Divorce and the temple of doom! 😂😂😂 but seriously this is the best I have ever heard of these topics explained!! I grew up in a church that believes in water baptism in order to be saved and has little understanding of grace, or the gift of the Holy Spirit, and that teaches against divorce and remarriage and women, preaching or teaching in the church. These have always been top questions for me and you have really cleared them up!! what you say makes so much sense! I just wish these churches would stop teaching and binding these type of doctrines on Christians, that they don’t really even understand themselves. so much confusion and sadness has been caused by the misinterpretation of these topics by some denominations.
They always use this quote from Paul: "There's neither male nor female." But if we carry on reading in corinthians, Paul talks about genesis and how Adam was created first, then Eve.
The first take on marriage was mostly unbiblical and misleading. It gave quite a lot of ground for people to divorce. I sense that Americans love ease and try to find a way out in any challenging situation. You believe once saved always saved. So do I and it's biblical doctrine. But what you have to consider is that the natural marital covenant with our natural spouse, it's the mirror of the spiritual marital covenant with Christ. So just as Jesus is faithful to us in the spiritual marriage, even in our worst days, we have to do our very best to be faithful to our natural spouse even on their worst days. Mostly if their worst days are not intentional. If our spouse is truly saved he/she has the potential to change for the better and we shouldn't quit on them. We should forgive any offense they make towards us as Christ does with us in the spiritual marriage. The real exception for Christians is when our spouse is an unbeliever who doesn't want to submit to the ways of God and who want to force us to live against the standard of the gospel. In that case, we have the right to separate, but not to divorce. And if the unbeliever departs, then we are released. But in cases where our partner is saved, we are bound with them for life. That's why we have to be very careful about who we chose for spouse. Lastly, you asked if grace is more strict than the law. And the answer is yes. Because grace gives more and asks more. To whom much is given, much is required. Remember the standard for adultery in the new covenant isn't just external; same with murder. So we have to do much more than people under the law, we have to bear much more in marriage than people under the law. In fact we have to love as Jesus loves us.
Please share the scriptures that backs up your assertion that the only allowable divorce is “… when our spouse is an unbeliever who doesn’t want to submit to the ways of God and who want to force us to live against the standard of the gospel. In that case, we have the right to separate, but not divorce.” Would like to know where in the Bible I can find this. Thanks in advance. From my perspective, even when we may have the right to divorce we have an obligation to God to love and forgive. In other words, if I as a Christian refuse to fulfill my obligation to love and forgive my spouse, and instead solely focus on my right to divorce… i may be be adding to the hurt and sinning just as much as my spouse. Certainly sometimes divorce is allowable. refusing to forgive is not. It’s sin. Always. That’s why living in Christ seems too easy and impossible at the same time.
This answers many of the questions that I have had.
Divorce and the temple of doom! 😂😂😂 but seriously this is the best I have ever heard of these topics explained!! I grew up in a church that believes in water baptism in order to be saved and has little understanding of grace, or the gift of the Holy Spirit, and that teaches against divorce and remarriage and women, preaching or teaching in the church. These have always been top questions for me and you have really cleared them up!! what you say makes so much sense! I just wish these churches would stop teaching and binding these type of doctrines on Christians, that they don’t really even understand themselves. so much confusion and sadness has been caused by the misinterpretation of these topics by some denominations.
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Divorce. LOL!
They always use this quote from Paul: "There's neither male nor female."
But if we carry on reading in corinthians, Paul talks about genesis and how Adam was created first, then Eve.
The first take on marriage was mostly unbiblical and misleading. It gave quite a lot of ground for people to divorce. I sense that Americans love ease and try to find a way out in any challenging situation.
You believe once saved always saved. So do I and it's biblical doctrine.
But what you have to consider is that the natural marital covenant with our natural spouse, it's the mirror of the spiritual marital covenant with Christ.
So just as Jesus is faithful to us in the spiritual marriage, even in our worst days, we have to do our very best to be faithful to our natural spouse even on their worst days. Mostly if their worst days are not intentional.
If our spouse is truly saved he/she has the potential to change for the better and we shouldn't quit on them. We should forgive any offense they make towards us as Christ does with us in the spiritual marriage.
The real exception for Christians is when our spouse is an unbeliever who doesn't want to submit to the ways of God and who want to force us to live against the standard of the gospel. In that case, we have the right to separate, but not to divorce.
And if the unbeliever departs, then we are released.
But in cases where our partner is saved, we are bound with them for life. That's why we have to be very careful about who we chose for spouse.
Lastly, you asked if grace is more strict than the law. And the answer is yes. Because grace gives more and asks more. To whom much is given, much is required.
Remember the standard for adultery in the new covenant isn't just external; same with murder.
So we have to do much more than people under the law, we have to bear much more in marriage than people under the law. In fact we have to love as Jesus loves us.
No, all that is wrong understanding.
Lol. Ooh who to believe.. who to believe..
@@j._7054 believe the one who is backed by the scriptures
Please share the scriptures that backs up your assertion that the only allowable divorce is
“… when our spouse is an unbeliever who doesn’t want to submit to the ways of God and who want to force us to live against the standard of the gospel. In that case, we have the right to separate, but not divorce.”
Would like to know where in the Bible I can find this. Thanks in advance.
From my perspective, even when we may have the right to divorce we have an obligation to God to love and forgive. In other words, if I as a Christian refuse to fulfill my obligation to love and forgive my spouse, and instead solely focus on my right to divorce… i may be be adding to the hurt and sinning just as much as my spouse.
Certainly sometimes divorce is allowable. refusing to forgive is not. It’s sin. Always. That’s why living in Christ seems too easy and impossible at the same time.