"I prefer the theme called off." 😂 This is the first review I've seen of the 4090 version in English. You covered everything anyone could ask for. Great review!
Great review wish you included the time spy score so we can use the value against other 4090 laptops and truly see how gimped the 115W is. Also, for next time have the gaming benchmarks be alongside other laptops with similar specs to make better judgements on which laptop is more optimized.
also, running the benchmarks with turbo mode turned off would be good too. allow us to see how much extra noise the turbo mode produces against its performance advantage over other modes.
Did you find this laptop had excessive screen wobble? I've seen a few videos where it looks like it's moving quite a bit when reviewers put their hands on the surface it's on
Its got more wobble than I would have liked. There’s a few shots you’ll see where I rotate the device. You can see the screen wobbles there. It’s not excessive but if wobbles annoys you it might be a problem
@@Mido_ Right, this is a laptop that can be used for business, productivity, on the go use, meaning it would actually be in the LAP of a lot of users. I would like to see a legit review where the reviewer puts this laptop in their lap, and just typed for 20 seconds and records the screen/lid and how it reacts. This will not always be set up in a perfectly lit up RGB trendy apartment with mood lighting and flat table surfaces. Thanks @GLITCHEDZA for maybe adding this follow up test and video if possible. Not everybody can see this machine in person at their local stores and this would be super helpful!
@@GLITCHEDZA Right, this is a laptop that can be used for business, productivity, on the go use, meaning it would actually be in the LAP of a lot of users. I would like to see a legit review where the reviewer puts this laptop in their lap, and just typed for 20 seconds and records the screen/lid and how it reacts. This will not always be set up in a perfectly lit up RGB trendy apartment with mood lighting and flat table surfaces. Thanks @GLITCHEDZA for maybe adding this follow up test and video if possible. Not everybody can see this machine in person at their local stores and this would be super helpful!
I purchased the 4080 version and can confirm it runs just as hot, I ran it side by side playing dragons dogma 2 with the Lenovo legion 7i 2024 both in performance mode and can confirm that the 4070 on the legion runs on par with the 4080 on the zephyrs with the legion surface temps on the hinge part back and rear sides are 15 to 20 c cooler. Returning the zephyrs and staying with the legion 7i 2024
Wow you did what I wished I could do I’m stuck between this 4080 and 4070 legion laptop. Do you miss the speakers because that and the oled display which I never had is very pulling to me. I also idk about using a numpad I have very little use that and want to fully use the device I pay for
@@tommyg4842 dont think about the oled too much, fan heat and noise is way more important, otherwise you wont be able to enjoy any gaming without being concerned with the heat and the fans, since the display is already pretty small the oled is nice but nothing comparable to an actual monitor or TV
@@dzekydeblau thank you, I think just for that reason you said I’ve came to the conclusion I should just wait for the amd version for both especially the legion. Hopefully it will run cooler and last longer on battery
On mine, I lowered the wattage on the CPU and OC the processor/ram of the GPU via the Asus tool and so far so good.... the CPU fan is the loudest and the GPU seems to run pretty cool (relatively speaking).
I was about to buy this but i bought the g14 2023 rtx 4060 instead cuz ot was on sale for 999usd. Do you think its better choice for value. Nice video it helped
I do think the 4090 is a bit overkill. You're also not nearly getting the power you could out of it because of physics. Settling for a 4070/4060 on a notebook like this makes sense.
I didn't do any 3DMark tests besides the Speedway, CPU Test and Raytracing. The CPU test is in the video at 06:17 The Speedway test was - Overall - 4470 The raytracing Profile - DirectX Raytracing Feature Test (20 Samples) - 35.46FPS
I had the 4070 version and fell asleep playing dragons dogma 2 with it on my lap, the burning pain woke me up, I packed it up and returned it to Best Buy so I picked up the legion 7i 2024 it’s white and it stays pretty cool it also has 32gb ram, Asus made a big mistake going with Metal Chassis, it can actually injure you this being said I ordered the 4080 version because I saw a review that the 4080 and 4090 version run cooler and more quietly because they use a vapor chamber instead of a third fan. But I still highly recommend the Lenovo Legion 7i 2024 in White with the 4070 and 32GB of Ram this 4070 version will be on par with the zephyrus 4080 version because of the lack of power to the 4080.
Concise and balanced review. I'm surprised you got 14 hours on battery playing youtube - what level brightness was it on? Does it automatically switch to the integrated graphics when the 4090 is not required? How much does the performance drop on battery while using the 4090? Do the fans kick in when using less intense software like Microsoft Office? How does the fan noise and heat compare with the 2024 g16 of lower gpu, which doesn't have the vapour chamber?
what level of brightness was it on? - This was at 30% brightness Does it automatically switch to the integrated graphics when the 4090 is not required? Yes it does automatically switch to and from the 4090 when needed. How much does the performance drop on battery while using the 4090? Apologies I did not test the performance on the battery. Do the fans kick in when using less intense software like Microsoft Office? Very seldomly. It is the middle of summer here and quite hot so the fans were on most of the time. But the silent profile helps a lot to keep performance down and fan noise down too. How does the fan noise and heat compare with the 2024 g16 of lower gpu, which doesn't have the vapour chamber? The fan noise is much the same tbh. While there is a vapor chamber in this model, the thinner design requires the chamber and liquid metal in order to cram the Core Ultra and 4090 in this. So you're getting the same heat and noise but a thinner chassis.
The keyboard areas reached 49C on the top centre. It wasn't hot. But the bottom gets very hot. You will have to wait for it to cool down before touching it. Like picking it up to pack it away.
It's beautiful but the 4090 performs only marginally better than the 4080 in the G14 2023 version due to thermal constraints. that's a bit disappointing given the price. but if you need beauty and excellent performance and dont mind the lack of juice then i guess this is perfect.
Looks and priced like a MacBook Pro 16" M3 but gets hotter and doesn't have the long battery life... But you can play Cyberpunk 2077 with OLED! Win.... I think.
but why does Asus always have to pull all their stupid bullshit with SKU's in different regions. here in the UK, you can only get the 4070 model in black. If you want anything more powerful, it has to be white. Wtf is that about? Literally gone from being excited about my ideal laptop finally being made to having to get another brand because I *hate* white electronics.
Yeah I get you. Also, a white notebook, something you'll touch everyday and leave on a table, put your wrists on, isn't going to stay white. I enjoy a white GPU which stays in my closed PC. But not a white notebook.
@@adriatics.3357 yes, sadly in my experience and others I’ve read you only get about 3 years before having to send it away for a number of issues due to heating.
I see no reason why would anyone buy this thing instead of Razer Blade 16. Similar price, same size, same OLED display, similar premium aluminium CNC build, similar fan noise yet the Asus is like half as powerful and has soldered RAM. This laptop is the definition of e-waste.
Screen is less prone to reflections and it's easier to carry, 500g less is someting. Battery last like twice as long or even more. If you want maximum performance, portability is not as important and you have a controlled environment, go Blade. Else G16.
I'm checking prices here in the US, the blade 16 starts at 3k and g16 starts at 2k. I'm not sure they're comparable when it comes to price and performance. I think g16 is better for those that might value more portability. It's significantly lighter and probably better battery life. Blade 16 is also deceptively thin, is about as thick as a strix scar whereas g16 is like a macbook
Waste of money to go for a 4090 on such a thin laptop, if you have understanding of laptop's, you would go for the 4070 version at most, everything above 4070 is waste of money for this G16
4080 is prob the sweet spot imo, 4070 model only had 16gb of ram and a third fan which makes a high pitch noise that is very loud on the ears unless you want the smaller screen g14
14 hours? Bs. Never in your life. Also poor performance. Extremely overpriced. Want so sell something expensive? Just put a 4090 sticker. But its not even close to a real 4090. Just skip this generation.
@@joaor.8780that’s common knowledge everyone has known that these laptop gpus are no where near as powerful as their desktop counterparts yet people still buy them for portability
Dont buy this. Build an SFF with velka 3, can get psu and riser from them then just grab a 7600x or 14600k something around there with low profile noctua fan and one of the smaller 4060s. Great power for under 4 liters.
"I prefer the theme called off." 😂
This is the first review I've seen of the 4090 version in English. You covered everything anyone could ask for. Great review!
Great review wish you included the time spy score so we can use the value against other 4090 laptops and truly see how gimped the 115W is. Also, for next time have the gaming benchmarks be alongside other laptops with similar specs to make better judgements on which laptop is more optimized.
also, running the benchmarks with turbo mode turned off would be good too. allow us to see how much extra noise the turbo mode produces against its performance advantage over other modes.
Did you find this laptop had excessive screen wobble? I've seen a few videos where it looks like it's moving quite a bit when reviewers put their hands on the surface it's on
Its got more wobble than I would have liked. There’s a few shots you’ll see where I rotate the device. You can see the screen wobbles there. It’s not excessive but if wobbles annoys you it might be a problem
I've seen a video of this screen wobbling just from typing lol
@@Mido_ Right, this is a laptop that can be used for business, productivity, on the go use, meaning it would actually be in the LAP of a lot of users. I would like to see a legit review where the reviewer puts this laptop in their lap, and just typed for 20 seconds and records the screen/lid and how it reacts. This will not always be set up in a perfectly lit up RGB trendy apartment with mood lighting and flat table surfaces. Thanks @GLITCHEDZA for maybe adding this follow up test and video if possible. Not everybody can see this machine in person at their local stores and this would be super helpful!
@@GLITCHEDZA Right, this is a laptop that can be used for business, productivity, on the go use, meaning it would actually be in the LAP of a lot of users. I would like to see a legit review where the reviewer puts this laptop in their lap, and just typed for 20 seconds and records the screen/lid and how it reacts. This will not always be set up in a perfectly lit up RGB trendy apartment with mood lighting and flat table surfaces. Thanks @GLITCHEDZA for maybe adding this follow up test and video if possible. Not everybody can see this machine in person at their local stores and this would be super helpful!
I purchased the 4080 version and can confirm it runs just as hot, I ran it side by side playing dragons dogma 2 with the Lenovo legion 7i 2024 both in performance mode and can confirm that the 4070 on the legion runs on par with the 4080 on the zephyrs with the legion surface temps on the hinge part back and rear sides are 15 to 20 c cooler. Returning the zephyrs and staying with the legion 7i 2024
Wow you did what I wished I could do I’m stuck between this 4080 and 4070 legion laptop. Do you miss the speakers because that and the oled display which I never had is very pulling to me. I also idk about using a numpad I have very little use that and want to fully use the device I pay for
@@tommyg4842 dont think about the oled too much, fan heat and noise is way more important, otherwise you wont be able to enjoy any gaming without being concerned with the heat and the fans, since the display is already pretty small the oled is nice but nothing comparable to an actual monitor or TV
@@dzekydeblau thank you, I think just for that reason you said I’ve came to the conclusion I should just wait for the amd version for both especially the legion. Hopefully it will run cooler and last longer on battery
On mine, I lowered the wattage on the CPU and OC the processor/ram of the GPU via the Asus tool and so far so good.... the CPU fan is the loudest and the GPU seems to run pretty cool (relatively speaking).
How and what settings are they
From a fellow saffa and Asus fanboy, well done on the review. A few areas for improvement as noted in the comments below but still, well done.
32GB and 4090 is not avaible anywhere to pre order yet, just basic trim with 8GB and 16GB 4060-4070...
In a review like this you really need to include the 3DMark Timespy score so we can compare to other laptops.
Does the laptop support double sided SSDs or is it single sided only?
Double
I was about to buy this but i bought the g14 2023 rtx 4060 instead cuz ot was on sale for 999usd. Do you think its better choice for value. Nice video it helped
I do think the 4090 is a bit overkill. You're also not nearly getting the power you could out of it because of physics. Settling for a 4070/4060 on a notebook like this makes sense.
Nice review! Can you please share a timespy score? thanks
I didn't do any 3DMark tests besides the Speedway, CPU Test and Raytracing. The CPU test is in the video at 06:17
The Speedway test was - Overall - 4470
The raytracing Profile - DirectX Raytracing Feature Test (20 Samples) - 35.46FPS
@@GLITCHEDZAreview is useless without a time spy score. Imagine reviewing a laptop and not doing a gaming benchmark
@@GLITCHEDZA yeah i think a timespy score is must have these days in a review for reference
After animMe Matrix, the line lighting on the back cover has become ridiculous.
I had the 4070 version and fell asleep playing dragons dogma 2 with it on my lap, the burning pain woke me up, I packed it up and returned it to Best Buy so I picked up the legion 7i 2024 it’s white and it stays pretty cool it also has 32gb ram, Asus made a big mistake going with Metal Chassis, it can actually injure you this being said I ordered the 4080 version because I saw a review that the 4080 and 4090 version run cooler and more quietly because they use a vapor chamber instead of a third fan. But I still highly recommend the Lenovo Legion 7i 2024 in White with the 4070 and 32GB of Ram this 4070 version will be on par with the zephyrus 4080 version because of the lack of power to the 4080.
Crazy! haha! People told me I was wrong for complaining about the heat. It is a serious safety hazard.
I’ll wait for the hopefully improved 2025 version with the 5090
Ill just wait till next year if they fix the screen wobble and the ram being soldered ill buy this line of zephyrus. Damn than oled is lit!
Concise and balanced review.
I'm surprised you got 14 hours on battery playing youtube - what level brightness was it on?
Does it automatically switch to the integrated graphics when the 4090 is not required?
How much does the performance drop on battery while using the 4090?
Do the fans kick in when using less intense software like Microsoft Office?
How does the fan noise and heat compare with the 2024 g16 of lower gpu, which doesn't have the vapour chamber?
what level of brightness was it on? - This was at 30% brightness
Does it automatically switch to the integrated graphics when the 4090 is not required? Yes it does automatically switch to and from the 4090 when needed.
How much does the performance drop on battery while using the 4090? Apologies I did not test the performance on the battery.
Do the fans kick in when using less intense software like Microsoft Office? Very seldomly. It is the middle of summer here and quite hot so the fans were on most of the time. But the silent profile helps a lot to keep performance down and fan noise down too.
How does the fan noise and heat compare with the 2024 g16 of lower gpu, which doesn't have the vapour chamber? The fan noise is much the same tbh. While there is a vapor chamber in this model, the thinner design requires the chamber and liquid metal in order to cram the Core Ultra and 4090 in this. So you're getting the same heat and noise but a thinner chassis.
I tell you the brightness: zero nits.
@GLITCHEDZA thank you. I like reviews that are not trying to sell me the product.
@@colinmunro2632 hes not tyring to sell you. Hes just plain lying in your face.
@joaor.8780 notebookcheck got 11 hours video playback at 57% brightness, so I am a bit surprised with the 14 hours.
2nd review of this new device i've seen that confirms it runs too hot.
What do you mean. It’s within working temps
is it possible to undervolt this processor?
yes
If I use the Laptop keyboard while I game, will I feel my fingers burning or relatively cool?
The keyboard areas reached 49C on the top centre. It wasn't hot. But the bottom gets very hot. You will have to wait for it to cool down before touching it. Like picking it up to pack it away.
@@GLITCHEDZA Thanks for the reply, I really consider getting this laptop, because of the size and I would add a cooling pad and flash the vbios
My next gaming laptop!😍😍🥰😇
Seems to be a faulty paste on the CPU and GPU. In all other reviews the 4090 stays below 80C under full load
Can you run a TimeSpy and tell me what score you get please?
i remember my friend used the heat vents to warm his food🤣
What is the track called? still haven't seen the review went looking for the track XD
Here it is! audiojungle.net/item/future-background-lounge/25184637
Thanks a lot. Great review!!@@GLITCHEDZA
It's beautiful but the 4090 performs only marginally better than the 4080 in the G14 2023 version due to thermal constraints. that's a bit disappointing given the price. but if you need beauty and excellent performance and dont mind the lack of juice then i guess this is perfect.
Where to get 32GB ram version?
Looks and priced like a MacBook Pro 16" M3 but gets hotter and doesn't have the long battery life... But you can play Cyberpunk 2077 with OLED! Win.... I think.
This is basically a gaming Macbook if there ever was one haha. Very impressive notebook.
MacBook Pro M3 is slower than ultra 7 155H without dgpu in video editing.
LMAO! I prefer the theme off too :)
but why does Asus always have to pull all their stupid bullshit with SKU's in different regions.
here in the UK, you can only get the 4070 model in black. If you want anything more powerful, it has to be white. Wtf is that about?
Literally gone from being excited about my ideal laptop finally being made to having to get another brand because I *hate* white electronics.
Yeah I get you. Also, a white notebook, something you'll touch everyday and leave on a table, put your wrists on, isn't going to stay white. I enjoy a white GPU which stays in my closed PC. But not a white notebook.
new intels very hot with thermal trotel and near 50% prformance drop after 20min render ,,,, asus G14 and other ryzen labtops. very better
GPU 87 Celsius ? WOW
That’s all of zeph G14/16 models for the last 3 years. They handle it well until you accidentally touch the keypad!
@@-YokoOno hmm, yeah. I wonder if this heat keeps damaging the internals with time…
@@adriatics.3357 yes, sadly in my experience and others I’ve read you only get about 3 years before having to send it away for a number of issues due to heating.
@@-YokoOno lets see. Im on year 2 now.
Mine runs at 60-75 idk why his is so hot
I see no reason why would anyone buy this thing instead of Razer Blade 16. Similar price, same size, same OLED display, similar premium aluminium CNC build, similar fan noise yet the Asus is like half as powerful and has soldered RAM. This laptop is the definition of e-waste.
I was wondering the same thing!
Screen is less prone to reflections and it's easier to carry, 500g less is someting. Battery last like twice as long or even more. If you want maximum performance, portability is not as important and you have a controlled environment, go Blade. Else G16.
Razer's after-sales support is shit in most countries 😶🌫️
I'm checking prices here in the US, the blade 16 starts at 3k and g16 starts at 2k. I'm not sure they're comparable when it comes to price and performance. I think g16 is better for those that might value more portability. It's significantly lighter and probably better battery life. Blade 16 is also deceptively thin, is about as thick as a strix scar whereas g16 is like a macbook
@@erikkuchen in Europe (at least in my country, Poland), the difference between G16 4090 and Blade 16 4090 is about 250 USD (official stores)
Just get a cooling pad.
Those fat bezels on a flagship 2024 4090 $3k laptop, yuck.
Waste of money to go for a 4090 on such a thin laptop, if you have understanding of laptop's, you would go for the 4070 version at most, everything above 4070 is waste of money for this G16
The 4070 version also has worse cooling system, don’t forget that
@@svgstudios831 it uses less wattage anyway, so it wouldn't matter, it's cooling is good enough for 4070
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 not true
the 4070 version is much faster in silent mode @@svgstudios831
4080 is prob the sweet spot imo, 4070 model only had 16gb of ram and a third fan which makes a high pitch noise that is very loud on the ears unless you want the smaller screen g14
top lœd
14 hours? Bs. Never in your life. Also poor performance. Extremely overpriced. Want so sell something expensive? Just put a 4090 sticker. But its not even close to a real 4090. Just skip this generation.
chill bro, it’s a very slim laptop. What do you expect? 1nm Efficiency?
@@yusmeow honesty. Is that to much to ask? 14h? Really? Who in is right mind believe that? All other reviews says around 6 with luck. ....14....?
@@joaor.8780 I get the 14h, which is bs. but that 4090 lmao.
@@yusmeow its not a real 4090...you realize that...right? Also the tdp is not enough to fullpower the gpu. Its stupid.
@@joaor.8780that’s common knowledge everyone has known that these laptop gpus are no where near as powerful as their desktop counterparts yet people still buy them for portability
Just build a pc at this point, and if u need a small pc, just get a samsung tablet
Dont buy this. Build an SFF with velka 3, can get psu and riser from them then just grab a 7600x or 14600k something around there with low profile noctua fan and one of the smaller 4060s. Great power for under 4 liters.
How do I bring it to work tho in a cooler ?
Good luck fitting a SFF build in a backpack!
Ah yeah, orange and apples.
Portability goes down the drain.