@@angelb33tsTrue- you could still be straight but like fictional characters of the same gender (like how you could be lesbian and like male fictional characters)
I went to a queer friendly rave a few months ago with my boyfriend and we acted pretty cutesy and confortable about our queerness with one another and this did catch lots of attention. Most of it was really positive jus some people apparently couldn't process masculine guys acting this emotionally vulnerable in public. One 18 year old guy pretty much got his reality shattered, when he had to walk up the stairs behind me, was too drunk to walk, so got help from my BF and then had zero filters on, told him that my butt looked nice and after realizing what he thought out loudly, first wasn't expecting us to be absolutely chill ablut it, then had the "but I'm not gay" moment and just lost his marbles when he realized, that people can be pansexual in our case, because I mentioned that I wasn't either and also had a girlfriend. I mean sure.. it was a bit awkward at first, but the guy later mustered up his courage and later asked us, how we could be so unbothered by the stigma he was so afraid of and that led to discussions with some of his friends. On one side it's slightly bothering me that young men and boys still don't know that sexuality is on a spectrum, but it also gives me hope, that they bothered to ask us for advice and tried wrapping their heads around it all.
More men in general should read fanfictions imo They're missing out BAD on something that makes a very substantial percentage of women happy ever since the 60's lol
Seriously tho, I make some male discord in game channel read my fanfic and it blows their mind. They discover how vanilla fanfic smut and general audience fic about how the characters of the game doing stupid stuff exists. Sometimes they ask whether I make new fanfic, lol
Honestly, good for them! I had a friend who was trabsphobic before we met, and I only know this because she told me. She was already an out-of-the-closet transwoman when we met.
I love how Arcane has Jayce and Mel designed to be absolutely conventionally gorgeous but we’re all like “Yeah no, I want sickly Victorian robot Jesus who hasn’t slept a day in his life.”
Mel can get it. I'm more attracted to her than Jayce, because he's so conventionally attractive in a typical way. Dude is really interesting though. He's fantastic character, but I like many others was drawn to victorian robot jesus with insomnia a bit more.
@@vixxcelacea2778truee, mel’s beauty is on another level, jayce in s2 though… i dont get how him getting 10x messier made him 10x hotter 😭😭 i think i just find most of the characters in this show hot atp, vi really makes me wonder if im even straight lmao
@tealing_ oh no you're not the only one. Season 1 jayce I'm like mehhh I knew him in the lore prior to the show wasn't too into him. Season two episode 5 show us his new design. And I was like 👁️👄👁️. The only thought in my mind was "I can fix him".
@@purple66666pretty sure ekko is bi considering some of his interactions with Ezreal and wtv they had goin on in pulsefire. Also i vaguely remember him being confirmed bisexual even though i can’t remember where the source came from.
@@ZarinuLorenLol xDDD Too true xDDD But in all seriousness, I kind of hope that, after having his realization, he fixed himself c: I really do hope it put things into perspective for him, and he learned a valuable lesson on personal growth from it all. Sometimes you just need reality to give you a good slap in the face 😊😊😊
I don’t usually write comments but I feel like I have to share my two cents, I feel like there’s a lot of internalized (and some straight up) ableism in how these men are perceiving Viktor, the language the first man uses and the constant references to Viktor being “a wimpy pathetic wet rag” when if you watch the show with both eyes and audio you know he is anything but. One of Viktors introductions into the show is literally “hey that magic thing u we’re on about sounds cool, let’s break into a lab and risk our entire careers for a chance” that’s not wimpy, that’s bold, Viktor is direct, goal driven, hard working and a risk taker To me it seems like they saw a slim guy with Less than ideal health and cane and immediately equated him to “loser” despite all evidence pointing left I’m not personally physically disables in any way, so maybe I’m taking it too seriously, but their incapable twinkification of his character felt very icky to me, would love to hear other opinions tho. Either way there is definitely something these guys need to confront, something about a call inside the house
As someone kinda fascinated by 4Chan user psychology, my best guess is that they really really like certain qualities about Victor but it's been so beaten into them culturally that those traits are bad/weak/negative and make you 'less a man' that the first reaction is still kinda dehumanization/objectification because for them being attracted to him is much easier to reconcile with then wanting to *be* like Victor, even if it does completely take them by surprise. It's not completely unlike when girls would say stuff like ">w< My little sin babies!!!!" about gay ships back in the day, and frankly if you removed the ableism in the post from the guy down bad, it could easily pass of a tumblr thirst post.
Tbh in the case of the Victor lookalikes I think most of the abelism actually comes from the guys projecting themselves onto his character. You don't get into an Incel mindset without being deeply self-loathing so the negative things they are saying about Viktor are just their own feelings about themselves. Its still abelism, but of the more internalised variety. The second guy was just thirstposting though. Unfortunately he was thirst posting in 4chan speak which tends to be deeply offensive against everyone.
He is actually the only one putting his career on the line for hextech--before it's even proven to work as anything other than an apartment explosive--and one of his most notable lines is about not asking permission to change the world. He's probably the boldest character in the Piltover storylines. While not said in the show, the creators said in Arcane (not necessarily in League), he only made it to Piltover and to the Academy at all by sneaking in and pretending he was a student without officially enrolling. He's ambitious, very direct, and stands by his principles more firmly than Jayce is able when it comes to speaking up against repurposing hextech for weapons. So yeah, I think you're absolutely right. Posts like those 4chan ones noting that other fans like him so much, but writing it off as because he's "wimpy" or "pathetic" DO seem to be ableist, and also sorta reek of internalized sexism. And frustratingly, they also just seem to be missing what about his character ACTUALLY appeals to people. If you took away Viktor's handicaps and illnesses, I think people would still rank him as a top character; and on the flip side also, no one is implying that other fans only love Sevika or Silco or Singed for their disabilities.
Most of those guys suffer from extreme internalized ableism which is very rampant in the ND community (even I have to unpack my own as someone with AuDHD) so I’m not shocked or even offended when I see people write this stuff bc it’s so invasive in our culture it’s nearly impossible to escape
Came here to say this, only to find that several other people who are also interested in how people work already said everything I had in mind. You guys are cool.
this is actually kind of annoying because viktor is not a pathetic weak passive little meow meow. He’s just disabled. He has a very strong personality and convictions. did these guys watch the show
@@imquitefondofgeckos446 These are 4chan incels we're talking about. Their limited emotional perception and language leaves them with an inaccurate description of Viktor. "Weak passive little meow meow" is an almost incoherent string of words to the average person (and I mean no offense to the you), but these are guys who generally find vulnerability and introspection alien and strange, so this is how they read Viktor's overall character. It's frankly annoying, but an expected annoyance. Whatever gets them to be more well-adjusted and normal around women is fine, I guess.
yeah he is literally the opposite of passive he is very driven and hard working. Like the only time he is passive is in the beginning of season two when he’s inside of the hexcore basically unconscious.
@@ycleptprof.5249 Yeah that's what I was about to say. The guys see him and assume he's a wet tissue cause he's scrawny and disabled even though he commits crimes and likes to play with sapient nukes.
Viktor's characteristics: • Presents himself well, the only point of contention is his hair health and texture, which doesn't matter since we don't know if runeterra has acessible hair products • is unapologetically himself, doesn't hide his flaws or delve into areas where he has weaknessess (i.e, he isn't good with crowds so he leaves up to jayce to do the presentation) • isn't jealous, spiteful, or anything like that • is determined in the pursuit of research and greatness • very hard worker, is one of the few zaunites that climbed out of poverty, worked relentlessly most days • incredibly knowledgefull and intelligent • inovated and contributed immense value for his city • cares for the people around him and has normal emotions and values What 4chan sees: Now girls like twinks huh?
@@BRAZILIAN_MIKU I agree with everything, he values humanity and individuals so much, that's why his final plan was kinda out of nowhere for me. Except the being unapologetically himself part. To the most part, yes, BUT he also hid his disease, probably because he doesn't want to be a burden because he very likely has internalized ableism. And the crowds thing is probably because he feels like his opinion doesn't matter to Piltovians, they have clearly shown how they don't care (example, Mel saying it is Jayce's choice to make Hextech into weapons with Viktor right there. I love Mel but it shows the divide). Not a criticism! I just like to infodump
A lot of people on 4chan are autistic and have deeply internalized ableism. A lot of people have been told from birth that they are broken and need to be fixed. Good disability representation helps these people.
Saw a tweet on Twitter that explained this phenomenon very well: "I too, was a straight dudebro that was only into hetero ships. But when I saw Jayce and Viktor.... I Get It Now...."
@@ez9566GENUINELY SAME. I (female) was only into women until I saw Viktor and now I’m more open to guys??? wtf is happening why does he turn people into this
last guy roleplayed viktor so hard he actually got around into interacting with people, being vulnerable and talking about his interests out loud. everyone has to start somewhere
The funny thing is it's not just straight guys too, there are so many lesbians (myself included) who all agree Viktor is the most perfect beautiful man ever (also i literally finished season two Yesterday and i am still crying on the floor asdsfshdfhshfjhglsefhwu)
Genuinely he made me question my sexuality again 😭 thought I was only into women/femme presenting people but I actually think I’m into ~everyone~ (I thought I was pan originally when I was younger but thought it was out of guilt. I think I was wrong💀). Anyway, Viktor is perfect, he IS the glorious evolution
Shoutout to the guy in the first post, I hope he's doing better or at the very least is trying to. Coming to the realization that there's something wrong with yourself (in this case, it's "the way I look is fine, it's just my personality that turns people off") is usually the first step needed in order for someone to grow and improve as a person.
This is clearly another sign for me to finally give in and actually watch Arcane lmfao. Also 4chan bros getting pulled into fandom and having a moment of self realization is SO funny, even if it is wrapped in 4chan toxicity. The guy who basically tricked himself into being vulnerable and being surprised when it worked oh my god. Also once again asking Coley to look into Twisted Wonderland.
Season 1 is a masterpiece It needs to be puy in a capsule and sent into space so that millions of years from now when society completely collapses and remakes itself people will enter the solar system and be able to unearth the masterpiece. It is the most quality, well put together season ever, there are no criticisms of arcane season 1, try and search for em, you'll find like, 2, but that's out of like the whole internet, it's so incredibly well written That being said, they tossed out all the writers for season 2 and turned it into a shitty marvel movie by adding the Hollywood formula, incredibly icky, wish I could unsee it, and am so spiteful about it I'm making a full fucking rewrite of it
the second guy seems to be having an identity crisis that he's using viktor as a crutch to guide him through honestly. it sounds like he's kinda grown up forcing himself to act/carry himself a certain way and he thought that was normal so stuck with it, then a blorbo just took over his brain and he's starting to let his interests/real feelings show through. i could be wrong, but it feels like he's just started his journey to self discovery (i hope he and the girl are doing well)
Yeah judging by the way the girl responded and the shape of the insecurities he had about getting into obscure literature, it REALLY sounds like he had a genuine conversation for the first time he could remember and was kinda adrift in what to do about it
these dudes are so much sadder and more pathetic than they think Viktor is oh my god lol i hope they all become more comfortable with earnestly being themselves
Viktor isn’t even really sad/sopping wet meow meow until the shit with the Hexcore starts happening. like he’s an intelligent and insightful man who just happens to be physically disabled and frail
Who said you had to use the label in the first place? This guy doesn't understand how fluid people truly are when it comes to preference and identity lmao
3:19 But hey, the OTHER good news is he might work on himself and become a better person since he’s realized his behavior is what might be driving people away
The second guy is gonna have Multiple revelations with season two. Many more revelations than before. I can think of quite a few already he could be experiencing.
@@angelb33ts the funniest part is ik several guys who ARE boyfailures and have ao3 reading girlfriends. its a phenomenon that happens. these dudes just fell down the wrong pipeline before it could happen to them 😔
Three guys i know irl who've watched arcane are absolutely taken by this man he has these men in a CHOKEHOLD like im not even kidding. this phenomenon should be studied in a lab because what the fuck
@@catdownthestreet I'll tell you: he's got a mix of strong traditionally masculine features and strong traditionally feminine features, combined with a sharpness and intensity usually associated with male characters but also an elegance and gracefulness usually only afforded to female characters. His design is meant to make him look both strong and vulnerable. This makes him look way more androgynous than any other character, and hetero men(and plenty of lesbians lol) can't take it.
When I saw this I assumed first guy and third guy were the same guy a few months apart tbh, it would be so funny and so harder to believe if it happened to two different guys
Viktor caught my eye the second he appeared on screen, and I've been obsessed with him ever since lol. I'm not surprised with all the admiration he is getting, it's well-deserved.
8:31 idk if he's roleplaying viktor specifically or is just being as open, honest and genuine as possible, when he says normal stuff he probably means casual stuff instead of say, formative experiences, deep thoughts and his hyperfixations. He should definitely come clean about how he was in the 4 chan incel mindset but idk if he even is roleplaying Viktor, I think he's just practicing extreme vulnerability, hope this becomes a trend for them Extra proof of this is that he calls himself a drowned rat, i think Vik's a bit too proud to be so self depricating on a date, he doesn't need his self esteem pumped up, he's a survivor, this guy is just being honest and vulnerable, eventually he should come clean about how he left the red pill cult and how the whole thing was an experiment, but I love this sense of freedom for him
My theory is that Viktor become something like a shield/protective blanket and a guide for this guy. Like, " if Viktor can have XYZ qualities and be fine, maybe I can do the same and be fine/safe". Viktor seems to provide such comfort to this guy that he can be a little less scared to express his very own vulnerabilities deep inside. I really get the impression that what this guy is doing is actually exploring parts of himself he used to repress out of fear, and Viktor is giving him a sense of safety to do so.
i have watched exactly three episodes of arcane and i think viktor might genuinely be one of the single most attractive men to grace our screens, he's the obvious choice for "which animated character is going to make 4chan implode"
This is the funniest possible outcome for Arcane's existence. It's also kinda wholesome in a weird way. I hope they enjoyed season 2 and are learning to accept themselves.
Im not straight, not even a man but Im losing my mind as well. Last 5 days I spent all the time thinking about Victor/ watching tiktoks/ looking at fanarts/ reading Jayvik smut. In the meantime I slept and studied for exams but it was like 25% of the time combined, rest is all Viktor and Im not even mad about it. The only thing is that its hard to study for and write my exams, but I study biotechnology (which is one of the closest things that Viktor did in real life) so at least I can feel connected in that way as well
REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL I'm so mad they dropped season 2 during finals, I just wanted to look at my goofy ass arcane shitpost infested tiktok fyp all day
The writers did say that Viktor was supposed to be ace coded since the start (aroace coded technically, because they confused the two and assumed that ace inherently included aro). As an aroace, I don’t really have issue with people shipping him- mainly because I’m not a fan of representation that’s only on social media and never in the source material. But I definitely understand why they wouldn’t want to explicitly ace code him- he seems emotionless at first glance (even if he isn’t), and aro/aces have had enough of that stereotype already. I love queerplatonic interpretations of Jayvik though. Not platonic, not romantic, no true label except the potency of the love. Mutual moth-to-the-flame situation: they don’t love each other as lovers or friends, but simply because they are meant to be. Something something idk I’m too tired for poetry. And he’s very attractive. I’ll admit that
I don't really get it when people say Viktor was emotionless. He was the first to see that Jayce was in a bad place and stepped in to help him, he's always wanted nothing more than to help the people of Zaun and Piltover have better, healthier lives. Even after he got stuck in the robot-goobox and came out extra-hot he SOUNDED emotionless but his first action was to do exactly what he said he always wanted to do - go actively help his people. And we could tell that he not only still cared, but seemed to care even more deeply even if he wasn't able to express his emotions quite as well (Hell, he was even willing to die just because he wanted to save Vander). And even after he goes full-robot, he STILL wants nothing more than to help humanity and uplift them out of their suffering. He didn't lose his emotions in his final evolution, he set aside his morality and ethics. IMO Viktor was always the most emotionally aware character in the series, the problem was that he cared TOO much.
I think they never had the intention of making him ace in the first place. People have been headcanoning Viktor as ace or aroace since season one and they always got lip from both shippers and anti-LGBTQ people. But nobody from the show bothered to acknowledge this community or even explore Viktor's asexuality in the show. It also perpetuates the stereotype of disable people being incapable of love or being loved, something similar happened to another disable champion named Jhin who was hinted to be aroace and the dude is a self-loathing psychopath. Also it's weird they brought Viktor's asexuality only to oppose Viktor and Jayce's possible feelings for each other. On top of that they cared so little about it that they mistook asexuality with being areace, emotionless and a non-human monster. And lest not forget that Viktor was kinda involve in a sex scene. He was dying while Jayce and Mel were going at it a couple of rooms down the whole. It would be fun to say sex killed him but it's weird they had to mix a low moment of the ace character with a sex scene. As much as I want ace representation in media, I also want gay representation and this whole ''they're just friends, they're brothers, it's platonic'' has become a great and easy way for creators to queerbait the audience and exclude possible gay relationships from media. Even homophobes who laughed at first when platonic relationships were brought up are completely on board now if it means they can protect their GOAT of being shipped with another man.
No, it wasn’t "the writers" it was executive producer Christian Linke who said it in an interview as an after thought because he wanted people to stop shipping JayVik. And it was also clear that he was mixing up being Aro with being Ace There's no canonically anything in the series itself of him being Ace I'm saying this as someone who is AroAce because it annoys me a lot that people are willing to give him extra points for representation that doesn't exist Like, tomorrow he can come out and say "Hey, him being ace was a joke actually" and there'll be nothing to contradict him because there's literally nothing in the show to tell that Viktor might be Ace Like we deserve better representation than an after thought during an interview
Honestly the entire "Viktor is ace thing" is a load of BS to me lol. That information was dropped at a time when the Viktor/Jayce ship was peaking and it felt more like a way to shut up the shippers than anything else. If Viktor was actually ace, they could've shown that to us, but they didn't. And like you said, him being asexual doesn't mean he couldn't be gay and into Jayce lol, which just shows that these writers don't actually know anything about asexuality. Also, it's a negative sterotype to make the disabled character the only Asexual character in the cast, and just looking at the entire situation it seems in really bad taste. I like ace-spec Viktor but the way it was done feels so icky to me and contradictory to his character that I can't get behind it.
@sweatygoblin2335 Oh, I agree. Perhaps “stoic” would have been a better word. He cares deep down, but on a very surface level he seems cold (and stereotypes are always surface level)
"viktor is making straight men lose their minds" - I got flasbacks from Astarion and all the posts made by straight guys realizing they're attracted to him :p Also can't really blame the one attracted to Viktor... he's way too pretty in s2
Yes, Viktor can save us. He definitely saved me from a breakdown or two. Also... JayVik is one of the hottest, but also most poetic ships that has come out in recent years, and that's saying A LOT
If that one guy doesn't learn a lesson about the value of being honest and vulnerable in a relationship then he might at least have a career in method acting
I had a male friend look almost exactly like Viktor w/ the same personality and, if I had a nickel for every straight guy at school he turned bi, I’d have two (probably more) damn nickels
Gurl you put out like 3 videos in like a week??? You are are amazing and Viktor is for the girls, gays and the straights....he is for everyone (he did nothing wrong idc what anyone says)
I loved Viktor in the first season, my friends and I all hyperfixated on individual characters and would send fanart to each other etc. Season 2, it hadn't come out and I said to a friend "I hope we get to see Viktor" and she said "don't worry I think so!" Now I'm looking back on that convo like "dude he became the whole plot line for season 2, you got to see him A LOT" Love viktor, love the cosplays, fanart, and jokes about hexstrap lol
Oh my god, this video needed to be a lot longer. All of these stories went in directions I was NOT EXPECTING (I know this is a hard topic to ask more content out of, but please, I'd like to see more of it if it ever comes out)
I am convinced that post 3 isn't ACTUALLY speaking wimpy/pathetic, he just believes he is. For once, he's talking about his life and his weaknesses in an open and honest way. And as it turns out, he discovers that being open about your weaknesses doesn't undermine your character, it strengthens it.
@@samkeiser9776 Exactly, and the way he sees Viktor as inherently “weak and pathetic” just because he has a disability. It’s really such a crazy way of interpreting the world.
Let's not talk about writing these 4chan posts, just READING them, something about it feels so vile and cursed, should we really be reading these people lose their minds over mr viktor? And yet, stopping reading them is not an option
Can confirm, finding thirst art/fic about a character who reminds you of yourself is a very confidence-boosting experience. I can't imagine the wild ride of finding it about a guy who looks just like you lol
remind me of how i used to hate my skin color, but i really like brown fictional characters and it hits me that I have the same color skin. i end up liking my color skin so much because i channel my love for brown fictional characters 👏
For post 3, I’m really curious about what the messages he was sending actually sounded like. Because if he’s been strongly influenced by the incel community, then what he describes as trying to sound “whiny” or “pathetic” might just sound nice and not overtly aggressive. Anyway- I LOVE VIKTOR!
i genuinely love how victor doesn't look like a character that was deliberately designed to be hot (even if you do know what the girls and the gays like), he just sort of turned out that way. like a miracle child
The date story had me oscillating between “this guy should come clean that he’s not Viktor” and “this guy is literally Viktor”. I mean, I don’t know the characters that well but obsessing about some weird question vaguely related to research seems pretty Viktor-like.
It’s sad the thing they took away was some girls like pathetic guys (which is true) and not “maybe I should be honest and treat women like people.” Viktor is such a well written character. He has one of the best lines of season 1: “in the pursuit of great, we failed to do good”. Season 1 was written like a tragedy, and his storyline was some of the darkest. He has every right to resent Piltover for overlooking his accomplishments in favor of Jayce or being responsible for his chronic, later terminal, condition, but doesn’t. Bc he doesn’t do this work for glory. He works day and night to perfect Hextech bc he cares about people. He’s flawed, but capable of self reflection.
I'm lesbian but this animated man is making me ask my sexuality. That has to be a superpower of some sort, power of making straight men gay and gay women straight. jkjk ofc
The posts: I'm not even gay
"people are bisexual Steven"
Also, "sexuality is fluid Steven"
@@angelb33tsTrue- you could still be straight but like fictional characters of the same gender (like how you could be lesbian and like male fictional characters)
I dont know why, but I read that in my head in viktors voice and it made me burst out laughing Imagining him saying that to jayce.
@@SpamorammA he totally would though 🤣
I went to a queer friendly rave a few months ago with my boyfriend and we acted pretty cutesy and confortable about our queerness with one another and this did catch lots of attention. Most of it was really positive jus some people apparently couldn't process masculine guys acting this emotionally vulnerable in public. One 18 year old guy pretty much got his reality shattered, when he had to walk up the stairs behind me, was too drunk to walk, so got help from my BF and then had zero filters on, told him that my butt looked nice and after realizing what he thought out loudly, first wasn't expecting us to be absolutely chill ablut it, then had the "but I'm not gay" moment and just lost his marbles when he realized, that people can be pansexual in our case, because I mentioned that I wasn't either and also had a girlfriend.
I mean sure.. it was a bit awkward at first, but the guy later mustered up his courage and later asked us, how we could be so unbothered by the stigma he was so afraid of and that led to discussions with some of his friends.
On one side it's slightly bothering me that young men and boys still don't know that sexuality is on a spectrum, but it also gives me hope, that they bothered to ask us for advice and tried wrapping their heads around it all.
men be like "I'm fighting demons" and the demons be bisexuality ☠️
LMAOOO
They really did embody Jayce 😂
That or incel behavior
@@jans.g6033Jaybe or Jaybe not
And some make it other people's problems and that's how bigotry starts 😔
My takeaway is that more 4chan dudes should read fanfic on AO3. Maybe the world could be better
No
@@ravensep yeah.
More men in general should read fanfictions imo They're missing out BAD on something that makes a very substantial percentage of women happy ever since the 60's lol
Seriously tho, I make some male discord in game channel read my fanfic and it blows their mind. They discover how vanilla fanfic smut and general audience fic about how the characters of the game doing stupid stuff exists.
Sometimes they ask whether I make new fanfic, lol
@@DeadKrakenplease, we’ve been reading fanfics since the Dawn of fandoms 💀😆
alternative title: VIKTOR IS MAKING 4CHAN INCELS QUESTION THEMSELVES
He is indeed jesus. 4chan guys have found jesus XD
Real
Yup!
Honestly, good for them! I had a friend who was trabsphobic before we met, and I only know this because she told me. She was already an out-of-the-closet transwoman when we met.
Hextech Jesus heals the inner problems of incels and saves their life
I love how Arcane has Jayce and Mel designed to be absolutely conventionally gorgeous but we’re all like “Yeah no, I want sickly Victorian robot Jesus who hasn’t slept a day in his life.”
“Yeah no, I want sickly Victorian robot Jesus who hasn’t slept a day in his life.”
And funnily enough that's also what Jayce said in the finale
Me and Jayce: Nah, I want the victorian twink
Mel can get it. I'm more attracted to her than Jayce, because he's so conventionally attractive in a typical way. Dude is really interesting though. He's fantastic character, but I like many others was drawn to victorian robot jesus with insomnia a bit more.
@@vixxcelacea2778truee, mel’s beauty is on another level, jayce in s2 though… i dont get how him getting 10x messier made him 10x hotter 😭😭 i think i just find most of the characters in this show hot atp, vi really makes me wonder if im even straight lmao
@tealing_ oh no you're not the only one. Season 1 jayce I'm like mehhh I knew him in the lore prior to the show wasn't too into him.
Season two episode 5 show us his new design. And I was like 👁️👄👁️. The only thought in my mind was "I can fix him".
Arcane literally has only two straight characters, and that's Caitlyn's parents.
Ekko and Jinx?
Mel, Ambessa, Singed...
@@purple66666 I think ambessa is bi
Not confirmed but there’s some league interactions she has with other characters that imply she’s into women
@@purple66666pretty sure ekko is bi considering some of his interactions with Ezreal and wtv they had goin on in pulsefire. Also i vaguely remember him being confirmed bisexual even though i can’t remember where the source came from.
Theres a supposed Viktor look alike and hes on goddamn 4chan of all goddamn places.
Look alike but not personality. Viktor is extra hot because he's soft and spicy.
Of course the irl Viktor would be a 4chan user 💀
does anyone wanna try "i can fix him" trope irl?
@@ZarinuLorendon't base your relationships on fictional romance tropes, especially not like "I can fix them" ,yeesh
@@ZarinuLorenLol xDDD Too true xDDD
But in all seriousness, I kind of hope that, after having his realization, he fixed himself c: I really do hope it put things into perspective for him, and he learned a valuable lesson on personal growth from it all.
Sometimes you just need reality to give you a good slap in the face 😊😊😊
I don’t usually write comments but I feel like I have to share my two cents,
I feel like there’s a lot of internalized (and some straight up) ableism in how these men are perceiving Viktor, the language the first man uses and the constant references to Viktor being “a wimpy pathetic wet rag” when if you watch the show with both eyes and audio you know he is anything but.
One of Viktors introductions into the show is literally “hey that magic thing u we’re on about sounds cool, let’s break into a lab and risk our entire careers for a chance” that’s not wimpy, that’s bold, Viktor is direct, goal driven, hard working and a risk taker
To me it seems like they saw a slim guy with Less than ideal health and cane and immediately equated him to “loser” despite all evidence pointing left
I’m not personally physically disables in any way, so maybe I’m taking it too seriously, but their incapable twinkification of his character felt very icky to me, would love to hear other opinions tho. Either way there is definitely something these guys need to confront, something about a call inside the house
As someone kinda fascinated by 4Chan user psychology, my best guess is that they really really like certain qualities about Victor but it's been so beaten into them culturally that those traits are bad/weak/negative and make you 'less a man' that the first reaction is still kinda dehumanization/objectification because for them being attracted to him is much easier to reconcile with then wanting to *be* like Victor, even if it does completely take them by surprise.
It's not completely unlike when girls would say stuff like ">w< My little sin babies!!!!" about gay ships back in the day, and frankly if you removed the ableism in the post from the guy down bad, it could easily pass of a tumblr thirst post.
Tbh in the case of the Victor lookalikes I think most of the abelism actually comes from the guys projecting themselves onto his character. You don't get into an Incel mindset without being deeply self-loathing so the negative things they are saying about Viktor are just their own feelings about themselves. Its still abelism, but of the more internalised variety.
The second guy was just thirstposting though. Unfortunately he was thirst posting in 4chan speak which tends to be deeply offensive against everyone.
He is actually the only one putting his career on the line for hextech--before it's even proven to work as anything other than an apartment explosive--and one of his most notable lines is about not asking permission to change the world. He's probably the boldest character in the Piltover storylines. While not said in the show, the creators said in Arcane (not necessarily in League), he only made it to Piltover and to the Academy at all by sneaking in and pretending he was a student without officially enrolling. He's ambitious, very direct, and stands by his principles more firmly than Jayce is able when it comes to speaking up against repurposing hextech for weapons.
So yeah, I think you're absolutely right. Posts like those 4chan ones noting that other fans like him so much, but writing it off as because he's "wimpy" or "pathetic" DO seem to be ableist, and also sorta reek of internalized sexism. And frustratingly, they also just seem to be missing what about his character ACTUALLY appeals to people. If you took away Viktor's handicaps and illnesses, I think people would still rank him as a top character; and on the flip side also, no one is implying that other fans only love Sevika or Silco or Singed for their disabilities.
Most of those guys suffer from extreme internalized ableism which is very rampant in the ND community (even I have to unpack my own as someone with AuDHD) so I’m not shocked or even offended when I see people write this stuff bc it’s so invasive in our culture it’s nearly impossible to escape
Came here to say this, only to find that several other people who are also interested in how people work already said everything I had in mind. You guys are cool.
this is actually kind of annoying because viktor is not a pathetic weak passive little meow meow. He’s just disabled. He has a very strong personality and convictions. did these guys watch the show
Nah literally that's the point of his character 🧍
@ yeah he has insecurities and wants to be perfect but he is not pathetic in the way these people are describing
@@imquitefondofgeckos446 These are 4chan incels we're talking about. Their limited emotional perception and language leaves them with an inaccurate description of Viktor. "Weak passive little meow meow" is an almost incoherent string of words to the average person (and I mean no offense to the you), but these are guys who generally find vulnerability and introspection alien and strange, so this is how they read Viktor's overall character.
It's frankly annoying, but an expected annoyance. Whatever gets them to be more well-adjusted and normal around women is fine, I guess.
yeah he is literally the opposite of passive he is very driven and hard working. Like the only time he is passive is in the beginning of season two when he’s inside of the hexcore basically unconscious.
@@ycleptprof.5249 Yeah that's what I was about to say. The guys see him and assume he's a wet tissue cause he's scrawny and disabled even though he commits crimes and likes to play with sapient nukes.
Viktor's characteristics:
• Presents himself well, the only point of contention is his hair health and texture, which doesn't matter since we don't know if runeterra has acessible hair products
• is unapologetically himself, doesn't hide his flaws or delve into areas where he has weaknessess (i.e, he isn't good with crowds so he leaves up to jayce to do the presentation)
• isn't jealous, spiteful, or anything like that
• is determined in the pursuit of research and greatness
• very hard worker, is one of the few zaunites that climbed out of poverty, worked relentlessly most days
• incredibly knowledgefull and intelligent
• inovated and contributed immense value for his city
• cares for the people around him and has normal emotions and values
What 4chan sees:
Now girls like twinks huh?
Not just twinks, pathetic twinks.
That 3rd guy literally tricked himself into being vulnerable with a woman.
Mds, oi brazilian miku
@KaosTolas oi
@@BRAZILIAN_MIKU I agree with everything, he values humanity and individuals so much, that's why his final plan was kinda out of nowhere for me. Except the being unapologetically himself part. To the most part, yes, BUT he also hid his disease, probably because he doesn't want to be a burden because he very likely has internalized ableism. And the crowds thing is probably because he feels like his opinion doesn't matter to Piltovians, they have clearly shown how they don't care (example, Mel saying it is Jayce's choice to make Hextech into weapons with Viktor right there. I love Mel but it shows the divide).
Not a criticism! I just like to infodump
A lot of people on 4chan are autistic and have deeply internalized ableism. A lot of people have been told from birth that they are broken and need to be fixed. Good disability representation helps these people.
I love gay robot Jesus
stole my comment. I was about to say basically the same thing about "cyborg Twink Jesus"
💀
No that’s Markus. Viktor is gay MAGIC Jesus
Ain’t that Optimus Prime?
Sorry, when I hear "robot Jesus" all I see is Marcus... I have DBH brainrot
Saw a tweet on Twitter that explained this phenomenon very well:
"I too, was a straight dudebro that was only into hetero ships. But when I saw Jayce and Viktor....
I Get It Now...."
Im mainly gay but somewhat into women after viktor... Like is he the uno reverse card for sexuality?
You saw a tweet on Twitter? Nooo
Ok no xd that is so true tbh
Reminds me of what happened with Gale form Bg3
@@ez9566me a lesbian thirsting after viktor. he's right in the middle of the gender spectrum and its beautiful
@@ez9566GENUINELY SAME. I (female) was only into women until I saw Viktor and now I’m more open to guys??? wtf is happening why does he turn people into this
Dude was basically just roleplaying as Viktor as an experiment and realized he was the cause of his own problems
last guy roleplayed viktor so hard he actually got around into interacting with people, being vulnerable and talking about his interests out loud. everyone has to start somewhere
Viktor Nation...How we feelin'? 😂😂
Jaybe... or Jaybe not ?
We eating good with this shit
Gotta ask, where the hell did this meme come from? The first time I've seen it is when the actor talked about it
@@daniellins4114
The voice actor read it with Viktor's voice during an interview
That and "Jayce, Jaybe, Jaybe not"
@@jlhn I know he did, but like, did the interviewer come up with those random words themselves? It felt too random to just be that
The funny thing is it's not just straight guys too, there are so many lesbians (myself included) who all agree Viktor is the most perfect beautiful man ever (also i literally finished season two Yesterday and i am still crying on the floor asdsfshdfhshfjhglsefhwu)
he's just so special, so unique and so gorgeous ttmtt
The fact that your "asfghdf"-ing ends in a "uwu" is taking me out
Same thing happened with Gale in the Bg3 community
Genuinely he made me question my sexuality again 😭 thought I was only into women/femme presenting people but I actually think I’m into ~everyone~ (I thought I was pan originally when I was younger but thought it was out of guilt. I think I was wrong💀).
Anyway, Viktor is perfect, he IS the glorious evolution
THANK YOUUU im so for Caitlyn in every way but this season viktor just.. made sense to me LMAO
Jayce 🤝 Skye 🤝the whole internet
Viktor is beautiful
I’ve never watched arcane (actually I’ve watched 2 episodes) but I know he will be my favorite character when I do
EVERYONE
Shoutout to the guy in the first post, I hope he's doing better or at the very least is trying to. Coming to the realization that there's something wrong with yourself (in this case, it's "the way I look is fine, it's just my personality that turns people off") is usually the first step needed in order for someone to grow and improve as a person.
@Mizu_Melon I kinda theorize that the first and third guy are the same person
This is clearly another sign for me to finally give in and actually watch Arcane lmfao. Also 4chan bros getting pulled into fandom and having a moment of self realization is SO funny, even if it is wrapped in 4chan toxicity. The guy who basically tricked himself into being vulnerable and being surprised when it worked oh my god.
Also once again asking Coley to look into Twisted Wonderland.
Also the first guy realising that it isn't a matter of his looks, but of his personality 😂
Omg Twisted Wonderland mention
Arcane is soooo good trust😭
I don’t watch or play League but the show is actually a masterpiece
meguca...!
Season 1 is a masterpiece
It needs to be puy in a capsule and sent into space so that millions of years from now when society completely collapses and remakes itself people will enter the solar system and be able to unearth the masterpiece.
It is the most quality, well put together season ever, there are no criticisms of arcane season 1, try and search for em, you'll find like, 2, but that's out of like the whole internet, it's so incredibly well written
That being said, they tossed out all the writers for season 2 and turned it into a shitty marvel movie by adding the Hollywood formula, incredibly icky, wish I could unsee it, and am so spiteful about it I'm making a full fucking rewrite of it
the second guy seems to be having an identity crisis that he's using viktor as a crutch to guide him through honestly. it sounds like he's kinda grown up forcing himself to act/carry himself a certain way and he thought that was normal so stuck with it, then a blorbo just took over his brain and he's starting to let his interests/real feelings show through. i could be wrong, but it feels like he's just started his journey to self discovery (i hope he and the girl are doing well)
Yeah judging by the way the girl responded and the shape of the insecurities he had about getting into obscure literature, it REALLY sounds like he had a genuine conversation for the first time he could remember and was kinda adrift in what to do about it
these dudes are so much sadder and more pathetic than they think Viktor is oh my god lol i hope they all become more comfortable with earnestly being themselves
Viktor isn’t even really sad/sopping wet meow meow until the shit with the Hexcore starts happening. like he’s an intelligent and insightful man who just happens to be physically disabled and frail
4:11 “i’m not even gay” let’s unpack that!!
GLORIOUS BISEXUAL EVOLUTION!
You dont have to be gay to be bi.😏
Who said you had to use the label in the first place? This guy doesn't understand how fluid people truly are when it comes to preference and identity lmao
Straight persons simping for male characters has happened b4 in another movie
@@catdownthestreet real
the earth shattering revelation of "it was my shitty personality all along" is too good
Vicktor's not only trying to save the world in arcane but also irl. Hopefully he's doing a bit better irl
3:19 But hey, the OTHER good news is he might work on himself and become a better person since he’s realized his behavior is what might be driving people away
Yeah!
The guys on 4chan are experiencing the GLORIOUS EVOLUTION!😌
Horny evolution to be precise
haven't seen straight men go this insane over a male characters since the detroit become human craze in 2018. (connor)
Or Homelander from the boyz
Or Itachi from Naruto.
The second guy is gonna have Multiple revelations with season two. Many more revelations than before. I can think of quite a few already he could be experiencing.
A glorious revolution???
@@jackier3046Great now I’m picturing Viktor spinning rapidly
LOL
uff ... It worries me that these kind of men believe themselves a mesiah figures or some distorted vision of Viktor's in seasom two.
they're just learning what female gaze is...
YESS🎉
exactly!! women actually love this kind of appearance, as long as it's accompanied by a good personality
Not exactly. Boys have had the same thoughts but they express it in another way , usually in the way of " I can Fix her . She can ruin me "
Viktor nation...... how we feeling?
jayce.. jaybe? jaybe not?
Bad
i feel on a rollercoaster since the finale
@@wangxian_ me too!!
Your pfp really adds to this comment lol
Call all these guys ‘Jayce Talis’ with how down bad they are for Viktor
I NEED A DEEP DIVE INTO JAYVIK PLSSSSS
Yesssss!!
Plssss
YESSS
OMG PLEASEEE
YESS!!!!
Im really confused about what post 3 thinks is a wimpy way of replying? Being honest??? Being open about your interests? 😂
Its just so strange
the fact that meowmeow boyfailures are extremely popular with women but these guys think its cringe to just be their boyfailure selves is so sad
@blueberrymuffin_144 ikr
@@angelb33ts the funniest part is ik several guys who ARE boyfailures and have ao3 reading girlfriends. its a phenomenon that happens. these dudes just fell down the wrong pipeline before it could happen to them 😔
@olliewithab1926 bizarre
Three guys i know irl who've watched arcane are absolutely taken by this man he has these men in a CHOKEHOLD like im not even kidding. this phenomenon should be studied in a lab because what the fuck
no but actually... I'm so curious about what makes Viktor such a magnet lmao
@@catdownthestreet Grabbable waist. I've said my peace
YES, I need a 3 hour long essay on the deep psychology behind Victor's grip on humanity
@@catdownthestreet its just hilarious to see the effect as a lesbian. Its like watching something implode from the sidelines
@@catdownthestreet I'll tell you: he's got a mix of strong traditionally masculine features and strong traditionally feminine features, combined with a sharpness and intensity usually associated with male characters but also an elegance and gracefulness usually only afforded to female characters. His design is meant to make him look both strong and vulnerable.
This makes him look way more androgynous than any other character, and hetero men(and plenty of lesbians lol) can't take it.
This is NOT what I was expecting to see during my lunch break but I'm loving it
Same
The Chad Victor making the virgin 4channers self actualize was certainly not on my bingo card but a pleasant surprise.
When I saw this I assumed first guy and third guy were the same guy a few months apart tbh, it would be so funny and so harder to believe if it happened to two different guys
Conclusion: Fanfiction safes life's.
Always knew it, Viktor Nation a proud day indeed.
“Local 4chaners realize they are the problem after discovering Viktor fanfics, more at 5”
@@starstorm1267 I'd watch that news report
*saves
2:58 HELP at least he’s self aware???
Viktor is evolving these men to be glorious
Viktor caught my eye the second he appeared on screen, and I've been obsessed with him ever since lol. I'm not surprised with all the admiration he is getting, it's well-deserved.
Same!!! I was like " I want that!" the moment he showed up on my screen.
He's the most beautiful human I've ever seen😭. Nobody else even competes, Viktor wins undisputed🙏!
8:31 idk if he's roleplaying viktor specifically or is just being as open, honest and genuine as possible, when he says normal stuff he probably means casual stuff instead of say, formative experiences, deep thoughts and his hyperfixations. He should definitely come clean about how he was in the 4 chan incel mindset but idk if he even is roleplaying Viktor, I think he's just practicing extreme vulnerability, hope this becomes a trend for them
Extra proof of this is that he calls himself a drowned rat, i think Vik's a bit too proud to be so self depricating on a date, he doesn't need his self esteem pumped up, he's a survivor, this guy is just being honest and vulnerable, eventually he should come clean about how he left the red pill cult and how the whole thing was an experiment, but I love this sense of freedom for him
My theory is that Viktor become something like a shield/protective blanket and a guide for this guy. Like, " if Viktor can have XYZ qualities and be fine, maybe I can do the same and be fine/safe". Viktor seems to provide such comfort to this guy that he can be a little less scared to express his very own vulnerabilities deep inside.
I really get the impression that what this guy is doing is actually exploring parts of himself he used to repress out of fear, and Viktor is giving him a sense of safety to do so.
Okay these “Look alike” needs to start posting face reveal because we need to rate how well they look like viktor.
i have watched exactly three episodes of arcane and i think viktor might genuinely be one of the single most attractive men to grace our screens, he's the obvious choice for "which animated character is going to make 4chan implode"
This is the funniest possible outcome for Arcane's existence. It's also kinda wholesome in a weird way. I hope they enjoyed season 2 and are learning to accept themselves.
Im not straight, not even a man but Im losing my mind as well. Last 5 days I spent all the time thinking about Victor/ watching tiktoks/ looking at fanarts/ reading Jayvik smut. In the meantime I slept and studied for exams but it was like 25% of the time combined, rest is all Viktor and Im not even mad about it.
The only thing is that its hard to study for and write my exams, but I study biotechnology (which is one of the closest things that Viktor did in real life) so at least I can feel connected in that way as well
That's so real
REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL I'm so mad they dropped season 2 during finals, I just wanted to look at my goofy ass arcane shitpost infested tiktok fyp all day
The writers did say that Viktor was supposed to be ace coded since the start (aroace coded technically, because they confused the two and assumed that ace inherently included aro). As an aroace, I don’t really have issue with people shipping him- mainly because I’m not a fan of representation that’s only on social media and never in the source material. But I definitely understand why they wouldn’t want to explicitly ace code him- he seems emotionless at first glance (even if he isn’t), and aro/aces have had enough of that stereotype already.
I love queerplatonic interpretations of Jayvik though. Not platonic, not romantic, no true label except the potency of the love. Mutual moth-to-the-flame situation: they don’t love each other as lovers or friends, but simply because they are meant to be. Something something idk I’m too tired for poetry.
And he’s very attractive. I’ll admit that
I don't really get it when people say Viktor was emotionless. He was the first to see that Jayce was in a bad place and stepped in to help him, he's always wanted nothing more than to help the people of Zaun and Piltover have better, healthier lives.
Even after he got stuck in the robot-goobox and came out extra-hot he SOUNDED emotionless but his first action was to do exactly what he said he always wanted to do - go actively help his people. And we could tell that he not only still cared, but seemed to care even more deeply even if he wasn't able to express his emotions quite as well (Hell, he was even willing to die just because he wanted to save Vander). And even after he goes full-robot, he STILL wants nothing more than to help humanity and uplift them out of their suffering.
He didn't lose his emotions in his final evolution, he set aside his morality and ethics. IMO Viktor was always the most emotionally aware character in the series, the problem was that he cared TOO much.
I think they never had the intention of making him ace in the first place. People have been headcanoning Viktor as ace or aroace since season one and they always got lip from both shippers and anti-LGBTQ people. But nobody from the show bothered to acknowledge this community or even explore Viktor's asexuality in the show. It also perpetuates the stereotype of disable people being incapable of love or being loved, something similar happened to another disable champion named Jhin who was hinted to be aroace and the dude is a self-loathing psychopath.
Also it's weird they brought Viktor's asexuality only to oppose Viktor and Jayce's possible feelings for each other. On top of that they cared so little about it that they mistook asexuality with being areace, emotionless and a non-human monster.
And lest not forget that Viktor was kinda involve in a sex scene. He was dying while Jayce and Mel were going at it a couple of rooms down the whole. It would be fun to say sex killed him but it's weird they had to mix a low moment of the ace character with a sex scene.
As much as I want ace representation in media, I also want gay representation and this whole ''they're just friends, they're brothers, it's platonic'' has become a great and easy way for creators to queerbait the audience and exclude possible gay relationships from media. Even homophobes who laughed at first when platonic relationships were brought up are completely on board now if it means they can protect their GOAT of being shipped with another man.
No, it wasn’t "the writers" it was executive producer Christian Linke who said it in an interview as an after thought because he wanted people to stop shipping JayVik. And it was also clear that he was mixing up being Aro with being Ace
There's no canonically anything in the series itself of him being Ace
I'm saying this as someone who is AroAce because it annoys me a lot that people are willing to give him extra points for representation that doesn't exist
Like, tomorrow he can come out and say "Hey, him being ace was a joke actually" and there'll be nothing to contradict him because there's literally nothing in the show to tell that Viktor might be Ace
Like we deserve better representation than an after thought during an interview
Honestly the entire "Viktor is ace thing" is a load of BS to me lol. That information was dropped at a time when the Viktor/Jayce ship was peaking and it felt more like a way to shut up the shippers than anything else. If Viktor was actually ace, they could've shown that to us, but they didn't. And like you said, him being asexual doesn't mean he couldn't be gay and into Jayce lol, which just shows that these writers don't actually know anything about asexuality.
Also, it's a negative sterotype to make the disabled character the only Asexual character in the cast, and just looking at the entire situation it seems in really bad taste. I like ace-spec Viktor but the way it was done feels so icky to me and contradictory to his character that I can't get behind it.
@sweatygoblin2335
Oh, I agree. Perhaps “stoic” would have been a better word. He cares deep down, but on a very surface level he seems cold (and stereotypes are always surface level)
I like how Viktor is making everyone from straight men to lesbians go crazy, truly Glorious power
This is the Glorious Evolution the world needs
twinks making a comeback is the true glorious evolution
even irl viktor is evolving people xD
As the machine herald once said “Join The Glorious Evolution!”
These dudes would 100% join the commune
I mean who wouldn’t.
A life free of suffering and I could get turned into a sickass android puppet thingy.
Sign me up!
"viktor is making straight men lose their minds" - I got flasbacks from Astarion and all the posts made by straight guys realizing they're attracted to him :p
Also can't really blame the one attracted to Viktor... he's way too pretty in s2
Yes, Viktor can save us. He definitely saved me from a breakdown or two.
Also... JayVik is one of the hottest, but also most poetic ships that has come out in recent years, and that's saying A LOT
YES YES YES YES SAME
The weird thing is that Viktor is not shy 😅 Yes, he is introverted but when It's time for him to talk he is really assertive!
If that one guy doesn't learn a lesson about the value of being honest and vulnerable in a relationship then he might at least have a career in method acting
and suddenly the crowd has lost their pants type man 💕
I had a male friend look almost exactly like Viktor w/ the same personality and, if I had a nickel for every straight guy at school he turned bi, I’d have two (probably more) damn nickels
VIKTOR NATION KEEPS WINNING
Also PLEASE make a video on JayVik! And the whole Christian Linke vs JayVik voodoo bc that shit is funny as hell
I am repulsed by romantic gestures, but I too would smooch him and let him turn me into a cyborg
Gurl you put out like 3 videos in like a week??? You are are amazing
and Viktor is for the girls, gays and the straights....he is for everyone
(he did nothing wrong idc what anyone says)
YES OH MY GOD YES- i read this on twitter and it's the funniest thing
A video about people simping for Viktor yes please
I know right, the most relatable thing wver😊
I loved Viktor in the first season, my friends and I all hyperfixated on individual characters and would send fanart to each other etc. Season 2, it hadn't come out and I said to a friend "I hope we get to see Viktor" and she said "don't worry I think so!" Now I'm looking back on that convo like "dude he became the whole plot line for season 2, you got to see him A LOT"
Love viktor, love the cosplays, fanart, and jokes about hexstrap lol
Let's go, Arcane, I literally just finished season 2 last night!
That ✨ *_Glorious Evolussy_* ✨ got them acting crazy just like Jayce
Oh my god, this video needed to be a lot longer. All of these stories went in directions I was NOT EXPECTING (I know this is a hard topic to ask more content out of, but please, I'd like to see more of it if it ever comes out)
Me too
as a viktor stan this is actually insane 😭
I am convinced that post 3 isn't ACTUALLY speaking wimpy/pathetic, he just believes he is. For once, he's talking about his life and his weaknesses in an open and honest way. And as it turns out, he discovers that being open about your weaknesses doesn't undermine your character, it strengthens it.
Yeah dude is calling that “submissive.”
Like being honest and vulnerable is an act of submission.
@@samkeiser9776 Exactly, and the way he sees Viktor as inherently “weak and pathetic” just because he has a disability. It’s really such a crazy way of interpreting the world.
As a mostly straight woman, I find Caitlyn the most attractive. I love her expressions and how she interacts and I can't stop staring at her 😅
These men heard “Viktor Nation rise up” and answered the call
Understandable, Viktor is GLORIOUSLY beautiful. I love him. Though fr, reading that 4chan post for the first time is wild.
the 4chan bros finally experienced how representation matters 😂
Me, a lesbian who knows nothing about Arcane👀 (admittedly the dude does look like a total fashion icon, so I can see it)
Let's not talk about writing these 4chan posts, just READING them, something about it feels so vile and cursed, should we really be reading these people lose their minds over mr viktor? And yet, stopping reading them is not an option
did Jayce ghost write post 2?
AO3 fanfics are saving men's lives rn, dang.
Can confirm, finding thirst art/fic about a character who reminds you of yourself is a very confidence-boosting experience. I can't imagine the wild ride of finding it about a guy who looks just like you lol
remind me of how i used to hate my skin color, but i really like brown fictional characters and it hits me that I have the same color skin.
i end up liking my color skin so much because i channel my love for brown fictional characters 👏
I can’t believe you’re covering Viktor… never expected to see this great day arrive… great day for Viktor nation.
For post 3, I’m really curious about what the messages he was sending actually sounded like. Because if he’s been strongly influenced by the incel community, then what he describes as trying to sound “whiny” or “pathetic” might just sound nice and not overtly aggressive. Anyway- I LOVE VIKTOR!
i genuinely love how victor doesn't look like a character that was deliberately designed to be hot (even if you do know what the girls and the gays like), he just sort of turned out that way. like a miracle child
You know what's insane?
There are guys I know who'd call women being attracted to Viktor a brain disease.
Goddamn that first 5 seconds was wild to hear
finally an arcane video from Coley!
the journeys these men have been on, i wish them luck
The last time I was this early for a Coley video, Destiel had only just become canon
I hate and love how the “Victor nation how we feeling?” Meme has become my newest vocal stim 😭😭
this title would send a victorian child into a fit
The date story had me oscillating between “this guy should come clean that he’s not Viktor” and “this guy is literally Viktor”. I mean, I don’t know the characters that well but obsessing about some weird question vaguely related to research seems pretty Viktor-like.
viktor out here doing the lords work fr
First I find your TMA video and then you bless me with Arcane content a few short hours later??? PRAISE. Thank you coley. 😩
It’s sad the thing they took away was some girls like pathetic guys (which is true) and not “maybe I should be honest and treat women like people.”
Viktor is such a well written character. He has one of the best lines of season 1: “in the pursuit of great, we failed to do good”. Season 1 was written like a tragedy, and his storyline was some of the darkest. He has every right to resent Piltover for overlooking his accomplishments in favor of Jayce or being responsible for his chronic, later terminal, condition, but doesn’t. Bc he doesn’t do this work for glory. He works day and night to perfect Hextech bc he cares about people. He’s flawed, but capable of self reflection.
I'm lesbian but this animated man is making me ask my sexuality. That has to be a superpower of some sort, power of making straight men gay and gay women straight. jkjk ofc
He's just so pretty
When Viktor isn't on screen, i am asking "Where is Viktor???"
As a straight man, can confirm this is true
Viktor even made men experience GLORIOUS EVOLUTION just by existing.
viktor is making me lose my mind he is so fine omfg save me viktor
Funny thing is, Viktor isn't even whiny and submissive 😭 so that third guy wasn't even being accurate lol
Guy learns that not trying to be "manly" and being vulnerable is a valid strat.
take us to church viktor