This is my favorite of this particular rant series! Your artist's perspective and calling on Zaccheus was so helpful and you and Father articulated your points completely in a spirit of charity! Im not exaggerating, this was agreement 100% start to finish for me!
Great stuff. I really appreciate you doing sections of the hours in Latin. I think too that this method (ordinary in Latin and propers in vernacular sort of thing) helps actualize what sacrosanctum concilium was trying to accomplish when it comes to use of Latin and the vernacular.
I really appreciate all you are doing to explain LOTH, liturgy and Latin! Take an hour, don’t dumb it down, I’ll just keep listening until it sinks in🤓🙏
Hey just found this channel, great stuff love it. Also randomly I studied with Fr. Nate in graduate school in Boston. I always appreciated his words in classes and now online. Great works guys love to see it!
Thank you for singing in Latin. If anything I would want more latin/english captions. Or mass sung, even novus ordo, in latin with english transcripts so I can learn all the parts. A question I have is what do the asterisks, and dagger looking symbols mean? The crosses mean to cross yourself correct? Ive tried to find this answer in the about sections of your videos. Im sure im not the only person who has asked this. Maybe add it to the info? Thanks for all you do.
We look at a flower and say oh wow beautiful! Then we start exploring WHY the flower is beautiful and we get awe struck and amazed!. So it is with all I learn about "sing" and "Latin" and the history and the why we do it this way. I just continue to be thrilled.
When you started -- Liturgy of the Hours, you chose Sing the Hours. And the backstory and emphasis was to make accessible singing the Hours and rather than "saying" the hours. You focused on accessible chant forms such that became easy to let the Lord, open my lips and my mouth with proclaim your praise. The Liturgy moved from silent and interior -- the repetition of simple chant forms didn't shame the lowly. Then-- the chant forms got more complex -- and notation was added to the screen -- Then you added chants and rants and I spoke up then saying don't get distracted. Then -- it became about adding more and more and more Latin -- sending people back into silent interior -- because now you had to read the screen. This is Liturgy of the Hours, prolongation of the Eucharist, the Sanctification of Time. For some of us, this is it. There is no priest, no church, no community - Liturgy of the Hours -- is it! I have seen this happen again and again... what began as accessible and participatory for the homebound moves out of our capacity to participate by the choices made by those who began as ministry then moved to monetize it by selling CD's and books and then courses and classes. What they offered then became more "special" to build the brand. Meanwhile it has taken 60 years to put a month of Liturgy of the Hours into the hands of the wee folk for a mere $7.00 vs the $178 leather bound clerics only offering. Our chanting simple chant to sing the Psalms is now not good enough. So, we stop. Our singing of a hymn isn't good enough unless it is a hymn in Latin. So, we stop. And memorized is better... And memorized in Latin is better still... he says to people who are working hard to remember their grandkid's names. We cling to the stuff we have etched in brain muscle memory. Not to mention the silliness as you two do potato pahtatoh over Latin pronunciations and name drop Dante and Ovid -- really? It comes across as a betrayal of trust. 71.5 million entering the Palm Sunday of their Holy Week, approximately 13.1 million are cradle Catholics... we are gradually not roadworthy enough to be pew people and a pew isn't where we are going to live into our Good Friday.
Interesting that you say that people use Sing the Hours to learn English. I have used it to learn Latin. I'm going to talk to my local priest about petitioning the Holy Father to say all masses in the Vatican in Latin.
When Paul, killed Stephen the crowd threw down their cloaks to honor him. He followed the letter of the law, dotted every i and crossed every t. He was right. His take on the law... spot on. He killed many many followers of Christ all with the support, approval and encouragement of many powerful people. And yet! When Our Lord Jesus Christ humbled him he did it with a question... Why are you persecuting me? He didn't accuse him of breaking the Mosaic Commandment Thou shalt not kill. Though he'd kill a lot of people... Our Lord asked "Why are you persecuting me?" To have the Cross of Christ Jesus, there must be both the Vertical and the Horizontal. The Liturgy is both Union and Communion... Praise and Worship - yes. It is also Communion... Communion with the least of these... Jesus washed some stinky dirty feet on the same night he was betrayed. He stripped down, wrapped a towel around his waist... those were the vestments he chose. So when you were asked to Proclaim the Word of God as Lector for a Mass at the Vatican you "refused" because your take on the GIRM didn't square with theirs. And you turn off the mic when you cantor because you want them to lean in and so ignore that more than 20% of the people in the pew have some degree of hearing loss especially those old folks in the back pew... And when someone is able to minister in English as a fruit of praying Liturgy of the Hours -- you're not helping that happen... Paul Paul Paul.... why?
@@danmarino4223 Paul is a Forensic trained belly breathing dude who with full wattage could be heard halfway across the church parking lot. The point he made was that he intentionally turned the mic off to make him harder to hear. Hearing loss is real. Hearing loss marginalizes. Hear loss leads to experiential exclusion. Me on headphones, I can hear. Online access enables inclusion by increasing type size for vision impaired. Volume for hearing impaired. And for us with loss of mobility! ... yes well... have the experience and you will understand.
@@danmarino4223 Paul is a Forensic trained belly breathing dude who on full wattage can be heard half way across the church parking lot. He intentionally turned off the mic to make him harder to hear. Hearing loss is real. 1 out of 5 have some level of hearing loss. Few churches offer hearing assisted tools linked to the mic. Some, if you wear earbuds and they are live streaming then you can hear. I am not picking a nit -- I am representing people who don't have a voice in these issues. And for most parishes if we are NOT in a pew -- we don't exist. We are not nones - we just got old or have disabilities that leave us de-pewed.
I get that chant isn't made to sound good in English, but to be fair, no liturgical music sounds good in English, and translated chant is epochs better than all the liturgical gay showtunes, Christian soft rock, and variations on the happy birthday song/Brady Bunch theme we currently have to put up with. If the Latin is the sticking point for the boomers in a parish, I'd rather have English chant than no chant at all. The Ordinatiates have quite the tradition of doing just that.
This is my favorite of this particular rant series! Your artist's perspective and calling on Zaccheus was so helpful and you and Father articulated your points completely in a spirit of charity! Im not exaggerating, this was agreement 100% start to finish for me!
I'm very happy that you use Latin, it just lends itself to the sacred!
Great stuff. I really appreciate you doing sections of the hours in Latin. I think too that this method (ordinary in Latin and propers in vernacular sort of thing) helps actualize what sacrosanctum concilium was trying to accomplish when it comes to use of Latin and the vernacular.
I love the Latin. Please continue as is.
I really appreciate all you are doing to explain LOTH, liturgy and Latin! Take an hour, don’t dumb it down, I’ll just keep listening until it sinks in🤓🙏
Oh if so many more could hear this Truth about the Beauty that is a pure path to worship our Lord.
Hey just found this channel, great stuff love it. Also randomly I studied with Fr. Nate in graduate school in Boston. I always appreciated his words in classes and now online. Great works guys love to see it!
Thank you for singing in Latin. If anything I would want more latin/english captions. Or mass sung, even novus ordo, in latin with english transcripts so I can learn all the parts. A question I have is what do the asterisks, and dagger looking symbols mean? The crosses mean to cross yourself correct? Ive tried to find this answer in the about sections of your videos. Im sure im not the only person who has asked this. Maybe add it to the info? Thanks for all you do.
We look at a flower and say oh wow beautiful! Then we start exploring WHY the flower is beautiful and we get awe struck and amazed!. So it is with all I learn about "sing" and "Latin" and the history and the why we do it this way. I just continue to be thrilled.
Lovely explanation. Thank you Paul and Father N. ❤✝️❤️
Thank you 😊 🙏 may God bless you and grant you your dreams
I love hearing the Latin. It is so holy 🕊
Agree! I find myself singing in Latin during the day. I have learned so many prayers in Latin too. God bless you all at Sing the Hours!
Thank you !!
Thank you for these videos! They've been really informative. I've learned a lot.
When you started -- Liturgy of the Hours, you chose Sing the Hours. And the backstory and emphasis was to make accessible singing the Hours and rather than "saying" the hours. You focused on accessible chant forms such that became easy to let the Lord, open my lips and my mouth with proclaim your praise. The Liturgy moved from silent and interior -- the repetition of simple chant forms didn't shame the lowly. Then-- the chant forms got more complex -- and notation was added to the screen -- Then you added chants and rants and I spoke up then saying don't get distracted. Then -- it became about adding more and more and more Latin -- sending people back into silent interior -- because now you had to read the screen. This is Liturgy of the Hours, prolongation of the Eucharist, the Sanctification of Time. For some of us, this is it. There is no priest, no church, no community - Liturgy of the Hours -- is it!
I have seen this happen again and again... what began as accessible and participatory for the homebound moves out of our capacity to participate by the choices made by those who began as ministry then moved to monetize it by selling CD's and books and then courses and classes. What they offered then became more "special" to build the brand. Meanwhile it has taken 60 years to put a month of Liturgy of the Hours into the hands of the wee folk for a mere $7.00 vs the $178 leather bound clerics only offering.
Our chanting simple chant to sing the Psalms is now not good enough. So, we stop. Our singing of a hymn isn't good enough unless it is a hymn in Latin. So, we stop. And memorized is better... And memorized in Latin is better still... he says to people who are working hard to remember their grandkid's names. We cling to the stuff we have etched in brain muscle memory. Not to mention the silliness as you two do potato pahtatoh over Latin pronunciations and name drop Dante and Ovid -- really? It comes across as a betrayal of trust.
71.5 million entering the Palm Sunday of their Holy Week, approximately 13.1 million are cradle Catholics... we are gradually not roadworthy enough to be pew people and a pew isn't where we are going to live into our Good Friday.
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Interesting that you say that people use Sing the Hours to learn English. I have used it to learn Latin. I'm going to talk to my local priest about petitioning the Holy Father to say all masses in the Vatican in Latin.
Beauty is the language of God - sadly overlooked in our utilitarian world.
When Paul, killed Stephen the crowd threw down their cloaks to honor him. He followed the letter of the law, dotted every i and crossed every t. He was right. His take on the law... spot on. He killed many many followers of Christ all with the support, approval and encouragement of many powerful people. And yet! When Our Lord Jesus Christ humbled him he did it with a question... Why are you persecuting me? He didn't accuse him of breaking the Mosaic Commandment Thou shalt not kill. Though he'd kill a lot of people... Our Lord asked "Why are you persecuting me?"
To have the Cross of Christ Jesus, there must be both the Vertical and the Horizontal. The Liturgy is both Union and Communion... Praise and Worship - yes. It is also Communion... Communion with the least of these... Jesus washed some stinky dirty feet on the same night he was betrayed. He stripped down, wrapped a towel around his waist... those were the vestments he chose.
So when you were asked to Proclaim the Word of God as Lector for a Mass at the Vatican you "refused" because your take on the GIRM didn't square with theirs. And you turn off the mic when you cantor because you want them to lean in and so ignore that more than 20% of the people in the pew have some degree of hearing loss especially those old folks in the back pew... And when someone is able to minister in English as a fruit of praying Liturgy of the Hours -- you're not helping that happen...
Paul Paul Paul.... why?
If you’re singing properly, everyone will hear just fine. I think it’s better to support good work rather than try to nitpick.
@@danmarino4223 Paul is a Forensic trained belly breathing dude who with full wattage could be heard halfway across the church parking lot. The point he made was that he intentionally turned the mic off to make him harder to hear. Hearing loss is real. Hearing loss marginalizes. Hear loss leads to experiential exclusion. Me on headphones, I can hear. Online access enables inclusion by increasing type size for vision impaired. Volume for hearing impaired. And for us with loss of mobility! ... yes well... have the experience and you will understand.
@@danmarino4223 Paul is a Forensic trained belly breathing dude who on full wattage can be heard half way across the church parking lot. He intentionally turned off the mic to make him harder to hear. Hearing loss is real. 1 out of 5 have some level of hearing loss. Few churches offer hearing assisted tools linked to the mic. Some, if you wear earbuds and they are live streaming then you can hear. I am not picking a nit -- I am representing people who don't have a voice in these issues. And for most parishes if we are NOT in a pew -- we don't exist. We are not nones - we just got old or have disabilities that leave us de-pewed.
I get that chant isn't made to sound good in English, but to be fair, no liturgical music sounds good in English, and translated chant is epochs better than all the liturgical gay showtunes, Christian soft rock, and variations on the happy birthday song/Brady Bunch theme we currently have to put up with.
If the Latin is the sticking point for the boomers in a parish, I'd rather have English chant than no chant at all. The Ordinatiates have quite the tradition of doing just that.