Sabre vs. Highland Broadsword [HEMA]

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2021
  • This is a clip from last Thursday of Max (left) and me (right) doing some low to medium intensity fencing with the sabre and the broadsword.
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Комментарии • 52

  • @jonc4050
    @jonc4050 3 года назад +52

    I like how they did this video, no music, slowing down moments when hits are made, and all around quality of the bout

  • @wodenpwn
    @wodenpwn 3 года назад +21

    Thank you for not putting loud music over the lovely clang of swords.

  • @dylanduke9963
    @dylanduke9963 3 года назад +13

    Very cool
    There's something almost like ASMR about this haha

  • @bockskarr6626
    @bockskarr6626 3 года назад +6

    Really enjoy your content!! Definitely putting the work in guys be proud!!

  • @jasonjames9836
    @jasonjames9836 3 года назад +7

    Glad to see you posting something new and that you are getting more sparring time. Peter, your form looks great in terms of stance and movement; really looked good (I'm jealous). Questions for Max: do you like your Infinity Gloves? What sabre are you using that the Infinity Gloves fit in? Can you put your thumb on the grip like an Olympic style sabre grip? or is there not enough room with the gloves? Cheers to you both for a great match.

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  3 года назад +3

      Thank you, definitely enjoying the increased sparring time atm!

    • @Vatoeter
      @Vatoeter 3 года назад +6

      I do like the Infinity Gloves very much, the offer a great compromise between mobility and protection. I can also use them for a variety of weapons (sabre, longsword, sidesword, staff) which was one of the reasons why i bought them.
      I am using a Blackfencer three-bar infantry sabre, but i tried them with various other sabres from my club and i could fit into most of them. (But i do have very small hands, so people with large hands might struggle more)
      I am not 100% sure with the thumb up grip, because I dont really use it, but i think it can be done quite well.

  • @TyLarson
    @TyLarson 3 года назад +4

    Good looking fencing.

  • @Druid_Ignacy
    @Druid_Ignacy 2 года назад +3

    Nice military form. Would you like any feedback, consider bigger caution and being more active in distance menagement, to prevent being punished by someone more explosive :)

  • @yolloswronson9063
    @yolloswronson9063 3 года назад +4

    I really missed your videos, the sparring footage is crisp and it is both informative and entertaining (studying military sabre myself and this is always nice as a comparison). Do you know which sabre is Max using, by any chance? Thanks in advance!

    • @Vatoeter
      @Vatoeter 3 года назад +3

      It's a blackfencer infantry Sabre. The three bar hilted version

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  3 года назад +1

      Thanks, glad you like it!

  • @FedericoMalagutti
    @FedericoMalagutti 3 года назад +2

    Nice sparring session! Some nice exchanges ;-)

  • @jgttx
    @jgttx 3 года назад +5

    I was surprised at the number of #3 cuts the saber could get in. Nice classic looking bout. Is there a particular manual that you were drawing your techniques from? The broadsword player looked like he stepped out of Christopher Thompson's book. Nice hanger guard and retreating front step. But those #3 cuts from the saber player...damn those were slick!

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  3 года назад +5

      Yeah those #3s by Max with the sabre were quite successful. As for you question, I'm the right guy and I focus on Roworth, whose system very much focused on slipping the lead leg on the parry.

    • @Vatoeter
      @Vatoeter 3 года назад +4

      And here I am always struggling with my #3's and #4's. So thanks for that :D (I'm the sabre :D)

  • @Marcus_McCormick11
    @Marcus_McCormick11 3 года назад +5

    Some excellent exchanges here.
    How do you find the basket hilt compares to a more "traditional" sabre?

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  3 года назад +7

      Thanks, I'm a fan of basket hilts. Due to the concentrated mass around the wrist, you can make pretty fast rotating cuts. Protection is great too, of course. The downside is that it's often heavier than an infantry sabre, which means your arm wil tire a bit sooner, if you're not used to it.

  • @gregjones7724
    @gregjones7724 Год назад +1

    Surprised at how much the broad sword flexed upon contact.

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  Год назад +1

      Yeah, it's a safe modern HEMA blade. It's quite flexible but not flimsy at all.

  • @jacl2778
    @jacl2778 3 года назад +3

    Nice bout guys.

  • @nawm8
    @nawm8 2 года назад +1

    Hey! Lovely vid, broadswords and sabres are always wonderful.
    I was wondering, what jacket is Max wearing? The color's great.
    Take care!

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  2 года назад +1

      Hey David, thanks for the nice comment!
      Max and I are wearing basically the same jacket. It's the SPES officer 350N, his green model is a standard size and mine is a custom size.
      Cheers!

    • @nawm8
      @nawm8 2 года назад +1

      @@historyandsabre Aww, thank you! I wasn't sure this'd be seen as it's an older video. I really appreciate the comment; I was eyeing up the SPES officer, so knowing it can come in that tone only gives it more points hahaha.
      Also, go team Roworth!

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  2 года назад

      @@nawm8 No worries, you're welcome!
      I'd say the 350N officer is still worth it and they're still making them. I love that jacket.
      However, the AP light, both 350 and 800N, aswell as the newer 800N officer are also worth considering.

  • @nickosimbajon8314
    @nickosimbajon8314 2 года назад +1

    beautiful dance

  • @ucfj
    @ucfj 9 месяцев назад

    Seems to me sabre has nicer/faster counter-attacks in this exchange (see eg 1:22). I wonder if that's related to the fact the blade is curved

  • @caldoesstuff7290
    @caldoesstuff7290 3 года назад +1

    What type of gloves are you using? I’ve got some Red dragons but I find they doesn’t always fit.

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  3 года назад +1

      Hi, I use very light airsoft / paintball gloves when I'm fencing with the basket hilt. That leaves the wrist somewhat exposed, which is always a risk.
      For more open hilts, I always use Red Dragons.

  • @victorfelixcolonnunez7486
    @victorfelixcolonnunez7486 3 года назад +2

    Hi, what practice sabre is your partner using?

    • @Vatoeter
      @Vatoeter 3 года назад +1

      It's a blackfencer infantry Sabre. Three bar hilted version

  • @BS-bd5uq
    @BS-bd5uq 2 года назад +1

    I really like basket hilts, but their mass often make my shoulder tire so quickly

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  2 года назад

      Yep, it's no different for me when I don't get to train for more than two weeks!

  • @user-mx1nf5rf5y
    @user-mx1nf5rf5y 2 года назад +1

    What type of sabers do you use?

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  2 года назад

      Blackfencer 1796 infantry sabre with three-bar-hilt and a basket-hilted broadsword by Armour Class.

  • @HungarianWarHorse
    @HungarianWarHorse 2 года назад

    Cool

  • @jamiesnack
    @jamiesnack 2 года назад +1

    whats a good book to start with sabers? there’s no real saber school near me

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  2 года назад +1

      For English language sabre manuals I'll recommend Roworth's "The Art of Defence on Foot" as it's what I work from. You could also start with Mathewson, for instance
      If you're interested in later 19th century stuff, Hutton's "The Swordsman" and Waite's "Lessons in Sabre" are also great!
      Cheers.

    • @jamiesnack
      @jamiesnack 2 года назад

      @@historyandsabre
      Have you read Fighting with Edge and Point or German Sabre of the Berliner Turnschule? Those are the two I was able to find and order with my trainers, and some say it is good, but what would be your opinion?

  • @Ravenblues
    @Ravenblues Год назад

    Not fair for the sabre user tbh, broadsword has more attack angles and longer reach, getting hits in was an impressive feat

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  Год назад

      Hi, how does it have more attack angles? We are using the same system. Cheers!

    • @Ravenblues
      @Ravenblues Год назад

      @@historyandsabre sabre is single edged broadsword is double edged, that makes a difference, unless this is a backsword

    • @historyandsabre
      @historyandsabre  Год назад

      @@Ravenblues Fair point.