I love The Expanse for its realism, but I love Battlestar Galactica's "semi-realism" aesthetics of an armored battlestar firing nukes around and WWII-like flak cannons. These and the difficulties onboard the ship, as well as its tension makes BSG my favorite sci-fi television series. Nothing else can top it!
if you enjoy both of the kinda shows you should consider reading the book series The Frontiers Saga by Ryk Brown. Solid books with a lot of this kinda action.
@@Guywiththedimpples "you should consider reading the book series The Frontiers Saga by Ryk Brown" Is the storyline completed yet? I went to the web site, and they have allot of books in the series, and explanations for a release schedule, but it seemed a bit much to track/understand.
Expanse battles were mostly of smaller vessels and I much prefer capital ships being involved in my sci fi. Which means the Donnager battle in S1 of Expanse was completely epic and was one of the high points of the entire series.
@@stevk5181 Yes, when our newly found Cylon friend, who is supposedly absolutely undistinguishable from humans, bar super advanced testing developed by Baltar, turns out to have a USB port in her writst 😋
@@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm I think it’s implied that she uses direct electrical connection via her blood stream to do it, a much more crude version of the puddles they stick their hands in on the basestars It’s all basically pseudoscience, but the cool thing is that we do something similar with iPads and stuff, they don’t detect touch, but instead they detect the slight electrical discharge we give off when we touch the screen, this is that concept taken wayyyyyyy further
@@3adgamd3r "It’s all basically pseudoscience" No, it's science fiction. That's a hallmark of the genre, that the suspension of disbelief when it comes to science might be required, because they're talking about things that either aren't possible or aren't possible with our currrent understanding (faster than light travel) or things that just don't exist in our world (a Stargate, for instance)
I always thought this show did space battles better than any other franchise. The suspense is masterful, the stakes feel desperately real, every hit to the Galactica is painful and you feel how the ship is deteriorating over time, and the combat just has a realism to it.
Not just feel it. As the show progressed, Galactica was looking more and more beaten-up. Here it looks pristine, while towards the end of the show's run it had multiple dents, missing armour plates, the hull was scorched and it was overall discoloured. Good attention to details like that added to the shows credibility.
@@kasegiyabu5030 The best part about that is that as the show went on tech improved to make those details easier and faster to render. They exploited that in a way we don't often get to see.
I saw this series when it was a premiere, after so many years, it still causes me the same emotion and tension. It's magnificent, amazing, Battlestar Galactica forever!!!
The show completely changed after the writers strike. Also the ending didn't make sense. They threw away all their tech into the sun. More than half of the survivors would have died without medical supplies and shelter.
This was the first episode I saw, and it was entirely by accident: I left the channel on after Stargate SG-1 was over. Within ten minutes, I was hooked.
@@juicebirdmedia1406 It's a reimagined version of Galactica. I loved the original as a kid too. But for once, this remake is a great one worth watching! Scifi at it's best, ethical dilemmas, drama and of course hot action. I believe series are watchable on Amazon Prime
As a person who also works in networking modern network technologies and theories the cylons wouldn't have a hope. You can still network key systems just air gap anything that transmits in the wireless
They actually did want them. Turns out the robots that rebelled 50 years ago are so good at hacking networks, that you are better off back to analog ^^
@@SeizureGman Exactly. If the Galactica kept their networks only on the wire, they'd be unhackable by remote. Unless the Cyclons can break the laws of physics.
@@ricwalker6600 Again air gap critical systems from anything wireless and you can network with physical cabling in fact really a ship as big as galactica this has to be the case no way could you operate weapons or engines if the computers in CIC were not hard wired to the systems in each area
There is something about how they panned the camera in the space shots that really made the ships look real, the direction was top-notch, I’d love to know how they decided on the style.
Even having seen the episode, knowing they are going to escape, Apollo is in no danger, and Adama makes it through surgery the tension still has me at the edge of my seat. A series you can literally watch over again and its still good. Though I do agree with one of the other posts that said launching threir tech into the Sun made no sense from a survival standpoint I understood the sentiment.
I would like to think that the Anders Hybrid, at the last moment, just before the fleet went into the Sun, yelled, 'Jump'. This would make a perfect launching point for the new Peacock series by Sam Esmail, if that ever comes about.
Nor does it make any sense for advanced, space-faring civilizations to cling to such primitive beliefs as religion. Take that out, and the show is a masterpiece.
@@anthonyobryan3485 Primitive belief? And yet thousands of years later, and all this technology and fancy gizmos... we still have faith. Imagine that!!!
@@crowejoy after the attack on adama there was complete chaos, in the middle of which his deputy took command. let's just say he managed to make a series of embarrassing mistakes! he was an excellent number 2, but a failure as a leader.
I think it’s either Gaeta or hoshi that give the wrong jump coordinates to half the fleet. Drunk gets pissed. But yeh all because of the chaos of adama getting shot
Rewatching this series for like the fourth time, just finished this episode last night. Hats off to whomever put '420' in the left column of the hacking bits a dozen or so times. Someone had to type all that out.
If I remember correctly this was an ambush but one they expected to jump into. Prior to this Galactica and the fleet jumped after a cylon ship detected them, but Galactica got its jump wrong so had to return to the original location and to calculate the jump again (hence the networked computers to do it faster). What makes it interesting is that they never used some of the more advanced tactics they developed later using their jump capable Raptors to deploy decoys before they arrived, force the cyclons to spead out and buying them more time.
@@cgi2002 wasnt an ambush. they new the cylons would be there. ambush means the cylons caught galactica of guard but galactica went in knowing they would be there. also galatic didn't get the jump wrong. Tigh got the jump wrong because he didn't update the emergency coordinates with the fleet. (was the captains responsibility) who was Tigh at the time
@@RN-19924 knowing your walking into a trap doesn't negate that it's a trap, hence it's still arguably an ambush. It's like the old adage "you know it's a trap right, so next step, spring the trap". Admittedly its questionable why it would be one, the cylons had no reason we are aware of to suspect that Galactica would return (unless they had a human form telling them it would that we never get told about, we know there were a handful spread throughout the fleet still at this point). It honestly makes you wonder why the base ship was still there unless that was part of how they were tracking the fleet, lots of fancy sensor analysis and computing to figure out were they went (only way I can imagine without spies they'd be able to track the fleet, since their FTL doesn't seem to be limited in its direction, range or anything of the sort, it's never really explained). As for getting the jump wrong, they did, that it was because Tigh screwed up doesn't change that they got it wrong. Ok technically Galactica got it right, the rest of the fleet got it wrong as he never sent them the new data, but that is a plot hole if it's that way around when you think about it. If the fleet jumped using old data, which Galactica would have already had, then why would they need to return to the original location to follow the fleet, since they'd already know were the fleet went and could have just followed them directly. With it been the other way around it makes more sense but is still a big stupid plot hole as either way your just working out were the fleet went from the location, a location you already have all the data for, you don't need to be there follow the fleet. You started at A, you went to B, fleet to C, there is no logical reason you can't go to C from B when you know how to workout how to go from A to C already, just modify your math to start at B instead, it's just geometry.
@@cgi2002 so every watch they update their emergency jump calculations with new star fixes to compensate with inertia drift. how evre they didnt send it to the fleet. my hypothesis is these calculations are completey random from the point you calculate. meaning they coundt calculate from point B to C as they would be different, so they had to go to A to redo the calculations. then gator devises to use th FTL computer nav DC and fire control computers to redo and finish the previous calculation in 10m another hypothesis is the calculations are scrubbed after every watch meaning they had to redo them from point A. those are my 2 theory's trying to explain it after that could be a plot hole with the first part. i just presume that base star was staying their just in case they back track or they were doing calculations predicting the fleet movements
The sound effects ruin everything. It was bullcrap in the 1930s and it's bullcrap in our advanced digital era. But okay, series like Battlestar Galactica are Pulp.
@@willemvandeursen3105you are so wrong on so many levels 💀 bsg is anything but pulp. the complete opposite, even more. Bsg is literally ranked as the top 5 objectively best sci fi series ever: many rank it as #1.
Thinking back to 2004 when the 1st season came out , Having watched the original series as a kid.... I was shocked, amazed, compelled, addicted.... I WANTED MORE! A series that just threw you in at the deep end and never gave in. And 2004 Graphics... can we talk about the graphics.....??? Bear in mind this is a massive multi-episode saga where you have to stretch your budget... It still very much holds up today as it did then. (Slips out the boxsets)... maybe another run through wouldn't hurt.... :D
As the series went on you can see the episodes where they blew their budget and had to spend the next few episodes on tiny sound stages. lol. It did give a nice mix of epic space opera with the tighter, more human aspects though.
@@craigpattenden Also ranks among my favourite shots in the show. Bonus points for Tigh looking up at the sky *before* it happens, like he'd already worked out Adama's next step.
"Hey Dave" - "Sup George?" - "We've been sitting in these ships for millions of cycles" - "Yeah and?" - "Well like I put in a request to become a skin job but haven't heard anything in what seems like forever" - "What? You don't like blowing up humans?" - "I ran the numbers and we primarily just sit in our ships doing nothing. We only get to shoot at things ever so often... I kind of want to learn guitar now maybe bass"
What's scary is that Galactica didn't even have all of the armor plating it had during the first Cylon war. Most of the outer layer was removed during the armistice period, presumably to save on mass - and thus energy costs.
I may need to re-watch this :) I still love how, rather than the hand-wavey forcefields so many sci-fi shows give their ships, Galactica uses hull armour and a barrage of artillery fire.
Old / Lazy sci-fi shows uses Shields cuz they didnt want damage their physicals models. Galactica wasn't lazy. You can see every scar that Galactica took until the final episodes. Shields systems are kinda lazy way to do things. Other excelent show don't use shields is The Expanse.
It's not a question of laziness, but of technology and money. Scenes like this just wouldn't have been possible before the turn of the century and the advent of modern CGI.
For a civilization capable of traversing interstellar space, the Colonials' medical technology seems to be at the same level as that of 21st century Earth.
i presumed thats what galatica time was based on. our time but we developed space faring. BSG is supposed a fictional prequal to us now hence the story. so everything you we have just not space fareing.
I think the basic idea was that but for a few technological breakthroughs (FTL drive, artificial gravity, the AI that gave us Cylons, etc.), the colonies weren't that far ahead of where we are now. Also, the Galactica itself was an old ship slated for retirement and not necessarily stocked with the best material. From a narrative perspective, it allowed the showrunners/writers to create a more familiar world the viewer could relate to. Out-of-universe, it also saved money as a lot of the props could be just bought off the shelf rather than crafted specifically for the show.
No scifi shows really extrapolates technology that realistically what they do is make a choice for the show they want. Even Star Wars in some ways is oddly futuristic and anachronistic at the same time as its a style. BSG went for a technology is mostly the same as ours but for the odd need where it isn't - spaceships, an FTL the Cylons. But even those ships largely work as modern aircraft carriers.
It may be a result of the severe resource shortages but basic surgeries are still basic surgeries. The colonies clearly have a "If it ain't broke don't give the Cylons a chance to hack it" mentality.
They basically _are_ early 21st Century Americans, so yeah. The weird part of the show is that they're in spaceships, when (IMO) it would have made more sense as a series about an American aircraft carrier battlegroup with some civilian ships it's trying to protect going through a robot apocalypse. Like _The Last Ship,_ but with more fighter dogfights. Having the Colonials be Americans of the exact era the show aired in broke my suspension of belief from the start. _The Last Ship_ did it better.
4:28-4:48 twenty seconds of the some of the greatest space battle special effects ever. Only rivaled by the battlestar/basestar fight in the Resurrection ship episode.
Technology was purposely dumbed down as part of the series lore. Colonial technology had been much more advanced 50 years ago, but the Cylons' ability to hack remote networks forced humans to regress to older tech.
I like how much more professional Hotdog is acting in this engagement. Really shows he got it in his head he isn't THE best and should keep it cool to improve his chances of not getting shot down.
Watching the evolution of Hotdog from a civilian pilot out of his depth in a Viper cockpit to basically leading the Viper strike force during the assault on the Colony is fantastic.
loved all of galactica, one of the best series i watched and got really into. just bugs me that the person who uploaded this misnamed the clip. it wasn't an ambush. after adama was shot. tigh takes command. the cylon finds the fleet position and attacks. though not used to the command position. Tigh forgot to update the emergency jump coordinates with the fleet and jump to a different position. with no way of knowing where the fleet went. they head back to the position where they left to calculate where the fleet went as stated at 0:47. they knew the cylons would be still there and were prepared to fight. they riskgoing back because they new they couldn't survive without the fleet and vis versa.
"We have a solution for the fleet's position!" "Break the network!" *Disconnect cable number 1 *Disconnect cable number 2 *Disconnect cable number 3 That's a total of 8 seconds they wasted. They should've had one marine placing his/her hands on each cable, and as soon as the screen says "fleet position plotted," they pull the cables.
Only think that doesn’t make sense is how they can hack in just cause they have their system networked together. You still need a way in. A wireless signal or something and they seem to be using cables for everything.
I saw an interview once with Mr. Olmos; he saaid "If you liked the previous BSG, you won't like this one." I have to respectfully disagree- I was a BIG BSG nerd in 1978 (I was 15) whenit came out, however, I am an even bigger BSG nerd now! Reboot is grittier, more 'real' (despite the subject matter)- shows how humans in a more realistic light. Some are fighters, others are weaker, and a select few try to spin events in their favor.
They have the perfect opportunity of making a show set in the First Cylon War with the Galactica serving alongside other battlestars, but as you said, it's a current trend to disrespect the canon that came before and hiring writers who hate their job.
I alway find it amazing how they have a loading bar of becoming hacked. I mean - if you can detect it, you can block it, delete it, change passwords or restart the servers.
The loading bar was calculating the fleets position. The graphic was how fast they were being hacked in real time. Two different things happening, easy to confuse
It's very difficult to do a realistic representation of cyberwarfare from a visually interesting standpoint as almost everything that happens is by definition invisible programs in cyberspace. It does add a extra layer of tension and threat to the Cylons as they have multiple vectors of attack
If they combined this series with more exploration of planets that for varying reasons they cannot live on ie planet has sentient life and cylons keep tracking them, then they would not have needed to resort to soap opera filler episodes. Such a great series, and I stand by my opinion that Billy should have been the final cylon, would have played well with Roslyns prejudice.
They didn’t even send-out any SAR Raptors for any pilots that might have ejected before they FTL jumped. That’s worse than dying from your ship being hit.
There was quite a schism within the ranks of the Cylons. Some wanted eradication. Others felt that humans were their “parents“ and were part of a sacred path for them both. If they ran into one of the base-stars that was (relatively) pro-human, that base-star would probably prefer to subdue rather than eliminate this special group of humans.
I believe that it was stated in one of the Episodes/Movies from the Cylon perspective that they actually exhausted most of their nuclear stockpile annihilating the colonies and had to resort to using conventional anti-ship missiles.
I love The Expanse for its realism, but I love Battlestar Galactica's "semi-realism" aesthetics of an armored battlestar firing nukes around and WWII-like flak cannons. These and the difficulties onboard the ship, as well as its tension makes BSG my favorite sci-fi television series. Nothing else can top it!
It's the best WW2 in space. It does the concept much better then SW. Especially the ship designs.
2003, CG wasn't too advanced back then, but still, they did an awesome job!
if you enjoy both of the kinda shows you should consider reading the book series The Frontiers Saga by Ryk Brown. Solid books with a lot of this kinda action.
@@Guywiththedimpples "you should consider reading the book series The Frontiers Saga by Ryk Brown"
Is the storyline completed yet? I went to the web site, and they have allot of books in the series, and explanations for a release schedule, but it seemed a bit much to track/understand.
Expanse battles were mostly of smaller vessels and I much prefer capital ships being involved in my sci fi. Which means the Donnager battle in S1 of Expanse was completely epic and was one of the high points of the entire series.
I like how at 5:39 after Gaeta pulls the cable, you can just see that the Virus made it past the final firewall before the screen turns off.
Nice catch! Isn't there an episode later dealing with the Cylon virus?
@@stevk5181 Yes, when our newly found Cylon friend, who is supposedly absolutely undistinguishable from humans, bar super advanced testing developed by Baltar, turns out to have a USB port in her writst 😋
@@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm not really she opens her wrist and shove a cable inside.
@@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm I think it’s implied that she uses direct electrical connection via her blood stream to do it, a much more crude version of the puddles they stick their hands in on the basestars
It’s all basically pseudoscience, but the cool thing is that we do something similar with iPads and stuff, they don’t detect touch, but instead they detect the slight electrical discharge we give off when we touch the screen, this is that concept taken wayyyyyyy further
@@3adgamd3r "It’s all basically pseudoscience" No, it's science fiction. That's a hallmark of the genre, that the suspension of disbelief when it comes to science might be required, because they're talking about things that either aren't possible or aren't possible with our currrent understanding (faster than light travel) or things that just don't exist in our world (a Stargate, for instance)
Love the incredible music of this series. Bear McGreary did an amazing job.
Nukes, realistic space flight, muted sounds in space battles, sick looking ships. God I still love this show.
its flat tho space is fake.
@@0grilo0you’re fake
@0grilo0 hahaha come on now
I can't believe the REBOOT is 19 years old
I can't believe I'm only slightly younger than the reboot
The sheer amount of firepower the Galactica puts out just pleases my innermost nerd so much.
Gives me that ww2 battleship esc feel but applied to a carrier
@@bencurran3204
The Bucket's a tough ol' b*tch.
@@bencurran3204 Galactica is basically a super battleship with two carriers bolted to the side. :P
@@k1productions87and Pegasus pushes that even further with even more guns and 4 carriers bolted to the sides
Dakka - Dakka
I always thought this show did space battles better than any other franchise. The suspense is masterful, the stakes feel desperately real, every hit to the Galactica is painful and you feel how the ship is deteriorating over time, and the combat just has a realism to it.
So true. Most space battles are just flashing lights, here they actually mean something, they are real.
Plus the music that goes with it really enhances it.
Not just feel it. As the show progressed, Galactica was looking more and more beaten-up. Here it looks pristine, while towards the end of the show's run it had multiple dents, missing armour plates, the hull was scorched and it was overall discoloured. Good attention to details like that added to the shows credibility.
@@kasegiyabu5030 The best part about that is that as the show went on tech improved to make those details easier and faster to render.
They exploited that in a way we don't often get to see.
@@Tommykey07
This show made Taiko drums popular.
This show still holds up. It was great then and it's just as wonderful now
So say we all!
It just reminds me that I can NEVER get past the damned tutorial level in "Deadlock" 😅
Some of it does. But man, it really does not look that good retrospectively. And some of the writing is just awful...
@@mylesleggette7520 Awful, like your purist post. But thanks for trying.
Agreed, I was just as stressed out watching this now as I was then.
This show was another level. Still watch episodes now. Stands up to anything made recently
So say we all...!!
I absolutely love that scene, the tension is insane
One of the most nail biting shows ever put on TV.
I saw this series when it was a premiere, after so many years, it still causes me the same emotion and tension. It's magnificent, amazing, Battlestar Galactica forever!!!
The show completely changed after the writers strike. Also the ending didn't make sense. They threw away all their tech into the sun. More than half of the survivors would have died without medical supplies and shelter.
same here wants me to start rewatching it
This was the first episode I saw, and it was entirely by accident: I left the channel on after Stargate SG-1 was over. Within ten minutes, I was hooked.
I saw it when I was a kid in 1978... it was so awesome. I don't even know what this is.
@@juicebirdmedia1406 It's a reimagined version of Galactica. I loved the original as a kid too. But for once, this remake is a great one worth watching! Scifi at it's best, ethical dilemmas, drama and of course hot action. I believe series are watchable on Amazon Prime
A great example of a show succeeding with great acting and storytelling at the forefront
Too bad it's an almost dead concept these days. :(
As someone who used to troubleshoot networks for a living, I can appreciate the colonies for not wanting them.
As a person who also works in networking modern network technologies and theories the cylons wouldn't have a hope.
You can still network key systems just air gap anything that transmits in the wireless
They actually did want them. Turns out the robots that rebelled 50 years ago are so good at hacking networks, that you are better off back to analog ^^
@@SeizureGman Exactly. If the Galactica kept their networks only on the wire, they'd be unhackable by remote. Unless the Cyclons can break the laws of physics.
@@ricwalker6600 Again air gap critical systems from anything wireless and you can network with physical cabling in fact really a ship as big as galactica this has to be the case no way could you operate weapons or engines if the computers in CIC were not hard wired to the systems in each area
"Sir, I was thinking, cylons and their virus... What if we turn off wifi and bluetooth, then they will have no way of hacking into us, right?"
They will try to access via serial port
If you look closely at Gaeta's screen at 5:42, you can see that the Cylons got through the last firewall before the network was broken.
There's a new galactica reboot on the way apparently...
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 How much do you want to bet they completely ruin it.. like EVERY reboot they've done in the last couple of years.
@@natedaniels3655 We'll see. BSG is hard to trump.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 I would've thought Lord of the Rings would be impossible to screw up.. but look how that one turned out.
@@natedaniels3655 Depends on how you think they screwed it up.
There is something about how they panned the camera in the space shots that really made the ships look real, the direction was top-notch, I’d love to know how they decided on the style.
5:39 Got to love those couple of seconds lost being the difference. Haha
They just need some more firewalls 😂
Even having seen the episode, knowing they are going to escape, Apollo is in no danger, and Adama makes it through surgery the tension still has me at the edge of my seat. A series you can literally watch over again and its still good. Though I do agree with one of the other posts that said launching threir tech into the Sun made no sense from a survival standpoint I understood the sentiment.
I would like to think that the Anders Hybrid, at the last moment, just before the fleet went into the Sun, yelled, 'Jump'. This would make a perfect launching point for the new Peacock series by Sam Esmail, if that ever comes about.
Hated that aspect too about giving up their tech. It's not like the Cylons aren't prone to changing their minds.
Nor does it make any sense for advanced, space-faring civilizations to cling to such primitive beliefs as religion. Take that out, and the show is a masterpiece.
@@anthonyobryan3485 Primitive belief? And yet thousands of years later, and all this technology and fancy gizmos... we still have faith. Imagine that!!!
Any day BSG clips upload is a good day.
So say we all!
ambush?? Galactica went back there on purpose to calculate the location of the fleet she had lost in the last hyper jump. no ambush!
How did they lose the fleet? It’s been so long since I saw It?
@@crowejoy after the attack on adama there was complete chaos, in the middle of which his deputy took command. let's just say he managed to make a series of embarrassing mistakes! he was an excellent number 2, but a failure as a leader.
I think it’s either Gaeta or hoshi that give the wrong jump coordinates to half the fleet. Drunk gets pissed. But yeh all because of the chaos of adama getting shot
Rewatching this series for like the fourth time, just finished this episode last night. Hats off to whomever put '420' in the left column of the hacking bits a dozen or so times. Someone had to type all that out.
...whoever names the titles and descriptions has never even watched the show
accidentally "warping" straight into an ambush
If I remember correctly this was an ambush but one they expected to jump into.
Prior to this Galactica and the fleet jumped after a cylon ship detected them, but Galactica got its jump wrong so had to return to the original location and to calculate the jump again (hence the networked computers to do it faster). What makes it interesting is that they never used some of the more advanced tactics they developed later using their jump capable Raptors to deploy decoys before they arrived, force the cyclons to spead out and buying them more time.
@@cgi2002 wasnt an ambush. they new the cylons would be there. ambush means the cylons caught galactica of guard but galactica went in knowing they would be there.
also galatic didn't get the jump wrong. Tigh got the jump wrong because he didn't update the emergency coordinates with the fleet. (was the captains responsibility) who was Tigh at the time
@@RN-19924 knowing your walking into a trap doesn't negate that it's a trap, hence it's still arguably an ambush. It's like the old adage "you know it's a trap right, so next step, spring the trap".
Admittedly its questionable why it would be one, the cylons had no reason we are aware of to suspect that Galactica would return (unless they had a human form telling them it would that we never get told about, we know there were a handful spread throughout the fleet still at this point). It honestly makes you wonder why the base ship was still there unless that was part of how they were tracking the fleet, lots of fancy sensor analysis and computing to figure out were they went (only way I can imagine without spies they'd be able to track the fleet, since their FTL doesn't seem to be limited in its direction, range or anything of the sort, it's never really explained).
As for getting the jump wrong, they did, that it was because Tigh screwed up doesn't change that they got it wrong. Ok technically Galactica got it right, the rest of the fleet got it wrong as he never sent them the new data, but that is a plot hole if it's that way around when you think about it. If the fleet jumped using old data, which Galactica would have already had, then why would they need to return to the original location to follow the fleet, since they'd already know were the fleet went and could have just followed them directly. With it been the other way around it makes more sense but is still a big stupid plot hole as either way your just working out were the fleet went from the location, a location you already have all the data for, you don't need to be there follow the fleet. You started at A, you went to B, fleet to C, there is no logical reason you can't go to C from B when you know how to workout how to go from A to C already, just modify your math to start at B instead, it's just geometry.
@@cgi2002 so every watch they update their emergency jump calculations with new star fixes to compensate with inertia drift. how evre they didnt send it to the fleet.
my hypothesis is these calculations are completey random from the point you calculate. meaning they coundt calculate from point B to C as they would be different, so they had to go to A to redo the calculations. then gator devises to use th FTL computer nav DC and fire control computers to redo and finish the previous calculation in 10m
another hypothesis is the calculations are scrubbed after every watch meaning they had to redo them from point A.
those are my 2 theory's trying to explain it after that could be a plot hole
with the first part. i just presume that base star was staying their just in case they back track or they were doing calculations predicting the fleet movements
God, this was peak Galactica. The urgency, tension, feeling of despair.
1:25 The surgueon asks for a "knife". The aid runs of to the kitchen 😂
so good. i still hold my breathe every time i watch these battle scenes no matter how many times i've seen them
00:31 Always luv whenerver those guns go off ❤ so deep sounding and they mean business!
The space battles were awesome, greatly enhanced by the music and the sound effects. The best ones I ever saw.
The sound effects ruin everything. It was bullcrap in the 1930s and it's bullcrap in our advanced digital era. But okay, series like Battlestar Galactica are Pulp.
@@willemvandeursen3105you are so wrong on so many levels 💀 bsg is anything but pulp. the complete opposite, even more. Bsg is literally ranked as the top 5 objectively best sci fi series ever: many rank it as #1.
This shows space battles were so good
Pretty sure i caught a glimpse of Chiggy von Richthofen in that wave of Cylon fighters.
Thinking back to 2004 when the 1st season came out , Having watched the original series as a kid.... I was shocked, amazed, compelled, addicted.... I WANTED MORE!
A series that just threw you in at the deep end and never gave in.
And 2004 Graphics... can we talk about the graphics.....??? Bear in mind this is a massive multi-episode saga where you have to stretch your budget... It still very much holds up today as it did then.
(Slips out the boxsets)... maybe another run through wouldn't hurt.... :D
As the series went on you can see the episodes where they blew their budget and had to spend the next few episodes on tiny sound stages. lol. It did give a nice mix of epic space opera with the tighter, more human aspects though.
4:44 definitely among my favourite shots in the entire show
Along with the Adama manoeuvre...
@@craigpattenden Also ranks among my favourite shots in the show.
Bonus points for Tigh looking up at the sky *before* it happens, like he'd already worked out Adama's next step.
Starbuck always appear to be the crazy genius pilot (and most of time she is), but a couple of times, Appollo can be even worse than her...
"Hey Dave" - "Sup George?" - "We've been sitting in these ships for millions of cycles" - "Yeah and?" - "Well like I put in a request to become a skin job but haven't heard anything in what seems like forever" - "What? You don't like blowing up humans?" - "I ran the numbers and we primarily just sit in our ships doing nothing. We only get to shoot at things ever so often... I kind of want to learn guitar now maybe bass"
This is one...of the greatest shows on TV
Love these clips!
This series was absolutely incredible.
Season two is such a brilliant roller coaster.
Really great show. They were good at keeping tension high.
Mormons. In. SPAAAAACCCEEEE.
I just can't get over that. lol.
Mormons in space was the OG Battlestar Galactica. The reboot went hard on Greek mythology instead.
4:33 Galactica has crazy flak! It's nearly impenetrable, and if anything do get through that wall of flak it has heavy armor plating.
What's scary is that Galactica didn't even have all of the armor plating it had during the first Cylon war. Most of the outer layer was removed during the armistice period, presumably to save on mass - and thus energy costs.
The best docu-drama EVER!!
I may need to re-watch this :) I still love how, rather than the hand-wavey forcefields so many sci-fi shows give their ships, Galactica uses hull armour and a barrage of artillery fire.
Old / Lazy sci-fi shows uses Shields cuz they didnt want damage their physicals models. Galactica wasn't lazy. You can see every scar that Galactica took until the final episodes. Shields systems are kinda lazy way to do things. Other excelent show don't use shields is The Expanse.
@@TRONvix Agreed, though probably a lot of the time it's as much budget and man-hours as actual laziness.
It's not a question of laziness, but of technology and money. Scenes like this just wouldn't have been possible before the turn of the century and the advent of modern CGI.
McCreary's music is a big part of the feel. I call the osts the Galactica Symphonies.
The hyperlight “jump” is the coolest thing in all of Sci Fi TV 👍👍
Don't you think it's kind of wild their limited tech base somehow figured out space folding?
@@XH1927I don’t think we could build anything even remotely close to a battlestar if we tried.
The minute he says:
"We're getting awful lucky today."
You know there's another shoe to drop.
The greatest Sci Fi television show ever.
Top 5 for sure.
Best series ever
Awesome show !!
This show was an still is amazing
For a civilization capable of traversing interstellar space, the Colonials' medical technology seems to be at the same level as that of 21st century Earth.
i presumed thats what galatica time was based on. our time but we developed space faring. BSG is supposed a fictional prequal to us now hence the story. so everything you we have just not space fareing.
I think the basic idea was that but for a few technological breakthroughs (FTL drive, artificial gravity, the AI that gave us Cylons, etc.), the colonies weren't that far ahead of where we are now. Also, the Galactica itself was an old ship slated for retirement and not necessarily stocked with the best material. From a narrative perspective, it allowed the showrunners/writers to create a more familiar world the viewer could relate to. Out-of-universe, it also saved money as a lot of the props could be just bought off the shelf rather than crafted specifically for the show.
No scifi shows really extrapolates technology that realistically what they do is make a choice for the show they want. Even Star Wars in some ways is oddly futuristic and anachronistic at the same time as its a style.
BSG went for a technology is mostly the same as ours but for the odd need where it isn't - spaceships, an FTL the Cylons. But even those ships largely work as modern aircraft carriers.
It may be a result of the severe resource shortages but basic surgeries are still basic surgeries. The colonies clearly have a "If it ain't broke don't give the Cylons a chance to hack it" mentality.
They basically _are_ early 21st Century Americans, so yeah. The weird part of the show is that they're in spaceships, when (IMO) it would have made more sense as a series about an American aircraft carrier battlegroup with some civilian ships it's trying to protect going through a robot apocalypse. Like _The Last Ship,_ but with more fighter dogfights. Having the Colonials be Americans of the exact era the show aired in broke my suspension of belief from the start. _The Last Ship_ did it better.
Gods I miss this show
God , i loved this series.
Man this was such a good show
Best sci-fi show ever
I love this, I literally love this series and this moment among so many.😍😍😍😍
4:28-4:48 twenty seconds of the some of the greatest space battle special effects ever. Only rivaled by the battlestar/basestar fight in the Resurrection ship episode.
You can see just as Gaeta disconnected the cables, the virus got through
i miss BSG. think its time to watch it again this year.
You know you are old when you watched this as a young adult and its now 20 years old.
This is MY FAV show EVER!
Just once i wanted to see the inside persective of one of thoes Flak turrets
Bearing 487 carom 221? The 12 colonies measure their circles differently? Having more than the usual 360 degrees?
It's probably in arcminutes or in milliradians.
Even in real life there is an established alternate system the GON with 400 Gon to a full circle.
Look up "milliradians" sometime. Alternatives to 360 degress in a circle do exist.
Circle is 2d, in space you are 3d, have to have a 3rd coordinate....
@@rustyjohnson9558 Bearings in space use two circles perpendicular to each other.
Mainframes and pulling physical cables. :) Amazing how far ahead tech has moved since this was created as a vision of the future.
Technology was purposely dumbed down as part of the series lore. Colonial technology had been much more advanced 50 years ago, but the Cylons' ability to hack remote networks forced humans to regress to older tech.
i miss this show sooooo much.
I like how much more professional Hotdog is acting in this engagement. Really shows he got it in his head he isn't THE best and should keep it cool to improve his chances of not getting shot down.
Watching the evolution of Hotdog from a civilian pilot out of his depth in a Viper cockpit to basically leading the Viper strike force during the assault on the Colony is fantastic.
loved all of galactica, one of the best series i watched and got really into. just bugs me that the person who uploaded this misnamed the clip. it wasn't an ambush.
after adama was shot. tigh takes command. the cylon finds the fleet position and attacks. though not used to the command position. Tigh forgot to update the emergency jump coordinates with the fleet and jump to a different position. with no way of knowing where the fleet went. they head back to the position where they left to calculate where the fleet went as stated at 0:47. they knew the cylons would be still there and were prepared to fight. they riskgoing back because they new they couldn't survive without the fleet and vis versa.
Love the military realism you can't fake that!
This show was so good.
Amazing Show and it was done with excellent scrips and story and ending perfectly.
When the astartes arrive
the camera man needs a raise
Best sci-fi series in television history.
"We have a solution for the fleet's position!"
"Break the network!"
*Disconnect cable number 1
*Disconnect cable number 2
*Disconnect cable number 3
That's a total of 8 seconds they wasted. They should've had one marine placing his/her hands on each cable, and as soon as the screen says "fleet position plotted," they pull the cables.
That whining/wailing noise the Raiders did as they fly by is always kinda creepy.
Only think that doesn’t make sense is how they can hack in just cause they have their system networked together. You still need a way in. A wireless signal or something and they seem to be using cables for everything.
What a great show this was
I saw an interview once with Mr. Olmos; he saaid "If you liked the previous BSG, you won't like this one."
I have to respectfully disagree- I was a BIG BSG nerd in 1978 (I was 15) whenit came out, however, I am an even bigger BSG nerd now!
Reboot is grittier, more 'real' (despite the subject matter)- shows how humans in a more realistic light. Some are fighters, others are weaker, and a select few try to spin events in their favor.
I absolutely love this show and wish they would make another one but afraid they would ruin it
They absolutely would ruin it.
Apparently his news is a reboot is in progress
They have the perfect opportunity of making a show set in the First Cylon War with the Galactica serving alongside other battlestars, but as you said, it's a current trend to disrespect the canon that came before and hiring writers who hate their job.
You are right, but if they did make a new show, it could be as good. If the show sucked, this version would still be around.
Just in time, as always
... Just the best.
Tigh maybe a drunk and often all over the place but when Adama was down he manned up and delivered...
And he was a Cylon
I alway find it amazing how they have a loading bar of becoming hacked.
I mean - if you can detect it, you can block it, delete it, change passwords or restart the servers.
The loading bar was calculating the fleets position. The graphic was how fast they were being hacked in real time. Two different things happening, easy to confuse
It's very difficult to do a realistic representation of cyberwarfare from a visually interesting standpoint as almost everything that happens is by definition invisible programs in cyberspace. It does add a extra layer of tension and threat to the Cylons as they have multiple vectors of attack
Best reboot of all time
I never realized that if the virus went all the way that the cylons could have jumped the ship into a star lol
If they combined this series with more exploration of planets that for varying reasons they cannot live on ie planet has sentient life and cylons keep tracking them, then they would not have needed to resort to soap opera filler episodes. Such a great series, and I stand by my opinion that Billy should have been the final cylon, would have played well with Roslyns prejudice.
I enjoyed the series a lot back in the day, but the shaky-cam gets old pretty quick, and the CGI when the vipers were landing was pretty bad.
bearing 487
nice little touches
This is how the chase in The Last Jedi should have been portrayed.
so say we all!
So base ship and base star are the same ship?
i am really not a fan of the whole shaky camera thing...
Please make a new BSG series! and no more premature cancelling! Just do it! We are waiting! Want 4K HDR and war right from episode 1.
Rofl that's a lot of drama on one go. A space battle and a surgery on a flatlining patient
They didn’t even send-out any SAR Raptors for any pilots that might have ejected before they FTL jumped. That’s worse than dying from your ship being hit.
The Cold Death .
So, what was that thing? Some type of boarding craft I'd guess?
a heavy raider. the cylon transport basicly
I can't believe how many people love this ridiculously muddled show.
Never seen this show before, the battle would be cool if it wasn't for the camera man having an epeleptic fit
Good thing the Cylons weren't slinging nukes. Wonder why that is.
There was quite a schism within the ranks of the Cylons. Some wanted eradication. Others felt that humans were their “parents“ and were part of a sacred path for them both. If they ran into one of the base-stars that was (relatively) pro-human, that base-star would probably prefer to subdue rather than eliminate this special group of humans.
I believe that it was stated in one of the Episodes/Movies from the Cylon perspective that they actually exhausted most of their nuclear stockpile annihilating the colonies and had to resort to using conventional anti-ship missiles.
@@astronomybrainiac Nah, it's cos the story couldn't happen if they were using nukes.
Still waiting for the new series.