If you guys are interested in watching me start endgame I'm gonna be doing that at this video link here: ruclips.net/user/liveZx7V8CYxE4g?feature=share !!
Dude, so glad you are playing this freaking game. Loved the review, loved the streams, as a PoE creator and lover of the game, your vids are the only ones I've permitted watching. I only wish you were streaming on Twitch so I could've gifted you 4 subs for the Chimera pets. GOOD LUCK IN ENDGAME, EXILE!
You mean ANET would never sell bank space, bag slots, or character slots? Really? by the way, you can assign an "affinity" for each stash tab so that it can accept specific item types (like currency) and items you ctrl+click move there automatically.
You have played summoner class, which is known to trivialize encounters a little more than others. Additionally, you had insane numbers of energy shield for so early in the game and your damage was quite low. You were staying as far from bosses as possible most of the time while minions did their job. I suspect it's not dark soulsy for you because enemies are focusing mobs and you have very tanky build.
In regards to the difficulty discussion, that thing is that poe1 was a corpse rush game - bosses never reset their health, you could die 30 times and chip away a little each time. In the sequel you either dodge the big telegraphs or tank through or whatever or you are not killing them. That's one aspect that doesnt seem huge on paper but with the more action combat with a dodge it makes people think of dark souls.
Stash tabs are basically "after-demo fee", after EA you get 100% free game, all new content, all expansins, all of it is free. You have basic "demo" amount of stash tabs, you play for 50+ hours, and if you feel it is worth to play further you pay your base fee of approx 20$ in stash tabs. And you absolutely do not need ALL of them, you pick and choose right amount for your playstyle. So i would argue GGG did THE BEST system of f2p microtransactions for Actual f2p game.
I think this is a huge improvement over the first game for me in many areas for me as well. With more skill gems and classes yet to come it'll get even better too.
This marks yet another game youve played that you immediately get me into right after, looking forward to finishing it myself then looking back to see what kind of cool things you cooked up and thought of the story
I was so happy when I saw you were trying this out. I've been off GW2 for a few months and struggling to bring myself back to it (logging in from time to time and not feeling the urge to actually play). When I stumbled upon one of the POE2 end game presentations with Witch and minions I thought wow this feels a lot like GW1 minion bombing. So extra cool that you went with Witch. I'm in Act 3 atm and have similar thoughts to yours regarding the general experience. It's been a blast. You're brave to have chosen Blood Mage... Agreed the combat UI needs more detail, we need to know what enemy buffs and resistances are. Hope you enjoy end game, looking forward to it!
For stash tabs i guess its a combination of it being a free to play and ggg also promising that all micro transactions would transfer to poe2. I agree that ideally people would just get the stash tabs, but eh... I can also look at it as try before you buy for the game kind of deal. Also another thing that free to play games have to worry about are bots and how they can affect things... makes me wonder, is there a f2p game with an economy that doesn't put some kind of monetary bump? For campaign I quite enjoyed it and think its a huge upgrade to poe1. Click to listen is a bit dated ye, but it was not all there was... also I will replay this campaign over and over so story not being in the way is a boon in a sense. Since people like comparing it to dark souls lol, i'd say it has a much clearer and better storytelling than soul games in general :D And as for mood... yeah, I guess you ended up on the opposite side of the ratio PoE is going for ^^; PoE was always dark and murky with little bright souls shining and enduring through it all. That said, It already has little easter eggs and funny moments, especially in act3, that are even better if one knows the lore from poe1. edit: and oh yeah, was an enjoyable review. I quite liked the honest take.
There are bosses, just not on every single map. There are icons above each map that displays the special mechanic and/or if the map contains a boss. There are also higher tiers of bosses, including bosses that are entirely unique to the endgame.
Great review but complaining about the microtransactions in a free to play game is an interesting take. Would you prefer in game ads to earn a stash tab?
Regarding map size, poe1 used to have huge maps in acts 3 and 4. However, when they added acts 5-10 they explicitly made the a3-4 maps much smaller to "compensate". I expect a similar thing here, where a3 areas are huge mostly because its the end of the campaign for now.
So glad to see you cover this. I've lost alot of faith in GW2 over the last two years. But poe hits all the spots when it comes to buildcrafting. Lore deepdive, when ? 😁
The build craft possibilities makes me want to get back into gaming. Considering getting an Xbox or PlayStation to play this on… I haven’t played video games since I got rid of my gaming PC a billion years ago
I think all the “souls like” comments are because melee is a totally different experience. I levelled a monk first and ranger second. My monk was 40+ deaths and 25 hours to get to the start of cruel. My ranger had 2 deaths and took 6 hours. I did know where to go and have handmedown items in my stash to level my ranger faster but melee vs ranged gameplay is night and day difference.
Just played 2-3 days so far, mid act 2, had a lot of time in PoE1 I like a lot of what I saw. It's easier to remember the negatives so I feel like I need to preface it. 1 pain point I had, map navigation they solved yesterday, but allowing TP between waypoints, so I have a lot of faith they will iron out everything by the time it launches. My biggest problem was balance and lack of skills at start, but that's going to fix itself over time, we chose to play the EA :D My other problem right now is that bcs the game is slow and maps are bigger, there is a LOT of backtracking (partially fixed) I disagree with you on MT and few other things, but in general I can see that there is a lot of work to be done on tooltips as well. Few things I would love to see is tweaks of telegraphs, impact areas are sometimes much bigger than they seam, small on dodge (or ways to improve dodge) and better 'autopathing' when you dodge through mobs. Even with '1px hitbox' I still get stuck sooo much, and it always seams unfair, even the skill to jump over enemies doesn't do it sometimes.
Not sure I agree with your take on microtransactions, especially when you compare it to GW2's storage selling. A new GW2 account is severely restricted in bag and bank space, it's way worse than you might remember. I do agree that GGG might be a bit stingy with how much they give you for free in PoE2, knowing it'll cause friction in the future if you're gonna need a load of items. But I'm not able to judge their pricing on those aspects, having not played it myself to get a feel for them. Also it looks like you're gonna need to do a melee build next, since people are already upset about the difficulty and souls-like commentary in this video. Might be worth checking out for yourself.
Amazing feedback! The reason they "hide" all the info is because in PoE1, other 3rd party tool help them do the job, and they keept it that way in PoE2 too which is bad ... really hope they saw this video so that they add PATH OF BUILDING, into the game!
Dude! I was just thinking when I was playing last night that you would be the perfect RUclipsr to do lore deep dives on this game and PoE 1, a lot of rich narrative content to pick apart lol
Been watching your stream vods of poe2 (you usually stream when its past midnight here so I can't catch them) and I enjoyed them. Definitely would watch more of your coverage of the game. As for the game itself, I enjoy it a lot more than the first game so far. I did like the first game, but I frequently lose interest in it because of the gear gem socket issue you mentioned.
The endgame is a very different experience than the campaign. The campaign is essentially a tutorial. Commentary here about the MTX ignores the fact Path of Exile 1 & 2 are free games. And provides a 1: ratio of dollars to points and eligibility in two games.
Hang on, maybe I'm wrong since I'm a GW2 noob but myself and a friend tried it out and we couldn't even group with each other without interacting with the MT shop. We were put into different instances of the same map even though we were in a group together and when I looked up online it said I had to buy something from the shop to be able to teleport to him. Needless to say, we both stopped playing GW2 and was left with a bad taste in my mouth about how they handled MTs. GGG are giving you a complete game to play and the only thing you might need to pay for is stash tabs, technically a convivence. I don't think you can compare the two tbh.
free accounts have some limitations at first, but to join player on a different instance, right click join map. the teleport to friend is something different that allows you to port to their exact location
This is definitely a poor user experience and there is some crappy UI/tutorialisation going on, but I'm pretty sure this is just user error. "Teleport to friend" consumables (which you can buy with gems) are for actually teleporting to the exact location of someone in your party - just getting into the same map instance can be done by right-clicking their character portrait in the party UI and clicking some button that lets you transfer to that map. I think the game also generally does try to put people grouped in the same party into the same map instance, so you might have been a bit unlucky also.
You should spend mode time thinking about the stash tabs and microtransations, very bad takes. Unless you want a AAA experience for free all the way, which is delusional. Let me give you some pointers: you don't need to buy stash tabs for the campaign, so you get a free 30-40h campaign, then when you reach the endgame you might need a few for currency&trading = minimum investment (probably around 25-40$), then you want to play more that a few hundred hours well then pay a bit more for stash tabs to help the developers give you even more content to play.
All I've seen about PoE2 made me go back to give another shot to Last Epoch. Demon Form? -> Lich, Blood mage? -> Lich. I see too many things in PoE2 I did not like in PoE. I spend everybody's hype playing Last Epoch, Inquisitor Martyr and maybe Diablo IV even. All those game had great additions lately and are just fun and more friendly.
on the topic of respecing. playing normally should get you more than enough to be able to "respec", which means tweaking and figuring out your build(despite this they are reducing the cost with like 50% next patch). Not to completely change your entire character, if you want to play a completely different character then go make a different character. and for the people who went all in on a obviously completely broken build that later got patched I have zero sympathy, its no different than exploiting or bug abusing, sucks to be you.
Hard disagree with you regarding the vibe, there are plenty of "nice" games with grim elements, and barely any full on grimdark games like PoE1/2. If you want that type of game, go play torchlight or something similar, i do like that aesthetic, but it does not fit in PoE. Grimdark is at the core of PoE, and wanting it to be more vibrant/nice is directly going against their inspirations and mission statement regarding the game., will it possibly drive people away? yes, but a little bit of friction and exposing people to new types of art is worth it. I will say though that there are plenty of different biomes in the endgame that are open forests/fields/sunny beaches that you might enjoy and could give you a reprieve from the dank and dark areas.
Respecs go way up once you hit maps. I was trying to change my 2 ascendency points at lvl70. It cost 85k gold. Trying to get 85k goal while you can barely run maps was such a chore.
Honest question…could you have gone back to Act 6 (3 Cruel) and just farmed for gold? I’m only at Act 3 so a bit concerned my casual gamer self would hit a similar wall.
@@UnrealGenius I did. I just ran through the city and forge zones for 2 hours picking up every item and selling it. Recently people started doing a service where you buy a full inventory of garbage items to sell as a way to trade gold.
It's a free-to-play game. They've got to make money somehow. I don't understand what you're complaining about. I've literally never heard anyone suggest GGG was unethical before. Jesus.
Its NOT free to play. It WILL be free to play later next year but right now it cost money. 'Early access' is marketing speak for... absolutely nothing.
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If you guys are interested in watching me start endgame I'm gonna be doing that at this video link here: ruclips.net/user/liveZx7V8CYxE4g?feature=share !!
Dude, so glad you are playing this freaking game. Loved the review, loved the streams, as a PoE creator and lover of the game, your vids are the only ones I've permitted watching. I only wish you were streaming on Twitch so I could've gifted you 4 subs for the Chimera pets. GOOD LUCK IN ENDGAME, EXILE!
holy shit, this is a crossover i never expected, would you be open to have WP on a podcast to discuss a moree newbie perspective on the game?
@@qaztim11 HA! Tri would completely lose it if WP joined him. 😮
@@qaztim11 he has an open invitation, I reached out the moment I saw he was playing PoE2. He is the one who inspired me to make my RUclips channel!
You mean ANET would never sell bank space, bag slots, or character slots? Really? by the way, you can assign an "affinity" for each stash tab so that it can accept specific item types (like currency) and items you ctrl+click move there automatically.
You have played summoner class, which is known to trivialize encounters a little more than others. Additionally, you had insane numbers of energy shield for so early in the game and your damage was quite low. You were staying as far from bosses as possible most of the time while minions did their job. I suspect it's not dark soulsy for you because enemies are focusing mobs and you have very tanky build.
In regards to the difficulty discussion, that thing is that poe1 was a corpse rush game - bosses never reset their health, you could die 30 times and chip away a little each time. In the sequel you either dodge the big telegraphs or tank through or whatever or you are not killing them. That's one aspect that doesnt seem huge on paper but with the more action combat with a dodge it makes people think of dark souls.
Stash tabs are basically "after-demo fee", after EA you get 100% free game, all new content, all expansins, all of it is free. You have basic "demo" amount of stash tabs, you play for 50+ hours, and if you feel it is worth to play further you pay your base fee of approx 20$ in stash tabs. And you absolutely do not need ALL of them, you pick and choose right amount for your playstyle.
So i would argue GGG did THE BEST system of f2p microtransactions for Actual f2p game.
Re spec is really expensive at end game and GGG have already agreed and will be dropping the re spec cost by 40/50% in the next patch 👍
I think this is a huge improvement over the first game for me in many areas for me as well. With more skill gems and classes yet to come it'll get even better too.
This marks yet another game youve played that you immediately get me into right after, looking forward to finishing it myself then looking back to see what kind of cool things you cooked up and thought of the story
I was so happy when I saw you were trying this out. I've been off GW2 for a few months and struggling to bring myself back to it (logging in from time to time and not feeling the urge to actually play). When I stumbled upon one of the POE2 end game presentations with Witch and minions I thought wow this feels a lot like GW1 minion bombing. So extra cool that you went with Witch. I'm in Act 3 atm and have similar thoughts to yours regarding the general experience. It's been a blast. You're brave to have chosen Blood Mage...
Agreed the combat UI needs more detail, we need to know what enemy buffs and resistances are.
Hope you enjoy end game, looking forward to it!
For stash tabs i guess its a combination of it being a free to play and ggg also promising that all micro transactions would transfer to poe2. I agree that ideally people would just get the stash tabs, but eh... I can also look at it as try before you buy for the game kind of deal.
Also another thing that free to play games have to worry about are bots and how they can affect things... makes me wonder, is there a f2p game with an economy that doesn't put some kind of monetary bump?
For campaign I quite enjoyed it and think its a huge upgrade to poe1. Click to listen is a bit dated ye, but it was not all there was... also I will replay this campaign over and over so story not being in the way is a boon in a sense. Since people like comparing it to dark souls lol, i'd say it has a much clearer and better storytelling than soul games in general :D
And as for mood... yeah, I guess you ended up on the opposite side of the ratio PoE is going for ^^; PoE was always dark and murky with little bright souls shining and enduring through it all.
That said, It already has little easter eggs and funny moments, especially in act3, that are even better if one knows the lore from poe1.
edit: and oh yeah, was an enjoyable review. I quite liked the honest take.
There are bosses, just not on every single map.
There are icons above each map that displays the special mechanic and/or if the map contains a boss.
There are also higher tiers of bosses, including bosses that are entirely unique to the endgame.
Great review but complaining about the microtransactions in a free to play game is an interesting take. Would you prefer in game ads to earn a stash tab?
Really nice to see you do a review of the game from a newbie perspective!
Regarding map size, poe1 used to have huge maps in acts 3 and 4. However, when they added acts 5-10 they explicitly made the a3-4 maps much smaller to "compensate". I expect a similar thing here, where a3 areas are huge mostly because its the end of the campaign for now.
Can't hear omnibus without thinking of coronation street lol
So glad to see you cover this. I've lost alot of faith in GW2 over the last two years.
But poe hits all the spots when it comes to buildcrafting.
Lore deepdive, when ? 😁
The build craft possibilities makes me want to get back into gaming. Considering getting an Xbox or PlayStation to play this on… I haven’t played video games since I got rid of my gaming PC a billion years ago
I've been playing monk and have been dying quite a bit more than I expected in the campaign especially against bosses. It's pretty challenging.
I think all the “souls like” comments are because melee is a totally different experience. I levelled a monk first and ranger second. My monk was 40+ deaths and 25 hours to get to the start of cruel. My ranger had 2 deaths and took 6 hours. I did know where to go and have handmedown items in my stash to level my ranger faster but melee vs ranged gameplay is night and day difference.
Just played 2-3 days so far, mid act 2, had a lot of time in PoE1
I like a lot of what I saw. It's easier to remember the negatives so I feel like I need to preface it.
1 pain point I had, map navigation they solved yesterday, but allowing TP between waypoints, so I have a lot of faith they will iron out everything by the time it launches.
My biggest problem was balance and lack of skills at start, but that's going to fix itself over time, we chose to play the EA :D
My other problem right now is that bcs the game is slow and maps are bigger, there is a LOT of backtracking (partially fixed)
I disagree with you on MT and few other things, but in general I can see that there is a lot of work to be done on tooltips as well.
Few things I would love to see is tweaks of telegraphs, impact areas are sometimes much bigger than they seam, small on dodge (or ways to improve dodge) and better 'autopathing' when you dodge through mobs. Even with '1px hitbox' I still get stuck sooo much, and it always seams unfair, even the skill to jump over enemies doesn't do it sometimes.
Not sure I agree with your take on microtransactions, especially when you compare it to GW2's storage selling. A new GW2 account is severely restricted in bag and bank space, it's way worse than you might remember. I do agree that GGG might be a bit stingy with how much they give you for free in PoE2, knowing it'll cause friction in the future if you're gonna need a load of items. But I'm not able to judge their pricing on those aspects, having not played it myself to get a feel for them.
Also it looks like you're gonna need to do a melee build next, since people are already upset about the difficulty and souls-like commentary in this video. Might be worth checking out for yourself.
Amazing feedback! The reason they "hide" all the info is because in PoE1, other 3rd party tool help them do the job, and they keept it that way in PoE2 too which is bad ... really hope they saw this video so that they add PATH OF BUILDING, into the game!
Dude! I was just thinking when I was playing last night that you would be the perfect RUclipsr to do lore deep dives on this game and PoE 1, a lot of rich narrative content to pick apart lol
Been watching your stream vods of poe2 (you usually stream when its past midnight here so I can't catch them) and I enjoyed them. Definitely would watch more of your coverage of the game.
As for the game itself, I enjoy it a lot more than the first game so far. I did like the first game, but I frequently lose interest in it because of the gear gem socket issue you mentioned.
Seems you missed the fact you were playing an Early Access.
The endgame is a very different experience than the campaign. The campaign is essentially a tutorial.
Commentary here about the MTX ignores the fact Path of Exile 1 & 2 are free games. And provides a 1: ratio of dollars to points and eligibility in two games.
Hang on, maybe I'm wrong since I'm a GW2 noob but myself and a friend tried it out and we couldn't even group with each other without interacting with the MT shop. We were put into different instances of the same map even though we were in a group together and when I looked up online it said I had to buy something from the shop to be able to teleport to him. Needless to say, we both stopped playing GW2 and was left with a bad taste in my mouth about how they handled MTs. GGG are giving you a complete game to play and the only thing you might need to pay for is stash tabs, technically a convivence. I don't think you can compare the two tbh.
free accounts have some limitations at first, but to join player on a different instance, right click join map. the teleport to friend is something different that allows you to port to their exact location
This is definitely a poor user experience and there is some crappy UI/tutorialisation going on, but I'm pretty sure this is just user error. "Teleport to friend" consumables (which you can buy with gems) are for actually teleporting to the exact location of someone in your party - just getting into the same map instance can be done by right-clicking their character portrait in the party UI and clicking some button that lets you transfer to that map.
I think the game also generally does try to put people grouped in the same party into the same map instance, so you might have been a bit unlucky also.
Could you possibly try out some RUclips shorts with highlights from your streams?
Think people would watch that?
@@WoodenPotatoes totally
@@WoodenPotatoesI think they would too. I know I would
You should spend mode time thinking about the stash tabs and microtransations, very bad takes. Unless you want a AAA experience for free all the way, which is delusional. Let me give you some pointers: you don't need to buy stash tabs for the campaign, so you get a free 30-40h campaign, then when you reach the endgame you might need a few for currency&trading = minimum investment (probably around 25-40$), then you want to play more that a few hundred hours well then pay a bit more for stash tabs to help the developers give you even more content to play.
All I've seen about PoE2 made me go back to give another shot to Last Epoch. Demon Form? -> Lich, Blood mage? -> Lich. I see too many things in PoE2 I did not like in PoE. I spend everybody's hype playing Last Epoch, Inquisitor Martyr and maybe Diablo IV even. All those game had great additions lately and are just fun and more friendly.
campaign super cool, never mind recency bias. act bosses are cinema
Yeah they are all super cinematic absolutely!
on the topic of respecing. playing normally should get you more than enough to be able to "respec", which means tweaking and figuring out your build(despite this they are reducing the cost with like 50% next patch). Not to completely change your entire character, if you want to play a completely different character then go make a different character. and for the people who went all in on a obviously completely broken build that later got patched I have zero sympathy, its no different than exploiting or bug abusing, sucks to be you.
Hard disagree with you regarding the vibe, there are plenty of "nice" games with grim elements, and barely any full on grimdark games like PoE1/2.
If you want that type of game, go play torchlight or something similar, i do like that aesthetic, but it does not fit in PoE.
Grimdark is at the core of PoE, and wanting it to be more vibrant/nice is directly going against their inspirations and mission statement regarding the game., will it possibly drive people away? yes, but a little bit of friction and exposing people to new types of art is worth it.
I will say though that there are plenty of different biomes in the endgame that are open forests/fields/sunny beaches that you might enjoy and could give you a reprieve from the dank and dark areas.
Respecs go way up once you hit maps. I was trying to change my 2 ascendency points at lvl70. It cost 85k gold. Trying to get 85k goal while you can barely run maps was such a chore.
Honest question…could you have gone back to Act 6 (3 Cruel) and just farmed for gold? I’m only at Act 3 so a bit concerned my casual gamer self would hit a similar wall.
@@UnrealGenius I did. I just ran through the city and forge zones for 2 hours picking up every item and selling it.
Recently people started doing a service where you buy a full inventory of garbage items to sell as a way to trade gold.
It's a free-to-play game. They've got to make money somehow. I don't understand what you're complaining about. I've literally never heard anyone suggest GGG was unethical before. Jesus.
Its NOT free to play. It WILL be free to play later next year but right now it cost money. 'Early access' is marketing speak for... absolutely nothing.
11:04 bro is playing a ranged minion build and wondering why the game's so easy 😂. Try melee next time to feel the real pain.
PoE2 is souls liek unless you play as witch, people are not wrong aout that :D Just try yourself