I feel the DS remakes of the DQ games are true marvels of technology and visual design The spritework on the final boss of DQ4 is in a league of it's own
I've never played a single dragon quest game lol, but I love the insights and hearing you talk about them! Its kind of a cool little window inside a world I never knew existed.
Thanks for the honest video! Worth the wait. I'm one of those guys who holds DQ5 on a pedestal but the pain points are undeniable... even I play most the game on mute with my own playlist 😅
Well DQ5 is one of my absolute favorites with, the 3 generations hero's quest, monster recruiting, the incredible story, i understand your criticism. but still, i cannot stop seeing DQ5 as a masterpiece, and in my opinion there is still nothing like it. My King Cure Slime also took just 2 hours to recruit. ^^
Level 50 Mustache XD. Great video man. I like how the story comes full circle. I had no idea the importance of the golden orb until I saw the cinematic and I was surprised at the layers of the story.
I still remember when Toriyama forgot Launch existed for the ENTIRETY of Z saga. Also, have you looked into Metal Max/Saga games? Recently a spin-off of the series called Metal Dogs where you play as an armed dog has finally left Early Access.
Unfortunate that you didn't fall in love with DQV quite like I did. Even though I agree with all of your criticisms, I personally found the highs so high that I think it's really one of the best JRPGs ever made, and it's probably my favorite DQ. Just the structure of the game with the changing time periods is just so novel and cool
Both definitely had a hand to play in the matter. Pokemon devs have said in interviews while they were designing RBY that the reason they ended up having trading is because they were inspired by the old DQ games they played and wished they could trade their rare item drops. Not to mention a HUGE number of RBY Pokemon are just Dragon Quest monsters in a different artstyle AND serve the exact same roles in battle or the world like Pidgeotto just being the EXACT same bird as Bludgrigar and being a relatively early, common monster or how Nidoran is just Spiked Hare and even has a skill for boosting its damage early whether it be Focus Energy or Psyche Up.
Dragon Quest 3 is the best Dragon Quest for me, no contest. I hate to say it, as I respect what DQ5 did, but you have some good arguments against it, and it's my main opposition for 3 for the top game in the series. In other news. I'm glad to hear from ya again. I feel bad that I hadn't been following you since the three-month quiet, but I am glad to see you're still doing videos.
4:14 a beating and a half and a ka-frizz to the face later and pankraz is down for the Count (ding ding ding) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10! Now he just has to stand up.......... (5 minutes later)........ Any second now (1 hour later)........... Welp..... Hes dead
Admittedly, I partially agree with your opinions. However, I played on a version that has a lot of these problems fixed, mainly the Monster Recruitment. The mobile version adds an item to the game that makes recruiting monsters MUCH easier, to the point of doubling and even QUADROUPLING the chance of getting rare monsters
The mobile version would have that. There's no way in hell I could take a mobile game seriously. Still, that is a fun fact I wish I could've learned for the video.
@@ASkeleton I don’t take most mobile games seriously, but most Paid Mobile Games are actually decent, especially ports of games, including the entire DQ library that was ported up till now (1 to 8 with 7 being Japan Exclusive). I get your point, but if you could connect a controller, for example, or simply just try your best to manage with the mobile controls (which note, we’re specially optimized for mobile, and in my opinion, are incredibly convenient and allow traveling through menus very easily after an hour or two of use) you probably will enjoy it. Convenience features go a long way to improve these ports. DQ4 adds Party Chat, DQ5 adds easier recruiting, all the ports have quick saves and auto saves actively available, and DQ8 adds instant Alchemy Pot with no waiting time between recipe crafting
Great review, and thank you for going over the various options when playing; it can be tricky to know which one to play with these classic older JRPGs. I'm also curious what you'll think when you (I assume re)play DQ8. It's my favorite in the series, but you might be SUPER burned out on the core concept by the time you get there.
1:15 but there is a green king slime with some neat healing abilities which is somehow better than heal slimes who are named that way because of their healing
Yeah I also didn't feel like DQ5 isn't the masterpiece that everyone said it is. It has great story but the gameplay is just okay the monster hiring mechanic seems like a really good on paper but the majority of monster just become useless because of the level cap. I'm hoping you will enjoy DQ6 as much as I did
5:11 and debura Well lemme tell ya....... shes an absolute Girlboss, bully and just rouge from sonic without the treasure hunter, agent and sonic part *AND THEN SOME*
Dragon Quest V AKA the one where you almost get cucked by a horse. It is the Final Fantasy VII of the Dragon Quest series. The proof for this statement is that they're both considered the best games in their respective series by fans, sometimes even appearing side-by-side in lists (see: Famitsu Top100 from 2021), and in Itadaki Street on the PS2, Cloud gets paired up with the DQ5 Hero in the Opening cutscene. I only played the Super Famicom version, but I intend to play the other two releases in the future. The main gripe I had with DraQue V was that there can only be 3 party members at a time. This I found rather disappointing as it meant that I'd rarely have Monsters in my party since I wanted to use Sancho and my son instead. But this is also the only version with a glitch that allows you to recruit Monsters with a 100% success rate. One last thing I'd like to mention are the commercials. Following the theme of DraQue CM's being set in foreign countries, the DS commercial has Dutch actors and was filmed near a port in England. And in all three commercials (SFC, PS2, DS), the Hero marries Bianca. It's no wonder 95% of players chose her. Even Deborah was only added in as a joke. It's incredible how influential the concept of "two girls vying for the player character's attention, but one is more prominent than the other" was to future games.
I think alot of jrpgs would find alot of use with the ability to manipulate the music via some sort of juke box option. Really loved dq5 but i actually enjoyed 4 more. Good stuff as usual skeleton. Ps: i married deborah andnto my recollection it makes the kids much stronger in terms of physical strenght. That and her conversstions are actually more interesting and less predictive, especially towards the end of the game she really starts enjoying the MC more
@@ASkeleton dude she really feels like it because her lines are super unique and she's kind of a dick so it's interesting what you get. Whenever you do the party chat you always get something interesting when it comes to her.
@@ASkeleton good luck with 6, it's regarded as being the black sheep of the series and is a bit dvisive, usually the ones that like vi aren't too fond of V, i for one like voth but like V a little more. it kind of has the opposite problem where vi gives you so many spells and abilties and can be pretty entertaining in fights but the story feels like it just falls asleep in the midpoint of the game that you get lost on where your actually supposed to go
@Nightfall It also has an structure and progression that; how do I put this, it looked like it tries to combined the Light & Dark World aspect from Zelda: Link to the Past/Link Between Worlds with the Time Traveling gimmick from Chrono Trigger and side quest from Majora's Mask with 3 day cycled. However not only was it very underwhelming, but it's also overbloated that lost going through all that takes forever and doesn't utilized them well to the plot that's happening. It's not an long game. But it felt like it takes forever to get on where u wanted to go.
I love Dragon Quest V but always end up playing it the same way. I always end up choosing Nera because like her the most. My choice list: 1. Nera 2. Deborah 3. Bianca (sorry Bianca fans) Nera is absolute waifu mode and Deborah's story is actually pretty sweet, she softens up once you have kids. And Bianca? Well... I honestly think of Bianca more as either a best friend or a sister that I never had, so I don't usually pick her. I'm not into that childhood friend trope.
11:20 I want to try making videos off of the first trilogy and I can agree that playing another DQ game right after finishing one is not the best way to do it. Heck, I took a few months before playing DQ2 (which I’m still working on) and I am already getting tired of playing it despite being fairly close to the end, I think.
A Skeleton, have you considered reviewing "BoneRaiser Minions"? I thought it may be a game that would fit your aesthetic, it isn't quite a shmup.... It is more of a bullet heaven, and it is not very expensive on Steam.
Hmm... Bianca vs Nera vs Debora. Bianca actually has the higher HP/MP between her and Nera. Her stats are slightly more favourable early on compared to Nera (at least through level 20), however Nera has FAR higher Strength and higher Resilience in the end and they even out around 20 and then go their separate ways. Plus Nera has a better spell tree (she gets Kaboom and starts with Midheal). Bianca has no special spell that makes her stand out. Debora on the other hand, is the trophy wife when it comes to stats and equipment. She has Bianca's HP, Nera's Strength, and the highest Resilience stat of the three. She even starts out stronger than the other two, nevermind her level 99 stats. However Debora's armour selection is vastly reduced, especially in Shields (she has ONE, though it does have 1 def more than the Scale shield the other two are stuck with...however her resistance armour options are limited by comparison). She makes up for this by having access to all double hit weapons (the extras being additions specific to her), the Hela's Hammer (so she's a metal destroyer), and several swords and claws that make her far more useful as a physical attacker due to having on-hit status effects (sleep from the Dream Blade, poison from the Cobra Claws). However Debora's spell tree is abysmal by comparison. She doesn't have several useful spells both Bianca and Nera have, no Kafrizzle, and unlike her sister, no Kaboom. She just gets Kasizzle. Debora's party chat is also very unique and quite fun, and she goes through the most radical change of the three in the 3rd generation. Though she's not like Nera who literally wants to get into her husband's pants 24/7. Nera is a sex fiend. Nor is she as into spooning and reminiscing as with Bianca's chat. However she does develop appreciation and respect for her husband.
I have a feeling you'll be one of the few to really get into DQ6. Maybe not 7 given just how long it is and all the forced returns to old haunts, which would have been made much smoother had there been 1. new dungeons in the present for most of them, and 2. zoom works in the past and carries over into the present so you aren't forced to get on the ship each time. Though the class system in 7 might be more interesting for you given options...I hope you prebought at least a digital copy of 7 on 3DS prior to the store shutting down, as it's going to become very expensive for the next 6 months, maybe 1 year...small chance for a bit longer. Though I will say that the general themes in 6 and 7 are better suited to long-term play, though you'll hit that same wall that most of us have felt for years...ONE THEME throughout for the regular battles. God I wish Sugiyama were asked to make more general battle and overworld themes after certain scenarios/situations happen. At least in 7 you'll have three overworld themes that swap out...there's present, past before beating the bosses, and past after beating the bosses.
@@ASkeleton speaking of the wives, there is this misconception regarding bianca that I notice, mainly people claim she is the canon one which there isn't actual evidence in-game or even spin offs like heroes (both of which are portrayed the night before the wedding) that even imply it (heck the movie near the end is straight up "this isn't canon"). it's also kind of funny how in the original SFC version Bianca's fate was dark and that knowledge sunked in the remakes (hence hearing things like Bianca becoming a bar maid) which in ps2 and ds they removed it and instead it becomes laughably anti-climatic namely her dad where they make it seem like he is about to die only to be completely ok afterwards regardless who you choose it's the most blatant guilt trip I have ever seen
@@nightfall3442 You say misconception, then go on the argue in the game, not just the movie, why she is in fact the canon wife. The guilt trip correlated to her history with the Hero and how much time she spent with him (weeks is implied for the ghost castle and meets him twice over a period of what is meant to be 6 months). Then there's the fact that in the original game you never meet Nera until entering her father's town for the first time. They only added in that scene in the DS to help give some connection and reduce the guilt over Bianca. You're also supposed to pick up your old friend Saber using Bianca's Ribbon just after having helped Harry get in good with Maria whom you know he's in love with (and saving his brother, and restoring his position in the court). This is meant to tie you to the idea of relationships just after Harry can finally pursue his love. Which ends up in a marriage you get invited to in the very next town (after having learned Zoom anyhow). So you're already walking into Briscotelli's place with having just witnessed a Marriage of your best friend, and the last tie-in for your own life and love was using Bianca's Ribbon. Nevermind the dialogue Bianca has in the Water Cave, what her father says to you BEFORE you speak to her, and just after. That heavily indicates how she's put off marriage proposals from many men because she wants you specifically and cannot think of anyone else to settle with. That she's always thought about you and talked about you...blah blah blah. Then there's the DS party chat which only further cuts your heart out for letting her go (which is probably why they toned down what happens to her if you don't pick her in the DS since they doubled down on the lead-in with the extra dialogue. EDIT: Lest I forget the added dialogue related to Crispin and his devotion to Nera. Plus Nera's hidden feelings for him they added to the NPC chatter. So you feel like a total asshole in denying him the love of his life. Though at least how it's phrased in the DS (maybe it's the localization), they do tamp down Nera's feelings as more platonic with potential for more.
@@ASkeleton You are quite welcome. I hope you read my second post/response to this one. I do think you'll find the next two easier to handle as though the themes do repeat a lot...dear lord I don't get why Horii didn't push for more individual theme swaps from Sugiyama later on (maybe out of respect for his age and experience in the entertainment industry?). I do feel the themes are more tolerable and more enjoyable on repeat and loop.
I actually like the final boss of V, it's eerie but you get that dark powerful presence forboding the atmosphere chanting at you at your inevitable demise as the final challenge, they also play this theme for the estark fight and it does stick out a bit more least to my expereince as Estark is a powerful being and him fighting you is a test if you can outdo the lord of the underworld
1:28 also in the movie version instead of nimzo you have a virus version of nimzo who i call nimzo dot virus who was made by a disgruntled dev when making the vr remake of dq V (spoilers)
You could've just recruit an orc with a multiheal and full heal which is much easier instead of the king cureslime, finding a king cureslime is stupid just get an orc, I love DQV and I didn't find it boring, I played it and enjoyed it more than dqxi in some parts because it was shorter and had the better story out of every dragon quest imo, I think the highs outway the lows by a lot, the game had me hooked through out all of it which is something the first, second, third and fourth games had hard times to do(although four is my third favourite). The complains with the battle system was not appropriate cuz every dragon quest game I have played was an "oomph kasap fest" imo even dqiv had this and dqxi had this and trying another way of fighting bosses would led to a fail. The music didn't bored me and I have to say but in the end of dqiv I got tired of hearing the overworld music.
I really liked your comments on DQ5, I can relate a lot. Before I played it I had waayyy too high expectations because of how praised the game is by everyone in the community, so I played it convinced that this was going to be the best RPG that I would ever play. Wasn't the case at all, I actually had to force myself to get to the end trying to deny how boring the game was feeling to me. My problem was the combat, which is, for me, the most important aspect for an rpg to be enjoyable; I was so disappointed of how flat the combat was, as you mention, you can defeat every single boss with the same strategy, the game doesn't allow any type of creative or personal way of combat at all, the only thing the game expects from you is to put the time to level up enough so you can beat the boss with the same flat strategy over and over again. That's not a challenge, it's just wasting a lot of your time in a boring non-thinking process of smashing the A button non stop. But yeah, it's just because I'm judging it by today standards, back in the day was more than revolutionary and inspired the pokemon mechanics, which I like a lot more
triditional shouldint become an ecxuse to avoid inovation, thats something pokemon fans have let gamefreak get away with far too long, lazy deisgn labled triditional.
Oh you said nobody uses hocus pocus y do all the time and somehow some way beat the final boss using it and even beat extra bosses in DQ4 lol its fun but please dont do this to yourself
I feel the DS remakes of the DQ games are true marvels of technology and visual design
The spritework on the final boss of DQ4 is in a league of it's own
Psaro is nuts!
I think the phrase is marvel not marble lol
I've never played a single dragon quest game lol, but I love the insights and hearing you talk about them! Its kind of a cool little window inside a world I never knew existed.
It's a world that's not for everybody. I'm glad you enjoy the vids.
Thanks for the honest video! Worth the wait. I'm one of those guys who holds DQ5 on a pedestal but the pain points are undeniable... even I play most the game on mute with my own playlist 😅
I'm curious how different my listening experience would've been with the PS2 version. That soundtrack is really good. The boss theme goes hard!
Toriyama is guilty of forgetting a lot of stuff lol its happen in Dragon Ball too
Well DQ5 is one of my absolute favorites with, the 3 generations hero's quest, monster recruiting, the incredible story, i understand your criticism. but still, i cannot stop seeing DQ5 as a masterpiece, and in my opinion there is still nothing like it. My King Cure Slime also took just 2 hours to recruit. ^^
I never bothered with a king cure slime. The human party members and the slime knight were all better and didn't take 2 years to obtain
@@leargamma4912Slime knight is THE GOAT my man
Gosh I love that you make dragon quest vids, hardly anyone goes this in-depth with them
baha this game has you playing this mans whole lifetime
Level 50 Mustache XD. Great video man. I like how the story comes full circle. I had no idea the importance of the golden orb until I saw the cinematic and I was surprised at the layers of the story.
I still remember when Toriyama forgot Launch existed for the ENTIRETY of Z saga.
Also, have you looked into Metal Max/Saga games? Recently a spin-off of the series called Metal Dogs where you play as an armed dog has finally left Early Access.
Metal Max hasn't been anywhere on my radar, but I give it a looksee
Jesus Christ I'm happy I didn't sold my copy of ds when game stop was selling it for $30 bucks
Unfortunate that you didn't fall in love with DQV quite like I did. Even though I agree with all of your criticisms, I personally found the highs so high that I think it's really one of the best JRPGs ever made, and it's probably my favorite DQ. Just the structure of the game with the changing time periods is just so novel and cool
I don't love the whole game, but I love what it does right.
Hey, this is really excellently written and put together! Appreciated the Lemongrab cutaway, lol. Have a sub and hopefully the algorithm's blessing.
Thanks very much!
I played this on mobile and loved it. Far better than IV was.
You sure DQ V inspired Pokemon and not Shin megami tensei?
Both definitely had a hand to play in the matter. Pokemon devs have said in interviews while they were designing RBY that the reason they ended up having trading is because they were inspired by the old DQ games they played and wished they could trade their rare item drops. Not to mention a HUGE number of RBY Pokemon are just Dragon Quest monsters in a different artstyle AND serve the exact same roles in battle or the world like Pidgeotto just being the EXACT same bird as Bludgrigar and being a relatively early, common monster or how Nidoran is just Spiked Hare and even has a skill for boosting its damage early whether it be Focus Energy or Psyche Up.
Dragon Quest 3 is the best Dragon Quest for me, no contest. I hate to say it, as I respect what DQ5 did, but you have some good arguments against it, and it's my main opposition for 3 for the top game in the series.
In other news. I'm glad to hear from ya again. I feel bad that I hadn't been following you since the three-month quiet, but I am glad to see you're still doing videos.
Was I quiet for that long? It must've been between big projects. Thanks for sticking around!
@@ASkeleton Yup, it was the time between the Pokemon Blue video and the one before it. Regardless, happy to stay!
13:15
Mr. Bones OST.
I’m fairly certain that’s genuine, but if that was put in as a skeleton joke then you are a king.
Very genuine. That game has an excellent soundtrack. Look up The First Thing. Preferably without dialog
@@ASkeleton Still a king.
Fire soundtrack, by the way
4:14 a beating and a half and a ka-frizz to the face later and pankraz is down for the Count (ding ding ding) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10! Now he just has to stand up.......... (5 minutes later)........ Any second now (1 hour later)........... Welp..... Hes dead
Admittedly, I partially agree with your opinions. However, I played on a version that has a lot of these problems fixed, mainly the Monster Recruitment. The mobile version adds an item to the game that makes recruiting monsters MUCH easier, to the point of doubling and even QUADROUPLING the chance of getting rare monsters
The mobile version would have that. There's no way in hell I could take a mobile game seriously. Still, that is a fun fact I wish I could've learned for the video.
@@ASkeleton I don’t take most mobile games seriously, but most Paid Mobile Games are actually decent, especially ports of games, including the entire DQ library that was ported up till now (1 to 8 with 7 being Japan Exclusive). I get your point, but if you could connect a controller, for example, or simply just try your best to manage with the mobile controls (which note, we’re specially optimized for mobile, and in my opinion, are incredibly convenient and allow traveling through menus very easily after an hour or two of use) you probably will enjoy it. Convenience features go a long way to improve these ports. DQ4 adds Party Chat, DQ5 adds easier recruiting, all the ports have quick saves and auto saves actively available, and DQ8 adds instant Alchemy Pot with no waiting time between recipe crafting
Great review, and thank you for going over the various options when playing; it can be tricky to know which one to play with these classic older JRPGs.
I'm also curious what you'll think when you (I assume re)play DQ8. It's my favorite in the series, but you might be SUPER burned out on the core concept by the time you get there.
7 is going to end me...
1:15 but there is a green king slime with some neat healing abilities which is somehow better than heal slimes who are named that way because of their healing
Yeah I also didn't feel like DQ5 isn't the masterpiece that everyone said it is. It has great story but the gameplay is just okay the monster hiring mechanic seems like a really good on paper but the majority of monster just become useless because of the level cap. I'm hoping you will enjoy DQ6 as much as I did
5:11 and debura Well lemme tell ya....... shes an absolute Girlboss, bully and just rouge from sonic without the treasure hunter, agent and sonic part *AND THEN SOME*
Yes, the music is really disappointing coming from the beautifully scored IV on the NES!
Dragon Quest V AKA the one where you almost get cucked by a horse.
It is the Final Fantasy VII of the Dragon Quest series. The proof for this statement is that they're both considered the best games in their respective series by fans, sometimes even appearing side-by-side in lists (see: Famitsu Top100 from 2021), and in Itadaki Street on the PS2, Cloud gets paired up with the DQ5 Hero in the Opening cutscene.
I only played the Super Famicom version, but I intend to play the other two releases in the future. The main gripe I had with DraQue V was that there can only be 3 party members at a time. This I found rather disappointing as it meant that I'd rarely have Monsters in my party since I wanted to use Sancho and my son instead. But this is also the only version with a glitch that allows you to recruit Monsters with a 100% success rate.
One last thing I'd like to mention are the commercials. Following the theme of DraQue CM's being set in foreign countries, the DS commercial has Dutch actors and was filmed near a port in England. And in all three commercials (SFC, PS2, DS), the Hero marries Bianca. It's no wonder 95% of players chose her. Even Deborah was only added in as a joke. It's incredible how influential the concept of "two girls vying for the player character's attention, but one is more prominent than the other" was to future games.
honestly I see DQV as the FF6 of the series, people say DQ8 is the ff7 mainly because it's the first game that took the first jump into 3D
I think alot of jrpgs would find alot of use with the ability to manipulate the music via some sort of juke box option. Really loved dq5 but i actually enjoyed 4 more. Good stuff as usual skeleton.
Ps: i married deborah andnto my recollection it makes the kids much stronger in terms of physical strenght. That and her conversstions are actually more interesting and less predictive, especially towards the end of the game she really starts enjoying the MC more
I've been told my many that Deborah is the true secret boss of wives in that game. Should I ever play again, I'll have to give her a go
@@ASkeleton dude she really feels like it because her lines are super unique and she's kind of a dick so it's interesting what you get. Whenever you do the party chat you always get something interesting when it comes to her.
Impatiently waiting for you to do DQ6, as we discussed before how it's a game I personally hold very dear
I thought that was 9?
@A Skeleton oh God not me having to dig the case out to look, but you are correct, it is indeed 9
@@ASkeleton good luck with 6, it's regarded as being the black sheep of the series and is a bit dvisive, usually the ones that like vi aren't too fond of V, i for one like voth but like V a little more. it kind of has the opposite problem where vi gives you so many spells and abilties and can be pretty entertaining in fights but the story feels like it just falls asleep in the midpoint of the game that you get lost on where your actually supposed to go
@Nightfall It also has an structure and progression that; how do I put this, it looked like it tries to combined the Light & Dark World aspect from Zelda: Link to the Past/Link Between Worlds with the Time Traveling gimmick from Chrono Trigger and side quest from Majora's Mask with 3 day cycled. However not only was it very underwhelming, but it's also overbloated that lost going through all that takes forever and doesn't utilized them well to the plot that's happening. It's not an long game. But it felt like it takes forever to get on where u wanted to go.
The fact that they are on iOS is a godsend
I love Dragon Quest V but always end up playing it the same way. I always end up choosing Nera because like her the most.
My choice list:
1. Nera
2. Deborah
3. Bianca (sorry Bianca fans)
Nera is absolute waifu mode and Deborah's story is actually pretty sweet, she softens up once you have kids.
And Bianca? Well... I honestly think of Bianca more as either a best friend or a sister that I never had, so I don't usually pick her. I'm not into that childhood friend trope.
Final Fantasy has always been so much more engaging, it's kinda insane.
Cool video 😮 subbed!
11:20 I want to try making videos off of the first trilogy and I can agree that playing another DQ game right after finishing one is not the best way to do it.
Heck, I took a few months before playing DQ2 (which I’m still working on) and I am already getting tired of playing it despite being fairly close to the end, I think.
A Skeleton, have you considered reviewing "BoneRaiser Minions"?
I thought it may be a game that would fit your aesthetic, it isn't quite a shmup....
It is more of a bullet heaven, and it is not very expensive on Steam.
I should just go ahead and make a quick video about that so people will quit asking if I've played it. Haha
@@ASkeleton I hope you enjoy it, I have fun with that game every now and then.
Hmm...
Bianca vs Nera vs Debora.
Bianca actually has the higher HP/MP between her and Nera. Her stats are slightly more favourable early on compared to Nera (at least through level 20), however Nera has FAR higher Strength and higher Resilience in the end and they even out around 20 and then go their separate ways. Plus Nera has a better spell tree (she gets Kaboom and starts with Midheal). Bianca has no special spell that makes her stand out.
Debora on the other hand, is the trophy wife when it comes to stats and equipment. She has Bianca's HP, Nera's Strength, and the highest Resilience stat of the three. She even starts out stronger than the other two, nevermind her level 99 stats. However Debora's armour selection is vastly reduced, especially in Shields (she has ONE, though it does have 1 def more than the Scale shield the other two are stuck with...however her resistance armour options are limited by comparison). She makes up for this by having access to all double hit weapons (the extras being additions specific to her), the Hela's Hammer (so she's a metal destroyer), and several swords and claws that make her far more useful as a physical attacker due to having on-hit status effects (sleep from the Dream Blade, poison from the Cobra Claws).
However Debora's spell tree is abysmal by comparison. She doesn't have several useful spells both Bianca and Nera have, no Kafrizzle, and unlike her sister, no Kaboom. She just gets Kasizzle.
Debora's party chat is also very unique and quite fun, and she goes through the most radical change of the three in the 3rd generation. Though she's not like Nera who literally wants to get into her husband's pants 24/7. Nera is a sex fiend. Nor is she as into spooning and reminiscing as with Bianca's chat. However she does develop appreciation and respect for her husband.
I have a feeling you'll be one of the few to really get into DQ6. Maybe not 7 given just how long it is and all the forced returns to old haunts, which would have been made much smoother had there been 1. new dungeons in the present for most of them, and 2. zoom works in the past and carries over into the present so you aren't forced to get on the ship each time. Though the class system in 7 might be more interesting for you given options...I hope you prebought at least a digital copy of 7 on 3DS prior to the store shutting down, as it's going to become very expensive for the next 6 months, maybe 1 year...small chance for a bit longer.
Though I will say that the general themes in 6 and 7 are better suited to long-term play, though you'll hit that same wall that most of us have felt for years...ONE THEME throughout for the regular battles. God I wish Sugiyama were asked to make more general battle and overworld themes after certain scenarios/situations happen. At least in 7 you'll have three overworld themes that swap out...there's present, past before beating the bosses, and past after beating the bosses.
I didn't pick my wife based on stats. Lol. But thanks for the comment. It was a good read.
@@ASkeleton speaking of the wives, there is this misconception regarding bianca that I notice, mainly people claim she is the canon one which there isn't actual evidence in-game or even spin offs like heroes (both of which are portrayed the night before the wedding) that even imply it (heck the movie near the end is straight up "this isn't canon"). it's also kind of funny how in the original SFC version Bianca's fate was dark and that knowledge sunked in the remakes (hence hearing things like Bianca becoming a bar maid) which in ps2 and ds they removed it and instead it becomes laughably anti-climatic namely her dad where they make it seem like he is about to die only to be completely ok afterwards regardless who you choose it's the most blatant guilt trip I have ever seen
@@nightfall3442 You say misconception, then go on the argue in the game, not just the movie, why she is in fact the canon wife. The guilt trip correlated to her history with the Hero and how much time she spent with him (weeks is implied for the ghost castle and meets him twice over a period of what is meant to be 6 months).
Then there's the fact that in the original game you never meet Nera until entering her father's town for the first time. They only added in that scene in the DS to help give some connection and reduce the guilt over Bianca.
You're also supposed to pick up your old friend Saber using Bianca's Ribbon just after having helped Harry get in good with Maria whom you know he's in love with (and saving his brother, and restoring his position in the court). This is meant to tie you to the idea of relationships just after Harry can finally pursue his love. Which ends up in a marriage you get invited to in the very next town (after having learned Zoom anyhow).
So you're already walking into Briscotelli's place with having just witnessed a Marriage of your best friend, and the last tie-in for your own life and love was using Bianca's Ribbon.
Nevermind the dialogue Bianca has in the Water Cave, what her father says to you BEFORE you speak to her, and just after. That heavily indicates how she's put off marriage proposals from many men because she wants you specifically and cannot think of anyone else to settle with. That she's always thought about you and talked about you...blah blah blah. Then there's the DS party chat which only further cuts your heart out for letting her go (which is probably why they toned down what happens to her if you don't pick her in the DS since they doubled down on the lead-in with the extra dialogue.
EDIT: Lest I forget the added dialogue related to Crispin and his devotion to Nera. Plus Nera's hidden feelings for him they added to the NPC chatter. So you feel like a total asshole in denying him the love of his life. Though at least how it's phrased in the DS (maybe it's the localization), they do tamp down Nera's feelings as more platonic with potential for more.
@@ASkeleton You are quite welcome. I hope you read my second post/response to this one. I do think you'll find the next two easier to handle as though the themes do repeat a lot...dear lord I don't get why Horii didn't push for more individual theme swaps from Sugiyama later on (maybe out of respect for his age and experience in the entertainment industry?). I do feel the themes are more tolerable and more enjoyable on repeat and loop.
Beyond hilarious review
Hmm, I disagree with almost everything you brought up about this game. I'll have to replay it and maybe write down my own thoughts.
I actually played this game when i was 8-10 on the DS and always searched for a german copy, but these are sadly quite expensive so rom it (sadly) is.
Never feel bad for emulation being the only viable option.
Loving the videos keep it up!
I actually like the final boss of V, it's eerie but you get that dark powerful presence forboding the atmosphere chanting at you at your inevitable demise as the final challenge, they also play this theme for the estark fight and it does stick out a bit more least to my expereince as Estark is a powerful being and him fighting you is a test if you can outdo the lord of the underworld
1:28 also in the movie version instead of nimzo you have a virus version of nimzo who i call nimzo dot virus who was made by a disgruntled dev when making the vr remake of dq V (spoilers)
no way this guy said Persona has better stories than DQV, was he drunk?
He’s dead wrong but u can’t sleep on persona eother
Man, what happend to used game prices?!
You could've just recruit an orc with a multiheal and full heal which is much easier instead of the king cureslime, finding a king cureslime is stupid just get an orc, I love DQV and I didn't find it boring, I played it and enjoyed it more than dqxi in some parts because it was shorter and had the better story out of every dragon quest imo, I think the highs outway the lows by a lot, the game had me hooked through out all of it which is something the first, second, third and fourth games had hard times to do(although four is my third favourite). The complains with the battle system was not appropriate cuz every dragon quest game I have played was an "oomph kasap fest" imo even dqiv had this and dqxi had this and trying another way of fighting bosses would led to a fail. The music didn't bored me and I have to say but in the end of dqiv I got tired of hearing the overworld music.
I like slimes a lot more than orcs.
Random question: where did you get your skeleton? (not that one, the other one)
John Karel, or JJJJJohn. There's a link to his instagram in the description of all my videos.
@@ASkeleton Ah neat
I really liked your comments on DQ5, I can relate a lot. Before I played it I had waayyy too high expectations because of how praised the game is by everyone in the community, so I played it convinced that this was going to be the best RPG that I would ever play. Wasn't the case at all, I actually had to force myself to get to the end trying to deny how boring the game was feeling to me. My problem was the combat, which is, for me, the most important aspect for an rpg to be enjoyable; I was so disappointed of how flat the combat was, as you mention, you can defeat every single boss with the same strategy, the game doesn't allow any type of creative or personal way of combat at all, the only thing the game expects from you is to put the time to level up enough so you can beat the boss with the same flat strategy over and over again. That's not a challenge, it's just wasting a lot of your time in a boring non-thinking process of smashing the A button non stop.
But yeah, it's just because I'm judging it by today standards, back in the day was more than revolutionary and inspired the pokemon mechanics, which I like a lot more
I love the Movie The Bahamoose superboss is a fun Time that's why I always married Nera.
It's funny how this is considered one of the best.
6 is considered one of the worst :D
All that work for a healer? Just buy potions and, get this, actually use them!
More Bone Zone. Also I find it funny that all these games are basically unplayable for me because I hate turn based games. LOL
Git gud
@@thatidiot5267 No u >:(
there is always the heroes games
@@nightfall3442 I do like me some action games lol
I disagree with your problems with this game, this game is a masterpiece, L plus ratio. (at least you tried the game lol)
taking all of your criticisms into account made me realize that you are wrong and DQ5 is kami-sama tier.
"Bad apple, Touhou Reference"
Touhou Fans learn about an expression of speech that's been around for ages before their little girl bullet hell game
triditional shouldint become an ecxuse to avoid inovation, thats something pokemon fans have let gamefreak get away with far too long, lazy deisgn labled triditional.
Oh you said nobody uses hocus pocus y do all the time and somehow some way beat the final boss using it and even beat extra bosses in DQ4 lol its fun but please dont do this to yourself