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I still fondly remember Netscape Navigator slowly loading progressive jpegs, first squares appear which over time slowly turn to faces. Ahhhh nostalgia
This reminds me of some of the Y2k work that I did in California. When the year actually clicked over to Year 2000, I was a software contractor at a major brand name maker of blood glucose meters. If anything at all was changed in their manufacturing, storage and shipping processes then the whole process had to be retested and recertified by the FDA. That was very expensive to do. Almost everything they produced eventually fed through the shipping department where there was a lonely un-networked MS-DOS floppy-based computer monitoring a single vital function. While it would have taken a relatively small sum of money to swap it out for a new PC, the cost of retesting and recertification would have cost 10s of thousands of dollars. As it was we tested it for Y2k compliance and then left it chugging away. It might still be there!
Working in IT Healthcare in the UK, there are a number of legacy systems that only work or load properly in IE. Recently we switched to force load them in Edge IE mode. All working fine for now!
Its not that the old systems won't work on new browsers. The problem is the old IT people that refuse to retire and are stuck in their old ways, which makes their software also stuck in their old ways.
At my mother's work, there is a MS-DOS computer thats required to operate some very specific device that would be extremely expensive to replace But since the computer is in a closed system, there is really no reason to ever replace it unless it breaks
Even if it does break, it's likely running with custom hardware add-in cards that probably wouldn't run on anything other than MS-DOS, so you'd have to replace it with another computer of the same era
I don't know but I wouldn't assume that MS-DOS wouldn't work on modern computer. Just for fun, I did quick search and found articles on how to run DOS programs on Windows 10. As always, the devil is in the details.
@@dimbulb23 The problem isn't really with running the software, that's easily done. The real issue is having it interact with the hardware without running into problems, and that's assuming it would even do anything at all. Said hardware is also very likely to be custom made.
Agreed. I'd tried different browsers every now and then for years but always went back to IE in the end. I used IE6 right up until the first beta versions of Chrome came out in 2008. Original Chrome was so good, I actually switched. Unfortunately Google ruined Chrome so I switched to Firefox years ago because I just couldn't take having to deal with digital-cancer anymore. Firefox isn't good either, but there's no other alternative (no, Brave isn't an option).
It had a good run. But my company still uses IE for business reasons. We use IE for internal purposes, and it's pretty critical. But Microsoft is always resetting a lot of default settings to edge. But as of today now we will have to deal with that. Our app works beautifully, and having to rebuild it is very costly especially on a very important system.
There are some surveillance systems that only use IE. The problem is that they also require a plugin for IE that won't work in Edge, even if you're in IE Mode.
@@walkman1269: It might, but I doubt it. Chrome doesn't use the old plugins either and probably won't load it, even under the IE tab. Besides that, I don't use the "Google, track everything I do browser."
@@walkman1269 I tried to find IE tab to install in Edge today but it wasnt in the addon store I still have it since before, and it seems to work. But we couldn't find it for new users.
The application my company worked on for the last 20 years have been tailored to IE. The amount of gruesome effort we had to take for migrating to Chrome is unheard of with a team of 200 people. Hopefully for the best. Yea but we will be having a legit mourn and grief session for IE post Chrome Release
Oracle Fusion Middleware, an important enterprise application for bespoke records management, is loaded through a Java web applet which only works in Internet Explorer. I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the main use cases for Internet Explorer mode within businesses.
A small bookstore that I used to work at still uses Windows 98. The data entry software won’t work on anything newer. Believe me, we tried. The owner doesn’t want to pay up for new software, so…
When something fails to launch on my school's computers, it opens a Windows Server 2012 Vm and that uses Internet Explorer. Onetime in the vm, a teacher was doing their PowerPoint and clicked a RUclips video link. Internet Explorer opened and RUclips said how IE was no longer supported. I had to explain to the teacher how, you know, it's a browser from 2013 that nothing now supports!
I own a web design company and I've felt that IE should have been laid to rest way back in 2013!! A huge headache having to test websites on IE because it was always acting funky!
One thing I've seen in the Office 365 Admin messages about this, is that IE11 is still being supported on Windows Long-Term-Servicing (LTSC) and on Windows Server 2012, 2016, and 2019, which shipped without Edge. The message subjects have even included "(non-LTSC, non-Server)" every time they've sent reminders.
My company still uses Internet Explorer 11 for legacy document storage and retrieval applications that require proprietary ActiveX controls and plugins to view documents stored electronically as they're saved in legacy proprietary image formats. The company phone system also requires Internet Explorer with ActiveX controls for playing back call recordings. At home I have some CCTV cameras which require Internet Explorer 11 with ActiveX plugins for the management interface.
That is true. I used to work at Spectrum when it used to be called "Time Warner Cable" and they were using programs that were designed based on Linux OS to interact with the old IE6 so the system programs we were using looked so much like using Win95. It does make sense because a huge company would have to spend millions on software updates alone when it's cheaper to pay a couple of software developers to design Linux based software that can utilize old unexpired Windows software already paid for.
You're right. The last time I had used it was to download Google Chrome in my Windows 7 OS. After I upgraded it to Windows 10, I literally never used (Just sometimes opened it for fun to see it still being use).
Thank goodness! I maintain a website and have been holding off on a facelift because we do get a fair amount of IE traffic (abandoning those users is *not* an option for this organization). I hope to see those numbers start dropping in the next year so I can implement some significant changes.
In a way I am sad about this but times are changing. I did prefer it at one point but I seen the writing on the wall when Java came to an end. So I gave edge a go, not a fan with Google. I have become accustomed to Edge but still kinda miss IE, basically on it's looks and feel. But edge grew on me. So long IE, you had a good run!
Java is still alive and one of the top languages still used. Minecraft being a famous one. Though may be talking about Flash player which is dead and we lost lot of good games and animations that have not been updated to new web standards yet.
Old devices that either use an old cipher or use ActiveX require this functionality. If you still use these devices and need to access the GUI to check or change things, then you understand why it's still needed. The company I work has some clients running gear we installed 8 or more years ago. Ideally, we would replace these devices, but sometimes that doesn't happen. Eventually, it will become an issue and it will hurt more than if the client paid for replacements in a planned and convenient timeframe. Meanwhile, these same clients don't blink at changing their phone every one or two years. It's a bit of a disconnect for me, but we all have our priorities for spending money.
The next thing I want to see is better automation support in Office. Excel VBA natively only supports Internet Explorer, which is one of the simplest ways to web scrape websites programmatically in Excel. But since VBA has stopped further development years ago, there is no hope to support other browsers other than IE, unless company IT allows installing Selenium or other 3rd party tools. But at that point, it would be much more efficient to change to Python or other modern languages to do the web scraping.
RIP to Internet Explorer. May it never get nightmares of half of the screen filled with toolbars and instead get sweat dreams of at least loading a site
It's probably hospitals, or some other sort of government, or public service machines, that still require some form, of Internet Explorer. They are usually the ones to cheap out, and as long as Microsoft can still harvest info off of them, they keep the app "alive".
One of my colleagues told me that they had an archaic server at his previous workplace that could only be configured in IE6 on Windows XP sp2. They had a virtual machine for it. So I guess companies can keep using their ancient legacy things basically forever.
R.I.P. Internet Explorer. It started all the browsers, it started everything. But, it happened. Thank you for the memories, the fun, and the best of times. You will forever, be deeply missed. Internet Explorer 11 - 2013 - 2022
@@christiangonzales7429 IE is only discontinued on Windows 10 semi annual (the default edition). It will still be supported until the end of support of Windows 7 ESU, Windows 8.1, Windows 10 LTSB/LTSC, Server 2008 R2 ESU, 2016, 2019, and 2022.
The last time I used Internet Explorer was just a couple of days ago. I installed Windows 10 on some Hewlett Packard laptop. Although most of the drivers are available on their website, for hotkeys (to control brightness, etc.) another driver was required, which was not on the site. And it had to be downloaded via FTP. Modern browsers don't support FTP (what a shame!), but Internet Explorer does. Of course, I could use some third party FTP client, but I didn't want to install it just to download one file.
My mum marks exams for an exam board and every year I have to play around with Internet Explorer (or mode) in order to get her payroll details so she can file a tax return. It just won’t work in any other browser.
I just got a job which actually relies on IE to display a website it fetches data from. The app is quite old, but unfortunately our clients are a bit reluctant to upgrade their devices and have snappier response times, so we kinda have to stick to using the IE integration from within the app. I'm hoping that in a few years' time everyone will have been eventually convinced to get it through.
I work IT at a Doc's office, Our EMR (electronic Medical Records) website system still requires IE, i asked the tech support of the EMR about end of IE support and what browser they recommend. Back when we started using EMR 8 yrs ago if your were on Chrome or Firefox, it wasnt yet compatible with their system.
I'm one of those who lived through the rise of the internet from it's beginnings. The one thing I couldn't stand about IE was that it basically killed off Netscape Navigator. A lot of you don't even know about that browser! Netscape Navigator/Communicator was basically the first internet browser to go mainstream and was extremely nice! When they launched Communicator it had pop out widgets that further assisted in navigation and was the coolest thing going back then... Bill Gate got nervous that Netscape by way of the internet could put an end to Windows as we then knew it. So they made their own browser and embedded it into the Operating System. Long story short, It started a war with the creators of Netscape. Law suits Market share started falling drastically for Netscape. It eventually had to be given away in order to compete with IE yet still couldn't hang. It eventually gave up and was bought out. Microsoft ate Netscape. The one shining jewel was that before they left there was a small upstart who's browser engine was based on Netscape.... That company is Firefox! If you use Firefox you are (In a small way) supporting Netscape in my book. It's the main reason I still use Firefox to this day.
I have used Navigator but I don't care who won the browser wars. I just always wanted to use the browser with the best UI and for me that's always been IE. Firefox is awful in my opinion. I recently uninstalled it in favour of Edge because the Firefox UI is just so bad.
I remember coming back from school and hitting my Dad's old computer to watch funny videos on Internet Explorer. Then I remember getting sick of IE and upgrading to Firefox. Then I remember getting my own laptop and switching between Chrome and Edge indecisively, before learning of Opera, Vivaldi, Brave and the rest. Long time, but Internet Explorer was always there.
RIP internet Explorer 11. You've served some people worldwide during your operation. You'll be missed by some people that loved you. I also started to remember that I did used Internet Explorer 7. It's been 7 years ago on a Windows 7 laptop that belonged to my sister. I don't know what happened to the laptop but I'll see if I can find it.
I hate having to give up IE over a year ago. I love the simple layout and did not come with all the bells and whistles that the new browsers force on you. I've been trying to find a better one, but I really don't like the choices they have out there.
I work at the specialities division of a large European energy company, and our basic pricing tool has to run in IE compatible mode. This tool was developed in 2013-2014 btw, so it's kind of insane that they didn't have the foresight to design it in a more future proof manner.
There are several obsolete hvac controls systems that require the ie compatibility mode. The building owners don't want to replace an entire buildings worth of controls that still work, because internet explorer is dead.
It's not just in-house apps used by companies. The Chess Variant Pages hosts many Java apps for playing Chess variants at a very rudimentary level. These were coded by hobbyists who have grown older and are not interested in making new versions that don't require Java. No one requires these apps for their daily work, and there is generally better software for playing Chess variants, but no one will be updating them, and keeping them is not a big deal as long as people can still play them.
There are still quite a few websites out there which still use ActiveX controls mainly sites for internal use but still using the deprecated ActiveX controls. In the UK, the "catalogue-products" chain "Argos" which is owned by the supermarket chain "Sainsbury's" still in some capacity uses Windows XP and their own intranet sites albeit mainly so that say a customer can navigate through an electronic-form of their catalogue through the company intranet and I know this because in one of their stores in London, GB which was only closed at least 4 months ago now still used an old PC connected to an LCD Monitor (4:3 aspect ratio) running Windows XP (or POS Ready 2009 but idk since I never looked at the winver program on the machine) which they used as an electronic catalogue because the store had not been refurbished in over a decade and was still using paper-catalogues instead of IBM Brand touch-screen computers (probably but idk) running Windows 7 which their newer stores had been upgraded to or using Samsung tablets locked to a single app which their newly refurbished stores had been upgraded to so there are definitely still businesses using ancient technology, well at least here in the UK and at least in the retail sector. Another example I have is the variety store chain "Wilkinsons" aka "Wilko" still using Windows XP because it's what the program they use for handling internal stocks run on and I saw this being used several months ago at their store in Kingston-Upon-Thames, Surrey/London...
The thing is when you have bespoke software and programs that are designed around internet explorer and Windows XP navigating to a newer system is very time consuming and costly so many businesses will do everything to avoid having to upgrade.
Actually we use IE because most of IP cameras and NVRs require IE to change its settings and even if it work on any modern browser it requires IE to live view it because they require plugins that only work in IE
Here is a story about something that requires internet explorer. The company I work for uses sharepoint to store projects. See below. However, if you want to edit them using desktop office apps, microsoft expects you to use onedrive to sync the directories you want to work on. However, when you have thousands of files across hundreds of directories that you constantly work on across 4 locations and a massive team, sync errors happen all the time. Not to mention it costs a lot of time to fix all these errors and teach users how to properly use onedrive. We used to use google drive, which had a streaming option for business use which was perfect, but now that we migrated to sharepoint, onedrive doesn't support it. So the only alternative is to map a sharepoint directory as a network drive using the net use command. However, in order to get all the permissions to work seamlessly, you have to sign into sharepoint with ie to get an authentication token. If you try to use any other browser, it will not work (other than edge in ie mode). This has something to do with network drives using the webDav protocol. Hope that sparked an interest.
We do something similar, but rather than using a script we use Cloud Drive Mapper from IAM Cloud. They're still using WebDAV for now but as it's technically unsupported by MS, they're writing their own middleware to release a v3 that doesn't rely on WebDAV. They've been teasing it for years though, so it's taking its time to release.
@@itskdog That's funny that you mention that, we are currently on the 4th time extended trial of CDM. We are planning on deploying it soon but I'm still trying to find a way around it :P. So far I found out that web browsers store 2 critical cookies that allow a user to sign into sharepoint. I want to see if I can grab those cookies and and move them to wherever internet explorer stores its cookies to see if that will allow me to retain access. If so, I might try to build a little app/service that can handle the sign in process and keep a user logged in.
Had to change this settings at work just for 1 app. It is not updated anymore because it will die (question is when). I work in a company that make cheques and this app is used for the paper version. More and more we are using electronic version. But there is still a regio that did not switch to electronic so we still have to use it to give support.
ThioJoe Forgot to add that its mostly government related services that still actually needs it. Declaration, Healthcare, Insurance. The list goes bloody on and on. I had to go through hell to get my company to approve a deployment of IE mode through the Enterprise Site List and pretty much reroute all IE access to Edge... Anyways, Anyone out there who uses IE-Mode should run it completely isolated in a VM or on a computer with absolutely no personal data whatsoever. Old websites get compromised so easily there's no telling what malicious actor can do once you click on a compromised site link...
I think you can use Windows Defender Application Guard (if using Windows 10). That should still support IE mode from what I remember. It's quick to launch and super easy to manage. You can also use the Windows Sandbox if you wish. Those two are the best if you don't want to download any external program, plus they work flawlessly. But you probably know all of this.
I work for a company that still uses a web portal that only functions in IE and the things we do in it are required for us to remain employed. Our laptops, however, must remain OS current. When we get Win11, IE will no longer be on the OS and they disable IE Mode in Edge via domain policy. It will be interesting to see what they do then. Probably nothing and force us to use our home PCs to access the site knowing them. That’ll be fun being my personal PC is Linux. I’d hate to have to setup a VM just to keep a job with stubborn leadership. May be evaluating my employment status with them if it comes to that.
The biggest phone company in Mexico -TELMEX- still uses IE for their WebApp services management. They also use a NETTERM-like interface for assigning lines
Regarding the last chapter of the video, it is indeed the case at my workplace. We have an internal web page that can't be accessed otherwise. We very rarely use it, because we have other means to access its contents, but in very rare cases this compatibility thing comes in really handy.
i work in Fintech and we have been slowly replacing IE with chrome/edge, but so many bank related web services are based on IE, tomorrow will be so fun
4:20 in my last job we had to work with an ancient web app that required specifically I.E. 7, and it was a good day when they finally allowed us to use I.E. 8. That was back in 2018
This is definitely geared towards corporate users. The company I work for has the old call center scheduling and adherence system specifically compatible with IE as it was current at the time it was built and and aren't going to move it until absolutely necessary. Basically boils down to if it ain't broke don't fix it. There was a huge push to make sure everyone had their schedule accessable in edge prior to the EOL date for IE. As a security measure they had to remove IE from all devices to stay HIPAA compliant.
I have worked for companies that did have very old machines that did either use old versions of Windows or Internet Explore to cut items out of metal. We would create a design and then have to save it as an older file type, like MS-Dos for the machine to read it. They did look into moving to newer software, by changing out the mother board verses buying new equipment. They even tried to get IT to create a script to translate the files but just felt it easier to keep using the machine unitl it broke or the software wouldn't save the file to that type anymore.
M&T bank still requires IE 11 with IE 8 compatibility mode to access their commercial banking lock box accounts. Edge with IE compatibility turned on doesn’t even work, it’s so frustrating.
IE has been around a lot longer than that. I have a Windows-98SE box that had IE as part of Windows. Previous versions of windows still had it optional. Desktop Browser was incorporated into IE to make it necessary to have but I extricated it anyway with a music editor.
My school system still uses msdos for like half of the non classroom computers, so it's not that big of a surprise that people still use IE that commonly.
As someone working for one of the biggest automotive companies, i can confirm ie is required...and let me tell you, the "website" is clunky, bad and hinders productivity.
Microsoft has dabbled in the dark arts, and the witches and warlocks of Microsoft have succeeded in their goal of removing the curse on our Windows computers.
Some Websites still require Internet Explorer, that's why Microsoft added that compatibility mode to Edge. A car dealer in my town is using a web management system and it's not properly working without that compatibility. Somehow that's an old system they use and can't get rid of it
I work at a hospital and we use internet explorer, I tried opening my work apps in Chrome and Edge and they do not work, it sucks because Internet explore is super slow and makes my job harder then what it should be. I really hope the hospital switches to a better application to work more efficiently
I work with a variety of network CCTV cameras, and IE is still very much essential, as the internal browser configuration firmware will often not work with Edge, even if it is in IE compatibility mode.
I had a contract with a bank, and yes they still use DOS. As you mentioned correctly many of their databases and internal tools work perfectly in Explorer, if you try to use Edge or Chrome they don't load correctly or freeze and crash.
I know a bank operating in around 7 states which uses a CBS so old that it apparently doesn't even run with Edge's IE compatibility mode. And they won't do anything about it.
Sidebar: Sometimes when I do a search in a website, previous searches from other websites will be suggested for me to choose. Is there a way to clear those? I use Widows 10 with a Chrome browser.
Some government agencies may use old apps that require Internet Explorer and unable to update it. Obviously, businesses and government can't have huge disruptions
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I report scam accounts as I see them, on any RUclips video, I hope everyone does it so it stops.
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@ThioJoe 昨天發現，我第一時間就知道它是詐騙，立刻向 RUclips 檢舉了。詐騙沒有得逞❗
dont you have a program to remove it
R.I.P internet explorer. Thank you for being every ones quick 2 minute browser to download chrome.
Lol
I always used edge to do so, although I just tried internet explorer and was surprised at how well it performed.
Or firefox 🤔
@@ThioJoe even firefox is not so much popular
You're welcome
Internet Explorer: **dies**
Outdated school computers: **nervous sweating**
Jokes on you I use google
@@ShadeATV
;-;
Which school does that? I was in elementary school from 2009 to 2015, and in 2010 Windows 7 was installed, replacing Windows XP on our computers.
If you have 8.1 or older u can use it + it downloads edge itself
My school uses Google chrome
I still fondly remember Netscape Navigator slowly loading progressive jpegs, first squares appear which over time slowly turn to faces. Ahhhh nostalgia
I first used that in 1998 when I first used the internet.
Limit your internet download speed with software like NetBalancer and enjoy those pixels loading
I vaguely remember using something called Mosaic. Netscape Navigator was a huge improvement.
I definitely don't miss the days of Compuserve/AOL or BBSes. The first time I ever pulled an all-nigher was waiting for "big" (read
I still get that on Firefox.
This reminds me of some of the Y2k work that I did in California.
When the year actually clicked over to Year 2000, I was a software contractor at a major brand name maker of blood glucose meters. If anything at all was changed in their manufacturing, storage and shipping processes then the whole process had to be retested and recertified by the FDA. That was very expensive to do.
Almost everything they produced eventually fed through the shipping department where there was a lonely un-networked MS-DOS floppy-based computer monitoring a single vital function. While it would have taken a relatively small sum of money to swap it out for a new PC, the cost of retesting and recertification would have cost 10s of thousands of dollars. As it was we tested it for Y2k compliance and then left it chugging away.
It might still be there!
One day, future generations going to be "What the hell is Internet Explorer"
We going to shed a single tear
yeah :(
Working in IT Healthcare in the UK, there are a number of legacy systems that only work or load properly in IE. Recently we switched to force load them in Edge IE mode. All working fine for now!
Enterprise Site List to the rescue~ Lets hope we can convince all the oldies that security is actually a problem...
Its not that the old systems won't work on new browsers. The problem is the old IT people that refuse to retire and are stuck in their old ways, which makes their software also stuck in their old ways.
Same, working for an ISP at the moment, and the system we currently use is also very old, only displaying correctly on IE.
same here in the US
You were the best Chrome downloader
Truth 😔
At my mother's work, there is a MS-DOS computer thats required to operate some very specific device that would be extremely expensive to replace
But since the computer is in a closed system, there is really no reason to ever replace it unless it breaks
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
Even if it does break, it's likely running with custom hardware add-in cards that probably wouldn't run on anything other than MS-DOS, so you'd have to replace it with another computer of the same era
I don't know but I wouldn't assume that MS-DOS wouldn't work on modern computer.
Just for fun, I did quick search and found articles on how to run DOS programs on Windows 10.
As always, the devil is in the details.
@@dimbulb23 The problem isn't really with running the software, that's easily done. The real issue is having it interact with the hardware without running into problems, and that's assuming it would even do anything at all. Said hardware is also very likely to be custom made.
where is it
IE 6 was my favourite browser. i learnt how to prepare HTML pages with background sounds on that. way before other browsers supported such features.
IE at a time was far ahead of its time, people forget that.
@@Lofote and then microsoft grew complacent and became slow at releasing updates, keeping web standards back for years.
@@thelakeman2538 Thats unfortunately true. Plus that dreadful ActiveX feature haunted them and users for a decade with security issues.
Agreed. I'd tried different browsers every now and then for years but always went back to IE in the end. I used IE6 right up until the first beta versions of Chrome came out in 2008. Original Chrome was so good, I actually switched. Unfortunately Google ruined Chrome so I switched to Firefox years ago because I just couldn't take having to deal with digital-cancer anymore. Firefox isn't good either, but there's no other alternative (no, Brave isn't an option).
@@thelakeman2538 Which is particularly dumb because this was after Bill Gates sent that internal Microsoft memo about needing to focus on "the web". 🤦
R.I.P. the ultimate Firefox/Chrome downloader o7
At least we have a new one: Edge
@@minix07 yes
It had a good run. But my company still uses IE for business reasons. We use IE for internal purposes, and it's pretty critical. But Microsoft is always resetting a lot of default settings to edge. But as of today now we will have to deal with that.
Our app works beautifully, and having to rebuild it is very costly especially on a very important system.
Replacing WebView of Internet Explorer would be 20 hours of work for a programmer if you have the source code.
You should be able to push a GPO for Edge to set specific we sites to always open in IE Mode.
3:40 Compatibility Mode is a feature in Internet Explorer, so it's probably enabling IE's own compatibility mode.
@TEO ARBS what
@@GamerBoy705_yt it's a bot posting on all the comments here.
There are some surveillance systems that only use IE. The problem is that they also require a plugin for IE that won't work in Edge, even if you're in IE Mode.
yea HikVision
Try IE tab for chrome. You might have to get the plugin loaded via IE but it might work.
@@walkman1269: It might, but I doubt it. Chrome doesn't use the old plugins either and probably won't load it, even under the IE tab. Besides that, I don't use the "Google, track everything I do browser."
Firefox has IE tab too but yeah without the plugins its just not going to work
@@walkman1269 I tried to find IE tab to install in Edge today but it wasnt in the addon store
I still have it since before, and it seems to work. But we couldn't find it for new users.
The application my company worked on for the last 20 years have been tailored to IE. The amount of gruesome effort we had to take for migrating to Chrome is unheard of with a team of 200 people. Hopefully for the best. Yea but we will be having a legit mourn and grief session for IE post Chrome Release
Damn 🎉 congrats for the Chrome release
@@mirandamanga9083 Thanks. Its still not done yet lol
Oracle Fusion Middleware, an important enterprise application for bespoke records management, is loaded through a Java web applet which only works in Internet Explorer. I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the main use cases for Internet Explorer mode within businesses.
Yes I work for a leading US medical device manufacturer and this is the exact reason why we still use IE
Yep we need Java 7. Every browser banned it
One of the company I was contracted for had some old SharePoint forms that only load on Explorer!
A small bookstore that I used to work at still uses Windows 98. The data entry software won’t work on anything newer. Believe me, we tried. The owner doesn’t want to pay up for new software, so…
Why would he pay if the computer works fine offline? If it’s online then thats on him if he loses everything due to cyberattack.
Have you tried an emulated version of 98? Its not perfect but it's worth giving it a shot before the system goes kaput.
@@Fireberries Imagine the System goes kaputt. Bissl Deutsch hier
When something fails to launch on my school's computers, it opens a Windows Server 2012 Vm and that uses Internet Explorer.
Onetime in the vm, a teacher was doing their PowerPoint and clicked a RUclips video link.
Internet Explorer opened and RUclips said how IE was no longer supported.
I had to explain to the teacher how, you know, it's a browser from 2013 that nothing now supports!
Internet explorer: Giving web developers headaches due to it's poor standard compliance
thank god it's dead. no more stupid trident compatibility bullshit
I own a web design company and I've felt that IE should have been laid to rest way back in 2013!! A huge headache having to test websites on IE because it was always acting funky!
One thing I've seen in the Office 365 Admin messages about this, is that IE11 is still being supported on Windows Long-Term-Servicing (LTSC) and on Windows Server 2012, 2016, and 2019, which shipped without Edge. The message subjects have even included "(non-LTSC, non-Server)" every time they've sent reminders.
My company still uses Internet Explorer 11 for legacy document storage and retrieval applications that require proprietary ActiveX controls and plugins to view documents stored electronically as they're saved in legacy proprietary image formats. The company phone system also requires Internet Explorer with ActiveX controls for playing back call recordings.
At home I have some CCTV cameras which require Internet Explorer 11 with ActiveX plugins for the management interface.
That is true. I used to work at Spectrum when it used to be called "Time Warner Cable" and they were using programs that were designed based on Linux OS to interact with the old IE6 so the system programs we were using looked so much like using Win95. It does make sense because a huge company would have to spend millions on software updates alone when it's cheaper to pay a couple of software developers to design Linux based software that can utilize old unexpired Windows software already paid for.
RIP Internet Explorer - The most used internet browser
to download other browsers.
lol
LOL That's the only use I had for it. I bounce back and forth from firefox, brave, and chrome.
lol
@@TaliaIGhul Firefox isnt it anymore honestly, Brave got way better than at launch and constantly getting better and faster
You're right. The last time I had used it was to download Google Chrome in my Windows 7 OS. After I upgraded it to Windows 10, I literally never used (Just sometimes opened it for fun to see it still being use).
Thank goodness! I maintain a website and have been holding off on a facelift because we do get a fair amount of IE traffic (abandoning those users is *not* an option for this organization). I hope to see those numbers start dropping in the next year so I can implement some significant changes.
Hey David. I have IE 6 and it looks all funny with JavaScript errors. Can you fix it by the end of the day?
I'm old enough to remember Internet Explorer 4 with the Active Desktop upgrade for Windows 95 and NT 4.0.
In a way I am sad about this but times are changing. I did prefer it at one point but I seen the writing on the wall when Java came to an end. So I gave edge a go, not a fan with Google.
I have become accustomed to Edge but still kinda miss IE, basically on it's looks and feel. But edge grew on me. So long IE, you had a good run!
@TEO ARBS stop self promoting bro just work hard on your videos than you can get subs
try Opera GX
But it's Chromium based. Chromium is made by Google. Use Firefox.
Java is still alive and one of the top languages still used. Minecraft being a famous one. Though may be talking about Flash player which is dead and we lost lot of good games and animations that have not been updated to new web standards yet.
Old devices that either use an old cipher or use ActiveX require this functionality. If you still use these devices and need to access the GUI to check or change things, then you understand why it's still needed. The company I work has some clients running gear we installed 8 or more years ago. Ideally, we would replace these devices, but sometimes that doesn't happen. Eventually, it will become an issue and it will hurt more than if the client paid for replacements in a planned and convenient timeframe. Meanwhile, these same clients don't blink at changing their phone every one or two years. It's a bit of a disconnect for me, but we all have our priorities for spending money.
The next thing I want to see is better automation support in Office.
Excel VBA natively only supports Internet Explorer, which is one of the simplest ways to web scrape websites programmatically in Excel.
But since VBA has stopped further development years ago, there is no hope to support other browsers other than IE, unless company IT allows installing Selenium or other 3rd party tools. But at that point, it would be much more efficient to change to Python or other modern languages to do the web scraping.
RIP to Internet Explorer. May it never get nightmares of half of the screen filled with toolbars and instead get sweat dreams of at least loading a site
May internet explorer die in peace, the best chrome downloader I’ve ever used
yeah
*Firefox
@@ChicagoMel23 yeah that too
It's probably hospitals, or some other sort of government, or public service machines, that still require some form, of Internet Explorer. They are usually the ones to cheap out, and as long as Microsoft can still harvest info off of them, they keep the app "alive".
“BREAKING!!! Microsoft officially announces that it will end support for the Internet Explorer web browser on June 15, 2022.” -Internet Explorer, 2024
lmao
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One of my colleagues told me that they had an archaic server at his previous workplace that could only be configured in IE6 on Windows XP sp2. They had a virtual machine for it. So I guess companies can keep using their ancient legacy things basically forever.
R.I.P. Internet Explorer. It started all the browsers, it started everything. But, it happened. Thank you for the memories, the fun, and the best of times. You will forever, be deeply missed. Internet Explorer 11 - 2013 - 2022
When i was young i watched your video of cleaning motherboard with water.. and i was just about to do it but comments saved me 🙂
In terms of medical equipment interfaces, look up 'Therac-25' for a case where things went horribly wrong (patients were killed by it)...
It will be technically supported until 2029, when windows 10 ltsc 2019 gets discontinued
Windows 10 will still be supported, but IE itself won't be. Newer releases of Windows 10 will probably be stripped of IE.
@@christiangonzales7429 IE is only discontinued on Windows 10 semi annual (the default edition). It will still be supported until the end of support of Windows 7 ESU, Windows 8.1, Windows 10 LTSB/LTSC, Server 2008 R2 ESU, 2016, 2019, and 2022.
Explorer 12 years later: we are sorry to announce, explorer has died
The last time I used Internet Explorer was just a couple of days ago. I installed Windows 10 on some Hewlett Packard laptop. Although most of the drivers are available on their website, for hotkeys (to control brightness, etc.) another driver was required, which was not on the site. And it had to be downloaded via FTP. Modern browsers don't support FTP (what a shame!), but Internet Explorer does. Of course, I could use some third party FTP client, but I didn't want to install it just to download one file.
File Explorer still supports FTP, so now IE's gone, there's still a built-in client for it.
My mum marks exams for an exam board and every year I have to play around with Internet Explorer (or mode) in order to get her payroll details so she can file a tax return. It just won’t work in any other browser.
Which Exam Board (I'm doing my GCSEs)
I just got a job which actually relies on IE to display a website it fetches data from. The app is quite old, but unfortunately our clients are a bit reluctant to upgrade their devices and have snappier response times, so we kinda have to stick to using the IE integration from within the app. I'm hoping that in a few years' time everyone will have been eventually convinced to get it through.
Good to know that the 20 ton magnet that I have to sit inside of is powered by the worst web browser
I work IT at a Doc's office, Our EMR (electronic Medical Records) website system still requires IE, i asked the tech support of the EMR about end of IE support and what browser they recommend. Back when we started using EMR 8 yrs ago if your were on Chrome or Firefox, it wasnt yet compatible with their system.
I'm one of those who lived through the rise of the internet from it's beginnings. The one thing I couldn't stand about IE was that it basically killed off Netscape Navigator. A lot of you don't even know about that browser! Netscape Navigator/Communicator was basically the first internet browser to go mainstream and was extremely nice! When they launched Communicator it had pop out widgets that further assisted in navigation and was the coolest thing going back then... Bill Gate got nervous that Netscape by way of the internet could put an end to Windows as we then knew it. So they made their own browser and embedded it into the Operating System. Long story short, It started a war with the creators of Netscape. Law suits Market share started falling drastically for Netscape. It eventually had to be given away in order to compete with IE yet still couldn't hang. It eventually gave up and was bought out. Microsoft ate Netscape. The one shining jewel was that before they left there was a small upstart who's browser engine was based on Netscape.... That company is Firefox! If you use Firefox you are (In a small way) supporting Netscape in my book. It's the main reason I still use Firefox to this day.
Firefox is way better than Edge if you ask me. I would say it is on par with Chrome.
using Firefox since 2005 😎
I have used Navigator but I don't care who won the browser wars. I just always wanted to use the browser with the best UI and for me that's always been IE. Firefox is awful in my opinion. I recently uninstalled it in favour of Edge because the Firefox UI is just so bad.
@@howardbaxter2514 Not in my opinion. I know a lot of people rave over Firefox but not me. I prefer Edge.
I remember coming back from school and hitting my Dad's old computer to watch funny videos on Internet Explorer. Then I remember getting sick of IE and upgrading to Firefox. Then I remember getting my own laptop and switching between Chrome and Edge indecisively, before learning of Opera, Vivaldi, Brave and the rest. Long time, but Internet Explorer was always there.
Somewhere Netscape is looking down...and laughing. Lol 🤣
RIP internet Explorer 11. You've served some people worldwide during your operation. You'll be missed by some people that loved you.
I also started to remember that I did used Internet Explorer 7. It's been 7 years ago on a Windows 7 laptop that belonged to my sister. I don't know what happened to the laptop but I'll see if I can find it.
IE7 7 years ago on Windows 7. *S* *E* *V* *E* *N* *.*
I hate having to give up IE over a year ago. I love the simple layout and did not come with all the bells and whistles that the new browsers force on you. I've been trying to find a better one, but I really don't like the choices they have out there.
Finally … but Microsoft still refusing to do the burial ceremony.
IE will be missed.
Best shortcut to access Chrome and others.
yeah!
I work at the specialities division of a large European energy company, and our basic pricing tool has to run in IE compatible mode. This tool was developed in 2013-2014 btw, so it's kind of insane that they didn't have the foresight to design it in a more future proof manner.
i just remembered that some companies and most schools still using windows 7 (my school computer obviously using windows 10)
There are several obsolete hvac controls systems that require the ie compatibility mode. The building owners don't want to replace an entire buildings worth of controls that still work, because internet explorer is dead.
It's not just in-house apps used by companies. The Chess Variant Pages hosts many Java apps for playing Chess variants at a very rudimentary level. These were coded by hobbyists who have grown older and are not interested in making new versions that don't require Java. No one requires these apps for their daily work, and there is generally better software for playing Chess variants, but no one will be updating them, and keeping them is not a big deal as long as people can still play them.
I love your meme videos. They made me laugh out loud. 😂🤣
Rest in peace internet explorer
There are still quite a few websites out there which still use ActiveX controls mainly sites for internal use but still using the deprecated ActiveX controls.
In the UK, the "catalogue-products" chain "Argos" which is owned by the supermarket chain "Sainsbury's" still in some capacity uses Windows XP and their own intranet sites albeit mainly so that say a customer can navigate through an electronic-form of their catalogue through the company intranet and I know this because in one of their stores in London, GB which was only closed at least 4 months ago now still used an old PC connected to an LCD Monitor (4:3 aspect ratio) running Windows XP (or POS Ready 2009 but idk since I never looked at the winver program on the machine) which they used as an electronic catalogue because the store had not been refurbished in over a decade and was still using paper-catalogues instead of IBM Brand touch-screen computers (probably but idk) running Windows 7 which their newer stores had been upgraded to or using Samsung tablets locked to a single app which their newly refurbished stores had been upgraded to so there are definitely still businesses using ancient technology, well at least here in the UK and at least in the retail sector. Another example I have is the variety store chain "Wilkinsons" aka "Wilko" still using Windows XP because it's what the program they use for handling internal stocks run on and I saw this being used several months ago at their store in Kingston-Upon-Thames, Surrey/London...
The thing is when you have bespoke software and programs that are designed around internet explorer and Windows XP navigating to a newer system is very time consuming and costly so many businesses will do everything to avoid having to upgrade.
Actually we use IE because most of IP cameras and NVRs require IE to change its settings and even if it work on any modern browser it requires IE to live view it because they require plugins that only work in IE
Well good thing you can use Edge. Just add that NVR as an IE site and it will open in IE mode on Edge.
@@mxdanger but the plugins don't work so no live view luckily it is lan so no security risk for the most part
@Chamber also hikvision and dahua
All jokes aside though, Internet Explorer had a good run and definitely is a nostalgic piece of memory for a lot of people.
Here is a story about something that requires internet explorer. The company I work for uses sharepoint to store projects. See below.
However, if you want to edit them using desktop office apps, microsoft expects you to use onedrive to sync the directories you want to work on. However, when you have thousands of files across hundreds of directories that you constantly work on across 4 locations and a massive team, sync errors happen all the time. Not to mention it costs a lot of time to fix all these errors and teach users how to properly use onedrive.
We used to use google drive, which had a streaming option for business use which was perfect, but now that we migrated to sharepoint, onedrive doesn't support it.
So the only alternative is to map a sharepoint directory as a network drive using the net use command. However, in order to get all the permissions to work seamlessly, you have to sign into sharepoint with ie to get an authentication token. If you try to use any other browser, it will not work (other than edge in ie mode). This has something to do with network drives using the webDav protocol.
Hope that sparked an interest.
We do something similar, but rather than using a script we use Cloud Drive Mapper from IAM Cloud. They're still using WebDAV for now but as it's technically unsupported by MS, they're writing their own middleware to release a v3 that doesn't rely on WebDAV. They've been teasing it for years though, so it's taking its time to release.
@@itskdog That's funny that you mention that, we are currently on the 4th time extended trial of CDM. We are planning on deploying it soon but I'm still trying to find a way around it :P.
So far I found out that web browsers store 2 critical cookies that allow a user to sign into sharepoint. I want to see if I can grab those cookies and and move them to wherever internet explorer stores its cookies to see if that will allow me to retain access. If so, I might try to build a little app/service that can handle the sign in process and keep a user logged in.
Had to change this settings at work just for 1 app. It is not updated anymore because it will die (question is when). I work in a company that make cheques and this app is used for the paper version. More and more we are using electronic version. But there is still a regio that did not switch to electronic so we still have to use it to give support.
ThioJoe Forgot to add that its mostly government related services that still actually needs it.
Declaration, Healthcare, Insurance. The list goes bloody on and on.
I had to go through hell to get my company to approve a deployment of IE mode through the Enterprise Site List and pretty much reroute all IE access to Edge...
Anyways, Anyone out there who uses IE-Mode should run it completely isolated in a VM or on a computer with absolutely no personal data whatsoever. Old websites get compromised so easily there's no telling what malicious actor can do once you click on a compromised site link...
I think you can use Windows Defender Application Guard (if using Windows 10). That should still support IE mode from what I remember. It's quick to launch and super easy to manage. You can also use the Windows Sandbox if you wish. Those two are the best if you don't want to download any external program, plus they work flawlessly. But you probably know all of this.
R.I.P Internet Explorer, thank you for helping me fix my chrome when it's side by side config was broken...
I work for a company that still uses a web portal that only functions in IE and the things we do in it are required for us to remain employed. Our laptops, however, must remain OS current. When we get Win11, IE will no longer be on the OS and they disable IE Mode in Edge via domain policy. It will be interesting to see what they do then. Probably nothing and force us to use our home PCs to access the site knowing them. That’ll be fun being my personal PC is Linux. I’d hate to have to setup a VM just to keep a job with stubborn leadership. May be evaluating my employment status with them if it comes to that.
The biggest phone company in Mexico -TELMEX- still uses IE for their WebApp services management. They also use a NETTERM-like interface for assigning lines
Regarding the last chapter of the video, it is indeed the case at my workplace. We have an internal web page that can't be accessed otherwise. We very rarely use it, because we have other means to access its contents, but in very rare cases this compatibility thing comes in really handy.
i work in Fintech and we have been slowly replacing IE with chrome/edge, but so many bank related web services are based on IE, tomorrow will be so fun
Goodbye Internet Explorer
Hello Mircosoft Edge
Thanks for the heads up and I enjoy your videos your doing great 👍 👌
Finaly! That took longer than expected!
4:20 in my last job we had to work with an ancient web app that required specifically I.E. 7, and it was a good day when they finally allowed us to use I.E. 8. That was back in 2018
Rest in Peace Internet Explorer...You were my first internet browser as a kid in the late 90's and early 2000's.
Thank you so much for everything..♥
Internet explorer : what is my purpose?
Me : you install Google chrome
Internet explorer : oh my god
This is definitely geared towards corporate users. The company I work for has the old call center scheduling and adherence system specifically compatible with IE as it was current at the time it was built and and aren't going to move it until absolutely necessary. Basically boils down to if it ain't broke don't fix it. There was a huge push to make sure everyone had their schedule accessable in edge prior to the EOL date for IE. As a security measure they had to remove IE from all devices to stay HIPAA compliant.
I have worked for companies that did have very old machines that did either use old versions of Windows or Internet Explore to cut items out of metal. We would create a design and then have to save it as an older file type, like MS-Dos for the machine to read it. They did look into moving to newer software, by changing out the mother board verses buying new equipment. They even tried to get IT to create a script to translate the files but just felt it easier to keep using the machine unitl it broke or the software wouldn't save the file to that type anymore.
M&T bank still requires IE 11 with IE 8 compatibility mode to access their commercial banking lock box accounts. Edge with IE compatibility turned on doesn’t even work, it’s so frustrating.
RIP Internet Explorer, the browser that grandmas use because they don't even know there are other options.
I do believe it greys out the IE mode option when the website uses modern tech / a modern HTML doctype.
IE has been around a lot longer than that. I have a Windows-98SE box that had IE as part of Windows. Previous versions of windows still had it optional. Desktop Browser was incorporated into IE to make it necessary to have but I extricated it anyway with a music editor.
My school system still uses msdos for like half of the non classroom computers, so it's not that big of a surprise that people still use IE that commonly.
As someone working for one of the biggest automotive companies, i can confirm ie is required...and let me tell you, the "website" is clunky, bad and hinders productivity.
If I have to run something in IE mode, is there a way to disable the annoying banner that appears when a new tab or window opens? Google has nothing.
I'm always curious what the active desktop Joe has on his PC, in the background
I saw this on the news at 10am. and I thought this would have died before this. XD!
R.I.P
Microsoft has dabbled in the dark arts, and the witches and warlocks of Microsoft have succeeded in their goal of removing the curse on our Windows computers.
Some Websites still require Internet Explorer, that's why Microsoft added that compatibility mode to Edge. A car dealer in my town is using a web management system and it's not properly working without that compatibility. Somehow that's an old system they use and can't get rid of it
All developers around the world are celebrating today :)
I work at a hospital and we use internet explorer, I tried opening my work apps in Chrome and Edge and they do not work, it sucks because Internet explore is super slow and makes my job harder then what it should be. I really hope the hospital switches to a better application to work more efficiently
I work with a variety of network CCTV cameras, and IE is still very much essential, as the internal browser configuration firmware will often not work with Edge, even if it is in IE compatibility mode.
Does this mean Windows server will replace internet explorer with edge now?
The Core UI Of the Windows desktop still uses some internet explorer components. What are your thoughts on this?
They'll have redone all of that work a long time ago
I had a contract with a bank, and yes they still use DOS. As you mentioned correctly many of their databases and internal tools work perfectly in Explorer, if you try to use Edge or Chrome they don't load correctly or freeze and crash.
Ironically old crap like that is more secure because no hacker or modern virus is designed to exploit it.
As you said its mostly for companies, we use that in my work place, and most do not update them.
I mean, it's been kind of deprecated since forever, couldn't even load RUclips on it anymore.
The latest update uninstalls IE but it makes Edge run in the background which loads your PC with trackers, I recommend disabling Edge.
Just did the 06-2022 cumulative update for Win10 21H2 and I.E. still works.. didn't uninstall it.
The internet's ex
I know a bank operating in around 7 states which uses a CBS so old that it apparently doesn't even run with Edge's IE compatibility mode. And they won't do anything about it.
Lol I work for in IT at a hospital and you're spot on. They do use IE for ALOT of things.
Of course they do most still use Windows XP although I don't blame them. I would love Windows XP 64 bit on modern hardware myself.
Sidebar: Sometimes when I do a search in a website, previous searches from other websites will be suggested for me to choose. Is there a way to clear those? I use Widows 10 with a Chrome browser.
Some government agencies may use old apps that require Internet Explorer and unable to update it. Obviously, businesses and government can't have huge disruptions