As a new Xpedition owner, a couple things that I had to deal with. Arrived with flat tires. Not certain how long it was sitting on flats during storage and shipping, but the armor protectant that Lectric adds in their tires had settled in the front tire and created a bulge in the tire that causes speed wobble that I hope at some point dissipates and mellows out. I too, did not like all the excess cables and wrap dressing, so had to unwrap and redress the cabling for neatness. But note, pay attention to the tug stress on back of display and power switch. If you zip tie to the neck, and turn your bars left or right, dress it so that it doesn’t stress out and tug on wires and cables. The display and power switch was bad out of the box and had to wait a week for a replacement to arrive to be able to ride the new out of the box bike. Obtaining and carrying a back up display is recommended, being that is their problem child from what I have heard. Lastly, the bike is not quite rife ready after inflating tires. A toolkit for this bike should have been provided or pushed as an upgrade at checkout but was not. After you watch the opening the box video link, quite a bit of tools are required in order to re-torque and tighten a variety of different size tools. And, micro adjusting tire bolts that were rushed during assembly, crooked or bent brake rotors, calipers, so on so forth. I chose the Xpedition for the payload capacity, and potential long range, with the dual batteries. Also, you can reprogram the PAS within the display to make the bike Class 3 28mph, (if you peel back the class 2 20mph sticker, it has a class 3 28mph already on the frame) but with the bike not having a suspension and being somewhat of a bumpy ride, the high speed becomes a bit unstable, so be careful, and maybe consider adding a seat post shock dampener to relieve some of the bounce. One more thing, I wish that Lectric would of given a little more thought in providing a better anti-theft security (maybe quick release of the display and switch or alarm and/or built in GPS tracking) and actually having a tail light that functions as a brake light with blinkers. If this hopefully replaces cars for quick get around town trips, safety should be their focus, budget bike or not.
I know this bike comes with Slime, but I did an extra step and added Taurus tire liners for that extra tire protection because no one wants to get a flat and carry around tools and patches, or even a spare inner tube. So I have double the protection.
@@williammcpherson9953 the Tannus tire liners (sorry for the misspell in my post) The Tannus tire liners I ordered online through an outside company, I used these tire liners in the pass and now and I love them
I love this bike. I just bought a Lectric 2.0 step thru back in June 20, 2022 and bought a folding cargo trailer to go with it so I can transport inside my Semi truck. I've been trying to get my wife to ride it so I can buy another bike. I would buy this bike with Dual batteries with the Orbitor and the XL Cargo Pannier.
I've been searching for a bike to mod out into a solar bike with trailer to do some long range traveling/camping..This is the one...I'm going to make it into a Tuk Tuk, using some thin alinumum stock for the frame, and the roof and sides will be solar panels, as well as a solar panel or two for on top of the trailer...The front Braze ons along with the rear rack should be perfect to support my light weight frame and paper thin solar set up...The solar panels will act as a roof in the rain and blazing sunshine..
Main reason for cargo bikes to forgo suspension is that the range of weight carried on the bike can vary drastically; very difficult to spec out a bike with suspension that can support a 200 lb. rider vs rider plus cargo weight of 400 lb. Rigid fork would keep the handling character consistent, regardless of how much weight the cargo bike is carrying.
So I bought one of these bikes no suspension super heavy and it doesn't go 140 miles distance on a two battery charge. It's 2023 everybody's putting the cables in the frame hello but not this company. My brakes are squealing like hell trying to fix it at two other bike shops had to go through the gears and the derailers bent... The people on RUclips that are advertising these bikes on their channel are not telling you the bad things about this bike.
good job chris nice ride yea i like the road tires better when it comes to over steer under steer when my tires wear down will change them out on my 2.0 did the same thing on my radmini 3yrs ago 750 watt you need on a cargo bike or better again a great review you did.
Removing the speed caps for PAS levels 1 and 2 make the bike much more pleasant, as on flat terrain they are still useful for getting to 15-24mph while economizing your power consumption. Edit: A loud electric horn will cut through those earbuds. I start with my brass bell and tap the horn if they don’t seem to notice the bell. But I start with the horn for car drivers. 😅
Watching people cruising arnd in the south and I'm like "yeah, those roads are super smooth and that doesn't look like my neighborhood at all". Then here you are with the big old houses, leaves everywhere, and bumpy patchy roads and I'm like "YES, this man is near me, THOSE are my roads". 🤣
Interesting. So it's loud and has warped rotors, but otherwise pretty good. Rotors are replaceable, but that's a problem you can have with all disc brakes I've found. The bigger in diameter they get, the more a tiny fluctuation from true makes a difference. I bet you can air down those big 3.0 tires for more comfort too but will lose some range. On smooth roads, suspension probably wouldn't even be used. I lock it out on my mountain bike when riding on the roads because it doesn't even move until I stand up to pedal, then it gets springy, and ruins my pedaling.
I would love to see more reviews and tests of this bike in the single-battery version. We can probably all agree that the main selling point is cost, so for those of us who are on a very serious budget (as am I, since I'm looking at this to replace my RadWagon that was stolen a couple of days ago), it'd be informative to know what we're getting if we choose the most cost-effective version, i.e. the single-battery version.
Am I correct in my assumption that if I buy the single-battery version, I can upgrade to a second battery later? Lectric's website isn't clear on this, as they very clearly distinguish between the 1-battery and 2-battery option on their ordering website. In other words, if I get the single-battery version, am I stuck with it?
You can drill a small hole in the tube with a cobalt drill bit & then apply high expansive foam insulation [a minimal amount] when that hardens it will make the cable adhere to the inner wall of the tube... then you use plumbers expoxy/ bondo & fibreglass or even a rubber grommet to seal the hole... that would be an inexpensive lightweight easy & effective solution to your problem I think... Happy Trails... too bad they don't make a mid drive gear & motor unit for this bike or I would have already bought the thing... I am now thinking instead of just ordering a convo kit & making my existing bike electric
I'm torn between this and the Wicked...er...Wired Freedom. I have some long steep hills here that my Lectric 2.0 can't climb. Which would you suggest? I do like the cargo capacity of the Lectric Xpedition, but not if I have to push it uphill.
@@ChrisCrossed My Lectric 2.0 is plenty fast enough for me. I need something to do hills. Considering nothing but hill climbing capability, which bike would perform better?
The fact they didnt send the essential package that was promised for those that preordered feb 21st is such idiotic. The point of the preorder for those that pre-ordered was to use it to haul there kids , now we have a bike that cant haul the main purpose it was promoting for . Package isnt available till end of april.
The cables are longer to accommodate the fold down of the handlebars for storage/moving... they should just make a higher quality non collapsing suspension unit... its a cargo bike NOT a commuter
Tell Levi that i have been waiting for 3 months and still no delivery and i have received comments from others with trouble getting the delivery of ebike. I paid and they had no problem taking the money. We have contacted them on 4 occasion after being told a deliver date but nothing came on those dates. Very frumstrating waiting around for a delivery only to get disappointed. I know now that it is in detroit which is only 1 hour away and we are only 10 minutes from main highway. I could go there and get it and be back in three hours. Why no delivery. Come on Levi get your shipping act together. This pisses me off
I had the same question (wondered if I could convert this to a mid-drive). Here's what Lectric told me: Bottom Bracket: • Brand: KENLI • Model: KL-08AL • Spacing: 100mm • Outside-Outside: 159.5mm Hope that helps! 🙂
It seems to be ok, I just installed the Lectric suspension seat post so hoping that helps. I haven’t been able to ride too much due to weather but will be posting more videos on it.
@@ChrisCrossed yes I've seen those channels too. But they use powerful scooters. Also those are in areas like LA where everything is close together. I live in the Houston area. I would definitely need something that's faster with more range. Don't get me wrong. I like Lectric. But I have an electric skateboard that goes faster than 30 mph, so I have no use for a bike that only goes 28mph.
@@darthphaser2991 maybe you need a gas scooter or moped then. There aren't too many ebikes with this kind of price range/speed/usefulness combo that aren't above 3500. At that level you might as well get a gas vehicle. Cheaper/more economical/power/faster etc
@@akyerit yes I use a car for UberEATS. Just saying it would be cool to use an Ebike. They just don't have enough power or range. Sure I could buy an Onyx rcr or something but that's like $6000. I like that cargo bike it just isn't good enough.
@@darthphaser2991 right I guess it depends on where you live. And I was getting at, maybe find a gas powered scooter/moped for that. Could be a perfect balance for your needs. They tend to avg between 60 and a 100 mpg. And are easily customizable to fit your uber needs. Also in NYC, the professionals use the regular sized bikes with the HUGE batteries and they usually either have one charging somewhere, or carry a spare on them. And they go all day long at a pretty decent speed to boot
Wondering if anyone knows if the 3.0 step thru is lower to the ground from the saddle than the xpedition. My xpedition just came in and it's like...2 inches too tall for me. Any help would be appreciated ☺️
As a new Xpedition owner, a couple things that I had to deal with. Arrived with flat tires. Not certain how long it was sitting on flats during storage and shipping, but the armor protectant that Lectric adds in their tires had settled in the front tire and created a bulge in the tire that causes speed wobble that I hope at some point dissipates and mellows out. I too, did not like all the excess cables and wrap dressing, so had to unwrap and redress the cabling for neatness. But note, pay attention to the tug stress on back of display and power switch. If you zip tie to the neck, and turn your bars left or right, dress it so that it doesn’t stress out and tug on wires and cables. The display and power switch was bad out of the box and had to wait a week for a replacement to arrive to be able to ride the new out of the box bike. Obtaining and carrying a back up display is recommended, being that is their problem child from what I have heard. Lastly, the bike is not quite rife ready after inflating tires. A toolkit for this bike should have been provided or pushed as an upgrade at checkout but was not. After you watch the opening the box video link, quite a bit of tools are required in order to re-torque and tighten a variety of different size tools. And, micro adjusting tire bolts that were rushed during assembly, crooked or bent brake rotors, calipers, so on so forth. I chose the Xpedition for the payload capacity, and potential long range, with the dual batteries. Also, you can reprogram the PAS within the display to make the bike Class 3 28mph, (if you peel back the class 2 20mph sticker, it has a class 3 28mph already on the frame) but with the bike not having a suspension and being somewhat of a bumpy ride, the high speed becomes a bit unstable, so be careful, and maybe consider adding a seat post shock dampener to relieve some of the bounce. One more thing,
I wish that Lectric would of given a little more thought in providing a better anti-theft security (maybe quick release of the display and switch or alarm and/or built in GPS tracking) and actually having a tail light that functions as a brake light with blinkers. If this hopefully replaces cars for quick get around town trips, safety should be their focus, budget bike or not.
I know this bike comes with Slime, but I did an extra step and added Taurus tire liners for that extra tire protection because no one wants to get a flat and carry around tools and patches, or even a spare inner tube. So I have double the protection.
@@williammcpherson9953 the Tannus tire liners (sorry for the misspell in my post) The Tannus tire liners I ordered online through an outside company, I used these tire liners in the pass and now and I love them
I love this bike. I just bought a Lectric 2.0 step thru back in June 20, 2022 and bought a folding cargo trailer to go with it so I can transport inside my Semi truck. I've been trying to get my wife to ride it so I can buy another bike. I would buy this bike with Dual batteries with the Orbitor and the XL Cargo Pannier.
I've been searching for a bike to mod out into a solar bike with trailer to do some long range traveling/camping..This is the one...I'm going to make it into a Tuk Tuk, using some thin alinumum stock for the frame, and the roof and sides will be solar panels, as well as a solar panel or two for on top of the trailer...The front Braze ons along with the rear rack should be perfect to support my light weight frame and paper thin solar set up...The solar panels will act as a roof in the rain and blazing sunshine..
Awesome 👏
Document your progress and share it with the world!
Main reason for cargo bikes to forgo suspension is that the range of weight carried on the bike can vary drastically; very difficult to spec out a bike with suspension that can support a 200 lb. rider vs rider plus cargo weight of 400 lb.
Rigid fork would keep the handling character consistent, regardless of how much weight the cargo bike is carrying.
Good insights, thanks.
With a more upright riding posture this bike enables, I find I don’t mind he rigid fork. Now, a suspension seat post is likely my next upgrade.
So I bought one of these bikes no suspension super heavy and it doesn't go 140 miles distance on a two battery charge. It's 2023 everybody's putting the cables in the frame hello but not this company. My brakes are squealing like hell trying to fix it at two other bike shops had to go through the gears and the derailers bent... The people on RUclips that are advertising these bikes on their channel are not telling you the bad things about this bike.
You seem so military, so precise and accurate, thank you Chris Crossed❤,🇺🇸🎯🙏🏽🌹🎊🤘🏽
Thanks for watching
good job chris nice ride yea i like the road tires better when it comes to over steer under steer when my tires wear down will change them out on my 2.0 did the same thing on my radmini 3yrs ago 750 watt you need on a cargo bike or better again a great review you did.
Removing the speed caps for PAS levels 1 and 2 make the bike much more pleasant, as on flat terrain they are still useful for getting to 15-24mph while economizing your power consumption.
Edit: A loud electric horn will cut through those earbuds. I start with my brass bell and tap the horn if they don’t seem to notice the bell. But I start with the horn for car drivers. 😅
Good point!
Great review! Thank you!
Great video Chris. What do you think do you think it's time lectric up their game a little and goes to a color control panel?
Believe the cable in the front is extra long to accommodate the front basket accessory.
Ah perhaps, i added a zip tie to wrangle it.
This is the soccer mom van of ebikes.
Since the Wheels are electric, can I have a LED plug-n-play soft light lining to replace the reflectors on the rims?
Watching people cruising arnd in the south and I'm like "yeah, those roads are super smooth and that doesn't look like my neighborhood at all". Then here you are with the big old houses, leaves everywhere, and bumpy patchy roads and I'm like "YES, this man is near me, THOSE are my roads". 🤣
I’m very familiar with potholes!
Interesting. So it's loud and has warped rotors, but otherwise pretty good. Rotors are replaceable, but that's a problem you can have with all disc brakes I've found. The bigger in diameter they get, the more a tiny fluctuation from true makes a difference. I bet you can air down those big 3.0 tires for more comfort too but will lose some range. On smooth roads, suspension probably wouldn't even be used. I lock it out on my mountain bike when riding on the roads because it doesn't even move until I stand up to pedal, then it gets springy, and ruins my pedaling.
I would love to see more reviews and tests of this bike in the single-battery version. We can probably all agree that the main selling point is cost, so for those of us who are on a very serious budget (as am I, since I'm looking at this to replace my RadWagon that was stolen a couple of days ago), it'd be informative to know what we're getting if we choose the most cost-effective version, i.e. the single-battery version.
Am I correct in my assumption that if I buy the single-battery version, I can upgrade to a second battery later? Lectric's website isn't clear on this, as they very clearly distinguish between the 1-battery and 2-battery option on their ordering website. In other words, if I get the single-battery version, am I stuck with it?
The bike is equipped to be able to run with two batteries even if you buy it with one battery.
Since this is a cargo bike, can leaf spring suspension technology be applied for the back & hydraulic suspension in the front?
Not the back, you could potentially swap the front fork for suspension version. A suspension seat post also.
Does yours have a wicked rattle in the down tube from one of the cables banging around inside? I cannot seem to get mine to quiet down.
Hmm no, just the brake rotor hitting the pads.
@@ChrisCrossed Both of my brake discs were warped out of the box, and rubbed. Lectric sent me replacements.
You can drill a small hole in the tube with a cobalt drill bit & then apply high expansive foam insulation [a minimal amount] when that hardens it will make the cable adhere to the inner wall of the tube... then you use plumbers expoxy/ bondo & fibreglass or even a rubber grommet to seal the hole... that would be an inexpensive lightweight easy & effective solution to your problem I think... Happy Trails... too bad they don't make a mid drive gear & motor unit for this bike or I would have already bought the thing... I am now thinking instead of just ordering a convo kit & making my existing bike electric
Is the motor as loud as it sounds in the video, or is it just getting picked up extra loud in the microphone camera?
Yeah I think the audio is accurate.
It’s noisy. I suspect the planetary gears are metal versus Nylon to better withstand the 85Nm peak torque of the geared hub motor.
I don't mind the noise - especially when riding in NYC streets, they notice me coming and that's a good thing.
I'm torn between this and the Wicked...er...Wired Freedom. I have some long steep hills here that my Lectric 2.0 can't climb. Which would you suggest? I do like the cargo capacity of the Lectric Xpedition, but not if I have to push it uphill.
Buy the freedom if you want speed, buy the Xpedition if you want a hill climber and utility
@@ChrisCrossed Why wouldn't 60 volts make a better hill climber than 48? The Wicked has a lot more power?
@@jrr3787 not saying it can’t do hills, just that the reason to
Buy it would be speed
@@ChrisCrossed My Lectric 2.0 is plenty fast enough for me. I need something to do hills. Considering nothing but hill climbing capability, which bike would perform better?
The Wicked is an overall more powerful ebike and better compared to something like the Ariel Rider Kepler
The fact they didnt send the essential package that was promised for those that preordered feb 21st is such idiotic. The point of the preorder for those that pre-ordered was to use it to haul there kids , now we have a bike that cant haul the main purpose it was promoting for . Package isnt available till end of april.
The cables are longer to accommodate the fold down of the handlebars for storage/moving... they should just make a higher quality non collapsing suspension unit... its a cargo bike NOT a commuter
will you test the expedition on a golf course?
What for?
Tell Levi that i have been waiting for 3 months and still no delivery and i have received comments from others with trouble getting the delivery of ebike. I paid and they had no problem taking the money. We have contacted them on 4 occasion after being told a deliver date but nothing came on those dates. Very frumstrating waiting around for a delivery only to get disappointed. I know now that it is in detroit which is only 1 hour away and we are only 10 minutes from main highway. I could go there and get it and be back in three hours. Why no delivery. Come on Levi get your shipping act together. This pisses me off
I wonder what the bottom bracket width is.
I had the same question (wondered if I could convert this to a mid-drive). Here's what Lectric told me:
Bottom Bracket:
• Brand: KENLI
• Model: KL-08AL
• Spacing: 100mm
• Outside-Outside: 159.5mm
Hope that helps! 🙂
can you ride with just one battery?
Yes. It comes with just one battery unless you request the upgrade.
If riding on smooth rail trails, do the three inch tires absorb enough to make the bike comfortable? Thanks for your review.
It seems to be ok, I just installed the Lectric suspension seat post so hoping that helps. I haven’t been able to ride too much due to weather but will be posting more videos on it.
@@ChrisCrossed I just ordered mine and was told the suspension seat post wouldn't work with the xpedition. Which one did you order/use? Thank you.
@@angelafoltz3684 if you use a shim it will work
Very good review, but I had to turn the volume up...
Can it go on a citi bus rack?
Check the tire size and wheelbase limits of your bus rack.
wheres the distance test?
Just waiting for some warm days
This market enter Singapore
Orange colour have
wish it wasnt so loud
I guess its a tradeoff, more power equals more noise.
On the plus side, pedestrians know you're coming and they tend to be more aware. That is my experience with the Xpedition so far when riding in NYC.
@@Cain-x i agree
Don't call it a mini van! Mini vans are not cool. Don't run it for everyone
😝
This would be perfect for food deliveries, but its just too slow. Like every other bike from Lectric. TOO. SLOW.
I’ve seen RUclipsrs doing deliveries on so Would disagree. It’s fast enough but there certainly are faster options on the market.
@@ChrisCrossed yes I've seen those channels too. But they use powerful scooters. Also those are in areas like LA where everything is close together. I live in the Houston area. I would definitely need something that's faster with more range. Don't get me wrong. I like Lectric. But I have an electric skateboard that goes faster than 30 mph, so I have no use for a bike that only goes 28mph.
@@darthphaser2991 maybe you need a gas scooter or moped then. There aren't too many ebikes with this kind of price range/speed/usefulness combo that aren't above 3500. At that level you might as well get a gas vehicle. Cheaper/more economical/power/faster etc
@@akyerit yes I use a car for UberEATS. Just saying it would be cool to use an Ebike. They just don't have enough power or range. Sure I could buy an Onyx rcr or something but that's like $6000. I like that cargo bike it just isn't good enough.
@@darthphaser2991 right I guess it depends on where you live. And I was getting at, maybe find a gas powered scooter/moped for that. Could be a perfect balance for your needs. They tend to avg between 60 and a 100 mpg. And are easily customizable to fit your uber needs. Also in NYC, the professionals use the regular sized bikes with the HUGE batteries and they usually either have one charging somewhere, or carry a spare on them. And they go all day long at a pretty decent speed to boot
Wondering if anyone knows if the 3.0 step thru is lower to the ground from the saddle than the xpedition. My xpedition just came in and it's like...2 inches too tall for me. Any help would be appreciated ☺️
I don’t have a step Thru but compare the minimum seat height of the two ebikes to get an idea