Bro, the father having ties with fatui and used a delusion, the mother possibly being part of the hexenzirkel, the step brother having khaenriah lineage, and Diluc doing Batman work in mondstadt and was targetted by the abyss order. Ragnvindr family is crazy man💀
@@selumari4141 Just like Alice is often responsible for pulling the strings behind the scenes/ interfering with various events throughout time, so do the rest of the Hexenzirkel members. Their organization appears to have deeper purposes beyond what we currently know the details of and the members are hundreds of years old, many from other worlds interfering with this world's events (Teyvat). We knew Diluc's family had to hold a significance role, we just didn't know what/how until now. Kaeya's dad didn't leave him with some random family (who does that lol), and we now know what that missing link was! And there's still mysterious surrounding why Diluc's dad had a special fatui delusion (not like others) as to his full identity (he was a powerful individual with more than appears just like Diluc's mom no doubt).
Actually, It's more likely it's his grandmother, great grandmother given the time of this tea party in the cutscene. They have been many successes of J since that tea party took place. Meaning that their family was descended from that witch to have so many heirlooms in the house. Or Diluc's mother is also immortal but that would be noted as she would have been in the family for hundreds of years.
Considering that most people in Teyvat have passive perception worse than Dr. Dooffenschimirtz I'd argue if Diluc's mom was immortal it would be unnoticed.
Honestly time line in genshin is more mixed up than a jumbled rubix cube. There are plenty reasons it could still be his mom. She could be immortal (like some of the other witches) or she could have ended up like Faruzan who got trapped in a place while time passed in the outside world. It's good to keep avenues open.
Honestly, Alice being a friend of Diluc’s mom makes complete sense. It’s the same reason Albedo calls her “Aunt Alice,” she was a friend of Rhinedottir (Albedo’s “mom”). Albedo isn’t her child, yet she treats him as such since Rhinedottir is dead (??). It wouldn’t be too far fetched to assume she might to the same with Diluc.
I doubt rhinedottir would be dead, thats kinda just bad or weird writing (imo) especially since it seems albedo has only been around in the past few years in mond, and the last 2 albedo events always drop smth big about both him and rhinedottir.
Rhinedottir is most likely not dead. According to theories she might be in the abyss. We can confirm this as the rift wolves and hounds are her creations. So it's a chance we might meet her in khanrehia or in a dainsleif quest
Rhinedottir is probably not dead, she was a Khaenri’ah 500 years ago and many believe in game she perpetrated the Cataclysm (which I personally think is more complex) and we know Khaenri’ahn’s (pure blooded) became Immortals so Rhinedottir is probably immortal.
Rhindottir isnt confirmed dead. She's dissapeared. And yes albedo isnt his son. He was a homonculi created by rhindottir through durin. She also by chance created many monsters in teyvat by accidentally mutated her creation. It was unclear if rifthound was created for malicious reason or not. Some suggest her creation is not malicious in nature but got corrupted by abyss power.
Just a teapot, and a whole new book of mysteries about Diluc and his origins teases us. Hahaha, as a casual lore enjoyer I could never notice such small details like these.
Probably a coincidence, but with this theory emerging i'm starting to think that it might not be at all. It is stated ingame that Diluc's birthday is April 30th, which is the Walpurgisnacht, the day when witches gather. This makes too much sense to be a coincidence tbh. Hoyoverse is never lazy in dropping lore hints.
This is theory is too good to be false. Everything makes sense. Btw, as you said, we have the Sevens, the Harbringers and now the Hexenzirkel. I think the only group left is the organization Diluc works for.
@@thelostdeadkid I looked it up, but I don’t really consider them a group, especially since Andrius and Dvalin are creatures. When I say “group”, I’m talking about pure humans or entities that have taken a human form (like the archons).
It would explain why Diluc's father was so desperate for power. He felt helpless being in his wife's shadow all the time. And when his son turned out to be just as talented as his wife, he grew desperate and fell to the temptation of the forbidden power of Delusion. I believe in the theory of Diluc's mom being a Mage. But Diluc's father being a Harbinger? No.
Yeah, maybe he joined the Fatui to get the delusion but absolutely not as a harbinger. Without a vision, reputation in Snezhnaya nor outstanding academic accomplishments there is no way they would just make him a Harbinger. Pantalone is much richer, Pulcinella is a public figure, Dottore is a scholar and the rest is much stronger in battle without reliance on Fatui given delusion.
Ehhhh i dont think that's what happened....... Maybe he just wanted to be strong so he could protect his kids, lol And it's not even confirmed if it was diluc's mother in the groupor his ancestor
@@sabsain2399 ye, agreed. How about this? He felt like he wasn't enough to protect his son, compared to his wife who was extraordinary in every sense. To be as great as her and to be able to protect their son without her help, maybe he fell to the temptation of a Delusion.
I'd like to believe that if Diluc's mom was really the witch, she must've met his dad when he was already collaborating with the Fatui in his search for power. The Fatui plotting to dispose of a weak link like Crepus using Dottore in the webtoon would make sense if his allegiances and loyalty wavered and he became sussy after now having a family to protect. Why would they have him, the head of a powerful clan in mondstadt, killed if they could still use him like that?
Now the sus room in Diluc house is not sus anymore and Adelinde is not a canni... So if Diluc's mom is/was a witch then in the susy room is a portal (cuz guest come in but not come out) and Adelinde know about it or maybe she is also a witch like Scarlet :)
It would make sense that they first show us 8 witches in the beginning but only 7 seats at the table since J left hexenzirkel and then died so there would no longer be a need for the extra chair
you're right but i'm not sure about j dying, didn't Alice ask scarlett to tell her how j's married life is in her hometown? it kind of implies they just lost contact after j leaving. idk maybe I missed something
@@angiepangie4773 I assumed she died since Scarlett pointed out that J was a mortal unlike other members of hexenzirkel and since she left over 100 years ago she probably died of old age
SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVENT DONE CARIBERT QUEST********** It makes sense we will be learning more about Dilucs past since in the Caribert quest we learn more about Kaeya's life and his family were from Khaenri'ah. Kaeya and Diluc are brothers.
I do think that it's possible for a Ragnvindr woman to be a part of the Hexenzirkel, I don't believe it was Diluc's mother. First off, let's make it clear that she didn't kill Crepus. Because in the manga, it was Diluc who ended his suffering, not his mother. His mother was never present in his life as when Diluc and Kaeya recall memoirs of their childhood, they only ever mention each other or Crepus. And if it was his mother, she would've been in the family for hundreds of years if she was old enough to hear the story of Albedo's "birth". Which is why I believe that although it could be a woman a part of the Ragnvindr line, it's likely that it's one of the ancestors and the teapot that used to be used for the tea parties for the Hexenzirkel ended up being a family heirloom if she ended up retiring.
It feels so nice having more actual monstadt lore after basically none since the first Windblume festival (not counting Dragonspine cause I count that as its own lore disconnected from Monstadt.)
@@PersonWhoIsTired Ah yes. I remember we learned so much lore about Monstadt in that event like…. Um… They celebrate more than 1 Festival a year! :D Wait we already knew that cause Ludi Harpastum that we have yet to celebrate huh? Um… Wait wait wait don’t tell me… 😂
Oh I forgot about the other details on that letter! But to be honest, I find it a bit odd for Alice to offer that to Diluc just because he didn't get mad at Klee for that incident. I mean, that would have been superficial for me, so it makes a lot of sense why Alice would offer that because she is friends with Diluc's mother. Just like how she treated Albedo (because of Gold). I can't wait for this to be actually canon 😜😆🧡
@Bartosz technically diluc is from the same tribe that vanessa came from and those people are called the children of murata so if himeko is not his mother it does not mean that he can’t be called her child
I still believe that his father is the 10the fatui harbringer.. Did her mother do something to make people forget about him and think the 10the spot is alway empty?
@@hisyammarzuqi55 I think ashikai made a video about it. She gave a pretty good point about how Crepus could be a harbinger. I don't think they forgot about, maybe it's just a secret only the highest ranking fatuis know of. Maybe crepus was a double agent? Idk u should watch ashikai's video. It's about the constellations of the harbingers. The new one not the old one
Now that I look at the scene clearly and listen to the characters my biggest guess on who are the witches are Alice Dilucs mum Monas teacher/master (there was huge shooting star that could reflect astrology Lisa maybe (because of the purple lantern) The other 2 maybe absent because one could have died( la signora was the hellfire witch so she might been one) And the other could be another mondstat character we haven’t met Edit: it the last one could be albedos master since there was a potion with a boy inside symbolising albedo
diluc dad have possible connection to the fatui(maybe a ex harbinger) and his mother have possible connection to hexenzirkel very sussy and possible both his parent was the creator of dilusion
Biggest plot twist, the pyro archon isnt the Himeko xp it's actually Dilucs mom who is the Himeko xp 🤣 But seriously I'm not sure about this, however it would be pretty cool if it was true and it doesn't have to be his mom. If this witch is one of the immortal ones in the group then she could end up being Diluc great grandmother.
I know u said it as a joke, but th owner of that teapot is DEFFO from Ragnvindr and she may genshin's "version" of Himeko, or there may be VERY similar parallels Like Wendy and Venti, or Raiden Mei and Raiden Ei Also also also the Ragnvindrs are (i think) descendants of Murata and whats Himeko's name? Murata Himeko
@@Orii-2 i think honkai himeko ended up in natlan after her final battle cuz we only saw her falling into the sea of quanta which we know is connecting all off hoyoverse canonicly. so she might have washed in natlan and was save by the pyro archon who few thousand years ago... and murata clan came from her, we know murata clan goes as far back as 2k years ago.
@@Orii-2 i think that technically Jean's family is a descendant of Murata. one of their character stories mentions something like "another family with red hair." Diluc's ancestor with red hair is specifically the Dawn Knight, so that specific detail may be less likely
Yeah, only 5 talks and 7 sits are there, but we know more members... Alice, Rhinedottir, Barbeloth (Mona's master), Andersdotter ("M", the one who wrote the Boar's Princess), Ivanovna ( "J", the one the letter was for and killed her husband out of pity) and Nicole ("N", the voice that talks to us after the archon quest) I don't think the teapot is that big of a deal actually. It's a nice theory, but if you look at the table in the event, there are multiple sets of that teapot and cups I think that they just put it there because it's pretty And even if the theory is right, it could be a great great great grandma of Diluc, since we know there are other mortal members and it could be a situation similar to Ivanovna, where she passed on her title and teapot For the part about Alice trying to adopt Diluc, i think it's just Alice being Alice. In her guide to Teyvat she writes about how she literally tried to kidnap/adopt Yoimiya because she likes her and feel close to her
For the windblume event, could the reason be that despite there being 8 hex witches there were only 7 chairs because the 8th chair belonged to signora and when she went fatui it effectively excommunicated her?
Alright so let me get this straight. Father? Dead. Mother? Witch. Adoptive Brother? Spy. Him? Batman. Y'all sure he ain't the main protagonist of Teyvat?
I think she was an ancestor of Diluc, as in the event quest she was said to have died years ago, and has had many successors since then. And Diluc’s mother did not kill his father, by the webtoon that’s for sure. Also Baby Albedo in the test tube bottle is just too cute 💖
I think that dilucs mom took diluc to the hexenzirkel meetings. She might have left diluc at the hexenzirkel and go off to a mission and died there. That might be why Alice sayed that in her letter as she might have raised him too
Bro, Diluc is batman, his father has Fatui ties and a delusion, his brother has Khaenri'an lineage, and his mother is theorized a witch What is going on in this mans life
Diluc holds so much firepower potential, he got a vision at the age of 10, Crepus couldn't draw an eagle painting properly then there's Diluc who magically created a perfect image using fire, he also suffered no drawbacks after using a delusion for years while his dad died after using it once. If this doesn't imply Diluc's power came from his mom I don't know what does
Didn't Alice tell Diluc in his skin story quest that he could think of her as a mother, in her letter to him? It would imply that he did have a mother but she passed.
miHoYo is sitting there and shiting themselves omg I was just lazy and copied pasta the shit. There's no lore behind it and there're people out there who noticed this!! omg I need to create some more lore now.
Maybe that's why Diluc has a special constitution that's able to handle wearing a delusion and not get side effects. Maybe something to do with his witch ancestry.
I did have a moment of speculation about the tea set because its colors are so vibrant that it looks out of place in the cutscene. I never thought it might’ve had such an important backstory 😂
Henxenzirkel = Coven in German. Why did they use the german word for it ? Is it because the Event was in Mondstadt? Maybe there is a connection between Witches and Mondstadt ?
Could be cuz it's an event in Mondstadt which is inspired by Germany. Also, they did want to fight Barbatos who then had them change their mind and instead had them gather for tea parties instead. Perhaps it's a little nod to that?
I think that it might be along the lines of a great-great-grandmother, since otherwise his mom would’ve had to be hundreds of years old, and that’s pretty strange. Also, if it is his great great grandmother, I think it’s possible that it was M, due to the line saying something like “my lifespan is much shorter than yours, I can leave you with my storybook” and M, being the storybook writer, is the one with the shortest lifespan. So it’d be possible for her to be a great great grandma
I'm more positive it's not his mother, more like aunty maybe. Because if diluc mother is hexe, he will be have more harsh personality due to absent of his parent
My opinion remains that we have a rerun of Suabaru's experience in re:zero with the witches here. They are all pretty much one and the same at this point of the memory.
Help i don't remember what happened in re:zero!! TwT But i instantly thought of it when the hexenzirkel/tea party was mentioned!! >w< Not evil, but just all about discovery, and maybe they do morally grey things sometimes for it??
Now it makes sense when diluc defeated dottore assistant in one strike (dottore conducted fake god experiments and collei and assistant is also his experiments)
Wow your eyes are very sharp i hardly notice that but i think she will/not be mentioned by the last 2 people who wasnt told in the windblume festival and probably shes still alive/sealed is what im thinking or like the former dendro archon that was forgotten.
Personally, i think it's a stretch, It feels circumstancal, i doubt cause a tea cup in 1 area now a similar looking one is somewhere else is means something like that, especially since No where in this game was this brought up, nor mentioned. To me, this is Alice giving Diluc a tea set.
If only the tea set in the manor were the same, I could see this argument. But since it's also featured in his clothes and in the manor's rug, this objection doesn't hold up as well.
@@the_knut I doubt it, since: -No One talks about Diluc's Mother, not the Knights, Maids/servents of the manor, no records, books or old ancient tablets, also not even in the Comics or any 3rd party promotional stuff. And Remember, your basing this off a Color scheme, nothing definitive, especially since The Tea Cup has a Design on it, that shows up nowhere, not even on the Ragnvindr Family Crest. Cause at this point, I'm going to assume Alice gave Diluc the carpet, attire, since she said she was going to look after him ever sense Crepus's Death. And Remember the games been pretty good (not perfect) with giving you clues and stuff to put stuff together, so if they wanted to say out of the Blue, Diluc has a Mother, they gotta do ALOT more than just some tea set.
@@Strykerx31 you are reaching, lol. exactly because it's a game this kind of foreshadowing shows more than it would show in any other type of media, specially in genshin where characters that we've never seen are covered in mysteries and any clue is a big clue. This proves itself as true with Nicole, the "N" member of Hexenzirkel that is titled as a good compass and is able to talk inside our heads, since our own character thinks the same, that's why we have no reason to doubt that it was Nahida (for any reason, lol) or Istaroth or anybody else. It most probably *is* Nicole indeed.
@@limesyy What are you even talking about? It safe to Assume N is that due to enough reasonable evidence to make that conclusion, but that's not what i saying. I'm saying it's grasping at straws to assume, that Diluc's Mother is a Witch STRICTLY based on a matching Tea set, and nothing else, no records, witnesses, Testimonials from anyone prior. At least they clearly showed and we can safely assume was Albedo being created.
Doesnt have to be his mom. Could be his ancestor since its heavily implied that Alice met the witches way back before the Cataclysm The witch is definitely from Diluc's clan but unless there are supporting arguments that Diluc's mother is not a human, then I would not consider her to be the same person as the witch
doubt its diluc's mom, maybe a great great grandma.... his mom passed away based on the lore from his outfit short story we had XD... she might be just a dscendant and it feels like alice looks after all the dscendands kids : diluc, albedo, mona...
Here me out, I saw the theory somewhere else about Crepus being one of the fatui harbingers, The Fatui Harbinger, known for being brutal, burning everything to the ground with flames so hot that even the land of ice and snow can’t snuff them out. One day on a mission he catches a glimpse of a beautiful young woman. He falls in love instantly, and pursues her. They fall in live and Crepus decides to put down the mantle of Harbinger but still keeping his mask and delusion, so the woman also tells him her secret. They marry and soon she finds that she is pregnant with a child. Once the child is born they spend their life happy for some time before she either gets murdered or has to go away like Alice, but still wanting to leave something to show Crepus and Diluc that she loves them, she leaves behind her tea set.
some 3d artist: "aint now way i would spent a few hours on this teapot set..." *looks at game files "this will do" *5 days later "i fu@# up... we fuc@& up..."
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Bro, the father having ties with fatui and used a delusion, the mother possibly being part of the hexenzirkel, the step brother having khaenriah lineage, and Diluc doing Batman work in mondstadt and was targetted by the abyss order.
Ragnvindr family is crazy man💀
And also the step brother having as ancestor the creator of abyss order
read the manga if you wanna see what Diluc did before the events in the game xD
so crazy that snezhnaya had to ban batman from their country
@@sunpaul2427 I literally reread the manga 5 times of how good it is
Suddenly remember this almost similar kind of family dynamic in SPY x family. The Forger family 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Now it makes sense what significant connections/roles Diluc's family play for Kaeya's dad to leave him with Ragnvindr Family!!
Can u elaborate plz?
@@selumari4141 Just like Alice is often responsible for pulling the strings behind the scenes/ interfering with various events throughout time, so do the rest of the Hexenzirkel members. Their organization appears to have deeper purposes beyond what we currently know the details of and the members are hundreds of years old, many from other worlds interfering with this world's events (Teyvat). We knew Diluc's family had to hold a significance role, we just didn't know what/how until now. Kaeya's dad didn't leave him with some random family (who does that lol), and we now know what that missing link was! And there's still mysterious surrounding why Diluc's dad had a special fatui delusion (not like others) as to his full identity (he was a powerful individual with more than appears just like Diluc's mom no doubt).
@@bobafrost7366 tyvm for explaining!
@@selumari4141 Diluc's mother is part of an ancient organization that's meddled in significant events throughout time, in other words.
@@selumari4141 You're welcome!!
Actually, It's more likely it's his grandmother, great grandmother given the time of this tea party in the cutscene. They have been many successes of J since that tea party took place. Meaning that their family was descended from that witch to have so many heirlooms in the house. Or Diluc's mother is also immortal but that would be noted as she would have been in the family for hundreds of years.
Can't believe no one pointed this out until now
Or maybe his mother was immortal, but only joined the family after marrying Crepus Ragnvindr.
Same thoughts
Considering that most people in Teyvat have passive perception worse than Dr. Dooffenschimirtz I'd argue if Diluc's mom was immortal it would be unnoticed.
Honestly time line in genshin is more mixed up than a jumbled rubix cube. There are plenty reasons it could still be his mom. She could be immortal (like some of the other witches) or she could have ended up like Faruzan who got trapped in a place while time passed in the outside world. It's good to keep avenues open.
Honestly, Alice being a friend of Diluc’s mom makes complete sense. It’s the same reason Albedo calls her “Aunt Alice,” she was a friend of Rhinedottir (Albedo’s “mom”).
Albedo isn’t her child, yet she treats him as such since Rhinedottir is dead (??). It wouldn’t be too far fetched to assume she might to the same with Diluc.
I doubt rhinedottir would be dead, thats kinda just bad or weird writing (imo) especially since it seems albedo has only been around in the past few years in mond, and the last 2 albedo events always drop smth big about both him and rhinedottir.
Rhinedottir is most likely not dead. According to theories she might be in the abyss. We can confirm this as the rift wolves and hounds are her creations. So it's a chance we might meet her in khanrehia or in a dainsleif quest
Rhinedottir is probably not dead, she was a Khaenri’ah 500 years ago and many believe in game she perpetrated the Cataclysm (which I personally think is more complex) and we know Khaenri’ahn’s (pure blooded) became Immortals so Rhinedottir is probably immortal.
Rhindottir isnt confirmed dead. She's dissapeared. And yes albedo isnt his son. He was a homonculi created by rhindottir through durin. She also by chance created many monsters in teyvat by accidentally mutated her creation. It was unclear if rifthound was created for malicious reason or not. Some suggest her creation is not malicious in nature but got corrupted by abyss power.
@@aetius7139 oh my gosh imaging a non corrupt riftwolf IT’D BE LIKE A LITTLE PUPPY AWWWW
Just a teapot, and a whole new book of mysteries about Diluc and his origins teases us. Hahaha, as a casual lore enjoyer I could never notice such small details like these.
The cutscene artist who just took a prop to trace over for convenience: "....well fuck"
Probably a coincidence, but with this theory emerging i'm starting to think that it might not be at all. It is stated ingame that Diluc's birthday is April 30th, which is the Walpurgisnacht, the day when witches gather.
This makes too much sense to be a coincidence tbh. Hoyoverse is never lazy in dropping lore hints.
Holy shit... holy shit!!! That detail is amazing! Thanks for bringing it up!
This is theory is too good to be false. Everything makes sense. Btw, as you said, we have the Sevens, the Harbringers and now the Hexenzirkel. I think the only group left is the organization Diluc works for.
What about the four wind
@@thelostdeadkid Ohhh I didn’t know about that one. Who are they?
@@thelostdeadkid That's Venti's Crew.
@@2nd_of_the_Fatui_Harbingers just go look it for yourself
@@thelostdeadkid I looked it up, but I don’t really consider them a group, especially since Andrius and Dvalin are creatures. When I say “group”, I’m talking about pure humans or entities that have taken a human form (like the archons).
as a diluc main im really excited to know more lore about him
It would explain why Diluc's father was so desperate for power. He felt helpless being in his wife's shadow all the time. And when his son turned out to be just as talented as his wife, he grew desperate and fell to the temptation of the forbidden power of Delusion. I believe in the theory of Diluc's mom being a Mage. But Diluc's father being a Harbinger? No.
Yeah, maybe he joined the Fatui to get the delusion but absolutely not as a harbinger. Without a vision, reputation in Snezhnaya nor outstanding academic accomplishments there is no way they would just make him a Harbinger. Pantalone is much richer, Pulcinella is a public figure, Dottore is a scholar and the rest is much stronger in battle without reliance on Fatui given delusion.
Ehhhh i dont think that's what happened.......
Maybe he just wanted to be strong so he could protect his kids, lol
And it's not even confirmed if it was diluc's mother in the groupor his ancestor
@@sabsain2399 ye, agreed. How about this? He felt like he wasn't enough to protect his son, compared to his wife who was extraordinary in every sense. To be as great as her and to be able to protect their son without her help, maybe he fell to the temptation of a Delusion.
I'd like to believe that if Diluc's mom was really the witch, she must've met his dad when he was already collaborating with the Fatui in his search for power. The Fatui plotting to dispose of a weak link like Crepus using Dottore in the webtoon would make sense if his allegiances and loyalty wavered and he became sussy after now having a family to protect. Why would they have him, the head of a powerful clan in mondstadt, killed if they could still use him like that?
no. from what we know the family always was in power... and he just wanted a vision and got tricked by the abyss mages not the fatui
I was so bummed that Diluc, Jean and Kaeya didn't come up in the windblome event but I guess this is good too
Now the sus room in Diluc house is not sus anymore and Adelinde is not a canni...
So if Diluc's mom is/was a witch then in the susy room is a portal (cuz guest come in but not come out) and Adelinde know about it or maybe she is also a witch like Scarlet :)
I would've dismissed it as them reusing a fancy teapot, but the fact that same pattern is on his coat and rug
is insane
there's also one in diluc's bartender outfit his star badge kinda looks like the star symbol in the hexenzirkel
It would make sense that they first show us 8 witches in the beginning but only 7 seats at the table since J left hexenzirkel and then died so there would no longer be a need for the extra chair
you're right but i'm not sure about j dying, didn't Alice ask scarlett to tell her how j's married life is in her hometown? it kind of implies they just lost contact after j leaving. idk maybe I missed something
@@angiepangie4773 I assumed she died since Scarlett pointed out that J was a mortal unlike other members of hexenzirkel and since she left over 100 years ago she probably died of old age
@@revanreturns5050 probably because we also hear one said "my lifespan is nothing compared to yours"
M died too, but they didnt remove the chair
Or maybe one ascended godhood? (If thats possible idk)
Oh this tiny detail got me hyped ! Thanks for pointing it out, it is a very interesting theory
A person who pronounces a german word right? Finally..
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It makes sense we will be learning more about Dilucs past since in the Caribert quest we learn more about Kaeya's life and his family were from Khaenri'ah. Kaeya and Diluc are brothers.
Person who decided to reuse the teapot as an asset: Write that down! Write that Down!
I do think that it's possible for a Ragnvindr woman to be a part of the Hexenzirkel, I don't believe it was Diluc's mother. First off, let's make it clear that she didn't kill Crepus. Because in the manga, it was Diluc who ended his suffering, not his mother. His mother was never present in his life as when Diluc and Kaeya recall memoirs of their childhood, they only ever mention each other or Crepus. And if it was his mother, she would've been in the family for hundreds of years if she was old enough to hear the story of Albedo's "birth". Which is why I believe that although it could be a woman a part of the Ragnvindr line, it's likely that it's one of the ancestors and the teapot that used to be used for the tea parties for the Hexenzirkel ended up being a family heirloom if she ended up retiring.
if something is very obvious then is true, never ignore "Patterns" in genshin
It feels so nice having more actual monstadt lore after basically none since the first Windblume festival (not counting Dragonspine cause I count that as its own lore disconnected from Monstadt.)
That moment that we had Weinlesefest and Diluc's event giving us lore for Mondstadt characters before this second Windblume... 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
@@PersonWhoIsTired Ah yes. I remember we learned so much lore about Monstadt in that event like…. Um… They celebrate more than 1 Festival a year! :D Wait we already knew that cause Ludi Harpastum that we have yet to celebrate huh? Um… Wait wait wait don’t tell me… 😂
Oh I forgot about the other details on that letter! But to be honest, I find it a bit odd for Alice to offer that to Diluc just because he didn't get mad at Klee for that incident. I mean, that would have been superficial for me, so it makes a lot of sense why Alice would offer that because she is friends with Diluc's mother. Just like how she treated Albedo (because of Gold).
I can't wait for this to be actually canon 😜😆🧡
Now i need to look at every tea set ever in the game
Now THAT is a great eye for detail! Well done!
This would explain the absurd combat talent that Diluc was born with and why Alice went looking for him when he was younger, it would be interesting
DILUC LORE YESSS
i see himeko coming in the way
His dad died so Himeko is saved
@@redsusoverparadise2700 do you seriously think that changes shit???
@Bartosz technically diluc is from the same tribe that vanessa came from and those people are called the children of murata so if himeko is not his mother it does not mean that he can’t be called her child
Love that the archon fanart is still getting used up to now
combine a likely fatui harbinger with a witch from the hexenzirkel and u get a batman.
I still believe that his father is the 10the fatui harbringer.. Did her mother do something to make people forget about him and think the 10the spot is alway empty?
@@hisyammarzuqi55 I think ashikai made a video about it. She gave a pretty good point about how Crepus could be a harbinger. I don't think they forgot about, maybe it's just a secret only the highest ranking fatuis know of. Maybe crepus was a double agent? Idk u should watch ashikai's video. It's about the constellations of the harbingers. The new one not the old one
In fact you can find the same teacup in the KoF HQ during the PAC MAN event, right in the waiting room.
Now that I look at the scene clearly and listen to the characters my biggest guess on who are the witches are
Alice
Dilucs mum
Monas teacher/master (there was huge shooting star that could reflect astrology
Lisa maybe (because of the purple lantern)
The other 2 maybe absent because one could have died( la signora was the hellfire witch so she might been one)
And the other could be another mondstat character we haven’t met
Edit: it the last one could be albedos master since there was a potion with a boy inside symbolising albedo
The actual cut scene on the official Genshin RUclips vid has the names of said witches in the description
@@cookiipride0gurl NO WAY
diluc dad have possible connection to the fatui(maybe a ex harbinger) and his mother have possible connection to hexenzirkel very sussy and possible both his parent was the creator of dilusion
Biggest plot twist, the pyro archon isnt the Himeko xp it's actually Dilucs mom who is the Himeko xp 🤣
But seriously I'm not sure about this, however it would be pretty cool if it was true and it doesn't have to be his mom. If this witch is one of the immortal ones in the group then she could end up being Diluc great grandmother.
I know u said it as a joke, but th owner of that teapot is DEFFO from Ragnvindr and she may genshin's "version" of Himeko, or there may be VERY similar parallels
Like Wendy and Venti, or Raiden Mei and Raiden Ei
Also also also the Ragnvindrs are (i think) descendants of Murata and whats Himeko's name?
Murata Himeko
and then they'll say something like there are 7 pyro archons of some sorts XD
@@Orii-2 i think honkai himeko ended up in natlan after her final battle cuz we only saw her falling into the sea of quanta which we know is connecting all off hoyoverse canonicly. so she might have washed in natlan and was save by the pyro archon who few thousand years ago... and murata clan came from her, we know murata clan goes as far back as 2k years ago.
@@yukichan177 3rd descender?…. 🤔
@@Orii-2 i think that technically Jean's family is a descendant of Murata. one of their character stories mentions something like "another family with red hair." Diluc's ancestor with red hair is specifically the Dawn Knight, so that specific detail may be less likely
People have been so busy cooking 2 lore bomb in this week 🗿
Yeah, only 5 talks and 7 sits are there, but we know more members...
Alice, Rhinedottir, Barbeloth (Mona's master), Andersdotter ("M", the one who wrote the Boar's Princess), Ivanovna ( "J", the one the letter was for and killed her husband out of pity) and Nicole ("N", the voice that talks to us after the archon quest)
I don't think the teapot is that big of a deal actually. It's a nice theory, but if you look at the table in the event, there are multiple sets of that teapot and cups
I think that they just put it there because it's pretty
And even if the theory is right, it could be a great great great grandma of Diluc, since we know there are other mortal members and it could be a situation similar to Ivanovna, where she passed on her title and teapot
For the part about Alice trying to adopt Diluc, i think it's just Alice being Alice. In her guide to Teyvat she writes about how she literally tried to kidnap/adopt Yoimiya because she likes her and feel close to her
Im so happy my baby can get more lore and info about his past and familly uwu
Legit didn’t notice before. Too busy doing my own thing to see that since I’m using the alternate Diluc skin mostly.
Wait until Kaeya reveals he is actually Caribert and he wears a patch to cover up his true eye…I’m kidding but dang would that be crazy
For the windblume event, could the reason be that despite there being 8 hex witches there were only 7 chairs because the 8th chair belonged to signora and when she went fatui it effectively excommunicated her?
Alright so let me get this straight.
Father? Dead.
Mother? Witch.
Adoptive Brother? Spy.
Him? Batman.
Y'all sure he ain't the main protagonist of Teyvat?
early! hope to see more lore abt this in the future
I think she was an ancestor of Diluc, as in the event quest she was said to have died years ago, and has had many successors since then.
And Diluc’s mother did not kill his father, by the webtoon that’s for sure.
Also Baby Albedo in the test tube bottle is just too cute 💖
Venti just casually collecting interesting people to his city
Hmmm 🤔
I think that dilucs mom took diluc to the hexenzirkel meetings. She might have left diluc at the hexenzirkel and go off to a mission and died there. That might be why Alice sayed that in her letter as she might have raised him too
Bro, Diluc is batman, his father has Fatui ties and a delusion, his brother has Khaenri'an lineage, and his mother is theorized a witch
What is going on in this mans life
Diluc holds so much firepower potential, he got a vision at the age of 10, Crepus couldn't draw an eagle painting properly then there's Diluc who magically created a perfect image using fire, he also suffered no drawbacks after using a delusion for years while his dad died after using it once.
If this doesn't imply Diluc's power came from his mom I don't know what does
I hope Dilucs mom has a good reason she hasn't been there for her family...
I think it could be Adelinde, rather than Diluc’s mother, she’s suspicious on many levels
Yoo that is an insane detail i had no clue till now. 😅
Didn't Alice tell Diluc in his skin story quest that he could think of her as a mother, in her letter to him? It would imply that he did have a mother but she passed.
now THIS is amazing detail lore
oh no! we reused the same texture too many times... quick add some lore to it
miHoYo is sitting there and shiting themselves omg I was just lazy and copied pasta the shit. There's no lore behind it and there're people out there who noticed this!! omg I need to create some more lore now.
Should I sign him in the Winx club now?
At least his mama is girlbossing in heaven.
Omg yusss
Maybe that's why Diluc has a special constitution that's able to handle wearing a delusion and not get side effects. Maybe something to do with his witch ancestry.
I did have a moment of speculation about the tea set because its colors are so vibrant that it looks out of place in the cutscene. I never thought it might’ve had such an important backstory 😂
Imagine if it turned out that Diluc just gave Alice a tea set as a present to a fellow Captain of the Knights of Favonius/family friend.
Henxenzirkel = Coven in German. Why did they use the german word for it ? Is it because the Event was in Mondstadt? Maybe there is a connection between Witches and Mondstadt ?
Because this event came from
Mondstadt and reference of Germany culture
Could be cuz it's an event in Mondstadt which is inspired by Germany. Also, they did want to fight Barbatos who then had them change their mind and instead had them gather for tea parties instead. Perhaps it's a little nod to that?
My boy diluc has the most wild family lmao
Then we found out Bennet is also a witch son, dammit the lore of genhsin branches so much like somekind of one-piece lol
I think that it might be along the lines of a great-great-grandmother, since otherwise his mom would’ve had to be hundreds of years old, and that’s pretty strange. Also, if it is his great great grandmother, I think it’s possible that it was M, due to the line saying something like “my lifespan is much shorter than yours, I can leave you with my storybook” and M, being the storybook writer, is the one with the shortest lifespan. So it’d be possible for her to be a great great grandma
I'm more positive it's not his mother, more like aunty maybe. Because if diluc mother is hexe, he will be have more harsh personality due to absent of his parent
Kaeyas mom is also never mentioned what if that's why kaeya was left there ?
Great attention to details 👍🏻
i think that diluc mother is one of the hexenrizel but i dont think that its alice
Someone watched Catwithbluehat's video...
Thank you, same train of thought here, at least we can say the timing is quite suspicious.
It's not the first time lol. He did the same thing with Catwithbluehat's capitano video
So this explains now why Diluc's working artifacts all include the name "Witches'.... etc. etc."
What if she got reveal and become a 5 star dps character 💀
My opinion remains that we have a rerun of Suabaru's experience in re:zero with the witches here.
They are all pretty much one and the same at this point of the memory.
Help i don't remember what happened in re:zero!! TwT But i instantly thought of it when the hexenzirkel/tea party was mentioned!! >w< Not evil, but just all about discovery, and maybe they do morally grey things sometimes for it??
Your brain is exceeding my limit
Now it makes sense when diluc defeated dottore assistant in one strike (dottore conducted fake god experiments and collei and assistant is also his experiments)
I'll be honest I kinda headcanon it and here it is being theorized into existence
DULIC'S MUM?!
Wow.
At first I thought you randomly said it out of the blue, but you provided proof.
Subscribing. Well explained, good catch.
Alice is his aunty, same as his mom. My mom had 2 best friends in her childhood, and those 2 aunties tells me to call them mom. I know the feelings 🥹
Arigato for sharing! I really don't notice the in game details
Wow your eyes are very sharp i hardly notice that but i think she will/not be mentioned by the last 2 people who wasnt told in the windblume festival and probably shes still alive/sealed is what im thinking or like the former dendro archon that was forgotten.
Not to mention the famous vase we all know diluc has
The owl vase and owls are a representation of witches
Fr, people in Mondstadt are insanely sus
NGL, the idea of Diluc's mom looking physically similar to his dad makes it seem like his birth was an Alabama moment...
La bruja que dice haber matado a su amado para acabar con su sufrimiento más parece signora y su voz es casi idéntica
Ah yes, a future ee-vent.
I love this threory🤩✨
I'm questioning about how did I miss the tea pot.
Personally, i think it's a stretch, It feels circumstancal, i doubt cause a tea cup in 1 area now a similar looking one is somewhere else is means something like that, especially since No where in this game was this brought up, nor mentioned. To me, this is Alice giving Diluc a tea set.
If only the tea set in the manor were the same, I could see this argument. But since it's also featured in his clothes and in the manor's rug, this objection doesn't hold up as well.
@@the_knut I doubt it, since:
-No One talks about Diluc's Mother, not the Knights, Maids/servents of the manor, no records, books or old ancient tablets, also not even in the Comics or any 3rd party promotional stuff.
And Remember, your basing this off a Color scheme, nothing definitive, especially since The Tea Cup has a Design on it, that shows up nowhere, not even on the Ragnvindr Family Crest.
Cause at this point, I'm going to assume Alice gave Diluc the carpet, attire, since she said she was going to look after him ever sense Crepus's Death.
And Remember the games been pretty good (not perfect) with giving you clues and stuff to put stuff together, so if they wanted to say out of the Blue, Diluc has a Mother, they gotta do ALOT more than just some tea set.
@@Strykerx31 you are reaching, lol. exactly because it's a game this kind of foreshadowing shows more than it would show in any other type of media, specially in genshin where characters that we've never seen are covered in mysteries and any clue is a big clue. This proves itself as true with Nicole, the "N" member of Hexenzirkel that is titled as a good compass and is able to talk inside our heads, since our own character thinks the same, that's why we have no reason to doubt that it was Nahida (for any reason, lol) or Istaroth or anybody else. It most probably *is* Nicole indeed.
@@limesyy What are you even talking about? It safe to Assume N is that due to enough reasonable evidence to make that conclusion, but that's not what i saying.
I'm saying it's grasping at straws to assume, that Diluc's Mother is a Witch STRICTLY based on a matching Tea set, and nothing else, no records, witnesses, Testimonials from anyone prior. At least they clearly showed and we can safely assume was Albedo being created.
I left the video cause of the repeating music stuck at 8 secend, it is like having a song stuck in your head but worse
holyy this's so make a sense, i think this's 99,99% accurate
brudda watched catwithbluehat innit?
I have been aware of this game since Nov 2020 and i have never given a second thought to the mother figure of diluc.
Whut. Even. I.D..K.
That's crazy I can't wait to find out what happens in the lore
Honestly I feel like the missing chair could be Signora's since she's the crimson WITCH of flame and was banned from monstadt thus no chair anymore
Doesnt have to be his mom. Could be his ancestor since its heavily implied that Alice met the witches way back before the Cataclysm
The witch is definitely from Diluc's clan but unless there are supporting arguments that Diluc's mother is not a human, then I would not consider her to be the same person as the witch
I want you all to remember Kaeya’s vision is different
doubt its diluc's mom, maybe a great great grandma.... his mom passed away based on the lore from his outfit short story we had XD... she might be just a dscendant and it feels like alice looks after all the dscendands kids : diluc, albedo, mona...
Good eye! I completely missed that!
Here me out, I saw the theory somewhere else about Crepus being one of the fatui harbingers,
The Fatui Harbinger, known for being brutal, burning everything to the ground with flames so hot that even the land of ice and snow can’t snuff them out. One day on a mission he catches a glimpse of a beautiful young woman. He falls in love instantly, and pursues her. They fall in live and Crepus decides to put down the mantle of Harbinger but still keeping his mask and delusion, so the woman also tells him her secret. They marry and soon she finds that she is pregnant with a child. Once the child is born they spend their life happy for some time before she either gets murdered or has to go away like Alice, but still wanting to leave something to show Crepus and Diluc that she loves them, she leaves behind her tea set.
I was like wait is Alice Diluc's Mo- "Diluc's mama's acquaintance" nvm
some 3d artist:
"aint now way i would spent a few hours on this teapot set..."
*looks at game files
"this will do"
*5 days later
"i fu@# up... we fuc@& up..."
Or it could just be the game devs running out of unique assets so they just reused the pattern