A Day of London Street Photography with the Fujifilm X-T5 and Lumix S5
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2024
- Josh and Shane visit Columbia Road Flower Market in London and try out some new gear.
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Just stumbled upon this channel this morning, what a hidden gem.
Ahah excellent thank you
Always enjoy your videos. Thsnks for sharing.🎉
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The high res mode for film scanning has been on my mind. It's more than just megapixels imo. The benefit is the cancellation of any sort of extrapolation done during regular debayering so it renders sharper details and colours with more fidelity. Much like a traditional CCD sensor or film scanner that uses multiple passes to build each RGB layer.
That’s really interesting. I had no idea about any of that. I wonder if that makes a difference using something like Negative Lab Pro. Might have to test it out :)
I hate when lenses shift focus too easily! Good to see you guys out and about again.
My TTartisan 25mm F2 has the same issue. But to be honest when shooting street I use hyperfocal distance and F8 most of the time. Works fine for me. But I really enjoy the images. They look 3D to me, not talking about bokeh. Even my 23mm F2 Fuji lens is collecting dust since I use this lens. For 70 EUR, it's insane... 😅
Yes for that price you really can’t go wrong - this voigtlander is way too pricey though
I own the TTArtisan 25f2 too and I’m really happy with it on my xpro3. I also use it mostly at hyperfocal on f/8 and perhaps don’t get so disappointed with the flaws: wide open is not corner sharp and worse, it’s not homogeneous on the 4 corners (top left is worse). It’s not a deal breaker for the price and I consider it mostly a funny lens for street photography and I need the sharpness mostly on the center and kinda like the pronounced vignette and the corner blur; I’m not disappointed and it’s more an artistic lens then something for serious work. I also don’t imagine myself trying to focus trough the marks with lens wide open, even at f/2 should be quite a shallow depth of field and hard to focus without at the viewfinder with focus peaking. I’m hopping to get the 18 and 27mm Voigtlanders but when I upgrade for a 40mp sensor where I intend to use glass that can take real advantage of such sensor. Meanwhile TTArtisan is a great lens for the job, I like it so much that I got the 17mm f/1.4 too.
Really enjoyed this type of video with you two, walking and talking. Just ordered the latest issue. Always look forward to it coming out. Shane, what is that backpack you were wearing?
Thanks for ordering a copy of the mag! It’s good craic making these videos so plenty more of them to come. (The backpack is a Manfroto ‘street’. )
The XF27 f/2.8 is a nice little lens. I’ve been using the OG version for years and I’ve got no complaints, it renders beautifully wide open but at f/4-f/8 it really shines. Great street lens.
I used that for a bit but had issues with the focus - maybe it’s better on the xt5 .. might give it another try
I have the 28mm Thypoch Simera on order and can’t wait to get it. The difficulty in focusing the Voigtlander Ultron in street photography was my main reason for choosing the Thypoch.
It will (hopefully) be perfect for me as I love the 28mm focal length, but it also becomes a useful 42mm on an APSC camera. A double whammy. 😊
Yes I did think the same … just a bit put off by the price …
Good stuff!
Thank you!!
Got the voitgtlander - my first manual lens and the image quality is fantastic - can even get really nice sunstars at F4 - but the focusing is really difficult to nail and I thought that was just because it's my first manual lens and they're all like this - good to know that isn't the case!
I thought about the Voigtlander for my Fuji XE2s to replace my Fujinon 27mm f2.8, basically to get a slightly faster lens. Won't bother now. Thanks for the heads-up!! Ultimately though the Fuji 23mm f2 is my go-to focal length for the majority of my street and travel shooting on my X-Pro 2.
Yeah that 23mm is the best all rounder IMO! Glad I was of some use!
Try TTartisan 25mm F2, it's an enjoyable lens to use and a bit brighter than XF27mm
@@houghwhite411 Thanks. I know it's only £70 but as I already have two lenses around that focal length - the Fuji 23mm f2 and the 27mm f2.8 - I'm not really seeing the benefit of having a 25mm as well.
Excellent and enjoyable video, seeing you both out and about. Bit short tho. Still, mustn't grumble.
Ahah thanks Geoff, we cut quite a bit out , will make the next one longer
I think the lenses get so big because reviews and articles are often just focussed on optical performance and pixel peeping to predecessors. I mean yes, obviously you can correct more and improve IQ the bigger you make it but who wants to carry around that stuff. But as long as people spend 80% of a review talking about IQ, aberrations, bokeh etc and one sentence about the size lens manufacturers just keep going bigger to have something to show in the optical improvements department.
Yes that probably it - the IQ on this lens is super nice. But its not worth the focus issue for me.
@@rebours if the adjustments are microscopic you can’t do them without looking and bumping it completely throws off the focus
All of the voigtlander X-mount lens have this focus ring problem, I bought the new 18mm F2.8, have the same issue. I think the wider focal length is easier to work with this problem, still having good time with this lens.
Yes it's a shame - otherwise its a really fun lens
How is the 18mm 2.8? I’m a 28mm glutton! 😂
@@TheVFXbyArt It's same form factor as the 27mm F2 in the video, I like the small size, but shooting at night sometimes I wish it's a F2 lens. 28mm focal length makes zone focus much easier even with the focus ring issue, at F5.6 I can confidently zone focus. I like this lens very much, looks good on my X-Pro3, but I hope one day voigtlander will make a version 2 with F2 and fix the focus ring problem.
I would say that Voigtlander could be used for zone focusing but it misses out on 2m and 3m markings as well as being a tiny focus throw. I definitely prefer FF and FF manual lenses with better markings. Saying that my 40mm f1.2 E has a pretty short focus throw between 2m and ∞. I don't really do focus by feel as I'm not really a street photography 'hunter' but I do zone focus quite a bit and just make sure I capture subjects within the focus zone. Focus by feel is one area where Leica lenses really excel and it's no wonder they are popular for street photography, even at the prices they sell for.
Yes that’s exactly it - I was hoping for a Leica - like focussing experience but it’s not the same 😅
Great seeing Samuel mentioned in your videos. I'd love to see a crossover 😀
haha I think we did a live stream back in 2020 but deffo up for some form of crossover
bloody hell here is me going wiv my fujifilm and dude brings round a huge lumix.
I was soooo tempted by that Ultron but I (also watched every review) was put off by the lack of focus throw around the 2m mark and then my daughter returned the TT Artisan 23mm f1.4 (with the silver & black focus ring) that I bought her (apparently my grandson moves too quickly for MF) and so I tried that lens out.
I was taken aback at how good the images are and there are markings for 1m, 2m and 5m.
So now I just keep it at 2m and f5.6 and it lives on my X-Pro 3 🤷
Oh i had no idea about that TT artisans option … I might have to give that a try, thank you Colin
@@frame-lines it’s like verrrrrrry ‘affordable’!
Did you like the 50mm in the end Shane? Sigma do a way smaller f2 lens which is amazing for l mount as well
The lumix 50 has great optics but I’d really like something smaller for that rush hour crush on the underground 😅 Is the sigma much smaller? I’ve been looking at the sigma 45 but I’ve heard the optics are rubbish
@@frame-lines it shaves off a few centimetres in length and width but it is a little heavier. Much better build quality and aperture ring is a plus for me. Not really cheap though. I've not tried the 45
Over the decades, I have tried 21, 24, 28, 35, 40, 45, 50, and 55mm lenses for street photography. All worked well.
For me, the 35mm focal length on a full-frame camera is perfect. The 40mm focal length is my second favorite.
Some of my favorites are:
The 35mm f/1.4 Zeiss on Leica M6 and M10 rangefinders.
The 35mm f/1.4 Nikkor on a Nikon F2 SLR.
The 20mm f/1.7 Panasonic on a micro 4/3 digital.
The 23mm f/2 Fujinon on a Fuji X-Pro2 APS-C digital mirrorless.
On Josh's woes with the Voigtländer 27mm, I tried both versions of the autofocus Fuji 27mm but couldn't get on with either. The aperture ring on the new one definitely improves the shooting experience, but ultimately I found the noisy back-and-forth focus motor they share too irritating to use. It's a pity because they produce some great results, but I just always found myself reaching for another lens.
Ah yes the original one is particularly noisy right! I thought they’d fixed it with the new one
@@frame-lines the new one's fine, been using it for a while
@@frame-lines Depends what you mean by fixed. The optics are identical to the first version and the focus motor seemed very similar if not the same. In any case it's not nearly as good as the 23 or 35mm f2s, and for me the trade-off vs size wasn't worth it.
@@j2thebee I'm just saying that for me it didn't feel appreciably different from the original, and the old-style Fuji focus motors now really irritate me. It's otherwise a great lens, so glad to hear you're enjoying it!
@@AdrianJoyce ah ok fair enough, Ive not shot with the new style focus motors so its all I know, i'm sure theres scope for improvement, but its definitely a nice size
Maybe you could check the new 18mm f2.8 from voigtlander, is slightly even smaller :P
Does it have the same issue though ? 😅😭
@@frame-lines from the photos it seems to have also a small focus distance markings…. Still maybe worth a try ?
@@frame-lines yes it has... 1-2mm focus throw between 2 meters and infinity. Very strange design and useless for zone focusing. Also strange since the Ultron series for M mount has a much larger throw. Fantastic lenses btw...
See you next time!
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Josh, I think you need give that lens a bit more time. In my opinion it is a really good lens if you want manual.
I’ve had it a month - I really wanted it to work but yeah not for me - optically it’s so good
My TTArtisan 23mm lens on Fujifilm is like that. Looks like a normal focus range but the actual working range you'd use on the street is less than the space between two marks. Everything happens there, which means bumped/missed focus shots abound. Disappointing.
Ah good to know, I will avoid that one too 😅
The focus tab on the Ultron is horrific. You have to pinch it with two fingers or press it with one. So awkward to use. Idk why they didn't go with a normal focus tab-
Haha yeah so true - not sure why I didn’t mention that
Josh, buy the Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron M and adapt it to the X-T5. Get a close focus adapter, and you can thank me later.
I did think about that. It’s just quite expensive
@@frame-lines c'mon man. You're a RUclipsr you can afford it. 🤣🤣🤣
Is it me or the saturation in the video quite strong?
It’s just you 👀
1:26 Now add the mirrorbox to the left one. ;-)
Fair point but how about the Canon RF 50? It’s the same size as the ef version.
That would have been a much better example, yes. There are reasons why lenses get bigger like minimal focus breathing, specific focusing motors, internal focusing and so on. I fully agree with you that in many cases lenses have gotten way too big for no good reason and some of them are lacking the most basic features even compared to DSLR lenses. (Looking at you, Leica Summilux SL 50mm f/1.4.) It was just not the right choice of lens to make that comparison, I think. @@frame-lines
Bummer about that voigtlander! I was really interested in that lens... but I definitely can't deal with a doofy focus throw.
I use the 27mm all the time and I got used to it.
RUclipsrs are constantly buying and selling, chasing that dopamine hit….😂
@@TheVFXbyArt I don't care about all that. I need expanded focus throw in specifically that range and I'm glad he mentioned the issue. The idiots you're referencing don't actually shoot so they have no idea it's even an issue. They're doing bokeh flower photos in their backyard and thus it's actually a feature for them 🥴. Meanwhile these guys saved me a bother.
Ahaha thank you for that - yeah Ive had this lens about a month and genuinely bought it with the intention of keeping it for quite a while , given the high price point. But the focus throw is just too annoying 🙃
I visited NYC in 2019 and attended the Brooklyn Museum to attend the Gary Winogrand color exhibition. I had a docent lead tour with one other. I didn’t know he took color images. Apparently, sometimes he’d go out with two Leicas. One would have color film. Sometimes he would take essentially the same image with the B&W & color film.
I loved his images of Coney Island with the beach crowded. The exhibit was in a large dark area. There were several stations where several images were projected. I rushed to the museum store to purchase the exhibit book. Imagine my surprise and disappointment when there wasn’t a book for sale. The new color book, which I haven’t purchased yet, must be the book I wanted. I am so excited. Ordering the magazine this afternoon. I know it isn’t your fault. It is relatively expensive posting the magazine across the pond.
Speaking of excited, five more days for the X100VI announcement!
Sorry about the 27mm pancake lens not working out. Other than not being able to zone focus it sounds like a nice lens. I just purchased the Fuji 27mm Mi. Lens. It is small and lightweight. It is, I suppose, a Goldilocks focal length.
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to hdr pics from Josh
Is that a toast ? 🥂
@@frame-lines sorry i meant to much HDR does not look nice
Panasonic really needs to release a full frame GX series camera to go along with the S5/S1 cameras. That with the Sigma I-series would be a treat.
Yes! An SX5 with the S5II sensor and an SX1 with the 61MP sensor would be amazing!
Ha yep agreed that would be awesome
Menus/Options?… ugh… no thanks. The modern camera has become a nightmare of choice. Way too many features that only serve to get in the way of image making. Back in the days I used film, I was most happy using my Hasselblad. Hand held meter, set the camera aperture…. that is all. Such a nice experience. These days it’s the Leica M11P. Pretty high tech compared to the Blad. About as much tech as I’ll ever need though.
Panasonic have all the right menu options, and a very good UI though. It makes a difference, especially for a camera that I want to use as a hybrid workhorse. (Shane)
@@frame-lines i recently acquired a Nikon Z6II, for the sole purpose of shooting macro. I have one (macro) lens. That is all. I had to search the internet to work out how to shoot in manual and adjust ISO. Bear in mind… I’ve had them all. I was an early digital adopter with the Canon D30, D60, onto 1DS1/2, Leica M8/M9 and now M11P. I want 2 adjustments on the Nikon… ISO. Aperture. Nothing else. and I couldn’t work out how to change them. The menu is mad, I reckon the Space Shuttle would be less complex!!!
Haven’t seen the Panasonic.
That’s one of the benefits of the M11P. Old school with a choice set of modern upgrades. All contained in a super user friendly menu.
weird focus throws and in-your-face-coughers are 0/10 👎🚫⛔
Haha exactly