You’re a lot more insightful than people I know in the top CS schools around me. I’m an engineer. There is no such thing as general intelligence, and you’ve proved with your ability to critically assess how stupid a cut and dry IQ test is, you’re smart as hell. And that matters a lot more than the number.
Well, I think IQ means something substantial but shouldn't be equivocated to general intelligence, even though that is what it was intended to represent. Its best to think of IQ as the ability to reason though complex systems.
No, general intelligence is definitely real. It’s basically just pattern recognition ability. It’s very difficult to teach low-iq folks complex concepts. If IQ is low enough, it can become very difficult to teach just about anything. IQ is basically just how easy is it to teach the person once you’ve found the best approach that works for them.
there is DEFINITELY such thing as general intelligence. If you think IQ isnt a real metric for intelligence just because of this young man. You dont know what IQ is.
agreed. I think he has some other learning disability that is interfering. 70 is WAY too low for this guy. I'd say he is at least in the upper 80s, probably higher.
I think it's an incredibly dangerous thing for a society to question the value of people with low IQ. This implies the idea that a person with higher intelligence is worth more than a person with lower intelligence. Why is this so dangerous? If your value as a person depends on possessing a trait which you have no control over (such as higher intelligence), this means that no human has intrinsic value. When you accept the idea that a human must justify the value of their life by demonstrating traits that are deemed as favorable, you can also justify any evil against them. Before you massacre or mistreat masses of people, you must first dehumanize them.
If there are no low IQ people who is going to do the cleaning, building, paving or gardening? People with high IQ often think too complicated about simple things which makes them worse at jobs that require practical skills. Low IQ means nothing. They have all the skills that high IQ people lack. My IQ is 119 so I am above average, but I totally respect low IQ people. I see them do things that I can't do. They are often more sociable. Low IQ people have no problem to admit they don't know and have no problem asking for help while high IQ people tend to be arrogant and know-it-all's.
The problem is what percentage of population have low IQ. Just look around the world and see what kind of socities groups with average IQ below 80 creates. IQ is highly heritable , so low IQ people have low IQ children and our general intelligence has been going down.
Bruv, we already question the value of things that we have no control over. Ugly people are discriminated against, Short, flat, wide, thin... I could go on forever. Nothing will ever happen, you'll just simply be forgotten.
For someone with "low IQ" you sure do a lot of thinking and research. More power to you! Dive deep into something you enjoy like building, crafting, art, dare I say gaming.
This is because IQ is more like height than people realize. A tall person has a higher chance of entering the nba than a short person. But it doesn’t actually mean that a short person CANT be an elite basketball player baller. They just usually aren’t. And it would be a lot more work. A low IQ person CAN learn as much as any body else. It would just take longer. Require more effort, commitment, and discipline. Low IQ doesn’t mean ‘irreconcilably dumb’
@@xerotolerantactually at about IQ of 80, you’re pretty much not able to learn or retain much meaningful knowledge. While I wish what you said were true, it’s not. There is just absolutely no way someone with a 70 IQ can ever be as curious, knowledgable or analytical as someone with a 140 IQ. Your basketball analogy doesn’t scale.. it’s like an adult playing against a 2 year old. The person in this video absolutely cannot have an IQ of 70 by the way, it’s wrong, so using him as an example is not going to be an accurate depiction of someone who really has that limited ability. The thing is, it’s extremely rare because of the bell curve. Fortunately and unfortunately, most people are just average, and that is okay.
So true. It's also good and useful, that as a certified low IQ person, you are coming on RUclips and honestly discussing your life experience. Not much of that on RUclips from that niche. Keep up the good work 👍 Spread awareness
The way this fellow details his thinking process and reasoning, would be impressive in anybody. I think he should focus on understanding his learning style, work with a mentor (to help him handle his money, marshall his resources, and grow his skills base), and prepare for a higher-paying, skills-focused job in a place that will appreciate him. The right kind of mentor can make that happen.
I dont know how the RUclips algorithm got me to you, but JFC you’re spitting gold after gold. Although i’m pretty average myself, my grandfather shared some wisdom he got from his grandfather. It roughly translates to “you can be dumb, but you HAVE to be kind, they forgive the dumbness, but they remember the kindness” in English. My granddad recently passed away during covid, but this memory still surfaces each time I meet a kind person. Thank you for reminding me again, Mark.
I'm not an expert, but a bit of a psychometrics hobbyist. It seems your verbal reasoning is well above 70, and I think you're very fortunate in that. Not everyone can consider and weigh abstracts like you are able to in this video. Do you happen to know what your sub-scores were? IQ tests are often broken down into verbal reasoning, working memory, etc. which combine into an "FSIQ" or full-scale intelligence quotient. Something interesting to add/think about regarding low IQ jobs and high IQ jobs... for a long time people thought it was the people flipping burgers who were going to be replaced by machines. It turns out we're seeing that more intellectual jobs-- writers, financial managers, lawyers- are the ones being threatened by language model AI. Software to replace intellectual labor is cheap to replicate. Durable capital goods like robotics to replace manual labor is not. Hopefully this trend will cause some to reevaluate this trend of valuing people based on intelligence alone. But I worry that the hyper-egalitarianism in the west which confuses ability for value, and insists that all are equally capable in order to justify applying equal value, will continue. And many people will fall through the cracks, ignored as inconvenient counterevidence to the world view of many.
There is a spectrum between practical and theoretical and IQ tests measure only one end of that spectrum. If you had a test that measured practical skills you'd see high IQ's would score low compared to low IQ's. High IQ's tend to think too complicated about simple things. For example what is the most efficient way to flip a burger? They will think about it for hours but never flip the burger.
AI is such and interesting and complicated issue when it comes to this! People definitely should make better note that it is language that the AI is currently replicating well. If we think historically, most jobs that have been saved for those with high intellect involve language. Business, law, coding all involve language. Communication, being able to comprehend large amounts of texts in form of laws/textbooks or even learning a coding language. As a non-american law student chatgpt is definitely not an option right now in our legal system. It clearly has been trained mostly on data regarding common law systems, not civil law. I have tried asking it question about finnish law and especially the legal system. It spouts out very vague things that combine what it has learned from data regarding common law systems and tries to apply to a civil law one, while translating bits and pieces of our law into it’s answer in a context that doesn’t make sense in our legal system. 😂
His low IQ score is HIGHLY suspicious. Also, his claims of rapidly improving IQ. He is trolling us, or there is something else going on (misreporting etc). He says he worked at McDonalds, and due to him being "low IQ" he took his job seeiously and outpreformed others. OK, makes sense, but then he says he was fired because of his low iq in another video. He says the job was challenging - perhaps this is true, but even if so, was it because of low IQ? It is very strange that from his videos you would guess he is above normal intelligence, but claims to have low iq.
There is this saying: Intelligence is what an IQ test measures. And intelligence is center-focussed but with blurred outlines. Which leads to the question: Is a Savant intelligent? Are indigenous people intelligent who may only understand basic maths but can survive on their own in the jungle while a professor with a PhD in math can't?
I watched your videos about a year ago and it really opened my eyes. I felt from my circumstances that I was trapped and things were pointless but your positive outlook and humility really impacted me.
I've often thought that the jobs done by those considered 'lower IQ' such as dustman, sewer worker, labourer, care worker and many more tend to be necessary for society to function and show an obvious positive result at the end of each workday/shift. So-called 'professional' roles may be socially useful (doctor, engineer, etc) but many are well-paid administration roles of limited worth - especially in the state sector. Even the people doing such well-paid "BS jobs" I know personally admit they don't see any value in their role and even that they could be sacked without much impact on the workplace. Better the man who works with his hands than the office drone who doesn't know what he's even doing.
Amusingly, there's a Soviet-era science fiction novel called _Andromeda Nebula,_ in which everyone is basically an "Alpha." The difference between these Alphas and those of _Brave New World_ is that in _Andromeda Nebula,_ they are conditioned from the start to appreciate all kinds of work: from the routine and physical to the intellectually and emotionally stimulating. This is, of course, in line with the communist ideal of the time. The worker is viewed as the most noble of people - not merely as an abstractly defined class, but literally as people who work. Working a job - any job - is the highest ideal and these people undergo mandatory job changes every few years. It's an extremely utopian novel, without the dark side that something like _Brave New World_ has.
I am happy to see you reading "Brave New World". Even happier you found the honest truth. Civilization would not exist if we were all the same. Everyone has a purpose. You are in some ways, more fortunate than folks on the high IQ side. There is a lot of mental illness that comes with a high IQ. No matter what your IQ, life is a challenge. It is great you are challenging yourself to improve by reading. Many people with higher IQs haven't read "Brave New World". Try to learn a new word everyday. Use that word and suddenly you will be smarter. I am very grateful for your video. I have always wondered how someone with a low IQ functions in this modern world. It seems you do just fine in some areas. I have seen comments that folks think you have a higher IQ than 70. I might agree but it is very hard to know what, and how much, people think. From what I know, humans model everything around us. The higher the IQ, the more detail there is. Seeing all the details is not great all the time. The world you see is the same as the one I see. It is often more important to be a good person in the world. Folks that are troubled by people that are not as fast, are unhappy with themselves first. I wish you the best of luck🍀
Brother, you do not need to validate yourself for all us strangers. You're perfectly fine the way you are and you are more intelligent than 99% of people I've met in life. IQ tests do not define any of us we define who we are.
I have a high IQ of 126 but have learning disability Dyspraxia which affects my performance. The key thing is that maybe your iq is not as low as you think. You could have an unmasked learning disability. You certainly have ability work camera, read books , etc.
I'm of above average intelligence. Not genius level, but definitely above average. I hope I am not arrogant about my IQ. To me it is just a useful skill to have, not part of my identity. I have worked in jobs that are stimulating to me, jobs that are to hard for me and jobs that are not stimulating at all to me. I think all of them have something great to them. For example I miss the jobs where I can just let my hands do the work and my brain is either floating somewhere else or I listen to some podcast learning stuff. Also they tend to be more physically demanding, which is good for my fitness. I have respect for all the manual workers and I hope their jobs never run out. I think a low skill job done well is just as valuable as a high skill job done well.
I find it hard to believe that you have an IQ of 70. You're too well spoken for that to be the case. I don't think someone with an IQ of 70 would be able to reason the way that you do here. Was this some kind of online test or did you actually go to see a psychologist? I've actually found that many "Alphas" in society actually have a great respect for the work that laborers do. This is especially true when they themselves had to do hard labor before they moved on to other careers. I think it's a tragedy nowadays that there are so many professionals that go straight from high school to college, and then directly into the white-collar workforce. Back in the day, I think it was more common for people to work factory jobs at a young age, so more people understood what it meant to spend a life doing hard labor in service of others. I've watched a few of your videos and I have enormous respect for your commitment to becoming a productive member of society. I hope that you find work that you enjoy and can become skilled at.
The correlation between IQ and jobs is often a myth, sure it determines a lot but many times smart people work lower end jobs simply because of other factors in their lives, and not so smart people have seemingly "successful" jobs through nepotism, connections, or just knowing how to play the social game. My IQ is 122 (not amazing but high) and I dropped out of high school, just finished my GED at 23, and have been working entry level jobs simply because of bad choices, being on the spectrum doesn't help either. Social intelligence is where i'm lacking and unfortunately that plays as big a role as mental intelligence in society whether people want to admit it or not. Especially with jobs/ education. Being relatable and likable is more important for success than just being smart imo.
@@Trahzy If you had a higher iq you would not still be working entry level jobs at 23 unless you were an alcoholic or had severe depression. Because having a higher iq you would recognise poor choices and implement changes in your life to making better decisions and moves. I always think people who label themselves high iq really do rarely have a high iq but are just narcissistic and have entitled attitudes.
@@henrycooper4213 Did you not see where I mentioned I was on the spectrum? Diagnosed at 5 years old, depression since I was 15, and previous substance abuse problems. Sorry I forgot to mention everything about my life. I'm well aware of my bad choices, but if you knew the first thing about autism you'd know exactly where i'm coming from in my comment and how detrimental it can be for anybody low or high IQ as far as progression in life. If you did catch where I mentioned being on the spectrum, I suggest you educate yourself on the subject as you clearly know nothing about it. Lastly, I said I was finishing my GED which i'd say is making a better move after a bad choice. I can't tell if you took offense from my comment or just can't read well.
Although I completely disagree with Mark's understanding of IQ and his intelligence and how the two are related, I find these videos kind of fascinating. I'd just say Mark, are you happy? I feel like thats more important. Either way, i'm glad to hear your perspective.
Out of curiosity, what do you disagree with? His main point is that low IQ individuals are needed in society to fill in less glamorous roles that aren't intellectually stimulating, which is a completely valid point
You need to think more deeply. Life is not about happiness life is about fulfilment which is not the same as happiness. Happiness is a make believe fairy land, you need to understand quickly in life there will be times you are happy and times you are sad. But you need to ensure that overall you are content with your purpose in life and overall are achieving your purpose in which you self define and work to include in your daily life. This will ultimately lead to more happy days but achieving happiness should not be a goal but a side effect of living by your principles and being content with what life has given you good or bad.
Society as it is built right now is designed to accommodate low IQ individuals. I think that if everyone had a high IQ then we could restructure society to still be able to work properly. Very smart people only want more intellectually challenging jobs because in other jobs they can see that they are smarter than their coworkers and their managers. That said, I still agree that we should not shame people because they cannot learn as fast as others. We need to accept our differences in intellectual ability and try to build a world where everyone has a place.
It's not accommodating enough for many low IQ people without a carer they wouldn't be able to function so many of things in life today require intelligence
I like this comment. But I think it might partly be pirsinalty. Some people are more excepting of routines even if there smart. Yeah I definitely don't agree with shaming people for things that are not there fault.
Absolute gibberish. Most smart people want to not have a job in the modern sense of the world but be free to pursue their hobbies and aspects of life they enjoy. They don’t go into jobs working for other people out of choice, as for a start high iq people don’t like being told what to do by potentially intellectually inferior superiors.
I've been recommended videos both by you and another man who supposedly has a very high iq. There's something wonderful in seeing people who may be vastly different in one dimension share so much in many others.
You make a great point here. And, I just want to say you are a lot more intelligent than you give yourself credit for. Your ability to clearly explain your ideas is impressive.
really good video and very informative! Ive never been super smart and i never really did well in class when it came to maths and stuff and my brain seem to often have a short limit on the mental capacity and stuff. I dont know if my IQ is low or if long term mental stress has messed with my brain, but watching these videos gives light to an area of society that very rarely gets talked about. And that some people such as the occasional teacher (that are supposed to help teach ppl stuff) make ppl maybe not want to continue learning cus they put students down and make them feel dumb is just sad
I did not know that a youtube channel about not being smart could be so interesting. It is actually really enlightening to get insight in your life. Thanks you for sharing and congratulations to getting an audience not only including people that struggle with what you do. Do you have people around you helping you with life advice in general or how is that part in your life looking?
the assumption is if everyone was highly intelligent there would be no one working low level service jobs but it's still not true, the low level service jobs just might as well have more complex systems and duties, if low level services jobs are needed the world would adapt in this way naturally given if everyone is intelligent. if intelligence was scatted per average then higher level jobs would just adapt to even more complex duties
But our attitudes would also adapt. Now 70 is considered low IQ and 120 is considered high IQ. If 140 was average then 120 would be considered low and people will insult you for not being able to calculate the square root of pi.
I believe there's different kinds of intelligent. You sure talk well and have good points. Are you sure you're not just on the Spectrum, dyslexia maybe?
You are a very deep thinker. That was a very interesting video. I personally think that people who dislike low IQ people just have their own internal complex or some other problems with themselves. And the teachers might have just thought that they failed at their job if they couln't teach you something and they might have directed their anger at you. That is unfair of course.
Weird most people I know in science and arts that I would suspect to be high IQ never cared nor talked about IQ their entire lives... but it seems some fetish topic for some people.
As a comment i would say that a lot of necessary work to keep a society going is not appreciated enough for pay rates to reflect that society would collapse without such work. they are normally jobs where you have to perform tasks in 3 dimensions. A cleaner, grease monkey, plumber, orchard worker are as important as a doctor. Simplify things down to environment, and whole foods are medicine. It's the trouble people get themselves into more often than not that lead to specialist high wage elites Not only but people do put on airs.
i'm not sure if this channel is a parody or something. Your points are interesting and well thought out. You're clearly smarter than you either think or claim. An IQ of 70 is comparitively lower than the smartest dog breeds would achieve. I have an IQ result above 120 and I'd struggle to read clearly whilst thinking of points to talk about and speaking into a camera in the way you have here. So, just genuinely interested if this is all legit content. Or if you're just trying to reach an audience, even if it's with good intent to help? If you genuinely think you're low IQ, I'd suggest retesting, or finding other ways to gauge your intelligence because you're definitely not slow and IQ tests are known to be flawed in general.
I agree with your point but I don't agree about the job distinction. Low IQ people have a right to exist and thrive, but that's not contingent on the idea that they're suited to work menial jobs and high IQ people aren't As someone that generally does pretty well on these kinds of tests, I personally like menial jobs because they give me the headspace to reflect and daydream. "High IQ" jobs can be soul crushing if you realize you're exhausting your brainpower on some corporate pet project. "Low IQ" jobs are used as an excuse to exploit and justify lower wages for vulnerable people. It is why, at least in America, people with disabilities can legally be paid less than minimum wage. Brave New World is a criticism of this distinction, and a breakdown of our capitalist, class-based society and what it would look like if taken to its logical conclusion.
I've been watching a few of your videos and I've noticed you care a lot about your IQ level. Yes, it can be important in some ways but what's more important is your happiness, so I'd say you'd be better focusing more of your time on that. Try finding a hobby you enjoy and you can even make videos about it so you can share your passion with us. At the end of the day happiness is way more important than intelligence so don't get too wrapped up on that and try to spend more time doing things that make you laugh and smile instead 🙂
I agree 100%. I am 52 and can attest to that fact. I think the 60 on up? IQ perhaps have so much self-awareness that it can be quite trying in life. I very much respect his attitude.
If you can learn a language from nothing, you can do pretty much do anything. You may need to spend more time learning stuff, but nothing is impossible.
I don't think this lad is "low IQ" I think he's just Irish and wasn't taught correctly in school. I hope he gets a legitimate IQ/Aptitude test done as his perseverance leads me to believe he would be a good Woodsman/Demolitionist in the trades. Maybe even a welder with a little work
I am so grateful youtube guided me to you. I have an IQ of 140 and as a child the language used towards me and others regarding this was ultimately derogatory and unhelpful. I had to do a lot of unlearning during my late teens and early 20s that everyone has intrinsic value and I am not worthy of a) more money, b) safety and security, c) better health outcomes just because I can fulfil cognitive tasks better than someone else. Everyone is deserving of respect for their role and intrinsic value in society. Even reframing it as "different kinds of intelligence" has limited usefulness in promoting kindness, understanding, and a cohestive society. Being a human being should not be a competitive sport or have some sort of numbered power ranking against the worthiness of all other people. Especially for people with disabilities and elderly people with cognitive decline - society should unconditionally provide supports for people to live a happy and fruitful lives.
As a high IQ person, I can tell you that by having this channel online - without any privacy guardrails - you are putting yourself at a huge disadvantage (regardless of how much "pity" or "encouragement" you get from your audience).
If he truly has an IQ of 70 he would be considered disabled and would be entitled to legal protection due to his disability. Him being transparent about it can be even better, because if a potential employer finds out information about his disability like this and due to prejudice doesn’t hire him just based on information about his disability that they shouldn’t have…. Well I think that have potential grounds for legal action, of course depending on the country. In my country it is illegal for hiring employers to google people they are interviewing without the permission of the person they are interviewing. Basically collecting information about a potential employee without consent is illegal, this includes googling them.
@@Sib666Yeah, if your plan is to live as a parasite, threatening employers with legal action because of your disability is the way to go. And good luck proving in court that they did not hire you because of that and not because you're an entitled b*tch (fortunately it doesn't count as disability yet).
Low I.Q. people need jobs and those jobs should pay enough to live comfortably. There's always something a healthy person can do that makes money. Our richest businesses thrive on this kind of worker and they are valuable.
if you have aspergers, i think an iq test wont give you a correct iq score dueto thedifficult sometimes to focus. you act way smarter than other ”70” iq people. im a high functioning adhd person, but even i have my struggles despite an iq of 138…. iq is also one way of meassuring things a guy came up with
I find it hard to believe that this person is unintelligent. He is articulate, reads literature, and thinks about society on an abstract level. He probably has some disability in one or a few cognitive areas of functioning which causes his low IQ score, while his verbal reasoning is obviously well above average. Just my conjecture!
I'm a high school science teacher, and I understand that some students are just not adept at understanding / learning concepts. They fall into 3 camps: those who are enthusiastic and try their hardest, those who give up and sit quietly while they wait for the class to end, and those who alleviate their boredom by being an utter nuisance to me and their classmates. If you're not very bright, just trying your hardest is all anyone can ask, and it's worthy of as much respect as an A grade. Also, staying out of the way is acceptable. But those who waste their own time, and everyone else's, can go to hell; It's those kids that give low IQ people a bad name. Though, to be fair, some intelligent kids do that too (which is even worse because they're squandering a genetic gift).
@@davidcarter8269 I agree, the parents are in large part to blame. But that, too, is down to IQ in most cases. IQ correlates strongly with things like marriage stability and income, which greatly affect the environment at home.
@@helifalic you are dangerously over attributing everything to IQ. Human behaviour is extremely complex, and cannot be simplified down to IQ as the biggest variable. Many psychologists today posit that there are roughly 9 facets of intelligence. IQ only measures 3. And even if IQ measured all 9 facets of intelligence, that still wouldn’t even come close to measuring someone’s personality. Further, let’s assume that what you are saying is true, which I doubt, but for the sake of argument let’s assume that IQ is the biggest predictor of income and marriage stability, and that therefore a child’s upbringing is the sum of their parents IQ predominantly. Under this assumption, we still arrive at other societal issues being the problem as IQ measures 2 things: fluid intelligence and crystallized intelligence. The G-factor resides in fluid intelligence. Whereas crystallized intelligence completely relies on access to education and information. So even then, I’d argue that IQ is less important for measuring a families income and stability, but rather education is a much bigger factor. In my life, I’ve run into all sorts of people both dumb and smart. What I’ve noticed is that there are a lot of smart people that come from poor places, and a lot of dumb people come from more affluent environments. We cannot view human behaviour purely from the lens of IQ - this is very dangerous. IQ, with all its flaws, is only a small aspect of what makes a person a person. I used to share this view of yours, that IQ could be attributed to a large chunk of human behaviour, but in reality it can't.
@@davidcarter8269 Well articulated. However, I think you're overestimating the importance of education. Education only correlates with income because most of the highest paying jobs require difficult degrees - but you can't attain those degrees without fluid intelligence first. I've taught in quite a few schools at this point, from low SES to high SES, and there are shocking differences in overall student behaviour and general ability. It's naive to assume that those kids develop academic ability based on affluence. If daddy is rich, it doesn't help Jimmy understand abstract concepts. Now, here is your fundamental misunderstanding with my point: I didn't claim that IQ determines even a large chunk of human behaviour. I was talking about student behaviours in the context of science in high school. Misbehaviour in this case arises predominantly from a lack of interest, which I'm asserting typically arises from a lack of ability. If you can't keep up, you'll get bored. If you're bored, you're more likely to act up. As it is measured, IQ is an incredibly powerful predictor of many life outcomes including affluence, incarceration and marriage success regardless of the myriad forms of intelligence proclaimed to exist outside of it. It's not dangerous to simply acknowledge an empirical fact.
"I was talking about student behaviours in the context of science in high school. Misbehaviour in this case arises predominantly from a lack of interest, which I'm asserting typically arises from a lack of ability." This is absolutely an unfounded assertion. I am not misunderstanding your point, I am just arguing that lack of ability is a small factor and that there are many other factors that supersede IQ, that determine a students interest in high school science. I will proceed to list them. 1. Cultural significance of education. Different cultures and backgrounds put a certain level of emphasis on education. This is completely unrelated to intelligence, this is a completely cultural matter. As such, you'll notice Chinese students or Indian students that work extremely hard and are extremely interested in math and science. This is not because Indians and Chinese have greater ability than everyone else, this is because they come from a culture of studying extremely hard in school. 2. Money. Money plays a big role in your access to support. I know you like to argue that IQ is the predictor of money, but for the sake of a hypothetical let's assume we have Bob and Joe. Bob has an IQ of 100, so does Joe. But Joe and Bob come from different socioeconomic backgrounds. And as such, Joe being the far richer of the two is much more inclined to enjoy and appreciate education because every time Joe struggled with a concept his dad could afford to take time off work and help him, or even buy him a tutor. Bob on the other hand, even though his IQ is completely equal to Joe, Bobs dad works 3 minimum wage jobs and could never afford to take time off work to help Bob when he was struggling with a concept. As a result, despite Bob and Joe having equal IQ, Bob is extremely frustrated and disinterested in high school science because he doesn't have a support system to help him learn. 3. Friends. At a young age, what a child's friends do greatly influence their path in life. Many students, if involved with a studious group of friends, will also be studious and follow. However, if one finds themselves gravitating towards a group of friends that are disinterested in education, despite the individuals IQ, they will also have a proclivity to copy what their friends are doing. 4. Guidance. Children need guidance above everything else. A 110 IQ child with guidance can far exceed the capabilities of a 150 IQ child who never had support systems or guidance. 5. To conclude, I have listed 4 factors that supersede intelligence that have a great impact on a child's proclivity to education. I maintain that it is a dangerous argument to make that IQ is an indicator of children's engagement with high school science. Further, you may now make the counterargument: but some of the factors you listed are results of socioeconomic standing, which is predicted by IQ! This would be such a true point if our society wasn't designed to make rich people richer and poor people poorer. Because of the structure of our society, being poor traps you in a cycle of being poor - this is evidenced mathematically, I have studied it in depth as a mathematician. A famous example for you to look at is Vilfredo Pareto's distribution that showed the longer a capitalist society exists, the richer the rich will get and the harder it will be for the poor to escape poverty. Thus, by the vary design of our society, it is so hard for poor people of any IQ to escape poverty. And it is so easy for rich people of any IQ to maintain that wealth. And with money, comes greater education, and with greater education comes greater understanding, and with greater understanding comes greater interest. Hence why IQ is such a good predictor of work success, because it's such a good predictor of education! Also, not to be an annoying mathematician, but we also can't completely put our faith in psychology models - inherently, they are so multivariable to a point they are almost redundant. And there is so much we still do not understand about human behaviour, one can only ask: how many unknown variables of human behaviour are we missing that stop us from making a complete picture?
People with average intelligence, 85-115 are the ones that do most jobs and keep infrastructure going, of course you need high IQ people to plan, invent and organize at the top. Low IQ is below 85 and there really isn't much jobs for those people in the west, mainly because these jobs have been automatized.
Who gave you the IQ test? There are some bogus ones online that aren't a true IQ test, ya know? And doesn't the school system where you live have special education classes? I think you have many talents which cannot be learned. They can be taught (like piano for instance) but only excelled in when you are gifted. I wish you all the best.
Don't you love when they compare themselves to you like your stupidity makes them smarter. Plus, we are in different environments for the most part when we interact, different problems. How many times have you had to settle down someone above you who makes an error that you didn't? We also have to constantly explain that dumb people are not easier to control. Ignorant people, ignorant people are easy to control. At 24, I had an IQ of 116 with serious defects from schizophrenia, which I'm obviously faking say hours of people. Fine. Do you need the number at the social security office? I'll help you out, pal? I had to go back into a group home due to them hunting me again. They tried to make me passive and apathetic. It's like, honey, do you think you're the only one in line? I'm not usually political, but thank you Reagan. Oh yes, as far as spelling goes, I was in yet another experiment. That has got to stop without permissions.
I have a strong suspicion that IQ tests aren't accurate tests of intelligence. At best maybe they can detect a deficit or learning disability, but you really don't seem all that dumb to me at all.
Everybody has a place. We can't all be geniuses. And geniuses also come with their own set of problems - lack of social skills, usually. I'm categorized as Superior and I've witnessed how people categorized as Gifted operate also - they're far better than me with their cognitive skills, LOL. But my social life is better than theirs. And Average people have far better social lives than me. 😂 Everybody has a role to play in society. Just make the most of what you have.
You have made a lot of good points here, but I must ask what is the best course of action when automation and outsourcing to unskilled immigrants overtakes 'Low IQ jobs'?
I think jobs are a means to survive. If jobs are automated, either unskilled workers are maintained with social safety nets, or they're forced to survive in other ways. Scavenging, hunting, fishing, and farming for subsistence are ways to survive. Though it will be ironic if we get so technologically advanced that people are made to go back to more primitive living conditions.
I think it is mostly low status jobs, many high education jobs are seen as high status but can be menial in daily routine. People just need status in life, simple as that.
@@solonyetskito think about it, we work these hitech, complex things coz big entities like states and giant countries exist. Pretty much only reason. People used to live in same land areas doing what you describe, without countries. Still cannot decide which is better way to survive in longrun for humanity (next 10 000 years).
Your math teacher was right, you are intelligent but did not care to learn. Did you deliberately fluke your IQ test at that age to have a convenient excuse? And now being older you changed your priorities and suddenly your IQ, wich was never really low in the first place, suddenly "improves" as you discover that in fact you are not disabled in that way at all.
maybe you should get tested again. I don't think your IQ is really 70. And if you measure that low it could mean that you have some other learning disability which is interfering with your ability to take the test. There are many different types of IQ tests, some even measure it by having you stare at a dot on a wall and they measure brain activity. you might find your IQ is actually much higher than a paper test (or some other clinical test). It isn't fair for you to be labeled with such a low score if other certified tests indicate otherwise.
I don't think you have an IQ of 70 and if the test said you did then it was not done correctly. It could just be learning disabilities that were not accounted for in the test. Also, IQ is not something that is fixed. People can improve their IQ 1-5 points per year of extra education.
Hey Mark, I'm really curious about your life at this point. Like how old are you and how you mostly spend your days nowadays. also are you married or not? do you socialise? can you tell me about that?
You’re a lot more insightful than people I know in the top CS schools around me. I’m an engineer. There is no such thing as general intelligence, and you’ve proved with your ability to critically assess how stupid a cut and dry IQ test is, you’re smart as hell. And that matters a lot more than the number.
Well, I think IQ means something substantial but shouldn't be equivocated to general intelligence, even though that is what it was intended to represent. Its best to think of IQ as the ability to reason though complex systems.
@@bbseal6174That’s exactly what it represents.
No, general intelligence is definitely real. It’s basically just pattern recognition ability. It’s very difficult to teach low-iq folks complex concepts. If IQ is low enough, it can become very difficult to teach just about anything. IQ is basically just how easy is it to teach the person once you’ve found the best approach that works for them.
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there is DEFINITELY such thing as general intelligence. If you think IQ isnt a real metric for intelligence just because of this young man. You dont know what IQ is.
You need to take that test again, friend.
agreed. I think he has some other learning disability that is interfering. 70 is WAY too low for this guy. I'd say he is at least in the upper 80s, probably higher.
Wow ; brave new world you’re reading it? Yeah take the IQ test again I don’t think you…
This!
I think it's an incredibly dangerous thing for a society to question the value of people with low IQ. This implies the idea that a person with higher intelligence is worth more than a person with lower intelligence.
Why is this so dangerous? If your value as a person depends on possessing a trait which you have no control over (such as higher intelligence), this means that no human has intrinsic value. When you accept the idea that a human must justify the value of their life by demonstrating traits that are deemed as favorable, you can also justify any evil against them. Before you massacre or mistreat masses of people, you must first dehumanize them.
I've always thought what is important is to treat people equally, even though it is clearly the case that we are not.
If there are no low IQ people who is going to do the cleaning, building, paving or gardening? People with high IQ often think too complicated about simple things which makes them worse at jobs that require practical skills. Low IQ means nothing. They have all the skills that high IQ people lack.
My IQ is 119 so I am above average, but I totally respect low IQ people. I see them do things that I can't do. They are often more sociable. Low IQ people have no problem to admit they don't know and have no problem asking for help while high IQ people tend to be arrogant and know-it-all's.
The problem is what percentage of population have low IQ. Just look around the world and see what kind of socities groups with average IQ below 80 creates. IQ is highly heritable , so low IQ people have low IQ children and our general intelligence has been going down.
Bruv, we already question the value of things that we have no control over. Ugly people are discriminated against, Short, flat, wide, thin... I could go on forever. Nothing will ever happen, you'll just simply be forgotten.
well all humans have intrinsic value. but we arent all going to be valued the same. why would we all be the same?
For someone with "low IQ" you sure do a lot of thinking and research. More power to you! Dive deep into something you enjoy like building, crafting, art, dare I say gaming.
This is because IQ is more like height than people realize. A tall person has a higher chance of entering the nba than a short person. But it doesn’t actually mean that a short person CANT be an elite basketball player baller. They just usually aren’t. And it would be a lot more work.
A low IQ person CAN learn as much as any body else. It would just take longer. Require more effort, commitment, and discipline.
Low IQ doesn’t mean ‘irreconcilably dumb’
@@xerotolerantactually at about IQ of 80, you’re pretty much not able to learn or retain much meaningful knowledge. While I wish what you said were true, it’s not. There is just absolutely no way someone with a 70 IQ can ever be as curious, knowledgable or analytical as someone with a 140 IQ. Your basketball analogy doesn’t scale.. it’s like an adult playing against a 2 year old. The person in this video absolutely cannot have an IQ of 70 by the way, it’s wrong, so using him as an example is not going to be an accurate depiction of someone who really has that limited ability. The thing is, it’s extremely rare because of the bell curve. Fortunately and unfortunately, most people are just average, and that is okay.
So true. It's also good and useful, that as a certified low IQ person, you are coming on RUclips and honestly discussing your life experience. Not much of that on RUclips from that niche. Keep up the good work 👍
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The way this fellow details his thinking process and reasoning, would be impressive in anybody. I think he should focus on understanding his learning style, work with a mentor (to help him handle his money, marshall his resources, and grow his skills base), and prepare for a higher-paying, skills-focused job in a place that will appreciate him. The right kind of mentor can make that happen.
Bang on...that's why everyone should be treated with respect...every job is important and so is every individual
I dont know how the RUclips algorithm got me to you, but JFC you’re spitting gold after gold.
Although i’m pretty average myself, my grandfather shared some wisdom he got from his grandfather.
It roughly translates to “you can be dumb, but you HAVE to be kind, they forgive the dumbness, but they remember the kindness” in English. My granddad recently passed away during covid, but this memory still surfaces each time I meet a kind person.
Thank you for reminding me again, Mark.
I'm not an expert, but a bit of a psychometrics hobbyist. It seems your verbal reasoning is well above 70, and I think you're very fortunate in that. Not everyone can consider and weigh abstracts like you are able to in this video.
Do you happen to know what your sub-scores were? IQ tests are often broken down into verbal reasoning, working memory, etc. which combine into an "FSIQ" or full-scale intelligence quotient.
Something interesting to add/think about regarding low IQ jobs and high IQ jobs... for a long time people thought it was the people flipping burgers who were going to be replaced by machines. It turns out we're seeing that more intellectual jobs-- writers, financial managers, lawyers- are the ones being threatened by language model AI. Software to replace intellectual labor is cheap to replicate. Durable capital goods like robotics to replace manual labor is not.
Hopefully this trend will cause some to reevaluate this trend of valuing people based on intelligence alone. But I worry that the hyper-egalitarianism in the west which confuses ability for value, and insists that all are equally capable in order to justify applying equal value, will continue. And many people will fall through the cracks, ignored as inconvenient counterevidence to the world view of many.
There is a spectrum between practical and theoretical and IQ tests measure only one end of that spectrum. If you had a test that measured practical skills you'd see high IQ's would score low compared to low IQ's. High IQ's tend to think too complicated about simple things. For example what is the most efficient way to flip a burger? They will think about it for hours but never flip the burger.
AI is such and interesting and complicated issue when it comes to this! People definitely should make better note that it is language that the AI is currently replicating well. If we think historically, most jobs that have been saved for those with high intellect involve language. Business, law, coding all involve language. Communication, being able to comprehend large amounts of texts in form of laws/textbooks or even learning a coding language. As a non-american law student chatgpt is definitely not an option right now in our legal system. It clearly has been trained mostly on data regarding common law systems, not civil law. I have tried asking it question about finnish law and especially the legal system. It spouts out very vague things that combine what it has learned from data regarding common law systems and tries to apply to a civil law one, while translating bits and pieces of our law into it’s answer in a context that doesn’t make sense in our legal system. 😂
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His low IQ score is HIGHLY suspicious. Also, his claims of rapidly improving IQ. He is trolling us, or there is something else going on (misreporting etc). He says he worked at McDonalds, and due to him being "low IQ" he took his job seeiously and outpreformed others. OK, makes sense, but then he says he was fired because of his low iq in another video. He says the job was challenging - perhaps this is true, but even if so, was it because of low IQ? It is very strange that from his videos you would guess he is above normal intelligence, but claims to have low iq.
There is this saying: Intelligence is what an IQ test measures. And intelligence is center-focussed but with blurred outlines. Which leads to the question: Is a Savant intelligent? Are indigenous people intelligent who may only understand basic maths but can survive on their own in the jungle while a professor with a PhD in math can't?
I watched your videos about a year ago and it really opened my eyes. I felt from my circumstances that I was trapped and things were pointless but your positive outlook and humility really impacted me.
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I've often thought that the jobs done by those considered 'lower IQ' such as dustman, sewer worker, labourer, care worker and many more tend to be necessary for society to function and show an obvious positive result at the end of each workday/shift. So-called 'professional' roles may be socially useful (doctor, engineer, etc) but many are well-paid administration roles of limited worth - especially in the state sector. Even the people doing such well-paid "BS jobs" I know personally admit they don't see any value in their role and even that they could be sacked without much impact on the workplace. Better the man who works with his hands than the office drone who doesn't know what he's even doing.
You're well spoken and you obviously think a lot on things. You deserve grace and I belive you can be successful.
Amusingly, there's a Soviet-era science fiction novel called _Andromeda Nebula,_ in which everyone is basically an "Alpha." The difference between these Alphas and those of _Brave New World_ is that in _Andromeda Nebula,_ they are conditioned from the start to appreciate all kinds of work: from the routine and physical to the intellectually and emotionally stimulating. This is, of course, in line with the communist ideal of the time. The worker is viewed as the most noble of people - not merely as an abstractly defined class, but literally as people who work. Working a job - any job - is the highest ideal and these people undergo mandatory job changes every few years. It's an extremely utopian novel, without the dark side that something like _Brave New World_ has.
I now live in Bulgaria - I love the communist statues and monuments as most of them celebrate the working person
He has the wisdom and character of a champion. I would rather have wisdom and self-control over intelligence..
Great videos. Interesting perspectives too. I’m happy I came across your videos 😊
I am happy to see you reading "Brave New World". Even happier you found the honest truth. Civilization would not exist if we were all the same. Everyone has a purpose. You are in some ways, more fortunate than folks on the high IQ side. There is a lot of mental illness that comes with a high IQ. No matter what your IQ, life is a challenge. It is great you are challenging yourself to improve by reading. Many people with higher IQs haven't read "Brave New World". Try to learn a new word everyday. Use that word and suddenly you will be smarter.
I am very grateful for your video. I have always wondered how someone with a low IQ functions in this modern world. It seems you do just fine in some areas. I have seen comments that folks think you have a higher IQ than 70. I might agree but it is very hard to know what, and how much, people think. From what I know, humans model everything around us. The higher the IQ, the more detail there is. Seeing all the details is not great all the time. The world you see is the same as the one I see. It is often more important to be a good person in the world. Folks that are troubled by people that are not as fast, are unhappy with themselves first.
I wish you the best of luck🍀
Also, you might like to read, "A Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy" by Douglas Adams
It is odd how mental illness is higher in the above average population than in the average or lower IQ levels. I need to look more into that.
You’re a blessing brother
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Brother, you do not need to validate yourself for all us strangers. You're perfectly fine the way you are and you are more intelligent than 99% of people I've met in life. IQ tests do not define any of us we define who we are.
I have a high IQ of 126 but have learning disability Dyspraxia which affects my performance. The key thing is that maybe your iq is not as low as you think. You could have an unmasked learning disability.
You certainly have ability work camera, read books , etc.
I'm of above average intelligence. Not genius level, but definitely above average. I hope I am not arrogant about my IQ. To me it is just a useful skill to have, not part of my identity. I have worked in jobs that are stimulating to me, jobs that are to hard for me and jobs that are not stimulating at all to me. I think all of them have something great to them. For example I miss the jobs where I can just let my hands do the work and my brain is either floating somewhere else or I listen to some podcast learning stuff. Also they tend to be more physically demanding, which is good for my fitness. I have respect for all the manual workers and I hope their jobs never run out. I think a low skill job done well is just as valuable as a high skill job done well.
I think that's a really good point
I'm a high IQ person and i enjoyed this rant and love your attitude about things.
I am very very very smart tooo!
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I find it hard to believe that you have an IQ of 70. You're too well spoken for that to be the case. I don't think someone with an IQ of 70 would be able to reason the way that you do here. Was this some kind of online test or did you actually go to see a psychologist?
I've actually found that many "Alphas" in society actually have a great respect for the work that laborers do. This is especially true when they themselves had to do hard labor before they moved on to other careers. I think it's a tragedy nowadays that there are so many professionals that go straight from high school to college, and then directly into the white-collar workforce. Back in the day, I think it was more common for people to work factory jobs at a young age, so more people understood what it meant to spend a life doing hard labor in service of others.
I've watched a few of your videos and I have enormous respect for your commitment to becoming a productive member of society. I hope that you find work that you enjoy and can become skilled at.
This. I would argue that he is even above average.
The correlation between IQ and jobs is often a myth, sure it determines a lot but many times smart people work lower end jobs simply because of other factors in their lives, and not so smart people have seemingly "successful" jobs through nepotism, connections, or just knowing how to play the social game. My IQ is 122 (not amazing but high) and I dropped out of high school, just finished my GED at 23, and have been working entry level jobs simply because of bad choices, being on the spectrum doesn't help either. Social intelligence is where i'm lacking and unfortunately that plays as big a role as mental intelligence in society whether people want to admit it or not. Especially with jobs/ education. Being relatable and likable is more important for success than just being smart imo.
Its probably higher - he has been reading 20 minutes a day for a couple of years to improve it.
@@Trahzy If you had a higher iq you would not still be working entry level jobs at 23 unless you were an alcoholic or had severe depression. Because having a higher iq you would recognise poor choices and implement changes in your life to making better decisions and moves. I always think people who label themselves high iq really do rarely have a high iq but are just narcissistic and have entitled attitudes.
@@henrycooper4213 Did you not see where I mentioned I was on the spectrum? Diagnosed at 5 years old, depression since I was 15, and previous substance abuse problems. Sorry I forgot to mention everything about my life. I'm well aware of my bad choices, but if you knew the first thing about autism you'd know exactly where i'm coming from in my comment and how detrimental it can be for anybody low or high IQ as far as progression in life. If you did catch where I mentioned being on the spectrum, I suggest you educate yourself on the subject as you clearly know nothing about it. Lastly, I said I was finishing my GED which i'd say is making a better move after a bad choice. I can't tell if you took offense from my comment or just can't read well.
Although I completely disagree with Mark's understanding of IQ and his intelligence and how the two are related, I find these videos kind of fascinating. I'd just say Mark, are you happy? I feel like thats more important. Either way, i'm glad to hear your perspective.
Out of curiosity, what do you disagree with? His main point is that low IQ individuals are needed in society to fill in less glamorous roles that aren't intellectually stimulating, which is a completely valid point
You need to think more deeply. Life is not about happiness life is about fulfilment which is not the same as happiness. Happiness is a make believe fairy land, you need to understand quickly in life there will be times you are happy and times you are sad. But you need to ensure that overall you are content with your purpose in life and overall are achieving your purpose in which you self define and work to include in your daily life. This will ultimately lead to more happy days but achieving happiness should not be a goal but a side effect of living by your principles and being content with what life has given you good or bad.
@@henrycooper4213what does this have anything to do with the topic at hand?
@@andrewchen2002 sorry if you can’t relate the 2 then I can’t really explain. You may want to try and improve your iq also in the nicest possible way.
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If we were all superhigh IQ, everything would be done by robots ;)
Society as it is built right now is designed to accommodate low IQ individuals. I think that if everyone had a high IQ then we could restructure society to still be able to work properly. Very smart people only want more intellectually challenging jobs because in other jobs they can see that they are smarter than their coworkers and their managers. That said, I still agree that we should not shame people because they cannot learn as fast as others. We need to accept our differences in intellectual ability and try to build a world where everyone has a place.
It's not accommodating enough for many low IQ people without a carer they wouldn't be able to function so many of things in life today require intelligence
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I like this comment. But I think it might partly be pirsinalty. Some people are more excepting of routines even if there smart. Yeah I definitely don't agree with shaming people for things that are not there fault.
Absolute gibberish. Most smart people want to not have a job in the modern sense of the world but be free to pursue their hobbies and aspects of life they enjoy. They don’t go into jobs working for other people out of choice, as for a start high iq people don’t like being told what to do by potentially intellectually inferior superiors.
I've been recommended videos both by you and another man who supposedly has a very high iq. There's something wonderful in seeing people who may be vastly different in one dimension share so much in many others.
You make a great point here. And, I just want to say you are a lot more intelligent than you give yourself credit for. Your ability to clearly explain your ideas is impressive.
really good video and very informative! Ive never been super smart and i never really did well in class when it came to maths and stuff and my brain seem to often have a short limit on the mental capacity and stuff. I dont know if my IQ is low or if long term mental stress has messed with my brain, but watching these videos gives light to an area of society that very rarely gets talked about.
And that some people such as the occasional teacher (that are supposed to help teach ppl stuff) make ppl maybe not want to continue learning cus they put students down and make them feel dumb is just sad
I did not know that a youtube channel about not being smart could be so interesting. It is actually really enlightening to get insight in your life. Thanks you for sharing and congratulations to getting an audience not only including people that struggle with what you do. Do you have people around you helping you with life advice in general or how is that part in your life looking?
He’s actually very intelligent and mentally robust. Maybe not academically gifted but no one can doubt his competency
because they need people to do custodian jobs for 1 dollar a month
Hah, I was thinking of Brave New World as I started watching this video, and then you go and mention. Great luck to you and your channel.
I Love your channel man
Keep it up!
the assumption is if everyone was highly intelligent there would be no one working low level service jobs but it's still not true, the low level service jobs just might as well have more complex systems and duties, if low level services jobs are needed the world would adapt in this way naturally given if everyone is intelligent. if intelligence was scatted per average then higher level jobs would just adapt to even more complex duties
But our attitudes would also adapt. Now 70 is considered low IQ and 120 is considered high IQ.
If 140 was average then 120 would be considered low and people will insult you for not being able to calculate the square root of pi.
Very interesting guy. Subbed, thanks ...
I believe there's different kinds of intelligent. You sure talk well and have good points. Are you sure you're not just on the Spectrum, dyslexia maybe?
You are a very deep thinker. That was a very interesting video.
I personally think that people who dislike low IQ people just have their own internal complex or some other problems with themselves. And the teachers might have just thought that they failed at their job if they couln't teach you something and they might have directed their anger at you. That is unfair of course.
Weird most people I know in science and arts that I would suspect to be high IQ never cared nor talked about IQ their entire lives... but it seems some fetish topic for some people.
As a comment i would say that a lot of necessary work to keep a society going is not appreciated enough for pay rates to reflect that society would collapse without such work. they are normally jobs where you have to perform tasks in 3 dimensions. A cleaner, grease monkey, plumber, orchard worker are as important as a doctor. Simplify things down to environment, and whole foods are medicine. It's the trouble people get themselves into more often than not that lead to specialist high wage elites Not only but people do put on airs.
Low IQ is not a disability it is a lack of ability. sometimes you just have to go with what you got
Bro's the realist
i'm not sure if this channel is a parody or something. Your points are interesting and well thought out. You're clearly smarter than you either think or claim. An IQ of 70 is comparitively lower than the smartest dog breeds would achieve.
I have an IQ result above 120 and I'd struggle to read clearly whilst thinking of points to talk about and speaking into a camera in the way you have here.
So, just genuinely interested if this is all legit content. Or if you're just trying to reach an audience, even if it's with good intent to help?
If you genuinely think you're low IQ, I'd suggest retesting, or finding other ways to gauge your intelligence because you're definitely not slow and IQ tests are known to be flawed in general.
This guy is a genius for getting traction on his RUclips channel by claiming his IQ is 70 in a society full of pretentious posers.
yeah all the people with IQ test fetish will subscribe lol ... and will randomly mention their "high IQ" for no reason
He's a liar and a fake.
Hope you come back soon.. You were so consistent for years then once i found your channel you disappeared😞
I wonder if psychometrists give out performance iq instead of overall iq to their clients.
Look at it this way: Gpt 4 scores around 120 in a IQ test, but in general intelligence the model is considered worse than a dog. So here you go…
Good stuff! Humans are the only thing God ever died for. Everyone has value, no matter their IQ.
I agree with your point but I don't agree about the job distinction. Low IQ people have a right to exist and thrive, but that's not contingent on the idea that they're suited to work menial jobs and high IQ people aren't
As someone that generally does pretty well on these kinds of tests, I personally like menial jobs because they give me the headspace to reflect and daydream. "High IQ" jobs can be soul crushing if you realize you're exhausting your brainpower on some corporate pet project.
"Low IQ" jobs are used as an excuse to exploit and justify lower wages for vulnerable people. It is why, at least in America, people with disabilities can legally be paid less than minimum wage. Brave New World is a criticism of this distinction, and a breakdown of our capitalist, class-based society and what it would look like if taken to its logical conclusion.
I've been watching a few of your videos and I've noticed you care a lot about your IQ level. Yes, it can be important in some ways but what's more important is your happiness, so I'd say you'd be better focusing more of your time on that. Try finding a hobby you enjoy and you can even make videos about it so you can share your passion with us.
At the end of the day happiness is way more important than intelligence so don't get too wrapped up on that and try to spend more time doing things that make you laugh and smile instead 🙂
I agree 100%. I am 52 and can attest to that fact. I think the 60 on up? IQ perhaps have so much self-awareness that it can be quite trying in life. I very much respect his attitude.
We need people to fill all the niches of the workforce.
If you can learn a language from nothing, you can do pretty much do anything. You may need to spend more time learning stuff, but nothing is impossible.
Also have you tried ADHD medication before?
I don't think this lad is "low IQ"
I think he's just Irish and wasn't taught correctly in school.
I hope he gets a legitimate IQ/Aptitude test done as his perseverance leads me to believe he would be a good Woodsman/Demolitionist in the trades.
Maybe even a welder with a little work
I don't think this lad is "low IQ"
I think he's just Irish
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I am so grateful youtube guided me to you.
I have an IQ of 140 and as a child the language used towards me and others regarding this was ultimately derogatory and unhelpful. I had to do a lot of unlearning during my late teens and early 20s that everyone has intrinsic value and I am not worthy of a) more money, b) safety and security, c) better health outcomes just because I can fulfil cognitive tasks better than someone else. Everyone is deserving of respect for their role and intrinsic value in society. Even reframing it as "different kinds of intelligence" has limited usefulness in promoting kindness, understanding, and a cohestive society. Being a human being should not be a competitive sport or have some sort of numbered power ranking against the worthiness of all other people. Especially for people with disabilities and elderly people with cognitive decline - society should unconditionally provide supports for people to live a happy and fruitful lives.
Agreed.
Idk, seem pretty bright to me. I think the way we metric these things has been criticized heavily!
All people are important have value 👌
As a high IQ person, I can tell you that by having this channel online - without any privacy guardrails - you are putting yourself at a huge disadvantage (regardless of how much "pity" or "encouragement" you get from your audience).
If he truly has an IQ of 70 he would be considered disabled and would be entitled to legal protection due to his disability. Him being transparent about it can be even better, because if a potential employer finds out information about his disability like this and due to prejudice doesn’t hire him just based on information about his disability that they shouldn’t have…. Well I think that have potential grounds for legal action, of course depending on the country. In my country it is illegal for hiring employers to google people they are interviewing without the permission of the person they are interviewing. Basically collecting information about a potential employee without consent is illegal, this includes googling them.
@@Sib666Yeah, if your plan is to live as a parasite, threatening employers with legal action because of your disability is the way to go. And good luck proving in court that they did not hire you because of that and not because you're an entitled b*tch (fortunately it doesn't count as disability yet).
I don't think it's "hatred" of low-IQ individuals.
More likely, it's frustration.
Low I.Q. people need jobs and those jobs should pay enough to live comfortably. There's always something a healthy person can do that makes money. Our richest businesses thrive on this kind of worker and they are valuable.
if you have aspergers, i think an iq test wont give you a correct iq score dueto thedifficult sometimes to focus. you act way smarter than other ”70” iq people. im a high functioning adhd person, but even i have my struggles despite an iq of 138…. iq is also one way of meassuring things a guy came up with
The society of alphas in Cyprus sounds like modern day India.
I find it hard to believe that this person is unintelligent. He is articulate, reads literature, and thinks about society on an abstract level. He probably has some disability in one or a few cognitive areas of functioning which causes his low IQ score, while his verbal reasoning is obviously well above average. Just my conjecture!
Mark Molloy for President!!
Very important truth!
I'm a high school science teacher, and I understand that some students are just not adept at understanding / learning concepts. They fall into 3 camps: those who are enthusiastic and try their hardest, those who give up and sit quietly while they wait for the class to end, and those who alleviate their boredom by being an utter nuisance to me and their classmates. If you're not very bright, just trying your hardest is all anyone can ask, and it's worthy of as much respect as an A grade. Also, staying out of the way is acceptable. But those who waste their own time, and everyone else's, can go to hell; It's those kids that give low IQ people a bad name. Though, to be fair, some intelligent kids do that too (which is even worse because they're squandering a genetic gift).
bad childhood environment is the biggest predictor of poorly behaving students, IQ is not a predictor of poorly behaved students
@@davidcarter8269 I agree, the parents are in large part to blame. But that, too, is down to IQ in most cases. IQ correlates strongly with things like marriage stability and income, which greatly affect the environment at home.
@@helifalic you are dangerously over attributing everything to IQ. Human behaviour is extremely complex, and cannot be simplified down to IQ as the biggest variable.
Many psychologists today posit that there are roughly 9 facets of intelligence. IQ only measures 3. And even if IQ measured all 9 facets of intelligence, that still wouldn’t even come close to measuring someone’s personality.
Further, let’s assume that what you are saying is true, which I doubt, but for the sake of argument let’s assume that IQ is the biggest predictor of income and marriage stability, and that therefore a child’s upbringing is the sum of their parents IQ predominantly. Under this assumption, we still arrive at other societal issues being the problem as IQ measures 2 things: fluid intelligence and crystallized intelligence. The G-factor resides in fluid intelligence. Whereas crystallized intelligence completely relies on access to education and information. So even then, I’d argue that IQ is less important for measuring a families income and stability, but rather education is a much bigger factor.
In my life, I’ve run into all sorts of people both dumb and smart. What I’ve noticed is that there are a lot of smart people that come from poor places, and a lot of dumb people come from more affluent environments. We cannot view human behaviour purely from the lens of IQ - this is very dangerous. IQ, with all its flaws, is only a small aspect of what makes a person a person.
I used to share this view of yours, that IQ could be attributed to a large chunk of human behaviour, but in reality it can't.
@@davidcarter8269 Well articulated. However, I think you're overestimating the importance of education. Education only correlates with income because most of the highest paying jobs require difficult degrees - but you can't attain those degrees without fluid intelligence first. I've taught in quite a few schools at this point, from low SES to high SES, and there are shocking differences in overall student behaviour and general ability. It's naive to assume that those kids develop academic ability based on affluence. If daddy is rich, it doesn't help Jimmy understand abstract concepts.
Now, here is your fundamental misunderstanding with my point: I didn't claim that IQ determines even a large chunk of human behaviour. I was talking about student behaviours in the context of science in high school. Misbehaviour in this case arises predominantly from a lack of interest, which I'm asserting typically arises from a lack of ability. If you can't keep up, you'll get bored. If you're bored, you're more likely to act up.
As it is measured, IQ is an incredibly powerful predictor of many life outcomes including affluence, incarceration and marriage success regardless of the myriad forms of intelligence proclaimed to exist outside of it. It's not dangerous to simply acknowledge an empirical fact.
"I was talking about student behaviours in the context of science in high school. Misbehaviour in this case arises predominantly from a lack of interest, which I'm asserting typically arises from a lack of ability."
This is absolutely an unfounded assertion. I am not misunderstanding your point, I am just arguing that lack of ability is a small factor and that there are many other factors that supersede IQ, that determine a students interest in high school science.
I will proceed to list them.
1. Cultural significance of education. Different cultures and backgrounds put a certain level of emphasis on education. This is completely unrelated to intelligence, this is a completely cultural matter. As such, you'll notice Chinese students or Indian students that work extremely hard and are extremely interested in math and science. This is not because Indians and Chinese have greater ability than everyone else, this is because they come from a culture of studying extremely hard in school.
2. Money. Money plays a big role in your access to support. I know you like to argue that IQ is the predictor of money, but for the sake of a hypothetical let's assume we have Bob and Joe. Bob has an IQ of 100, so does Joe. But Joe and Bob come from different socioeconomic backgrounds. And as such, Joe being the far richer of the two is much more inclined to enjoy and appreciate education because every time Joe struggled with a concept his dad could afford to take time off work and help him, or even buy him a tutor. Bob on the other hand, even though his IQ is completely equal to Joe, Bobs dad works 3 minimum wage jobs and could never afford to take time off work to help Bob when he was struggling with a concept. As a result, despite Bob and Joe having equal IQ, Bob is extremely frustrated and disinterested in high school science because he doesn't have a support system to help him learn.
3. Friends. At a young age, what a child's friends do greatly influence their path in life. Many students, if involved with a studious group of friends, will also be studious and follow. However, if one finds themselves gravitating towards a group of friends that are disinterested in education, despite the individuals IQ, they will also have a proclivity to copy what their friends are doing.
4. Guidance. Children need guidance above everything else. A 110 IQ child with guidance can far exceed the capabilities of a 150 IQ child who never had support systems or guidance.
5. To conclude, I have listed 4 factors that supersede intelligence that have a great impact on a child's proclivity to education.
I maintain that it is a dangerous argument to make that IQ is an indicator of children's engagement with high school science.
Further, you may now make the counterargument: but some of the factors you listed are results of socioeconomic standing, which is predicted by IQ! This would be such a true point if our society wasn't designed to make rich people richer and poor people poorer. Because of the structure of our society, being poor traps you in a cycle of being poor - this is evidenced mathematically, I have studied it in depth as a mathematician. A famous example for you to look at is Vilfredo Pareto's distribution that showed the longer a capitalist society exists, the richer the rich will get and the harder it will be for the poor to escape poverty. Thus, by the vary design of our society, it is so hard for poor people of any IQ to escape poverty. And it is so easy for rich people of any IQ to maintain that wealth. And with money, comes greater education, and with greater education comes greater understanding, and with greater understanding comes greater interest. Hence why IQ is such a good predictor of work success, because it's such a good predictor of education!
Also, not to be an annoying mathematician, but we also can't completely put our faith in psychology models - inherently, they are so multivariable to a point they are almost redundant. And there is so much we still do not understand about human behaviour, one can only ask: how many unknown variables of human behaviour are we missing that stop us from making a complete picture?
Im dead after hearing that question 😂
People with average intelligence, 85-115 are the ones that do most jobs and keep infrastructure going, of course you need high IQ people to plan, invent and organize at the top. Low IQ is below 85 and there really isn't much jobs for those people in the west, mainly because these jobs have been automatized.
Your IQ makes you damn cute and likeable, keep it up
Who gave you the IQ test? There are some bogus ones online that aren't a true IQ test, ya know? And doesn't the school system where you live have special education classes? I think you have many talents which cannot be learned. They can be taught (like piano for instance) but only excelled in when you are gifted. I wish you all the best.
Also Jordan Peterson is wrong about an embarrassing significant amount of things 😪
Well said ❤❤❤❤
Nobody scores 70 on those tests it's not imaginable for someone called intelligent or anything like that
Don't you love when they compare themselves to you like your stupidity makes them smarter. Plus, we are in different environments for the most part when we interact, different problems. How many times have you had to settle down someone above you who makes an error that you didn't? We also have to constantly explain that dumb people are not easier to control. Ignorant people, ignorant people are easy to control. At 24, I had an IQ of 116 with serious defects from schizophrenia, which I'm obviously faking say hours of people. Fine. Do you need the number at the social security office? I'll help you out, pal? I had to go back into a group home due to them hunting me again. They tried to make me passive and apathetic. It's like, honey, do you think you're the only one in line? I'm not usually political, but thank you Reagan. Oh yes, as far as spelling goes, I was in yet another experiment. That has got to stop without permissions.
I have a strong suspicion that IQ tests aren't accurate tests of intelligence. At best maybe they can detect a deficit or learning disability, but you really don't seem all that dumb to me at all.
Everybody has a place. We can't all be geniuses. And geniuses also come with their own set of problems - lack of social skills, usually.
I'm categorized as Superior and I've witnessed how people categorized as Gifted operate also - they're far better than me with their cognitive skills, LOL. But my social life is better than theirs. And Average people have far better social lives than me. 😂
Everybody has a role to play in society. Just make the most of what you have.
You have made a lot of good points here, but I must ask what is the best course of action when automation and outsourcing to unskilled immigrants overtakes 'Low IQ jobs'?
I think jobs are a means to survive. If jobs are automated, either unskilled workers are maintained with social safety nets, or they're forced to survive in other ways.
Scavenging, hunting, fishing, and farming for subsistence are ways to survive.
Though it will be ironic if we get so technologically advanced that people are made to go back to more primitive living conditions.
I think it is mostly low status jobs, many high education jobs are seen as high status but can be menial in daily routine. People just need status in life, simple as that.
@@solonyetskito think about it, we work these hitech, complex things coz big entities like states and giant countries exist. Pretty much only reason. People used to live in same land areas doing what you describe, without countries. Still cannot decide which is better way to survive in longrun for humanity (next 10 000 years).
If you can read brave new world, you have an above average IQ for todays standards.
Your math teacher was right, you are intelligent but did not care to learn. Did you deliberately fluke your IQ test at that age to have a convenient excuse? And now being older you changed your priorities and suddenly your IQ, wich was never really low in the first place, suddenly "improves" as you discover that in fact you are not disabled in that way at all.
maybe you should get tested again. I don't think your IQ is really 70. And if you measure that low it could mean that you have some other learning disability which is interfering with your ability to take the test. There are many different types of IQ tests, some even measure it by having you stare at a dot on a wall and they measure brain activity. you might find your IQ is actually much higher than a paper test (or some other clinical test). It isn't fair for you to be labeled with such a low score if other certified tests indicate otherwise.
what iq test did you take? care to take another one?
Are you sure you just have been working on your confidence and ability to focus? Your IQ seems fine, dude.
I don't think you have an IQ of 70 and if the test said you did then it was not done correctly. It could just be learning disabilities that were not accounted for in the test. Also, IQ is not something that is fixed. People can improve their IQ 1-5 points per year of extra education.
What is your iq if you don't mind me asking?
Dude, you’re a good guy sorry I don’t believe your IQ score. I think it’s a lot higher!
So then need to be our slaves, roman style ? Gamer.
LmAo
mb there something else that effect ur brain from properly working
Hey Mark, I'm really curious about your life at this point. Like how old are you and how you mostly spend your days nowadays. also are you married or not? do you socialise? can you tell me about that?
I'm 26 and work at McDonald's. I spend my time working, reading and going for long walks. I go to the cinema quite a lot.
@@markmolloy1381 Are you planning to have kids in future or not?
No but I might change my mind in the future.
Hi Mark. Your smart. Jesus loves you. He died for your sins on the cross and was ressurected by God his father to eternal life.