How to Bend Ubolts
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- Опубликовано: 16 апр 2022
- This is how to bend U-bolts. Use a VicRoc U-bolt bender. They are not a sponsor, but you can buy them here: www.vicroc.com/en/sous-categor...
Even tho they are not a sponsor, I really enjoy using my VicRoc UB-302 U-bolt bender. We use ours every day and bend over 3000 U-bolts a year with it. This is how we use it to bend our custom made Ubolts from threaded rods.
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I would never have imagined that you could get a job shop type u-bolt machine! I'm pretty impressed with. I always imagined it was done in a far larger facility. This was pretty cool.
We love being able to make ubolts on demand. We sell around 3000-4000 ubolts a year.
Your dad spent money wisely. I always used a di-acro bender and it took muscle and time to get every one right. The tool was low cost but labor was high. Wish I had a machine like yours. Thanks for sharing.
Brings back memories of my youth! Bending u-bolts, the smell of burning Hendrickson walking beam bushings, etc. Good times!
you never forget the smell of burning rubber, I know I never will.
Don't know why this was in my recommendations but I enjoyed watching it. That's some pretty fancy footwork at around 5:37.
Glad you enjoyed it. We are now processing through about 300 Ubolts a month so we do this about 1 day every week.
Having this done in La right now for an old piece of farm equipment. Couldn’t find the u-bolts anywhere. This is awesome!
I won't ever look at a "U-bolt" the same ever again. Worked in machine shop out of high school, made take out arms for glass bottle industry, I was young guy thinking "Who comes up with these machines" good video, thanks again!
This guy is the real deal!!! It takes a well engineered mindset to do work like that.
His other name is Bender. Featured in a very popular cartoon called Futurama.
Scott love the video, made me laugh when you seemed a bit disappointed that you still find it interesting bending u-bolts. just the deep breath and almost a sigh as you said it still has me going.
The flattened center area mentioned in the comments is a good feature, this prevents crimping the axle housing and, with the waffle gripper pattern feature, reduces slippage and weld breaking and/or housing "tears".
There is a shop 20 mins from me that made U-bolts from start to finish.
I get my custom made pieces from them.
They cut to length, put through a threading machine.
If it’s a large enough diameter, it goes into a heater that heats them to red colour. Then it goes into a 1,000 ton press that squishes the center flat which allows easier bending in the same machine Scott is using.
I’ve seen them bend rods without squishing flat also.
It was pretty neat to watch.
Especially when the press goes through it’s stroke. The floor shakes. 🤣
Very interesting to see a job-shop machine like that. Thanks very much.
New to the channel finding it very interesting
Hello from Tennessee
Nice look into metal fabrication with Canadian tools!
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I remember when Wheeling Spring Service Co. in Wheeling WV got their cold u-bolt bender in the late 70's
I remember setting up a 60 ton stamping press to bend u-bolts. We produced 3600 pieces per hour, long, long ago. My father bought a screw factory and I used to work there. My brother owns it now. I married and came to Canada.
Subscribed. Had to for a fellow Canadian
just an idea cut a scrap plate and make a go / no-go gauge and save more time
great video by the way
yeah was thinking the same a plate with holes at spacing
Or make a tapered one that will check multiple sizes.
I often use my die as a sizing reference if I’m really looking for tight tolerances I’ll grab a tape or caliper otherwise I reference my die!! 🎉
Loved the video. I would have thought that once you get the 1st U-bolt set to the proper size you would just run the rest as all the straight bolts are the same spec and hardness they would all bend the same way.
couple of blocks of wood cut for go, no go might speed things along?
Very nice Die set you have there.
Good
Nice, just 1 question why don't you set up a stop to work off for the centre line?
there is so much wasted time in this setup its not even funny.
There is a stop on the left
@@haynillesen That is what I made it out to be but looks like a place to hang the G clamps lol
@@DieselRamcharger Yes, lots of room for improvement. But remember, this isn't a machine that's designed for production use. It's a job machine, most of the users are going to be making at most four of the same size in a row, and very often only two. Setting up an end stop for every four bolts doesn't save much time.
And I thought you are going to teach us how to bent a u bolt without a wonderful machine like this...😀
that is a great machine on press end also
Absolutely, I love this press, can't live without it.
Interesting. Seems theres a little "art" involved along with technical know-how.
I had to argue with my boss about buying new U bolts. He wanted to cut and weld the old ones to fit and I said "you're fucked" It only costs $250 for new ones and they come with new nuts and washers. We spent a day trying to remove the old ones before he gave up and let me order new ones from napa. I can use a measuring tape and read so it was no problem and could have saved us a day of work if he had of listened to me!
Bosses do that sometimes
My local shop would always bend them a little tight, then rap the anvil to loosen it up. He said he did it that way to relieve the stress in the bolt. Don't know if it really makes a difference but it sounds good.
I almost always bend them too tight as well then just give them a tap to get it the right size. I don't know if it makes a difference it is just what works.
The old man who owned the shop I started working in when I was teenager taught me the same thing about bending them a little tight but instead of smacking them against the anvil he had a jigs (different ones for different sizes/styles) made up to slide the u-bolt that you bent a wack with a knockhronometer to spread end back out to “spec.” Additionally at that shop the owner would buy lengths of round bar stock and we had to cut them to length, face the ends off in the lathe and thread them before bending them.
what you show It's very helpful to us. How do you iron the threads? What grade of steel do you use?
3/8", 7/16", 1/2" and 9/16" are all grade 5 rod.
5/8", 3/4", 7/8" and 1" are all Grade 8 rods.
we don't use metric Ubolt rods
we purchase the rods already cut to length and with the threads cold rolled already.
this is the company we get them from and how they are made
ruclips.net/video/VOPk1DkOHkI/видео.html
VicRoc is actually base in Victoriaville, 2 hours east of Montreal.
What would be the result if you left the adjusting wheel where it was after bending a bolt and do the next one in one hit?
You can do this. It is mostly just a habit. I find it more important on the really thick ubolts. Ease them into the correct size. A little less stress on the steel.
@@simcoespring Same stress. same bend angle. relieving the rollers only makes it easier on the machine.
@@DieselRamcharger the rate is different
@@co1urzz lmao. no.
Once you find that good setting for jaw width, why not stick with it for rest of the bolts?
Because hes clueless how the machine works.
@@DieselRamcharger that's not a fair assumption. I use this exact machine daily and sometimes to get the desired width on the first bend you need the outer rollers to be tight which causes flat spots on the sides of the bolts and makes them thinner. He also explained why he does it in the video if you watch it through.
@@lukeporter8614 he DID explain it. and i dont accept his explanation. i get it. trying to show the quality he puts into the product. i am however not convinced there is an functionable difference. just as setting the stop vs measuring to center on each bolt. time wasted. unless his supplier has irregular cut length. but i would handle that with my supplier not handicap my production to suite. i mean to each their own. Canada has the economy it does. For a reason.
Is there any advantage in massaging the u-bolt rather than doing in either 1 or 2 passes? A single pass would save you a bunch of time if you could do it in 1 go.
You could. However this size is fussy and easy to crush in the bender if you bring it in too close. So we bring it slowly into size so I have less waste.
Your machine looks almost new for its age. aours has many modifications and looks quite different to yours and is much, much slower.. not sure why. Perhaps management though it was dangerous for it to be moving so quick. Do your bolts come out with a twist in them that needs to be straightened? Depending on the bolt sometimes ours end up with about ¼ to ½ inch twist in them 🤷🏻♂️ Great vid nice to see how other people do them.
I'll have to see if I can send you through some pictures if you're interested.
Question. I have Lippert 4,400lb. Tandem axles. I have a 6 leaf spring kit. I would like to put 3” lift blocks on. How long should my U-bolts be?
We have Ubolts available for the corresponding lift blocks available on our website as well. Here is the link:
simcoespring.com/products/ubolt-kit-for-trailer-lift-blocks?variant=46257403592872
Just select which Lift block you are installing, which axle diameter you have and which Ubolt diameter you wish to use. Everything there is auto-calculated to fit your suspension no matter which spring you have.
Once you get the roller arms set, can it be done in one shot/stroke?
it can. First time doing a massive production run. Usually do 4 or 8 at a time.
@@simcoespring 👍Thanks!
I massage my rod up and down until it's perfectly shaped as well 🤣
I noticed you bend it in several steps, Can't the press do it in one go?
Soy de Perú y trabajo haciendo esos pernos en U en cuadrado y semi curva se hacer todo el proceso desde la materia prima y la máquina que usamos para doblar es de lejos mucho mejor que la máquina q usan en el vídeo 😀
Maybe make a gauge block for your common die sizes and just hang it with the die on you rack?
we just stared doing this yesterday and love it. Great suggestion.
Where would I be able to buy the die set from? (to make the u-bolts) thanks
Vicroc in Montreal makes the bender and the dies
Thank you @@simcoespring
Thats interesting, its that easy to make U bolts. It always been a struggle to get U bolts out here on the coast of BC. Then it costs an arm and a leg. When I needed U bolts for my F350 Superduty I was told dealer only item.
the dealerships can charge and arm and a leg. We recently got a quote from the dealership for a set of 4 ubolts and they wanted $250. which we think is very expensive. same set of 4 here was only $55 plus tax.
Maybe I should start selling them on my website.
@@simcoespring I can't remember the exact price as it was couple years ago. The 4 u bolts were 300 plus.
that is way too much. I wish there was a selector program that would let me easily translate my 10,000 different shapes and sizes into an easy to select from website.
Pick your shape, pick your rod, pick your length. I already ship to all of north America. Something to think about. Sounds like an epic project.
@@simcoespring some webstore front ends let you select multiple parameters, so you could pick both Profile and Diameter, and have a line-draw chart in the item-gallery for the different profiles
It looks like an older “Bender” from Futurama. 😀
Craftsmanship with pride...👍
do you ever see any velvet ride
cool
Rad🤙
Dose that machine do something else seams very large relatively simple and low power operation
Oh yes. The main body is my 100 ton press and the ubolt bender is attached to the back of it as an option when you purchase the unit.
@@simcoespring That's a relief. I was thinking what a huge outlay such a machine would be JUST to d U bolts.
Any idea on how much their ubolt bender cost?
Any prices I have would be from 2019. Not very accurate anymore
@@simcoespring I wish they listed pricing. Can’t find anything online
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Calidad de empresa , en que estado están ubicados?
Nosotros somos de ontario canada
Que bien, me puedes ayudar con algún contacto para comprar camiones para Yonkers, yo vendo usado en Honduras.
👍Good stuff. (SUBd)
honestly no idea why you open the jaws after each bend. its a roller. set it to size and get with it.
Aghhh. I thought this was a video about bending u-bolts straight! /sarc
You really need to get a Rodriguez bender bot. Works for beer. /sarc {Futurama}
Why measure it constantly drill a piece of plate as a template far easier
Great show - but you're looking at a huge upswing in productivity with your first robot.
Yeah, I’d say fascinating too. Lucky your dad taught you, probably many lessons.
Surely a go no go piece of steel with 2 holes would be much faster and removes any chance of a mistake.
we can bend up 10,000 different sizes and we usually bend 2, 4 or 8 at a time so mostly not worth making up a plate for each job. however in group batches like this, not a bad idea.
@@simcoespring I may well be wrong but you only bend as many sizes as the dies and rollers do. The variety and quantity are definitely good reasons though. 👍 What about an adjustable gauge?
Canadian made rod and a Canadian made machine doing the work manned by a Canadian in Canada...sorry the proud Canuck in me is comin out!
Alat nya sudah maju
I'm surprised there isn't a U bolt shortage because of covid.
There is.
@@simcoespring well of u don't have covid then where's the shortage 🤷🏼♂️
I would get a chair or a stool to sit on so not to bend your back to much.
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Why not make one complete bend, non stop? It should end up the same..
Don't you mean how to bend bolts into U-bolts
No wonder they cost TOO MUCH
Put them in a nice package and charge $25 for it.
There needs to be a better way to do this. So much waste in each step.