Please can we have discussions more like this on this channel. This was a fantastic collection of historians, the only one missing was Lucy Worsley. Her input would have been very interesting. I think she might have had something to say about Anne Boleyn! Fabulous video and I hope for more! Glad it didn’t come to blows! There were boxing gloves on the wall and I wondered if there was going to be fisticuffs! Brilliant, more please!
I was very disappointed to not see Lucy Worsley on the panel. The other historians were great, after all it’s always fun to see Suzie Lipscomb and Eleanor Janega. Lucy is a specialist of British royal history though…
The thing that was most missing was everything outside of Europe, and for the most part anything outside of England.... I mean everything else is very interesting but the elephant in the room is!
If we're talking about queens of the British Isles, my absolute favorite is Aethelflaed, Lady of the Mercians (lovely title too btw). The daughter of Alfred, she played a huge role in the unification of England, personally leading armies against the Vikings. I love her. And she, albeit briefly, passed the crown of Mercia to her daughter, which is unprecedented in all of western history: a queen that is succeeded by another queen. Now that is Girl Power!
That's the slightly disappointing thing about this conversation, though: this is a discussion about the greatest queens in British history, not in history: not even counting Eastern, African, and American history, there have been several queens/empresses who could have been included here but weren't.
Aethelflaed and her daughter predate Elizabeth and Mary by about 1000 years. At the time that Aethelflaed passed her crown to her daughter such a succession had never happened before, therefore yes, it was an event without precedent.
I really loved that and honestly would watch an entire hour dedicated to this discussion. Absolutely fascinating to have the dynamic of differing opinions in a positive intellectual conversation. I was definitely left with wanting more.
Please! It's Elizabeth I. Pampered Victoria never had to put up with half the court intrigue, threat of invasion, and lack of health care that Elizabeth did. Elizabeth was a cutthroat rockstar who survived in a male dominated brutal world. V1 for a close second but E1 all day long...
I Totally agree Elizabeth the first, was a brilliant Politician she never married for a reason. I wonder how many of these historians would have lasted as Queen if they were in her shoes.
I mean... Elizabeth I never lost a husband, she didn't lose a child, she wasn't pregnant for nearly a full decade while ruling. She didn't live in the early years of mass media or photography. I don't think it's a fair comparison at all.
@@emmavink Your right the paparazzi aren't likely to abduct you lock you up in the tower of London torture you for a false confession & then behead you. Elizabeth lived in fear of that happening for quite some time. Her predecessor was called Bloody Mary for a reason. When Elizabeth came to power she could have done the same but didn't she had to walk a fine line between 2 different groups of religious fanatics. That was one of the main reasons that she never married. Hence why I think she was a brilliant politician
If we go back to the Saxons I would argue for Aethelfled of Mercia, daughter of Alfred.. She played a huge part in ending the Danelaw South of the boarder, She liberated the Midlands, and if not for her their may have never even been an England.
@@R08Tam it's my favourite time and place to learn about.. The island of seven kingdoms (or eight).. A time of magic and dragons.. The magic and dragons weren't real but in there minds they were. And then of course there's King Alfred..My favourite king.
Even though I'm mad at the writers for veering so far away from the actual history and who she really was, I love that she had a major role in The Last Kingdom and more people could learn about her. The reenactment of her funeral that Gloucester did a few years back was cool too. Nice to see the Lady of the Mercians get some of the love she deserves.
I just loved that. Great discussion without being dragged down wiith facts and figures. Rather each had opinions based on their studies and that is why they are all simply brilliant. Love it - please, please have more discussions like this. So wonderful and this cast of characters was perfect. Well done all.
I just discovered this channel the other day and I already want to be besties with Dr. Janega. I could watch this panel for hours and not get tired of this. I'm currently watching while I'm supposed to be writing a paper on museum collections ethics, but this is much more fascinating lol
Would also like their opinion about Empress Maud/Matilda. She was unsuccessful in her war with Stephen, but was definitely one of those queens who was trying to hold the succession together for her son Henry.
Literally all they did was say how special all the incompetent queens throughout history have been while Dan told them how women are better than men to make them feel good about themselves. Trash discussion, no facts. All feelings.
I can't believe this is only 19:32, I need this as a weekly 1h show at least! Absolutely amazing idea to have this wonderful women talking about female monarchs, bravo!!
@@swymaj02 Love her push for vaccinations, the first real organized attempt to prevent the horrific smallpox outbreaks Russia was experiencing. Putting herself and her HEIR on the line really did a lot to give people belief in the process. And feeding them didn’t hurt!
Catherine of Aragon, although not English was a great support to Henry VIII in a way that his other queen's (apart from Katherine Parr) did. She was his Regent during Flodden and she had learnt from her mother Isabella of Castile. Her only failure is that she did not have a son.
Amazing stuff, absolutely fascinating. Would like to see a whole hour of this, or a whole series! Admittedly, this should probably be titled 'Greatest British Queens', but great stuff nevertheless.
I "discovered" Elizabeth I as a little girl in the U.S. My mother told me her side of the family was descended from a Stuart, which I have verified in subsequent years. I started out learning about Mary, Queen of Scots, but that effort led me to ER I. I never looked back. Although I studied the lives of many English/British queens, NONE OF THEM can hold a candle to Elizabeth I, given what challenges and dangers she faced throughout her life. Elizabeth inspired me, and at the age of nearly 67, I give her much of the credit of being a role model to help me develop the strength, confidence, and preserverence to achieve what I consider to be a successful life.
Elizabeth the I has been overexaggerated. She copied most of what to do and not to do to stay in power from other queens such as her sister Queem Mary I. She was the one that invented the "Mother of the Nation" idea that Elizabeth hold on to, as well as making economic reforms that would pay off in Elizabeth's reign. Elizabeth was a master of Propaganda and knew how to present herself properly. I am sorry you built up your inspiration on a highly fictional elaborated exaggeration of the actual true Elizabeth I. Not saying she wasnt strong or anything but far from being what she's always zealously idolized for.
What? No mention of Æthelflæd? Alfred the Great's daughter, who actually DID pass her power to her daughter and was probably the greatest 'queen' no one ever seems to remember.
AHH, thank god someone mentioned Aethelflaed. I'm getting tired on some people mentioning Boudicca being great which is isn't that great at all, not even top 10 🤦🏽
Hear, Hear, she was the truly badass queen. Leading men into battle against the Viking horde. Overshadowed her husband King of Mercia. Daughter of the greatest Anglo-Saxon King who laid all the ground work Britain become England.
Great! If we're allowed to be a bit loose about our fave queens for this and that, then I'd DEFINITELY be interested in going down the pub for a few snakebites with Cleopatra.. Or how about Boudicca, Queen of The Iceni? That'd be something. But my real favourite English Queen has to be our reigning monarch, Queen Elizabeth ll.. An outstanding exemplar of duty, service and continuity in our wacky world. Happy Jubilee everyone! 🇬🇧👍
But was Boudicca a queen? She was a tribal chief in a part of East Anglia which isn't quite kingdom sized by todays standards. So perhaps she was the equivalent of a princess regnant or even a duchess?
Dude,, Budica was obviously awesome but we know hardly anything about her. So she has no right being named our greatest queen.. Especially as she lost and had her land conquered
Compare to other great gorgeous queens, Boudicca isn't successful and ain't a queen at first. She lost terribly in fact, the worst tactician, commander, and they killed alot of Roman citizen which in fact their own people
for a bar fight you might want Isabella the She-Wolf of France, Mary I or Margaret of Anjou... there were plenty of tough queens and queen consorts out there. Just make sure you stay on their good side... lol
Wow, I loved this. Any chance of more discussions with these panel of esteemed professors and Doctors? Is there any chance that Dan you could do something on Force Viper(Burma) and the Royal Marine Boom Patrol Detachment?
The Red Queen Margaret Beaufort is pretty hard to beat. Tudors wouldn't have been a thing without her. Look up everything she did if you don't know yet. She left me open mouthed in awe.
Elizabeth I is my hero and has been since I was in grade school and read "Young Bess." I've learned a lot more about the queen in the years since, and my admiration has only grown. She was so clever, brave, and intelligent! She made translations from Latin, among other things. I think there's something to the idea that Elizabeth feared childbirth. Look at the various stepmothers she had! Elizabth II had no education in the sense that we think of it these days. She was tutored at home and simply didn't have a normal childhood or young adulthood.
Not my favourite. Elizabeth I had Mary Queen of Scots executed. She also wanted to end the Tudor lineage by not having children. Perhaps "revenge" against her Tudor father, Henry VIII, who executed her mother Anne Boleyn.
Yeah, I clicked expecting to hear people arguing for like Hatshepsut, Wu Zetian, and Tamar the Great. This is still interesting, but the title is a bit misleading.
I wonder if there was some intelligence and reasoning behind Elizabeth failing to produce an heir and instead allowing James I to become king. He was a Protestant meaning that he would appease the the staunchly Protestant English majority while continuing England’s relationships with the Protestant powers on the continent. While at the same time, his being the son of Mary, Queen of Scots meant in Catholic law his claim to the English throne would be officially recognised, therefore ending the plot of putting a Catholic supported heir on the English throne.
She didn't want to risk losing her throne and power. Look what happened to her cousin Mary during the same time, as soon as she got married and had a son her rule and authority collapsed. After seeing what happened to Mary I'm pretty sure so thought to herself that will not happen to me
Couldn't agree more. Best middle ground exemplified in a human being. Yes, Henry VIII was a middle ground in religion too, but James is way more composed.
@@Bigmojojo To be fair, Mary made terrible and disastrous decisions about her chosen marriages. If Elizabeth was as capricious, she probably would have married Robert Dudley regardless of the rumors and had her rep in tatters as well. Just saying. 🤷🏻♀️
Okay Estaban we get it. You're an ally. I hope she sees this bro. The title says "female" because they were specifically chosen due to that little thing women have between their legs.
Ironically, I listened to this podcast earlier today, then ran across the video. Both excellent, but it is fun to watch the non-verbal communication. I also gained a whole new perspective on Elizabeth I.
England and Britain have some truly formidable and amazing queens! Mary the first even though she was called bloody, she really paved the way for legitimate queenship! Elizabeth the first was truly pivotal as well and Mary and Anne of House Stuart were also very much good influences for the better! Elizabeth the second reigned the longest and I think she was such an iconic figure! Anyway, funny conversation! Lots of love from across the world! Cheers!
My personal view of the topic is that Queen Isabella of Spain was the most influential queen with her support of Christofo Colombo to sail west to get to India. This single act opened the Americas to settlement and the birth of the future superpower the USA.
Sadly she isn't quite successful and terribly bad at tactics, just like her generals, so they got all defeated by a random Roman general or commander. Bravery isn't enough, great achievements is needed.
@@eugeneflores6153 it goes deeper than that, she stood in the face of true failure and death, was able to use her skill to unit previously divided and waring tribes against a common enemy. Then seized the opportunity to take key strategic positions including London in the process killing a estimated 50/60k Romans (soldiers and civilians) putting the fear of god into a empire that was on a scale never seen again so much so that they fully contemplated pulling out of the U.K. she lost a key battle yes but the technological difference was immense and only a hand full of people had beaten the Romans through that time period of a few hundred years. She bravely faced death for her people, none of the above mentioned did. She’s a true warrior queen and for me a legend.
@@herb2078 So in short, she died in a grotesque way, and lose almost all of her men to her incompetency and her terrible commanders as well, then during her 1-year reign, she slaughtered lots of civilians her own people that became Roman citizens, and meager roman patrols. Sounds like she isn't progressive and impressive compared to the other queens. Instead of capturing the towns and villages that roman holds, they plundered and pillage. These female historians that have been featured in the video know who is more impressive than the overrated Boudicca.
I love seeing all my favorite historians having real discussions on who is the best and worst, thank you!! I personally have a heart for Queen Elizabeth 2, she never complained and never explained ❤ as for worst, definitely Bloody Mary!!
Great content as always from History Hit and I think it’s a good thing we are talking about the (mostly) amazing woman monarchs that have ruled. - My only concern is their quickness to lump all kings into the useless/destroying the monarchy box, which is just untrue. It’s important to remember we can celebrate woman’s achievements without bashing men. Rant over 🤣Happy jubilee weekend everyone 👑
Seems easy to put men in that box. But I can see why. A lot of them really are trash, and the few good Kings we had didn't do it on their own. Don't forget, "behind every successful man is a woman".
This should’ve been titled Greatest British Queens. There are plenty of queens and empresses around the world. Also why is there no mention of Freddy Mercury
For the best/worst Queen question, Mary I got off easy. The woman willing to give her kingdoms away to a foreign king who never cared about England, Wales, or Ireland was a much worse Queen than Elizabeth I or Mary II. Every fault they ascribed to Mary II was preceded by even worse behavior by Mary I, a woman content to do as her husband wished as long as the Protestants were burned, the Protestant children and newborns included. By contrast, Elizabeth I loved England enough to maintain a foreign policy that kept the British Isles from becoming annexed by France, Spain, or Austria, despite everything her sister did to make that happen. Saying “no one would care about her if not for the Protestant Reformation” is also a very flippant way of saying she prevented open civil war over religion that was seen in the European continent from 1522-1648. Not that Mary I was incompetent. She just didn’t care about England a tenth as much as she did her religious policies. You would need to have a very narrow view of history to say Elizabeth I a worst British Queen than Mary I. One left two kingdoms and a dominion vulnerable to Spanish domination, the other set the stage for a superpower. For all the bad parts of the British Empire, none of the accomplishments can be credited to Mary I.
Queens will rule through a consensus of information they did not make a decision without the due diligence of getting as much Information possible . This was coupled with What were the desired results and would they be advantageous For the nation. Male monarchs Ruled by decree and relied more on their own experience Coupled with a few close counselors to make a decision as rapidly as possible to achieve the Most advantageous Outcome.
And then was defeated by the Romans. She has a great and tragic story but in terms of real significant accomplishments she has none, and made no real dent in England or Britain's history.
@@Bigmojojo "no dent in britains history" what?, we have a huge statue dedicated to her in west london, she's a symbol of british defiance. she defeated a roman legion and almost wiped out roman britain and almosy saved our people from the centuries of colonial servitude, she made a huge impact on british history, shes a hero and a hugely popular person here in britain. That's like saying rome losing three legions in germania never made a dent in their history,
I turned in expecting to get a discussion in thee greatest queen in history. Was is it Margarete I? Was it Katherine the Great? Was it Hatshepsut? Was it queen Elizabeth or queen Isabella? Nothing. I got nothing. It's just greatest BRITISH queens.
Prof. Anna Whitelock's obsevation about Queens' incompetent sons rings just as true today. Queen Elizabeth II has been such a great monarch but all 3 of her sons are either an embarrassment and/or about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
QE2 is the worst monarch in British history. She reigned over the end of Britain as a world power and the death of the British people. Britons are a minority in every city in their homeland and the country is bankrupt and powerless. In another generation Britons will effectively be extinct.
I'm sorry but isn't her youngest son not only scandalous free but also a devoted husband and father. And outside of Diane and Camilla what has Charles done to get so much hatred?
@@tobehonest7541 known for her respect for the indigenous americans (which was something completely odd and something that defines her) Secondly, she didnt live long enough for the Protestantism, secondly she treated jews and muslims just as any other kingdom in europe, expelling them.
How about queen Margaret 1 of Denmark (1353 -1412) who united the Scandinavian kingdoms in the Kalmar union in 1397? Henry IV of England's daughter Philippa married her adoptive son Erik.
My thoughts exactly. Very impressive what she achieved, though the Kalmar Union would not last. She kept the Hanseatic League at bay, inherited Norway, kicked Albert II from Sweden, and adopted an heir. All of which she did without a husband. In my opinion she is in the same league as Cnut the Great in terms of Scandinavian history.
@@emiliosgregoriou8943 She was popular and the union would have lasted better if the Danish kings after her and Philippa (especially from Christian I to Christian II) hadn't turned imperialistic. (Christian II treatment of the Swdes is actually very similar to the Englishmen's treatment of indigenious gruops in much of their modern empire.)
I'm never disappointed when I expect Brits to conflate British history with all of history. Think how much better this could have been (and it's great!) if the vast world outside Britain were considered? Catherine the Great, Maria Theresa, let alone all the Queens outside Europe?
Yeah but then the video would have been 12 hours long...but you're right of course, why would British historians in a video obviously aimed at British people (and people of British descent) cover just British monarchs...are they idiots (well someone is 🙄)
I'm a historian. Comparison of Queens in only one country is of nationalist interest and of popular interest, but not of historical interest. It wouldn't take 12 hrs to throw in a few more since Queens are in fact extremely rare. And the UK indeed has expert historians to speak on these other Queens who are always left out of your otherwise great popular history programming. This IS done of course to cater to the UK audience, but that would be my point, illustrated beautifully by the first two commentators: this kind of programming has taught UK audiences to see history parochially. As for the title, it is part of an extremely consistent pattern over a century that is very well known by all historians, that Brit works (incl the scholarly pubs) tend to leave out the narrow geographic range in titles but also in *arguments*. Most scholarship has a narrow geographic specificity, that's necessary, but awareness of it matters substantively and it's well known around the world that this is a weakness of the British academic system that is simply entrenched from early days. The point of my post was that it's a shame now, when academics mostly know better, that the rather unimaginative expectations of any history aiming for a broader audience mindlessly falls back on "Tudors & Hitler" with all the other familiar limitations that phrase is meant to imply, instead of taking the opportunity to, for example, just swap one or two of these wonderful historians for a different great British historian who specializes on say Austria and Russia - and I assure you, you do have those historians and you would have enjoyed and been enriched by that conversation even more than the very good one that actually happened.
To spell it out more clearly: the 19th century notion of what history is (a study, not the literal past), is to construct national myths. For over a century now, it has developed instead into a study of change over time and a practicing of teaching and learning about the world accurately, a completely different project. Public audiences everywhere are very slow to even comprehend a difference, but it's the job of historians to teach it. It is very well known that in the UK, while your historians are as good as anywhere else, the academic publishing and popular history apparatus, are deeply mired in the 19th c. That's better than in the US where there is basically no popular history actually based in expertise and academic publishing is being starved to death while school boards write racist textbooks!! But being blessed with good platforms and good people, it would be lovely to see the hosts and producers and publishers really let it flourish.
@@kpanyc rather than criticising folks for their Brito-centric opinion why don't you, as a historian, put up a video on your channel doing just what you suggested. Admittedly it does seem far easier to just sit back and nitpick but with you levels of erudition a fair non Brito-centric, non Euro-centric comparison of Queens of the World wouldn't just be feasible, it would be easy 😉😊
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Dan Snow is for sure my favourite female historian, glad he was included
Didn't need Dan Snow. Why was he there?
Moderating the discussion I guess.
Freddie Mercury, obviously.
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Excellent, just excellent
👑💎👏👏👏 This deserves 💯 points out of 10. Singin 🎤 🦚
Brilliant!
This!
Please can we have discussions more like this on this channel. This was a fantastic collection of historians, the only one missing was Lucy Worsley. Her input would have been very interesting. I think she might have had something to say about Anne Boleyn!
Fabulous video and I hope for more! Glad it didn’t come to blows! There were boxing gloves on the wall and I wondered if there was going to be fisticuffs!
Brilliant, more please!
I was very disappointed to not see Lucy Worsley on the panel. The other historians were great, after all it’s always fun to see Suzie Lipscomb and Eleanor Janega. Lucy is a specialist of British royal history though…
Absolutely I wish Lucy had been there
Dr Tracy Borman wasn't there either. But I loved this.
@@marthahawkinson-michau9611 Allison Weir is fantastic as well.
The thing that was most missing was everything outside of Europe, and for the most part anything outside of England....
I mean everything else is very interesting but the elephant in the room is!
If we're talking about queens of the British Isles, my absolute favorite is Aethelflaed, Lady of the Mercians (lovely title too btw). The daughter of Alfred, she played a huge role in the unification of England, personally leading armies against the Vikings. I love her. And she, albeit briefly, passed the crown of Mercia to her daughter, which is unprecedented in all of western history: a queen that is succeeded by another queen. Now that is Girl Power!
That's the slightly disappointing thing about this conversation, though: this is a discussion about the greatest queens in British history, not in history: not even counting Eastern, African, and American history, there have been several queens/empresses who could have been included here but weren't.
"unprecedented in all of western history: a queen that is succeeded by another queen." Well, Elizabeth I succeeded Mary I.
Aethelflaed and her daughter predate Elizabeth and Mary by about 1000 years. At the time that Aethelflaed passed her crown to her daughter such a succession had never happened before, therefore yes, it was an event without precedent.
@@melenatorrbest was the Chinese Empress queen who helped build the silk roads trading roots who started as a concubine. I can't remember her name
@@Emilyb21-dm3bf Wu Zetian. She also killed her own son, so she could held onto her power.
I really loved that and honestly would watch an entire hour dedicated to this discussion. Absolutely fascinating to have the dynamic of differing opinions in a positive intellectual conversation. I was definitely left with wanting more.
we need to get Dr Janega a professorship, she absolutely deserves it...also what a lineup of fantastic historians. great video.
Agreed! She is my favorite historian ❤️
Awesome lineup indeed. Awesome.
Bloody brilliant, yes. Personally, I think it's just a matter of time - she seems a bit younger than the others.
She has to apply for it and a panel of academics will approve it or not. She probably hasn't done that yet.
Wish this had been an hour long. Brilliant insights and perspectives. Good job all!
Omg. Prof. Lipscomb, Dr. Janega, and Prof. Williams all under the same roof covering an interesting historical subject? YES PLEASE!
Please! It's Elizabeth I. Pampered Victoria never had to put up with half the court intrigue, threat of invasion, and lack of health care that Elizabeth did. Elizabeth was a cutthroat rockstar who survived in a male dominated brutal world. V1 for a close second but E1 all day long...
Very well said
I agree 110%! Spot on!!!!!
I Totally agree Elizabeth the first, was a brilliant Politician she never married for a reason. I wonder how many of these historians would have lasted as Queen if they were in her shoes.
I mean... Elizabeth I never lost a husband, she didn't lose a child, she wasn't pregnant for nearly a full decade while ruling. She didn't live in the early years of mass media or photography.
I don't think it's a fair comparison at all.
@@emmavink Your right the paparazzi aren't likely to abduct you lock you up in the tower of London torture you for a false confession & then behead you. Elizabeth lived in fear of that happening for quite some time. Her predecessor was called Bloody Mary for a reason. When Elizabeth came to power she could have done the same but didn't she had to walk a fine line between 2 different groups of religious fanatics. That was one of the main reasons that she never married. Hence why I think she was a brilliant politician
If we go back to the Saxons I would argue for Aethelfled of Mercia, daughter of Alfred.. She played a huge part in ending the Danelaw South of the boarder, She liberated the Midlands, and if not for her their may have never even been an England.
One for the 'I must look up' list. Thank you!
I live in Tamworth, the power-base of Aethelfleda
@@R08Tam it's my favourite time and place to learn about.. The island of seven kingdoms (or eight).. A time of magic and dragons.. The magic and dragons weren't real but in there minds they were. And then of course there's King Alfred..My favourite king.
Even though I'm mad at the writers for veering so far away from the actual history and who she really was, I love that she had a major role in The Last Kingdom and more people could learn about her. The reenactment of her funeral that Gloucester did a few years back was cool too. Nice to see the Lady of the Mercians get some of the love she deserves.
I just loved that. Great discussion without being dragged down wiith facts and figures. Rather each had opinions based on their studies and that is why they are all simply brilliant. Love it - please, please have more discussions like this. So wonderful and this cast of characters was perfect. Well done all.
Lol yea I mean why would anyone care about facts? Lol sound like a woman.
I just discovered this channel the other day and I already want to be besties with Dr. Janega. I could watch this panel for hours and not get tired of this.
I'm currently watching while I'm supposed to be writing a paper on museum collections ethics, but this is much more fascinating lol
Margaret of Anjou totally warrants attention…love her or hate her, her role in the War of the Roses is undeniable.
Absolutely. And only a passing mention of the Empress Matilda (one of my favourites).
Would also like their opinion about Empress Maud/Matilda. She was unsuccessful in her war with Stephen, but was definitely one of those queens who was trying to hold the succession together for her son Henry.
And King Stephen’s wife Queen Matilda was an effective general who often kept Stephen in the fight.
@@awhite3747 and she is one of my gt gt persons.
Correct title: Greatest British Queen.
Plenty of powerful queens in history
Top historians are women?
@@Nopethebdndjdj Amazing eh? I went to buy some milk this morning
i counted four of them.
I was expecting Hatshepsut.
Indeed - here in Scandinavia we have Queen Margrethe the 1st: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_I_of_Denmark
@@laurahubbard6906 Or Nefertiti... Or Catherine the Great... Or Maria Theresa of Habsburg
I could have watched this for hours! Great topic, great group of historians, riveting and intellectual conversation. Everything about it was superb!
Literally all they did was say how special all the incompetent queens throughout history have been while Dan told them how women are better than men to make them feel good about themselves. Trash discussion, no facts. All feelings.
I feel blessed by this line-up of amazing historians. All stars.
My Favorite Queen is Hatshepsut she was the ultimate female pharaoh with great successful kingship never witnessed before in history
I can't believe this is only 19:32, I need this as a weekly 1h show at least! Absolutely amazing idea to have this wonderful women talking about female monarchs, bravo!!
I really enjoyed listening to this topic being debated. Awesome group of historians! Well done 👏
these types of conversations are why i absolutely love history hit!! such a great discussion!
The video title is misleading. I expected a broader selection pool, but still interested in their choices for greatest English queen.
Queen Margrete the 1st of Denmark, Norway, and Sweden!
This was mostly British Queens. As far as greatest Queen’s in history, Catherine the Great should be included at the top
so white people queens?
And she seems like she’d be fun to go for drinks with!
@@dana2502 And riding Horses!
She was extremely forward thinking for that time.
@@swymaj02 Love her push for vaccinations, the first real organized attempt to prevent the horrific smallpox outbreaks Russia was experiencing. Putting herself and her HEIR on the line really did a lot to give people belief in the process. And feeding them didn’t hurt!
Catherine of Aragon, although not English was a great support to Henry VIII in a way that his other queen's (apart from Katherine Parr) did. She was his Regent during Flodden and she had learnt from her mother Isabella of Castile. Her only failure is that she did not have a son.
This discussion was brilliant. What fun to watch these minds debate the importance and resilience of queens. Truly enjoyable content and thank you.
Amazing stuff, absolutely fascinating. Would like to see a whole hour of this, or a whole series! Admittedly, this should probably be titled 'Greatest British Queens', but great stuff nevertheless.
I "discovered" Elizabeth I as a little girl in the U.S. My mother told me her side of the family was descended from a Stuart, which I have verified in subsequent years. I started out learning about Mary, Queen of Scots, but that effort led me to ER I. I never looked back. Although I studied the lives of many English/British queens, NONE OF THEM can hold a candle to Elizabeth I, given what challenges and dangers she faced throughout her life. Elizabeth inspired me, and at the age of nearly 67, I give her much of the credit of being a role model to help me develop the strength, confidence, and preserverence to achieve what I consider to be a successful life.
none can hold a candle to her brutality, vanity and narcissism you mean
@@feelgoodbeats9376 Your criticizing royalty for that? Have you read history? That's almost all of them.
Elizabeth the I has been overexaggerated. She copied most of what to do and not to do to stay in power from other queens such as her sister Queem Mary I. She was the one that invented the "Mother of the Nation" idea that Elizabeth hold on to, as well as making economic reforms that would pay off in Elizabeth's reign. Elizabeth was a master of Propaganda and knew how to present herself properly. I am sorry you built up your inspiration on a highly fictional elaborated exaggeration of the actual true Elizabeth I. Not saying she wasnt strong or anything but far from being what she's always zealously idolized for.
@@TheBlazeofSteel Some more than others, Elizabeth was over the top on that one. Just because other royals were doesnt mean she was any less...
GIVE ME 10 MORE HOURS OF THIS CONVERSATION!
This was an AMAZING panel discussion 😻😻😻
What? No mention of Æthelflæd? Alfred the Great's daughter, who actually DID pass her power to her daughter and was probably the greatest 'queen' no one ever seems to remember.
They are mostly focus on English history after William the Conqueror. But that is a great pick btw
AHH, thank god someone mentioned Aethelflaed. I'm getting tired on some people mentioning Boudicca being great which is isn't that great at all, not even top 10 🤦🏽
Hear, Hear, she was the truly badass queen. Leading men into battle against the Viking horde. Overshadowed her husband King of Mercia. Daughter of the greatest Anglo-Saxon King who laid all the ground work Britain become England.
this was so interesting to watch, i would love to see more debates and discussions like this
Love the way he hosts the discussion. Wonderful discussion and new insights to British history. (Dr. Janega 👍🤘)
Great! If we're allowed to be a bit loose about our fave queens for this and that, then I'd DEFINITELY be interested in going down the pub for a few snakebites with Cleopatra.. Or how about Boudicca, Queen of The Iceni? That'd be something. But my real favourite English Queen has to be our reigning monarch, Queen Elizabeth ll.. An outstanding exemplar of duty, service and continuity in our wacky world. Happy Jubilee everyone! 🇬🇧👍
But was Boudicca a queen? She was a tribal chief in a part of East Anglia which isn't quite kingdom sized by todays standards. So perhaps she was the equivalent of a princess regnant or even a duchess?
Dude,, Budica was obviously awesome but we know hardly anything about her. So she has no right being named our greatest queen.. Especially as she lost and had her land conquered
Compare to other great gorgeous queens, Boudicca isn't successful and ain't a queen at first.
She lost terribly in fact, the worst tactician, commander, and they killed alot of Roman citizen which in fact their own people
I loved this discussion,please have more
For someone that I would want on my side in a bar fight I would choose Matilda. Eleanor is next.
for a bar fight you might want Isabella the She-Wolf of France, Mary I or Margaret of Anjou... there were plenty of tough queens and queen consorts out there. Just make sure you stay on their good side... lol
If we were allowing Countesses as well, I’d want Caterina Sforza
Mary was almost six feet tall, known for her athleticism and mean as a snake. My money's on her in the clench.
Wow, I loved this. Any chance of more discussions with these panel of esteemed professors and Doctors?
Is there any chance that Dan you could do something on Force Viper(Burma) and the Royal Marine Boom Patrol Detachment?
I love this, I wish it was longer.
Please - more of these wondering conversations.
Thank you for letting us know and I fully understand. Thank you for everything you've done for us and I will be happy to read your no-stress blog😊
Well done! I really liked this discussion😊👏👏
Fantastic conversation! Great job 👏
I could listen to these brilliant ladies talk all day!! 👑
The Red Queen Margaret Beaufort is pretty hard to beat. Tudors wouldn't have been a thing without her. Look up everything she did if you don't know yet. She left me open mouthed in awe.
What a room!! Thank you for bringing this together, great watch
Mary of Guise (Mary Queen of Scots mother) should be in the running
Elizabeth I is my hero and has been since I was in grade school and read "Young Bess." I've learned a lot more about the queen in the years since, and my admiration has only grown. She was so clever, brave, and intelligent! She made translations from Latin, among other things. I think there's something to the idea that Elizabeth feared childbirth. Look at the various stepmothers she had! Elizabth II had no education in the sense that we think of it these days. She was tutored at home and simply didn't have a normal childhood or young adulthood.
Not my favourite. Elizabeth I had Mary Queen of Scots executed. She also wanted to end the Tudor lineage by not having children. Perhaps "revenge" against her Tudor father, Henry VIII, who executed her mother Anne Boleyn.
This was amazing. Let’s get another round tablishhhh conversation going !!
Would be really interesting to see such a discussion regarding European queens. There have been some really remarkable women.
More of these profesh salons/panels, please! Terrific!
You should really add British to the title
Yeah, I clicked expecting to hear people arguing for like Hatshepsut, Wu Zetian, and Tamar the Great. This is still interesting, but the title is a bit misleading.
I wonder if there was some intelligence and reasoning behind Elizabeth failing to produce an heir and instead allowing James I to become king. He was a Protestant meaning that he would appease the the staunchly Protestant English majority while continuing England’s relationships with the Protestant powers on the continent. While at the same time, his being the son of Mary, Queen of Scots meant in Catholic law his claim to the English throne would be officially recognised, therefore ending the plot of putting a Catholic supported heir on the English throne.
She didn't want to risk losing her throne and power. Look what happened to her cousin Mary during the same time, as soon as she got married and had a son her rule and authority collapsed. After seeing what happened to Mary I'm pretty sure so thought to herself that will not happen to me
Couldn't agree more. Best middle ground exemplified in a human being. Yes, Henry VIII was a middle ground in religion too, but James is way more composed.
@@Bigmojojo To be fair, Mary made terrible and disastrous decisions about her chosen marriages. If Elizabeth was as capricious, she probably would have married Robert Dudley regardless of the rumors and had her rep in tatters as well. Just saying. 🤷🏻♀️
Fantastic to listen to women historians have an inspiring discussion
I'm trying to work out if there was any symbolism in the boxing gloves and punching bag props?
Fantastic panel and discussion.
They didn't even consider Queen Latifah or Freddie Mercury!
I look forward to a panel of male historians debating the Greatest King in history.
Good to see the faces I’m always listening to on podcasts
I could watch this for ever! Please do a part 2 and make it an hour long lol
Excellent video, super interesting. I would just suggest dropping the "female" from the title. Top Historians, period. :)
Female historians giving female perspective on a female queen.
Sounds like you are triggered by women.
Okay Estaban we get it. You're an ally. I hope she sees this bro.
The title says "female" because they were specifically chosen due to that little thing women have between their legs.
Ironically, I listened to this podcast earlier today, then ran across the video. Both excellent, but it is fun to watch the non-verbal communication. I also gained a whole new perspective on Elizabeth I.
this is great. wonderful. i’d love to hear more.
England and Britain have some truly formidable and amazing queens! Mary the first even though she was called bloody, she really paved the way for legitimate queenship! Elizabeth the first was truly pivotal as well and Mary and Anne of House Stuart were also very much good influences for the better! Elizabeth the second reigned the longest and I think she was such an iconic figure! Anyway, funny conversation!
Lots of love from across the world! Cheers!
What a panel! Just missing Helen Castor.
As Janina Ramirez is left out here I might skip this episode.Her book Femina discusses just this topic - I wonder why she was not included.
This was a fun episode!
My personal view of the topic is that Queen Isabella of Spain was the most influential queen with her support of Christofo Colombo to sail west to get to India. This single act opened the Americas to settlement and the birth of the future superpower the USA.
I would've thought The She Wolf, Isabella would've been mentioned
Suzannah Lipscomb and Kate Williams ? I'm in.
Yes my fav both with naturally ringlety hair
Eleanor of Aquitaine. As played by Katherine Hepburn, of course. She outlasted Henry and had the last word, so to speak.
Fantastic! Moreeee
I need more of this. I want to keep on watching
this episode is so much fun! more like this please!
I freeeacking love the ending on that beautiful romance story 😅 the tension!
Interesting assessment of Queens👌
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Oscar Wilde.
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I’m so shocked no one mentioned Queen Boudica!!! A brave true warrior queen who United tribes and lead on a battlefield as well as politically 🤯
You mean the woman who sacked several undefended cities full of civilians and then got her ass handed to her by one understrength legion?
Sadly she isn't quite successful and terribly bad at tactics, just like her generals, so they got all defeated by a random Roman general or commander. Bravery isn't enough, great achievements is needed.
@@eugeneflores6153 it goes deeper than that, she stood in the face of true failure and death, was able to use her skill to unit previously divided and waring tribes against a common enemy. Then seized the opportunity to take key strategic positions including London in the process killing a estimated 50/60k Romans (soldiers and civilians) putting the fear of god into a empire that was on a scale never seen again so much so that they fully contemplated pulling out of the U.K. she lost a key battle yes but the technological difference was immense and only a hand full of people had beaten the Romans through that time period of a few hundred years. She bravely faced death for her people, none of the above mentioned did. She’s a true warrior queen and for me a legend.
@@herb2078 So in short, she died in a grotesque way, and lose almost all of her men to her incompetency and her terrible commanders as well, then during her 1-year reign, she slaughtered lots of civilians her own people that became Roman citizens, and meager roman patrols.
Sounds like she isn't progressive and impressive compared to the other queens.
Instead of capturing the towns and villages that roman holds, they plundered and pillage.
These female historians that have been featured in the video know who is more impressive than the overrated Boudicca.
She was not a Queen..🤔🇬🇧
Would love to see a smaller group with Suzannah Lipscomb and Eleanor Janega being interviewedby Dan Snow or Dan Jones.
I love seeing all my favorite historians having real discussions on who is the best and worst, thank you!! I personally have a heart for Queen Elizabeth 2, she never complained and never explained ❤ as for worst, definitely Bloody Mary!!
I'm missing something. Who's Eleanor of Castile again?
very interesting, thanks from Virgnia!
Great content as always from History Hit and I think it’s a good thing we are talking about the (mostly) amazing woman monarchs that have ruled. - My only concern is their quickness to lump all kings into the useless/destroying the monarchy box, which is just untrue. It’s important to remember we can celebrate woman’s achievements without bashing men. Rant over 🤣Happy jubilee weekend everyone 👑
Seems easy to put men in that box. But I can see why. A lot of them really are trash, and the few good Kings we had didn't do it on their own. Don't forget, "behind every successful man is a woman".
Yes, female narcissism is a perpetual problem, not just a modern one.
What an extremely interesting cohort of women.
This should’ve been titled Greatest British Queens. There are plenty of queens and empresses around the world. Also why is there no mention of Freddy Mercury
Elizabeth the First, is in no way a lesser Queen.
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My favourite underrated Queen has to be Caroline of Ansbach.
That was fantastic!
For the best/worst Queen question, Mary I got off easy. The woman willing to give her kingdoms away to a foreign king who never cared about England, Wales, or Ireland was a much worse Queen than Elizabeth I or Mary II. Every fault they ascribed to Mary II was preceded by even worse behavior by Mary I, a woman content to do as her husband wished as long as the Protestants were burned, the Protestant children and newborns included.
By contrast, Elizabeth I loved England enough to maintain a foreign policy that kept the British Isles from becoming annexed by France, Spain, or Austria, despite everything her sister did to make that happen. Saying “no one would care about her if not for the Protestant Reformation” is also a very flippant way of saying she prevented open civil war over religion that was seen in the European continent from 1522-1648.
Not that Mary I was incompetent. She just didn’t care about England a tenth as much as she did her religious policies.
You would need to have a very narrow view of history to say Elizabeth I a worst British Queen than Mary I. One left two kingdoms and a dominion vulnerable to Spanish domination, the other set the stage for a superpower. For all the bad parts of the British Empire, none of the accomplishments can be credited to Mary I.
Anybody who wasn't british. That's the right answer... Scientifically speaking
Fascinating ladies.
Queens will rule through a consensus of information they did not make a decision without the due diligence of getting as much Information possible . This was coupled with What were the desired results and would they be advantageous For the nation.
Male monarchs Ruled by decree and relied more on their own experience Coupled with a few close counselors to make a decision as rapidly as possible to achieve the Most advantageous Outcome.
Elizabeth I the most inteligent and impressive queen and person in history.
Boudicca took no rubbish when her and her people were wronged stood up for what she believed gave it back 10 fold warrior queen to the max.
athelflead too.
And then was defeated by the Romans. She has a great and tragic story but in terms of real significant accomplishments she has none, and made no real dent in England or Britain's history.
@@Bigmojojo "no dent in britains history" what?, we have a huge statue dedicated to her in west london, she's a symbol of british defiance. she defeated a roman legion and almost wiped out roman britain and almosy saved our people from the centuries of colonial servitude, she made a huge impact on british history, shes a hero and a hugely popular person here in britain. That's like saying rome losing three legions in germania never made a dent in their history,
@@eadweardwoden7309 compare to other queens achievements, she isn't great at all. 🤷🏽
Boy, that Kate lady was on it. Her views made sense to me and I agreed with her views the most honestly.
I turned in expecting to get a discussion in thee greatest queen in history.
Was is it Margarete I? Was it Katherine the Great? Was it Hatshepsut? Was it queen Elizabeth or queen Isabella? Nothing. I got nothing. It's just greatest BRITISH queens.
Please do this again, and maybe with other historians too. So joyful to watch and enlightning.
Prof. Anna Whitelock's obsevation about Queens' incompetent sons rings just as true today. Queen Elizabeth II has been such a great monarch but all 3 of her sons are either an embarrassment and/or about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
QE2 is the worst monarch in British history. She reigned over the end of Britain as a world power and the death of the British people. Britons are a minority in every city in their homeland and the country is bankrupt and powerless. In another generation Britons will effectively be extinct.
I'm sorry but isn't her youngest son not only scandalous free but also a devoted husband and father. And outside of Diane and Camilla what has Charles done to get so much hatred?
@@Bigmojojo problem is, no one bangs on about him. He's mentioned as a son and that's it. Nothing that sticks out.
If we could look past them and give Anne the greenlight, that would be fine by me.
What about Isabel of Castille?
Known for her cruelty against Protestant, Muslims, Jews
@@tobehonest7541 known for her respect for the indigenous americans (which was something completely odd and something that defines her) Secondly, she didnt live long enough for the Protestantism, secondly she treated jews and muslims just as any other kingdom in europe, expelling them.
Since this is related to Elizabeth II’s jubilee, I imagine they’re focusing on English/British queens
@@joaquinboscheseverri9159 lol. she "respected" indigenous americans in order to expand her empire. good bye fool.
they talked about her.
I agree. Eleanor of Aquitaine. 2nd Matilda, who lived to see her son Henry II on the throne.
How about queen Margaret 1 of Denmark (1353 -1412) who united the Scandinavian kingdoms in the Kalmar union in 1397? Henry IV of England's daughter Philippa married her adoptive son Erik.
My thoughts exactly. Very impressive what she achieved, though the Kalmar Union would not last. She kept the Hanseatic League at bay, inherited Norway, kicked Albert II from Sweden, and adopted an heir. All of which she did without a husband.
In my opinion she is in the same league as Cnut the Great in terms of Scandinavian history.
@@emiliosgregoriou8943 She was popular and the union would have lasted better if the Danish kings after her and Philippa (especially from Christian I to Christian II) hadn't turned imperialistic. (Christian II treatment of the Swdes is actually very similar to the Englishmen's treatment of indigenious gruops in much of their modern empire.)
Boudica, Elizabeths, Victoria. Cleopatra VII, Hatshepsut, Nefertiti, Catherine the Great, FREDDIE!!
Boudicca? Her achievements isn't that great at all compared to other great queens
I'm never disappointed when I expect Brits to conflate British history with all of history. Think how much better this could have been (and it's great!) if the vast world outside Britain were considered? Catherine the Great, Maria Theresa, let alone all the Queens outside Europe?
Yeah but then the video would have been 12 hours long...but you're right of course, why would British historians in a video obviously aimed at British people (and people of British descent) cover just British monarchs...are they idiots (well someone is 🙄)
It is fine to just discuss British monarchs, but the title speaks of best Queens and not best British Queens.
I'm a historian. Comparison of Queens in only one country is of nationalist interest and of popular interest, but not of historical interest. It wouldn't take 12 hrs to throw in a few more since Queens are in fact extremely rare. And the UK indeed has expert historians to speak on these other Queens who are always left out of your otherwise great popular history programming. This IS done of course to cater to the UK audience, but that would be my point, illustrated beautifully by the first two commentators: this kind of programming has taught UK audiences to see history parochially. As for the title, it is part of an extremely consistent pattern over a century that is very well known by all historians, that Brit works (incl the scholarly pubs) tend to leave out the narrow geographic range in titles but also in *arguments*. Most scholarship has a narrow geographic specificity, that's necessary, but awareness of it matters substantively and it's well known around the world that this is a weakness of the British academic system that is simply entrenched from early days. The point of my post was that it's a shame now, when academics mostly know better, that the rather unimaginative expectations of any history aiming for a broader audience mindlessly falls back on "Tudors & Hitler" with all the other familiar limitations that phrase is meant to imply, instead of taking the opportunity to, for example, just swap one or two of these wonderful historians for a different great British historian who specializes on say Austria and Russia - and I assure you, you do have those historians and you would have enjoyed and been enriched by that conversation even more than the very good one that actually happened.
To spell it out more clearly: the 19th century notion of what history is (a study, not the literal past), is to construct national myths. For over a century now, it has developed instead into a study of change over time and a practicing of teaching and learning about the world accurately, a completely different project. Public audiences everywhere are very slow to even comprehend a difference, but it's the job of historians to teach it. It is very well known that in the UK, while your historians are as good as anywhere else, the academic publishing and popular history apparatus, are deeply mired in the 19th c. That's better than in the US where there is basically no popular history actually based in expertise and academic publishing is being starved to death while school boards write racist textbooks!! But being blessed with good platforms and good people, it would be lovely to see the hosts and producers and publishers really let it flourish.
@@kpanyc rather than criticising folks for their Brito-centric opinion why don't you, as a historian, put up a video on your channel doing just what you suggested. Admittedly it does seem far easier to just sit back and nitpick but with you levels of erudition a fair non Brito-centric, non Euro-centric comparison of Queens of the World wouldn't just be feasible, it would be easy 😉😊