Have Survivors Learned to Play Against The Twins? | Dead by Daylight

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  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024

Комментарии • 135

  • @Styxir
    @Styxir Год назад +151

    That first Twins game resulting in 4 slugs and 2 people giving up is about the most twins thing.

    • @hardboiled2987
      @hardboiled2987 Год назад +9

      Survivors when the killer doesnt play the wholesome gentleman killer playstyle and doesnt let them win:

    • @anotherguy3082
      @anotherguy3082 Год назад +9

      ​@@hardboiled2987survivors when the killer plays a GAME in a way that brings 0 enjoyment to anyone

    • @O_acelippy
      @O_acelippy Год назад +6

      Honestly tho nobody is to blame for playing the killer the way that is the most efficiently designed. We can only hope BHVR reworks Twins in a way that keeps their design but adds a bit more flavor in terms of fun.

    • @swatson5699
      @swatson5699 Год назад +17

      @@anotherguy3082You can get mad at killers for a lot of things but if you’re blaming a Twins for slugging you must have never played Twins in your life. It is literally impossible to not slug as Twins unless you never use Victor. It takes so long to switch to Charlotte and walk all the way to the person to downed.

    • @makashika
      @makashika Год назад +9

      ​​​​@@anotherguy3082survivors when the killer plays the way that best fits the kit they were designed with:
      No seriously, twins isn't fun for survivors because they're a slug killer, and being on the ground isn't fun. That's BHVR by design. Blame the devs not the players.
      Edit: Also, if people find winning fun, then arguably this playstyle is fun for someone at least. YOU cannot tell someone what they should enjoy. You can hold your opinions on it, but ultimately people are allowed to have fun in their own way. You are responsible for your own fun, and no one else's. If you want to play super nice and only play casually, that's fine, but the killer has no obligation to play how you want them to and vice versa.

  • @jacobcoates7987
    @jacobcoates7987 Год назад +102

    People are going to forget all about this video by the time they find a twins to play against 😂

    • @Eyebrowguy420
      @Eyebrowguy420 Год назад +2

      Fax I have Not Faced A Twins In God Knows How Long

    • @badlynice4692
      @badlynice4692 Год назад +1

      Just group against her that all u need to remember

    • @rainyzzz_1235
      @rainyzzz_1235 Год назад +1

      @@Eyebrowguy420thats a long book title

  • @cwvowel
    @cwvowel Год назад +64

    I like the idea of this series. What you should do Tofu play 1 or 2 games in pubs and hopefully have the "what not to do" side then showcase a scrim of "what to do" while commenting over the gameplay. I would find that super useful

  • @TNTthepyro
    @TNTthepyro Год назад +6

    I personally would love to see a follow up video for this killer as well as every killer on how to "counter play" and adapt to the killer.
    You could go into both the beginner aspects like a breakdown of how the power works and some related techs to deal with them. (Anything like holding victor hostage or disarming a trapper trap allowing someone to walk across it while its still 'disarming') You also could address the most common/popular addons to lookout for and how to recognize or deal with those.
    I like the idea of each of these "Have Survivors learned to play against X" each having a video "Here's how to play Survivor against X" almost making each killer have a two part episode.
    Great vid as always Tofu! Get some rest and feel better!

  • @matthenley3886
    @matthenley3886 Год назад +11

    I don’t play against twins often but when I do I know I’m getting slugged.

  • @MonkeyBurrito
    @MonkeyBurrito Год назад +12

    A series on everything I hate about solo q lmao this is gonna turn out being some good content

  • @MisterPatak
    @MisterPatak Год назад +16

    Can't wait for the Plague and Hag editions of this series 😂

    • @amphiee1873
      @amphiee1873 Год назад

      Freddy, Singularity, Demogorgon, Skull Merchant when she gets reworked, so much content potential from this series

    • @amphiee1873
      @amphiee1873 Год назад

      Tombstone Myers could also be a good one

  • @chrisaguilar7805
    @chrisaguilar7805 Год назад +2

    The follow up video showing a comp game against the killer and highlighting what to do and not to do would be a great idea

  • @cama1566
    @cama1566 Год назад

    That's a GOOD idear to explain why survivor get rekt on a game against "Thing" because a lot of survivor still NOT UNDERSTAND what they have to do to play against !
    Thx Ohtofu for that !

  • @KiyaAkiyama
    @KiyaAkiyama Год назад +1

    This is actually really good video. I realized some people dunno how to play against Hag cause so little people play her.
    Specially when they run rusty shackles.

  • @fluffatron754
    @fluffatron754 Год назад +1

    Would love to see pinhead as part of this series. Notorious pub stomp killer, I find him really interesting but wish more people understood his mechanics.

  • @JDIronBeard
    @JDIronBeard Год назад +2

    Hmm I don’t understand why anyone would give up… That looked like a real fun match

  • @vickygayming
    @vickygayming Год назад +3

    Excellent, a series that you can make content for forever!

  • @MrCybersnow
    @MrCybersnow Год назад

    We need a "how to play against" series from a Killer main!

  • @Deathwingburn
    @Deathwingburn Год назад +1

    the thing is the person saying learn to play is even funnier because there is a blue glyph challenge where alll you have to do is interreact with it so you were both right

  • @apexspirit3793
    @apexspirit3793 Год назад

    THREE GAME TEST SAMPLE????!! This is as thorough the world health organization

  • @CoconutChriss
    @CoconutChriss Год назад

    Great idea for a video format. Thumbs up!

  • @BunnychanFarabee
    @BunnychanFarabee Год назад

    Funny you make this video, I had a game last night where survivors were staying grouped up at all times against me on Twins. Which as you can imagine, made the typical playstyle quite difficult.

    • @SielAzur
      @SielAzur Год назад

      Stop lying you did not play twins 💀

  • @cookiecreep9204
    @cookiecreep9204 Год назад +1

    The two times i played against twins, i have noticed that the most annoying thing is that kicking victor means basically nothing. Yes, he is back to Charlotte if i kick him after he misses... Then i get like 10 seconds on the gen before he is pouncing on top of me again. I feel like the counterplay does nothing, and the only thing that let me escape one of those games is just how clunky Twins are, that changing between the baby and Charlotte takes longer than the cooldown after kicking Victor...

  • @Terrantular
    @Terrantular Год назад +2

    @OhTofu I like watching you because I enjoy your commentary and gameplay. I like your commentary because you have a good voice and good personality, I think you're funny and charming. I like your gameplay because you're high skill. You make plays that I don't think of, sometimes so subtle I'd miss them or not understand unless you explain. That's why I get the most out of your videos commentating your own gameplay.
    I think the idea of you explaining perfect gameplay for tricky builds sounds awesome, like an encyclopedia of perfect play. I'd really prefer watching YOU execute the plays, though. When you cast someone else's gameplay, I'm less emotionally invested because that person is not the one I'm talking to- er, being talked at by. It also makes me think they might've just done the most direct means to victory, while you sometimes go out of your way to force a scenario for a teaching moment.
    I trust your experience and knowledge, but if you're hesitant or feel unconfident, maybe hire a specialized coach or recruit a comp player to help you outline every relevant counterplay for a particular subject. Otherwise, I think a good approach might be a slight change-up to your usual format. I'm thinking an outlined guide going through points of counterplay with highlights taken from competitive gameplay. That would cut out a lot of the fluff (that is someone I don't know playing a full game out at skill levels that make the game almost unrecognizable) and be just the moments that resemble chases that I might see and can learn from, guided by your lovely commentary.
    Sorry for text wall, looking forward to all your future vids!

  • @Squintzy
    @Squintzy Год назад +1

    I would love to see some pro survivors play against twins with your commentary

  • @kingbob514
    @kingbob514 Год назад +1

    The blue glyph has versions where you do and don't have to escape.

  • @malachihill8677
    @malachihill8677 Год назад

    The input radius to kick him is deceivingly small as far as I remember. That's why people walk in and out after the miss.

  • @zeos26
    @zeos26 Год назад +1

    My friend has been playing almost exclusively survivor for like 5 years. Like a week ago he still hadn't thought of just holding Victor...

  • @coltongropp1465
    @coltongropp1465 Год назад

    Victor's weakness is trees. Had a guy try to jump me for three gens looping a tree. Probably new killer, but still Victor can't get the right angle looping trees.

  • @The_Dragon_Tiamat
    @The_Dragon_Tiamat Год назад

    Ngl I personally really like it when people hold victor hostage cuz I'm a fairly confident m1 killer. So what usually happens when someone is like, "dw guys I'll hold on to victor" is i ignore them and down someone else and they're doing litterally nothing. I only recall victor when I need him so I'm cool with basically a free downed survivor.

  • @NameIsDoc
    @NameIsDoc Год назад

    Twins are my guilty pleasure killer. Generally I enjoy playing them and do so whenever there isn't a critical bug on them. Many survivors don't know how to face twins and many twins players don't know how to play them ether so here are some tips
    There are two different schools on how to play twins Victor first and Charlette first.
    Victor first is about using Victor to attack a survivor first for pressure. This is great for slowing the game down.The downside is that Victor is often kidnapped by some survivors leaving you a m1 killer.
    Charlette first is about using Victor to finish a chase. This makes chases a breeze...however The downsides are you need to get a hit first and Victor is often somewhere near the survivor and you have to trek over to hook them. And that can cause a ton of complications.
    Both playstyles are great and viable but learning to swap between is the best. Victor can make quick work of many chases and be used to shut a survivor down for long periods of time.
    Broken status effect is twins best friend. Their best perk is forced penance due to the fact that slugging is a part of the process for twins your gonna be able to get a lot of protection hits. Anything to keep survivors hurt.
    Franklins is another wonderful perk as greedy survivors will try to loop back for their stuff which can give you a great opportunity to hit them with Victor or have charlette proxy camp some charges off the item.
    The best way to aim Victor is to aim in a direction and try to strafe until the target can be pounced. They also must hit the butt of a injured survivor because the hitboxes are garbage.
    Other good perks on twins oppression, pain res, gift of pain, hysteria, tinker, sloppy, thrilling trimmers, knockout, jolt. I haven't played twins in a while so I don't know how the newer perks work but that hindered one is nasty.

  • @gostpatatos1633
    @gostpatatos1633 Год назад +1

    Love this New Serries Idea! ❤

  • @Neekowitz
    @Neekowitz Год назад

    Hey tofu. Love the vids. P100 twins main here. Also arguably have the fastest 4k in the world at 2:38. I literally have a tech that shouldn't be a tech n it's called the "I don't play against twins ever/ never/ rarely tech (lol you choose which word to use) basicly if I pounce on a survivor I believe is a weak link or atleast the less exp player (Normally pouncing on a survivor IL leave them to it n cause trouble elsewhere to apply more pressure) less exp players I can follow up w an m1 easily cause they try shaking vic off immediately n are not aware survivors stop in place** to remove vic lol. There is other techs but cause this was the title of your vid I thought I'd share.

    • @anon294
      @anon294 Год назад

      Bro twin mains aren't real

    • @Neekowitz
      @Neekowitz Год назад +1

      I myself have only faced 1** twin player since their release. Alot of ppl actually don't know what to do....however fact is....almost everything a survivor can do counters the twins. Twins are killers on hard mode. Ofcourse the ability makes them the best at camping tunneling...but with all the slow n clunkyness (25+ sec to hook after a vic down n vic dying on stairs afterward for ex) n survivors will complain n even give up just seeing the twins cause of the strength n strat of the twins slugging. If they just understood....n got on the damn hook! Haha

    • @Martin-cl8ky
      @Martin-cl8ky Год назад

      ​@@Neekowitzmaybe the camping will slow down now theres that new mechanic coming out where survs get a 100% escape if your too close to hook for too long

    • @Neekowitz
      @Neekowitz Год назад

      Also I'm just glad the twins have Ben getting a little traction. Least vids on yt. They are very fun. Very rewarding. Even "pro" killer mains cannot rock the twins the RIGHT way. It isn't all just camping n tunneling. Lot of brain power n map awareness is needed.

    • @HD-vu5vv
      @HD-vu5vv Год назад +1

      ​@@Neekowitzwoah, your tech is called all that?

  • @Pois0n_1vy_
    @Pois0n_1vy_ Год назад

    I love this! Please more!

  • @quincycat
    @quincycat Год назад

    Based on my experience, they really haven't. HOWEVER, it is *so* damn fun to face a squad that does now how to counter my nonsense. Last night I had a wild game on Thompson House against a group that played incredibly efficiently. Reset away from gens, didn't allow me to snowball, baited Victor shots well, the works. Such a damn good time when it all comes together.

  • @RandomGaming114
    @RandomGaming114 Год назад

    I really like this idea of the series

  • @ndl6827
    @ndl6827 Год назад

    I like that the Karen is a twitchy and she's telling you 'learn to play the game" - jeez Tofu, ya n00b!

  • @samuraituff9653
    @samuraituff9653 Год назад +1

    To counter twins you hold Victor hostage that's what I always do and it works pretty well for me I love when Victor is on my back and if they want Victor back they have to chase and down me
    Or I could just go into a locker and waste time like that then hope out last second when the bar is full depends if there close or not
    Just keep Victor on you for as long we possible

  • @bolthusbear
    @bolthusbear Год назад +1

    Honestly I thought that the proposed bonus video was gonna be the last game of this video. It's kinda high-effort content so I feel you if you don't do it, but if later videos in this series were the Two Solo Queue Games of Scientific Method followed by the One Scrim Game, I think that'd be a good cadence.

  • @MidnxghtSky
    @MidnxghtSky Год назад

    The #1 thing you do against Twins is heal. Also use lockers when Victor is active, but mostly, just make sure you heal.

  • @rossb6739
    @rossb6739 Год назад

    I’m such a sicko, I LOVE watching Twins gameplay

  • @SirJello
    @SirJello Год назад

    You should name the series "have survivors learned?" So you can also throw in add-ons and perks too

  • @LegoLynden
    @LegoLynden Год назад

    would love to see a pinhead video done this way

  • @KindaSubpar
    @KindaSubpar Год назад

    “Learn how to play the game” for not knowing what each of the 100 glyphs do is hilarious to me

  • @MrBlushroom
    @MrBlushroom Год назад

    love this new "thing"!

  • @JustMiluna
    @JustMiluna Год назад

    I think people group up in the worst moments,for are too greedy. Second match they were always around, and injured. And why no one use the lockers😔
    This video tho, it's so good. Can't wait to get to that Sadako's one. Nice stuff as always Tofu💞

  • @arbiter919
    @arbiter919 Год назад

    Dead By Daylight Survivors! What do they know? Do they know things? Let's find out!

  • @VintherVerse
    @VintherVerse Год назад

    For sure do an explanation video to spread awareness of what the correct play is against twins or sadako in future

  • @jonson116
    @jonson116 Год назад

    One question kinda unrelated to the video. I've been seeing the "package loss" symbol pop up multiple times throughout your video. Is that a new problem for you? Because I've been having problems with package loss since the last update and was wondering if that was a bug or just my net.

  • @ryanspencer3279
    @ryanspencer3279 Год назад

    Will you do another tournament with swish?

  • @Payyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
    @Payyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Год назад +1

    I think if you were to upload a video on how to counter twins it could be really helpful for people who are trying to get into comp. Maybe not so much for pubs players since you only see a (good) twins player once every 2,000 matches.

  • @jacobcoates7987
    @jacobcoates7987 Год назад

    How to play against legion wwould be nice. Stuff like 99ing your mend if the legion is still running around in frenzy, window teching. Even stuff like camping a pallet or legion teching yourself to stop the legion from chaining frenzy hits.

  • @PigGuy2301
    @PigGuy2301 Год назад

    The biggest strength of the twins is that nobody plays them.

  • @missglitchi
    @missglitchi Год назад

    hey, can u find out if the anti hook thing works for victor??

  • @Arlithian
    @Arlithian Год назад

    I liked the series because I didn't know the 'correct' way to play Twins anyway.

  • @PlatonistAstronaut
    @PlatonistAstronaut Год назад

    I will literally watch any content Tofu wants to do lol.

  • @Jacqli-Rivoli
    @Jacqli-Rivoli Год назад

    Every time I see a Feng wearing bunny sweater, I just want to pick them up and throw them into a garbage can.

  • @LittleSebastianGaming
    @LittleSebastianGaming Год назад

    I can't tell you how many Twins games I've played where survivors will take Victor off rather than save their teammates off hook because they think Vic blocks that ability

  • @bitbangs
    @bitbangs Год назад +1

    i am an artist main and i feel most people dont know how to play against her...maybe just cause im at lower mmr? maybe cause she isnt a common killer? but i think that could make another vid for this series.

    • @cwvowel
      @cwvowel Год назад

      MMR has a lot to do with it. At lower MMR you have the newer players that have never even seen artist before. As an artist main also, I've experienced this many times. Some end game chats are players stating that I'm their 1st artist.

  • @AdamMarshall-o9o
    @AdamMarshall-o9o Год назад

    All they would have to do in my opinion to make it abit more fair on the survivors is make the cooldown time for victor longer. Right now kicking him is almost pointless because he recharges and is ready to go almost instantly and can very quickly get anywhere on the map. You kick him and within about 10/15 seconds he's already back on you even if you're far away. Victor should have a 20+ second cool down rate to make it abit more fair. It's lucky hardly anyone uses the twins because they are OP when someone who knows what they are doing is using them.

  • @CrazyDontMeanWrong
    @CrazyDontMeanWrong Год назад

    last time I played twins, I tried to play fair... until the survivors started saboing hooks and body blocking and doing everything in their power to make sure I couldn't pick anyone up. Got super salty when I got sick of it and slugged them all for the 4k, like, what did they really expect?

  • @MonkeyBurrito
    @MonkeyBurrito Год назад

    I think Knight might be a good killer for this type of video. He's not played often and even tho his counterplay isn't too complex it could make good content. Oh, and obviously Hag too

    • @samuraituff9653
      @samuraituff9653 Год назад

      Knight is definitely one of the more played killers for me also he doesn't really have counter play pre dropping is bad staying on loops is bad
      You can hold w but if it's a good knight they will literally predict you're movements which is expected but still
      So if you hold w you can still get caught if you pre drop you're done and also they could just place their guard for 1 second and still get you

  • @mac-n-sneeze
    @mac-n-sneeze Год назад

    The idea seem cool!

  • @ARMouser
    @ARMouser Год назад

    I really like this series but I would love to see it without perks and addons. Is this series supposed to be sweaty or basic comprehension of counterplay? How much of your win was due to perks/addons and how much was due to pure counterplay?

  • @anotherguy3082
    @anotherguy3082 Год назад +3

    Best strat against Twins:
    Step 1: listen out for the sound prompt when victor is released
    Step 2: alt-F4 and go and do something actually enjoyable

    • @VoldKira
      @VoldKira Год назад

      You're so funny. Tell another one.

  • @chancesmith3720
    @chancesmith3720 Год назад

    I love this idea

  • @blakebroacher9509
    @blakebroacher9509 Год назад

    six minutes in: this was a good game one.
    THERE ARE 19 more minutes, what happens?!

  • @jamescommaticus3215
    @jamescommaticus3215 Год назад +1

    I remember when twins came out

  • @blckorb6322
    @blckorb6322 Год назад

    After seeing what perks they were running… and then having the audacity to say learn to play the game…is such a survivor mindset

  • @jjj-11
    @jjj-11 10 месяцев назад

    They literally haven’t. They still go inside lockers 😂😂😂

  • @meganrhees6240
    @meganrhees6240 Год назад

    if you need to live to get blue glyphs to work anyways, why is she stopping midchase to channel it

  • @AnRaksha
    @AnRaksha Год назад

    Perhaps shout out to other streamers/content creators who main the killer in question as well.

  • @AnOceanMan
    @AnOceanMan Год назад

    As a solo q shitter Pinhead, Hag, and Skull merchant seem to have the hardest counterplay for my random teammates. (Prob twins too but I have not played against a Twins in years so don't know)

  • @kevinsnewhorizon
    @kevinsnewhorizon Год назад

    Short answer: no
    Reason: how rare they are in the wild

  • @Cooked_As
    @Cooked_As Год назад

    Step 1: kidnap Victor
    Step 2: profit??

  • @Nathanhendrickson
    @Nathanhendrickson Год назад

    Have people learned to play against scratched mirror myers?

  • @Martin-cl8ky
    @Martin-cl8ky Год назад

    What about putting up some vids people sent in as they weren't sure why they lost-if you still have them? Not sure how much that would help considering your other suggestions although

  • @friendly115
    @friendly115 Год назад

    how can i learn how to play against twins if i have 500 hours and i played against twins 3 times in total.

  • @spycrabxt
    @spycrabxt Год назад +1

    Oh tofu please do trickster next!

  • @jdawg4510
    @jdawg4510 Год назад

    Most people are horrible at adapting to change so they just auto-pilot and hope for a good outcome.

  • @floofzykitty5072
    @floofzykitty5072 Год назад

    Survivors have not learned how to counter Plague. Pretty sure I have Max MMR since I rarely get anything less than a 3 or 4k and I still get survivors that cleanse the whole match giving me my power. There seems to be always one person that drags the whole team down with their feeding.

  • @ynglink
    @ynglink Год назад

    I like the idea, but the name of the series needs workshopped. Maybe "Do Survs Know How?" type of way

  • @blazeyprime4470
    @blazeyprime4470 Год назад

    This is why I stopped playing lol why could I not just have a crouching Mikala that waits for you to hit them.

  • @Solexos
    @Solexos Год назад

    Have survivors learned to play against Legion? The counterplay forever has been to split up and not heal but legion is still so good against non swf players. Could be interesting

  • @jamie1224
    @jamie1224 Год назад +1

    I'm predicting no. Because nobody plays against twins.

  • @MatiMuffin
    @MatiMuffin Год назад

    i feel u just dont play enough Twins Tofu, i play them quite a bit and about 50% of the survivors i get know how to play against this killer.

  • @Darkpoision64
    @Darkpoision64 Год назад

    I feel no one has learned to play against hag...😂😂 like the forgotten about killers are probably the most intresting. Twins though is probably the least played but honestly one of the hardest snowballing killers.

  • @dartrunner
    @dartrunner Год назад +1

    So learning to play against the Twins is just "don't get hit so you can't be slugged for 4 minutes". Other than that is there even any real counterplay?

  • @moist9839
    @moist9839 Год назад

    You sounded like the clown when you coughed 😂

  • @indigo...
    @indigo... Год назад

    Twins content!!

  • @rezvincent
    @rezvincent Год назад

    ive been playing this game since like… 2018 and seriously struggle. maybe one competitive game explanation, and a shorter tail end saying what us soloque pub gamers need to do !

  • @BIGMIJ0
    @BIGMIJ0 Год назад

    Every twins killer I've gone against swears they are low tier and have probably never played the game before

  • @mohanmc1681
    @mohanmc1681 Год назад

    Upload comp twins gameplay plz

  • @mousepillzfox2232
    @mousepillzfox2232 Год назад

    Toxic Tofu series when?

  • @ejlive1997
    @ejlive1997 Год назад

    People don't go against Twins enough ngl if I get twins someone dcs might even be me cause it's gonna be a boring match

  • @gabrielmartins7642
    @gabrielmartins7642 Год назад

    We want HAG

  • @laurenc3779
    @laurenc3779 Год назад +4

    tofu how dare you not know how some obscure tome challenge works, you noob

  • @phoebe_nerd
    @phoebe_nerd Год назад

    I dont want twins to get reworked 😢

  • @envy7455
    @envy7455 Год назад

    Why did I just now get the notification?

  • @Exerlin
    @Exerlin Год назад

    have survivors learned to play against the hag? The answer is no and it is pretty sad

  • @Operative34
    @Operative34 Год назад

    I think the premise is a little flawed in that, I think enough people know how to play against twins... but those people don't want to play against twins. Twins games are often very boring, drawn out slug fests, which is a problem for 2 reasons. New players don't know what to do and give up. Experienced players do know what to do, but get little or no enjoyment out of the gameplay and they give up and go next.

  • @Demonsouls1993
    @Demonsouls1993 Год назад

    how can survivors learn to counter the twins nobody plays them cuz they are bugged to hell

  • @Nobara-X
    @Nobara-X Год назад

    🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @DonovenGreen
    @DonovenGreen Год назад

    Nurse please