'What happened to Nigel Farage and Reform UK is a GROSS INJUSTICE'

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  • Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
  • Political commentator, Michael Crick, has said while he doesn't support Reform UK, what has happened to their result at this election is a 'gross injustice'.
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  • @woofolliesmydog8628
    @woofolliesmydog8628 15 дней назад +829

    4 million votes and 5 seats is outrageous!

    • @zog97xy
      @zog97xy 15 дней назад +22

      Cry harder!

    • @msbecks7004
      @msbecks7004 15 дней назад +1

      It is, but 98 second place, the people are behind reform after four weeks of Farage. Nigel, Richard and Lee in parliament will make a shift. I hope they sort out their constituency’s and everyone will be begging for a reform MP. The few, want the top two and most voted to get Tories out and kier got less votes than corbyn. The revolt is on, it’s a win 😊. Let’s go. 😊

    • @truebritishpatriot8375
      @truebritishpatriot8375 15 дней назад +13

      Haha. Good, GOOD.

    • @adamreed3457
      @adamreed3457 15 дней назад

      @@zog97xyyou still being a rat, sad person!

    • @user-pj5ub5cp9k
      @user-pj5ub5cp9k 15 дней назад +11

      Would you like a cup for your tears? 🍵

  • @Wyldfam
    @Wyldfam 15 дней назад +379

    Reform is the only way

    • @truebritishpatriot8375
      @truebritishpatriot8375 15 дней назад +3

      Haha.

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 15 дней назад

      😂😂😂
      You just done it your way and got rexxed.
      I'm the only way.

    • @ianmedford4855
      @ianmedford4855 15 дней назад +3

      If i was Nigel, I'd keep a very, very close eye on Tice... I get the feeling that he'd sell his grandmother for a Knighthood and a cushy position.

    • @AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333
      @AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 15 дней назад +2

      Ahahaha. Reform didn't even cut into the Tories' vote, never mind Labour's.

    • @SadiqAbdulik
      @SadiqAbdulik 15 дней назад +1

      @@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 Labours first election won them 2 seats and look at them now. Reform is new and already has 5 seats and 4.1 million votes. The morons who voted for labour will be on their knees in 5 years time, by which time the country will be well and truly wrecked. Enjoy your nightly prayer calls!

  • @mary.e645
    @mary.e645 15 дней назад +664

    We lost faith in the democratic system, is one of the many reasons why we support REFORM. Reform has done amazingly well.

    • @Happy-go-luckyno
      @Happy-go-luckyno 15 дней назад +27

      I'm proud of what we achieved 🇬🇧

    • @joycegibbs5267
      @joycegibbs5267 15 дней назад +26

      in just a month. It’s pretty amazing. Still upset how unfair that is but we’ve got to take what we can 👀

    • @MrTezcatlipoca
      @MrTezcatlipoca 15 дней назад

      yeah bought in labour for 5 years of 2m per year immigrants til the demograghcs of this country changed forever with the help of farage the est shill,....

    • @chkldstgee2433
      @chkldstgee2433 15 дней назад +6

      @@joycegibbs5267 Why are you folk all suddenly pretending that Reform have only existed for a month?

    • @soot.2146
      @soot.2146 15 дней назад

      So why does " Micheal Crick" keep getting invited back to GB, he's nothing in common with Mr Farage he,s just said he's just a posher type of lefty " anarchist" at Nigel's speech this afternoon, .

  • @kevinwhale2998
    @kevinwhale2998 15 дней назад +102

    Voted Reform even though I knew they wouldn't win in my constituency. Voted with my heart and brain. The revolt has begun.🎉

    • @ianrose56
      @ianrose56 15 дней назад +10

      So did I m8.. Our reform guy had 7730 votes, so I'm happy that I wasn't alone..
      Next time, he'll have more..

    • @christinalayzelle832
      @christinalayzelle832 15 дней назад +6

      Same.

    • @kaseycornflakes1234
      @kaseycornflakes1234 15 дней назад +6

      kevin. Your vote is never in vain because it shows opposition to the `establishment,` and that you broadly agree with the declarations in the Reform `contract.` Therefore numerous votes along those lines tell those in power they need to address those areas of life, or quickly become unpopular.

    • @mjones4083
      @mjones4083 15 дней назад +5

      Same here .

    • @pistol-pete77
      @pistol-pete77 14 дней назад +3

      Same

  • @kaseycornflakes1234
    @kaseycornflakes1234 15 дней назад +344

    Whichever Party you love or hate you know full well in your heart that 4 million votes producing 5 MPs is an out and out injustice!

    • @johnny71c
      @johnny71c 15 дней назад +31

      Well said the system is unfair and undemocratic

    • @ProfYaffle
      @ProfYaffle 15 дней назад +18

      Woulda been 4million and 1if we'd had a reform candidate I my constituency

    • @ianmedford4855
      @ianmedford4855 15 дней назад +11

      100%. No question. Its completely insane.
      But, remember that PR often ends up with ineffectual, weird coalition governments that can't accomplish anything and fall apart in 8 months.
      There's no easy fix here.

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад +2

      Injustice? It is a pretty poor performance.

    • @woofolliesmydog8628
      @woofolliesmydog8628 15 дней назад +1

      @@countfosco8535 Poor performance? 🤷‍♀️

  • @sunshine-qk8qe
    @sunshine-qk8qe 15 дней назад +576

    Lib /Lab received over half a million FEWER votes than Reform , and awarded 71 seats , while Reform is awarded 5 seats . This is a rotten system .

    • @thornbottle
      @thornbottle 15 дней назад

      they were not AWARDED seats, they WON seats, reform won 5 of them, they came 1st place in 5 seats, all the other seats in the country they lost, lib dems came first in 71 seats.
      its that simple, not sure why you people dont understand. its not a referendum where we vote for 1 big issues as a whole country liek Brexit, that only 37% of the population voted for, its lots and lots of mini elections, and then the winners of those mini elections go onto westminster.

    • @pevebe
      @pevebe 15 дней назад +22

      @@user-bf2gt2tf2x Yes they are better at manipulating and conniving

    • @Happy-go-luckyno
      @Happy-go-luckyno 15 дней назад +31

      Not a democracy is it

    • @user-xb9wb8sc9l
      @user-xb9wb8sc9l 15 дней назад +6

      ​@pevebe I'm a reform voter but no-one cheated in this election.

    • @MartinParsons-tr6wi
      @MartinParsons-tr6wi 15 дней назад

      ​@@user-bf2gt2tf2x The establishment have used every dirty trick in the book to cheat

  • @brendawallace4369
    @brendawallace4369 15 дней назад +280

    We need to stand behind Reform it’s our only hope. 🙏🙏

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад

      @contemplating1015 is a bunch of has beens

    • @contemplating1015
      @contemplating1015 15 дней назад +4

      ​@@countfosco8535 we can tell. It's ok...

    • @SuperAd1980
      @SuperAd1980 15 дней назад +1

      I couldn't vote for reform. Tice is still in it.
      I won't vote for them next time either if he's still there.

    • @DC3Refom
      @DC3Refom 15 дней назад +2

      ​@@SuperAd1980 its not about the person , ita about what they standard and what they are for you dont get it

    • @SuperAd1980
      @SuperAd1980 15 дней назад +1

      @@DC3Refom Tice standard's hope snot scate... There leadership is not only run by Labour paid activists but are also ex- skBritish mashional farty, and ex- smashional brount. (very easy to google)
      As soon as they disavow those types, I'd be able to vote for them - not before.

  • @sudenims5235
    @sudenims5235 15 дней назад +93

    80% of the population have not voted for this current government.

    • @Fitlad75
      @Fitlad75 15 дней назад +6

      Half the country chose not to vote 😕 unbelievably

    • @Gazoor2004
      @Gazoor2004 15 дней назад +3

      80% of voters didn't vote for them ... in total its probably - including the ones who didn't vote who I don't get but whatever - 90% of the population!

    • @loud-and-proud-patriot
      @loud-and-proud-patriot 15 дней назад +1

      Electorate you mean

    • @Candolad
      @Candolad 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@loud-and-proud-patriotNo he means the population which includes the over 40% who didn't vote.

    • @chinering23
      @chinering23 14 дней назад

      @@Fitlad75 Nope, some know the system already and it won't be changed because it's by design they always have control. And like you've noticed in previous years those top two are always the same or working towards the same outcome.

  • @mattwalsh3759
    @mattwalsh3759 15 дней назад +276

    Electoral reform is an urgent priority for our country. We cannot call ourselves a democracy when votes are so unequal

    • @johnny71c
      @johnny71c 15 дней назад +10

      Verry well said

    • @Woke_Invaders
      @Woke_Invaders 15 дней назад +10

      @@mattwalsh3759 Exactly. Why make people go to vote if their votes barely count?

    • @AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333
      @AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 15 дней назад +3

      Only because Reform UK lost. 🤣 FPTP is an excellent system compared to PR. Under PR nothing would get done.

    • @Woke_Invaders
      @Woke_Invaders 15 дней назад +10

      @@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 Countries with PR system don't agree.

    • @SadiqAbdulik
      @SadiqAbdulik 15 дней назад +12

      @@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333If you were any denser you’d be concrete. FPTP benefits the Uniparty and not the millions who are represented by so few. I swear you must be a child with your primary school view of politics.

  • @johnmknox
    @johnmknox 15 дней назад +121

    Reform 14% of vote share 1% of seats
    Lib-Dems 12% vote share 11% of seats
    Democracy in the United Kingdom

    • @pam732
      @pam732 15 дней назад +18

      Appalling and unjust.

    • @gredax
      @gredax 15 дней назад

      I guess uneducated people don't know how our system works. How can you get seats if you don't win an area. Maybe they should do better and actually win, truth is reform is basically tories 2.0 so the right wing vote is split.

    • @bobdigi500
      @bobdigi500 15 дней назад +1

      Get over it😂😂

    • @111111877
      @111111877 14 дней назад +6

      @@bobdigi500 No change it.

    • @pizzamad3334
      @pizzamad3334 14 дней назад

      ​@@bobdigi500Seeing the left enjoying themselves, they can be the ones going to war to fight that evil Russia. I'm unrepresented in this country.

  • @user-xj2cb4rv3y
    @user-xj2cb4rv3y 15 дней назад +273

    Over 4million votes and5 MPs a great start with Nigel farage in parliament things will definitely liven up,

    • @user-xj2cb4rv3y
      @user-xj2cb4rv3y 15 дней назад +23

      @@user-bf2gt2tf2x in 2029 general election if labour last that long , it will be between reform UK and labour , reform uk will win

    • @JonHindley
      @JonHindley 15 дней назад

      Was a great result. The touch papers been lit ​@user-bf2gt2tf2x

    • @MartinParsons-tr6wi
      @MartinParsons-tr6wi 15 дней назад +16

      ​@@user-bf2gt2tf2x Farage underestimated the depths of depravity that the establishment would resort to

    • @NPC--666
      @NPC--666 15 дней назад

      Not as big a gaff as your 'glorious leader​' thinking a man can have a cervix, or women can have a 'you know what' @@user-bf2gt2tf2x

    • @ProfYaffle
      @ProfYaffle 15 дней назад +3

      5 independent islamists too

  • @Finfin2506
    @Finfin2506 15 дней назад +167

    We the people demand a referendum now on the voting system.

    • @andrewsmith78926
      @andrewsmith78926 15 дней назад +5

      ...that's not how it works

    • @Appregator
      @Appregator 15 дней назад +12

      @@andrewsmith78926 It's not up to politicians to set up how elections work. That is how it works.

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад +4

      We the people are enjoying a lovely glass of wine right now. And tomorrow we the people are meeting some friends and watching the football.

    • @SuperAd1980
      @SuperAd1980 15 дней назад +3

      The big problem with PR is you will never get to choose your candidate and you will never get a representative.
      You can only ever get the party head office choice who has nothing to do with you or your area and can never be held to account by your area, only their head office.
      You'll never be able to recall them, you'll never be able to remove them, you'll never get to choose them.

    • @andrewsmith78926
      @andrewsmith78926 15 дней назад +2

      @@Appregator actually it is

  • @albertford6073
    @albertford6073 15 дней назад +212

    Reform 🇬🇧

    • @truebritishpatriot8375
      @truebritishpatriot8375 15 дней назад +2

      Ha ha.

    • @SuperAd1980
      @SuperAd1980 15 дней назад +2

      Would have loved to vote for them, but Tice is still in it, so refused!

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад

      Most of them are super-rich men. All men of course.

    • @SuperAd1980
      @SuperAd1980 15 дней назад

      @countfosco8535 and you're upset that nobody will vote for you, a super rich woman.
      Poor you.
      Maggie managed it 40 years ago, what's your excuse?

    • @bobdigi500
      @bobdigi500 15 дней назад

      Reform are gay

  • @anthonyatherton5994
    @anthonyatherton5994 15 дней назад +75

    100% team farage 👏👏🇬🇧🇫🇴

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад +2

      Sorry that you find out this way but you didn't make it onto the team.

    • @anthonyatherton5994
      @anthonyatherton5994 15 дней назад +5

      @@countfosco8535 Labour will be out in less than 100 day with vote of know confident 100% 💩💩🤣🤣

    • @pennymcneela7095
      @pennymcneela7095 15 дней назад +2

      ​@@anthonyatherton5994I agree, there will be MPS looking over Starmers shoulders making sure he doesn't raise taxes and he sticks with his manifesto.

    • @111111877
      @111111877 14 дней назад +1

      @@countfosco8535 You are a very boring TROLL.

    • @Babsza
      @Babsza 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@countfosco8535you're probably one of those sad people who thinks they're funny.

  • @cosmicsodared
    @cosmicsodared 15 дней назад +212

    Clues in the name.... Reform needed

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 15 дней назад

      They're the same party.
      Grow up.

    • @JulieMalone-oy1ll
      @JulieMalone-oy1ll 15 дней назад +3

      ​@@richardgallagher4880 you grow up

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 15 дней назад

      @@JulieMalone-oy1ll
      😂😂😂😂😂😂
      Look who it is.
      The thing that put starmer in office.
      Shame on you.

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад

      I don't need the Reform company.

    • @111111877
      @111111877 14 дней назад

      @@richardgallagher4880 Realy same as what???

  • @karl5395
    @karl5395 15 дней назад +160

    Proportional Representation Now!!

    • @zog97xy
      @zog97xy 15 дней назад

      Not going to happen we don't want fascists.

    • @andrewsmith78926
      @andrewsmith78926 15 дней назад +1

      how?

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад

      LOL join the Lib Dems. They've asked for it for years.

    • @Jetchisel
      @Jetchisel 15 дней назад +5

      Here in Australia PREFERENTIAL VOTING guarantee's the FAIREST DEMOCRATIC RESULT!

    • @davidbarrs9721
      @davidbarrs9721 15 дней назад +3

      Must agree with you big time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @professormcclaine5738
    @professormcclaine5738 15 дней назад +88

    Reform won't need PR for the next GE after 5 years of Labour.

    • @zog97xy
      @zog97xy 15 дней назад +2

      We will make sure you cant get in.

    • @superdeeptom
      @superdeeptom 15 дней назад +13

      @@zog97xy No you wont.

    • @pevebe
      @pevebe 15 дней назад +4

      @@zog97xy We'll rock up with tanks and paras, we'll then see if you're really keen to try that

    • @user-oj4hs3qu1i
      @user-oj4hs3qu1i 15 дней назад +3

      @@pevebeTanks & paras…haven’t you heard that our military is completely and utterly depleted..in its current state it would struggle to fight its way out of a wet paper bag 😂

    • @TheRetroManRandySavage
      @TheRetroManRandySavage 15 дней назад +4

      ​@@zog97xySure you will, sad act.

  • @paul5961
    @paul5961 15 дней назад +194

    THE LORDS NEEDS TO GO, ITS CORRUPT ,

    • @lizevans8043
      @lizevans8043 15 дней назад +14

      i agree it needs to go

    • @AussiePom
      @AussiePom 15 дней назад

      No they need to be elected by the people not appointed by political mates. The Lords has a crucial function to debate government policies and to make changes that benefit the people before those policies become law. Without the Lords the government can enact policies with no push back from anyone. If elected they can be wiped out if they don't do a good job. Appointed they're beyond the reach of the voting public but voting them in ends ex PM's and political mates becoming Lords because the only way to become a Lord is to be voted in by the people in a general election.

    • @ClactonCuun
      @ClactonCuun 15 дней назад +1

      🎉 Nigel is a lefty, he’s no Bert Wilders 🎉

    • @edgar-valentine
      @edgar-valentine 15 дней назад +4

      ​@@ClactonCuunleft of Far Right is good

    • @yvonnerees7589
      @yvonnerees7589 15 дней назад

      👍👍👍👍💯💯💯

  • @pam732
    @pam732 15 дней назад +38

    Lowering the voting age to 16, absolutely pathetic. At 16 if you commit a crime you have to be charged as a child but they want you to vote as an adult. Talk about clutching at straws to stay constantly in power.

    • @alibali672
      @alibali672 14 дней назад

      At least younger people are waking up. We need to keep educating them.

  • @Welpie557
    @Welpie557 15 дней назад +34

    REFORM!!!

  • @neilclarke6419
    @neilclarke6419 15 дней назад +195

    Reform the system gonna be a long road but one worth doing

    • @jbradbury2
      @jbradbury2 15 дней назад +5

      Good words

    • @reinholdmueller4882
      @reinholdmueller4882 15 дней назад +3

      Far too long for Farage as he'll be off to support Trump in the US Presidential election in the autumn.

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 15 дней назад

      Do be so ridiculous.

    • @johnny71c
      @johnny71c 15 дней назад +3

      The people and Reform will get there

    • @sandyno1089
      @sandyno1089 15 дней назад +6

      I'm 79, I hope I live long enough to see Nigel as PM. 🥰

  • @wadoryujujutsukempo6289
    @wadoryujujutsukempo6289 15 дней назад +20

    It is a crap system, when 70% of the country did not want labour, that should be an issue

  • @rogerdodger1790
    @rogerdodger1790 15 дней назад +34

    Keep supporting reform everyone, this is only the beginning. From nothing a few months ago, they got a fantastic result in the highly orrupt system with constsnt snear. They're winning the youth vote and are resonating with a HUGE proportion of the rest of us. SUPPORT REFORM UK

  • @unlikeable8619
    @unlikeable8619 15 дней назад +106

    Labour get a 1.6% vote increase resulting in an extra 211 seats. This is the main reason for such a low turnout. If you want higher turnouts and more public engagement then the electoral system must change to proportional representation.

    • @SuperAd1980
      @SuperAd1980 15 дней назад +1

      God no.
      PR can never give you a choice of candidate and you will never get your area represented.
      You can only ever get the party head office choice, and they will have nothing to do with you or your area.
      They can never be held to account or recalled, only the party could do that, and you could never choose to vote for someone else if the person the party chooses to give you is scum.

    • @johnwilliam1945
      @johnwilliam1945 15 дней назад

      THEY SAY 60% TURN OUT , AS THE OTHER VOTES ????????????????????????????

    • @SuperAd1980
      @SuperAd1980 15 дней назад +7

      @@johnwilliam1945 lowest turnout for 25 years.
      2nd lowest turnout for 100 years.
      How is that not low?

  • @jamessmith84240
    @jamessmith84240 15 дней назад +8

    Half as many people voted for Reform as there were voting Labour. Yet Labour have 411 seats and Reform have 5. That's a lot of people's opinions getting ignored right there. It just breeds even more contempt and division.

  • @DonnaHetherington
    @DonnaHetherington 15 дней назад +58

    What a con if that doesnt show us the systems rigged ffs.

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад

      It's a conspiracy! (clutching my pearls)

  • @sirbollocks5147
    @sirbollocks5147 15 дней назад +33

    not to overlook the fact that Nigel spent many years to bring about Brexit before the referendum they are definitely aware of his abilities to bring about change.

  • @GaryBradshaw-uv4wt
    @GaryBradshaw-uv4wt 15 дней назад +55

    Labour voters you just voted sadik khan as your pm in the future well done starmers weak wef puppet

    • @chkldstgee2433
      @chkldstgee2433 15 дней назад

      They're not the Tories or Reform. They don't swap leaders every five minutes.

    • @TOP.FOX.
      @TOP.FOX. 15 дней назад +4

      Gary I really dont think your far wrong their labour will find a way to get starmer out in 3 years maybe 2 the movement to bring khan in has already started.

    • @chkldstgee2433
      @chkldstgee2433 15 дней назад +1

      @@TOP.FOX. According to who?

    • @GaryBradshaw-uv4wt
      @GaryBradshaw-uv4wt 15 дней назад +4

      @@TOP.FOX. wish i could get a bet on that khan becomes pm in the future starmers weak

    • @GaryBradshaw-uv4wt
      @GaryBradshaw-uv4wt 15 дней назад

      @@user-bf2gt2tf2x you did have a nice day

  • @The_Nowhereman
    @The_Nowhereman 15 дней назад +33

    5 years of hard labour will wake up a lot of the sheep.

    • @user-ou8uz2rn2o
      @user-ou8uz2rn2o 15 дней назад +3

      The only thing is 5 years might be too late to go back....

    • @pennymcneela7095
      @pennymcneela7095 15 дней назад

      ​@@user-ou8uz2rn2oit's never too late.

    • @mjones4083
      @mjones4083 15 дней назад +1

      I wish I believed that , I truly do .

    • @pizzamad3334
      @pizzamad3334 14 дней назад

      Hard labour? I'm going on long term sick. Let the state pay for me to have my feet up.

    • @Zagreus_07
      @Zagreus_07 14 дней назад

      @@pizzamad3334Doubt you do anything productive anyway.

  • @user-lq4vf1ef6p
    @user-lq4vf1ef6p 15 дней назад +32

    I think Reform will make a hugh difference to English politics because they speak the truth and actually.care about the people. Long life to reform.

  • @MorrisGump
    @MorrisGump 15 дней назад +54

    The illusion of believing we have a choice!

    • @davidmoran7270
      @davidmoran7270 15 дней назад

      51% of 27% was a choice to leave the EU!

    • @chinering23
      @chinering23 14 дней назад

      ​@@davidmoran7270 And have we left yet? You can win a vote but they don't go through with it, should have been no deal in 2015, but controllers say otherwise.

  • @matthewstokes1608
    @matthewstokes1608 15 дней назад +67

    We ARE taking our country back!
    Keep watching…
    It’s enough of the cosy uniparty club…
    Starmer is Sunak - what’s the difference???
    Same club.
    We have had enough.
    We ARE TAKING OUR COUNTRY BACK.
    🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
    🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿☝🏼🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

  • @johnhankinson1929
    @johnhankinson1929 15 дней назад +6

    Crick the prick actually said something worth listening to , Reform Uk deserve at least 80+ seats if not more

  • @davidsmith8728
    @davidsmith8728 15 дней назад +67

    When you think of the number of people who died for us in the Second World War in order to preserve and protect democracy and then to have such an undemocratic system prevail in this country is simply disgusting and an offence to all those brave military personnel.

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz 15 дней назад +5

      That undemocratic system has worked for hundreds of years. Each constituency elects an MP. That’s it. Reform have started small but they will build on this in the places they came 2nd and they will grow.

    • @SuperAd1980
      @SuperAd1980 15 дней назад +1

      PR can never give you a representative. You will never be able to choose your MP.
      Only the party head office could choose and they have nothing to do with you or your local area.
      You'll never be able to recall your MP, or even choose not to vote for them if they are terrible, only the party can do that.
      PR would remove any semblance of democracy and flush it in favour of a more communist ideal. Stalin would be proud

    • @jimwhippet3697
      @jimwhippet3697 15 дней назад +1

      It's not the system. It is the 80% who stayed away from the Polling Station.Too feckin' lazy to get off their backside.

    • @davidsmith8728
      @davidsmith8728 15 дней назад +1

      @@jimwhippet3697 And why did they stop at Home ? Could it be the First-Past-the -Post system? Perhaps they thought that their MP was in such a safe-seat that he would get in anyway without them going to the trouble of going to the Polling Station. Or perhaps it was a safe-seat and they thought there was no point in them voting because their vote wouldn't count anyway. We need a change. If we had had PR atthis election, apparently Reform would have won 93 seats - a bit of a difference.

    • @111111877
      @111111877 14 дней назад

      @@mogznwaz It has work against the interests of the majority over the last 50 years.

  • @norabrady9066
    @norabrady9066 15 дней назад +82

    I suspect Nigel will have the last laugh...again!

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад +1

      Saving the NHS is not a laughing matter. Nor is representing the people of Clacton.

    • @norabrady9066
      @norabrady9066 15 дней назад +4

      @@countfosco8535 i am referring to Nigel"s final speech in the EU parliament. Look it up.

    • @paulmoorby2297
      @paulmoorby2297 15 дней назад +2

      The Man's A Laughing Stock ,Ukip,?? Hes A Grifter

    • @111111877
      @111111877 14 дней назад

      @@paulmoorby2297 Silly troll.

    • @paulmoorby2297
      @paulmoorby2297 14 дней назад

      @@111111877 hi ho ho

  • @joyelmes7814
    @joyelmes7814 15 дней назад +9

    If a Reform voter has less value than a Labour voter in gaining seats, is that not insulting, unfair and against their human rights ?

  • @jaysonjames1000
    @jaysonjames1000 15 дней назад +112

    Reform + 4M votes = 4 seats
    Vs
    LibDems + 3.5M votes = 71seats
    Please can someone explain this

    • @hano-boy
      @hano-boy 15 дней назад +17

      they got 5 seats

    • @danielslater8998
      @danielslater8998 15 дней назад +9

      @@hano-boy that explains it.

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 15 дней назад

      Yes you wasters collaborated and legitimised another Eugovernment.
      Well done🙄

    • @galleon1968
      @galleon1968 15 дней назад +5

      google "first past the post v Proportional representation"

    • @patthewoodboy
      @patthewoodboy 15 дней назад

      Lib dems have several core constituencies and they work on them

  • @robotlove62
    @robotlove62 15 дней назад +11

    5 seats with the attack dog ambition, 400 seats with a wet blanket and no ambition. I know which I'm with. Small isnt necessarily weak, not here. Go REFORM give the wet blankets sheer hell !!!!!

  • @cookiemonster2299
    @cookiemonster2299 15 дней назад +52

    🤣😂🤣they think there's still gonna be a UK in five years 😆

  • @Max-im5ru
    @Max-im5ru 15 дней назад +26

    Conservatives should have stood down in a lot of seats for Reform to best Labour.

    • @SAHBfan
      @SAHBfan 15 дней назад +2

      Exactly. They are complaining that Reform cost them the election. How entitled can they be? They continued to fight seats where they knew they had no chance….

    • @gredax
      @gredax 15 дней назад

      the conservatives did much better then reform, why would they stand down, 150 seats vs 4

    • @roman648
      @roman648 13 дней назад

      @@SAHBfanNigel stood down for them to secure a majority in 2019. 2024 they should have returned the favor. They’re so pompus, big headed and entitled. Right wing civil war, Reform will come out on top.

  • @grahambarton8187
    @grahambarton8187 15 дней назад +17

    Come on Reform uk 🇬🇧

  • @tonybain8526
    @tonybain8526 15 дней назад +72

    It’s all wrong that the Tories and Labour will always be the top 2 parties no matter how badly they do

    • @colindingle5459
      @colindingle5459 15 дней назад

      Not if all Brits could see through the "smoke and mirrors" as the 2 main parties are just the 2 sides of one coin who are both slaves to the WEF and have just committed an horrendous crime on the British people as indeed the rest of the Worlds Govts have done ....I'll let you work that out it's not too hard 🤔 but why would you vote for an entity which sh at on u and ur fam. Ily🤔

    • @lesleywild8706
      @lesleywild8706 15 дней назад

      The career politicians have obviously known this for far longer than the electorate.

    • @gredax
      @gredax 15 дней назад

      that isn't even true though, just a quick google will confirm that, you guys are just so dopey you cant even do that

  • @poolsnookered3446
    @poolsnookered3446 15 дней назад +19

    For any party to get two thirds of the seats with a third of the vote means they will have way too much voice. That voice which should be representing others is silenced!

  • @keithsymons5708
    @keithsymons5708 15 дней назад +24

    Such a corrupt system we need reform ?

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад

      do you know what corrupt means

    • @keithsymons5708
      @keithsymons5708 15 дней назад +1

      @@countfosco8535 yes when 4 million vote for a party and only get 5 MPS ? Do you

  • @Trab8900
    @Trab8900 15 дней назад +67

    reform this dump

  • @liamwodz5405
    @liamwodz5405 15 дней назад +8

    I voted reform, but regardless of whether you did or didn't, it is a strange system and hardly democratic when the people speak and they are ignored. Millions of votes and nothing to show for it, making it almost pointless in the first place.

  • @user-js3rg9sj1k
    @user-js3rg9sj1k 15 дней назад +20

    Ya it s rigged.

  • @kellyannpage1469
    @kellyannpage1469 15 дней назад +21

    Democracy what a joke

  • @grey28282
    @grey28282 15 дней назад +57

    4TH July 2024 " Judgement Day " , Labour in Power Forever .
    Boats on the way ,
    Energy Bills will sky-rocket ,

    • @georgerj2419
      @georgerj2419 15 дней назад +4

      Let’s hope so. That will be a lesson to those who voted for labour.

    • @alansalter1836
      @alansalter1836 15 дней назад

      @@georgerj2419totally right they need to see the error of there doing

    • @irenezacharkiw9982
      @irenezacharkiw9982 13 дней назад

      Blah blah blah

  • @ste20ful
    @ste20ful 15 дней назад +76

    It's a pity more people didn't vote reform. When you get the liberal democrats with 71 and reform with 5 with both getting similar votes is wrong 😡😡

    • @SadiqAbdulik
      @SadiqAbdulik 15 дней назад +3

      @@johnkitching2248No because you’d tax that too.

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад

      It's a pity that I was born in the city.

    • @TheSockWomble
      @TheSockWomble 15 дней назад +2

      Reform over 4 millions votes and 5 seats. Lib Dem’s 3.4 million and 71 seats ? Hmmm first past the post is going to get a hell of a lot of scrutiny now and so it should. Only the UK and Belarus use 1st past the post in elections so are we in good company ?

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад

      It's a pity the result for Reform was so sh....

    • @markstevens6568
      @markstevens6568 15 дней назад +2

      The issue lies with the 40pct who didn’t vote at all

  • @janetjarratt7797
    @janetjarratt7797 15 дней назад +16

    Stitch up springs to mind .

  • @laurenruiz4986
    @laurenruiz4986 15 дней назад +18

    It all boils down to the same, establishment politicians ripping off and not representing the citizens best interests

    • @gredax
      @gredax 15 дней назад

      Farage is the establishment. Multi millionaire career politician

  • @klackon1
    @klackon1 15 дней назад +53

    The 2022 Labour Party Conference overwhelmingly decided to legislate for PR as soon as Labour came to power. It also called on the next Labour Government to implement PR in the first term. Hands up all those holding their breath.

    • @gredax
      @gredax 15 дней назад +1

      Is it in their manifesto?

    • @111111877
      @111111877 14 дней назад

      @@gredax What is not in their manifesto is far more worrying.

  • @MrTudwud
    @MrTudwud 15 дней назад +31

    Amazing how the LibNonDems have been very quiet about PR when they get over 70 seats having done sweet FA to get them.

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад

      No, they are way more experienced than the Reform company amateurs.

    • @jonmoll7178
      @jonmoll7178 15 дней назад

      ​@countfosco8535 Experienced at playing the system yeah... The most pointless entity of UK politics.

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 14 дней назад

      @@jonmoll7178 No, not playing the system at all. Playing the system would suggest that the LibDems are getting some sort of advantage out of the current system. They are not. They would much prefer PR but they tried and they can't get it. What they are doing is focusing their energy on those constituencies where they can win. To me that shows experience and maturity. I'd rather have experienced and mature politicians than hand power to the chaos company.

    • @jonmoll7178
      @jonmoll7178 14 дней назад

      @@countfosco8535 You sound like a maoist propagandist 😂😂

  • @user-dm4re8lr6t
    @user-dm4re8lr6t 15 дней назад +21

    That was our last hurrah as sad as it is, four more years of open borders will cement our future

    • @gredax
      @gredax 15 дней назад +1

      don't you lot ever get board of crying about boats and borders.

  • @MarkOffski
    @MarkOffski 15 дней назад +11

    When the LibDems formed a government with the Tories during the The Cameron-Clegg coalition in 2010, the Libdem manifesto promised 2 main things.
    Top of their list was Proportional representation, and Secondly the scrapping of student tuition fees, and when they got the chance to push for both those policies in coalition they did nothing..
    The establishment will to give people fair representation does not exist, why would a bunch of Turkeys vote for Christmas?.

  • @thebiglebowski4309
    @thebiglebowski4309 15 дней назад +11

    100 percent.. its ridiculous

  • @PhilWare1
    @PhilWare1 15 дней назад +15

    The system isnt "working" as it was designed in an era where there was only 2 parties.

  • @janpetersen7440
    @janpetersen7440 15 дней назад +30

    FPTP gives a total distortion of votes percentage parties get vs the number of MPs in parliament. A Labour government with 34% vote support but 64% of MPs in parliament. Totally screwed up.

    • @Woke_Invaders
      @Woke_Invaders 15 дней назад

      ​@@user-bf2gt2tf2xThat doesn't change the fact that it's not democratic, since lots of votes don't count at all. More like a farce.

    • @SadiqAbdulik
      @SadiqAbdulik 15 дней назад

      @@user-bf2gt2tf2xThese bots sure do love to comment utter tripe. I hope the election results don’t keep you up at night.

  • @philmachunt3356
    @philmachunt3356 15 дней назад +17

    Why not have a referendum on PR. Let democracy decide.

    • @MrSirusDvirus
      @MrSirusDvirus 15 дней назад

      We had one years ago but they came up with the AV instead of PR which in itself was so complicated they knew people wouldn't go for it

  • @thatanna23
    @thatanna23 15 дней назад +11

    Proportional representation would suit absolutely everybody from right to left. That way we are all truly represented in Westminster. The only people it doesnt suit is the uni party.

  • @chrisnewman2283
    @chrisnewman2283 15 дней назад +13

    It’s disappointing but it’s the start we were all hoping for.Now Farage has a foothold in Parliament we can look forward to the calling out ot those who don’t like our traditional way of living

  • @juliecarne7706
    @juliecarne7706 15 дней назад +9

    80% didn’t vote Labour! Why have we got Labour?

    • @wc8246
      @wc8246 15 дней назад

      The same reason we got Brexit when less than 50% of the population voted for it

    • @Tom-24-23
      @Tom-24-23 14 дней назад

      @@wc8246😂😂😂😂

  • @rubicon6104
    @rubicon6104 15 дней назад +9

    Enjoy the honeymoon period Labour . 80% of the Country didn’t vote for Labour and they will be out next election. Reform will be taking those Labour votes no problem.

    • @VincentPeters-vs2us
      @VincentPeters-vs2us 15 дней назад

      Therefore 99% of the country didn't vote for Reform Uk by your maths standards.

  • @-liv7
    @-liv7 15 дней назад +20

    It can't be called Democracy with constituencies, we need proportional representation, the way its done with constituencies, it stops people voting as some area's such as mine W. Wirral it's considered a done deal for Labour...hence low turnout.

    • @DonnaHetherington
      @DonnaHetherington 15 дней назад +8

      Same as gateshead . wardley which theyve done nothing for what so ever place is a dump . Plus people say they're all lying bs.

  • @BrianWMay
    @BrianWMay 15 дней назад +11

    We haven't GOT a democratic system. That would entail Proportional Representation and no 'in power' party is EVER going to vote for that. It would ensure they'd be binned next opportunity.

  • @jean-paul7251
    @jean-paul7251 15 дней назад +11

    Yes it needs sorting immediately

  • @disclosed2229
    @disclosed2229 15 дней назад +11

    It won't be long before it's every man for himself...sad times ahead

  • @brendawallace4369
    @brendawallace4369 15 дней назад +15

    Can’t anyone see it’s crooked 🙏🙏

  • @veryhappychappy12
    @veryhappychappy12 15 дней назад +5

    Britain shares the FPTP system with only one European state....That bastion of free speech, electoral honesty and good governance....Belarus. Says it all really.

  • @UKdraxion
    @UKdraxion 15 дней назад +33

    Anyone with a basic grasp of mathematics can see this shit does not add up

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 15 дней назад

      what you even talking about

    • @gredax
      @gredax 15 дней назад

      Did you fail school? It adds up perfectly.

    • @mjones4083
      @mjones4083 15 дней назад +1

      @@countfosco8535 Oh dear , the (should be ) simple (and true ) comment seems to have truly flown (high) above your head .

    • @UKdraxion
      @UKdraxion 15 дней назад +2

      @@gredax Reform got 14% of the vote and got 5 seats, Lib Dems got 12% of the vote and got 71 seat, yeah it all adds up perfectly.

    • @UKdraxion
      @UKdraxion 15 дней назад +1

      @@gredax Oh I forgot Greens 2.9% with 4 votes, yep perfect calculations all round.

  • @superstar7184
    @superstar7184 15 дней назад +6

    Reform UK all the way.

  • @AjG007
    @AjG007 15 дней назад +6

    Reform won 14.3% of the votes cast, which under PR would have equated to 93 seats!! The 5 seats Reform did get is an insult, especially as the Lib Dems had 12.2% of the votes cast and were able to secure 71 seats!!!
    PR is the only fair system that reflects the democratic view of the people.
    Labour won 412 seats (63% of the seats) with only 33% of the votes cast!!!

  • @tiptoptiptop7389
    @tiptoptiptop7389 15 дней назад +5

    Complete joke...the world has changed but government has stood still...

  • @EnjoySynthSounds
    @EnjoySynthSounds 15 дней назад +6

    So we agitate for proportional representation, and demand a referendum vote.

  • @pam732
    @pam732 15 дней назад +15

    It’s time for proportional representation and goodbye to first past the post. It’s unfair and disgraceful.

  • @Eric_3867
    @Eric_3867 15 дней назад +5

    We should raise a petition to ensure parliament debate this injustice and go for proportional representation.

  • @ydonin9663
    @ydonin9663 15 дней назад +8

    Probably first time ever I have agreed with Crick.

  • @drumvc8060
    @drumvc8060 15 дней назад +26

    Of course it's ridiculous, outrageous in fact

  • @ApexCypher_
    @ApexCypher_ 15 дней назад +6

    The system is RIGGED.

  • @Numbnuts-
    @Numbnuts- 15 дней назад +10

    Labour has never been an opponent, just a act .

  • @seanwhitfield4581
    @seanwhitfield4581 15 дней назад +3

    Our system is a disgrace! Of course there should be PR, more importantly we should have Direct Democracy, similar to Swiss.

  • @Happy-go-luckyno
    @Happy-go-luckyno 15 дней назад +13

    2nd in 99 areas,,,,, watch this space ❤

  • @dazjackson1972
    @dazjackson1972 15 дней назад +10

    This would be cause for much rioting, if a Right Wing party achieved such a majority on a flimsy vote share.

  •  15 дней назад +4

    Reform need to cosy upto industrial unions , and promise to bring back steel manufacture

  • @wardropper
    @wardropper 15 дней назад +7

    No point in complaining now. This has been a problem for decades. We vote in elections, but we don't have a say in how the system actually works. Hint: It doesn't work in our favour...

  • @alexandru5369
    @alexandru5369 15 дней назад +5

    yeah even people who hate reform are saying this is bollocks. They got hosed, pure and simple

  • @grahamcoulter2610
    @grahamcoulter2610 15 дней назад +5

    Don't forget that Jim Alistair TUV got elected. TUV is in a pact with Reform, so maybe 6 MPs in Westminster .

  • @TAER99
    @TAER99 15 дней назад +6

    How is this fair?

  • @Bloodline2009
    @Bloodline2009 15 дней назад +5

    A Referendum on a version of PR must be on the cards. It's been going on for far too long. AV in 2011 was not it.

  • @Markus_Aurelius1
    @Markus_Aurelius1 15 дней назад +35

    It's called British Democracy 😂😂😂😂

    • @countiblis1246
      @countiblis1246 15 дней назад +4

      And the winner of oxymoron of the day goes to....

    • @Markus_Aurelius1
      @Markus_Aurelius1 15 дней назад +2

      @@countiblis1246 Goes to Count Tiblisi

    • @seniorslaphead8336
      @seniorslaphead8336 15 дней назад

      Reform UK are the only crowd who might get into power under the First Past The Post system and then change it. Not because it would then be in their interest but because they have principals, something that is absurdly alien to the Uniparty.

    • @LunaticAsylum01
      @LunaticAsylum01 15 дней назад

      That doesn't make it any good.

  • @edwardlewis7468
    @edwardlewis7468 15 дней назад +5

    What can us common people do about this? We are not getting a demoncratic result! Petitions, referedum?? REVOLT?

    • @Starlight22215
      @Starlight22215 15 дней назад +1

      I’m for Revolt. Time people woke up and took some responsibility for allowing this nonsense to continue.

    • @Lillilady888
      @Lillilady888 14 дней назад

      Sure this will be raised in parliament A LOT from now on 😅

  • @daffyddduck2419
    @daffyddduck2419 15 дней назад +4

    It just shows what an unfair electoral system we have and now Labour have a massive majority they will have the mandate to push through whatever they want to , it’s frightening

  • @marvinc9994
    @marvinc9994 15 дней назад +4

    The only REAL question about reforming our electoral system (unless you're living in the Age of the Dinosaurs) is WHICH PR system to choose. The current 'Plurality' system has surely had its day. In my constituency, for example, the local Tory candidate and sitting MP received just 40% of the vote - which means, of course, that 60% voted AGAINST here (a similar percentage to those Germans voting against Hitler in 1933) - which doesn't seem terribly fair, somehow. If we had an Alternative Vote system, we'd probably have a higher turnout, with more people thinking their vote 'counted'. The fact that Reform, for example, had to 'pay' *800,000* votes per seat, whereas Labour needed only 23,605 (a generous 'discount' of 97%) alone demonstrates that the system is now as rotten as the 'Rotten Boroughs' of the past. Reform urgently needed!

  • @msbecks7004
    @msbecks7004 15 дней назад +8

    We need a republic, vote for your local MP and a separate vote for the PM.

  • @stevenfz5296
    @stevenfz5296 15 дней назад +39

    Can’t change the voting system till you get rid of the House Of Lords.

  • @richardgallagher4880
    @richardgallagher4880 15 дней назад +18

    Yes given millions instead of put on trial.

  • @we4r119
    @we4r119 15 дней назад +2

    If Labour reduces the voting age to 16 year olds, then they need to increase the salaries, because I think it grossly unfair, that a 16 year old can do the same job as a 25 year old and be paid £2 - £4 less per hour. I'm referring to low skilled and unskilled jobs here. I've come across many teenagers helping support their families financially or having to pay for themselves because they have rent and living expenses. These salaries need to be equal for all ages. In retail, I've witnessed young people on low salaries (below the living wage) take on more responsibility than older people. Labour needs to address this if they are, as they claim, a party for the working class and they want that teen vote.

  • @davidagnew6191
    @davidagnew6191 15 дней назад +4

    Yes, a very simple and easy reform would be to simply allocate the seats in the House of Lords in proportion to the general election result. It could be done now. Why not?

  • @TheGeo190
    @TheGeo190 15 дней назад +8

    be careful what you wish for. PR is a route for islamist in parliament.

    • @trevorhinkley2291
      @trevorhinkley2291 15 дней назад

      Not if we STOP people from the Medieval Death Cult entering the country and ensure that Sharia brides here, (not the real /legal wife), get NO child benefits nor any housing benefit!

    • @loud-and-proud-patriot
      @loud-and-proud-patriot 15 дней назад +1

      So is first past the post