Thanks. I had the pleasure of remembering these vehicles and they bring back fun memoirs. I worked for Olds and my parents drove them. I loved taken the Hurst Olds. My father owned a f85, and my mother owned the Delta 88 plus a few Cutlass 2 and 4 doors. My favorite was the early Tornado. Great car on dates on Miami Beach.
@@American.legendsThese cars are only worth a lot of money to the baby-boomer generation. The kids today (when grown up) will have no interest in a car with an enormous gas-guzzling V8, crappy suspension, wayward steering & drum brakes. In 30-40 years these cars will be worthless.
Never had a 60s Olds but snagged a 66 425 out of a 66 Olds 98 for.....$300, THM 400 included for $300 back in 1986. Put it in a 77 Olds 442. Before that I used 350 Olds engines. That 425 was a gem with a steel crank, those awesome Bcasting heads and 10.5 compression. With a 280 comp cam, 11" converter and a 3.55 gear, 12.40 in the quarter wasnt bad for a big , heavy car
I don't know why they keep leaving out the 65,66,67,68 year models? Those were really nice cars too? And i appreciate the one's that you are showing. It's just strange why everyone leaves out those popular styles and year models
My preference is a 68 Ninety Eight 4 door hardtop. That’s the first year for the 455. I just like the idea of feeling like a king in a big comfy cruiser!
Wasn't the 69 Hurst 442 also available as a 4-speed? When l was 11 l read all the magazines and lived in an area flush with muscle cars. One of the rich kid had this exact car with the 4-speed shifter embossed with the Hurst logo along with the T handle. I remember it was a big deal when the kid who owned it bragged nothing in the area could beat him. A friend of my family had a 67 Nova with that 327 with (l could be off a little) 360 hp 4-speed offered to race him. Two other kids and l rode our bikes to the secluded road to watch. At that age l just assumed the bigger engine would win. Nova at that 442 alive! They raced 3 times and the closest run was about a 3 car gap. That Nova just exploded off the line each run. It was about the coolest thing that a car obsessed kid could see!
Nope, automatic only for the Hurst Olds. There was one 4 speed in 1968 but it was the first one built, basically the prototype. It was owned by one of the GM brass, either Doc Watson or ??? The car you remember was likely a 442. The 442 and the Hurst Olds were 2 different models. Just like the Cutlass S and Cutlass Supreme were different models.
Why do you guys refer to metric engine sizes on cars that in their period used cubic inch instead? You would have to convert from the listed numbers to do this.
How about The 1966 Toranado? This was possibly the most unique and distictive car on the markey in 1966, and the first car with a V8 automatic transmission that was front wheel drive. How about the 1958 88? possibly the Oldsmobile with the most chrome.
5 that are worth nothing? One would have to be my "badge engineered" first-gen 83 Cutlass Ciera Sedan. Wimpier front brakes than the station wagon, rear shoes that didn't adjust like they were supposed to, electric window wiring troubles in the driver's door jamb, wimpy power steering rack and pinion, 2.5-liter engine had a "throbby idle" due to no balancer, torque converter clutch solenoid that died, and let's not forget steel bolts that corroded and broke off inside the aluminum thermostat housing.
Why are you telling me engine sizes in terms of Coke bottle sizes or euro-alien sizes. I apologize if you are British, but we use CUBIC INCH DISPLACEMENT here in the US.
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 nice easy way. But man! Cubic inches sounds so much tougher. You'll always here me say 429 COBRA JET. not 5 liter. Sounds so weak and wet spaghetti.
@@styldsteel1 Oh I agree 100 % , always loved the cars with a 1.6 liter badge on the back in big bold letters, like it was something to be proud of . But then , I'm old enough to remember when guys would remove the SS and engine emblems off of their cars in order to get a race on a Friday or Saturday night .
Real shame we never saw great cars like these here in Australia. There were some really pretty cars in this collection. Give me any of these cars any day over the overpriced, fat, gadget filled crap we see today. Great video thanks for sharing.
Interesting. With the F-85, that V8 lived a long life in England, powering various Rover, Land Rover, and Range Rover models with displacements up to 4.2 litres. It is the same block, so an invisible upgrade is very easy to accomplish.
Really liked the 68 442, I had a 67 convertible and it was my first car. Not bad for a first car, huh? I almost bought a 76 W30 with T tops and swivel buckets. But even though it had the 455, she had like 160 hp and it was almost impossible to get more. They were already going after that with State inspections. They had to remain factory stock so I didn't buy it. But the 68? SHE IS A BEAUTY and that 400 went like a bat out of hell. The only problem was, the cars were pieces of total junk and constantly broke down. Things broke on my 442 you hadn't even heard of. I had a chance to buy an exact duplicate a few years ago and didn't. Not a chance, I wouldn't even test drive it for fear it would break down in the middle of it. Yes, they were that bad and took constant work to keep them running. I used to go through a set of spark plugs every week. A starter every 3 months. All muscle cars were junk. People don't tell you about that. You couldn't pay me to take that old iron today. I'll take my 18 supercharged Dodge Charger with 11 airbags, 602hp and it gets 41mpg on the thruway. LOL
The 1970 442 W30 is a great classic, fast even by today's standards. I once owned a 2001 Olds Alero GL2. I wonder how those cars are priced. It was the last model Oldsmobile ever produced.
Too bad that fender skirts are the thing of the past. From 1936 Lincoln Zepher V-8 or V-12 engine to 1952 Chevrolet Styleline DeLuxe and Pontiac Chieftain DeLuxe 8, fender skirts does partially hide the rear wheels for more streamlined look, which is very popular back in those day.
Love this conjecture, and mostly fact free accounting of a few otherwise fantastic cars. Best part is the actual thumbnail for the video with an obviously Photoshop, 1970 442 with sides skirts that never existed and a Photoshop stripe! Lame! Wish there was a qualification for people making these type of things, since it is largely misinformation.
I have a friend that has 2 69 hurst olds for a while he had three and one of the best stories he ever told me was when his wife was having their daughter and he was at the Oldsmobile dealer trading is 68 hurst olds for a brand new, 69
$20,000 is nothing?? $2,000 is nothing. $20,000 is a pile of money for an old beat up rustbucket that doesn't even run. And that's about what you would find for $20,000. It wouldn't be worth repairing.
December 7, 1941. A date which will live in infamy. Congress approved the declaration of war the next day. You are correct, WW2 started in 1939. Just not for the us.
@CarlosBauzo4890 they mean pre-US involvement after the bombing of Pearl Harbor on Dec 7th 1941 not its start on Sept 1st 1939 and most of the models mentioned came after WW2 such as 98 debuted for 1946 model year 88 debuted for 49 model year Cutlass debuted for 61 model year etc. at one point in the mid 1970s 3 of my grandparents owned Oldsmobile cars granted in those days the cars weighed more than modern cars in the same class, for example a Cutlass S Sports Coupe weighed 3,985 LBs while a base Toyota Corolla from this year weighs 3,150 LBs or 835 LBs less a 6.1 L engine is 372 Cubic inches heavier cars need more power to get them moving than midsize or compact/subcompacts do Hence why big brawny V8s used to be the order of the day in American cars I.E. Cadillac's famed 500 Cubic in or 8.2L V8 which started with 400 HP in 1970 and by 1976 was at 190 hp which is less than a 4 cylinder Toyota Camry has in modern day by 9.5%
I agree with the liter part, but j2 is music to the ears of classic car lovers, that tells you that it is the high performance version with three 2 barrel carbs
Well how did the narrator if this convert every one of those cubic inch displacements to litres? I agree, he shouldn't have... And he even knows how much horsepower! ---
Sowhich 5 are the ones that are worth nothing? I assume all from the mid 80s- mid 90s Cutlass Ciera, Firenza, Calais, Achieva and Silhouette????? I owned 3 of them and loved them but they're definitely not collectables
That's right,They do comand Six figures All Day long if they are original!!!!!No joke , beautiful and comfortable and can back up its out standing looks!!!!!!! Try and find an original one from the original owner who chose the perfect options like (had several 4 speed,s more fun to drive up and down hill,s , mountain road,s BUT , Ordered with the Automatic dual gate shifter and just a rear defroster ,a must with cool mornings and hood lock 342,s ni shroud, didn't come with it , would it run much cooler,yes but it didn't come with it.Neither did my 4 speed,s wich would over heat in traffic some time,s but my Auto with just power steering , brakes,hood lock , night watch, speed alert W-27 rear just all beautiful big block mint and with ty original teal high heat blueish paint and clutch fan with mint red fender well,s what is more beautiful than that i ask !! Oai not ram air .OAInduction! again Air scoops up and out where they belong!!!!! And the body lines OMG you know peace
I notice that folks don't say their numbers right anymore. Like in this video he says 348 hp instead of three-hundred and forty-eight hp. Why? I mean we were all taught in school how to say are numbers, RIGHT! Is this the continued dumning down of the American public. Old man rant.
Oldsmobiles sucked...all through the years. They were recognized among rich neighbors as "poor man's Cadillacs". They were big, ugly, and without any redeeming social graces. The W-30 was a joke attempt at getting "cool" kids to spend their money on a supposedly hopped-up geriatric car. I don't see very many shows on TV showing how they restore old Oldsmobiles. THERE; I said it! Come on, haters! Now, I apologize to all you Olds lovers. Everybody has their thing. Just ask my stupid wife.
I drove a ‘65 F-85, ‘67 Cutlass, ‘71 Cutlass, and a ‘72 Cutlass. Loved them all.
Those Olds had nice raw power. They sound good too. I su
I sure miss m
y 72 Olds. Nice car.
Mr. B. Here ! 👀😎👍. Oldsmobiles were stylish & class . Olds Ruled !
Thanks. I had the pleasure of remembering these vehicles and they bring back fun memoirs. I worked for Olds and my parents drove them. I loved taken the Hurst Olds. My father owned a f85, and my mother owned the Delta 88 plus a few Cutlass 2 and 4 doors. My favorite was the early Tornado. Great car on dates on Miami Beach.
Thanks for sharing!
@@American.legendsThese cars are only worth a lot of money to the baby-boomer generation. The kids today (when grown up) will have no interest in a car with an enormous gas-guzzling V8, crappy suspension, wayward steering & drum brakes. In 30-40 years these cars will be worthless.
Show us the Cutlass with the fender skirts. Dare ya 😮
Clickbait
Love my 3 Oldsmobiles.
I miss my 71 Cutlass Supreme. Nine years old, rust was taking over the rear trunk pan and lid.
Never had a 60s Olds but snagged a 66 425 out of a 66 Olds 98 for.....$300, THM 400 included for $300 back in 1986. Put it in a 77 Olds 442. Before that I used 350 Olds engines. That 425 was a gem with a steel crank, those awesome Bcasting heads and 10.5 compression. With a 280 comp cam, 11" converter and a 3.55 gear, 12.40 in the quarter wasnt bad for a big , heavy car
Don't forget the '68 RamRod and subsequent W 31's.
I still have my 1971 Vista Cruiser, it’s a keeper.
That '70s Show....even tho it was a '69
@@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman love your handle
@@steveb7310 Haha thanks...its the name of my "member" 😁
I don't know why they keep leaving out the 65,66,67,68 year models? Those were really nice cars too? And i appreciate the one's that you are showing. It's just strange why everyone leaves out those popular styles and year models
My preference is a 68 Ninety Eight 4 door hardtop. That’s the first year for the 455. I just like the idea of feeling like a king in a big comfy cruiser!
Just like The Titanic.
Please dont refer these engines in Liters, they were measured in Cubic Inches
Welcome to the 21st century where people living in the real world have been using it no later than 1975.
Yay, what are we Canadians?.. 'ea?
My 76 Cutlass was a good car with a rocket 350 engine. Had 307,000 miles on it when i sold it.
Wasn't the 69 Hurst 442 also available as a 4-speed? When l was 11 l read all the magazines and lived in an area flush with muscle cars. One of the rich kid had this exact car with the 4-speed shifter embossed with the Hurst logo along with the T handle. I remember it was a big deal when the kid who owned it bragged nothing in the area could beat him. A friend of my family had a 67 Nova with that 327 with (l could be off a little) 360 hp 4-speed offered to race him. Two other kids and l rode our bikes to the secluded road to watch. At that age l just assumed the bigger engine would win. Nova at that 442 alive! They raced 3 times and the closest run was about a 3 car gap. That Nova just exploded off the line each run. It was about the coolest thing that a car obsessed kid could see!
Nope, automatic only for the Hurst Olds. There was one 4 speed in 1968 but it was the first one built, basically the prototype. It was owned by one of the GM brass, either Doc Watson or ??? The car you remember was likely a 442. The 442 and the Hurst Olds were 2 different models. Just like the Cutlass S and Cutlass Supreme were different models.
Why do you guys refer to metric engine sizes on cars that in their period used cubic inch instead? You would have to convert from the listed numbers to do this.
It’s really annoying when people can’t figure out a simple decimal based unit of measurement. They just must be stupid.
Don't Tax your brain , nice Pete . You are right ! Decreasing size of units used does allow you to claim a larger number , when measuring .
I had a 1964 olds dym 88 I bought it in 1968 for 4000 with 32000 miles great car❤😂
I had a 1967 F-85 2 door, that was very fast. 330 cu in with 320 hp. How much would it be worth today? wish I still had it...
Yes I like those cars!
How about The 1966 Toranado? This was possibly the most unique and distictive car on the markey in 1966, and the first car with a V8 automatic transmission that was front wheel drive.
How about the 1958 88? possibly the Oldsmobile with the most chrome.
Yessir. Another- my brother had a 1960 Super 88 2 dr hardtop w/394 engine. Very cool car.
5 that are worth nothing? One would have to be my "badge engineered" first-gen 83 Cutlass Ciera Sedan. Wimpier front brakes than the station wagon, rear shoes that didn't adjust like they were supposed to, electric window wiring troubles in the driver's door jamb, wimpy power steering rack and pinion, 2.5-liter engine had a "throbby idle" due to no balancer, torque converter clutch solenoid that died, and let's not forget steel bolts that corroded and broke off inside the aluminum thermostat housing.
My uncle had one of those Cutlass Cieras with a diesel!
Why are you telling me engine sizes in terms of Coke bottle sizes or euro-alien sizes. I apologize if you are British, but we use CUBIC INCH DISPLACEMENT here in the US.
Multiply their stupid liters by 61 to get the cubic inch numbers .
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 nice easy way. But man! Cubic inches sounds so much tougher. You'll always here me say 429 COBRA JET. not 5 liter. Sounds so weak and wet spaghetti.
@@styldsteel1 Oh I agree 100 % , always loved the cars with a 1.6 liter badge on the back in big bold letters, like it was something to be proud of . But then , I'm old enough to remember when guys would remove the SS and engine emblems off of their cars in order to get a race on a Friday or Saturday night .
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 lol!! Right! Lol. I hear ya
Fords were marketed as 7 litres. GTOs had 6.4 litre badging.
Real shame we never saw great cars like these here in Australia. There were some really pretty cars in this collection. Give me any of these cars any day over the overpriced, fat, gadget filled crap we see today. Great video thanks for sharing.
Interesting. With the F-85, that V8 lived a long life in England, powering various Rover, Land Rover, and Range Rover models with displacements up to 4.2 litres. It is the same block, so an invisible upgrade is very easy to accomplish.
That was a BUICK engine, dumb$$@
I still have my white 98 from 1981.
Really liked the 68 442, I had a 67 convertible and it was my first car. Not bad for a first car, huh? I almost bought a 76 W30 with T tops and swivel buckets. But even though it had the 455, she had like 160 hp and it was almost impossible to get more. They were already going after that with State inspections. They had to remain factory stock so I didn't buy it. But the 68? SHE IS A BEAUTY and that 400 went like a bat out of hell. The only problem was, the cars were pieces of total junk and constantly broke down. Things broke on my 442 you hadn't even heard of. I had a chance to buy an exact duplicate a few years ago and didn't. Not a chance, I wouldn't even test drive it for fear it would break down in the middle of it. Yes, they were that bad and took constant work to keep them running. I used to go through a set of spark plugs every week. A starter every 3 months. All muscle cars were junk. People don't tell you about that. You couldn't pay me to take that old iron today. I'll take my 18 supercharged Dodge Charger with 11 airbags, 602hp and it gets 41mpg on the thruway. LOL
Ignore 'Class' , those days are gone .
You were obviously doing something wrong, lying, or just had beat down bad examples.
@@mickangio16You're obviously very young.
The 1970 442 W30 is a great classic, fast even by today's standards. I once owned a 2001 Olds Alero GL2. I wonder how those cars are priced. It was the last model Oldsmobile ever produced.
Disappointed that the Jetfire wasn't mentioned.
My bad, it was the Jetstar.
Too bad that fender skirts are the thing of the past. From 1936 Lincoln Zepher V-8 or V-12 engine to 1952 Chevrolet Styleline DeLuxe and Pontiac Chieftain DeLuxe 8, fender skirts does partially hide the rear wheels for more streamlined look, which is very popular back in those day.
Not all of the HP reductions were due to smog regulations. The manufacturers switched from brake to net HP in 1972.
My dad bought a new 1962 Tempest LeMans. A virtual body double of the F-85 with half the cylinders.
I used to have a '66 Dynamic 88 coupe.
Toronados are that Cadillac Eldorado twist. Like the "98"s compared to the Coupe Devilles. .
I have a 1982 Oldsmobile Omega. Funky but nifty to drive around
Details aren’t important. Just tell everyone it was just some GM H$itbox.
Thanks foe the Drive down memory lane.
"and the hidden headlights were gone" well of course, they're hidden!
that would depend on who you are selling it to
I never realized how much the 76’ Olds and an Eldorado look identical
vista cruisers are worth quite a bit. i restored a 71 single owner back in 94 to 99.
😂 I kind of want to get a front drive Toronado..
Love this conjecture, and mostly fact free accounting of a few otherwise fantastic cars. Best part is the actual thumbnail for the video with an obviously Photoshop, 1970 442 with sides skirts that never existed and a Photoshop stripe! Lame! Wish there was a qualification for people making these type of things, since it is largely misinformation.
I have a friend that has 2 69 hurst olds for a while he had three and one of the best stories he ever told me was when his wife was having their daughter and he was at the Oldsmobile dealer trading is 68 hurst olds for a brand new, 69
The segment on the 1969 Hurst Olds also showed a 1972 Hurst Olds. C'mon, man. Pick a year.
I would like to own a 1970 Cutlass SX hardtop. Basically an upscale 442.
Even the GTO with the HIS AND HERS SHIFTER OLDS WERE SMOTHE CARS . To many headaches you have to have money to restore a car . More then someone has .
I wish you would have used the cubic inches of the motors instead of liters.
i will include cubic inches from now on to all of my future videos, thanks for watching 👍
I’d drive all of these Oldsmobile. Motors are in cubic inches not Liters
I think you are wrong. I had a 72 Olds. It was the most reliable car I ever owned. And it look good too.😅
$20,000 is nothing?? $2,000 is nothing. $20,000 is a pile of money for an old beat up rustbucket that doesn't even run. And that's about what you would find for $20,000. It wouldn't be worth repairing.
47 is post war, though Olds was definitely the best car brand.
Designed 41 .
Might want to check your facts 1947 Olds 88 is a post-war model
OK, so $20,000 is nothing.
It's a stupid list
1941 is pre World War 2? I could swear WW2 started in 1939
December 7, 1941. A date which will live in infamy.
Congress approved the declaration of war the next day.
You are correct, WW2 started in 1939. Just not for the us.
@CarlosBauzo4890 they mean pre-US involvement after the bombing of Pearl Harbor on Dec 7th 1941 not its start on Sept 1st 1939 and most of the models mentioned came after WW2 such as 98 debuted for 1946 model year 88 debuted for 49 model year Cutlass debuted for 61 model year etc. at one point in the mid 1970s 3 of my grandparents owned Oldsmobile cars granted in those days the cars weighed more than modern cars in the same class, for example a Cutlass S Sports Coupe weighed 3,985 LBs while a base Toyota Corolla from this year weighs 3,150 LBs or 835 LBs less a 6.1 L engine is 372 Cubic inches heavier cars need more power to get them moving than midsize or compact/subcompacts do Hence why big brawny V8s used to be the order of the day in American cars I.E. Cadillac's famed 500 Cubic in or 8.2L V8 which started with 400 HP in 1970 and by 1976 was at 190 hp which is less than a 4 cylinder Toyota Camry has in modern day by 9.5%
Pre 1973- desirable
1973 and beyond- malaise.
Had a 66 shevy blAri 283 trobber charged
It would be very hard to interest me in any olds before 66 and later than 72.
Stop with the 6.1 liter J2 crap.
I agree with the liter part, but j2 is music to the ears of classic car lovers, that tells you that it is the high performance version with three 2 barrel carbs
Just because you can’t convert litres to cubic inches doesn’t mean everyone can’t.
1947 was the last year ???? The big post war body change was 1949 for GM .
Well how did the narrator if this convert every one of those cubic inch displacements to litres? I agree, he shouldn't have... And he even knows how much horsepower! ---
Sowhich 5 are the ones that are worth nothing? I assume all from the mid 80s- mid 90s Cutlass Ciera, Firenza, Calais, Achieva and Silhouette????? I owned 3 of them and loved them but they're definitely not collectables
That's right,They do comand Six figures All Day long if they are original!!!!!No joke , beautiful and comfortable and can back up its out standing looks!!!!!!! Try and find an original one from the original owner who chose the perfect options like (had several 4 speed,s more fun to drive up and down hill,s , mountain road,s BUT , Ordered with the Automatic dual gate shifter and just a rear defroster ,a must with cool mornings and hood lock 342,s ni shroud, didn't come with it , would it run much cooler,yes but it didn't come with it.Neither did my 4 speed,s wich would over heat in traffic some time,s but my Auto with just power steering , brakes,hood lock , night watch, speed alert W-27 rear just all beautiful big block mint and with ty original teal high heat blueish paint and clutch fan with mint red fender well,s what is more beautiful than that i ask !! Oai not ram air .OAInduction! again Air scoops up and out where they belong!!!!! And the body lines OMG you know peace
Not bad but no W31 or W34
61 F85 will never be worth that much.
The person that posted this video should have done their homework before putting out a bunch of wrong information. Many of the facts are wrong.
The thumbnail is BS!
As is the entire list. The narrator is fake as well.
AI and clickbait will be the downfall of the internet. This video is BS!
My dad had a 64 Oldsmobile ninety eight.....
I notice that folks don't say their numbers right anymore. Like in this video he says 348 hp instead of three-hundred and forty-eight hp. Why? I mean we were all taught in school how to say are numbers, RIGHT! Is this the continued dumning down of the American public. Old man rant.
It's not a human voice, it's a machine.
The Bot narrating this video is getting a LOT wrong. Thumbs down.
That dragstrip Hurst looks fake and the driver is just as bad
This is so wrong. What a waste of time.👎
Oldsmobiles sucked...all through the years. They were recognized among rich neighbors as "poor man's Cadillacs". They were big, ugly, and without any redeeming social graces. The W-30 was a joke attempt at getting "cool" kids to spend their money on a supposedly hopped-up geriatric car. I don't see very many shows on TV showing how they restore old Oldsmobiles. THERE; I said it! Come on, haters!
Now, I apologize to all you Olds lovers. Everybody has their thing. Just ask my stupid wife.
What is your wife's number ?
You probably didn't drive many of these cars.