Why do Japanese saws cut on the pull stroke rather than the push stroke?
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- As you know, Japanese saws have a completely different design from western because they cut on the pull stroke, rather than the push stroke. Why is that so? What is the origin of this? Today I will explain it to you.
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Love the attention to detail and the quality work that is put into these tools. It’s a joy to watch old craftsmen at work.
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Fantastic craftsmanship in making those saws.
A Japanese saw is my go to saw every time....so very nice to use.
I literally just bought a japanese saw because of this video and my frustration with trying to make wooden accessories with a regular one.
This is the kind of master craftsmanship you don't see very much in the US any more. I'd rather pay through the nose for something I know I'm going to use a lot because I know it was exceptionally made and cared about, than to pay pennies for something that nobody really cared about when it was made.
Simply not true. Plenty of master craftsmen and craftswomen in USA. And you can pay hundreds of $$ or ££ on western saws that are crafted to be brilliant just as you can buy a set of pull saws for a very few $$ or ££ which will last a short time and be almost impossible to maintain. It's quite easy to improve a cheap western saw with a cheap saw setting kit
People’s arms are naturally stronger on pull. A push places stress on my wrist, my hand. Body seems more likely off-balance if I do push only. As for saw breakage some Japanese saws have reinforced spline. With western or Japanese saws, I am learning importance of body posture and body letting saw do the work.
I will carry this information with me the rest of my days
more control and more power on pull stroke (no pun)
The Japanese Saw cuts in tension……..Most of us have experienced a western saw buckling in a tight cut… …as a professional woodworker I prefer the Japanese saws.
If a western saw is buckeling in the cut, it is normaly because its teeth are not set correctly.
great comment sir, I have struggled with a Stanley saw several times, It works well on Japanese softwood though
Bad workman blames tools. Both types can be good and both types can be bad and good workers can usually prepare cheap western saws to function well (if not costing the time to do so). Cheap pull saws much harder to improve. Both types have their place in a workshop
@@WoodworkingEnthusiasts I think we should also differentiate between what Japanese saws are available on western markets - these are usually not hand-forged saws like the ones shown in the video. I fitted my sister-in-law's apartment with baseboards (made of beech) a few years ago and made the cuts with a Japanese saw that cost around $ 20. It worked, but the saw had a few fewer teeth afterwards. It would have been a bit slower with a western saw, I would have had to re-sharpen the saw once or twice while I was working, but I would still have had a working saw in the end.
Much finer and more precise control. Japanese saws are so much superior to Western style saws in every way and so much cheaper than big name saws that cannot match Japanese saws in any way.
Just going on THE PULL in Japan.
My lovely Chinese Wife may get upset.
I have used one they are great.
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like the song says they do it right just do it, do it right just do it, just do it right do it right
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That's a pretty dumb question. Because that's what Japanese saws do. That is why we call them Japanese saws. They cut on the pull strokes.
Which is a much better way to saw.
Yes and no, it's really just different with different pros and cons. Like Japanese saws can be better for beginners as it's easier to stay on course once a cut is started but it's harder to adjust if you're off your mark than a western saw that gives you more control but just requires more skill to use it. Among other differences...
Much like using guides to sharpen vs freehand, the later requires more skill but once you develop that skill you can do it a lot faster and easier than the former... A lot just depends on how much time and energy you want to invest into your work and what you prefer to focus on...
Like you can resharpen a western saw pretty easily but you may prefer to just replace the Japanese saw blade rather than develop the skill to sharpen it, which for Japanese saws is harder and requires specialty tools...
@@ZeoCyberG the question was not a yes or no question, it was why do X do it one way Y do it another. Which to me makes no sense at all.
@@jessjulian9458 But that's how it actually works... You want more control or less, precision or flexibility, speed or accuracy, etc. Everything is a choice and the tool you prefer reflects those choices...
@@ZeoCyberG i understand, but that doesn't address the question. I know how they work, I own several. I also have a woodworking shop.
Stay safe buddy.
@@jessjulian9458 No, it does answer the question. You're just not understanding how it applies but that's the reason for every tool design. So just look at Japans history for the rest of the answer... Like how metal was a much rarer commodity, preference for sitting while woodworking effecting what ergonomics work best for their style of work, the difference in their style of woodworking and what they actually were making, the difference in the types of trees they had access to, etc...
Tools are often just a reflection of the environment and conditions they were developed in...
If you’re putting down our saws get your directions straight ,we are not west of China we are east of China, so you should say European saws that’s where the saw came from ,the first saw that is.We just copied it. And improved on it of course.
So, if picking up your saws, does that change the direction to a curve?
Just use laser cutter . It’s 2022 not 1722
Back in the day they weren’t bright enough to invent a sawmill as we Americans did
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