Very informative video, thank you. Have you ever run your generator for an extended period of time during an outage? About how many gallons per hour did the generator burn please?
Today finally came when Wired Electric came out and installed a new engine into our 20KW Whole House Generator. The old engine had low compression on one cylinder. The generator was 2 years out of warranty. After calling Generac and sending them the serviceman's diagnose of the engine they deemed it "Manufacture Defect". The original warranty was 5 years. I had the generator 7 years. The new Generac Generators now carry a 7 year warranty. I got a call from Generac telling me they were going to cover the cost of a new generator. The serviceman worked on it from 11:30 to 3:45. He put oil in it and fired it up. It ran great. I ask him how long have he seen these generators run without stopping. He told me over 3 weeks when the power came back on. At that time you change the oil and filter and put it back in standby mode. Thank you Generac.
Just completed the break-in period and so far the unit is operating perfectly ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y . I was amazed by just how quiet this little guy is. I kept having to walk down the driveway to the generator to make sure it was still running. In fact, the most annoying noise coming from the set-up is a high-pitched chirping coming from the pressure regulator on the propane line. I suppose it's possible my other propane-powered generator's pressure regulator is making the same noise, but the generator itself is so loud I've never noticed it. Build quality so far is excellent. My only nit is the service panel is a little tricky to remove. I feel like I might break off one of the plastic tabs when bending it back. I probably just need to work out the technique, so will not hold it against Champion.Next week I intend to fully load the unit to charge a large battery pack and will update this review if there's any problem (3000W continuous load vs a rated 3100W capacity while using propane). Absent any trouble there, I'm 100% pleased with this purchase.
Nice documentation video. Your plumber does great piping work. Will say if I'm going to drop that kind of money on a backup system, it would have to be on a concrete equipment pad in lieu of on a few bags of washed stone and a precast plate. Speaking of the stone placement, that's the first time in my career around construction I've seen a level used as a leveling tool! Thanks.
johnniekelly I agree that pipe work was nice. I am an Electrician and a diesel mechanic and first for seeing a level used that way. And I would have poured a concrete pad for the generator to sit on.
Generac has some thing called the "GenPad", which they used and it just makes it so the customer doesnt have a big concrete spot if they remove the generator.
Also prevents uneven settling, secures the generator in place so that it doesn't shift over time, makes maintenance easier. It's not for everybody, but it does make installations fast and more stable than just putting the generator on rocks or a poured pad.
I thought it was a inexperienced person trying to do a down and dirty foundation job. I would have yelled at the guy to use something other than a level to smooth out the washed stones.
Sloppy install. 1st if you noticed in the video when the unit was running the exhaust fumes made the leaf blow at the window. Yes it is said by Generac and some local building codes that 5 feet from a window is fine. False, at the force of the exhaust on that or any generac it will still build up in that window well and you hope that the seals are tight , so that the fumes don't enter the home. 2nd The feeder conduit should have 90* down from the ATS then ran lower to that other conduit to keep it uniformed, with a nicer look. 3rd The gravel just thrown on the ground will eventually sink into the ground causing the pad to be come un level. Yes I a Generac installer for 12 years would have used framed box 32"×52" then poured concrete. Those gen ready pads are a joke.
I wouldn’t own a House without a Generac Generator. Two things on the installation 1) I would have wanted the electrical wire bunched with the rest of the wires out 5he left side of the box and then run it along the lower cable. 2) I would also want the Gas line from the house to the generator installed underground. That makes for a nicer looking job.
You are absolutely right. Both of the electrical and gas lines should of been underground installations. Not only does it look a 1,000x better than strapping seal tight and a SO cable on the side of a solid brick house (Ohhh my god.......), having the lines underground will provide more protection. Yes, running underground with Schedule 80 PVC (with expansion couplings) for all the electrical would of cost a lot more, but it would of be a far more superior and better looking result than strapping it on to the side of the house.
I'd be pissed if some just dumped pee gravel in my grass half assed like that. They could have dug that out a bit, or built a little something to go around the gravel.
That was the first thing that came into my mind when I saw the install. Especially on a brick wall where you cannot paint it. This is the reason I don't let a contractor anywhere close to my house.
I have had mine for about 4 years. I called the company to see what a turn-key job would cost. I believe it was $ 6,000 total. The crews dug the power trenches to the generator, hooked everything up and was finished in 2 days. It has power shedding so if you have a house with an electric stove, electric water heater, heat the house by electricity and central air the controller will turn on things in order as not to pull down the generator. The city inspectors came out and said it was a 1st class install and gave me green tags. The electric company I had mine put in told me they put in about 2 per day. No more having to store gasoline. If the power goes off a week or two you know the gas stations won't have power. It was a very good investment.
@@MT-ji5mh The company is Generators by Wired. The main company is Wired Electric. generatorsbywired.com/ They are on the West side of Houston off of Emnora Street in Spring Branch.
I had mine installed by Wired Electric here in Houston. They are a Generac Certified company that installs about 2 of these per day. It took them 2 days to dig the trench and hook everything up. The city inspectors said it was a first rate installation. We had the power go out several times and the generator came on and run flawless. It pays to have a company that sells and services Generac Guardian generators. They have been factory trained for installation and service. We live in an electric world. When the power goes out in the summer the house can heat up in minutes. Natural gas is storm proof. No more having to run around looking for gas to fill up a portable generator.
I really enjoyed that "technique" of using a bubble level as a scraper to smooth out the pile of rocks used for the pad. And that f****ng hellish music! I almost stabbed a screwdriver through the side of my head listening to it.
@@RB-rl7kv A level will grade gravel readily.... a 4ft level is common for this...especially on such a small area. But then again, you could get your laser level out and use a rake to make it happen..(i wouldn't suggest the latter)
It’s funny as someone who does this very thing for a living to see so many people on one sight. Other than moving the generator/pad and NG/LP hook up I complete everyone of theses step by myself. Including inside to separate the neutral and grounds.
@@hayesmyers2259 ...I do all things electrical with generators.. whole home switch, subpanel or the Genready switches which requires a panel swap....no gas.
they have bolt holes that go through onto the pad. Probably didn't show in the video. If you ever installed one you would know that. Instead of looking through you tube videos trying to find flaws try looking positive things to say? Or you could do what I do, point out in accurate critiques from uninformed people. That pad is the standard most used pad in Kohler and Generac installs. Its NOT " bogus" as you say!!!
@@jessemackenzie6516 The installation is "bogus" on so many points it is comical and the commenters here are accurate to call them out. Please have them install yours and post a video about it one year later!
A buddy of mine had one of these installed, attached to a 500-gallon propane tank. Power has gone off 1 time in 5 years, lol. But it worked that one day. Otherwise, it just self-tests every Saturday at noon. The monthly fee for remote monitoring is too expensive.
A lot do not keep up with regular testing. I've seen home owners that left it sit for 3 years then it didn't start when they needed it because it had NOT run in 3 years!! Equipment, no matter how well built, is no better than the owner.
When power goes out in that neighborhood all the neighbors will wish they got a generator too. They'll be jealous. Picture Mrs Kravits from Bewitched tv show peeking through her window curtains saying "Abner, look at what the Stevens' are doing. What are they up to this time?"
Agreed a cleaner looking install in conduit but not required for Teck cable, which is designed for use without conduit and can be buried in ground as is.
I just had a Generac 22kw generator installed on my house like this one, my electrician installed the cables in conduit and ran it low on the wall so it doesn't look tacky, the plumber did the same with the gas line,I also poured a concrete pad so I don't ever have to worry about it and it all looks great, I would be very unhappy with this crappy and tacky job these “professionals” did..the way the generator was set hap hazardly on that pea gravel and the wiring without conduit ran in the middle of the wall...wow!
Could you do a video review on how well your Generac 22k generator is working, how long it lasts on a gallon of fuel (if you are using gas or diesel), and any other useful info.? Or at least post it here? Edit: and if you do the video, keep the music lower than the talking. lol
It is technically in carflex which is a flexible conduit but yes it does look like crap. Personally all of my generator installs always have the wire ran underground in solid pvc pipe. This would pass an inspection but not on one of my jobs
Generac recommends that you put the generator on a bed of gravel, your supposed to build a frame around the area to hold the gravel in place. The reason for the gravel is to absorb the vibration and helps to reduce noise. Most electric utilities want let you run the power lines from the panel box to the transfer switch through the meter base. Also the gas meter is to small, unless it is a 2lb.system,which it wasn't. A lot of problems with this video.
Absorb vibrations... that's a joke man. That gravel is gonna shift way more than a slab. I for one would rather want a balanced/aligned motor. That thing is gonna burn through some bearings if it's not on a concrete leveled surface.
Adam, FEMA just deed my house property a flood zone, house is about 200 yds from the creek, had the property for 45 years, seen the water rise once 14in. but did not access inside Q. Should I ever install a generator, I would like to have it above the ground 2 feet for that reason. What’s your Thoughts, thanks
Yep... didn't bother to do a nice clean layout or install, just quick and dirty. God forbid the old farts doing the electrical would have to bend over or get down on their knees to route the electrical conduit next to the gas line. And why two electrical conduits? Could have easily fit all the wiring in one conduit not to mention running it straight across the face of the house. Yikes! No pride of workmanship. Bad... just bad
At 8:55 in this video I see only 2 sets of power wires coming to the ATS. Where's the 3rd set and why doesn't this video show all the important power wiring installation? I saw nowhere in the video the intercepting of the incoming utility service wires. I'm just curious as to why the video didn't show that.
@@chas7surf yup.... 4ft steel level i use all the time to finish grade all the time.. I wonder what magic tools those who don't know try to use... :) cheers
Why put the electric cable from the box to the generator so high up on the wall of the house? It looks like shit! Why didn't he go down from the box and the cable goes along the bottom of the house next to that other utility line?
1. You should have poured a concrete pad. 2. You should have run the two wires down from the box then along the bottom of the brick instead of straight across the house....would have looked much better.
I decided to get a bid on a Generac system after watching the infomercial. I just needed the smaller watt one costing $1900 and when they called me to bid the install the cost with permits was $12,000 to $14,000 what a bait and switch informercial if I ever saw one. I bout $1600 generator 5500 watt by Kawasaki and had an electrician install a small switch over box for $300 and it works great. Save your money do it yourself.
Great video. I have a 22kw operating on propane 250 lb tank. I was wondering. I case of a prolonged outage. Is it possible to turn the unit off and restart it. For example if we are out at work during the better half of the day, can we turn it off and restart it when we return if the power is still out.
Sloppy job. Genpad is not supported all the way to the edges. Power and communications conduits should have exited at the bottom of the transfer switch, or a pair of 90 deg elbows used to send the cables down low and run closer to the foundation. If this job had been done at my house, I never would have signed off on it until the deficiencies were fixed.
I agree with you for sure. My daughter is having the same generator installed, I hope they take a little more care in the installation than these guys did.
Agreed on all points. I'm not sure why they would post this as an example of their workmanship. That generator connection is a disgrace. I don't think I've ever seen an installation where they just dumped a few bags of gravel on the ground and set the pad on it. I also notice not a single piece of PPE equipment being worn. IMO, they should have spent a few hundred extra dollars and gotten a Kohler professionally installed.
They use them so they can come back out and charge you again for a job they should have done the first time right. Very tacky install, this install should be called a display only for a residential home. They should do a video of a permanent install with all power lines, natural gas lines buried and the pad level to the ground they should have dug the ground up then back fill the hole with gravel then set the pad on it. I wouldn't pay for a job like that. Too tacky!
I installed the same 22kw Generac generator but I poured a concrete pad and bolted the generator to the pad. It looks much better than the plastic pad used in the video. Great generator though.
lander4545 those genpads actually are preformed concrete fiber mix. Made for the generator specifically with bolt holes to bolt the unit down to it from the inside. I use these on all my installs 3-4 a week average never have a problem with them and actually raise the generator up 3-4 inches depends which pad you order. No one wants a giant cement pad that’s going to cost you more to have custom made
I did a 56''X32''x5-1/2 pad with re-bar for a customer for $350. Yeah I'm not paying $300+ for a crap pad. My pad weights 720lbs it's not going anywhere!
I cannot imagine attaching a gas line to the exterior wall of a structure down here in the states. Also, I'd presume that a gas-fueled setup like this might have come in useless in some parts of Texas this last February when both power and gas pressure were lost. Those large louver openings will also be immediate entry points for all sorts of critters who will then build webs or build nests inside the unit. Panels of fine screen need to be attached inside the louver openings.
@@playscrape Neither was mine. I never said MY gas system lost pressure. Gas pressure WAS lost in some areas though. "The failure of some gas distribution infrastructure, which had not been adequately winterized, resulted in exceedingly high prices for natural gas. Some gas compressor stations lost power when utilities began shutdowns, and overall gas supply fell by 85%."
Installed many commercial gens in the Chicago area, had to use steel conduit with sealtite flex at the gen and all fittings were sealed when entering cabinets to prevent water from entering. Also, had to have a ground rod next to pad to ground the chassis and there was always heater pads under batteries to stay warm in the brutal winter cold. Would have dug out the grass also and had 4 to 6 inches of gravel.
@@lamplighter6794 where your company in Chicago I am going need a generac when I get back to Chicago I need the best. When the lights goes out its come back on in the winter. Without me even touching it lol
Zip ties to piggyback to the electrical conduit??? Zip ties do break, especially outdoors. They last about 3-5 years, even the UV resistant type. Nasty and cheap. Stainless steel hose clamps are much sturdier and longer lasting. A 10 pack at Home Depot are about $12.00.
Depends on location, but highly likely in urban areas that both electrical and gas connex as well as overall workmanship will need to be permitted and inspected. Workers/company will need appropriate certs and licenses (electrical/nat gas/generator install).
A quick question, I had a Generac 16KW whole house generator from 2008-2015 that broke. What I would like to do is use the Generac transfer switch Attached to my home and still wired up, to supply power from a tri-fuel Firman generator. Will it shut down the grid power still when electricity is off, or will I need to somehow shut down the grid power manually while the generator runs. Thank you for your help.
I would have installed the communication and power wires way more below, where the brick starts on the bottom, it downs look right all across the wall like that. It's the year 2021 I wonder if they have improve at all and the units are quieter now
I had a Generac 20 KW generator installed 12-13 December 2016. The GENPAD is more dense than poured concrete . Since installation we have had 4 outages not for very long but long enough that we would of had to replace somethings that thawed? I do not trust our aging power grid anymore I am glad that we made this investment. Of course if you want to get something other than a GENPAD to mount your generator hire somebody to pour it and wait until the concrete cures however long that may be to be up to codes. Lowe's took care of installing it. The even financed it at 5.9 %
They mounted that box directly on top of the wire going to the city water meter ! I would never have these guys do an install for me ! Looks bad all around.
I used to work for Motorola as a installer and did this kind of work all the time and if my boss had seen this quality he would have made me pull it all out. and do it over. I got the idea they were short on power cable and did not care where it was run. It should be lower to the ground and not in direct eyesight. The did it so that it is an eyesore on that lovely brick and there are NO DRIP LOOPS to protect water from going into the works. Piss poor install over all
Well you can put a drip loop outside in areas below a certain temp or it could freeze. If there wasn't a drip loop already installed, most likely that was the reason why.
unless they are in antartica there will be plenty of warm weather that they wont freeze there needs to be drip loops and a sediment trap on the gas line
No comments? Looks good to me and I'm also a Generac dealer. I have them deliver them to the site though and move them to their destination with the cart Generac sells. Wish I had a generator to install every day. I love it.
@@moroccanbrian.4778 I know its 4 years old but You tube is forever....... here come all the experts and Monday morning quarterbacks . Why do you feel the need to critique other peoples work. For the most part they were professional. This is used as an add for promotional services. Your evaluations could impact weather or not this company gets a job or not from a potential customer. Because you feel the need to critique may have a bigger impact then you think. Its to code its not un safe and doesn't look to bad. They are most likely qualified licence and insured . Im sure you could use your eagle eye to point out real hack work that is not to code and dangerous from unlicensed installers unless you are not aware of any codes and just pick low hanging fruit like you did with the pad....
@@jessemackenzie6516 idiot doing work like this using a precast slab sitting on gravel is pathetic I can only assume you would also do quality work like this?
@@robertbutler8004 Yes I suck, cant fix or repair anything and everything thing I do or install is pathetic . You won the you tube awesome guy award. Please print this and pin in on your chest so people who you see will know how great you are and how we are all better with you on the job pointing out how much better you are . I would love to go over my qualifications with you but I am sure they are nothing compared to your achievements. Please except my sincere apology for trying to stick up for someone. You have made me see the light. Do you think we should call the better business bureau on this guy for using gravel to level a pad? We cant let this go un checked!! On a side note if you are browsing the web in the near future and see any work that does not meet the ROBERT BUTLER STANDARDS FOR BETTER BUILDING AND INSTALLATIONS GUIDELINES , could you forward them on to me so I can help rectify the situation? On a serious note, Happy New Year and best wishes.
Good Question. If you are on natural gas, review the fuel demands of the generator you are looking at. Check the pressure and cf/h requirements at full load and review the same for your furnace if gas fired and any other gas appliance that you HAVE to run during the dead of winter in the middle of a power failure. Then contact your gas company engineering dept. They will look at what meter you have, whether you are on a low or high pressure delivery system, and the size of the delivery pipe from the main to your meter, and let you know whether you are good to go or need to upgrade the meter and/or supply pipe. If you are on a low pressure system it is possible that you cannot supply the size generator you need. I had to increase the size of both to handle my 20 KW Briggs & Stratton generator in upstate NY. National Fuel charged me a $1,000 to go from a 1 1/8" to 1 1/4" pipe and $145.00 for a larger meter. %$#&@! Yes I had to pay for their equipment that they retain ownership of so I was able to buy more of their product. But hey, if I didn't like it I could always do business with the other gas company. Oh wait a minute, there is no other gas company. Still, it is well worth the expense to have power during blackouts in the winter or during a heat wave. If you can afford it AND if there is an authorized Kohler dealer who will maintain and service the generator in your area, I would highly recommend a Kohler over the Briggs, Generac or GE. Generac is the economy brand in price and reliability. Yes, I know, they sell a lot of them and some people have had good luck with them, but the service history and reliability of both the engines and alternator just does not come close to Kohler. Briggs is not that great either, my first one was a total lemon. Briggs replaced the engine after about 30 hours and then the alternator went Tango Uniform after 84 hours and was non repairable. Briggs replaced the entire unit under warranty after a lot of back and forth. So far so good after about 150 hrs of operation, much of it under no load as the unit automatically exercises itself once a week for 20 minutes.
@@sunny71169 thanks for the info. yep they’re a legal monopoly. It’s crazy what they can get away with. As far as the Briggs goes I usually try to avoid them when possible anyway. They’re not terrible engines it’s just that there are a lot of better ones out there.
We will have one of these when our new home is finished being built. June 1st 2018 closing date This will be a must as wife has MS and having lights out in bad weather will not be a option I wonder how much parts and labor are on this to install
Do you have any idea where to purchase the plastic cover for the LED indicator light. The cover looks like a bubble which protects the LED. Any help will be appreciated! Thank you.
I agree, This is a "How Not To Install a generator". Whats scary is that these guys think this is a good job! Imagine what it looks like when the camera is not there!
@@joejeans7913 ....the generator cable needs to be in conduit. But that just my opinion. The authority having jurisdiction (electrical inspector) will determine that.
No plastic level is professional. They probably bought it at Walmarts or Harbor Freight. But using it as a trowel shows they didn't know how to use it. And I didn't see them even bolt the generator to the pad. Makes me question what the homeowner was doing while this installation was going on. Having worked with generators, I watched everything they did while they installed mine.
looks like instalation would easily equal the amount spend on the generator itself. i just got a quote of $650 for just a simple 30A transfer outlet for the electrical panel and a plug in on the outside of the wall.
I am looking for exactly the same now. Just got few quotes from yelp, range is between $500 and $800 but I had stated in my question that I will buy the switch myself, which is another $350. This is for Boston Area. There's just one company that said their range is $650-$950 but they work with their own materials. But if it is $950 it comes close to what I'd pay whoever else I choose (if they don't charge me the top end and I buy the switch). I think a decent 8000w generator (which I also have to buy) is about $999 so wiring up a house for one is like buying one. Service is expensive, I guess that's the price I deserve for not learning electrical stuff myself.
You both would probably spend that same money on fixing your car and not think twice, these installs last a lifetime a car repair does not, a license is not required to repair a car. Any Joe schmo can do that.
I'm buying a 22kw Genaric natural gas generator. I should have it installed in a few weeks. Now I can be a total jerk to my neighbors. They are already are going to be pissed off that my whole house including my hot tub will be running. But, I like my neighbors and my neighbors like me. This generator is 66db. Any way to quiet this thing down?
All of those who are complaining about their installation of the cable on the wall. Answer one question. What does the local code in Toronto require? Before you make comments that are totally insignificant think first. This was a very neat professional installation.
Steven Phillips : Local codes do not require your electrical to be ran in the middle of the wall.... also, the gen pad literally can’t be installed on stone. That is direct from Diversitech the actual manufacturer. The gas flex pipe can’t be installed directly out of the generator, it needs to be installed horizontally with the unit. That’s in the install manual. I have been installing these units for about 20 years and will say it’s an ok job but needs to be tightened up. Yes most people commenting on here have either not installed them or have installed a few. At The company I work for we have installed 2-3 a day for the last 6 years. This unit is not in compliance with generacs warranty. Period. The stone base will fail and the stone is or will be gone. That’s a fact. Sorry just needed to say something.
Lots of Electricians ignore this however for this to be a perfect job...According to the CEC the cable needs mechanical protection under 5 feet. Teck armour is not considered any better than NMD for protection in the CEC. The mechanical protection could be provided by location, conduit, 1-1/2" of wood, or buried more that 2 ft down in sand 2" of sand passed through a screen no greater than .75" But hey I'm splitting hairs here - Other than that looks great! well done, nice job.
"This unit is not in compliance with generacs warranty. Period." NOW that is a need to know, IF I had of read that, in the manual after the install, they would have to redo it!
Remember code is a minimum ..... a True Electrician would go above and beyond those requirements , horrible foundation work, should have been a concrete pad. First off second zip ties werent UV rated, third , should have been in either rigid or pvc conduit. professional installation... not backyard electricians getting paid 15 dollars an hour.
I would be horrified to see this installation on my home. Two bags of gravel will not stabilize a running generator, and the lack of coordination with so many crew is disturbing....
I don'y have gas here in Florida (I do but the cost is out of reach because the have to pull from a main line on the street and then install a meter. I would consider LPG or natural gas. Yes it will need the addition of a tank somewhere, but I would rather have a tank that I can meter than take a chance of a broken gas line around the house or on the block somewhere.
Generators at full cry consume a lot of gas, how much is on the web site. Gas meters have limits on how much gas they can pass and piping has limits on how much gas can go through a given diameter and length, so you will always need a direct connex from the meter. Sometimes you have to replace the gas meter if it cannot supply the furnace/stove and generator demand.
Why would some run carflex for that long of a run? At least use EMT or PVC and go down and follow the existing conduit. Flex from that to the generator. Secondly, it looks like the exhaust is venting right above the basement window, being as carbon monoxide is heavier than air, if hope no ones living in the basement.
This installation screams unprofessional and tacky. Highlights included randomly pouring gravel onto the ground. No trenching or tampering ground at all. Funniest part was using a level as a trowl. Then to top it off, running the tackiest set of electrical wiring along the side of house.
I would have held that plumbing and conduit down by the lower edge of the facia and would have made all conduit openings on bottom of transfer switch. Also, the grass and topsoil should have been removed down 6-8 inches and filled with gravel and compacted. At least they put heaters on filter and crankcase. I have never installed a gaseous fuel generator without a fuel Y strainer. At least a drip leg should have been installed. Not a great install but so much better than many I have seen. I didn't see any wires pulled for the heaters. Are they running off the commmunication wires?
You like how he put bags of gravel and used a level to level it? LOL. Code requires galvanized gas pipe for out door applications also. Not steel pipe so it can start to rust right away. There sediment drain is wrong also. You dont come across into a "T" fitting. You come up over and down into the "T" fitting. Good luck with that.
John K sorry, but you are incorrect. In most areas galvanized pipe is illegal for gas lines. However, the black pipe needs to be painted or wrapped to prevent rust.
Very informative video, thank you. Have you ever run your generator for an extended period of time during an outage? About how many gallons per hour did the generator burn please?
2-3 gallons an hour
Depends on what all you have running ‼️🤔
Today finally came when Wired Electric came out and installed
a new engine into our 20KW Whole House Generator.
The old engine had low compression on one cylinder.
The generator was 2 years out of warranty. After calling Generac
and sending them the serviceman's diagnose of the engine
they deemed it "Manufacture Defect".
The original warranty was 5 years. I had the generator 7 years. The
new Generac Generators now carry a 7 year warranty.
I got a call from Generac telling me they were going to cover the
cost of a new generator.
The serviceman worked on it from 11:30 to 3:45.
He put oil in it and fired it up. It ran great.
I ask him how long have he seen these generators run without stopping.
He told me over 3 weeks when the power came back on. At that
time you change the oil and filter and put it back in standby mode.
Thank you Generac.
*Lightweight, quiet and versatile. I love the duel fuel operation. I feel this **Generater.Systems** was a great value.*
Just completed the break-in period and so far the unit is operating perfectly ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y . I was amazed by just how quiet this little guy is. I kept having to walk down the driveway to the generator to make sure it was still running. In fact, the most annoying noise coming from the set-up is a high-pitched chirping coming from the pressure regulator on the propane line. I suppose it's possible my other propane-powered generator's pressure regulator is making the same noise, but the generator itself is so loud I've never noticed it. Build quality so far is excellent. My only nit is the service panel is a little tricky to remove. I feel like I might break off one of the plastic tabs when bending it back. I probably just need to work out the technique, so will not hold it against Champion.Next week I intend to fully load the unit to charge a large battery pack and will update this review if there's any problem (3000W continuous load vs a rated 3100W capacity while using propane). Absent any trouble there, I'm 100% pleased with this purchase.
Nice documentation video. Your plumber does great piping work. Will say if I'm going to drop that kind of money on a backup system, it would have to be on a concrete equipment pad in lieu of on a few bags of washed stone and a precast plate. Speaking of the stone placement, that's the first time in my career around construction I've seen a level used as a leveling tool! Thanks.
johnniekelly I agree that pipe work was nice. I am an Electrician and a diesel mechanic and first for seeing a level used that way. And I would have poured a concrete pad for the generator to sit on.
Generac has some thing called the "GenPad", which they used and it just makes it so the customer doesnt have a big concrete spot if they remove the generator.
Also prevents uneven settling, secures the generator in place so that it doesn't shift over time, makes maintenance easier. It's not for everybody, but it does make installations fast and more stable than just putting the generator on rocks or a poured pad.
I thought it was a inexperienced person trying to do a down and dirty foundation job. I would have yelled at the guy to use something other than a level to smooth out the washed stones.
Sloppy install. 1st if you noticed in the video when the unit was running the exhaust fumes made the leaf blow at the window. Yes it is said by Generac and some local building codes that 5 feet from a window is fine. False, at the force of the exhaust on that or any generac it will still build up in that window well and you hope that the seals are tight , so that the fumes don't enter the home. 2nd The feeder conduit should have 90* down from the ATS then ran lower to that other conduit to keep it uniformed, with a nicer look. 3rd The gravel just thrown on the ground will eventually sink into the ground causing the pad to be come un level. Yes I a Generac installer for 12 years would have used framed box 32"×52" then poured concrete. Those gen ready pads are a joke.
I wouldn’t own a House without a Generac Generator. Two things on the installation 1) I would have wanted the electrical wire bunched with the rest of the wires out 5he left side of the box and then run it along the lower cable. 2) I would also want the Gas line from the house to the generator installed underground. That makes for a nicer looking job.
You are absolutely right. Both of the electrical and gas lines should of been underground installations. Not only does it look a 1,000x better than strapping seal tight and a SO cable on the side of a solid brick house (Ohhh my god.......), having the lines underground will provide more protection. Yes, running underground with Schedule 80 PVC (with expansion couplings) for all the electrical would of cost a lot more, but it would of be a far more superior and better looking result than strapping it on to the side of the house.
Thanks for the video - one comment about electrical is the horizontal line at 3ft up the wall would look better installed down low :)
Would have looked better in ridgid and then a piece of flex to tie into the cabinet.
So I’m not the only electrician watching.
I was coming here to comment and I agree!
I'd be pissed if some just dumped pee gravel in my grass half assed like that.
They could have dug that out a bit, or built a little something to go around the gravel.
That was the first thing that came into my mind when I saw the install. Especially on a brick wall where you cannot paint it. This is the reason I don't let a contractor anywhere close to my house.
I have had mine for about 4 years. I called the company to see what a turn-key job would cost. I believe it was $ 6,000 total. The crews dug the power trenches to the generator, hooked everything up and was finished in 2 days.
It has power shedding so if you have a house with an electric stove, electric water heater, heat the house by electricity and central air the controller will turn on things in order as not to pull down the generator.
The city inspectors came out and said it was a 1st class install and gave me green tags.
The electric company I had mine put in told me they put in about 2 per day.
No more having to store gasoline. If the power goes off a week or two you know the gas stations won't have power.
It was a very good investment.
What company and Where was this at? I want to get one installed in my house.
@@MT-ji5mh The company is Generators by Wired. The main company is Wired Electric.
generatorsbywired.com/
They are on the West side of Houston off of Emnora Street in Spring Branch.
How much you paid for electrical installation?
put a concrete slab down and should definitely use conduit and flex tubing, you could run both lines through one conduit.
I was going to mention concrete slab, but your comment was at the top of the list.
Oh gawd, the music, the music...
I had mine installed by Wired Electric here in Houston. They are a Generac Certified company that installs about 2 of these per day. It took them 2 days to dig the trench and hook everything up. The city inspectors said it was a first rate installation. We had the power go out several times and the generator came on and run flawless.
It pays to have a company that sells and services Generac Guardian generators. They have been factory trained for installation and service.
We live in an electric world. When the power goes out in the summer the house can heat up in minutes. Natural gas is storm proof. No more having to run around looking for gas to fill up a portable generator.
D. - how much did your install cost? thanks
Nothing like hammer drilling concrete right above the electronics in the transfer switch.
Nothing like a heating and cooling company installing a …. Generator…? Lol
Excellent video on so many things no to do.
I really enjoyed that "technique" of using a bubble level as a scraper to smooth out the pile of rocks used for the pad. And that f****ng hellish music! I almost stabbed a screwdriver through the side of my head listening to it.
BFT, what kind of a screwdriver?
What else would you use but a LEVEL to level out some rocks? 🤣🤣🤣
@@RB-rl7kv A level will grade gravel readily.... a 4ft level is common for this...especially on such a small area. But then again, you could get your laser level out and use a rake to make it happen..(i wouldn't suggest the latter)
@@bruceb3786 #1 Phillips. Too large and you won't penetrate as deeply.
@@kg7jev671 , agreed. Good choice.
I would like to see a one year follow up report on the condition of this instation.
Wondering how much the install price was for this large generator?
It’s around 12k Canadian dollars
It’s funny as someone who does this very thing for a living to see so many people on one sight. Other than moving the generator/pad and NG/LP hook up I complete everyone of theses step by myself. Including inside to separate the neutral and grounds.
nice. If you are a sparky and gas fitter you could do that.
@@hayesmyers2259 ...I do all things electrical with generators.. whole home switch, subpanel or the Genready switches which requires a panel swap....no gas.
Just an opportunity for the employees to be on video. Chill Out!
what keeps that generator set from walking off that bogus pad and taking the gas line and power cable with it???
they have bolt holes that go through onto the pad. Probably didn't show in the video. If you ever installed one you would know that. Instead of looking through you tube videos trying to find flaws try looking positive things to say? Or you could do what I do, point out in accurate critiques from uninformed people. That pad is the standard most used pad in Kohler and Generac installs. Its NOT " bogus" as you say!!!
Only thing holding that from walking is the gas line 😝
I will drill four holes in the pad and drive four grounding rods eigh feet down the ground, that will keep it in place and it won't even be seen..
@@oror3837 oh my
@@jessemackenzie6516 The installation is "bogus" on so many points it is comical and the commenters here are accurate to call them out. Please have them install yours and post a video about it one year later!
How many people here from Texas after this last week?
From manvel tx
Hutto TX...what a nightmare of a week.
@D G lol nice! Where in peatland?
Pasadena Tx. Like 4 of my neighbors are getting it installed. Including our home as well.
@@MikeXZuniga San Antonio here and looking at getting something as well. should check out the Cummins lineup though, they seem a little better built.
A buddy of mine had one of these installed, attached to a 500-gallon propane tank. Power has gone off 1 time in 5 years, lol. But it worked that one day. Otherwise, it just self-tests every Saturday at noon. The monthly fee for remote monitoring is too expensive.
A lot do not keep up with regular testing. I've seen home owners that left it sit for 3 years then it didn't start when they needed it because it had NOT run in 3 years!! Equipment, no matter how well built, is no better than the owner.
I'm from Houston and we've had several blackouts during the last 3 to 4 years. Either complete hot hell or complete cold hell.
I had a 20 kw put in 5 years ago and it is great. We were down three days a year ago and I was the only one with power. Highly recommend it.
Hi Matthew,
Awesome! Really glad to hear that.
When power goes out in that neighborhood all the neighbors will wish they got a generator too. They'll be jealous. Picture Mrs Kravits from Bewitched tv show peeking through her window curtains saying "Abner, look at what the Stevens' are doing. What are they up to this time?"
You right,Agh!Needed different tunes.Nice foundation,quick and easy
Why the exposed high voltage cable running across the wall of the house ( should be in pipe)
yes and why not bring it down and along the bottom instead of right across the open wall, sloppy
Agreed a cleaner looking install in conduit but not required for Teck cable, which is designed for use without conduit and can be buried in ground as is.
My FIRST thought was B4 reading others is, WHY spend that kind of money to have that Gen sitting on gravel, so HOKIE
Numa Newbern can’t take timeo remove the GRASS.
I was waiting for him to use the level to smash the packing crate from the generator, worked fine as a gravel leveling tool. So funny.
common sense and practicality; not as funny as it is mature ... you child
The grass should have been removed before the crushed stone was set down. It will decompose and the unit may no longer be level. Cutting corners.
Level ground with some paver sand and a few paver stones would have been much better.
Giv it a year and it will be un-level by a blade of grass.😂😂
If you're going to use your level as a trowel, don't expect it to be very accurate as a level.
dumazz
done all the time...easy to clean the level after.
No problem! They can get another one at Dollar tree!!
Great video but why not pour a concrete pad for the generator its very expensive oh well just a thought...
luxury carkey720 2-3K for a generator is not expensive 😂😂😂
@@lottsaquatics4385 Why would you think it'd cost $2k-3k to have a pad poured? It should be much much cheaper than that.
@@Blueknight1960 not the pad. The generator itself.
@@lottsaquatics4385 Ahh, ok .
@@lottsaquatics4385 22kw are around $5000 might want to do some research before talking
I just had a Generac 22kw generator installed on my house like this one, my electrician installed the cables in conduit and ran it low on the wall so it doesn't look tacky, the plumber did the same with the gas line,I also poured a concrete pad so I don't ever have to worry about it and it all looks great,
I would be very unhappy with this crappy and tacky job these “professionals” did..the way the generator was set hap hazardly on that pea gravel and the wiring without conduit ran in the middle of the wall...wow!
Can you send me photos and maybe tell me what hangars they used to mount the 1 1/4” gas line? mwkoenig1968@gmail.com. I’m fixing to put one in myself.
You saved me the comment.
Could you do a video review on how well your Generac 22k generator is working, how long it lasts on a gallon of fuel (if you are using gas or diesel), and any other useful info.? Or at least post it here? Edit: and if you do the video, keep the music lower than the talking. lol
You’re right dark lord
It is technically in carflex which is a flexible conduit but yes it does look like crap. Personally all of my generator installs always have the wire ran underground in solid pvc pipe. This would pass an inspection but not on one of my jobs
How much does a typical install cost, minus the cost for the generator itself?
Generac recommends that you put the generator on a bed of gravel, your supposed to build a frame around the area to hold the gravel in place. The reason for the gravel is to absorb the vibration and helps to reduce noise. Most electric utilities want let you run the power lines from the panel box to the transfer switch through the meter base. Also the gas meter is to small, unless it is a 2lb.system,which it wasn't. A lot of problems with this video.
i support you
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Absorb vibrations... that's a joke man. That gravel is gonna shift way more than a slab. I for one would rather want a balanced/aligned motor. That thing is gonna burn through some bearings if it's not on a concrete leveled surface.
Adam, FEMA just deed my house property a flood zone, house is about 200 yds from the creek, had the property for 45 years, seen the water rise once 14in. but did not access inside Q. Should I ever install a generator, I would like to have it above the ground 2 feet for that reason. What’s your Thoughts, thanks
@@micha6887 A Generator is never a bad thing bud. Better to have it than not have it.
This is what happens when you use an air conditioning company to install your electric generator
Yep... didn't bother to do a nice clean layout or install, just quick and dirty. God forbid the old farts doing the electrical would have to bend over or get down on their knees to route the electrical conduit next to the gas line. And why two electrical conduits? Could have easily fit all the wiring in one conduit not to mention running it straight across the face of the house. Yikes! No pride of workmanship. Bad... just bad
Put gen pad on top of the grass? Cheap and dirty.
The signal and low voltage wiring can't be ran with the power wires. It's the only thing they did right.
How deep for a concrete pad? Ready mix cement ok?
At 8:55 in this video I see only 2 sets of power wires coming to the ATS. Where's the 3rd set and why doesn't this video show all the important power wiring installation? I saw nowhere in the video the intercepting of the incoming utility service wires. I'm just curious as to why the video didn't show that.
Man that music is getting on my nerves 😱
I was able to change my battery and do the tune up thanks to your video. Thank you!
Never knew you could use your level as a screed!
go back to answering the phone at your desk job
@@chas7surf yup.... 4ft steel level i use all the time to finish grade all the time.. I wonder what magic tools those who don't know try to use... :) cheers
Why put the electric cable from the box to the generator so high up on the wall of the house? It looks like shit! Why didn't he go down from the box and the cable goes along the bottom of the house next to that other utility line?
1. You should have poured a concrete pad. 2. You should have run the two wires down from the box then along the bottom of the brick instead of straight across the house....would have looked much better.
They all use precast light weight pads
I decided to get a bid on a Generac system after watching the infomercial. I just needed the smaller watt one costing $1900 and when they called me to bid the install the cost with permits was $12,000 to $14,000 what a bait and switch informercial if I ever saw one. I bout $1600 generator 5500 watt by Kawasaki and had an electrician install a small switch over box for $300 and it works great. Save your money do it yourself.
Zip ties to hold the wire to the other conduit? Those will fail in a year.
No they won't. Wire ties last a long time.
they are not UV rated -_- crap installation!
@@mainoleg how the fuck do you know; fuckin dumazz!
wrong!
@@chas7surf because white zip ties are not uv rated, and zip ties don't do well in temperature changes. They become brittle.
Great video. I have a 22kw operating on propane 250 lb tank. I was wondering. I case of a prolonged outage. Is it possible to turn the unit off and restart it. For example if we are out at work during the better half of the day, can we turn it off and restart it when we return if the power is still out.
Yes. It's called "Manual"
Sloppy job. Genpad is not supported all the way to the edges. Power and communications conduits should have exited at the bottom of the transfer switch, or a pair of 90 deg elbows used to send the cables down low and run closer to the foundation. If this job had been done at my house, I never would have signed off on it until the deficiencies were fixed.
I agree with you for sure. My daughter is having the same generator installed, I hope they take a little more care in the installation than these guys did.
They're Canadian
Agreed on all points. I'm not sure why they would post this as an example of their workmanship. That generator connection is a disgrace. I don't think I've ever seen an installation where they just dumped a few bags of gravel on the ground and set the pad on it. I also notice not a single piece of PPE equipment being worn. IMO, they should have spent a few hundred extra dollars and gotten a Kohler professionally installed.
what"s that got to do with anything?
i see all the experts are out to critique the job
Does the battery need to be a 26R?
How long to you think those zip ties will last holding the other electric line to the other one? JACK LEGGED!
They use them so they can come back out and charge you again for a job they should have done the first time right. Very tacky install, this install should be called a display only for a residential home. They should do a video of a permanent install with all power lines, natural gas lines buried and the pad level to the ground they should have dug the ground up then back fill the hole with gravel then set the pad on it. I wouldn't pay for a job like that. Too tacky!
I installed the same 22kw Generac generator but I poured a concrete pad and bolted the generator to the pad. It looks much better than the plastic pad used in the video. Great generator though.
lander4545 those genpads actually are preformed concrete fiber mix. Made for the generator specifically with bolt holes to bolt the unit down to it from the inside. I use these on all my installs 3-4 a week average never have a problem with them and actually raise the generator up 3-4 inches depends which pad you order. No one wants a giant cement pad that’s going to cost you more to have custom made
I did a 56''X32''x5-1/2 pad with re-bar for a customer for $350. Yeah I'm not paying $300+ for a crap pad. My pad weights 720lbs it's not going anywhere!
I cannot imagine attaching a gas line to the exterior wall of a structure down here in the states. Also, I'd presume that a gas-fueled setup like this might have come in useless in some parts of Texas this last February when both power and gas pressure were lost. Those large louver openings will also be immediate entry points for all sorts of critters who will then build webs or build nests inside the unit. Panels of fine screen need to be attached inside the louver openings.
House clamps are pretty common
Our gas was never off during the whole time. So Im not sure what gas company you use.
I'm in Austin. We never lost Gas in Feb 2021 Winter Storm.
@@playscrape Neither was mine. I never said MY gas system lost pressure. Gas pressure WAS lost in some areas though.
"The failure of some gas distribution infrastructure, which had not been adequately winterized, resulted in exceedingly high prices for natural gas. Some gas compressor stations lost power when utilities began shutdowns, and overall gas supply fell by 85%."
What good is it and it's setting on ground what about it flood out some ... I set mine generac 7 feet off ground
The electrical running on the house looks tacky and unprofessional smh
Same with the gas line.
Installed many commercial gens in the Chicago area, had to use steel conduit with sealtite flex at the gen and all fittings were sealed when entering cabinets to prevent water from entering. Also, had to have a ground rod next to pad to ground the chassis and there was always heater pads under batteries to stay warm in the brutal winter cold. Would have dug out the grass also and had 4 to 6 inches of gravel.
I agree. On mine everything was buried. Anyone getting on installed I would have them bury it for a clean look.
@@lamplighter6794 where your company in Chicago I am going need a generac when I get back to Chicago I need the best. When the lights goes out its come back on in the winter. Without me even touching it lol
Zip ties to piggyback to the electrical conduit??? Zip ties do break, especially outdoors. They last about 3-5 years, even the UV resistant type. Nasty and cheap. Stainless steel hose clamps are much sturdier and longer lasting. A 10 pack at Home Depot are about $12.00.
Why do you install that cable so high on the wall? Why not bring not next to the other pipe?
Does it need to be inspected by local building codes?
A plus Generator can I use this generator every day?
Depends on location, but highly likely in urban areas that both electrical and gas connex as well as overall workmanship will need to be permitted and inspected.
Workers/company will need appropriate certs and licenses (electrical/nat gas/generator install).
@@1985-o7g no
absolutely
@@schsch2390 does not depend on location ; absolutely does need inspection
A quick question, I had a Generac 16KW whole house generator from 2008-2015 that broke. What I would like to do is use the Generac transfer switch Attached to my home and still wired up, to supply power from a tri-fuel Firman generator. Will it shut down the grid power still when electricity is off, or will I need to somehow shut down the grid power manually while the generator runs. Thank you for your help.
Lol so Everyone's a professional
I'm definitely getting one of these
Love the video!
I work construction for a living you can tell these guys are cutting corners. Very unprof6
@@RG-st7ms but not generator installs....hmmmmm, ok handy man
I'm a professional mechanic and these guys are hacks and you're an idiot or a bot.
@@chas7surf
Shouldn't talk about what you do not know. This was trash and against code. Electrical engineer BTW. Design and install systems.
I would have installed the communication and power wires way more below, where the brick starts on the bottom, it downs look right all across the wall like that.
It's the year 2021 I wonder if they have improve at all and the units are quieter now
A little skimpy on the gravel base. Nice leveling job using a level as a screed.
You don't remove the grass before putting down the gravel?
Ok, nice but can you give us an idea of the approximate cost of installation aside from the cost of the generator itself.
six to seven k
I had a Generac 20 KW generator installed 12-13 December 2016. The GENPAD is more dense than poured concrete . Since installation we have had 4 outages not for very long but long enough that we would of had to replace somethings that thawed? I do not trust our aging power grid anymore I am glad that we made this investment. Of course if you want to get something other than a GENPAD to mount your generator hire somebody to pour it and wait until the concrete cures however long that may be to be up to codes. Lowe's took care of installing it. The even financed it at 5.9 %
Well looks easy . I'll plan on the install only taking me 14 minutes
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Lmao
Did they not have a shovel?
They mounted that box directly on top of the wire going to the city water meter ! I would never have these guys do an install for me ! Looks bad all around.
I used to work for Motorola as a installer and did this kind of work all the time and if my boss had seen this quality he would have made me pull it all out. and do it over. I got the idea they were short on power cable and did not care where it was run. It should be lower to the ground and not in direct eyesight. The did it so that it is an eyesore on that lovely brick and there are NO DRIP LOOPS to protect water from going into the works. Piss poor install over all
plastic zip ties to hold up the generator wiring no drip loops no drip in the gas line gas connector hose too short ...... looks like a hack job to me
Well you can put a drip loop outside in areas below a certain temp or it could freeze. If there wasn't a drip loop already installed, most likely that was the reason why.
unless they are in antartica there will be plenty of warm weather that they wont freeze there needs to be drip loops and a sediment trap on the gas line
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Great Job! I love the way the job was handled, everyone knew what their part to play was.
There are experts and do this daily.
Wish I could watch this video past 10 seconds due to the horrible annoying music.
I couldn't take more than 15 seconds.
I downloaded that song - great tunes !!!
Du hast mesh
@@jray8704 i hate you too!😁
Hi E. Valentin!
Sorry about the music!
No comments? Looks good to me and I'm also a Generac dealer. I have them deliver them to the site though and move them to their destination with the cart Generac sells. Wish I had a generator to install every day. I love it.
Terrible job with the gravel and pad. Pure lazy!
100% right.
The first thing I said.
A lot of dirt left behind the generator exposed.
A couple of pictures would do better before and after instead of running a video on fast fast forward you showed it before and after thank you
@@moroccanbrian.4778 I know its 4 years old but You tube is forever....... here come all the experts and Monday morning quarterbacks . Why do you feel the need to critique other peoples work. For the most part they were professional. This is used as an add for promotional services. Your evaluations could impact weather or not this company gets a job or not from a potential customer. Because you feel the need to critique may have a bigger impact then you think. Its to code its not un safe and doesn't look to bad. They are most likely qualified licence and insured . Im sure you could use your eagle eye to point out real hack work that is not to code and dangerous from unlicensed installers unless you are not aware of any codes and just pick low hanging fruit like you did with the pad....
@@jessemackenzie6516 idiot doing work like this using a precast slab sitting on gravel is pathetic I can only assume you would also do quality work like this?
@@robertbutler8004 Yes I suck, cant fix or repair anything and everything thing I do or install is pathetic . You won the you tube awesome guy award. Please print this and pin in on your chest so people who you see will know how great you are and how we are all better with you on the job pointing out how much better you are . I would love to go over my qualifications with you but I am sure they are nothing compared to your achievements. Please except my sincere apology for trying to stick up for someone. You have made me see the light. Do you think we should call the better business bureau on this guy for using gravel to level a pad? We cant let this go un checked!! On a side note if you are browsing the web in the near future and see any work that does not meet the ROBERT BUTLER STANDARDS FOR BETTER BUILDING AND INSTALLATIONS GUIDELINES , could you forward them on to me so I can help rectify the situation? On a serious note, Happy New Year and best wishes.
Would using gas appliances and gas fireplaces while the generator is running starve it for fuel? Or is there enough pressure for everything?
Good Question. If you are on natural gas, review the fuel demands of the generator you are looking at. Check the pressure and cf/h requirements at full load and review the same for your furnace if gas fired and any other gas appliance that you HAVE to run during the dead of winter in the middle of a power failure. Then contact your gas company engineering dept. They will look at what meter you have, whether you are on a low or high pressure delivery system, and the size of the delivery pipe from the main to your meter, and let you know whether you are good to go or need to upgrade the meter and/or supply pipe. If you are on a low pressure system it is possible that you cannot supply the size generator you need.
I had to increase the size of both to handle my 20 KW Briggs & Stratton generator in upstate NY. National Fuel charged me a $1,000 to go from a 1 1/8" to 1 1/4" pipe and $145.00 for a larger meter. %$#&@! Yes I had to pay for their equipment that they retain ownership of so I was able to buy more of their product. But hey, if I didn't like it I could always do business with the other gas company. Oh wait a minute, there is no other gas company. Still, it is well worth the expense to have power during blackouts in the winter or during a heat wave.
If you can afford it AND if there is an authorized Kohler dealer who will maintain and service the generator in your area, I would highly recommend a Kohler over the Briggs, Generac or GE. Generac is the economy brand in price and reliability. Yes, I know, they sell a lot of them and some people have had good luck with them, but the service history and reliability of both the engines and alternator just does not come close to Kohler. Briggs is not that great either, my first one was a total lemon. Briggs replaced the engine after about 30 hours and then the alternator went Tango Uniform after 84 hours and was non repairable. Briggs replaced the entire unit under warranty after a lot of back and forth. So far so good after about 150 hrs of operation, much of it under no load as the unit automatically exercises itself once a week for 20 minutes.
@@sunny71169 thanks for the info. yep they’re a legal monopoly. It’s crazy what they can get away with. As far as the Briggs goes I usually try to avoid them when possible anyway. They’re not terrible engines it’s just that there are a lot of better ones out there.
Is this water proof? What about storm surge?
Thanks for the video.. thinking of purchasing a Generac and your video was helpful.
You seriously could not run the generator cable in rigid pipe?
And then zip tie the second line. lol
The cable is armored cable that has classified explosion proof fittings at the end.
Exactly
We will have one of these when our new home is finished being built. June 1st 2018 closing date
This will be a must as wife has MS and having lights out in bad weather will not be a option
I wonder how much parts and labor are on this to install
11:44 someone give for this pure worker 10mm wrench to tighten poles bolts....
Ground Rod??
I wouldn't let these clowns install innersoles in my boots.
Lmao - true
Do you have any idea where to purchase the plastic cover for the LED indicator light. The cover looks like a bubble which protects the LED. Any help will be appreciated! Thank you.
Watch how not to install a generator
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I agree, This is a "How Not To Install a generator". Whats scary is that these guys think this is a good job! Imagine what it looks like when the camera is not there!
LOL
@@bulldog922 whats not right about it?
@@joejeans7913 ....the generator cable needs to be in conduit. But that just my opinion. The authority having jurisdiction (electrical inspector) will determine that.
Does the load side of that meterbase have double lugs?
WTF! The guy uses a level (a precision tool) as a rake.
True but its a POS plastic one anyway
Come on dude. It was the plastic portion used just to even it up
Hahaha good thing he is not the guy with the fluke
No plastic level is professional. They probably bought it at Walmarts or Harbor Freight. But using it as a trowel shows they didn't know how to use it. And I didn't see them even bolt the generator to the pad. Makes me question what the homeowner was doing while this installation was going on. Having worked with generators, I watched everything they did while they installed mine.
I think at 7.39 they are bolting the generator to the pad.
Does anyone have a source for the brackets used to mount the gas pipe to the wall at 9:11? I can't find them anywhere. Thanks.
check Graingers.
looks like instalation would easily equal the amount spend on the generator itself. i just got a quote of $650 for just a simple 30A transfer outlet for the electrical panel and a plug in on the outside of the wall.
I am looking for exactly the same now. Just got few quotes from yelp, range is between $500 and $800 but I had stated in my question that I will buy the switch myself, which is another $350. This is for Boston Area.
There's just one company that said their range is $650-$950 but they work with their own materials. But if it is $950 it comes close to what I'd pay whoever else I choose (if they don't charge me the top end and I buy the switch). I think a decent 8000w generator (which I also have to buy) is about $999 so wiring up a house for one is like buying one. Service is expensive, I guess that's the price I deserve for not learning electrical stuff myself.
You both would probably spend that same money on fixing your car and not think twice, these installs last a lifetime a car repair does not, a license is not required to repair a car. Any Joe schmo can do that.
Planning to get one of these on my next/last house. But I'll prepare the pad before installation myself. The rest they can do.
because that's all you're probably qualified to do; dumazz
@@chas7surf You have to have a licensed electrician apply for the permit and perform the installation, dumbass.
great job and video, IMO I say lose the music so we can hear what you're saying. again nice video and visual instruction
I'm buying a 22kw Genaric natural gas generator. I should have it installed in a few weeks. Now I can be a total jerk to my neighbors. They are already are going to be pissed off that my whole house including my hot tub will be running. But, I like my neighbors and my neighbors like me. This generator is 66db. Any way to quiet this thing down?
The concrete pad on that gravel base is not going to last long. That's something that I would have done differently.
Is that 1 1/4” gas line? If so where did you get the hangers to mount the gas line to the brick? I cannot find them.
Hi Matthew,
Yes it’s 1 1/4” and you get it from Nobles it’s a supplier in Toronto
All of those who are complaining about their installation of the cable on the wall. Answer one question. What does the local code in Toronto require? Before you make comments that are totally insignificant think first. This was a very neat professional installation.
Steven Phillips : Local codes do not require your electrical to be ran in the middle of the wall.... also, the gen pad literally can’t be installed on stone. That is direct from Diversitech the actual manufacturer. The gas flex pipe can’t be installed directly out of the generator, it needs to be installed horizontally with the unit. That’s in the install manual. I have been installing these units for about 20 years and will say it’s an ok job but needs to be tightened up. Yes most people commenting on here have either not installed them or have installed a few. At The company I work for we have installed 2-3 a day for the last 6 years. This unit is not in compliance with generacs warranty. Period. The stone base will fail and the stone is or will be gone. That’s a fact. Sorry just needed to say something.
Lots of Electricians ignore this however for this to be a perfect job...According to the CEC the cable needs mechanical protection under 5 feet. Teck armour is not considered any better than NMD for protection in the CEC. The mechanical protection could be provided by location, conduit, 1-1/2" of wood, or buried more that 2 ft down in sand 2" of sand passed through a screen no greater than .75"
But hey I'm splitting hairs here - Other than that looks great! well done, nice job.
AGREED! Well said. Thank you.
"This unit is not in compliance with generacs warranty. Period." NOW that is a need to know, IF I had of read that, in the manual after the install, they would have to redo it!
Remember code is a minimum ..... a True Electrician would go above and beyond those requirements , horrible foundation work, should have been a concrete pad. First off second zip ties werent UV rated, third , should have been in either rigid or pvc conduit. professional installation... not backyard electricians getting paid 15 dollars an hour.
Can all the connections go under ground?
I would be horrified to see this installation on my home. Two bags of gravel will not stabilize a running generator, and the lack of coordination with so many crew is disturbing....
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Does the gas line have to be connected to the meter? My power and gas meters are on opposite sides of my home. Thank you in advance.
I don'y have gas here in Florida (I do but the cost is out of reach because the have to pull from a main line on the street and then install a meter. I would consider LPG or natural gas. Yes it will need the addition of a tank somewhere, but I would rather have a tank that I can meter than take a chance of a broken gas line around the house or on the block somewhere.
Generators at full cry consume a lot of gas, how much is on the web site. Gas meters have limits on how much gas they can pass and piping has limits on
how much gas can go through a given diameter and length, so you will always need a direct connex from the meter. Sometimes you have to replace the
gas meter if it cannot supply the furnace/stove and generator demand.
Why would some run carflex for that long of a run? At least use EMT or PVC and go down and follow the existing conduit. Flex from that to the generator. Secondly, it looks like the exhaust is venting right above the basement window, being as carbon monoxide is heavier than air, if hope no ones living in the basement.
That is classified armor cable.
REMEMBER YOU ARE LEAVING A NOW CLASS 1 DIV 2 AREA.
Can you add a rubber mat between the base and generator to reduce sonic vibration?
This installation screams unprofessional and tacky. Highlights included randomly pouring gravel onto the ground. No trenching or tampering ground at all. Funniest part was using a level as a trowl. Then to top it off, running the tackiest set of electrical wiring along the side of house.
I would have held that plumbing and conduit down by the lower edge of the facia and would have made all conduit openings on bottom of transfer switch. Also, the grass and topsoil should have been removed down 6-8 inches and filled with gravel and compacted. At least they put heaters on filter and crankcase. I have never installed a gaseous fuel generator without a fuel Y strainer. At least a drip leg should have been installed. Not a great install but so much better than many I have seen. I didn't see any wires pulled for the heaters. Are they running off the commmunication wires?
First time it rains the water will wash away the gravel and the generator will slide off ...🤦♂️
Thanks but I will pour my own cement slab Was that plastic?
Funny how they ran the black cabling hahahha
Wouldn't you prefer a nice concrete slab as a base how much can that really cost? $50?
You like how he put bags of gravel and used a level to level it? LOL. Code requires galvanized gas pipe for out door applications also. Not steel pipe so it can start to rust right away. There sediment drain is wrong also. You dont come across into a "T" fitting. You come up over and down into the "T" fitting. Good luck with that.
John K sorry, but you are incorrect.
In most areas galvanized pipe is illegal for gas lines. However, the black pipe needs to be painted or wrapped to prevent rust.
So it looks like you do not need access to the service panel inside the house. All of the work is done outside, correct?
That's correct when the voltage stops from service the generator starts
Wow......at least they didn’t get fingerprints on anything so as not to incriminate themselves later 😳