I remember when Top Gear tested the Veyron and said "The tires will explode after 15 minutes at this speed, but don't worry, it'll run out of gas in 6." (Something like that). That car is so insane.
Not practical whatsoever in my opinion for Civilian Use, I mean if you needed to get from point A to point B on a perfectly asphalted landscape it is but really? Do you need the power of 1,000 horses? Does anyone even need 300 horses? or 200? I am imagining scenarios in my head from centuries ago, a Horse carriage just thundering away with 200 horses in front of it.
Couldn’t even if I wanted- the smart electronics would just shoot the car forward instead of making me look good while trying to do burnouts in front of a crowd... or dumb... Probably dumb.
Nah. The real reason isn't even mentioned here. What is it? Economy of scale. In order to make these, the manufacturer must maintain a special production line with special equipment and specially trained personal all to produce a very low volume item. The initial cost of engineering an object, engineering the facility and equipment to make an object and building the facility and equipment to make the object is shared across the number of objects to be produced. So your break even point is (upfront investment + overhead) / units produced. From there, it's easy to see why a common tire that is produced in a volume of about a hundred million units per year is much cheaper than a tire that is produced in a volume of around 3000 units per year.
About 3 years ago I work at a Honda dealership as an alignment tech (later moved up to a PDI tech before moving onto another job). I remember anytime a main tech would bring over a 2010ish looking Odyssey, I knew they did the PAX wheels and I knew I was in for fun time. The sensors used for alignments usually just connect right at the edge of the wheel where the wheel met tire. Not on a PAX tire. The sidewall stuck out so there was no space to stick the sensors. So we had to get these huge clamps and clamp down in the tire tread and then connect the sensors to those, and the thread connector usually wasn't as firm as the wheel connector, mostly because if you went too tight you'd puncture the tire. The rest was smooth sailing. I remember those tires costing like $350 a piece too.
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Dad had some 17-18yr old 33x12.50 Khumos for awhile they had some minor dry rot but they worked well. Replaced a little before the tread wore out to “be safe” though.
The glue on the wheels is there also to keep the wheel from spinning inside of the tire because it has so much torque and horsy powers!! F1 McLaren back in the day it was somthing crazy like 40-50 grand to change the tires also, but part of the cost was after they installed the tires they went out on a track to setup and readjust all of the F1 cool stuff like suspension and psi, lol. I dont remember for sure if they had a track to do this on or if they rented one but either way they had to have an ambulance on standby at the track with a crew as they were doing the driving to make the F1 perform like an F1!! It was mainly due to insurance reasons to have the ambulance and i think a fire truck also now that i think about it? There is a few videos covering it if you look for them. Not anything to do with the Bugatti but i thought it was cool and wanted to share is all!! Have a great day!!! :)
Not only that, but I'm sure that, if you want them to be properly mounted and balanced, you take that thing to Bugatti, and not your local Mom-and-Pop tire shop.
Michelin: develops star rating system to sell more tires Firestone: profits Michelin: what? Michelin: creates bespoke metric wheel and tire combinations (TRX) for better handling. Every other tire company: Makes it cheaper, better, and more reliable Michelin: Stop it guys!!!! Michelin: TRX take II, hyper bougie boogaloo Every other car company: When will you learn old man!?
I was talking to a guy about this tyres, you couldn't make this day even more special : The video was uploaded on my birthday (september 22nd). THANKS DONUT !! YOU GUYS ROCK THE BLOCK
Not really. You can swap a dulley rim with a super single and be 17”wide. Look up Michelin X one tires for reference. Might be cross technology infused.
I did this in my mustang as well in the rain was at a stop had to get onto a big road accelerated too apparently because my back end ended up in the left lane luckily the extensive test of my tires that had caused this taught me how to safely handle it but no one drove any where near my car after that
Fun Fact: The 2007 Honda Odyssey Touring also had a Michelin PAX tires. Though they were not as expensive as these Bugatti tires, they were still very expensive.
I'd bargain a ton of the cost is from R&D. Think about it this way: there's 2 main categories to determining the manufacturing cost of an item: investments and materials. Material cost is probably a bit higher than other tires, since there are extra parts, but probably not that significant enough to make up multiple thousands of dollars per tire. For investments, im lumping ak the costs prior to production. Things like R&D, manufacturing equipment, and marketing. All these costs are normally divided amongst all the units the manufacturer expects to sell. With a normal street tire that can be put on almost any car, this cost is divided over millions of tires. With these tires however, they only go one the veyron, so all those expenses have to be divided among a much smaller production run. Add onto all that the manufacturers markup and the dealers markup and you have a hefty pricetag
@@christophermichael.w.7577 and that people who owns a Bugatti needs to spend 42 grand. They don't made a lot of those and Michelin has put a lot of money for R&D. And Veyrons were made back in 2006 so at that time it's a ridiculous amount money to spend on tires. But if you about it because it Bugatti they mark up on price for these tires.
Okay, first of all, BY FAR my favourite car channel on RUclips, there's something truly special about Donut's special blend of informative entertainment and subtle comedy. But guys... can you PLEASE make it a point to edit in metric quantities whenever spoken quantities are in the script. Idc if its in the script but just having the metric equivalents onscreen would make a huge difference in content for the rest of the world. Thanks guys, always appreciate the great content! MO POWAH BABEH!!!!!
Not really the reason they expensive. Most high end tires can handle that for a some times. In fact indy cars average around 240 mph.on race tires. Is the fact that they weight nearly two tons and are in a bugatti
It is not a mark up because these tires are bugatti specific so you need to consider the development cost for these tires unless there are millions of bugatti on the road then you can say it's a mark up.
As the velocity goes up, since it’s squared in the force equation, once speeds get really high it becomes much harder and harder to make a tire to cope with the forces. Still 42k for a set of tires is gonna be a markup since there’s no way that the materials cost that much.
It's more the time they spent developing it and making specific moulds and compounds that require their own machines in order to cater to very few people. There's a lot more than raw material costs, especially with something like this
In a way, yes, but it really isn't that simple. They're that expensive because of how much money Michelin spent on R&D, and making manufacturing changes to produce them. And when you spend a lot of money upfront to develop a product only 20 people will buy each year, you have to charge more to make the investment worth it. It's such a high markup because of both the huge upfront cost and the fact that these babies will only go on a car almost no one has. Think of it this way, you live on a small island with about 40 other people, and a restaurant association asks you to start selling McDonald's food. First you have to spend time and money researching everything, then spend money building a restaurant, and pay employees. In the end, you invested $2 million in your restaurant. How long would it take for you to earn that $2 million back selling 2 for $3 McDoubles to 40 people who only eat there once every 18 months (don't ask why the people are required to eat there at least once every 18 months because I haven't worked out that part of this analogy)? Probably not in your lifetime. So, that 2 for $3 McDouble deal becomes 2 for $100, because you have bills to pay.
@@CosmicCammEven at $42,000 per set, I think that Michellin is still losing money on these tires. I never saw a Bugatti with more than 10,000 miles on it for sale. In fact the highest mileage Bugatti that is owned by a customer has only 27,000 miles. Bugatti's own test car only has 47,000 miles. I doubt that most Bugatti's had ever swapped its tires. However, even while losing money on these tires, you need to factor in the trickle down effect, of Michellin's R&D. The R&D done on these 300mph+ tires will probably allow it to make better tires in the future for mass market supercars. It's also a marketing tactic, Michellin gets the prestige of making tire capable of 300mph, and costs $10,000 per tire. It's literally free marketing for the brand when people report on their insane tire price.
@@seanl764 that's a good point, I'm sure they can recoup some of that R&D cost by incorporating some of that tech into other tires. But definitely not turning a profit yet.
I worked at a Nissan dealer and we recommended replacing wheels and tires to customers when they wore out.. why they thought putting them on a mini-van was a good idea was always a head scratcher to me. Yeah they might be safer but the cost wasn't worth it!
@@LS__812 "It might be safer" explains it all. What salesman wouldn't push the super safe minivan to every soccer mom who comes in? Of course the expense gets left out but its soooooo safe!
@@dorianbrecevic4818 you don't really know how drifting is done, do you? You put slippier tires on the back, because you don't really want all the grip in the world in them when you are going drifting
I have installed the pax rings on the Honda odysseys. They are a huge pain in the ass to install and even worse to balance. We would usually rebalance then 2-3 times.
James: “My car, HiCar, gets expensive parts, while Nolan’s car gets cheap ebay parts” Nolan under his breath: “James I don’t think this one is really fair” James: “listen to your father!” James: “I get these 42,000 dollar set of tires! While Nolan gets this $600 set of tires” Nolan: “😐”
If I remember correctly, one of the other reasons for needing specific tires and a specially trained tech is the actual tire / wheel size. The wheels are 20.47" (f) and 21.26" (r), and the tires themselves are slightly smaller in diameter (no, not like ugly stretched "stance" tires are). This, coupled with the glue, also allows for the heat to expand the tire without debeading itself under the enormous pressure of top speed. Regardless, $42k for a set of tires is crazy. However, if you figure numbers a bit, putting $42k worth of tires on a Veyron is about the equivalent of putting a set of $400 tires on your run of the mill Honda Accord. ($2mil car, $42k tires... $20k car, $400 tires).
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You know, that makes some of those children look like a steal. I could have a set of tires OR a child slave? Easy choice. With a little set up work I could get that child slave to bring in enough money to pay for themselves and the tires I wanted. Epic win.
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I own a Audi TT back in the day with a set of bald Micheals with unknown miles and they where the best tires ever. Those thinks where amazing in the snow. When I finial took the off the rims I was able to fold the tire in half. Best tires ever
i'm actually pretty good at changing my car tires, but my motorcycle tires were starting to wear a little thin! Finally replaced those yesterday. Totally felt a difference in handling and performance.Not as afraid to turn haha
I went for 2 years without changing my winter tires. Drove them in the summer and in the winter. Finally replaced them with two second hand winter tires on the front of the car and two summer tires in the back. The driver side rear tire was so worn out that I could see the metal part of the it.
The longest I ever went on a set of tires was 10 years as a daily. Goodyear wrangler silent armours. They still had lots of tread left just one would slowly leak.
I remember when Top Gear tested the Veyron and said "The tires will explode after 15 minutes at this speed, but don't worry, it'll run out of gas in 6." (Something like that). That car is so insane.
The Koenigsegg is crazier for all the good reason, Bugatti is for 10yr olds anyway
Not practical whatsoever in my opinion for Civilian Use, I mean if you needed to get from point A to point B on a perfectly asphalted landscape it is but really?
Do you need the power of 1,000 horses? Does anyone even need 300 horses? or 200?
I am imagining scenarios in my head from centuries ago, a Horse carriage just thundering away with 200 horses in front of it.
@@benjamincho4819 you do if you feel the need for speed
@@benjamincho4819 highly doubt anyone intended for this to be a practical car for civilian use mate.
@@benjamincho4819 yeah, but it would be awesome. Gonna google 200 horse chariot now.
That’s gonna be a expensive Hilow episode
albert heijn yeah a dutchie like me
Daffer Donk leuk man
@@albertheijn894 does too expensive means more better? *in Nolan's voice 😂
42000$ veyron tires vs 100$ junkyard tires
Result: Less Expensive is More Better
Who else said "at least it's for the whole set and not just one"
Such a relief that it's only 10k a piece 😂
This guy
Let me do the math, 42000x4=168000
You can only buy them in a set of 4
🙋♂️
“Must be changed every 18 months” *STRADMAN STARTS SWEATING*
You only really need those tyres if your going like 200+
We all know stradman gonna try to go 200+ miles
Stradman has cheaper tires, but he has an original set of wheels. Probably gonna use that for his airstrip run
dude he buys a new 100,000 car every 4-5 months he’ll be fine
Don’t worry whistlindiesel diesel started a gofundme for stradman
"widest rear tire"
So you're implying that there's a wider front tire somewhere
It’s only a 265 in the front from a quick google search
@@miket.8528 thanks for ruining the joke, your efforts won’t go in vain
Buggati runs skinny tires in the front to help handling acc. to the company
@@AnmolSingh-fb4yd 🤣 skid city crash at wall 1
@@miket.8528 no
Yeah. I wouldn’t do a burnout with those
If you had veyron, you would do
I'd give it a red hot go.
If you can afford a Veyron 42k ain’t shit to you it’s basically 420 dollars
Couldn’t even if I wanted- the smart electronics would just shoot the car forward instead of making me look good while trying to do burnouts in front of a crowd... or dumb...
Probably dumb.
@@maitreyoda7404 exactly!
I bet stradman is watching this like
Oh come on 42 grand worth tires for the boogity
Didn’t he actually buy them in one of his last videos?
@@ApexAviation9782 for 42,000 dollars and the wheels?
@@wateringcan4522 he said it was free I believe
@@ApexAviation9782 I'm pretty sure I heard he paid and anyways it's a limited edition hows it gonna be free
@@shivasaravanan3032 idk I just guessed
the tires cost $42,000
me an intellectual: that’s like 10,000 dollars a tire
Me, a big brain: that's like $10,500 per tire
Me, an even bigger brain: that is 4x the price of a Subaru BRZ listing I found online!
It's at least $300 per tire
TheBloodMango
Don’t do it.
TheBloodMango probably a shitbox
"Is it just a markup, because they are on a Bugatti."
Yes.
thanks now I don't need to watch the video
@@Runmeerkat this dude insults our knowledge every video. Explains everything like hes talking to non car guy 8 yr olds.
Nah. The real reason isn't even mentioned here. What is it? Economy of scale.
In order to make these, the manufacturer must maintain a special production line with special equipment and specially trained personal all to produce a very low volume item.
The initial cost of engineering an object, engineering the facility and equipment to make an object and building the facility and equipment to make the object is shared across the number of objects to be produced. So your break even point is (upfront investment + overhead) / units produced.
From there, it's easy to see why a common tire that is produced in a volume of about a hundred million units per year is much cheaper than a tire that is produced in a volume of around 3000 units per year.
@@followthegrow108 ummm. First comment on this channel and an obvious joke. Take it easy buddy.
ColonelSandersLite exactly!!
The pax system is common on Older Honda odyssey’s and is most often replaced with new wheels and tires to prevent such high cost
About 3 years ago I work at a Honda dealership as an alignment tech (later moved up to a PDI tech before moving onto another job). I remember anytime a main tech would bring over a 2010ish looking Odyssey, I knew they did the PAX wheels and I knew I was in for fun time. The sensors used for alignments usually just connect right at the edge of the wheel where the wheel met tire. Not on a PAX tire. The sidewall stuck out so there was no space to stick the sensors. So we had to get these huge clamps and clamp down in the tire tread and then connect the sensors to those, and the thread connector usually wasn't as firm as the wheel connector, mostly because if you went too tight you'd puncture the tire. The rest was smooth sailing. I remember those tires costing like $350 a piece too.
We bought the first year gen 3 Ody. We avoided the Touring for just this reason.
I used to work at a tire shop and we sold 2-3 sets of wheels to replace the pax system for customers
How many of us honda techs felt personally victimized by the PAX system? This was not a great idea on any level lol.
Odyessy’s tires ready for 250mph soon as you make the power.
Jerrybeary does like rising his eyebrows often
I read this, looked at the video and he immediately raised his eyebrows lol
omg i just noticed that
I watched the video one more time to count how many times he raised his eyebrows. Well I became unconscious
Just joking people
Well it would be pretty boring if he just stood and had an emotionless face and no body expression for a video thats over 10 min.
Why do we have the same photo
I love how B2B transitioned from a car walkthrough show to a car tech show
Yeah bro rip science garage
I still miss the good old walkthrough B2B, as so as I miss sience garage.
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Me: Sees tyres and $42,000 in one sentence
My mind:: Bugatti Veyron
Rick Astley
Never Gonna Give You Up
We're no strangers to loveYou know the rules and so do IA full commitment's what I'm thinking ofYou wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feelingGotta make you understand
My guess was that it was for an f1 formula car
engyun zenkai makes me feel like my eyes need hearing aids
@@HeyItsHypno *_aka glasses_*
Stratis same!
My friend got his car from his parents who rarely drove it. When he asked how old are the tires, they said they never changed them. It is a 13 yo car.
Those are rookie numbers
My mates car is still running crossply 😭
Bro my dad's little Nissan frontier has had the same tires from factory since he got it. It was made 2000 😢😢😢😢😢😢 I feel unsafe every time I drive it
@@rickvillanueva7345 change em then lol
Dad had some 17-18yr old 33x12.50 Khumos for awhile they had some minor dry rot but they worked well. Replaced a little before the tread wore out to “be safe” though.
These tires cost more than twice the price of my car
i've been driving for 9 years, the most expensive car i've bought was $1,200, learn to work on your cars and quit going to the Stealership.
Shashank Papireddy lol btw can I get some support on my channel please
Omar lol stealership is a good one. Do you have any other good names for them that I can steal?
@@Omar-em7rl what do you currently drive?
@@pedroteixeira7595 probably a geo metro
"Tire rises in ceter." Perfect. 7:56
NAILED IT
What is ceter?
Less rolling resistance my guy
@@angelgjr1999 center*
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The glue on the wheels is there also to keep the wheel from spinning inside of the tire because it has so much torque and horsy powers!!
F1 McLaren back in the day it was somthing crazy like 40-50 grand to change the tires also, but part of the cost was after they installed the tires they went out on a track to setup and readjust all of the F1 cool stuff like suspension and psi, lol. I dont remember for sure if they had a track to do this on or if they rented one but either way they had to have an ambulance on standby at the track with a crew as they were doing the driving to make the F1 perform like an F1!! It was mainly due to insurance reasons to have the ambulance and i think a fire truck also now that i think about it? There is a few videos covering it if you look for them. Not anything to do with the Bugatti but i thought it was cool and wanted to share is all!! Have a great day!!! :)
Thanks for sharing!
The tires are turning 76 times a second if that puts it in perspective
Imagine the pressure on the tire tech when mounting these
Probably around 180psi.
WildMan Frizzell probably took that much to seat the beads
Like that one scene from airplane! When he’s shaking and dripping gallons of water🤣🤣🤣🤣
U sould listen VinWiki and Randy Probst about tire service on McLaren F1
Rubber is rubber. This is just $42,000 rubber. 0_o
These Tires: $42K
BLT n Beer: $4.70
Feel of freshly laundered clothes: $3.50 B2B upload on your day off: Priceless
I could buy 42 of my car instead of these tires.
I could get ∅ cars like mine because you can't devide by zero
Ya mean 168 of your car
Hell for just one of those tires you can get an f-body with a ls motor...
I could get 53!
Demolition derby. Mini vans last the longest
"You might have to send your car to France for new tires."
Do the wheels not come off? I've never owned a Bugatti.
Right? If I owned one, why couldn't I just ship the wheels to France?
@TowwerN3 truuuueeeeee.
Not only that, but I'm sure that, if you want them to be properly mounted and balanced, you take that thing to Bugatti, and not your local Mom-and-Pop tire shop.
If you're that rich, why not just ship France to your doorstep?
I’m the owner of several Bugatti’s. When I need tires I drive my Bugatti to my private airport and onto my private cargo plane. It’s the experience
Michelin: develops star rating system to sell more tires
Firestone: profits
Michelin: what?
Michelin: creates bespoke metric wheel and tire combinations (TRX) for better handling.
Every other tire company: Makes it cheaper, better, and more reliable
Michelin: Stop it guys!!!!
Michelin: TRX take II, hyper bougie boogaloo
Every other car company: When will you learn old man!?
This settles it. I’m not buying a Bugatti. I was on the fence about buying one, but this video made me change my mind. Thanks Donut!
donut media: stradtire
That’s what I thought
This episode made my salary feel so insignificant. It's like discovering how big the Universe is. 🤯
Kinda makes you realize how expensive some peoples life styles are tbh. A set of tires cost as much as a comfortable salary.
Not a big deal I'm just going to buy a set and eat Maruchan Soup and drink tap water for a whole year!
Not A Federal I already only drink tap water
I was talking to a guy about this tyres, you couldn't make this day even more special :
The video was uploaded on my birthday (september 22nd).
THANKS DONUT !! YOU GUYS ROCK THE BLOCK
Truck guys would kill for a production wheel that are 14” wide.
or you could just get a go kart with tractor tyres.
Not really. You can swap a dulley rim with a super single and be 17”wide. Look up Michelin X one tires for reference. Might be cross technology infused.
i saw the title..............................
WHAT THE ACTUALL F
If your dream car is a Bugatti, better get used to it
@@黒キツネ-九零二一零 I think I would go for an egg XD
@@pranavdubey3333 I can't decide. I love them both
Edit: I meant Pagani and Koenigsegg, not Bugatti and Koenigsegg
If you're under the age of 25, you best be running your rubbers until that one rainy day when you realize you've gone too far.
Deja vu
Bro why you gotta come at me like that???
I did this in my mustang as well in the rain was at a stop had to get onto a big road accelerated too apparently because my back end ended up in the left lane luckily the extensive test of my tires that had caused this taught me how to safely handle it but no one drove any where near my car after that
It’s normal to run tires until you see wires right?
You guys are really pushing the mustang mene haha
burlacher: the boogity
stradman: 42000 a set!!!!
Oscar the floof: Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
42,000 really went from seeming ridiculous to quite reasonable of a price as the video went on
Imagine pulling into a regular old mechanic shop with a million-dollar car and asking the poor minimum-wage worker to replace the tires lol
Imagine rolling up with a beater to replace those expensive ass tires lol
@@TheQuilava96 lol
They probably wouldn't touch the car at all.
@@RotGodKing neither have the tools to do the job
I'm so early I haven't slept yet
You didn't even watch the video 6min ago
The video start 5min ago and your here 6🤔🤔🤔🤔
Where are you?
Me too lol
Nice raven bro
Jeremiah: "$329... Yeesh, that's expensive!"
4x4 drivers with 35s+: "Uhh... what?"
35's are like $250/ea
@@billybobjoe198 maybe for federals, @BigSh00ts is talking about real tires
Me over here chilling with my 150$ Chinese bullshit 35s
@@billybobjoe198 some 35s are. My statement was 35 +. Some guys run 37s and 40s too.
@Max Power are you projecting right now?
Fun Fact: The 2007 Honda Odyssey Touring also had a Michelin PAX tires. Though they were not as expensive as these Bugatti tires, they were still very expensive.
First: Why?
Second: Read first.
Justin Liauw sometime you need super grippy bois
Justin Liauw go away, and stop projecting your depression on others with that negativity
They litteraly said that in the video 😂
@@jorritvanderkooi939 >.>
I put a set of these on my car. My car is now worth $43,000
I'd bargain a ton of the cost is from R&D. Think about it this way: there's 2 main categories to determining the manufacturing cost of an item: investments and materials. Material cost is probably a bit higher than other tires, since there are extra parts, but probably not that significant enough to make up multiple thousands of dollars per tire. For investments, im lumping ak the costs prior to production. Things like R&D, manufacturing equipment, and marketing. All these costs are normally divided amongst all the units the manufacturer expects to sell. With a normal street tire that can be put on almost any car, this cost is divided over millions of tires. With these tires however, they only go one the veyron, so all those expenses have to be divided among a much smaller production run.
Add onto all that the manufacturers markup and the dealers markup and you have a hefty pricetag
Simply put-they made them and there are not many people who are going to buy them
@@christophermichael.w.7577 and that people who owns a Bugatti needs to spend 42 grand. They don't made a lot of those and Michelin has put a lot of money for R&D. And Veyrons were made back in 2006 so at that time it's a ridiculous amount money to spend on tires. But if you about it because it Bugatti they mark up on price for these tires.
Nobody:
Jerry: 14 INCHES🍆😲🤤
9 INCHES🥒😗😂
mans acting like 9 inches is small riiip me
He watching too much porn
Bruhh
@@kilmency2187 He is talking about horses maybe? Being the show is about horsepower.
Lmfao, he is referring to the comment made about the Veyron's being 14.4 inches wide and the widest on any production vehicle's EVER! MO' RUBBA BABY!!
I should be in a zoom meeting but this is more important
Same
I am in a zoom meeting with the meeting on mute....
Same lol
Accurate
Or you have no life
7:56 tire rises in ceter
Lol nice
Okay, first of all, BY FAR my favourite car channel on RUclips, there's something truly special about Donut's special blend of informative entertainment and subtle comedy. But guys... can you PLEASE make it a point to edit in metric quantities whenever spoken quantities are in the script. Idc if its in the script but just having the metric equivalents onscreen would make a huge difference in content for the rest of the world. Thanks guys, always appreciate the great content! MO POWAH BABEH!!!!!
Regular rich dude: I got 5 rolexes
Rich car dudes: I have 2 sets of tires
Funnily enough, I was actually talking to my friend about these tires like 2 days ago. Wild stuff
Craaaaaazzyyy 🙄
funnily enough stradman just got a buggati veryon
How do you got the emoji next to your name
Czechers Mic I’m part of donut underground
"Is it just a markup because they are on a Bugatti ?"
"Yes."
*roll credits*
Or because most tires cannot handle 250+ mph
Not really the reason they expensive. Most high end tires can handle that for a some times. In fact indy cars average around 240 mph.on race tires. Is the fact that they weight nearly two tons and are in a bugatti
Go buy em cheaper if you can find them!
It is not a mark up because these tires are bugatti specific so you need to consider the development cost for these tires unless there are millions of bugatti on the road then you can say it's a mark up.
42K in 2005. Tire technology is way beyond what it was 15 years ago. Koenigsegg and Michelin tested Pilot Sport 2 at up to 530 kph adequately.
Hey Jerry, can you make a video about the Koenigsegg Triplex suspension next?
As the velocity goes up, since it’s squared in the force equation, once speeds get really high it becomes much harder and harder to make a tire to cope with the forces. Still 42k for a set of tires is gonna be a markup since there’s no way that the materials cost that much.
It's more the time they spent developing it and making specific moulds and compounds that require their own machines in order to cater to very few people. There's a lot more than raw material costs, especially with something like this
I don’t replace my tires till the tread is... wires
Is it safe to go beyond that?
Andrew Denisovich ya you just gotta start trimming the wires the slapping sound gets to be a bit to noisy
Dre Moore By then, wires provide more tread then bald tires. The upswing!
"Is it just a markup because it's on a Bugatti?"
*Yes*
In a way, yes, but it really isn't that simple. They're that expensive because of how much money Michelin spent on R&D, and making manufacturing changes to produce them. And when you spend a lot of money upfront to develop a product only 20 people will buy each year, you have to charge more to make the investment worth it. It's such a high markup because of both the huge upfront cost and the fact that these babies will only go on a car almost no one has.
Think of it this way, you live on a small island with about 40 other people, and a restaurant association asks you to start selling McDonald's food. First you have to spend time and money researching everything, then spend money building a restaurant, and pay employees. In the end, you invested $2 million in your restaurant. How long would it take for you to earn that $2 million back selling 2 for $3 McDoubles to 40 people who only eat there once every 18 months (don't ask why the people are required to eat there at least once every 18 months because I haven't worked out that part of this analogy)? Probably not in your lifetime. So, that 2 for $3 McDouble deal becomes 2 for $100, because you have bills to pay.
@@CosmicCammEven at $42,000 per set, I think that Michellin is still losing money on these tires. I never saw a Bugatti with more than 10,000 miles on it for sale. In fact the highest mileage Bugatti that is owned by a customer has only 27,000 miles. Bugatti's own test car only has 47,000 miles. I doubt that most Bugatti's had ever swapped its tires.
However, even while losing money on these tires, you need to factor in the trickle down effect, of Michellin's R&D. The R&D done on these 300mph+ tires will probably allow it to make better tires in the future for mass market supercars. It's also a marketing tactic, Michellin gets the prestige of making tire capable of 300mph, and costs $10,000 per tire. It's literally free marketing for the brand when people report on their insane tire price.
@@seanl764 that's a good point, I'm sure they can recoup some of that R&D cost by incorporating some of that tech into other tires. But definitely not turning a profit yet.
So that’s why all Honda Odyssey have ugly wheels on them , so they don’t have to replace that tire lmao
I worked at a Nissan dealer and we recommended replacing wheels and tires to customers when they wore out.. why they thought putting them on a mini-van was a good idea was always a head scratcher to me. Yeah they might be safer but the cost wasn't worth it!
@@LS__812 "It might be safer" explains it all. What salesman wouldn't push the super safe minivan to every soccer mom who comes in? Of course the expense gets left out but its soooooo safe!
My dad has one and the wheels r all scratched up
me a day after putting $42k tires on: Drift day?
well, DDE did it, so i don't see why not.
I feel like tires speficially designed to grip as well as possible would prevent you from actually drifting.
@@FUNKOfilms then why do drivers spin off..... its the same with drifting.. its just that drfting is controling that spin, that prety clear lol
@@dorianbrecevic4818 you don't really know how drifting is done, do you? You put slippier tires on the back, because you don't really want all the grip in the world in them when you are going drifting
@@dimitrijekrstic7567 yeah i know but shitty drivers will just spinn out of the drift...
Up to speed
Jaguar XJ
Lexus SC
James Dad I been asking for over 2yr look up the 4Runner video
Lincoln
Abarth
Hudson Hornet
You said going up to speed on your dad 😂
I asked for up to speed on mitsuoka, but they never did it
I am a Tire Sales/Technician, and this was very satisfying to watch
Is that including core discount? If not I'd like my tires back to stack in the garage.
It funny how this vid was made 3 weeks after TheStradman got his veyron
Literally thinking the same thing 😂😂
That’s marketing for you
Stradman got a Veyron? How much did he pay lol
Donut Media: *uploads new content*
Me: *auto like before watching*
the time at which you comment on a video does not matter
Anil Ambrosi lol
YOU ARE 1st 🏁
I have installed the pax rings on the Honda odysseys. They are a huge pain in the ass to install and even worse to balance. We would usually rebalance then 2-3 times.
Love that silver early SG Forester in the shop clip around 9:48 😂👌
Day 119 of asking Donut to do an Up To Speed on Le Mans/WEC
James: “My car, HiCar, gets expensive parts, while Nolan’s car gets cheap ebay parts”
Nolan under his breath: “James I don’t think this one is really fair”
James: “listen to your father!”
James: “I get these 42,000 dollar set of tires! While Nolan gets this $600 set of tires”
Nolan: “😐”
I feel like on a 350z, a set of 595rsrr's would be better than what is effectively a special performance all season.
Love from INDIA ❤️
If I remember correctly, one of the other reasons for needing specific tires and a specially trained tech is the actual tire / wheel size. The wheels are 20.47" (f) and 21.26" (r), and the tires themselves are slightly smaller in diameter (no, not like ugly stretched "stance" tires are). This, coupled with the glue, also allows for the heat to expand the tire without debeading itself under the enormous pressure of top speed. Regardless, $42k for a set of tires is crazy. However, if you figure numbers a bit, putting $42k worth of tires on a Veyron is about the equivalent of putting a set of $400 tires on your run of the mill Honda Accord. ($2mil car, $42k tires... $20k car, $400 tires).
These guys are so cool
A moment of silence for Garrett Motion Inc you know the guys that make the turbos for most of your cars yeah them they filled for bankruptcy this morning but don't worry plenty of stuuuutuuutuutuuu is still going to be happening
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When some tires cost more than the listings on Wayfair :(
You know, that makes some of those children look like a steal. I could have a set of tires OR a child slave?
Easy choice. With a little set up work I could get that child slave to bring in enough money to pay for themselves and the tires I wanted. Epic win.
we need more SCIENCE GARAGE!!!
Title: These tires cost $42,000
Thumbnail: basic random no brand all seasons.
Can we just appreciate how much Jerry has improved since when we first saw him?
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Imagine how many condoms could have been made with those. Such a waste
@Daksh Jhamb says your momma
Daksh Jhamb you got ratioed hard damn
Daksh Jhamb absolutely sharted on
0 condoms is how many
@Daksh Jhamb obviously it was a joke,but you got shat on which is more funnier
"The average tire is somewhere around 9.5 inches wide"
I'm here with 175s..
Honda Fit/Jazz?
Day 1 of asking the Donut Media Crew to bring back Science Garage with Bart as the Host
Yep I'm starting this I will probably skip days or arrive late because im often busy but i'll count the days that I comment
Oh my! another one😂 Well im glad i've seen you day one im supporting this great idea
Day 1 of supporting JDM is life
all the shit Jerry got right away and now the dude is part of the core roster on donut
This is amazing and informative. I was wondering about the tires for this car and now I know. I will never be complaining about tire prices again. (:
So like we need more science garage 🥺
Nah
You know you're watching Donut Media when you LIKE the video the second it begins
Once he mentioned that he likes raising his eyebrows, I started counting how many times he raised his eyebrows, I lost count.
How tf is there a face on your name
:EJK 044: join their membership
I own a Audi TT back in the day with a set of bald Micheals with unknown miles and they where the best tires ever. Those thinks where amazing in the snow. When I finial took the off the rims I was able to fold the tire in half. Best tires ever
Tbh, Mich. tires are 100% worth it. Idk about the $42,000, but their sport 3 and 4 are fantastic tires. Yokahamas are generally well priced aswell.
This is much more interesting than Nolan fanboying tesla
Nolan drives a mustang how is he a Tesla fanboy
Imagine the flex you could have running these on a civic
Stradman: so the tires are 42 thousand dollars
Donut: this
I got like less than an 1/8 of an inch of tread on my tires right now
You know I wish other channels I watch would put the progress bar at the bottom when going into a paid advertisement. It’s great. Thank you
Bugatti: give me a good tire for some reason
Me: *does burnouts*
Bugatti: 🙃
*laughs in f1 tyre cost*
Early gang like here
Early gang yea
Yea boiii
i'm actually pretty good at changing my car tires, but my motorcycle tires were starting to wear a little thin! Finally replaced those yesterday. Totally felt a difference in handling and performance.Not as afraid to turn haha
Even if I had a billion dollars id never buy a car that had 40,000. replacement tires no way
Day 65 of asking James to do an uptospeed on himself
Roses are red
Violets are blue
I’m not first
And neither are you
This episode was specifically made for strawman lol 😆
"Stawman" lol
When someone says these Bugatti tires are the widest tire ever made, but you know that Interco Thornbirds come in a 17 inch width.
On a production car...
the cost of one tire is the cost of my damn car.
Woah, what kind of car you have?
a golf
"Tire rises in ceter"
WTF is a ceter?
Day 26 of asking James to do an up to speed on his mom
Whether you like cars or not, you gotta appreciate the engineering that goes into this
I went for 2 years without changing my winter tires. Drove them in the summer and in the winter. Finally replaced them with two second hand winter tires on the front of the car and two summer tires in the back. The driver side rear tire was so worn out that I could see the metal part of the it.
The longest I ever went on a set of tires was 10 years as a daily. Goodyear wrangler silent armours. They still had lots of tread left just one would slowly leak.