Also, I am happy with this episode, because honestly? Trying to explain Wiccan's origin in the comics causes headaches. This is streamlined, and makes concise sense.
You can find this online: around 2017, Alice Oseman did Heartstopper art of Nick and Charlie as Hulkling and Wiccan for Halloween. In 2017. That was before Heartstopper was greenlit as a series let alone having Charlie cast! The sheer...wildness of how it all turned out with this episode is astounding
I don’t think Wanda had anything to do with Billy transferring to William. Billy and Tommy were ‘disappearing’ as the hex came down, and I think Billy just instinctually looked for a way to survive at the same time poor William was dying. I think Lilia just saw that he needed to be protected from other witches. Her divination skills don’t always seem to be the most reliable, so I doubt that she had any in-depth understanding of what was going to happen, only that he was in some kind of danger.
Yep, Jac and Joe have confirmed it. It makes way more sense, Rio isn’t really a member of the coven, she’s a “tourist.” Agatha obviously thought it meant her though.
Joe was phenomenal in this episode. Billy never had a physical body so for him probably was a nightmare because he wake up outside the Hex and completely alone in a real new body that was another person. Is creepy if you think about it
The thing that makes me sad is, Billy and Tommy are really innocent and they both don't know that they are both going to die, they both even said good night to each other, Billy shouted Tommy's name because he was the last person he saw
This episode was wickedly emotional and had an epic origin story!!! Katheryn and Joe both DESERVE Emmys for their performances!!! I really loved the twist of each member of the coven played a part in both William Kaplan’s and Billy Maximoff’s lives. I’m excited for the next episodes!!! 🧑🏻🦱🕍🔮🪬🚙💥☠️👻✨🧙♀️🛣️🫂😱🤯😆😈💙🖤💜 NEW THEORIES AND OBSERVATIONS🔽 🔘Seeing Billy and Eddie affirm their love was romantically sweet. I do however wonder if the 🖤 on the list given by Lilia actually meant Eddie as he texted it to Billy. Also are they using the power of deceptive illusions to imply that Eddie is actually a disguised Teddy aka Hulkling, Billy’s future love interest. 🔘Jen and Lilia aren’t dead as there are more scenes they’re present in; could they have arrived later or was rescued by Rio. 🔘There are moments when Lilia is possessed by another person and used to communicate. Is it possible that somebody like Mephisto could’ve had control over her when “she” created the sigil. 🔘When Lilia was attempting to return William’s coat, but she couldn’t remember, was the woman asking about him actually Rio as we never see the woman’s face. 🔘I’m still convinced that Billy’s spell book was actually an unknown pocket sized copy of the Darkhold that might still be slowly corrupting Billy on his quest to find Tommy.
Billy maximoff jumped into William kaplan's body on his own with no help from the Scarlet witch. The X-Men series have already established some psychics have the ability to transfer their consciousness into a empty vessel like professor x in X-Men The last stand. Also another X-Men character that has this ability is the Shadow King who was featured in The legion TV show starring Aubrey plaza. Not to mention if Scarlet witch was able to send her children souls into other bodies in the 616 universe why would she travel the multiverse looking for them because even if she didn't remember what body she sent her children souls into due to the sigil she was still remember they're still in her universe.
exactly what I was thinking. I’ve been thinking about the gut wrenching scene when Billy after embarking on the road has to confront the Kaplans and tell them the truth about that day but they still end up accepting him 🥹
If I was going to film a cameo scene with the smallest possible chance of leaks (ie Bohner!) then I would not fly Evan Peters to set, I would pick a day when Evan, Joe, and Miles were all in a city on the same day and hijack their evening. One of the reactors I watch said he swore the parking garage was the carpark at the Burbank studios. That works for me! Also EMMYS FOR EVERYONE!!!!! I think the tell is that both Wanda and Billy clench their jaws and twitch their fingers when stressed. Also, Joe seems to have deliberately adopted Elizabeth Olsen's slightly lopsided smirk
Such a great episode. Joe was so good, and Detective Agatha was hilarious. “Mr. Bohnerific” sent me, and the closet joke was a Joe ad lib. I think the “tell” Billy shares with Wanda must be plot significant for them to be holding it back. 👀 I think Agatha and Rio being exes is pretty explicit, I don’t think they’ve been coy about it. I doubt things are ending well for them in this show, but I’m guessing we’ll get a kiss in whatever Salem era flashbacks seem to be coming, based on the trailers. Manifesting that the last three episodes will be closer to this length. I’m also manifesting Joe not being in Vision Quest, I don’t want to watch a Paul Bettany project.
I always worry about the flashback episodes when it comes to marvel shows but this one delivered lmao your reactions to Evan Peters was amazing it was so great to see him and really looking forward to seeing how the show plays out great video
"We need to get Joe Locke into a musical".
After filming this he did Sweeney Todd on Broadway. Pattie Lupone sent him flowers for his first night.
15:59, you can see in the crystal ball its the goth Teen/Billy instead of the current William sitting in the room. (but upside down)
Also, I am happy with this episode, because honestly? Trying to explain Wiccan's origin in the comics causes headaches. This is streamlined, and makes concise sense.
You can find this online: around 2017, Alice Oseman did Heartstopper art of Nick and Charlie as Hulkling and Wiccan for Halloween.
In 2017. That was before Heartstopper was greenlit as a series let alone having Charlie cast! The sheer...wildness of how it all turned out with this episode is astounding
I don’t think Wanda had anything to do with Billy transferring to William. Billy and Tommy were ‘disappearing’ as the hex came down, and I think Billy just instinctually looked for a way to survive at the same time poor William was dying.
I think Lilia just saw that he needed to be protected from other witches. Her divination skills don’t always seem to be the most reliable, so I doubt that she had any in-depth understanding of what was going to happen, only that he was in some kind of danger.
This show is so good!
I. think Billy was the black heart on the coven list. Lillia couldn't write his name down because of the sigil.
which means we’re still getting Billy’s trial soon 🤯
Yep, Jac and Joe have confirmed it. It makes way more sense, Rio isn’t really a member of the coven, she’s a “tourist.” Agatha obviously thought it meant her though.
Joe was phenomenal in this episode. Billy never had a physical body so for him probably was a nightmare because he wake up outside the Hex and completely alone in a real new body that was another person. Is creepy if you think about it
He was so good. ❤️❤️
The thing that makes me sad is, Billy and Tommy are really innocent and they both don't know that they are both going to die, they both even said good night to each other, Billy shouted Tommy's name because he was the last person he saw
This episode was wickedly emotional and had an epic origin story!!! Katheryn and Joe both DESERVE Emmys for their performances!!! I really loved the twist of each member of the coven played a part in both William Kaplan’s and Billy Maximoff’s lives. I’m excited for the next episodes!!!
🧑🏻🦱🕍🔮🪬🚙💥☠️👻✨🧙♀️🛣️🫂😱🤯😆😈💙🖤💜
NEW THEORIES AND OBSERVATIONS🔽
🔘Seeing Billy and Eddie affirm their love was romantically sweet. I do however wonder if the 🖤 on the list given by Lilia actually meant Eddie as he texted it to Billy. Also are they using the power of deceptive illusions to imply that Eddie is actually a disguised Teddy aka Hulkling, Billy’s future love interest.
🔘Jen and Lilia aren’t dead as there are more scenes they’re present in; could they have arrived later or was rescued by Rio.
🔘There are moments when Lilia is possessed by another person and used to communicate. Is it possible that somebody like Mephisto could’ve had control over her when “she” created the sigil.
🔘When Lilia was attempting to return William’s coat, but she couldn’t remember, was the woman asking about him actually Rio as we never see the woman’s face.
🔘I’m still convinced that Billy’s spell book was actually an unknown pocket sized copy of the Darkhold that might still be slowly corrupting Billy on his quest to find Tommy.
It was brilliant to simplify Billy's story, because in the comics it's confusing.
Billy maximoff jumped into William kaplan's body on his own with no help from the Scarlet witch. The X-Men series have already established some psychics have the ability to transfer their consciousness into a empty vessel like professor x in X-Men The last stand. Also another X-Men character that has this ability is the Shadow King who was featured in The legion TV show starring Aubrey plaza. Not to mention if Scarlet witch was able to send her children souls into other bodies in the 616 universe why would she travel the multiverse looking for them because even if she didn't remember what body she sent her children souls into due to the sigil she was still remember they're still in her universe.
Also... no more surprises left?
hahahahaha... ha
I expect White RoboPapa to be called to help his little no-longer imaginary boy find his twin
What if the Missing thing that Billy gets at the end of the road isn't Tommy but Willaim and Billy's Memories?
exactly what I was thinking. I’ve been thinking about the gut wrenching scene when Billy after embarking on the road has to confront the Kaplans and tell them the truth about that day but they still end up accepting him 🥹
Damn if I could have a bar mitzvah and have Patti LuPone show up I'd convert! ;)
Right?! Sign me up hahaha
If I was going to film a cameo scene with the smallest possible chance of leaks (ie Bohner!) then I would not fly Evan Peters to set, I would pick a day when Evan, Joe, and Miles were all in a city on the same day and hijack their evening. One of the reactors I watch said he swore the parking garage was the carpark at the Burbank studios.
That works for me!
Also EMMYS FOR EVERYONE!!!!!
I think the tell is that both Wanda and Billy clench their jaws and twitch their fingers when stressed. Also, Joe seems to have deliberately adopted Elizabeth Olsen's slightly lopsided smirk
Such a great episode. Joe was so good, and Detective Agatha was hilarious. “Mr. Bohnerific” sent me, and the closet joke was a Joe ad lib. I think the “tell” Billy shares with Wanda must be plot significant for them to be holding it back. 👀
I think Agatha and Rio being exes is pretty explicit, I don’t think they’ve been coy about it. I doubt things are ending well for them in this show, but I’m guessing we’ll get a kiss in whatever Salem era flashbacks seem to be coming, based on the trailers.
Manifesting that the last three episodes will be closer to this length. I’m also manifesting Joe not being in Vision Quest, I don’t want to watch a Paul Bettany project.
if he is the blackheart (and I think he is), it means Rio is just there to be next to Agatha (and collect bodies)
Great episode ❤
I always worry about the flashback episodes when it comes to marvel shows but this one delivered lmao your reactions to Evan Peters was amazing it was so great to see him and really looking forward to seeing how the show plays out great video
wanda didn’t do anything, billy put his soul in william.