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'Joe Biden's decline will deliver Donald Trump': A James O'Brien analysis | LBC
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- As more and more call for Joe Biden to pull out of the 2024 presidential race, James O'Brien tries to fathom 'how Joe Biden's stuttering could push people into the hands of the repeated sex-offender Donald Trump'.
James O'Brien gives this analogy: 'It's like if someone stood against Hitler with a decent chance of winning, and there would have been a significant amount of the population saying they aren't going to vote for Hitler, and then the other guy falls over or eats a bacon sandwich badly, and then they all say 'oh, actually I am going to vote for Hitler.''
Movie star and lifelong Democrat George Clooney is the latest to have added his voice to calls for Joe Biden to leave the 2024 presidential race.
The actor said in a New York Times opinion piece that he loves President Biden but the party would lose the presidential race as well as any control in Congress with him as the nominee.
The President has insisted he is staying in the race and even challenged Democrat 'elites' to challenge him at the party's convention in August.
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He absolutely has to give way for someone younger.
It's not hyperbole to say the entire Western World hangs in the balance.
Surely he cannot do any worse than Biden and Blair? globalists engineer recent wars it seems.
Are you having a laugh. He's failed in Ukraine Afghanistan and now Gaza. If Trump was in power none of those wars would be taking place.
It isn’t that simple the polls don’t show that likely replacements would be doing better then him
Ok talk me through what happens when Trump wins...to prove your weird claim
Thats actually the best example of hyperbole ive seen in a long time.
I still can't get my head around the fact these 2 candidates are the best they have from a population of 300 million.
Makes sense when you understand how the US political system operates. Of course, us Yanks have trouble understanding how Britain could vote for Brexit and Boris Johnson.
Yes it is pretty amazing.
That’s the sad state of US politics with Trump and Biden being the “best” they have.
The better candidates are all too busy getting loaded.
Yes agreed... but the same applies to the likes of truss, Johnson, Sunak, corbyn being the best the UK could come up with
I laughed out loud at the idea of a tin of rice pudding as prime minister
Well we just elected a custard cream as PM, so reality is close enough
Our current PM is a room-temp, unseasoned block of tofu in wallpaper paste. Couldn't be more unappealing if he tried.
@@johnny2501and yet the Custard Cream has done more than the Cream crackers that were in charge for 14 years.
Our current PM is already off on a jolly to speak to some geriatric 😂
Lettuce spray!
I am72. I do not have dementia. I write and record songs using complicated computer programs...BUT....sometimes I forget words. I forget names. I now walk with a stick and often fall asleep in the afternoon. Even at my (relatively) young age I would be a liability as leader of the free world. And if Biden wins he will still be in the job 4 years later and be 4 years older. That is worrying and even more worrying is that his candidteship will lead to the return of the worst President in history.
My Grandfather was 95 when he died. He was more lucid than Biden appeared and he had so much energy he involved himself in local politics and park engineering as a hobby. he would intricately explain things without stumbling over words, forgetting things or names or anything like that.
People age differently, an 80 year old *can* be a leader. but Biden seems ill-suited to it.
And yet there are people 10 years older than you who have none of those issues
@@nonyabisness6306 The only way we know if he's suited for it is by looking at his results, which have been excellent. You're voting for an administration--the team of people that he picked to execute policies. If he cannot continue next term, Harris would step up at that point and take over. This is a complete nothing burger.
@@JEQvideos uh. no.
first of all his cabinet isn't running. he is.
secondly no one should be fine running a president expecting to have to 25th amendment the guy.
all we need to know if he's suited, he's allready shown us. he isn't fit to run.
his cabinet, which you seem to be such a fan of can work for another candidate as well. he isn't needed then is he.
I get the impression that its not actually the POTUS making all the decisions (he is just the shop window in a way) but his advisors. Trumps advisors are very very nasty. I know which gang I would prefer if i could vote.
This is precisely where I am as well as an American. I geniunely wish Biden would have passed on the torch to Harris. As someone who is a carer and is very familiar with dementia, I don't think he has it... hes just really old and is getting frail.
Which isn't great admittedly. But given Trump is the other choice I'd vote for a corpse over him too.
He probably doesn't have Dementia. But he clearly is impaired and that never gets any better.
The Debate performance was after having an entire week to prep for it. If he still comes across like that after a week of free time, he needs to go.
@@nonyabisness6306 This is the core problem with Biden. And if I was American I'd vote for him regardless with Trump as the alternative. His age should have meant that he and his team exercised better judgement about the debate. Get rest beforehand. Make it clear he had a cold (if he had one) before the debate. Prep Biden with soundbites, not facts & figures. Develop effective tactics for Trump. None of this appeared to have been done. Which raises further questions about how his team are dealing with wider matters, or if Biden is over-ruling them. None of this is satisfactory and all of it is worrying.
harris cant speak publicly either tho. maybe someone else is needed? i think bernie would win easily.
Agreed, Biden is old and getting frail. Nothing else.
@@kanedNunable Bernie is older than Joe, FWIW.
I like Joe Biden on a personal level but I'm convinced both he and criminal Trump are both too old to to run for President and leader of the freeworid
Regardless of what convinces you, at least one of them IS running for president, and if Biden drops out, then Trump will probably win. And the "free world" will be less free. All this talk of age should be a consideration, but it really should be secondary to the fact that Trump is a convicted felon who admires dictators around the world and has no respect for all the other leaders throughout the "free world". Biden should be judged by the past four years, not a disastrous TV debate with a pathological liar / bully / conman / criminal who wants to be a dictator "on day one". Twelve months from now, perhaps my green card could be revoked for this kind of comment. And age is your concern?
you realize they don't actually run anything right? Woodrow Wilson spent his last years basically unresponsive
It’s ridiculous. It’s turned into Biddy Wars 😮
What is it about Joe Biden you like? Genuinely curious.
@@Brynson87 Genuinely? Please, let’s be generous now 😊
It is still an easy choice: an aging president who deserves to retire.
Or the worst former president in recorded history. A malignant criminal.
Dodderiness? ...... replace with 'lacking capacity'. This applies to both contestants. Yet here we are.
Ultimately it's down to the donors and/or oligarchs.
It doesn’t necessarily push them into the arms of Trump, but it surely doesn’t motivate them to go out and vote for Joe Biden either
It all depends on how big a danger people recognize Trump as being
Ppl did not vote for Biden in 2020. They voted against trump. The same will happen this year.
Read up about Project 2025. Clooney is a rich white actor that lives in another country. If Trump wins, he is not going to suffer. The people that are directly targeted by Trump's policies, minorities, women, LGBTQ, etc. are highly motivated to vote against Trump and far less likely to be reflected in the polls.
@@TinaBUTCHER-ph1ph Trump IS dangerous!
A man's got to know his limitations, and so does his wife 😬
Where's Melania?
I think the western world would love rice pudding right now,,,
How can he not know that he's too old .
Biden will always make a better president than trump but so would rice pudding %.
people closest to him tell him so.
trump will be older than him if he wins and serves his 4 years...
You are as old as you believe you are.
They are always the last to know. It's sad but true.
Most people didn't watch the debate (only 50 million out of 150 million voters watched the debate). Those that DID watch the debate actually didn't interpret Biden's performance the way the media did. And this is where the crux of the problem lies.The media has been pounding the drum since the night of the debate. Breathless articles and commentary, repeated questioning of everyone who comes on the air, and the incessant coverage about getting Biden off the ticket has dominated the conversation. Rather than talking about Trump's obvious mental decline, lies, and danger to democracy commentators, paid pundits, and "well meaning" journalists have just fed into the panic, clickbait mentality, and horserace framing of the narrative. Democrats, who are always worrying about their moral purity, have played into this narrative, and we have a repeat of 2016 and Hilary's emails. If Biden loses, it won't be because of him, it will be because we engaged in yet another circular firing squad.
No. It will be due to Bidens dementia, ego, stubbornness and his family pushing him .
Americans are way too hyper focused on having a loud and proud and charismatic leader. They want to see strength projected at any cost, even their own souls in code of ethics
Because unfortunately Americans seem to vote on personality rather than politics itself regardless of the truth.
It makes sense because most people are not as left leaning. This isn’t about the fact that I too would rather have a run of rice pudding than Donald trump, the problem is that many American voters don’t feel the same unfortunately.
Bit of a weird take given the election we just had over here where, apparently "Labour didn't win, the Tories lost." What makes you think the situation in the US is that much different? Most democratic voters would vote Democrat even if they had a Capybara as a leader at this point. Biden needs to sway independent voters, sure, but the election is still far away and the choice between the two parties is so distinct that it supercedes the small matter of who the figurehead is. Biden's debate performance probably wouldnt have mattered in the grand scheme of things until it started getting constantly talked about in the media.
Yes but this is not America!
@@hanselmansell7555it's a moot point this time around
Trump is already leading hard in the polls before the debate, the debate made it that much worse. Campaigning is hard work, and biden is simply too old to manage it.
The Tories didn't lose the election from opposition or in the campaign arena though, they lost it as an incumbent administration with fourteen years of uninterrupted failure fresh in everyone's minds, whereas America has had four years to forget exactly how bad Trump was. Four years shouldn't be long enough to totally forget stuff like that but, unfortunately for democracy, for a lot of people it is.
Unfortunately The Media includes a couple of billion people with Internet access, many of whom watched the "debate" online. There is no downplaying it.
I wasn't thinking that, I was thinking "... is there a pudding party in Canada? Do they run in my riding? Should I run for them?"
The title of this video has occurred to me too. The ironic thing is that part of his appeal to the Democrats in 2020 was that he was polling as the Democrat best-placed to beat Trump. That now seems to have reversed.
I thought his plan in 2020 would be to serve a term and then hand it on. He's had a great career and could continue to be influential from the sidelines in an advisory role but it's not the sort of job you want to tarry too long in. Your pluses can become minuses and you don't want to be analysing an election loss afterwards and seeing that.
Bernie would have beat Trump if the party machine didnt collude to oust him. The democrats can cry all they want now they will get what they deserve
They just need to replace him. It’s not nice, but it may save democracy!!
One has to wonder if the US Democrats are actively working to bring back the Donald.
The centrist last century liberals fear the left of their party more than Trump. Liberals almost always side with fascists over the left.
The media certainly are.
Blooming heck, I actually agree with James O'Brien, first time for everything.But in all seriousness the Democrats need to sort this out and sort it quickly.
This evening, I find myself craving rice pudding for dessert. There’s something about the creamy texture and comforting flavor that just sounds perfect right now. Maybe it’s the hint of cinnamon or the sweetness that makes it so appealing. I can already imagine enjoying a warm bowl, perhaps with a sprinkle of nutmeg on top. It’s not something I have often, which makes it feel even more special tonight. So, instead of the usual choices, rice pudding it is. I can hardly wait to savor every delicious spoonful of this classic dessert.
Now I'm hungry for some rice pudding.
Biden was like this when he won the vote, he was either rambling or saying things like "if you don't vote for me, you ain't black" so this is nothing new, it almost makes me happy about the state of UK politics looking at the state of theirs, those two are really the best they've got?
Indeed, Biden has a speech impediment and has never been articulate and has a long history of sticking his foot in his mouth. This is very true.
Is that why his main base is black women?
did you not see who the last 3 prime ministers were?
@SkipFrontzJr haven't got a clue, but I can't believe he got away with saying it, imagine if Trump said that, it would be on repeat over here
@neonwired4978 yeah, they pushed it to the wire and tried their best, but Biden needs full time care and Trump has all manner of problems, so I'd still take it as a win/could be worse
Rice Pudding, absolutely 100 %
What would happen if Biden were replaced less than four months before 5th of November? Does anyone in all earnestness imagine a smooth ride towards the election? No in-fighting whatsoever among the Dems? Does anyone really think that voters would be attracted to that mess? I'd love to know whether George Clooney has a convincing answer to that.
And isn't that comparison between the situations in Germany in 1933 and the USA today faulty. Among other differences, social media of the kind we have today weren't available back then.
You lose the incumbency and that's the worst thing you can do.
Britain held an election and had a change of Government within 6 weeks. France even less so. November is still a long way away. It could work in theory.
But it depends on whether the Democrats are willing to acknowledge reality.
@@SkipFrontzJr
Republicans are preparing lawsuits in case Biden drops out right now.
@@PinstripeShirt
I don't think you can compare these countries that easily.
FFS what is going on, this has been evident for ages. You're letting Trump back in. Why isn't someone telling him what's happening. I can't believe we are still behaving like this in the 21st century.
George got it right.
But why shouldn’t Biden have stepped down? Don’t his cohorts tell him he is doddering? Or does he choose not to listen?
Because energy/ strength 'trumps' policy. First and foremost, a president has to project strength.
Clooney is a rather impressive person.
Drain that swamp....time to go O Bean.
I would also like to add that the environment for information bubbles, silos and echo chambers in the US is very fertile. For example, right after watching this clip on RUclips, and ad featuring Donald Trump Jr. popped on my screen. I of course being from New York developed an immunity to DTS a long time ago, the rest of the county did not get their inoculations in time.
Rice pudding? Grow up O'Brien.
To be fair if rice pudding could talk you'd be off the air...
I do love the idea that "he's too old" is a reason to vote for Trump instead? No. There's so many reasons for the Americans NOT to vote for Trump. If the alternative is "too old"... does that mean you vote for the lunatic?! You don't vote at all and let the lunatic win?!
You are working under the assumption that citizens cast their vote following a rational train of though. Nothing could be further from the truth.
🤣
11 m over the border is what sinks him
Joe could be 'Weekend at Bernies, and i would still vote for him over Trump.
michelle obama....the batsign is lit, please come and serve your country.
And her credentials are what..
@@kevinwilliams1421 welcome to planet earth, she has 8 years of presidential experience and consistently polls 6 points higher than either of the current runners.
Not to forget his wife, who he definitely consulted before he wrote this.
We are, as a people, entangled in complex social game in which division, survival and dominance are the tenets. You vote not for what is right, but what offers the most strength and support to the "people like you"... Trump is a chameleon.
The other irony in this is that Trump is not far behind Biden in his own decline, but his journey to ranting incoherence seems to be more likely to be associated with an actual condition.
I too think Trump is really too old but his coherence, his energy and his grasp of facts and speed of response are impressive for a man his age and this was abundantly clear at the debate, even to a moderate
George Clooney is a typical actor. Stop the nonsense.
Explain
@@atmosphericfloatything2472 no need JOB lover
@@pipins3616 mature
Nothing is typical about actors.
@@atmosphericfloatything2472 true true
The Stump has entered the building
No way hoesay George is bored maybe ocean's 0.000002 .😂
BIDEN 2024 all the way!!!! He knocked it out of the ballpark last night in Michigan. No Movie Star, No TV or Radio Commentator, no Elite Financial Contributor will shake the PEOPLE who have voted for Joe to be the Democratic Candidate for re-election. ENOUGH of all this media noise - BIDEN/HARRIS 2024 by the people! 💙💙
It's more like is he going to live for 4 more years and they're saying I won't vote not flip Joe I'll go for Trump
I was giving the valedictorian 's address and I made a huge gaffe at the beginning of my speech , mixing up my former and then school. I was sixteen years old!
VOTE BIDEN! VOTE BLUE!
In the last week, Biden has said he was the first black woman, said Trump is his VP and said the President of Ukraine is Putin. This is SINCE the debate. 😂😂
Stop the gaslighting. You're just proving there's no difference between right and neoliberal "left".
No one talks about trumps cognitive decline in addition to his convictions
I think the difference is we’ve been aware of Trump’s cognitive decline and criminal actions for 10+ years.
He has none
He has to go but there is nobody to replace him.
Don’t be ridiculous
@@jamesm9995 Who can replace him?
@@darlik1 Someone needs to replace O'brien. He is a busted flush now.
@@darlik1there are tonnes of people who can replace him. The problem is Joe was handpicked as a reward to his loyalty by the party elites despite him being very unpopular compared to Sanders. They bulldozed other candidates using their power over the media and propped him up as the viable candidate. Now the chickens have come home to roost.
I simply luv rice pudding 😄🤣💯💯👍🏽👍🏽
Flying my colours up front, I would rather anybody or thing than Trump, but in order to beat the orange oaf the Democrats have to replace Biden.
A tin of rice pudding is not an option. Biden or Trump. Vote for one of them or don't vote. If you had to pick one as a babysitter who would you pick. There's your answer.
That no one in the US, has the guts to stand up instead of the two old men, is a mystery.
Point taken Mr. O.
Whether or not Biden has a permanent cognitive issue or not is irrelevant. He has sowed seeds of doubt and that will not go away. He really needs to retire. “There’s no fool like an old fool..”. (I’m not so young myself.)
An important thing to remember is that a lot of people do prefer Donald Trump because the politics of spite are incredibly powerful, and there are a lot of people who will actively vote to hurt themselves if it also hurts someone they disapprove of.
It's been happening in the USA for decades, back to the '50s and '60s where municipal pools were all closed because white people would prefer they didn't exist at all than share them with black people when they were forced by law to desegregate. It's why the rural poor so consistently vote against any sort of government assistance that would help them because the "undeserving" city folks would get it as well.
The extra special irony with MAGA is that it is mostly people who do actually have more to lose, because the MAGA heartland is exurban middle class tradies who moved out of the suburbs when the "wrong sort of people" moved in but still rely on everyone else having enough money to pay for a plumber or electrician or whatever they are.
Well done for once George Clooney, some common sense and truth form the left for once in their existence.
James can’t or doesn’t want to make the most obvious connection between Trump’s or Farage’s characteristics and those that vote for them
mjamm rice pudding, with fresh milk from the farm around the corner. Now I know what I will get tomorrow ^^
Because his base doesn’t care.
Donald Trumps just as doddled but it's noticed less because he isn't held to any fact based standards.
Thanks James, catching up a bit late with your views on this topic, but absolutely agree. Just an hour ago watched a Michael Steele interview on Ari Melber's programme - would recommend it to anyone who agrees with James.
It is sad that so many people seem to be doubting, when it's crystal clear. That said, American media have been absolutely vicious (re: debate, absolute hyperbole), even the left leaning channels, and though they have posed the same question as yourself, they've done it with little conviction, like they might be scared of sticking up for the guy. The agressiveness of the Trump style, has become so normalised, it would seem, that unless you are a bully, you are no longer respected in USA.
I am with joe
It's ridiculous. The Democrats should have expected this 2 years ago and someone younger and dynamic identified to succeed Biden. I'm not a political strategist but it seemed obvious that age would be a issue.
Bernie Saunders for President
You are what you eat, dress or say. Let's add another: you are who you vote for - and that is when all is said and sone, the problem. And thenthere's the radical religious problem
I think Biden should relinquish to someone younger, personally i favor Governer Whittmer in Michigan. However I dont know if there is the time and the leverage to move Biden out.
That being said i still put Biden's odds at 50-50 aginst Trump. Its my belief negative motivation will determine this election, and there are enough Americans who would vote for a scarecrow over Trump to keep this thing competitive.
Yeah.. I think it was a mistake to not have primaries and for him to not retire and take the baggage with him (earned as well as undeserved).
There is a risk in any replacement having some major past issues/poor performance aspects because none of them have been pressed that hard.
One of the weird aspects is that people will, generally, take Biden and know he probably won't serve the full term and that's fine. It's the continuance of the current form of govt and gears turning etc.
For the GOP, if Trump went away, everything would fold immediately. His cabinet was a dumpster fire last time and that was with the best people. This time it will be with the most loyal people (capability isn't a top consideration). People would suddenly have to accept that they are for those policy planks (and a lot of them don't want to do that).
I think the numbers just have to decide this. Project 2025 is a disaster. The risks after recent SC rulings is too high to hand the keys to someone like Trump. The legislature under Trump would be awful. They can barely figure out lunch time as it is. I think that "govt that at least tries to work as it should" rather than "the strongman will fix everything" likely decides the election.
Is she the one that faked a kidnapping
It will be a hard decision for Biden and Democrats to make the change but the upside of a late change is a major momentum shift. Trump knows this, which is why he is reacting to the situation right now.
I use a less flattering phrase:
"I'd vote for the corpse instead
of the incompetent dictator"
Which is very fitting currently.
Thank goodness …let’s hope Biden runs 😂😂😂.. I hope Trump wins
Joe biden had I bad night yes he's getting old but he is surrounded by competent people who do a lot of the work behind the scenes.The debate was a train wreck from all sides they were no moderates they let trump get away with all his lies .I would rather have rice pudding.
I don't get this, such little independent thought ???
James, please come across the pond and do the media rounds. Explain how the rest of the western world really feels about trump.
E only speaks for himself. Nobody else supports Bidens wars.
It's not our business ffs
As if the vast majority of the US people even considered, that there is a world existing outside their borders. Unfortunately they don't care. Many of the MAGA cult people probably don't even leave their villlage, acre of land or house.
You are discounting his main base and that's Black women who have the most to lost under Project 2025. And the people who want him to step down are not thinking about how that loses you the incumbency factor.
If only there were a black woman in the white house who could run for president.
@@FerreusNRG you DO know how the delegates process works, right?
Stop giving us bits and play this live ffs! So we can join in and ask questions and debate
It is played live. On LBC.
TRUMP 2024 🎉
Apparently barley pudding is even better. See the Backyard Chef podcasts.
We are 🖕🏽'd 🫤
Neither Biden or Trump should be standing
there's no one voting for Trump who wasn't going to already, more a matter of how many people are going to come out to vote at all...
No. His stuttering won't put Trump back in office. His ego and total unwillingness to see his unfitness for office and stand aside will. Gerentocracy has to end.
I thought Biden was a healthy shot of anaesthesia for the public after the egregiousness of Trump. But in the personality politics of the US, he's recruiting for Trump.
Rijstepap: vul uw laarzen.
Two things can be right at the same time so replace Biden and go all out to defeat the awful Trump and save the US and the World…
What 4 laws did Trump introduce in his last presidency that you object to?
@@greamespens1460 his comments about Russia doing whatever they want with Europe... that's the law he will introduce
Biden being a bit doddery isn’t an existential threat to life. A Biden White House is better than that. But Trump slithering in because voters lack confidence in Biden is an existential threat to all of us. That is the concern. Vote for Biden or get their act together and support an alternative candidate. That is the choice and time to make that choice is very limited.
Americans will not vote for weakness - "we" think it's a reflection on us. It's pathetic, but that's who we are. So with Biden on the ticket, they'll either stay home or vote for the "stronger" candidate.
Also the other candidate is also declining! There is only a 3 year age gap!
Because the average American can't understand politics unless it has the format of "Farmer Needs a Wife".
Because only 10% of the population pay interest in politics, the rest just look at the soundbites.
Do you think Keir and Trump will get along
I am torn. Arithmetic should have ensured this issue was addressed immediately Biden was elected. My only concern is that tRump does not get anywhere near being POTUS 47. If he does, a beacon will go out. It also makes me concerned that the US are completely unprepared for the bs that will fly if tRump does not win the vote.
Being better than Trump is a very low bar let's be honest there. I wish we had more parties, more choice. Always stuck with two flavors and we're sick of it all.
Raskin for president..❤
They should probably get a more vibrant character to run, Jimmy Carter maybe?
Yes, your linkage of stuttering with cognitive decline is unfortunate. Maybe you could word that better and not use a speech impediment to make your point about someone dithering and confusing words. That's not stuttering. You moved past that comment quickly by describing it simply as 'unfortunate'. I have a stutter and a PhD and I found the comment ignorant in the extreme.
Forget Clooney its Pelosi and Harris telling him to quit.
I love to make my own rice pudding, with cream and milk. I've also tried it with coconut milk and it's divine
The answer is that all that Trump is and has done is factored in. Anything he does loses its impact within a few weeks and just gets added to the pile. Even Jan 6th on the day people said ‘it’s over for Trump and even the Republican Party, they can’t come back from this ever.’ And now it’s ‘oh are people still going on about Jan 6th? Get over it it was years ago now’.