Fortin Nameless Amplifier vs Fortin Nameless Plugin A/B Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Francisco does a deep A/B comparison between the Fortin Nameless amplifier and the Fortin Nameless plugin. Fortin Nameless 14 day trial: neuraldsp.com/...
The setup for this is below, allowing for simultaneous recording of an A track & B track using both the Fortin Nameless plugin & amplifier.
Guitar - UA Apollo Twin (Input 1) - Ableton Live - Fortin Nameless Plugin
UA Apollo Twin (Output 3) - Fortin Nameless amplifier - Reactive Loadbox - UA Apollo Twin (Input 2)
#NeuralDSP #FortinNameless #AmpVSPlugin
Videos like this that explains how the amp reacts to certain actions on it is %100 appreciated. As an example, i didn't knew the response of the mid bass and treble knob would vary depending on where the other tone stack knobs are. Please make more videos like this that explains the amp more in-depth if any more information like this exists.
You guys and STL are absolutely killing it with these plug-ins.
Going to buy the Fortin Nameless Suit X tonight after watching this demo. The similarity is uncanny - good work
This was one of my best purchases. Cheers from Poland!
Your guitar is absolutely sick, I love that look!
Awesome comparison video! I didn't know that every knob could have a 20% tolerance, this explains a lot of past tweaks. Both are great sounding!
Malakai 👽😎
@@VICTORFERREIA1987 any news?
Great work, Francisco! Gee, I wonder what it says beneath that piece of tape on the front of the amplifier :D
My sugar.
Marsha marsha marsha
Future is here ... Hands down
I friggin love this plugin. It’s so mean and it sounds great at pretty much any setting.
Sick plugin! I still prefer Helix Native because of it's possibities but the stuff from NeuralDSP is absolutely amazing! \m/
Would love to see this same video on the Cali 👍
You're not using the cab section of the plugin? What IRs are you using?
maybe real cab in room
Sorry for the late reply guys! Im using the internal IR of the Nameless, applying it to both tracks in the group.
Can u explain this. I’m using a preset from nameless do I need to fuck with impulse responses or this plugin alone fine.
I don’t get IR
@@Hifcrea If you want a nice and easy introduction to IR's and what they are you should watch this video: ruclips.net/video/RceLLUbhz0A/видео.html. That's pretty much how I learned fairly recently. Oh, and the Fortin Nameless has its own IR. It's simply the cabinet section of the plugin, which is modelled after a real life physical cabinet. Rock on!
Awesome video!
Finlly got it! Monstrous BEAST 😁
I love fortin nameless 🤘 kickass amp i've ever heard!
Amazing! You know a NATAS one is due
Any news?
@@AleArzMusic Fortin NTS has been out since 2018 lol
@@athmaid lol
I'm gonna have to pull the trigger on this.
The live amp flubs a bit more but the most important obstacle to get the convincing live tone is the real cab in my opinion. Sadly nobody tries to do something in that regard. The IR tech is almost 20 years old now and it sounds way too static
Thank you. Have been saying this for over a decade. That said, Neural have done amazingly with the tech that's currently there. Their amp modeling is insane.
You can run the nameless plugin out to a live cab through a power amp, reamp boxes aren't exactly uncommon these days and I'm pretty sure the nameless plugin through an actual cab with a mix of Creambacks and V30s would sound killer
@@KemiiLou Because a Fortin amp costs $3000+ ?
Can you explain this a little further please? I'm interested in this process but know little about it. @@dcp10200
Thats why u gotta use a power amp/ interface/ computer so you can use the sim through an actual cab
Insane difference
Man Hapas guitars are getting pretty popular it seems, good for them!
I'm a big NDSP fan owning Darkglass and Plini. This one, however, to me sounds thin, shrill and has a peculiar mid range "blur" when used in mixes. Still light years ahead of what we've had available in the past but I don't think this one nailed it as much as your other offerings. Solid video and much appreciated hearing the comparison!
Sounds 98% similar to my ears
I have the actual Fortin Meshuggah amp and the NDSP Plugin. They nailed it. The amp is designed for staying tight at high gain with severely low tunings.
Ok after more than a year abusing it i would say 80 %.
SHAM!!! The "H" key is simply a call button to order more beer.... 😂
God I love the brutality of this amp sim... forget cleans (although it does do a fabulous Marshally rock, and even a passable Plexi sound), but for flat out balls to the wall, this thing is a BEAST!
Very Impressive I must say
People need to realise that trying to sound the same as a real amp doesn't have any purpose. they just have to find a tone that fits your song and use it whether it is a real amp or a plug-in. But we can't also deny but Neurall DSP stuff sounds almost identical to the rear amp and this guy knows what he's doing. Almost all the comparisons that compared real amps to plug-ins they compare with the built-in cab simulator of the plugins to a real miced amp of a different cab in a different room. This guy knows how to make a great comparison and deserves the praice.
it does in my situation. Several artists I know play with this amp. I like their tone therefore I will buy this plugin. If they didn't model off of amps there'd be no buyers.
Listening on monitor speakers - real gear has more bottom end but it depends on the mic type, position, and IMO can be emulated as well if you have high quality IRs.
Got a better tone in minutes with this than months with my Fractal! There isnt a better sounding out of the box amp sim than this!
@@MartinNephilim Ryan´s videos are badass
Yet Misha got better tone than this in the ten first minutes he had his first Axe FX back in 2006. His very first test is still online.
What a freaking beautiful guitar... can anyone tell me how it's called and which organ I have to sell to be able to buy it?
Looks like Chapman 7 string
@@Loki-sk7bi nope. It's a Hapas guitar.
It's a Hapas Kayzer. They are from Berlin, Germany. Very expensive sadly, but that's to be expected. There aren't many companies left actually building here with that attention to detail.
Wow, what camera did you guys use to film this? Looks amazing! Sounds amazing as well of course!
Axe/Kemper/Bias killer if the can make a hardware that can reproduce the same physically.
LUIS MATOS axe fx is still better in my opinion amp modeling wise. Plus there might be differences in the input resistance of the instrumental inputs. I have rme and ita 490kOhm which is less that you’d want for guitars
Axe fx amps just sound extremely balanced as is without any OD boost. Helix/neural/others still sound kinda flubby and muddy without the lowcut going into the amp
kimseniorb hahaha! Ok! You can have your opinion but please don’t share it as a fact. Neural stuff comes as close to the real amps as there can be. Axefx is still far away especially how the power amp reacts and most of their models are pretty off when doing similar a/b testing as in this video.
Matias Kupiainen is just my opinion, I said "if they can make a hardware that reproduce the same physically ". I have a AX8 and I like a lot.
LUIS MATOS my reply wasn’t for you. It was for the ”other” dude! I actually share your thoughts and waiting for Neural’s physical unit! My axefx2 just broke down and now trying out axe3...
Where can i buy real life fortin amps?
If I may, what loadbox did you use in this shootout?
I wish you'd release a pedal version of this. Rather not always have to use a laptop/pc. Even just a preamp pedal haha.
Not possible, they are emulating a full tube head that is wired point to point, a pedal wouldn't even get close
@@sebastiansoto3250 he means digital pedal you dumbass
What IR is being used or what is the setup of the internal IR?
Love this amp. WhAt amp is the fortin meshuggah based on like what specific Marshall model ?
Which reactive box are you using? Sounds very clear and nice for high gain.
why in video do not shown that tracks is changing???
Rick Reddler to show how close they are and you have no bias. It’s easy to judge with eyes
Man that is CLOSE
Francisco, how about Bogner amps? Ecstasy, Uberschall?
So, although your plugin is a Plexi, it is mainly made for metal music?
Very close to me. I was listening to headphones 770DT and I think the real amp had more low end frequencies.
I'm wondering why you didn't use the Meshuggah name as everyone knows it's that amp's namesake... Royalties to the band for using their Trademark? That extends even to just mentioning their name along with the product?
Not sure about trademarks, but naming it Meshuggah would instantaneously label this amp as a pure didn't monster, while it clearly has other qualities as well. It was wise to say "nameless" because it also had something mysterious to it in the beginning
Because this amp was made by a Québécois named Fortin
@@ferlottes peut-être franco-ontarien pcq il a zéro accent anglais
@@apoplexiamusic Vous avez sûrement raison.
Best Plugins ever!!! Now you just need a package for Blues/ Rock and one with Effects than its complete
The nts if you play with it a little can get you that from the clean channel
For blues I mean rock just dial back the gain grind and girth
Better amp sim? There's is none!
@Jeff T 0's?
@@iseeu-fp9po djent
Update: Archetype Nolly 😄
Update: Archetype Abasi 😄
@@Alexhangman cleans for Plini and heavieness for the Nameless.
cpu should be less heavy...beside that great plugins
What is this wizardry?
this is a great video. sounds as if the Plugin has a bit of a harsher high end.
Exactly. Watch Ola listen to random clips and always detecting from the high end when it's a plug.
tonally they are the same transient excitement is sharper or more bite, subtle but there
Very similar. The average listen wouldn’t know the difference. For me I always here this noise in the high end on the plugin.
That noise is not because of the plugin, but because of the audio interface.
God please put your plugins on that Quad Cortex. Your DSP stuff sounds better than that unit.
What a fail. It's exactly the same. SMH
What did you expect lol, that is the entire point
@@athmaid Dude, SARCASM X-D
Very impressive but plugin have less low end... Kemper does it better BUT Neural is way more convincing than anything else (compared to AxeFxIII unit and Helix)
So now Kemper > Neural >> AxefxIII
I LOVE NTS and Nameless and Archetype. I never use my Kemper because of place, set up and work flow, it’s an old unit and I hate status quo from Kemper « it’s perfect » because it’s not, but I must admit it’s still the best way to have amp feel and tone 99%.
Can’t way their technology to be patent free...
Use some EQ to push the low end.
Don’t like the sound of either. Sounds way too sterile
I cringe whenever I see a demo of heavy sounds with a 7 string. Everything sounds heavy with a 7s ..
Some amps don't take down tuned guitars very well, so it's definitively worth reviewing.
Ok boomer. The amp was designed to be used with 8 strings.
Clearly you don't know who that amp was built for in the first place.