save the planete-!! ...You must give up meat, fish, sausages, gelatine, milk, and eggs 2 free the animals!!!-!
I'm a treegan, I only eat trees.
Smoke*
Stop killing plants.
Have fun starving
I'm not a big fan of killing animals on mass production....but, but the human animal needs fat, protein and complex carbs in order to be healthy. When that's solved I will be all for it, roll on!! Until then, I eat what keeps me healthy. There are some great, tasty alternatives, but I feel much healthier eating meat 3 times a week.
Vegan farming kills many more animals
@@britishmgtow7251 to be so ignorant to not see the stupidity of what you wrote is an achievement in itself.
Red Meat is as bad for you, if not worse for you than smoking and drinking alcohol is for your health.
@@tomatomode8862 that's not what biologists say.....
@@annonymsurfer3189 thank you. Indeed the ignorance for which you wrote is not seen nor explained, pray do continue.
The choice is between being vegan and being an animal killer, this could be a really easy decision for even pretty selfish people.
fuckfannyfiddlefart Wrong. Vegans cause just as much devastation to the animals and their habitat. Nothing is completely free of killing animals.
@@jackedjackson8007 Your reasoning is flawed. "Any amount" does not equal "the same amount."
The plant based meat that is created in a lab makes me feel like I don’t want to be alive in the future
The only ones who should be eating flesh are the ones who would kill and butcher the creatures themselves or at least be present and witness the act each and every time. Otherwise they are liars and thieves hiding behind filthy money. Dispute that
I would have shared this video if not for the suggestion of only cutting down meat to reduce harm to the planet. There’s no ‘good meat’ just as there aren’t any ‘good’ cigarettes, ‘good’ pollution or good slaughter and suffering.
James Macleod Smh. So brainwashed.
If you can't understand why you shouldn't eat some innocent, lovely living beings called animals, you should live somwhere, that it's dominant creatures think human is delicious and eat you all.
I will never stop eating meat and no one on this planet will tell me what I can and can't eat. Period
Psssh, Veganism is not just a diet. Amazing you didn’t properly research before putting out such a massively edited video.