Can the ECHO DCS5000 BATTERY CHAINSAW Really Perform? [56v]
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2022
- A real world review of the Echo DCS5000 eForce battery powered chainsaw. I unbox, review and use this saw for the first time thinning saplings for fire prevention.
I chose the echo 18 inch battery chainsaw because of it's performance in a comparison test I saw. It was up against every other top brand and popular battery chainsaw out there and it beat them all. Echo has made chainsaws a long time and makes good chainsaws. So when I saw (no pun intended) that it beat out the Stihl and Husqvarna saws (and the DeWalt which is very popular) I decided the echo cordless chainsaw was the first battery powered chainsaw I should try out.
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I purchased this saw two weeks ago. Never would have considered a battery saw. Due to dry conditions in southern Oregon, I needed another option for felling and bucking dead trees on the property. Very impressed so far. It does not replace a gas powered saw, but it definitely has its place on my arsenal for summer time work… Special thanks to Zolls lawn and garden for changing my mind about battery saws.
Same reason I got this one. Best to have options!
Terrific review, easy to watch. Impressive battery saw for sure
Hey thanks Steve!
First time viewer, and this review earned you a subscriber, great review, I just picked up one of these saws, other than cutting up a few sticks in my yard haven't used it yet, I was skeptical when I bought it, but a good deal came on at my local dealer, with a spare 2.5 amp battery in addition to the 5, I'll be finding out soon enough if it will last to fill my halfton with poplar poles. Thanks again for this review, has put my mind somewhat at ease I haven't hosed myself.
Thanks! Wait until you see me compare it to a 38cc gas saw! Wow the Echo is awesome for what it is!
@@TheOldJarhead looking forward to that, my current gasser is a 3-4 year old 40 cc Champion, I almost bought an electric when I got it but didn't think the batteries were ready for what I needed. I've been recomending battery saws to any casual users for a couple years love that if the battery is charged they are ready to go, no fuel going old, and all the other problems with a small engine that sits for long times of no use and poor maintenance.
exactly!
Really great work! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for watching! My wife may be stealing this little saw from me now, it's the only one I have she not only is willing to use but WANTS to use!
Very good! I have the dewalt 40v. I wish I would have waited for the 60v version. I keep mine on the 4 wheeler and use it on the sawmill all the time. I just run vegetable oil for bar oil so I can keep it in my basement in the winter. I've discovered the batteries are worth as much as the saw. But it's good for smaller jobs and it always starts and I don't have to pull a rope. Great video!
Cheers !!
Thanks! I got to use the DeWalt on a job (customers saw) and it was a good little saw! It was also the winner of a contest about a year ago between all the top saws on the market. I chose the Echo this time because in this years review it beat all the other saws and then when put up against the DeWalt it won that one too! (barely)....I'm impressed with it so far!
I got one a few months ago. It’s really excellent. Never an issue. Battery last a really long time as shown.
Thanks for posting. Mine is still as it was almost two years ago! Going strong!
I got a Husqvarna 572XP a year and a half ago to take down five white pines on the farm where I live. I have a 32" and a 24" bar, and it's been a great saw all around. I work for a tree company that almost exclusively has Stihl, and I think Husqvarna does a better job on the small details like the fuel & oil caps, captive bar nuts and choke/kill switch action.
I am strongly considering the Echo DCS-5000 to have a smaller saw around for cutting down small trees and limbing as well as when I very occasionally climb and prune trees around the yard. For short weekend projects, I wouldn't hear my wife complain that I smell like 2-stroke exhaust! Thanks for the video!
Love my Husqvarna saws! But this Echo is a great addition to the family and my wife likes using it too and she won't run a gas saw ;) I would say only get the one battery unless you plan to use the saw all day! We found 1 was more than enough most of the time!
I have the first gen Echo electric chainsaw. On my 3rd year with it. It has been amazing, not one issue or complaint. Buddies are always wanting to borrow it.
Two years here! Love it!
Good demo video. I bought my wife a 80 volt kobalt with a16” bar , works like a champ . Just unbelievable how long the batteries last today , especially on a tool that has the torque to cut threw dry wood. Thanks for sharing
Cool! I was really impressed with the torque and a friend recently told me that the chap manufacturers don't like the torque of these little saws because they can keep going through the chaps!!! However, what I really liked was that the chain stops almost immediately after you let off the trigger! I didn't include that in the video but it was something that I believe is a good feature. And my wife likes this saw too and she won't use a gas saw!
@@TheOldJarhead
I like how the saw stops Immediately when you let up on the trigger. My wife won’t run a gas operated saw either. But she loves this one. Never herd about the torque and the chaps. Thanks for letting me know about that. Take care .
There was a part of the video I left out (because it was just too long) where I talk about just that! It's like a safety even though it isn't one, the saw just stops! No high idle spinning of the chain as you draw the saw away from bucking branches etc, it just quits! Very nice!
I use the Ryobi 40V lineup. Chainsaw, blower and string trimmer. I was hard on the saw for a solid hour before the 6Ah battery konked out. Only took 45 minutes to fully charge. I use a 4Ah and a 5Ah battery on the blower and the 6Ah batteries on the more used tools. Looking forward to trying out the new 8Ah and 12Ah batteries coming out.
I use a lot of Ryobi stuff and considered their chainsaw but the Echo seemed to be the better saw overall so went that route but I have a lot of Ryobi's and I think they are underrated! Good tools if you ask me!
I have a husky 455 rancher! Great saw!
I will soon have an Echo battery saw as you demonstrated!
Please consider.... start your timer the instant you make contact with whatever saw you are going to cut with!
Otherwise the disadvantages of having to "start" the gas saw get dismissed!
But Thank-You for the video.
Thanks for watching! I appreciate your feedback and I'll definitely take it into consideration for future videos. I'm glad you enjoyed the video overall and I hope you find the Echo battery saw just as impressive as the Husky 455 rancher!
Have had mine going on 5 years now so just to add to your great review..
I’ve had the same battery the whole time. I actually see very little loss in battery life. The run time for the brushless motor on one charge is impressive. I volunteered as a camp host for two years and used this a lot. I cut a 60 foot oak off of a trail that was a foot and a half in diameter. After an hour and a half of steady hard cutting I still had 25%. It’s an AWESOME little saw. I have 10 acres I work. This is my go to saw for trim work on all my firewood. ReCharge time is also quick. Do let the saw come to full rpm’s before cutting. One thing I do not like (may be fixed with the newer ones) it will leak bar chain oil so you need to be careful where you set it down. The only issue I’ve ever had is the breaker bar spring got weak preventing the saw from running. Last thing is if you over torque your cut the saw may quit working. This is a protection circuit, to reset you press and hold the battery power indicator for 3 seconds. Really great saw!
Awesome feedback! Thank you!
5 years? You must have the 58V old design not this new 56V 5000. Hopefully any issues you’ve had with old one is fixed up with this new design
@@juddblaney9320 yeah the 56V was just release around Jan or Feb of 2022.
That was my confusion. I bought mine right around then (the review came out later since I didn't have a chance to make use of it until then) and went in to buy the 58v saw and walked out with the 56v so sometimes I was calling it a 58v saw lol....at least your post makes me feel somewhat less sheepish! ha!
@@TheOldJarhead I think you ended up with a better saw. There are reviews out there about the 58v batteries having serious issues and some people were waiting a really long time to get replacements under warranty. I almost jumped on the 58v about 2 years ago because of the Project Farm comparison video, but I'm glad I waited for the new 56v line to come out.
Great review
Thanks!
Good video! I've been thinking of one for use around the sawmill, cutting up slabs, getting branch stubs off logs etc. I would be curious as to how the batteries do over time. One minor drawback to battery saws I can think of is longevity...I had my uncles 40 year old Stihl that I can put gas and oil in and be good to go...I doubt in 40 years one could find a specific battery to fit a battery saw. That being said, I still want one!
I had similar concerns as my Husky saws just don't quit! The oldest is 17 years old and still runs fine and that 455 rancher? 12 years old and I used to chainsaw mill with it and it's still my goto saw for most things! But I must admit, I am loving the Echo battery saw! So easy to use, so much torque and the batteries seem to last a LONG time -- that was my biggest concern!
See my comment above about battery
I picked up echo's eForce DCS-2500T, top handle,56V, 12" bar + am very impressed ! It weighs 7.4lbs nice + light for tree work up in the canopy.
*****
Great to hear!
I bought a 56V DCS5000 from Home Depot for $339 with an 18" bar and one battery. I'll never need a second battery. I injured my left shoulder and it had become too painful to start my Stihl MS250 (also with an 18"bar). I've had the Echo a couple of months and filled my woodshed with it. I have a trailer I pull behind my ATV and when it's full, I pull it back home, split and stack the wood and the battery is charged before I return, IF I have enough charge to go back out. We burn a fireplace all winter and I also have a 5.5 mile motorcycle trail to keep cleared. I mostly cut oak and poplar. Only pine if it has fallen across the trail. I've fallen in love with the Echo and even sold my Stihl to my neighbor because I can't see myself ever using it again. The Echo is so much easier to use and so less fatiguing. Hands down a better saw than the Stihl.
Awesome! I have to admit I love that little saw. It will not replace my big saws but it's a great little chainsaw! Merry Christmas!
@@TheOldJarhead Here on the Gulf Coast the only large trees we have are the protected live oaks and they make horrible firewood anyway. An 18" saw is the biggest I will ever need. Merry Christmas!
Nice! Sorry I missed this reply! Crazy start to the new year!
We use several Echos, Stihl and other chainsaws. I prefer Echos. Absolutely nothing wrong with the Stihls or Husqvarnas. I feel I get very similar power and quality with the Echos with a better value. Just recently purchased the DCS-2500T battery climbing saw and my main climber now uses it exclusively. I still use the CS-355T because I like the feel but the 2500T is really nice. Have been considering adding the DCS-5000 for limbing and larger cuts so that we can stay on the same 56v battery platform. Thanks for the video.
I agree 100% They all make good saws and the Echos do seem to provide great bang for your bucks. I think you'll like the DCS5000 as it's an impressive little saw!
I not know about Echos in fact I always been with Stihl and Husky at time i have the Stihl MSA300, 220C and 161T, in regard to this machines I think they are excellent my only complaint is on how long the batteries last in one charger except on the 161T. The MSA300 it is powerful feels like a professional machine but even the top battery AP500S sure not last long.
I have an Echo CCS-58V 58 volt chainsaw and it's now my go-to saw for quick work. It's easy start, fast, quiet and it doesn't smell like a chainsaw. Project Farm compared about 10 different battery chainsaws and the Echo was the best. You will love that saw.
(BTW; I caught the chaps/ Dave dig)
LOL I had to admit I wasn't wearing them just for you! And I think the video you are referring to is the reason I bought the Echo! Great competition and it convinced me to spend the money!
@@TheOldJarhead Your new Echo will be your go-to saw.
No I don't think it will LOL my wife is going to steal it! ha!
Thank for a good video done in the real world..!
Glad you liked it!
Sir you made go buy one. It is a beast!
Nice! Mine has proven itself over and over again;)
I have almost four acres and it's very thick with brush and trees. The inlaws has about 12 acres of wooded land. I'm seriously thinking about getting this saw. Thanks for the video
It's a good saw! Of course, it's a smaller saw, so plan accordingly, but I just used mine to cut a lot of 2x4x12s into 8's so they'd fut in the back of my truck. Easy peasy!
would be nice to see a comparison between this saw and the husky540i , would be nice to see hoe the stihl performs too. I have a lot of Milwaukee and Dewalt batteries , another different battery is always big consideration
Good idea!
Bar oil - I have my big jug of bar oil - but for putting oil into my saws I have a quart container with a nozzle top. I bought that container all filled up with bar oil at the big-box store, used up the bar oil it came with, them I just refill it from the big jug. Helps keep things neat.
DCS-5000 - I was looking for an electric chainsaw to complement my two gas-powered Stihl's, for when I need to quickly slice something up and get it out of the way - and because, face it, one more chainsaw is always a good idea. This one fits in well in my collection - I've got a little Stihl with a 14" bar and a big Stihl with a 24" bar, but I don't have an 18" bar - so now I do. Spent some time looking at reviews on various websites and it seemed that the Echo saws were reasonably well-regarded. I bought mine at Home Depot because they had them in stock near me.
We had a couple trees come down the other week that didn't *exactly* knock our pasture fence down flat because they were still kind of supported, but they were leaning on the fence and you just know that after the next strong windstorm or two they'd come down solidly across the fence and our goats would be out of the pasture and headed for the tall timber, so some cleanup was necessary. So I charged that battery up, which took about an hour and a half, and then took it out to use. What can I say? It's a new chainsaw with a fresh chain - it went thought the semi-rotted wood I needed to cut with no problems. I like that it's convenient and doesn't require that I tug and yank to start it, which should come in especially handy when it's zero degrees out and we get a tree across the driveway. Stihl saws start reasonably well but I've never met a 2-cycle motor that likes starting in sub-freezing temps so that battery saw should have a big advantage there.
TLDR: first time out was problem free, looking forward to future chances to use it.
Awesome comment! Since making this video, I've continued to use this little saw and must say it continues to impress! Thanks!
How about a side by side comparison of this Echo and the Husky 540 I battery operated saw?
Good one! Noted! Thanks!
Excellent think I made my mind up.
Nice! Let me know what you think!
Great saw, but I wonder how it would compare with a husky 540I ?? Any ideas ?
Nice! Why yes I have an idea but meanwhile you just got two more entries!
I have the little top handle. It's a worker. I maxed out the bar taking down a large branch and it has no issue. I like it better than the new Milwaukee top handle.
Thanks for sharing
Looks like a nice saw, I would like to see a side by side comparison to the Husky 540i.
Nice! Noted ;)
Mr. Jarhead, I am a rookie to chainsaw use. I have the Echo DCS-5000 and I'm having trouble keeping the chain on the bar( comes off after a minute of use). Can you think of any reasons this might be happening? Thanks
Hey, welcome to my channel and thanks for the question! First thing I'd check is the tension of the chain on the bar. It may be too loose. Second may be the way it's used: too much flex in the bar, pushing, pulling etc. Third may be that it came off, got some minor damage on the chain and won't ride properly in the groove. The chain should fit nicely in the groove of the bar and easily move around it (when not on the chainsaw you can get a good feel for it). I just had the chain come off mine twice in the same day and before I took a good look at it I had the chain on my big Husqvarna 572 Pro saw come off! That chain had minor damage to the chain for some reason, so I tossed the chain, put on a fresh one (reasonably fresh anyway) and went back to sawing and all was well. Don't forget to check the bar too (make sure not bent) and rotate the bar often (you'll notice sometimes you see my bar upside down, that's important to do to prevent excessive wear on the bottom of the bar)... Hope that helps!
I recently got 15 acres. I’m thinking about getting into the 56V Echo lineup including this and then getting a large gas powered Echo chainsaw for the big stuff
I think it's worth the money. I like my big Husky saws and don't see saws like thus ever replacing them but it definitely has its place!
When we bought our 20 acres I bought my 455 Rancher. Good saw and now 13 years later I still use it. Now my 572xp is an awesome saw that has power to spare for big stuff and again, love that saw too ;)
Lets see a side by side comparison of this chainsaw and the 540Ii. Also is battery life sufficient.
Got it! I plan on just that! So far battery life has been very good and I hope to challenge the batteries pretty hard, specially this winter when batteries don't have as much life to give (32F drops a batter to roughly 75% of normal capacity so this could be a good test). There's a comment below on battery life that I found very interesting and was a big positive for this saw at least, seems after a number of years the batteries continued to hold their longevity.
I’ve owed this saw for a couple of years. My only complaint is, if you let the chain get just a little slack and it jumps off the blade. Most of the time damage will occur to the drive teeth.
Good to know! I've had mine almost two years and it's been used pretty heavily and I've not had that happen but I keep my chains tight. I know a lot of very experienced guys keep chains loose for ease of putting them back on in the woods but I've always gone the other way and kept wrenches handy. Cheers!
I would love to be your videographer for the comparison to the Husky saw!!
Deal! ;)
What's your 1 year evaluation and how are the batteries still holding up?
18 months now, and they are doing great! I have two batteries and they are doing great. I now also have the leaf blower and am impressed.
I am impressed with that saw but convince me to get the husky 540i instead
Good idea! and noted! Hey, did you notice I gave you a shout out in that video! Thanks for the awesome idea! We'll have to do a side by side comparison with the HF saw you got!
Does this saw vibrate at the handles like a gas saw?
Nope! It's very nice to run. I have arthritis on both hands and have no problem running it.
Hi thank you for this video are you still liking that echo 5000? Any issues ??
ruclips.net/video/AhV1vU9xO-Q/видео.html Loving it 😁 I use it alot where I don't need a big saw and also love the matching leaf blower!
@@TheOldJarhead …. That’s great to know. Has it ever over heated on you. I seen couple of videos of people saying it over heats
Nope! I've used it in the summer in pretty warm temps (hot) and no problem. Batteries do get hot but they last a long time and I just change them out if I need to keep going. Frankly, I have gas powered saws for prolonged use anyway. This little saw won't replace a 50cc gas saw (let alone my Husky 572xp) but it is a great saw for what it's made for!
@@TheOldJarhead got it thank you so much for the info
Any time!
try a on off valve with a clear tube, avaiable online. for a few bucks. I never spill a drip of oil, unless i overfill which is all on me. Doc.
Good idea thanks!
I’m a self employed landscaper.
I own this saw.
Everything is amazing.
But the bar oil leaks out a lot … I have to make sure I leave I bit of saw wood dust left in the chainsaw after use to keep the leak from getting to messy
Yup, just noticed that after this weekend! Leaked on my rubber mat in my truck. Otherwise it's a great saw! Thanks for watching!
i bought this saw in june of 22 , noticed it leaking but now it leaks everywhere , oil coming out the air vents all threw the motor compartment , , didnt run it that much , first full charge and only down 2 bars , i changed bar oils no difference ,, not happy , going back to dealer today , 10/14/22
I'm sorry to hear that! I've used mine quite a bit and the only issue I've had (other than sawdust getting into the battery compartment) is that it does leak oil out of the bottom when sitting a while. But all my saws tend to do this actually so I just chalk it up to the typical bar oil leak all saws seem to have. Let me know if the dealer resolves this for you!!!
This is a pretty common issue, especially if you store your saw in unconditional space like a shed that can get blazing hot and ice cold. Best thing I've found is to just store it at an angle so the oiler isn't able to leak or just don't fill it up all the way and don't store it filled. You could return the saw, but it's a common issue across many brands.
I just figure they all do this lop
Did you find the squench that was hiding on Dave the Old Man?
The squench? LOL or Squach?
Wonder how the ECHO 56v compares to the new 80v Greenworks. Hmm.
Would love to run a side by side comparison!
Just bought the 18 inch echo with the five amp power battery and I get tired before the battery wears out
Yup! Great saw!
Get a 20 ounce dawn dish soap use it up clean the bottle put bar oil in it (use a funnel)now u won't spill ur bar oil very handy
That is an excellent idea! I knew someone would have a better idea than me just spilling it out every time I top off the reservoir. Thanks!
Sweet saw. Give it a drill Sgt hard time..
I'll give it a run for its money! Us Jarheads are hard on things!
While battery operated tools have come a long way, (we used the hell out of Ryobi battery circular saws while building in the woods) I can see a use for the battery chainsaw around the mill or keeping on the four wheeler for trees down in the trail type of stuff. But when felling a hard maple 18" in diameter and bucking it into logs, I do not believe that electric chainsaw would hold a candle to the 455 or 460 rancher. Just my humble opinion of coarse.
I was really surprised at the power this little saw had!
Cool. Maybe the Jackery 1500 with solar array would do it
I built our cabins offgrid system and have solar on our camper. It works well if sized right for the purpose but it isn't cheap ;)
I’m actually impressed for a battery saw. That would be handy around the sawmill.
trimguy
Yes sir! One thing I like about it is that it doesn't require anything but a battery and oil. I can have it laying around, grab it, use it, and put it down and move on. No warm up, no starting it etc etc...too easy and very powerful for such a small saw!
My charge time after almost 5 years from a full discharge is always under two hours
Awesome, is that the 56v version?
@@TheOldJarhead It is the 56 volt! I’m a cranky particular old fart hard to please. But this is one of my Best Buy’s ever
Cool! I will be putting mine to the test again soon.
@@TheOldJarhead You won’t be disappointed. I even use it for some of my heavy work, 6-8”. For big stuff I have another echo, timber wolf cs 590. It’s a beast! Year and a half so far with no issues and a great warranty.
Glad to hear it! I have a Husky 455 Rancher that is 12 years old and very good (except when the chain is dull lol) and a Husky 572xp for big stuff ;) This saw is for thinning and delimbing after I fall with the big saw a d for fire season when I can't eun the big saws!
Just bought one around $300.00 with blower
That's awesome!!!
Great review of this echo saw, I wish you had worn your chaps for this video, it only takes on slip and you’re walking like a cowboy the rest of your life.
Very true!
I bet that a Husqvarna 540I XP would beat this Echo in a side by side comparison.
I bet it will too! Noted.
hi grandpa
Hi Bud!
The Husqvarna chain needs to be sharpened
True
My battery don’t last 15 minutes
I would take it back! Mine are still going great and was just using the chainsaw last weekend and never drained it at all
@@TheOldJarhead I sent them an email we’ll see what they say 20 degrees out lasted 15 min max otherwise times
Let me know what they say! They should replace it! I have two batteries I bought in April of 2022 and both are great. I was using one of them in the next video coming up and my buddy Tim was using the saw to buck up limbs he was burning. So nearly two years and it's been great and still is. I also have the leaf blower and it's great.
@@TheOldJarhead they got back to me and said I had to take it into the service center closest one to my house is over an hour and 15 away no reply after I sent 2 email if I have make 2 trips cheaper to buy new battery kinda disappointed
Maybe ship it?
@@tooldiebum
La comparaison n est pas égale.
La husqvarna La chaîne n est pas bien affuté comparativement à l echo.
Par contre la vidéo de l echo est bien
True, I'd forgotten that after sharpening the Husqvarna chain it had nicked the sawmill and broken a tooth...I learned that later. will have to do a rematch 😉
Great saw, but please, Biden didn't have a thing to do with it.
LOL Biden?
Yes Killin me, now ya gotta elaborate lol
He's referring to when you said "hat tip to the president, great idea" when you were talking about not being able to use gas during the dry season.
lol Hat Tip PRESTON. He's a sub who suggested getting a battery saw lol
Preston
This battery powered saw sucks. Just spent $800 on it and wish I could fucking return it!!!
I'm sorry you have this bad experience! What's wrong with it? Can you take it back to the dealer and get them to warranty it? $800? Seems crazy high considering I paid $300 at HD for mine and $200 for the extra battery. Even our local Farmers Exchange (which was $500 for the saw early this year) is now $300 for it.
@@TheOldJarhead I have the echo 2500 DCS with two battery
Ahhh that's a different saw than the one I reviewed. Mine is the DCS5000. Did you try to take it in? If not I'd call Echo directly. They are a good company and make good stuff so I see no reason why they won't sort it out for you.
I’m going to put the panther Bar with the quarter inch sprocket rather than the 3/8 that it comes with stock. Supposed to add some more power. Don’t get me wrong it’s not a bad saw for an electric saw but it is no match with a gas saw! Like you said there is a purpose and I will use it and keep it in my lineup but definitely will be getting a husky climbing so next. At the moment I’m using the stihl 201 If you would like check out my page Andrew Mcneal I have some videos of me climbing. Thanks for your response enjoy your Thanksgiving!
A lot of arborists like the Husky with the remote battery. I bet that would be better ;)