@@TownBiness97 not really considering the player character is a legit testament to that and somehow survived. Even if that bullet hit him 50/50 you are still gonna die lmao
@@maskedlibrarian1483 Well how come you can kill him in game? Didn't Legate Lanius also say he was going to kill you? And Caesar? And pretty much everyone else in game? Stop fangirling
@@TownBiness97Lanius is fully equipped with weapons and armor that let's him wade through gunfire. Caesar is surrounded by bodyguards, and anyone else that threatens you usually does so unprovoked with aggression. This is a case where the player warrants this response, and it's lacking in aggression or malice. It's a matter of fact statement. It can hardly be called a threat, he just tells you what he'll do and will move past the subject nonchalantly.
@@microwavefir3761interestingly, Joshua himself once fit that description. Redemption is interesting. Much like second chances, it’s not so much earned, instead it’s given. What you do afterwards often determines if you deserved it in the first place, and if you keep it.
“Waging war against good people is bad for the soul.” All I can think of is Negan going through it after the fall of his group, finding it all gone and broken, then realizing he did wage war against good people and having to reconcile with that.
@@KnownNiche1999bro what? He very clearly goes through turmoil during his time in jail and definitely shows he’s not a fully remorseless killer, he just broke and adopted an evil identity to get him through a broken world. Not saying he’s a good guy
@@anthonyparillo7832 That's just another way of not being sorry. He hints that he only changed because he was tired of the old stuff. He even said at some point that he would have done the exact same things if he went back in time. I love Negan's character and he is definitely super cool (last interesting plotline of the show too), but as a person he was remorseless
Negan left his jail cell, searched for any remaining members, went right back to his cell. Could've kept walking, could've got revenge. Whether he felt actual remorse or not, his actions left him defeated
You could still finagle to get their outfits regardless of the goodies at the end. My playthroughs actually depend on getting Daniel's hat before the end, for the stat boosts, so I do what needs to be done: reverse-pickpocket a better hat for him (only works while he's sleeping), wait until he wears it, and pickpocket his custom hat.
So perfectly written and Keith Szarabajka did an amazing job voicing Joshua! If you look him up you'll see his normal voice is nothing like Graham's. Stupendous work!
@@Dirtbag-Hyena his voice is a higher pitch compared to Joshua Graham's voice. He makes his voice deeper for Joshua. ruclips.net/user/liveMtI3JFa8fNk?si=xGRLCsfvharWiVhg
you have to remember your own characters lore, not even the devil could keep the courier from doing his job after taking 2 bullets to the head and being buried alive.
Of all the people and monsters I’ve encountered throughout all of the Fallout games I’ve played, Joshua Graham is the only one I was genuinely threatened by.
@AP-mf4fz idk man his stats are actually massive as well. I mean I'm sure you can off him with an entire arsenal in your pip boy after some saves and stimpaks but the guy is literally just a burn victim with a pistol😅😂
1. Invokes relegious imagery 2. Flatly delivered, not a threat, but a promise 3. Said with the cold, unimpressed tone of someone who saw death and found it lacking.
@@ConfusedFroggo145 Honestly its just a mood. survivalist for low carry weight big crits Elite riot gear for normal runs Power armor for "I didnt go through the trouble to get this armor not to eat your bullets, laugh in your face and disrespectfully murder you"
The right going after children who are victims of rape, gay people, the right voting to keep marriage to kiddies legal in red states, black people with the drug war and waging war on the working class while bastardizing religion for profit: "huh what does that mean?"
"you will not leave this valley" Not even your corpse will leave, he will be very keen to make that promise solid (Beware the dark flames in this comment)
Every time I go to Joshua Graham I'm kind because our beliefs are alike. And also because I didn't go to him as my Legion Warrior. If I had, the situation would be different. I've maxed out survivability, durability, melee and unarmed. No chance for survival for him. Even Death claws are easy prey for my character
@@mildly_miffed_man1414 You don't even know me to know what kind of guy I am, keyboard warrior. You seem offended, did me disagreeing with you hurt your feelings?
The finishing of checking a gun as he finishes the ‘but it’s the most important thing I’ve said’ is fantastic timing, and well in the character of how Joshua would say it.
I would rather not see him again, but have his legend very much known, maybe a new settlement for New Canaanite survivors and converted wastelanders who speak of a legendary saint sent by God who saved them, who was baptized by fire and had one burning inside of him. That after his victory he continued to spread the word of God to wastelanders, and that he simply nobody knows if he is dead or alive, some are even sceptacle of this supposed Saint of the burning heart and how dangerous he is, with the only evidence of his existence being an engraved 1911 he left behind and the stories passed on from others of a mysterious burned man.
What I like about this is that while Joshua vehemently disagrees with Daniel, he still treats him as a brother and defends him, even when Daniel isn't physically present. Him telling Six that Daniel is not to be considered a pushover or that he won't let his death be in vain just warms my heart.
That last quote always lives rent free in my head, as does another quote from Joshua's voice actor from a different game: All in Life is choice, and your day to choose has come.
Love having Joshua as your companion and quickly realising that you're HIS companion as he refuses to be passive, hold your shit, talk before the mission, or fast travel. 😂
Not exactly related, but after realizing that he won't take any items from me I tried all the companion options to see what else was different. I found was that you can tell him to fight melee, and he will say "Fine. If that is your style, I will adapt." and he just holds his 1911 by the barrel and beats people with it. What an absolute Chad.
My courier may be decorated by armour that can withstand a thousand shots, a gun that'll destroy machines themselves, but Joshua's presence itself is respectable, despite his past. Plus, just rude to hurt daniel and the tribes
Joshua is the only companion who scared me into putting the gun down when he glared at me over the sights of my own pistol and said simply "you're not the first to have tried"
Blame consoles for that, they didn't have anymore place on the disk and Bethesda said "no companions from dlc". Obsidian had to cut Ulysses as companion after that (and he already had lines recorded more that half of existing companions)
The funny thing is is that you can't even actually kill him until you complete certain quests and he delivers so much narly damge 😊 the man is like the mysterious stranger in flesh
@@Tusk4-zm6ltwhich is made even funnier given that he’s not a ‘mainline’ Christian… (Joshua Graham I mean) he’s A Latter Day Saint… (a Mormon for those who don’t know) (which still exists post war… may I add)
If you managed to do that, Difficult Pete would probably be your next opponent Also automatic weapons have piss poor damage in NV for most part so... Better have something with high enough damage rating to go through Joshua's thick DT
He warns you about testing the patience of a calm man, warns you about he is a protective shepherd to his flock, and warns you to not harm your own soul
@@owenblount7334 Canonically, he'd quick draw his pistol and blast your ass before you could even pull the trigger, I mean like seriously do you really think it's hard to beat an AI from way back when this game was made? No it's not a damn Fromsoft game.
the writers of New Vegas did their homework when writing Joshua and Daniel. Joshua represents the old mormon cult; reclusive, philosophical, and hyper violent. The horrible atrocity that was the Mountain Meadows Massacre is something the Legion and the White Legs would consider a master stroke of strategy and war. But to any sane person, would consider it a slaughter and murder of innocence. Joshua represents that church and the years following it. Daniel represents the modern church; Philanthropic, spirtual, and reserved. Still capable of violence, but ultimately horrified of its usage and embarrased by the past. Daniel finds both Ceasar and Joshua a disgrace to his faith. And a tarnish on his church. Ceasar is Brigham Young, violent, polygamist, and territorial. Joshua is John Lee, the mormon officer who conducted the massacre and would later on face judgement for it and eventually be executed for the crime. What we see, despite his name, the Burned Man is ultimately a different character in that he represents John's children, who in disgrace took the purpose of reclaiming their family honor by serving the church and the american government where possible, repairing what damage they could, trying to erase their father's stain. And Daniel represents a very specific modern church leader, Elder Henry B. Eyring, who along with church President Gordon B Hinkley, conducted a ceremony at the burial site of the victims with the descendants of the survivors present. They apologized and begged for forgiveness. Eyring said in his speech: "We express profound regret for the massacre carried out in this valley 150 years ago today, and for the undue and untold suffering experienced by the victims then and by their relatives to the present time," Elder Eyring said. "A separate expression of regret is owed the Paiute people who have unjustly borne for too long the principal blame for what occurred during the massacre," he said. "Although the extent of their involve- ment is disputed, it is believed they would not have participated without the direction and stimulus provided by local church leaders and members." Lonesome Road is about tackling your demons, doing what is necessary, and accepting responsibility for your actions. When the time for judgement is called, you will answer for your crimes, that much is garunteed, so you might as well settle your soul and do the right thing as often as you can. Forgive your enemies, and beg for their's. And protect the innocent if they won't.
Profound regret isn't exactly an apology or even close to making amends for the actions taken. Expressing profound regret doesn't show that you accept your responsibility to your actions. It says that you're sorry that you feel this way not I'm sorry that I did this.
Joshua is easily top 3 best characters of New Vegas. His incredible lore, matched with his dialogue and mannerisms make him undeniably intriguing. Truly a genius level character that was performed magnificently by a fantastic voice actor, Keith Szarabajka. Fallout New Vegas is aging like a fine wine thanks to all the unbelievably intelligent minds that went into it. Decades from now, people will still be playing New Vegas. Mark my words.
I have mighty need of Fallout Colorado to have Joshua Graham return or referenced. Plus Colorado has a few radiation related stories that could fit the lore of fallout well, like the Plutonium Rocky Flats Plants fire or the Popcorn Lung case that happened in 2012.
That's a good idea! I'm definitely in the camp of wanting Bethesda and Obsidian to both work on new separate titles. So much good stuff we potentially will never get to see.
I've never heard any lines from any of them aside from online. Only time I played this DLC, some dude ran up to me menacingly so I shot him. Then everyone wanted a piece so I shot them too. Daniel aggroed as soon as I saw him, so he got it too lol by the end of the dlc, I was done in around 30 minutes, didn't talk to a soul, got some map(no clue why) and I was on my way back to new Vegas lol
You hear him say that when you first meet him. There is a dialogue option that basically says what if I just attack you and leave. He then tells you this as a warning.
@@alexkimmel386 that's how i play every fallout, free xp from npcs, just like that, boom, finger snap. And they got free on them too, just go in and take everyhing they have.
Joshua means guardian for a reason. You cannot protect people against threats you do not understand. And unfortunately, to fully understand things sometimes... you have to have done them yourself.
The first time I played the dlc I accidentally shot Follows-chalk because I thought he was another White Leg. Meaning the entire dlc just became "find a map, kill everything and get out". Having done all that makes his threats seem a lot less intimidating the second time I played it 😅
My stealth build + fully upgraded anti material rifle one shoted rawr, I love Joshua but omg he was the one who didn't get a FIRST shot... Then loaded and beated the dlc the way it's supposed to be
I love how every dlc pretty much gives you the armour of every influential character in the dlc but everyone’s couriers are just so badass nobody wears the given outfits, cause we got better
@@wastrelperv And Joshua Graham should be one to talk. He committed atrocities with the Legion. His only judgement came because he failed at being a legion general
That last line sounds so important. Like it could tie into something next. But afaik its just a cool line. He talks it up to be secretly important. And then it just isn't. He basically just tells you don't be a bad person and keep your karma good.
Third line is probably something of a personal experience to Joshua himself. He had waged war against good people in the past, and it was bad for his soul. It's in a way him telling you to not follow in his previous footsteps.
My evil playthrough i think i said something in my head along the lines "i slaughtered your caesar and his legates,mowed down all the fiends,destroyed Mr.House ambition and his goals slaughtered everyone and everything to get here when i send u to your god ask him why...why did he create someone like me to test your faith" then i shot him and he whooped my ass
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I absolutely love how Joshua goes from a warning, to a righteous threat, and finally legitimate moral advice. Such an amazing character.
that threat angered me, and i killed him as a kid... 😆
neither him nore his allies made it out of that valley...
guess god willed it.
@@jesse584 make no mistake, God willing, you will not leave your neighborhood.
@@fuggetaboutfreeman last one to say something like that to me...
well you know what happened. 😆
god saw it another way.
@@jesse584 ok fair enough
@@jesse584 Killing people because someone angered you? Joshua was right: Your soul needs some help. 😂
Gotta love how he's speaking from experience on his last reason.
None of you caught the Easter egg. 2 men on broken mountains 😆 they had feelings for each other to boot.
@@abrahamjohn3665Who? Daniel and Joshua? Caesar or Joshua? Or the Courier and ol Josh?
@@karmickhaleesi All of them together 😏
@@Fossil08just a big ol orgy
@@abrahamjohn3665 brokeback mountain lmao?
1. You will have to deal with Daniel.
2. You will have to deal with me.
3. You will have to deal with yourself.
Ah yes. Good observation.
Genuinley one of the greatest written characters ive ever come across
That sounds so simple but the way he says it is so Metal as ####. I love this man
Telling someone to make their first shot count as if they could miss from 5 feet away is a power move
Mo it's just dumb. He would've gotten his head blown off
@@TownBiness97 not really considering the player character is a legit testament to that and somehow survived.
Even if that bullet hit him 50/50 you are still gonna die lmao
@@maskedlibrarian1483 Well how come you can kill him in game? Didn't Legate Lanius also say he was going to kill you? And Caesar? And pretty much everyone else in game? Stop fangirling
But he delivers the coldest and most monotone threat
@@TownBiness97Lanius is fully equipped with weapons and armor that let's him wade through gunfire. Caesar is surrounded by bodyguards, and anyone else that threatens you usually does so unprovoked with aggression.
This is a case where the player warrants this response, and it's lacking in aggression or malice. It's a matter of fact statement. It can hardly be called a threat, he just tells you what he'll do and will move past the subject nonchalantly.
“Waging war against good people is bad for the soul” is def speaking from personal experience
I love how he puts your morals as the 3rd reason "Its bad for the soul" he cares about your salvation as much as he cares about his own
My character is literally death-bringer of the wastes, I don’t think there’s any shred of redemption for him 😂
He's a fucking Mormon I really don't think you know what he believes 😂
@@microwavefir3761interestingly, Joshua himself once fit that description.
Redemption is interesting. Much like second chances, it’s not so much earned, instead it’s given. What you do afterwards often determines if you deserved it in the first place, and if you keep it.
@@microwavefir3761 Saul was redeemed
@@UnprovenAssumptions damn I wasn’t expecting a philosophical discussion. You make an amazing point tho. You musta played rdr2 recently
He is the personification of the Terrifying Presence perk.
Well-put!
Or those karma perks you get at max level
Honestly, his presence to me has always been more of the soothing kind.
That likely has to do with the fact that I never play an evil character 😅
@@GetsugaTensho85based and Righteous-pilled
Terrifying presence level 2
That 3rd thing he pointed out was personal experience.
You can say that again.
“Waging war against good people is bad for the soul.” All I can think of is Negan going through it after the fall of his group, finding it all gone and broken, then realizing he did wage war against good people and having to reconcile with that.
Pretty sure he expressed nearly no remorse for what he did, simply stating that he does not want to do it anymore.
@@KnownNiche1999bro what? He very clearly goes through turmoil during his time in jail and definitely shows he’s not a fully remorseless killer, he just broke and adopted an evil identity to get him through a broken world. Not saying he’s a good guy
@@anthonyparillo7832
That's just another way of not being sorry. He hints that he only changed because he was tired of the old stuff.
He even said at some point that he would have done the exact same things if he went back in time.
I love Negan's character and he is definitely super cool (last interesting plotline of the show too), but as a person he was remorseless
Negan left his jail cell, searched for any remaining members, went right back to his cell. Could've kept walking, could've got revenge. Whether he felt actual remorse or not, his actions left him defeated
Dude if you conquer 65 tribes you don't get to pull the "I learned my lesson" card xD
Really like how you added such cinematic flair to this quote, and the tasteful restrained style overall. Subscribed.
Thank you! I really appreciate that and glad you enjoyed it.
Subscribed for the same reason
The best thing this dlc did was give you all the unique outfits so you didn’t have to kill great characters
well good to know i kinda killed the dude for his armor and pistol
@ that what we call “instant gratification”
Yes🎉
@@lolznoob1 can't blame you there. I've done it but that's mainly cause I was doing a legion playthrough
You could still finagle to get their outfits regardless of the goodies at the end. My playthroughs actually depend on getting Daniel's hat before the end, for the stat boosts, so I do what needs to be done: reverse-pickpocket a better hat for him (only works while he's sleeping), wait until he wears it, and pickpocket his custom hat.
Being set on fire, and tossed into a canyon didn't kill him
Even our plot armor can't save us
He's definitely got the rad child perk.
The Courier was shot in the head and came back from the dead. They're both forces to be reckoned with.
But this gun I found can!
Cackles maniacally in explosive .50cal
Hey, remember gameplay and lore are different, canonically he could and would most likely whoop the courier's ass.
@@owenblount7334
So perfectly written and Keith Szarabajka did an amazing job voicing Joshua! If you look him up you'll see his normal voice is nothing like Graham's. Stupendous work!
Hilariously enough he uses the same voice for the cryogenically frozen cei of nuka cola in fallout 4, the voice was just that good
@@LucyWest370 dude that's right I totally forgot!! What a voice!
He actually does sound like that unless you're going to tell me he pretends to use that voice in everything he's in.
@@Dirtbag-Hyena his voice is a higher pitch compared to Joshua Graham's voice. He makes his voice deeper for Joshua.
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@@addictedtojet
It's actually not that different. I heard him for years on Angel. Voice pitch changes with everyone depending on the situation.
when the npc makes you feel like a secondary character lol
you have to remember your own characters lore, not even the devil could keep the courier from doing his job after taking 2 bullets to the head and being buried alive.
I wish that there was a 10 hour loop of the ambient sound here like the fire and church bells
Of all the people and monsters I’ve encountered throughout all of the Fallout games I’ve played, Joshua Graham is the only one I was genuinely threatened by.
Took him seriously, the first time😂
And sina- I mean Horrigan
Sounds like something a low level would say lol
Cause you don't want to mess with God
@AP-mf4fz idk man his stats are actually massive as well. I mean I'm sure you can off him with an entire arsenal in your pip boy after some saves and stimpaks but the guy is literally just a burn victim with a pistol😅😂
"God willing you will not leave this Valley"
THAT LINE WAS HARD AS FUCK
1. Invokes relegious imagery
2. Flatly delivered, not a threat, but a promise
3. Said with the cold, unimpressed tone of someone who saw death and found it lacking.
Looks like god wasn’t willing because I left the valley
@@CaseyIsAwesomereligious**
"I will find you..."
@@CaseyIsAwesome"saw death and found it lacking" alone is hard asf. Makes his character so much more dope.
Always loved the survivalist armor. It's my main drip
The couriers finest
Elite Riot Gear is my usual go-to, but the Survivalist's is a good alternative
@@KiiBon Ong I always go for elite riot gear but the survivalist armor is good early game
@@ConfusedFroggo145 Honestly its just a mood.
survivalist for low carry weight big crits
Elite riot gear for normal runs
Power armor for "I didnt go through the trouble to get this armor not to eat your bullets, laugh in your face and disrespectfully murder you"
The survivalist is the coolest FNV character just ahead of Joshua. I wear his armor not for stats but for roleplay/keeping the legend alive...
What an amazing character, so quotable in fact one of his quotes is on a fireman’s memorial bell on a plaque.
Joshua Graham is one of my favorite characters of all time. Every single one of his lines goes hard as fuck.
In essence: "1. Daniel could kill you. 2. I WILL kill you. 3. When I kill you, you'll have to answer to God."
you sire deserve a cookie
#3 is far deeper than a religious platitude.
@@BAGELMENSK Except that's exactly what it is. Murder is a sin, and Joshua knows better than anyone where that road leads.
@@gs4011 I think it can be read both ways. be one religious or not, killing innocents will always impact you negatively.
And all three are meaningless to the courier
“Waging war against good people is bad for the soul”. Very important indeed 🙏🏿
The right going after children who are victims of rape, gay people, the right voting to keep marriage to kiddies legal in red states, black people with the drug war and waging war on the working class while bastardizing religion for profit: "huh what does that mean?"
Muslims should take note's. Cuz they do that all the time.
When you kill dont kill inocents wut he means it damage your soul break you mentaly into reppentment
Doubt there's ever a war where it was agreed the enemy were good people.
Israel has one rotten soul now.
The editing on this goes crazy ngl
Thanks mate!
His dialogue is so legendary heightened only by a great vocal performance.
I still get chills when the Burned Man speaks.
"you will not leave this valley"
Not even your corpse will leave, he will be very keen to make that promise solid
(Beware the dark flames in this comment)
Every time I go to Joshua Graham I'm kind because our beliefs are alike. And also because I didn't go to him as my Legion Warrior. If I had, the situation would be different. I've maxed out survivability, durability, melee and unarmed. No chance for survival for him. Even Death claws are easy prey for my character
@@TownBiness97you sound like you’re on the spectrum. you’re not that guy pal
@@mildly_miffed_man1414 You don't even know me to know what kind of guy I am, keyboard warrior. You seem offended, did me disagreeing with you hurt your feelings?
The Courier is a bad man to bet against especially a guns crit build
@@owenblount7334
Hush, we're speaking in terms of lore not your Mary Sue.
I remember making threats to Joshua Graham. and then his three reasons speech mad me reconsider being evil during Honest Hearts
Interestingly enough it made me consider being evil during Honest Hearts
@@_Qan "Let's test that theory, Graham..."
Yeah those are good reasons alright……
The best evil ending in HH is working with Joshua anyway.
Seems like he passed his speech check on you.
The finishing of checking a gun as he finishes the ‘but it’s the most important thing I’ve said’ is fantastic timing, and well in the character of how Joshua would say it.
This guy was also the voice of the guy who gives you missions in Medal of Honor Frontline
“Waging war against good people is bad for the soul” now that is a strong message
I love how Joshua acknowledges that there is a big chance that he can lose to you, but he’s urging you to do better than he did
He might also be saying that that sin of making war on good people is gonna get your soul sent to hell when he kills you.
Local burn victim utters the coldest lines this side of the US, asked to come back for next fallout game
I would rather not see him again, but have his legend very much known, maybe a new settlement for New Canaanite survivors and converted wastelanders who speak of a legendary saint sent by God who saved them, who was baptized by fire and had one burning inside of him.
That after his victory he continued to spread the word of God to wastelanders, and that he simply nobody knows if he is dead or alive, some are even sceptacle of this supposed Saint of the burning heart and how dangerous he is, with the only evidence of his existence being an engraved 1911 he left behind and the stories passed on from others of a mysterious burned man.
The next one? Fallout 5?
Only thing colder than this man's voice is the words he's spitting with it.
Hard ass bar, tough ass line, bro who cooked up this shit😭😭
Joshua Sawyer the GOAT🙏🏼
@@TVHammondbefore Obsidian was mired in the "modern" audience and "chud destroyers" they call staff
I love the editing and sounds on this short. Really adds to the mood!
Thanks mate! I enjoyed making this one!
The cathedral theme is my favorite in the whole series
"Why are you pressing the tilde key, Courier?"
"Quicksaving to check if you can kill me, Courier?"
@@Pindeckoo1 *Joshua Graham has achieved CHIM*
What I like about this is that while Joshua vehemently disagrees with Daniel, he still treats him as a brother and defends him, even when Daniel isn't physically present.
Him telling Six that Daniel is not to be considered a pushover or that he won't let his death be in vain just warms my heart.
Brothers till the end!
Joshua's dialogue Al through this is legendary, easily top dialogue ever written in a game.
I love the humble "God willing l"
That last quote always lives rent free in my head, as does another quote from Joshua's voice actor from a different game: All in Life is choice, and your day to choose has come.
What was that other game?
@dragonguy556 Halo 4 as the Didact.
@@Impartial_Sojourner thanks
Love having Joshua as your companion and quickly realising that you're HIS companion as he refuses to be passive, hold your shit, talk before the mission, or fast travel. 😂
You can make him sarcastically resort to pistol whipping though.
Don't forget that ungodly aim he killed like most people before I could even see them
Not exactly related, but after realizing that he won't take any items from me I tried all the companion options to see what else was different. I found was that you can tell him to fight melee, and he will say "Fine. If that is your style, I will adapt." and he just holds his 1911 by the barrel and beats people with it. What an absolute Chad.
My courier may be decorated by armour that can withstand a thousand shots, a gun that'll destroy machines themselves, but Joshua's presence itself is respectable, despite his past.
Plus, just rude to hurt daniel and the tribes
Joshua was, in my opinion, the best npc in any fallout game. Hopefully we will get to see the burned man again in a future title.
excellent voice acting. And honestly cannot believe just how good that 1911 cleaning animation is. Has to be one of the best in the game.
Joshua is the only companion who scared me into putting the gun down when he glared at me over the sights of my own pistol and said simply
"you're not the first to have tried"
God I wish he was a full companion
You’d be his companion.
@@ger_red I'd be fine with that.
Blame consoles for that, they didn't have anymore place on the disk and Bethesda said "no companions from dlc". Obsidian had to cut Ulysses as companion after that (and he already had lines recorded more that half of existing companions)
The funny thing is is that you can't even actually kill him until you complete certain quests and he delivers so much narly damge 😊 the man is like the mysterious stranger in flesh
And I think if you did kill him he laiter returns try and kill you again
You can, though. I managed to kill him in the cave right after he was done monologuing.
a warning, a threat, then a lesson. shit goes hard as hell.
Such a underrated voice actor. If he isn't in the next Fallout and Skyrim I will be so upset.
Joshua Graham could make an atheist fear hell
Yeah, as an atheist i was like damn this religion thing sounds pretty cool
@@UndeadKIRA I mean its a real story of a redditor atheist turning to God because of how cool Joshua was and his quote lol.
@@ArosianStagg Really? He must've not been very resolute in his atheism if he was converted by a cool fictional character.....
@@Yorikoification you'd be surprised by how many people have (at least said that they) converted to Christianity because of Joshua Graham.
@@Tusk4-zm6ltwhich is made even funnier given that he’s not a ‘mainline’ Christian… (Joshua Graham I mean) he’s A Latter Day Saint… (a Mormon for those who don’t know) (which still exists post war… may I add)
“You won’t get a second”
Me with turbo and an automatic weapon: BET
If you managed to do that, Difficult Pete would probably be your next opponent
Also automatic weapons have piss poor damage in NV for most part so... Better have something with high enough damage rating to go through Joshua's thick DT
[looks at inventory of 500 mininukes and the MIRV]
*I only ever needed the one.*
Games a lot of times have that dissonance between actually actionable threats from enemies. Still, great character.
He warns you about testing the patience of a calm man, warns you about he is a protective shepherd to his flock, and warns you to not harm your own soul
He makes caring seem so powerful.
Me with my level 50 Courier, GRA Anti-Material rifle loaded up with explosives rounds and a crit sneak build - are you sure, Joshy Boy?
Watch closely to how he checks his gun. It's the same move that John Wick uses.
It actually is a real way to properly inspect a 1911, they put in a ton of detail to make that scene accurate as possible.
John Wick uses the same move as Joshua Graham you mean
"I will find you."
Me leaving a landmine behind me as soon as I pick it up (i feel like i waste them if i don't): popcorn trail :)
Lil bro forgetting he's talking to the guy with an orbital fucking laser
He's in a cave though, there's no sky to call it down from
Indeed talking mad shit to a man with an anti materiel rifle full of explosive rounds
Courier screams "RATIO" as he vaporises the Burned Man from orbit
@@owenblount7334 Canonically, he'd quick draw his pistol and blast your ass before you could even pull the trigger, I mean like seriously do you really think it's hard to beat an AI from way back when this game was made? No it's not a damn Fromsoft game.
@@Tusk4-zm6ltand canonically the courier would tank that shot and return fire turning Joshua into jerky.
"God willing... you will not leave this valley" shieeeee
A very keen lesson for certain world powers in that last point.
Hardest Mormon in fiction
"Dudes be like, 'subway sucks'...
My brother in Christ. You made the sandwich. "
Joshua is the only New Vegas character I respect more than Lanius.
He’d have to be a companion after this. He’s dope.
Imagine if him and The Ghoul ever meet up one day….
I love the Cathedral music from fallout 1 in here
That last lesson, he had to learn it himself the hardest way possible.
the writers of New Vegas did their homework when writing Joshua and Daniel. Joshua represents the old mormon cult; reclusive, philosophical, and hyper violent. The horrible atrocity that was the Mountain Meadows Massacre is something the Legion and the White Legs would consider a master stroke of strategy and war. But to any sane person, would consider it a slaughter and murder of innocence. Joshua represents that church and the years following it. Daniel represents the modern church; Philanthropic, spirtual, and reserved. Still capable of violence, but ultimately horrified of its usage and embarrased by the past. Daniel finds both Ceasar and Joshua a disgrace to his faith. And a tarnish on his church. Ceasar is Brigham Young, violent, polygamist, and territorial. Joshua is John Lee, the mormon officer who conducted the massacre and would later on face judgement for it and eventually be executed for the crime. What we see, despite his name, the Burned Man is ultimately a different character in that he represents John's children, who in disgrace took the purpose of reclaiming their family honor by serving the church and the american government where possible, repairing what damage they could, trying to erase their father's stain. And Daniel represents a very specific modern church leader, Elder Henry B. Eyring, who along with church President Gordon B Hinkley, conducted a ceremony at the burial site of the victims with the descendants of the survivors present. They apologized and begged for forgiveness. Eyring said in his speech:
"We express profound regret for the massacre carried out in this valley 150 years ago today, and for the undue and untold suffering experienced by the victims then and by their relatives to the present time," Elder Eyring said.
"A separate expression of regret is owed the Paiute people who have unjustly borne for too long the principal blame for what occurred during the massacre," he said. "Although the extent of their involve- ment is disputed, it is believed they would not have participated without the direction and stimulus provided by local church leaders and members."
Lonesome Road is about tackling your demons, doing what is necessary, and accepting responsibility for your actions. When the time for judgement is called, you will answer for your crimes, that much is garunteed, so you might as well settle your soul and do the right thing as often as you can. Forgive your enemies, and beg for their's. And protect the innocent if they won't.
Huh... my grandpa is named John Lee... I now understand why he prefers to go by his nickname.
I had no idea about any of this and I just wanted to say, this was beautifully put. Thank you for the interesting interpretation.
Its truly wonderful to enjoy a game for this long and still learn to love it deeper. Much appreciated for the history lesson.
Hauns mill and Nauvoo taught the church what happens when they put their fate to chance.
Profound regret isn't exactly an apology or even close to making amends for the actions taken. Expressing profound regret doesn't show that you accept your responsibility to your actions. It says that you're sorry that you feel this way not I'm sorry that I did this.
The ambient sounds fit so good with Joshua Graham
That lost point is such a fucking line “waging war against good people is bad for the soul”
One of my favorite side characters in a game
“Courage is fear that has said its (final) prayers.” - Karl Barth
“He who kneels before God, can stand before anyone.” - Unknown
Why killing me is a bad idea? Well, you need salvation
Strictly speaking, he said that killing *Daniel* is a bad idea. I don't think he considers himself to be in the category of "good people".
Joshua is easily top 3 best characters of New Vegas. His incredible lore, matched with his dialogue and mannerisms make him undeniably intriguing. Truly a genius level character that was performed magnificently by a fantastic voice actor, Keith Szarabajka. Fallout New Vegas is aging like a fine wine thanks to all the unbelievably intelligent minds that went into it.
Decades from now, people will still be playing New Vegas. Mark my words.
Imagine seeing Joshua Graham in the Fallout TV series...
Joshua was the ultimate hardass with a good heart
"Daniel will send you to hell. If he doesnt, I will. If I can't, God will."
This man’s voice could talk someone’s finger away from the nuclear launch button.
I have mighty need of Fallout Colorado to have Joshua Graham return or referenced. Plus Colorado has a few radiation related stories that could fit the lore of fallout well, like the Plutonium Rocky Flats Plants fire or the Popcorn Lung case that happened in 2012.
That's a good idea! I'm definitely in the camp of wanting Bethesda and Obsidian to both work on new separate titles. So much good stuff we potentially will never get to see.
"...luckily for you two, i agree with the last point."
This whole dlc is a fever dream….and having only 1 merchant to sell to with less then 10k is evil…..
"Make the first shot count, you won't get a second."
*BANG*
"You.... you SHOT ME! Son of a... I was monologuing here"
Immediately pulls out a nuke. 😂
Considering you're in a small cave during this convo that's gonna kill you too lol
@@KiiBon NOT WHEN GODMODE IS ON **RAPIDLY SPAMS FIRE BUTTON**
After he said make the first shot count I was like ok (brings out fat man)
“Demons run when a good man goes to war” comes to mind to that last one
THANK YOU for putting in-game music in the background of this short and not trash!
My playthrough: "You better..."
*Head explodes from a powerfist*
Me: "Hail Caesar"
Retribution?
A fair kill
I've never heard these voicelines, Ive never thought about trying to attack him or Dan
I've never heard any lines from any of them aside from online. Only time I played this DLC, some dude ran up to me menacingly so I shot him. Then everyone wanted a piece so I shot them too. Daniel aggroed as soon as I saw him, so he got it too lol by the end of the dlc, I was done in around 30 minutes, didn't talk to a soul, got some map(no clue why) and I was on my way back to new Vegas lol
You hear him say that when you first meet him. There is a dialogue option that basically says what if I just attack you and leave. He then tells you this as a warning.
@@alexkimmel386yeah replay it and don't shoot the guy that runs towards you.
@@alexkimmel386 that's how i play every fallout, free xp from npcs, just like that, boom, finger snap. And they got free on them too, just go in and take everyhing they have.
Joshua means guardian for a reason. You cannot protect people against threats you do not understand.
And unfortunately, to fully understand things sometimes... you have to have done them yourself.
The first time I played the dlc I accidentally shot Follows-chalk because I thought he was another White Leg.
Meaning the entire dlc just became "find a map, kill everything and get out".
Having done all that makes his threats seem a lot less intimidating the second time I played it 😅
My anti material rifle after realizing his face is material
My stealth build + fully upgraded anti material rifle one shoted rawr, I love Joshua but omg he was the one who didn't get a FIRST shot... Then loaded and beated the dlc the way it's supposed to be
Ultimately all threats sound empty and funny when you can become a literal supersoldier. Great for narrative tho
problem is his 3rd curse will happen to you and God will smite you in the end
Daniel is the only one defending the Sorrows against the White Legs, so he knows how to handle a gun.
Imagine if the programmed your gun to jam anytime you tried to shoot Joshua as "divine penance" 😂
*gun jams and you get quickdrawed*
I think he is honestly the best fallout character. He IS the threatening presence.
"no thanks" Joshua when you ask to see his inventory. One of my fav lines lmfao
He is the protaginist in this valley
I love how every dlc pretty much gives you the armour of every influential character in the dlc but everyone’s couriers are just so badass nobody wears the given outfits, cause we got better
My courier is always so overpowered that whenever I do a kill everything run his threats Ring hollow.
his final reason accounts for that. He's basically telling the courier (from experience) that he will regret his actions for the rest of his life.
@@nkoehler337 The part of the courier's brain that held his regrets got blown out
@@TownBiness97 Regardless of the outcome, Joshua believes that the courier will face their judgement. In this life or the next.
@@wastrelperv Well sure, but Joshua Graham doesn't know he's literally just 1s and 0s and I don't think God judges 1s and 0s
@@wastrelperv And Joshua Graham should be one to talk. He committed atrocities with the Legion. His only judgement came because he failed at being a legion general
That last line sounds so important. Like it could tie into something next.
But afaik its just a cool line. He talks it up to be secretly important. And then it just isn't.
He basically just tells you don't be a bad person and keep your karma good.
its because he had a religious conversion after surviving the whole fire canyon thing and now regrets what he did when he was caesar's legate
Third line is probably something of a personal experience to Joshua himself. He had waged war against good people in the past, and it was bad for his soul. It's in a way him telling you to not follow in his previous footsteps.
There's no way....comprehension really is at an all time low.
I hope they find a way to write Joshua into the show.
Gotta give props to Keith Szarabajka for his most excellent delivery of these very well written lines too.
My evil playthrough i think i said something in my head along the lines "i slaughtered your caesar and his legates,mowed down all the fiends,destroyed Mr.House ambition and his goals slaughtered everyone and everything to get here when i send u to your god ask him why...why did he create someone like me to test your faith" then i shot him and he whooped my ass
The end got me.
Clearly didnt make the first shot count
@@Pindeckoo1 I didn't think he would be so damn strong
You heard his promise, what did you think would happen?
@@Pindeckoo1 clearly god was willing
“you will not leave this valley”
*me walking with a modded nuke* 😎