I don't know if you'd guys ever watch and do videos on a series but if u ever do i would love to hear your guys opinion and thoughts on the show bojack horseman
Maybe there is an issue to discussing such a problem on RUclips, but I’d love to hear a reaction from you to Georgia Rule by Garry Marshall. For some reason, this movie didn’t receive much love from audiences. However, it sheds light on the dark issue of child sexual abuse within families and the complexities of the mother-daughter relationship. I’ve always struggled to understand how, in some cases, a mother can’t believe her child in such situations or, worse, even blame them. Is this denial a way to protect the psyche? It pains me that there are boys and girls have to go through something like this. The film itself is warm and straightforward, but not shallow. Would you be able to address such a topic on RUclips?
For anyone that needs to hear this: NEVER handle an abuser the way Belle did in this movie. She did almost everything wrong and endangered both herself and those kids. Do not confront an abuser until after you have arranged an escape plan for the abuser's victims. Always always always put the victim's safety before your hero complex, wait until they can get away from the situation before confronting the abuser. In this case, that would mean they'd need a foster family ready first, and possibly some kind of protection program from the police so that the dad can't interact with them, or at the very least ensure that he'll never be alone with them again.
Thank you! My partner and I couldn't do anything but fall into horrified, confused laughter that the ending was essentially "dox yourself to fix child abuse, and go alone to confront the children's abuser." Publicly shaming and cornering an abuser isn't going to make them stop. More realistically, when they got home he probably would have killed his kids or at least beaten them within an inch of their lives. Incredibly shortsighted on the writers' parts, unfortunately.
I think a big part of Suzu's arc in the film is finally coming to understand her mother's sacrifice. She sees a couple of strangers who are hurting and in danger and does something selfless in an attempt to reach them. Just like her mother. You can see that realization and understanding come over her and it is beautiful.
This!!! I agree very much that a big part of Suzu's grief also came from being unable fathom why her mom did what she did. I think the execution could have been better but I love how she was able to connect to her mother and move on by finally understanding the emotional space her mother came from all those years ago.
The songs to me is for the mom or about the mom. I remember i was on the cinema when they showed the trailer, i didnt understand the lirics ( because it was in japanese), but i was crying afther.
I remember when this first came out, people were upset because they thought it would be a romance like Beauty and the Beast. But I adored this movie, I saw it in theatre twice. It's about grief and seeing yourself reflected in someone else. Suzu was drawn to him because he was in pain but dealing with it in the opposite way she did. She went silent, was unable to sing, whereas the "beast" lashed out from his pain. She was in awe of him, and his pain called to hers, and all she wanted was to be there for him the way she wanted someone to be there for her. Heartbreaking but beautiful.
I love it! There are so many forms of love besides romance and I love this trend of showcasing all the other ways to show love. Suzu loves Kei in a platonic, almost sisterly way and it's beautiful
It's a good movie, but I think the trailer led people to believe it was going to be a romance. Or maybe it's just that it is the whole beauty and beast premise has always been portrayed with a romantic leaning.
@@Shawnasart76597 I wanted to see this in theater so bad, but it was playing really far from me and I didn't have anyone to go with, so I didn't. Really regret it.
i liked this movie, but i always felt the ending was like 10~15 mins too early. She literally saves the boy from the abusive father, goes back to her friends and then it just ends and the aftermath isnt addressed
Interesting, I think I can see what you mean, but I never felt that way. I feel like the movie encapsulates Suzu's internal struggle and growth well, which I feel was the focus of the story rather than what was going on with the other characters.
Yeah, this is how most people felt. We don't need a whole story on the boys but they could've at least acknowledged whether or not her actions even *did* anything for them😅
That's a fair assessment. I still love the movie, but also recognize that it felt a bit off in some places, like the one that you mentioned, for example. I still sing the songs and watch the movie because I love it, but yeah 👍
Well, she basically came to understand what her mother did all those years ago and made a similar gesture. Sure, unlike saving a child getting swept by a current, saving children from abuse is a long-term plan. But the ending was basically going forward in life, adapting to environment. My take, anyway!
"if I've got it in me for them, then maybe I've got it in me for me." As a people pleaser and an extreme self critique/perfectionist, that hit deep :')
As a full time caretaker, this is very hard to practice and internalize. All of my energy is so focused on protecting them and providing for them, it’s like I have no energy or interest in taking care of myself. By the time I put them to bed, I’m so exhausted, I can’t take care of myself properly.
I like how it portrays internet masking in two different lights. Suzu is able to sing and live a completely different life outside of the trauma of losing her mother. Kei, however, uses the internet to express his anger in an almost unhealthy manner (though it's really not his fault for having said anger towards his abusive father).
The part where she sings her song as herself, chokes up and then everyone starts singing to her.... It makes me cry. Every time. Without fail. I have goosebumps just thinking about it
Me too, but honestly, i cry everytime i see the WHOLE movie, like, an scene happens and i cry, then happens another one after that one and i keep crying harder haha, love Belle
I adored this movie up until Suzu's confrontation with the father. I understand the significance of that scene but my suspension of disbelief was pretty quickly shattered by the fact the main adults in Suzu's life willingly drove her to the train station to travel several hours, ALONE, to confront a grown abusive man. My brain just has a difficult time fathoming it, and I feel like it would've been better if the adults hadn't been directly involved in her plan.
Yes, thank you! That scene made me actually angry! It portrayed it as Suzu's duty or ascendance to protect these kids, when she's a child herself! The adults should have rushed over with her, protecting all the kids!
THIS. The ending ruined the movie for me. Grownups sending a girl to confront an abusive adult and when she confronted him ane he falls and goes away scared like no... in real life he could continue abusing them even more and she would be in danger... as someone with family members that went through it the message of "just stand up to them" in the ending felt like a slap in the face
RIGHT!?!? It really threw me off when I watched it. Like not one adult was like "hmm.... maybe we should come with you or contact the authorities instead"? Hello? o_o It'd be different if she naively snuck out or skipped school on her own to help them unbeknownst to the adults but that wasn't the case at all.
It also just seemed silly that the father would just stop and cower because some random girl showed up. If he could do such things to his own kids I find it hard to believe he would stop for some strange girl he just met. I definitly think the adults if they were going to be involved should of been more involved and gone to the boys home with Suzu. Not just for safety like others mentioned but because it would be a great way to show that there are adults who can be trusted and do care. For what it was though it was a nice story.
I just noticed this, and I bet this was on purpose by the animators. Looking at Suzu in group shots in the real world, her color is desaturated, especially in her hair. Suzu in flashbacks, particularly the one at the river, her hair has alot of color to it before her mom passed away. I subconsciously noticed this the first time around, and it's made clear with Belle's design of how vibrant the model is using colors that she used to wear as a child. Neat little detail that I can never unsee lol.
Online bullies are their own brand. A lot of them like to fall back on the argument that they should be able to say whatever they want about anyone and if that hurts you it's apparently your fault, not theirs. There's certainly a blurred line between "am I too sensitive?" and "is this person gas-lighting me because they refuse to be accountable?"
Just look up the law of free speech for that. Free speech is like the laws on freedom in general. Your freedom ends where another one's begins. If you spread hate, cause violence, try to actually push someone towards bad habits or danger. That's infringing on free speech. Secondly if you're hurt by something someone says you're allowed to be hurt. You can even just state that you are hurt. And if they got a problem with the fact that you're hurt, then that says a lot about them. Their refusal to take accountability just makes them the bad guy in the first place. There is a difference between some people though. Like with me I am just really blunt and I forget people got no tollerance for it since everyone around me got used to me being me. If I hurt someone it's usually unintentional and I'll work to clear up the situation and properly apologize for the social mishap. So with you saying I feel hurt you can also weed out the bad people from the good people. Who is worth your time and energy and who isn't. Those that never apologize and put the blame on you they're not your friends.
@@junrobin9335I believe people should be allowed to say anything (as long as it’s not directly insinuating violence-like telling someone to kill/hurt someone else or themselves); however, I also think that if someone is being a jerk, it should be expected for that person to be called out on what they say.
This movie will never fail to make me cry because it always reminds me of a Vtuber named Ironmouse who is ill & says, streaming through her character persona helped her a lot through the worst of it & allowed her to make friends after years of isolation
The story of the Tungsten Rat and her Monke is one of the most inspiring real life narratives and I have been here for it since we got her that new bed back in the day. She is the definition of strength through adversity. She thinks she is so small and yet her light shines so bright it blots out the sun.
Ironmouse was my first thought too because she's huge and her story is more extreme than most, but this movie/video really applies to the entire vtuber community.
Ironmouse helps me through the worst of my own situation. I don't have as bad an immune system. But I've been home on and off, sick and almost dying sometimes often enough to have lasting trauma. But she makes me keep going. I can still meet people too. Eventually.
2:34 I love the detail that people might miss that Suzu's mom gave the little girl HER OWN LIFE JACKET before trying to swim back. I think it adds to the meaning and symbolism more about what Suzu's mom did, and what Suzu later does. She is shedding her own protective shield to help protect someone else with it. Suzu sheds her protective layer of Belle to be able to reach out and get to the abused boys, who are on an island of there own, and she puts herself in bodily harm's way to shield the boys themselves and face down the real beast. Suzu's mom actively made a choice to ensure that girl's safety, even if it meant greatly disadvantaging herself, and eventually dying for it. It's rough, and I get why she did it, but daaaang is that a hard call to make when you're leaving your own daughter to grow up without you. I'd probably feel the same way as Suzu, honestly.
My dad heard it from the adjoining room--just listening with zero context about the film--said it about killed him as a parent. I felt terrible for accidentally subjecting him to that strong of a reaction. But really shows the quality of the dub acting, casting, and directing!
I was listening "A Million Miles Away" from this movie yesterday, which is something that helps me with a recent loss. It's insane you guys do a video on this the same week. Thank you.
I do the same when I miss my mom since 2021 it really helps... I actually was listening to it 2 days ago cuz I really was missing her this week.. If any of these help, Make sure to give yourself breaks when you feel you need it, pet any pets who help calm you down, maybe make something in tribute for who you lost of good memories... and most importantly keep your chin up, 💙
@RedKoopaPlumber I'm sorry for you and your family's loss and I do hope you feel better in the near future. It's nice to know that others like that song too. I really appreciate the kind words and advice, which I am definitely going to take. Thank you again.
I just can't get over that song.. especially the japanese version with teanslaged lyrics, they somehow hit me even deeper. One of the most beautiful songs ever
Whoa, your opening statement makes so much sense when I look back on my life. "You may feel helpless for yourself, but empowered when it comes to looking out for others. And then when you look out for others, it can help you discover, oh if I have this in me for them, maybe I have it in me for me." I was always so timid and quiet and got bullied at school because I couldn't stand up for myself, but as I grew older I would stand up for others who were being bullied. When I went to college, I was able to boldly, and politely, ask people not to swear around me. When I had my son, I had to stand up for him a lot because of his extreme allergies and because he got sick so easily. Now I have no problem with confronting people when I need to. Though I can still be a shrinking violet at times, I also know I can be bold when I need to be bold.
The way I read the Friendship between Suzu and Glasses Girl(granted I've not seen the movie myself) is Glasses is blunt/has no flitter, and Suzu appreciates it because she always knows where the other stands on a given topic
My mom bought this for me last Christmas, and we had no idea what it was like. We watched it together and I found it to be such a beautiful movie. The songs and themes brought on more emotions than I thought they would ❤
This movie broke me out of depression years ago when it came out and I forgot this movie even though I listen to songs on the album everyday. I’ve been having a horrific time lately and I needed this and I’m crying again.
Belle is such an interesting movie about trauma in the age of the internet, without the online aspect it would never have the same emotional impact(kinda reminds me of what Chapell Roan is going through)
Thank you, RUclips Dads for making a grey and cloudy Friday morning that much better! I love Belle! The songs are phenomenonal and I love how the voice actress for the English dub has such an amazing voice. It is so rare for the singing to be just as beautiful in both English and Japanese.
8:26 no joke, there are fish that look like that little boy's avatar! They're called "Sea Angels" and they're found in Hokkaido which is an Eastern city in Japan
Correction: Hokkaido is the northern-eastern most landmass, not an individual city. Also Sea Angels look super cool and I cannot believe they are so absent from western pop culture.
Yet another movie directed by Mamoru Hosoda. The same director of "Wolf Children", "Summer Wars", "One Piece: Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island", "The Boy and The Beast", "Mirai", "The Girl Who Leapt Through Time", and 2000 "Digimon: The Movie". Can't wait to see what movie you'll be reacting to next. And one more thing, I can connect the negative comments and feelings from Belle to another anime movie, that is Perfect Blue. Because we create our avatars, people will see what is on stage, and they believe that's who we are in real life, but we are not exactly the same as we are on stage or online. And that can cause a lot of issues for that person's health.
I keep getting Mamoru Hosoda mixed up with Makoto Shinkai (“Your Name,” “Weathering With You,” “Suzume”). Both of them are absolutely brilliant creators.
that disgusted spit take at the comment not only calling therapy fake but claiming jono is *not a real person* (then what is he, a hologram?) is the absolute correct response. so many internet comments, and i think the film in general, can be boiled down to "hurt people hurt people." and i've done that myself, i know there have been times when i'm in a world of emotional pain and i just get this surge of adrenaline from lashing out at the first person i come across, and it's so much easier to do it in text because they can't hit you. this election, even more than in 2016, feels like a bunch of people in pain inflicting that pain on people who had nothing to do with their pain, and somehow still being mad about it? all over the internet comments sections are just glutted with snarky abusive commentary from sore winners and it just makes me wonder, why would they be doing this if they were genuinely happy with their choice and with the direction their lives have taken? they wouldn't. but will they step back and self-reflect and consider where they can choose empathy and cooperation to stop the cycle of pain? unlikely.
I always felt this movie was her coming to accept the choice her mother made. Giving up her life to save another. She gave up her life as Belle to be able to reach out to the person she was trying to save.
This movie was there for me when my grandma passed away. A friend had recommended it to me before the event and I'd watched it a few times - i could already relate to Suzu, having lost my mother when I was 2. The soundtrack is also part of my playlist now.
I loved the part at 20:00, though (dub hater speaking) I think the Japanese version gives it a lot more justice. In particular, in Japanese Ruka's voice starts cracking and breaking all over the place, which I thought was just adorable and the perfect way to show that she really was just another girl, shy and insecure around her crush.
The Japanese dialogue is far better, but the English songs just slay. The English VA is just a stronger singer. The Japanese VAs just sound more comfortable acting. Both versions are absolutely wonderful.
Another moment that was great when she unmasked herself was the girl in the crowd saying "She's just a normal girl." And then following it with "She looks like ME." Suzu not only has learned her own lesson, but those who saw her also learned they don't need to look a certain way in order to be loved, or perceived, or to show their talents. Y'all should TOTALLY look at Lonely Castle in the Mirror, too.
Attempt #(24) of asking for Spirit : Stallion of the Cimarron!! Was my absolute childhood movie growing up and the filmmaking is so beautiful with amazing scores and concepts of loss and staying true to once nature even in the face of adversity!
She only thinks it used her classmate and not her because she doesn't see herself as beautiful, but U did and showed her a physical manifestation of her beauty. This is one of my favorite movies of all time, it is so deep and requires a few watches to catch everything.
10:44 the ego is actually what we use to balance between the id and the super ego. The super ego is societal norms and virtues, the id is base desires and instincts, and the ego is the mediator. 😈 🧑⚖️ 😇 Id, Ego, Super Ego.
@@Choshako Jono can make mistakes, too. While subtle wording on defining id ego superego may differ from person and situation, the ego is definitely the mediator of id and superego.
@@Choshako “In this ego psychology model of the psyche, the id is a set of uncoordinated instinctual needs; the superego plays the moralizing role via internalized experiences; and the ego is the perceiving, logically organizing agent that mediates between the id's instinctual desires, the demands of external reality and those of the critical superego” You made a snarky comment, but maybe before you assume and act on the assumption that someone else is wrong(especially when you don’t know the information)- look it up yourself? I wasn’t saying anything about Jono’s education and credentials; simply trying to correct a misspeak or a small misremembering. He was correct in the way he described it, he just got Ego and Super Ego mixed up and that’s fine- he’s human.
I notice at 17:34 where Suzu is walking by the river (you can also compare her color palette with other animated characters,) that her color palette becomes brighter (more popping) when she is singing compared to how--like the color of her hair is.
When I first saw this, I broke down when Suzu breaks down, at the end after she's exposed herself, and she's trying to continue to sing. It wasn't until the next day that I figured out why, and what exactly I think happens in that scene: In that moment, Suzu has risked everything. She's risked losing the ability to sing, she's risked being known worldwide... she's risking _everything._ For the sake of two children that she barely knows. It's absolutely _terrifying,_ especially for somebody as shy as Suzu, but it's still something that she _has_ to do. And in that moment, she understood her mother. And she was able to forgive her, and forgive herself for not being "worthy" of her mother staying. And that allowed her inner light to shine, and be shared with everybody else.
I think why people are able to be nastier online than in real life is captured in The Anatomy of Peace. It is far easier to ignore someone's humanity from behind a screen and view others as an obstacle. I've actually noticed that reminding people of others' humanity is actually quite effective in curtailing toxic behavior at times, which would support this theory.
My favorite scene of this movie is The Song right after she revealed herself. Not only was she able to reach the boy(s), but she actually reached herself as well. It's very subtle, but you can see it in her face (unless I'm just imagining it) when she realizes that it's her the people are reacting to, and not just Bell. Then the de-buff wears off and she summons her flying stage.
I love that you used the English dubbing of this movie! The story of the English voice actress is very similar to that of Suzu. She has one of the most beautiful voices I have ever heard, and I am so glad she was able to share her voice through Belle! 💖
Could you please do an analysis of the modern Ducktales? Specifically, the part concerning Della’s disappearance/loss and how it affected her family? Especially the season one finale episodes “Last Crash of the Sunchaser” and “The Shadow War?”
Learning how to give benefit of the doubt in everyday interactions despite my internal negative assumptions and fears was so important for me to stop self-sabotaging.
Was not expecting to ever see this movie done on this channel. I love this movie. It somehow balances cozy with heavy, and it’s a perfect comfort movie that helps me run through the gamut of emotions that can be overwhelming when I’m in a heavy place.
I love seeing all the animated films on here. It's my favorite medium. One I'd love to hear your thoughts on is Look Back. There's a LOT to talk about for both Jono and Alan.
This may be my favorite anime film for personal reasons. fall 2021, the day after my mom passed, I got the U music video as a youtube ad and was blown away by the music and visuals. Almost a year later the weekend before her funeral, the english dub released on streaming and watched it by myself sobbing. It has really helped me through grieving for years now and I saw Belle's character in myself in ways. I know the movie isn't perfect especoally the ending could of been handled more realistically, but I still really love and appreciate it. This video also came out at a perfect time since I've been going through a rough time past few months and gave me a new understanding of the movie and my current struggle rn...
It really shows the different sides of social media. How people can be so hateful careless and petty towards others with no second thought, but also can be a place of reconnection and finding people and maybe even making a difference for others for the sake of kindness and wholehearted understanding that maybe u make a lil difference for strangers...
I watched this movie and shared it with my kids when it was new to streaming. I am glad that she was finally able to communicate with her Dad. and also, I love her Gremlin friend... very encouraging. and her boyfriend that was so worried about her until she was able to stand on her own.
Thank you for taking the time to make an episode about this movie!! I've been requesting Belle since the "Your Name" episode. I got to see this movie in the theater opening weekend, and I've been in love with it ever since. I can't tell you what a gift your channel has been. As someone who went to school for both Psychology and Film, and getting to watch two professionals in each field talk about one of my favorite movies of all time and be just as excited about it as I am, it brings me so much joy. Thank you for all that you do! Now if you want something that's the complete opposite tone of Belle, I suggest you guys watch Promare. High octane action, a loud and colorful cast, and masterclass animation from start to finish. I love it to death, but there's probably not a lot to talk about on the Therapy side of Cinema Therapy.
I love the movie Belle. Suzu is one of the few characters I see myself in, feeling alone, ugly and worthless, a waste of space and oxygen. To see how she acts and grows in the film, from the awkward, shy and timid girl, to one with strength, almost gives you hope, even though you know there is no happy ending for yourself in reality. But it's always good to see at least one character you root for in a movie get it.
Stories help us see the world we want to be in. Your story is not over. I hope you will find a good therapist (or find another one if you have one and it’s not working for you). You are worth it and you are stronger than you know!
Mamoru Hasoda does such a great job writing teen anxt. If you haven't seen his other work I highly recommend it Summer Wars, Wolf Children, The Boy and the Beast. He's my favorite anime feature director
Thank you for doing this movie! It is one of my favorites. I love the theme about learning to be ok with just being yourself. Instead of another bad romance, it is a story about learning to love yourself.
This made me unspeakably happy to see pop up in my feed, it's just... this was a movie I was lucky to catch in theaters not long after the dub was first released, and hearing "Gales of Song" for the first time brought me to absolute tears as someone that also lost their mother early on (fresh into adulthood right at 18, right before life was gonna begin), and it was such an awakening to me back then. It's one of my favorite movies of all time, it explores the concept of grief and resolution, revolution, resolve, so much love of the arts, it's just such a beautiful movie.
Every time I watch this movie I notice more themes and messages, cool connections. I also notice the movie's flaws, but I just love the movie more and more. I relate a lot with Suzu for several reasons, the music is AMAZING, the animation is kinda crazy but also simple but also beautiful, and the story touches me every time I watch it. I'm glad you guys watched it too! You surprised me by sharing even more connections and insights than I had even considered. Thank you guys for creating these videos and I hope you're doing well!
22:28 Good news! You guys have covered another of the director's works before, Wolf Children! The director is Mamoru Hisoda, and his earlier films, namely Summer Wars, also had a lot of that sort of exaggerated posing and expressions, with the humor to boot. It's also another film that looked at the internet, though in a slightly different way than Belle. I would love to see you guys cover that film as it touches on a lot family interconnection and drama. Also, back to gush on Belle, Mamoru Hisoda fell in love with animation again thanks to Disney's Beauty and the Beast, and there are a few shots of Belle in the Beast's castle from Belle that are frame for frame the same as they are in Beauty and the Beast! So this was a very special film for Hisoda to work on as he got to tell his version of this story.
My favorite thing about this movie is the fact that it is the director, Mamoru Hosoda's, 3rd movie dealing with human connection in cyberspace. Man really like that theme.
This is so good! Another musical related anime it would be awesome to see them react to is Your Lie in April. There's a lot to unpack there with all the different character dynamics.
I can't watch this movie without crying, honestly; there's a lot of feelings and experiences I had a lot like both main characters. I know the depths of her grief since I went through it, too - there was a long period of time when my grielf was all-consuming, and I lost my artistic inclinations for years. My Grandmother, one of my biggest supporters in my life, was there for me when I was in and out of children's hospitals, and always cherished any artwork that I made for her, encouraging me when I started working on animated projects. Unfortunately, she developed a rare, aggressive ovarian cancer and died in 2021. I didn't draw, write, paint, sing, or do anything anything creative for 2 years. In losing my art, I lost my voice and almost myself. Watching Belle ended up becoming a beacon of light when I was feeling so lost.
So many topics to civer, so litel time to do it in one comment. Allen and Johno are my mirror, since they said it themselves about this RUclips video. And so I will add that identity, imposter syndrom, fear of abandenment, all of those were here and well explained. But mostly, how various characters are motifs in Suzu's journey: her dad who gives her so much space, her harsh, yet highly supportive bff, Ruka, Kamishin and Shinobu's opening ups. Hell, Peggy Sue going from hater to fan, all of these people are great representitives of Suzu's state of mind!
Finally, I've been looking forward to the day you guys would talk about this movie. It's really good and one I would recommend to people and Suzu's arc throughout is great from being afraid to sing again due to grief from her mother's death and subsequent sacrifice to being confident in her singing ability again and saving someone else just like her mother did. This movie is one that makes me tear up or cry and especially the song at the end where suzu is thinking about her mother while singing hits me in the feels ❤
I think what makes the awkward confession scene so powerful is that it is a painfully relatable human moment. And this is in contrast to the world of U. Even the animation style is hand-drawn and more naturalistic in the "real world" where computer-generated animation is used in "the world of U". This painful second-hand embarrassment moment is just as vibrant as the opulence of U, and I love how that contrast is shown with moments like this.
As someone who has been watching this channel for a couple years now, I’ve learned so much from you guys and have been able to grow with the lessons I’ve learned from these videos. Thank you for what you do.
I loved that you used the comments section scene from Ralph Breaks the Internet when talking about whether or not reading comments is healthy.❤ Do you think you'll do an episode about the sequel? Like a part 2 of Ralph and Vanellope learning about friendship and Ralph learning more about loving himself?
Finally 3 years later, I always hoped you would mention this movie. And now we get a whole episode, this already gets a like! Thank you so much for covering one of my favorite movies!❤❤
THIS! This anime resonated with me SO MUCH! I'm 41, and have a 12 year old son, but, he's SO much like me emotionally, and, I saw/see so much of myself and him in Suzu's character. Shy, reserved, impostor syndrome, and expression through creativity -- though his is more open. Me, I write under a pseudonym! lol But, I went to see this movie by myself in theaters, and I CRIED! Just all the lyrics of the songs, the animation -- like was said here, how it did so well with capturing real emotion -- and the way they showed internet hivemind, comments, adoration... It was all so overwhelming, and accurate. I really don't have enough words for what I felt/feel towards this movie... I went into just being a fan of any rendition of B&tB as a general story. But this...this ended up being SO much more, and, it even brings me to tears just commenting on your commentary. This was so beautifully done, and I'm so glad you guys covered this movie. Thank you. 💝
What a lovely episode. I wanna watch this movie now. I lost one of my best friends in july, who helped me build my "core", who was there in crucial and magical times. I'm still coping with this loss, grief hits hard and often I can't take it. I noticed the first 2 months I was removing myself away from other connections, especially people who didn't know him and couldn't really understand his loss. I felt like I couldn't love them, and needed to reduce my connections so I wouldn't feel the pain I'm still feeling, whenever they are gone (since we will all be gone some day). This last weekend, I noticed a change. I had a great time, also magical, with these newer friends in my life. Moments like this really matter. It is moments like this that makes life worth living. I'm still afraid of the future, especially worried about when I'll have to face more of this feeling again, this grief I didn't even coped with yet. But still, I'm glad I did not entirely shut them out.
I have been strugling with my commitment to helping others given the choices recently to return to abuse rather than heal and move forward. Thank you for making this.
Thank you both so much for choosing this movie, it’s so beautiful I really needed to hear and see this. It cradles the grief, the loss and the journey that we go through in life - reaching for something in a dark and lonely place to find that we are not alone in the darkness and we can still be seen. Thanks again for finding another gem to watch that I don’t think I would have ever found ❤
The way I absolutely jumped to this video the second I saw it. I love this movie. It came out almost a year after my father's passing, so I absolutely resonated with Suzu and the pain she felt over the loss of her mom as well as a few other things. I do agree that the ending could've been longer and such, but it's still one of my favorite movies this decade
I'm so beyond happy you're talking about this one! I got to see the first USA screening of "Belle" and it meant the world to me, especially as a lowkey "Beauty and the Beast" historian.
I love this movie! Specifically, I love the art and animation direction of it. So they did something interesting with the animation styles to set the real world and the virtual worlds apart. They animated the real world as you normally would with anime: 2D animation that is drawn. For the virtual world, they used 3D animation, but it’s stylized in such a way that it isn’t obvious until Belle is unmasked as Suzu and she looks and moves very differently from how she would in the real world. That’s because of the difference in animation styles!! I love details like that in animated films. There’s a similar thing going on in Wolfwalkers. To make the wild and the town very different settings, the town and townspeople all are made from very geometric shapes, but the woods and the people and animals living there are very fluid and sketchy.
I loved every single performance by Kylie McNeil throughout the English dub version of this movie, and I have been patiently waiting for this video to pop up on my daily feed. Thank you so much guys!
You guys really reacted to BELLE?! I can’t believe it !! 😭😭 thank you so much for this!!!🥹🥹💕💕 26:20 that’s such a beautiful analogy 🥹 thank you for making this video ✨🙏🏼
Man while this movie was messy in places, I LOVE IT. When it wants to hit me with emotion it HITS HARD. The reveal of the Beast is gut wrenching and Suzus final song hits deep for me, as someone who also struggles with imposter syndrome and i find myself thinking of it when I need an emotional push ❤
4:34 The laundry basket handle is broken. I own several of those and they are all broken. Is this the way those baskets are supposed to be? The animators sure thought so. Genius!
That trauma you discuss within Suzu, the idea that no one will ever see her or choose her truthfully and honestly, linking back to the idea that her mother chose a stranger over Suzu, dying saving a stranger instead of living safely with Suzu, it made me realize something about my own self worth issues. Trauma Dump incoming, but I’ll try to keep it vague. I was adopted at birth since my birth mom got pregnant as a teen and my birth dad couldn’t be with her for his own life-related reasons. I was adopted into a family where I had a sister the same age as me, and our birthdays were a couple weeks apart. My adoptive parents got a divorce when I was young, and throughout all of that they explained my situation pretty well to me over the years. I understood why my original parents couldn’t take care of me, I understood why my current parents got their divorce, and I was just as understanding whenever my sister would have more severe issues than I ever did, whether it was mental health, physical health, emotional regulation, toxic relationships, dire financial straits. And I was understanding as my custodial parent’s health started to decline, and I was the one expected to help her with more and more things. The problem is that I have a hard time squaring this idea of me as a helper and caretaker with my original ideas of myself. I never wanted this to be my life, but the universe put me into this situation through a thousand other situations. I have felt over the course of my life that everyone else around me has needs more important than my own. A lot of times, the consequences of their needs not getting met are pain, financial hardship, illness, and sometimes it seems like death as well. My needs never get so drastic. I’ve never been in that much trouble before. I’ve been somewhat of a coward, a hermit, keeping myself far away from harm’s reach, but also far away from most experiences my peers have already had. And the fact that a lot of the time, the people around me have these drastic needs that they cannot fulfill themselves, or rely on the other people around me to fulfill, means that every burden eventually falls on me, whether they mean it to or not. My needs never really seem to matter to the people around me, my family, and I’ve cut myself off from so many people who could’ve introduced something a little different to my life, because I am shackled by these burdens, by my understanding and morality. I am so paralyzed by the weight of all of it that I can barely meet my own needs anymore.
TL;DR, my self worth issues stem from the idea that I was probably a mistake, but I persist anyway, and not many people have given me the attention I felt I needed, since a lot of the time other people’s needs are more dire than my own. I’m not anyone’s first choice, and I understand that but I still struggle to see why anyone chooses me at all when I seem like this massive inconvenience.
Two things spoke to me here: - "If I have it in me for someone else, maybe I have it in me for ME..." - "In order to be loved, I have to be seen. And to be seen, I have to reveal myself." I skipped First Grade, so I've always been the smallest and youngest in my classes. Least mature as well, both Emotionally, as well as Physically. That made me an easy target for everyone else in my peer groups. Didn't get any better throughout School. That left me with a lot of time to watch everyone else having fun together and feel I wasn't worth anyone else's time. But if I saw something happen, like a car wreck or someone's purse get stolen (yes, real life examples, of which there are more) I'd be right there to try to help. I never understood why I had this "Hero Complex" before, but that first line has given me something to think about. And as a Watcher of Anime, and Romance Anime in particular, the thing I've noticed for couples getting together in the anime, and what I've felt in Real life, is that to truly fall in love with someone and them fall in love with you, you have to be able to relax enough to be yourself with them, and for them to do the same with you. Horimiya is an anime that I think shows this to a great degree. Guy is quiet and doesn't stand out at all, shy and probably no friends at all at school. But outside of school, he's heavily pierced and tattooed and loses his glasses in favor of Contacts, but still a kind person. The Girl, she tends to be popular at school, but she still keeps people at arms length so they don't find out how she's constantly looking after her little brother and family home. (A life she actually seems to enjoy, but for high school kids is seen as a drag...) One day little brother gets hurt, and "Big Bro" happens to be nearby and helps him home. The girl doesn't realize this 'Cool Guy' is the 'Dweeb' from her class at first! Little Brother insists he stay and come back and it becomes a daily routine for them. They end up liking that they have this 'little secret' of their true selves between each other. If you haven't seen it yet, it is hilarious and heart touching at the same time! I highly recommend it. Another one is "The Angel Next Door Spoils Me Rotten." Seriously a wholesome romance where this pair of students live alone for their own reasons, and one kind gesture leads to another and over time the School "Angel" ends up having feelings for the Loner Boy that only seems to have one other friend. (I sense a pattern in my anime recommendations here...) Over the course of the series they reveal her family life, and his issues at a previous school that led them to where they are now. And it's precisely their lack of pretense at home that lead to them falling for each other. Anyway, this is a lot longer and probably more self-revealing than I had intended. But thank you so much for reviewing Belle! Saw it in theaters and even have a framed copy of the mini-poster they gave out at the showing! And now I sense a Re-watch is going to happen today. And I'll be keeping these themes in mind as I re-watch it! ~ Cheers!
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Maybe there is an issue to discussing such a problem on RUclips, but I’d love to hear a reaction from you to Georgia Rule by Garry Marshall. For some reason, this movie didn’t receive much love from audiences. However, it sheds light on the dark issue of child sexual abuse within families and the complexities of the mother-daughter relationship. I’ve always struggled to understand how, in some cases, a mother can’t believe her child in such situations or, worse, even blame them. Is this denial a way to protect the psyche? It pains me that there are boys and girls have to go through something like this. The film itself is warm and straightforward, but not shallow. Would you be able to address such a topic on RUclips?
OMFG I ASKED FOR THIS HOLEY COW
For anyone that needs to hear this: NEVER handle an abuser the way Belle did in this movie. She did almost everything wrong and endangered both herself and those kids. Do not confront an abuser until after you have arranged an escape plan for the abuser's victims. Always always always put the victim's safety before your hero complex, wait until they can get away from the situation before confronting the abuser. In this case, that would mean they'd need a foster family ready first, and possibly some kind of protection program from the police so that the dad can't interact with them, or at the very least ensure that he'll never be alone with them again.
Thank you for saying this.
1000% Very important thing to say!
so true, this (among a few other issues) made me really hate this movie
Thank you! My partner and I couldn't do anything but fall into horrified, confused laughter that the ending was essentially "dox yourself to fix child abuse, and go alone to confront the children's abuser." Publicly shaming and cornering an abuser isn't going to make them stop. More realistically, when they got home he probably would have killed his kids or at least beaten them within an inch of their lives. Incredibly shortsighted on the writers' parts, unfortunately.
@@snuffaluffy42 and the fact that all of Suzu‘s support, even the adults, were fine with this plan?! Awful!
I think a big part of Suzu's arc in the film is finally coming to understand her mother's sacrifice. She sees a couple of strangers who are hurting and in danger and does something selfless in an attempt to reach them. Just like her mother. You can see that realization and understanding come over her and it is beautiful.
This!!! I agree very much that a big part of Suzu's grief also came from being unable fathom why her mom did what she did. I think the execution could have been better but I love how she was able to connect to her mother and move on by finally understanding the emotional space her mother came from all those years ago.
The songs to me is for the mom or about the mom. I remember i was on the cinema when they showed the trailer, i didnt understand the lirics ( because it was in japanese), but i was crying afther.
Agreed. I'm so glad they did this movie.
@@MutantAlchemist450 Yes! You are dead on. It is so beautiful, I cried so many times when I first watched this, and still cry when I watch it. LOL
Also Suzu does a rather stupid Selfless thing.
I agree with what she did but... GURL! why did you go there alone?!
I remember when this first came out, people were upset because they thought it would be a romance like Beauty and the Beast. But I adored this movie, I saw it in theatre twice.
It's about grief and seeing yourself reflected in someone else. Suzu was drawn to him because he was in pain but dealing with it in the opposite way she did. She went silent, was unable to sing, whereas the "beast" lashed out from his pain. She was in awe of him, and his pain called to hers, and all she wanted was to be there for him the way she wanted someone to be there for her. Heartbreaking but beautiful.
I also saw this in theaters twice! Once in Japanese with subtitles and then again in English.
@KZesty I did the same thing lol. First time subbed with my friend, and the second time dubbed with my husband.
I love it! There are so many forms of love besides romance and I love this trend of showcasing all the other ways to show love. Suzu loves Kei in a platonic, almost sisterly way and it's beautiful
It's a good movie, but I think the trailer led people to believe it was going to be a romance. Or maybe it's just that it is the whole beauty and beast premise has always been portrayed with a romantic leaning.
@@Shawnasart76597 I wanted to see this in theater so bad, but it was playing really far from me and I didn't have anyone to go with, so I didn't. Really regret it.
i liked this movie, but i always felt the ending was like 10~15 mins too early. She literally saves the boy from the abusive father, goes back to her friends and then it just ends and the aftermath isnt addressed
Interesting, I think I can see what you mean, but I never felt that way. I feel like the movie encapsulates Suzu's internal struggle and growth well, which I feel was the focus of the story rather than what was going on with the other characters.
Yeah, this is how most people felt. We don't need a whole story on the boys but they could've at least acknowledged whether or not her actions even *did* anything for them😅
Ahh Woah
That's a fair assessment. I still love the movie, but also recognize that it felt a bit off in some places, like the one that you mentioned, for example. I still sing the songs and watch the movie because I love it, but yeah 👍
Well, she basically came to understand what her mother did all those years ago and made a similar gesture. Sure, unlike saving a child getting swept by a current, saving children from abuse is a long-term plan. But the ending was basically going forward in life, adapting to environment. My take, anyway!
"if I've got it in me for them, then maybe I've got it in me for me." As a people pleaser and an extreme self critique/perfectionist, that hit deep :')
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As someone who struggled for years to stand up for myself, I felt that too. I know you have it in you for you. Best of luck on your journey! 💗🫂
As a full time caretaker, this is very hard to practice and internalize. All of my energy is so focused on protecting them and providing for them, it’s like I have no energy or interest in taking care of myself. By the time I put them to bed, I’m so exhausted, I can’t take care of myself properly.
Right 😭 beautiful video they did
I like how it portrays internet masking in two different lights. Suzu is able to sing and live a completely different life outside of the trauma of losing her mother. Kei, however, uses the internet to express his anger in an almost unhealthy manner (though it's really not his fault for having said anger towards his abusive father).
The part where she sings her song as herself, chokes up and then everyone starts singing to her.... It makes me cry. Every time. Without fail. I have goosebumps just thinking about it
Beautiful scene 🥹✨
Me too, but honestly, i cry everytime i see the WHOLE movie, like, an scene happens and i cry, then happens another one after that one and i keep crying harder haha, love Belle
I adored this movie up until Suzu's confrontation with the father. I understand the significance of that scene but my suspension of disbelief was pretty quickly shattered by the fact the main adults in Suzu's life willingly drove her to the train station to travel several hours, ALONE, to confront a grown abusive man. My brain just has a difficult time fathoming it, and I feel like it would've been better if the adults hadn't been directly involved in her plan.
Yes, thank you! That scene made me actually angry! It portrayed it as Suzu's duty or ascendance to protect these kids, when she's a child herself! The adults should have rushed over with her, protecting all the kids!
THIS. The ending ruined the movie for me. Grownups sending a girl to confront an abusive adult and when she confronted him ane he falls and goes away scared like no... in real life he could continue abusing them even more and she would be in danger... as someone with family members that went through it the message of "just stand up to them" in the ending felt like a slap in the face
RIGHT!?!? It really threw me off when I watched it. Like not one adult was like "hmm.... maybe we should come with you or contact the authorities instead"? Hello? o_o It'd be different if she naively snuck out or skipped school on her own to help them unbeknownst to the adults but that wasn't the case at all.
It also just seemed silly that the father would just stop and cower because some random girl showed up. If he could do such things to his own kids I find it hard to believe he would stop for some strange girl he just met. I definitly think the adults if they were going to be involved should of been more involved and gone to the boys home with Suzu. Not just for safety like others mentioned but because it would be a great way to show that there are adults who can be trusted and do care. For what it was though it was a nice story.
Japanese people are just raised to be more independent. And I don't think it was _hours_ per se
I just noticed this, and I bet this was on purpose by the animators. Looking at Suzu in group shots in the real world, her color is desaturated, especially in her hair. Suzu in flashbacks, particularly the one at the river, her hair has alot of color to it before her mom passed away. I subconsciously noticed this the first time around, and it's made clear with Belle's design of how vibrant the model is using colors that she used to wear as a child. Neat little detail that I can never unsee lol.
Online bullies are their own brand. A lot of them like to fall back on the argument that they should be able to say whatever they want about anyone and if that hurts you it's apparently your fault, not theirs. There's certainly a blurred line between "am I too sensitive?" and "is this person gas-lighting me because they refuse to be accountable?"
Just look up the law of free speech for that. Free speech is like the laws on freedom in general. Your freedom ends where another one's begins. If you spread hate, cause violence, try to actually push someone towards bad habits or danger. That's infringing on free speech.
Secondly if you're hurt by something someone says you're allowed to be hurt. You can even just state that you are hurt. And if they got a problem with the fact that you're hurt, then that says a lot about them. Their refusal to take accountability just makes them the bad guy in the first place.
There is a difference between some people though. Like with me I am just really blunt and I forget people got no tollerance for it since everyone around me got used to me being me. If I hurt someone it's usually unintentional and I'll work to clear up the situation and properly apologize for the social mishap. So with you saying I feel hurt you can also weed out the bad people from the good people. Who is worth your time and energy and who isn't.
Those that never apologize and put the blame on you they're not your friends.
@@junrobin9335I believe people should be allowed to say anything (as long as it’s not directly insinuating violence-like telling someone to kill/hurt someone else or themselves); however, I also think that if someone is being a jerk, it should be expected for that person to be called out on what they say.
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This movie will never fail to make me cry because it always reminds me of a Vtuber named Ironmouse who is ill & says, streaming through her character persona helped her a lot through the worst of it & allowed her to make friends after years of isolation
The story of the Tungsten Rat and her Monke is one of the most inspiring real life narratives and I have been here for it since we got her that new bed back in the day. She is the definition of strength through adversity. She thinks she is so small and yet her light shines so bright it blots out the sun.
Ironmouse was my first thought too because she's huge and her story is more extreme than most, but this movie/video really applies to the entire vtuber community.
Ironmouse helps me through the worst of my own situation. I don't have as bad an immune system. But I've been home on and off, sick and almost dying sometimes often enough to have lasting trauma. But she makes me keep going. I can still meet people too. Eventually.
Plus she's an incredible singer too
Here to say the same! I love mouse!
2:34 I love the detail that people might miss that Suzu's mom gave the little girl HER OWN LIFE JACKET before trying to swim back. I think it adds to the meaning and symbolism more about what Suzu's mom did, and what Suzu later does. She is shedding her own protective shield to help protect someone else with it. Suzu sheds her protective layer of Belle to be able to reach out and get to the abused boys, who are on an island of there own, and she puts herself in bodily harm's way to shield the boys themselves and face down the real beast.
Suzu's mom actively made a choice to ensure that girl's safety, even if it meant greatly disadvantaging herself, and eventually dying for it. It's rough, and I get why she did it, but daaaang is that a hard call to make when you're leaving your own daughter to grow up without you. I'd probably feel the same way as Suzu, honestly.
I love how every 10 years or so, Mamoru Hosoda is contractually obliged to make a film on the state of the Internet. 🙃
True xd
Like with Summer Wars and Digimon Our War Game
@@The_Ferbguy the trilogy we didnt know we wanted
That first "Mommy!" from Suzu's english voice actress brought tears to my eyes immediately. I love this movie so much!!
My dad heard it from the adjoining room--just listening with zero context about the film--said it about killed him as a parent. I felt terrible for accidentally subjecting him to that strong of a reaction. But really shows the quality of the dub acting, casting, and directing!
I was listening "A Million Miles Away" from this movie yesterday, which is something that helps me with a recent loss. It's insane you guys do a video on this the same week. Thank you.
I hope you feel better soon
@izzyhjelmstrom2397 Thank you that's so nice of you.
I do the same when I miss my mom since 2021 it really helps... I actually was listening to it 2 days ago cuz I really was missing her this week..
If any of these help, Make sure to give yourself breaks when you feel you need it, pet any pets who help calm you down, maybe make something in tribute for who you lost of good memories... and most importantly keep your chin up, 💙
@RedKoopaPlumber I'm sorry for you and your family's loss and I do hope you feel better in the near future.
It's nice to know that others like that song too. I really appreciate the kind words and advice, which I am definitely going to take. Thank you again.
I just can't get over that song.. especially the japanese version with teanslaged lyrics, they somehow hit me even deeper. One of the most beautiful songs ever
Hosoda said he made this movie for his daughter and people who are young and the future they will live in. I think he accomplished this.
Whoa, your opening statement makes so much sense when I look back on my life. "You may feel helpless for yourself, but empowered when it comes to looking out for others. And then when you look out for others, it can help you discover, oh if I have this in me for them, maybe I have it in me for me." I was always so timid and quiet and got bullied at school because I couldn't stand up for myself, but as I grew older I would stand up for others who were being bullied. When I went to college, I was able to boldly, and politely, ask people not to swear around me.
When I had my son, I had to stand up for him a lot because of his extreme allergies and because he got sick so easily. Now I have no problem with confronting people when I need to. Though I can still be a shrinking violet at times, I also know I can be bold when I need to be bold.
I love it when CinemaTherapy convinces me to start being interested again. Adding this film to the watchlist: call me curious.
It’s definitely worth it to rewatch a few times.
@sharksbean Well if it's rewatchable I'm even more interested!
@ hell I bought the damn Blu-ray.
I would just say there is a massive trigger warning for physical and emotional child abuse; so be aware of that
@starsiadraws You're very considerate. Thank you. 🌞
The way I read the Friendship between Suzu and Glasses Girl(granted I've not seen the movie myself) is Glasses is blunt/has no flitter, and Suzu appreciates it because she always knows where the other stands on a given topic
My mom bought this for me last Christmas, and we had no idea what it was like. We watched it together and I found it to be such a beautiful movie. The songs and themes brought on more emotions than I thought they would ❤
Just passed my exam and they drop this!!!!!!! THIS IS THE BEST FRIDAY SURPRISE
Congrats on passing your exam!
Congrats!
This movie broke me out of depression years ago when it came out and I forgot this movie even though I listen to songs on the album everyday.
I’ve been having a horrific time lately and I needed this and I’m crying again.
I am so sorry life has been so tough for you. Sending you love and I hope you are able to do something kind for yourself today 💛💛
Belle is such an interesting movie about trauma in the age of the internet, without the online aspect it would never have the same emotional impact(kinda reminds me of what Chapell Roan is going through)
Thank you, RUclips Dads for making a grey and cloudy Friday morning that much better! I love Belle! The songs are phenomenonal and I love how the voice actress for the English dub has such an amazing voice. It is so rare for the singing to be just as beautiful in both English and Japanese.
8:26 no joke, there are fish that look like that little boy's avatar! They're called "Sea Angels" and they're found in Hokkaido which is an Eastern city in Japan
Correction: Hokkaido is the northern-eastern most landmass, not an individual city.
Also Sea Angels look super cool and I cannot believe they are so absent from western pop culture.
Yet another movie directed by Mamoru Hosoda. The same director of "Wolf Children", "Summer Wars", "One Piece: Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island", "The Boy and The Beast", "Mirai", "The Girl Who Leapt Through Time", and 2000 "Digimon: The Movie".
Can't wait to see what movie you'll be reacting to next.
And one more thing, I can connect the negative comments and feelings from Belle to another anime movie, that is Perfect Blue. Because we create our avatars, people will see what is on stage, and they believe that's who we are in real life, but we are not exactly the same as we are on stage or online. And that can cause a lot of issues for that person's health.
He made Wolf Children!! I loved that movie as a kid!
Then I realised she umm... slept with a wolf and yeah that was ruined for me...😅
Love most of these films I watch I see it now why it’s bittersweet
I keep getting Mamoru Hosoda mixed up with Makoto Shinkai (“Your Name,” “Weathering With You,” “Suzume”). Both of them are absolutely brilliant creators.
@@niagargoyle Me too. Imo their "styles" are very similar to each other
@@blessedcocoa5729 That was pretty explicit, no?
that disgusted spit take at the comment not only calling therapy fake but claiming jono is *not a real person* (then what is he, a hologram?) is the absolute correct response. so many internet comments, and i think the film in general, can be boiled down to "hurt people hurt people." and i've done that myself, i know there have been times when i'm in a world of emotional pain and i just get this surge of adrenaline from lashing out at the first person i come across, and it's so much easier to do it in text because they can't hit you. this election, even more than in 2016, feels like a bunch of people in pain inflicting that pain on people who had nothing to do with their pain, and somehow still being mad about it? all over the internet comments sections are just glutted with snarky abusive commentary from sore winners and it just makes me wonder, why would they be doing this if they were genuinely happy with their choice and with the direction their lives have taken? they wouldn't. but will they step back and self-reflect and consider where they can choose empathy and cooperation to stop the cycle of pain? unlikely.
I always felt this movie was her coming to accept the choice her mother made. Giving up her life to save another. She gave up her life as Belle to be able to reach out to the person she was trying to save.
This movie was there for me when my grandma passed away. A friend had recommended it to me before the event and I'd watched it a few times - i could already relate to Suzu, having lost my mother when I was 2.
The soundtrack is also part of my playlist now.
I loved the part at 20:00, though (dub hater speaking) I think the Japanese version gives it a lot more justice. In particular, in Japanese Ruka's voice starts cracking and breaking all over the place, which I thought was just adorable and the perfect way to show that she really was just another girl, shy and insecure around her crush.
The Japanese dialogue is far better, but the English songs just slay. The English VA is just a stronger singer. The Japanese VAs just sound more comfortable acting. Both versions are absolutely wonderful.
Another moment that was great when she unmasked herself was the girl in the crowd saying "She's just a normal girl." And then following it with "She looks like ME."
Suzu not only has learned her own lesson, but those who saw her also learned they don't need to look a certain way in order to be loved, or perceived, or to show their talents.
Y'all should TOTALLY look at Lonely Castle in the Mirror, too.
Attempt #(24) of asking for Spirit : Stallion of the Cimarron!! Was my absolute childhood movie growing up and the filmmaking is so beautiful with amazing scores and concepts of loss and staying true to once nature even in the face of adversity!
Is it only 24th? Buddy we need to bump this comment.
I second this, again. 😊
Bump bump bump!
(Can't believe this is just attempt no. 24 - we need this!) 😭💓
Omg! Spirit is still an awesome movie to this day ❤
Bumpity bump bump! I loved this movie and I think it would a great one for them to cover!
Bump bumpbumpit UP! Stallion needs a session!!!!
She only thinks it used her classmate and not her because she doesn't see herself as beautiful, but U did and showed her a physical manifestation of her beauty. This is one of my favorite movies of all time, it is so deep and requires a few watches to catch everything.
I remember when I saw this scene the first time thinking: "Yes girl! You are beautiful!" I never doubted U used her picture to create the Bell Avatar.
@Tenar-po7fy Yes! That is exactly how I felt.
10:44 the ego is actually what we use to balance between the id and the super ego. The super ego is societal norms and virtues, the id is base desires and instincts, and the ego is the mediator.
😈 🧑⚖️ 😇 Id, Ego, Super Ego.
Are you bettered educated on the subject than Jono the licensed therapist?
@@Choshako Jono can make mistakes, too. While subtle wording on defining id ego superego may differ from person and situation, the ego is definitely the mediator of id and superego.
@@Choshako “In this ego psychology model of the psyche, the id is a set of uncoordinated instinctual needs; the superego plays the moralizing role via internalized experiences; and the ego is the perceiving, logically organizing agent that mediates between the id's instinctual desires, the demands of external reality and those of the critical superego”
You made a snarky comment, but maybe before you assume and act on the assumption that someone else is wrong(especially when you don’t know the information)- look it up yourself? I wasn’t saying anything about Jono’s education and credentials; simply trying to correct a misspeak or a small misremembering. He was correct in the way he described it, he just got Ego and Super Ego mixed up and that’s fine- he’s human.
I notice at 17:34 where Suzu is walking by the river (you can also compare her color palette with other animated characters,) that her color palette becomes brighter (more popping) when she is singing compared to how--like the color of her hair is.
When I first saw this, I broke down when Suzu breaks down, at the end after she's exposed herself, and she's trying to continue to sing. It wasn't until the next day that I figured out why, and what exactly I think happens in that scene: In that moment, Suzu has risked everything. She's risked losing the ability to sing, she's risked being known worldwide... she's risking _everything._ For the sake of two children that she barely knows. It's absolutely _terrifying,_ especially for somebody as shy as Suzu, but it's still something that she _has_ to do.
And in that moment, she understood her mother. And she was able to forgive her, and forgive herself for not being "worthy" of her mother staying. And that allowed her inner light to shine, and be shared with everybody else.
I think why people are able to be nastier online than in real life is captured in The Anatomy of Peace. It is far easier to ignore someone's humanity from behind a screen and view others as an obstacle. I've actually noticed that reminding people of others' humanity is actually quite effective in curtailing toxic behavior at times, which would support this theory.
My favorite scene of this movie is The Song right after she revealed herself. Not only was she able to reach the boy(s), but she actually reached herself as well. It's very subtle, but you can see it in her face (unless I'm just imagining it) when she realizes that it's her the people are reacting to, and not just Bell.
Then the de-buff wears off and she summons her flying stage.
5:58 😂 that’s a hell of a comment they some Randi left on your video. I’m so happy you made that awesome skit with Rebeca, though she is amazing !
The scene with Crocs wearing boy is the best thing ever. I laughed until tears came.
11:02 Love that Johnathan hits on the toxic positivity that society demands.
19:28 I'm here for the tough love from the Internet Dads!
I'm so happy you're covering this!
I love that you used the English dubbing of this movie! The story of the English voice actress is very similar to that of Suzu. She has one of the most beautiful voices I have ever heard, and I am so glad she was able to share her voice through Belle! 💖
Could you please do an analysis of the modern Ducktales? Specifically, the part concerning Della’s disappearance/loss and how it affected her family? Especially the season one finale episodes “Last Crash of the Sunchaser” and “The Shadow War?”
Learning how to give benefit of the doubt in everyday interactions despite my internal negative assumptions and fears was so important for me to stop self-sabotaging.
I WAS gunna watch this while working out but I KNOW you guys will make me cry sooooo something lighter till I get home
Was not expecting to ever see this movie done on this channel. I love this movie. It somehow balances cozy with heavy, and it’s a perfect comfort movie that helps me run through the gamut of emotions that can be overwhelming when I’m in a heavy place.
This movie is how you do modern retelling of Beauty and Beast
Totally
We live for Disney slander
I love seeing all the animated films on here. It's my favorite medium.
One I'd love to hear your thoughts on is Look Back. There's a LOT to talk about for both Jono and Alan.
"I am sick and tired of Internet babies!!!" - Alan
This may be my favorite anime film for personal reasons. fall 2021, the day after my mom passed, I got the U music video as a youtube ad and was blown away by the music and visuals. Almost a year later the weekend before her funeral, the english dub released on streaming and watched it by myself sobbing. It has really helped me through grieving for years now and I saw Belle's character in myself in ways. I know the movie isn't perfect especoally the ending could of been handled more realistically, but I still really love and appreciate it. This video also came out at a perfect time since I've been going through a rough time past few months and gave me a new understanding of the movie and my current struggle rn...
It really shows the different sides of social media. How people can be so hateful careless and petty towards others with no second thought, but also can be a place of reconnection and finding people and maybe even making a difference for others for the sake of kindness and wholehearted understanding that maybe u make a lil difference for strangers...
I have been WAITING for them to cover Belle for so long, and this just MADE MY DAY!!!
I watched this movie and shared it with my kids when it was new to streaming. I am glad that she was finally able to communicate with her Dad.
and also, I love her Gremlin friend... very encouraging. and her boyfriend that was so worried about her until she was able to stand on her own.
Thank you for taking the time to make an episode about this movie!! I've been requesting Belle since the "Your Name" episode. I got to see this movie in the theater opening weekend, and I've been in love with it ever since. I can't tell you what a gift your channel has been. As someone who went to school for both Psychology and Film, and getting to watch two professionals in each field talk about one of my favorite movies of all time and be just as excited about it as I am, it brings me so much joy. Thank you for all that you do!
Now if you want something that's the complete opposite tone of Belle, I suggest you guys watch Promare. High octane action, a loud and colorful cast, and masterclass animation from start to finish. I love it to death, but there's probably not a lot to talk about on the Therapy side of Cinema Therapy.
I love the movie Belle.
Suzu is one of the few characters I see myself in,
feeling alone, ugly and worthless, a waste of space and oxygen.
To see how she acts and grows in the film, from the awkward, shy and timid girl, to one with strength,
almost gives you hope, even though you know there is no happy ending for yourself in reality.
But it's always good to see at least one character you root for in a movie get it.
Stories help us see the world we want to be in. Your story is not over. I hope you will find a good therapist (or find another one if you have one and it’s not working for you). You are worth it and you are stronger than you know!
Mamoru Hasoda does such a great job writing teen anxt. If you haven't seen his other work I highly recommend it Summer Wars, Wolf Children, The Boy and the Beast. He's my favorite anime feature director
Thank you for doing this movie! It is one of my favorites. I love the theme about learning to be ok with just being yourself. Instead of another bad romance, it is a story about learning to love yourself.
This made me unspeakably happy to see pop up in my feed, it's just... this was a movie I was lucky to catch in theaters not long after the dub was first released, and hearing "Gales of Song" for the first time brought me to absolute tears as someone that also lost their mother early on (fresh into adulthood right at 18, right before life was gonna begin), and it was such an awakening to me back then. It's one of my favorite movies of all time, it explores the concept of grief and resolution, revolution, resolve, so much love of the arts, it's just such a beautiful movie.
The music in this movie never fails to pull at my heartstrings. There’s so much raw emotion and tenderness in it.
Every time I watch this movie I notice more themes and messages, cool connections. I also notice the movie's flaws, but I just love the movie more and more. I relate a lot with Suzu for several reasons, the music is AMAZING, the animation is kinda crazy but also simple but also beautiful, and the story touches me every time I watch it. I'm glad you guys watched it too! You surprised me by sharing even more connections and insights than I had even considered. Thank you guys for creating these videos and I hope you're doing well!
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Good news! You guys have covered another of the director's works before, Wolf Children! The director is Mamoru Hisoda, and his earlier films, namely Summer Wars, also had a lot of that sort of exaggerated posing and expressions, with the humor to boot. It's also another film that looked at the internet, though in a slightly different way than Belle. I would love to see you guys cover that film as it touches on a lot family interconnection and drama.
Also, back to gush on Belle, Mamoru Hisoda fell in love with animation again thanks to Disney's Beauty and the Beast, and there are a few shots of Belle in the Beast's castle from Belle that are frame for frame the same as they are in Beauty and the Beast! So this was a very special film for Hisoda to work on as he got to tell his version of this story.
My favorite thing about this movie is the fact that it is the director, Mamoru Hosoda's, 3rd movie dealing with human connection in cyberspace. Man really like that theme.
finally someone talks about this
it may not be perfect but it’s still heartbreaking and yet heartwarming
This is so good! Another musical related anime it would be awesome to see them react to is Your Lie in April. There's a lot to unpack there with all the different character dynamics.
The message of this movie the way that Suzu was struggling with her voice. I resonated with it so much. I loved it 😢
Belle has the best soundtrack
I can't watch this movie without crying, honestly; there's a lot of feelings and experiences I had a lot like both main characters. I know the depths of her grief since I went through it, too - there was a long period of time when my grielf was all-consuming, and I lost my artistic inclinations for years. My Grandmother, one of my biggest supporters in my life, was there for me when I was in and out of children's hospitals, and always cherished any artwork that I made for her, encouraging me when I started working on animated projects. Unfortunately, she developed a rare, aggressive ovarian cancer and died in 2021. I didn't draw, write, paint, sing, or do anything anything creative for 2 years. In losing my art, I lost my voice and almost myself.
Watching Belle ended up becoming a beacon of light when I was feeling so lost.
So many topics to civer, so litel time to do it in one comment. Allen and Johno are my mirror, since they said it themselves about this RUclips video. And so I will add that identity, imposter syndrom, fear of abandenment, all of those were here and well explained.
But mostly, how various characters are motifs in Suzu's journey: her dad who gives her so much space, her harsh, yet highly supportive bff, Ruka, Kamishin and Shinobu's opening ups. Hell, Peggy Sue going from hater to fan, all of these people are great representitives of Suzu's state of mind!
My favorite line in this movie as always been. ‘I can sing again’ like nothing in the world matter to her as much as that action.
Finally, I've been looking forward to the day you guys would talk about this movie. It's really good and one I would recommend to people and Suzu's arc throughout is great from being afraid to sing again due to grief from her mother's death and subsequent sacrifice to being confident in her singing ability again and saving someone else just like her mother did. This movie is one that makes me tear up or cry and especially the song at the end where suzu is thinking about her mother while singing hits me in the feels ❤
I think what makes the awkward confession scene so powerful is that it is a painfully relatable human moment. And this is in contrast to the world of U. Even the animation style is hand-drawn and more naturalistic in the "real world" where computer-generated animation is used in "the world of U".
This painful second-hand embarrassment moment is just as vibrant as the opulence of U, and I love how that contrast is shown with moments like this.
As someone who has been watching this channel for a couple years now, I’ve learned so much from you guys and have been able to grow with the lessons I’ve learned from these videos. Thank you for what you do.
I loved that you used the comments section scene from Ralph Breaks the Internet when talking about whether or not reading comments is healthy.❤ Do you think you'll do an episode about the sequel? Like a part 2 of Ralph and Vanellope learning about friendship and Ralph learning more about loving himself?
FINALLY! BEEN WAITING FOR YALL TO SEE THIS MOVIE 😭😭😭💜
Me too
me too ;///;
SAME!!
Finally 3 years later, I always hoped you would mention this movie. And now we get a whole episode, this already gets a like! Thank you so much for covering one of my favorite movies!❤❤
You're very welcome! ❤️
THIS! This anime resonated with me SO MUCH! I'm 41, and have a 12 year old son, but, he's SO much like me emotionally, and, I saw/see so much of myself and him in Suzu's character. Shy, reserved, impostor syndrome, and expression through creativity -- though his is more open. Me, I write under a pseudonym! lol But, I went to see this movie by myself in theaters, and I CRIED! Just all the lyrics of the songs, the animation -- like was said here, how it did so well with capturing real emotion -- and the way they showed internet hivemind, comments, adoration... It was all so overwhelming, and accurate. I really don't have enough words for what I felt/feel towards this movie... I went into just being a fan of any rendition of B&tB as a general story. But this...this ended up being SO much more, and, it even brings me to tears just commenting on your commentary. This was so beautifully done, and I'm so glad you guys covered this movie. Thank you. 💝
What a lovely episode. I wanna watch this movie now.
I lost one of my best friends in july, who helped me build my "core", who was there in crucial and magical times. I'm still coping with this loss, grief hits hard and often I can't take it. I noticed the first 2 months I was removing myself away from other connections, especially people who didn't know him and couldn't really understand his loss. I felt like I couldn't love them, and needed to reduce my connections so I wouldn't feel the pain I'm still feeling, whenever they are gone (since we will all be gone some day).
This last weekend, I noticed a change. I had a great time, also magical, with these newer friends in my life. Moments like this really matter. It is moments like this that makes life worth living. I'm still afraid of the future, especially worried about when I'll have to face more of this feeling again, this grief I didn't even coped with yet. But still, I'm glad I did not entirely shut them out.
Please do a separate video about the beast
Yes!!!
I have been strugling with my commitment to helping others given the choices recently to return to abuse rather than heal and move forward. Thank you for making this.
This movie made me sob as an adult who was abused as a child. It is so beautifully done.
Thank you both so much for choosing this movie, it’s so beautiful I really needed to hear and see this. It cradles the grief, the loss and the journey that we go through in life - reaching for something in a dark and lonely place to find that we are not alone in the darkness and we can still be seen.
Thanks again for finding another gem to watch that I don’t think I would have ever found ❤
The way I absolutely jumped to this video the second I saw it. I love this movie. It came out almost a year after my father's passing, so I absolutely resonated with Suzu and the pain she felt over the loss of her mom as well as a few other things. I do agree that the ending could've been longer and such, but it's still one of my favorite movies this decade
I'm so beyond happy you're talking about this one! I got to see the first USA screening of "Belle" and it meant the world to me, especially as a lowkey "Beauty and the Beast" historian.
I love this movie!
Specifically, I love the art and animation direction of it. So they did something interesting with the animation styles to set the real world and the virtual worlds apart. They animated the real world as you normally would with anime: 2D animation that is drawn. For the virtual world, they used 3D animation, but it’s stylized in such a way that it isn’t obvious until Belle is unmasked as Suzu and she looks and moves very differently from how she would in the real world. That’s because of the difference in animation styles!! I love details like that in animated films.
There’s a similar thing going on in Wolfwalkers. To make the wild and the town very different settings, the town and townspeople all are made from very geometric shapes, but the woods and the people and animals living there are very fluid and sketchy.
I loved every single performance by Kylie McNeil throughout the English dub version of this movie, and I have been patiently waiting for this video to pop up on my daily feed. Thank you so much guys!
Omg yesssss ❤❤❤❤❤❤ I’m so happy you guys are reviewing Belle 🥰💕💕💕
You guys really reacted to BELLE?! I can’t believe it !! 😭😭 thank you so much for this!!!🥹🥹💕💕
26:20 that’s such a beautiful analogy 🥹 thank you for making this video ✨🙏🏼
I've been curious about this movie for a while - thanks for doing a video on it! Hope you do "Tokyo Godfathers" next, another underrated anime film
Man while this movie was messy in places, I LOVE IT. When it wants to hit me with emotion it HITS HARD.
The reveal of the Beast is gut wrenching and Suzus final song hits deep for me, as someone who also struggles with imposter syndrome and i find myself thinking of it when I need an emotional push ❤
I love how Jono and Alan talk about this movie like they've watched it a million times. 😂
That just warms my heart. ❤
4:34 The laundry basket handle is broken. I own several of those and they are all broken. Is this the way those baskets are supposed to be? The animators sure thought so. Genius!
YASS FINALLY!! I have been WAITING for y'all to react to this one
20:38 I believe those are the first crocks to be animated 😂. I love the fashion of this movie and I enjoyed your commentary thanks.
I remember seeing this in theaters. This is one of my favorite animated movies along with Suzume that wasn't made by Studio Ghibli or Disney
That trauma you discuss within Suzu, the idea that no one will ever see her or choose her truthfully and honestly, linking back to the idea that her mother chose a stranger over Suzu, dying saving a stranger instead of living safely with Suzu, it made me realize something about my own self worth issues.
Trauma Dump incoming, but I’ll try to keep it vague. I was adopted at birth since my birth mom got pregnant as a teen and my birth dad couldn’t be with her for his own life-related reasons. I was adopted into a family where I had a sister the same age as me, and our birthdays were a couple weeks apart. My adoptive parents got a divorce when I was young, and throughout all of that they explained my situation pretty well to me over the years. I understood why my original parents couldn’t take care of me, I understood why my current parents got their divorce, and I was just as understanding whenever my sister would have more severe issues than I ever did, whether it was mental health, physical health, emotional regulation, toxic relationships, dire financial straits. And I was understanding as my custodial parent’s health started to decline, and I was the one expected to help her with more and more things. The problem is that I have a hard time squaring this idea of me as a helper and caretaker with my original ideas of myself. I never wanted this to be my life, but the universe put me into this situation through a thousand other situations. I have felt over the course of my life that everyone else around me has needs more important than my own. A lot of times, the consequences of their needs not getting met are pain, financial hardship, illness, and sometimes it seems like death as well. My needs never get so drastic. I’ve never been in that much trouble before. I’ve been somewhat of a coward, a hermit, keeping myself far away from harm’s reach, but also far away from most experiences my peers have already had. And the fact that a lot of the time, the people around me have these drastic needs that they cannot fulfill themselves, or rely on the other people around me to fulfill, means that every burden eventually falls on me, whether they mean it to or not. My needs never really seem to matter to the people around me, my family, and I’ve cut myself off from so many people who could’ve introduced something a little different to my life, because I am shackled by these burdens, by my understanding and morality. I am so paralyzed by the weight of all of it that I can barely meet my own needs anymore.
TL;DR, my self worth issues stem from the idea that I was probably a mistake, but I persist anyway, and not many people have given me the attention I felt I needed, since a lot of the time other people’s needs are more dire than my own. I’m not anyone’s first choice, and I understand that but I still struggle to see why anyone chooses me at all when I seem like this massive inconvenience.
@@v.v365 Nothing to add. Was just shocked by how much I had in common with what you described. I get what you mean.
Haha I love cranky old man allen. Taking on the internet babies. 👶🤣
Two things spoke to me here:
- "If I have it in me for someone else, maybe I have it in me for ME..."
- "In order to be loved, I have to be seen. And to be seen, I have to reveal myself."
I skipped First Grade, so I've always been the smallest and youngest in my classes. Least mature as well, both Emotionally, as well as Physically. That made me an easy target for everyone else in my peer groups. Didn't get any better throughout School. That left me with a lot of time to watch everyone else having fun together and feel I wasn't worth anyone else's time. But if I saw something happen, like a car wreck or someone's purse get stolen (yes, real life examples, of which there are more) I'd be right there to try to help. I never understood why I had this "Hero Complex" before, but that first line has given me something to think about.
And as a Watcher of Anime, and Romance Anime in particular, the thing I've noticed for couples getting together in the anime, and what I've felt in Real life, is that to truly fall in love with someone and them fall in love with you, you have to be able to relax enough to be yourself with them, and for them to do the same with you. Horimiya is an anime that I think shows this to a great degree. Guy is quiet and doesn't stand out at all, shy and probably no friends at all at school. But outside of school, he's heavily pierced and tattooed and loses his glasses in favor of Contacts, but still a kind person. The Girl, she tends to be popular at school, but she still keeps people at arms length so they don't find out how she's constantly looking after her little brother and family home. (A life she actually seems to enjoy, but for high school kids is seen as a drag...) One day little brother gets hurt, and "Big Bro" happens to be nearby and helps him home. The girl doesn't realize this 'Cool Guy' is the 'Dweeb' from her class at first! Little Brother insists he stay and come back and it becomes a daily routine for them. They end up liking that they have this 'little secret' of their true selves between each other. If you haven't seen it yet, it is hilarious and heart touching at the same time! I highly recommend it.
Another one is "The Angel Next Door Spoils Me Rotten." Seriously a wholesome romance where this pair of students live alone for their own reasons, and one kind gesture leads to another and over time the School "Angel" ends up having feelings for the Loner Boy that only seems to have one other friend. (I sense a pattern in my anime recommendations here...) Over the course of the series they reveal her family life, and his issues at a previous school that led them to where they are now. And it's precisely their lack of pretense at home that lead to them falling for each other.
Anyway, this is a lot longer and probably more self-revealing than I had intended. But thank you so much for reviewing Belle! Saw it in theaters and even have a framed copy of the mini-poster they gave out at the showing! And now I sense a Re-watch is going to happen today. And I'll be keeping these themes in mind as I re-watch it! ~ Cheers!
cried my eyes out watching this movie and now cried my eyes out watching this analysis.