Deku The Quirkless Villain is SCARY! - My Hero Academia
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I mean, what the hell is the hero safety commision gonna do? arrest him for illegal quirk usage when he's quirkless?
No they would arrest him for assault towards the heroes
murder, assault... all sorts of things he could do...
And being a vigilante. Preforming heroism without a hero licence
@@wisie707 There are ways around that
@@A0Newbie0A in that world vigilantism is described as using your quirk illegally to do hero work, so thats not something izuku could be charged with
Realizing Bakugou could've died in the literal first episode be like:
ikr? maybe not chapter 286....
@@benjipixel1438 WE DONT TALK ABOUT THAT CHAPTER
@@dramafinn2425 NUX PREDECTED IT MORTAL
Ye deku could multiple times kill bakugou
@@rossjones8656 almost but Bakugo is confirmed to be alive kinda hoped he died for character development for Deku
Deku’s level of intelligence would make him a very frightening villain. He would know exactly the weaknesses of the pro heroes and how to defeat them.
Ahhhhhh you're right!
That is VERY scary
My hero academia's version of zemo
Tomura is canonically smarter than Deku
Being smart alone doesn’t make you a considerable threat. You need power & resources, both of which Tomura had but Izuku did not
so like the boys but with a competent main character
A lot of Pro Heroes have shitty Quirks to being with, so a skilled fighter in peak-human form should easily defeat most Pro's. Quirkless people have an advantage in a way.
Deku seems like he could be an interesting anti hero or vigilante
I see, avoiding the "villain" word, eh?
Damn right
ok so the spin off for mha is darwins game.? i mean after u listen to everything u said. hahaha not in a bad way but a fun cool way lol. ill elaborate if anyone wants me to
@@flyingden1306 the joker
He'd be like Owlman or sth. Like an evil batman.
Damn, a concept where Deku is the UA traitor. That’s actually a very interesting concept.
Bro it starts with him saying how he became the number one hero
@@devss4982 I was referring to 8:05
Edit: I was not reading this properly and I only now realize that this man really thought I was dumb enough to believe that Deku was the U.A traitor. I'm not sure if you just didn't watch the video but the video is about a hypothetical situation in which Deku is a villain, which... is what I was discussing.
There's a fanfic about that..
@@princessathanasia4708 link?
@@princessathanasia4708 or title
"You Can't Count on Anyone, Especially your heroes" - Syndrome from The Incredibles
And now, Deku from MHA
General Studies Support Item tactical quirkless Deku as a vigilante sounds amazing. It’d be kinda like Mike’s arc in Monsters University.
There’s a fanfic called Apotheosis.
@@Karlos1234ify Love that story
@@Karlos1234ify ay that story if lit
Deku if he was a villain would be a bigger villain then shigaraki. Change my mine.
he would be.He would hit everyone where it exactly hurts.He would have fucked people up real bad.And him being more mentally stable than Shiggy from the begininng, hed be indeed more scary.He could build a network of villain pawns and use them the best way he could and would strategize like a boss.
@@TheBlankInk he would, and having his information on heroes to trade info for villain's help or servies. He'd be op
@@TheBlankInk He would be able to break his target mentally, emotionally, and Physically. He just needs to get the right information. ( Friends, family, strengths, weakness, Black mailable secrets, etc) He would not only take down heroes but society as a whole.
Pfft I’m not gonna
@@potatomaster9463 and that wouldn't be hard to figure out without spies, no one would suspect some quirkless nobody.
Hero Society would fall apart. Imagine him being a information broker leaking intel on heroes, their quirks and weaknesses.
bruh, he'd be so powerful. Villains would pay him in services or money or even lend him their assistance in anything he does in exchange for information. He could become one of the most powerful villains in the underground of society
There’s nothing that Izuku would know that the general populace doesn’t
@@Sjono information wise that may be true, but he's the ultimate hero fanboy. He literally thinks of how hero quirks could be used, what other quirks they're compatible against, the most effective way to use them etc. He's intelligent and creative when it comes to how quirks are used, and let's face it. Most of the general populace have their own quirks so they wouldn't be as hero obsessed to go so far as to literally fill out multiple journals about them for their whole lives. Deku could make so many plans to take down heroes with his creativity and knowledge of heroes since he's constantly studying them in his spare time.
@@Malakai__WeLoveYouMafumafu
You know there’s other fanboys in the world right. Stain for a example is a huge fanboy. Being a fanboy isn’t going to make you some impotent force.
Heroes are well known people so anyone would know about their Quirks. That doesn’t make the Deku special. If you know how a famous athlete performs their abilities that doesn’t mean you’ll instantly stand a chance. You’re a dime in a dozen compared to various other people doing the same thing.
@@Sjono there's 1. All might time limits and his weakness spot. Actually i forgot if All Might told him his time limit, but he did show him his weakness spot
I like it, I think the combined bakugo bullying him with the rejection from all might would have made him snap, becoming angry and obsessive leading to all for one where he gets a quirk. Personally that's just how I'd see it happening.
@Lauren Lunt
Amen to that
I feel like deku would make a good joker 😂
Getting a shit quirk (like most of the population has really bad quirks) is worse than being a skilled fighter. Knuckle-Duster (who is a Quirkles-Hand to Hand fighter) from Vigilanties pretty much 1-shot Stain, and Stain is capable of killing Pro-Heroes without much trouble.
and also the thing where bakogu said to take a swan dive off the roof
I think the quirk he would get from all for one would be 'Implode', and the caveat for keeping it would be "go kill all the people who've wronged you"
(i.e bakugo, all might, UA)
I wouldn’t like to think Deku evil but he would be very scary as a villain because with his mind he can stop heroes since he know all heroes quirk works and study them very well.
Right, as an enthusiast and easily overlooked he’d at least be a great spy. And if a villain took sidekicks he’d be a good one too.
@@runningoncylinders3829 you’re so right and this show how power isn’t not so great and Deku is the exact example for all those quirkless people who can use their mind and study hard they can do anything as a hero or a villain. That’s the most scariest.
Honestly though, a kid going to UA to train as a villein is a much more interesting concept.
@@JessicaRodriguez-bg6gu right for example just look at deku's doctor who is quirkless but has the highest IQ out some of all the characters in the show he has the ability to turn people into a nomu and still the quirks of children.
@@paulabarnes233 SPILER ALERT
That guy isn't Quirkless, he has a Quirk that I think makes him immortal or drastically increases his lifespan
Deku as a villain would really be interesting. If there was a spinoff with just a few chapters, I would love to see it with Deku's point of view as a villain.
My favorite interpretation is from a web comic called "Two Inches Too Late."
It involves a dude with a quirk that can project others into alternate timelines, and he does so with All Might, sending him to a timeline where his injury against All For One wasn't as sever. Two inches off in fact.
From there, the consequences are far-reaching...and dire...
Link?
Link?? Plz
Link?
I am here! To ask you for a link
link?
Who else thinks when like the canon deku au is finished, they should make a few episodes of the villain deku au?
(I don’t wanna rush/bring more stress to the animators, so this is just a thought)
I hope so
I mean, the manga looks like it’s coming to an end soon and I know I’m gonna want content after it’s over, sooooo yes, yes I do hope this
@@OhsweetOhno yes, but I don’t want much stress for the editors of this anime lol
I don’t think that should be in the same series. Once the My Hero Academia series is complete, I highly doubt that Horikoshi is going to add a villain-in the same series. If I’m being totally honest, I would pay to see a villain Izuku spin-off. That being said, it’s possible, and I’d really enjoy seeing a different perspective and/or what could have been the result of failed dreams, but it won’t happen in the canon My Hero series.
@@sophxxe tbh your right
If deku became a villian, hed be a great threat to everybody. Like legit.
Quirk or not.
He has info on nearly every hero that ever existed. This info in a villain's hands would be bad.
he could be like Eraser head without a quirk.
@John joseph Corona The Deku Who Laughs
THE DARK KNIGHT DEKU
Deku, but quirkless and like Batman but with a mom and not a millionaire. I like this idea.
But I definitely like the diabolical villain version more.
Batman is a billionaire
@@sforsalvation4974 my mistake, it’s been a while since I’ve watched anything batman related
@@OhsweetOhno I don't blame u
The way I imagine a Villain Deku is this: After being told by All Might to abandon his dreams and be more realistic, he decides to give up on being a Hero.
Unfortunately, in this scenario he is no where near where Bakugo is and as a result is in critical condition. Deku blames himself for this and only thing echoes in his mind, “Die Loser” & “why don’t you go jump off the roof”.
He decides to do it. In that moment of jumping, he finally felt free. Free from the shackles of society that bound him. That grounded him. That denied him. Denied him the right to dream. In that moment before hitting the ground, a great bitterness and anger was born within him. Hitting the ground, one thought echoed in his mind: “Damn this Society. They should Die.”
As he lays dying & vision fading, a figure appears before him. This would be the first time he met All for One.
That sounds just perfect I would pay to read that
@@phantomtube5180 Same
Not a bad motivation.
I just find it more likely that he would get pushed off. Simply because he doesn't seem to be the kind of person to off himself..no matter how terrible he feels.
Now imagine his guilt gets the better of him. He can't help feel resposible and end up telling some of Bakugo's friends about what happened.
He get pushed to the side of the roof. They aren't really planning on killing him they are just so angry and sad about what happened to Bakugo so their bullying ends up going too far..and Deku falls.
He doesn't become outright hateful or bitter but rather his view of society changes when he gets saved by a villian of all things.
He begins to see how unfair the world is and his heroic trait gets moved away from saving people from villians into saving people from the unfair society they live in.
He would become more of a villian the likes of Stain and attempt to change the society by fighting against "heroes" that arent true heroes.
I doubt he would be quite as bloodthirsty as Stain since he wouldn't actually be interested in killing but just wanted the unfit heroes to come out and show their true colors.
His incredible determination and willpower making him a perfect candidate for someone like all for one to grab and molt as he saw fit.
@@phantomtube5180 Thats literally the introduction I see in every wattpad deku villain stories.
He's personality will cage that's one good thing
There’s a fanfic where Izuku made the infinity gauntlet. Apotheosis.
Ah yes I really enjoyed that one
That a good story
Best story to read and enjoy.
That was a great one.
AGREED 👍 👍 👍
I like how everyone automatically agrees villan Deku would wear a suit or formal wear XD
Still can't tie his tie for shit tho, lol.
But that's ok, he wouldn't be the Izuku we all know and love if be could. 😣
0:35
Hang on, Deku's the 9th not the 7th
He got mixed up with Naruto, don’t worry.
Its legit more realistic for Harry Potter
to turn violent and/or evil or such.
Seriously, Dumbledores Plan to
artifically create an Underdog through
Poverty and Abuse was RISKY, to say
the least. Wow.
@@slevinchannel7589 yea that’s pretty fucked up
I can see the current Deku being a villain. I mean he is terrifying, just look at the way he attacks while smiling and then is willing to literally break himself to achieve his goals. And then watch him as he does it again. Like just imagine if the hero society crossed Deku and he snapped with his intelligence power and determination that he has.
Man I really do wish Deku would actually wear his fucking mask sometimes, like out of the times I’ve seen him wear it plus fan art or different comic au’s. I actually kinda like it.
I know right? Very few people seem to like it but, especially with the new face guard, it would look pretty nice.
The time has come
Youre gonna get what you wish for when they adapt the latest manga chapters
@@Kamiyan4713 I now right, it was about time.
Well, it is a respirator, so he doesn't necessarily need to wear it that often
His Hero Notes Alone would be extremely Valuable to The League
If they even Had Knowledge To All Mights Skinny Form And Time Limit like Deku Had from Ep1 they Could Probably Take Him Out without All For One Intervention
And Deku Has Access to Almost Every Hero's Weaknesses
On top of that He's Very Intelligent (both normally and Tactically) and Actually Quite a Natural in Combat (keeping up with Bakugo even Without Using His Quirk and With Basically 0 Combat Training or Experience)
Honestly this reminds me of that one Doctor Who episode, "turn left" It's so eye-opening to see how different something would play out with one simple change.
If Deku went the way he did, events play out the way they currently are; if he went the same way home he was planning to go before Sludge, he would be a likely villain. Sure he would be quirkless, depressed one with no contacts, but his shear intellect would make him a terrifying opponent to go against.
His motives would be something along the lines of mass media manipulation, always getting out the truth the media never reveals. It would start small, like radio or tv hjacks and would be seen as a police problem, after a while though he could find a way to broadcast his messages to the big screens in cities attached to skyscrapers and such. Now being seen as a big problem to society professional hero's would be sent to find him and bring him in, villain's however, would hunt him down to join and/or praise him.
By this point realistically, USJ or the Stain arc has just happened, so it's also likely that the handyman would be looking for Deku to join the league. He could offer them something that the villains of the series never got until recently, the ability to cause massive public panic. Could you imagine if he revealed that Dabi was Toya, All Might's weakness and that All Might also broke his childhood dream? Hero society would be broken in arc 3!!!
I could see him filling a Lex Luther type role in the league, but his views on the world would be completely shattered. A man looking for purpose and vengeance. Always taunting hero's with his appearance but luring them into a trap last second.
Honestly I love the UnderDog version of him a lot
I always like the idea of him being the first quirkless hero or being a vigilante
As good aa it sound i admit from hori sensei the reason he doesn't want to make quirkless hero because it won't last in long term
When I first started I thought he was going to be like Batman/Ironman and create his own gear and learn combat techniques but it didn’t nothing wrong with that I just think it would’ve been awesome
There should be an arc or movie where Deku and his allies come face to face with their alternate counterparts and an epic between both Dekus and possibly that world's All Might breaking down asking evil Deku to forgive him.
Honestly i can't see Deku going down the path villainy, he's too kind hearted of a person. If he experienced something really traumatic like Shigaraki then maybe, but i doubt he would turn evil just cause he doesn't have a quirk.
A good hearted ✨psychopath✨ like how Gon from hunter x hunter went from a innocent kid to a full blow murder it doesn’t take much for the human morality to change.
It only takes One Bad Day.
@@axthony1344 definitely
@@axthony1344 and sometimes a little push
I think how it would work is that he would think that he was a hero purging a rotten society
Deku as a villain is, in my honest opinion, a Thanos level threat to the world of My Hero Academia.
@@tnb4509 You forget that Deku has an obssession with analysing heroes and their quirks, to the point where if you want to know anything about them, you'd just have to ask him and he'd tell you any and everything he knows about them, which most certainly will include their strenghs, their weaknesses, even their pet peeves.
Now imagine that kind of knowledge, together with Deku's determinated spirit, directed towards aiding evil, and you have something truly terrifying, to the world of My Hero Academia.
@@tnb4509 "Thanos Level Threat" does not translate to wiping half of the population, it pertains to the ammount of damage he'd be able to unleash before the heroes could stop him.
Plus, i do believe the timeline in question in the video is after he meets All Might at the rooftop, he just didn't meet him after the Sludge Incident.
But even then, i do believe that he'd be able to notice that All Might was getting less and less active in his hero work, what with how obssessed he is with him, but he'd probably chalk it up to old age, as for how he could possibly beat All Might, get him into a highly populated area, like a crowd in the mall, like what Shigaraki did.
@@tnb4509 Who said anything about holding All Might at gunpoint? Deku could have a bomb stashed somewhere, even then, All Might is just a man, an incredibly powerfull man to be sure, but still just a man, he has no such power as resistance to bullets, and even if he did, the people around them aren't.
I also never said he'd recognized All Might's weak form, that could only happen if he had meet All Might at the rooftop.
Also, you seem to misunderstand what i mean, when i say that Villain Deku could be considered a "Thanos Level Threat", i'm not talking about the ammount of power he'd have at his disposal, i'm talking about how, like Thanos did in the movies, he'd be able to influence events that are favorable to his plans success, i'm not talking about how he'd be a threat the fabric of reality like Comics Thanos, or even Movie Thanos are, especially since there is no such thing as Cosmic Threats in the MHA universe.
@@tnb4509 I'm not disagreeing with you on any of the points you made, i'm just spit balling possibilities here on why a Villain Deku would be extremely dangerous to a society that worships quirks, simply because they'd keep underestimating him.
As for how a 15 year old could possibly get his hands on a bomb, i made one when i was 12, following instructions i had found on the internet, using stuff you usually find at a gardening store. MHA happens at least 200 years in the future of our world, there is no reason to doubt that he could possibly make a bomb himself.
And of course, i could have compared Villain Deku to any other villain that uses brains over brawn, such a lex luthor or Owlman from DC, but i went with Thanos for two reasons, one he was the first thing that came to mind, and second because of a Villain Deku story called "Apotheosis", so either of the reasons i chose to compare him to Thanos have much standing.
@@aswd90 Considering the fact that Izuku has gotten strong enough that a bullet bounced off of him in the recent manga chapter I'd say that yeah bullets don't do shit to all might. But yeah he is still just a man. A god like man but a man non the less.
Imagine like the recap thing go from “this is the story of how i become the greatest hero“ while the word hero is just crossed out and just start glitching
The joker or Batman since he studies everyone’s weakness
Vary true, why do you think all the Justis League except Batman avoided the Joker like a plague. Doomsday and Apocalypse, everyone head first into battle. Som skinny guy with green hair, white skin and a purple suit
HHHHH********LLLLLLLL NO
I imagine that if Izuku didn’t get a quirk, he would be a ruthless viglante like the punisher.
Plot armour naked: shigaraki hero is scary
Edit:I wanna say something
Horikoshi is up to a new plot twist that nobody is gonna expect.i mean think about it.
If he was gonna make a good series he should have made it about all-might but instead he made it about deku.atleast that's what my guts saying
He would be a scary hero too.
I’m more safe around that nice mind control guy.
I kinda hope Dabi goes to the heroes side
Tomura and deku are gonna swap places, Watch me be right afo is gonna twist deku’s mind like he did to tenko, i mean if deku is anakin we need a darth vader as well.
@@thediamondgmcm5581 Pleeaaaseeee let this happen!
Its legit more realistic for Harry Potter
to turn violent and/or evil or such.
Seriously, Dumbledores Plan to
artifically create an Underdog through
Poverty and Abuse was RISKY, to say
the least. Wow.
-Just saying.
I honestly feel that Deku even after if almight tell him he can't be a hero he will still try with other options to at least be able to help the heros
Its legit more realistic for Harry Potter
to turn violent and/or evil or such.
Seriously, Dumbledores Plan to
artifically create an Underdog through
Poverty and Abuse was RISKY, to say
the least. Wow.
-Just saying.
I would like to see you explain villain Bakugou and what would happen if he accepted Tomura Shigaraki offer to be apart of the LOV and how Deku would react to all that seeing his childhood friend end up like this I really hope you read this and I love your videos
I wonder what it would take for Bakugo to even become a villain, maybe a slight variation in his past would make the villain option more viable?
@@connormccarthy6741
Shigaraki would have said "do it ir no balls" and Bakugo would be forced to join them
I mean besides Bakugo wanting to be a hero, he’s kind of already a villain. At least to me he is, you say “childhood friend” but he bullied Deku for probably more than half his life, going so far as to tell Deku to kill himself. So I wouldn’t really say “friends”.
@@arealhumanbean3058 STOOP💀💀💀😭😭
Would've loved to see Izuku meet the vigilante KnuckleDuster instead of AllMight.
All: Listens to the reasoning of the video.
Plot Armor: "Deku was the 7th Possessor of One For All.
Me: Can't get the mistake out of my mind, but all of us makes mistakes. He's the 9th btw.
There is a fan made manga that pretty much shows how it would look if deku was a vaigilante
Whats its name?
If possible can u plz bring up a link
Try Reading "Deku The Quirkless Villain"
I love the idea of deku being turned into a villain by being brainwashed and is forced to try and hunt down his classmates and becoming a sort of winter soldier figure for his friends.
My vision of Deku being a Villain would be that he would slowly regret becoming one, even if he convince himself that this is the right choice, making it impossible to step back because everyone know who he is and how dangerous he is.
Imagine All Might having to teach one of AFO’s pupils.
Damn vigilante Deku would kick ass. He’d probably be smart enough to know the ins and outs of the law and coupled with his quirklessness it would make him untouchable. He could easily just wait for the villain to make the first move and then if he ever is caught just file it as self-defense but yeah.
As a villain I feel like he’d be terrifying because he smart and mentally stable enough to do some real damage. He’d also know about All Might’s weakness, time limit, and civilian persona and unlike the other villains wouldn’t rely on a quirk so if he did ever get caught up in a situation where those quirk destroying bullets for shot at him it wouldn’t really affect his overall poweress.
Villain Deku would have a quirk if we are talking about Batman parallels his quirk would be
Prep Time
The best kind of power
@@user-ng2nm9gk7q he already has the deductive reasoning
He would either end up as the worlds devilish villain or be found by Gentle Criminal before then who would keep him from going too far
Hot take but I find a villainess version of Deku a way more interesting character. Since Deku's character development has been pretty abysmal in the actual series. It's pretty easy for a pure character to go either way. He could have the same personality too.
Not having a quirk in this world is like being handicapped. He didn't have friends before UA, constantly put down for even existing, Bakugou even hinted that he should kill himself, an idea Deku's against only becuz Bakugou would get in trouble! His life was actually really rough based simply on how he was born.
Taking all that into account its kinda easy to see the next big super villain born from a society obsessed with quirks. He could still love quirks but hate the people who use them.
Hinted? He outright said it. People go on and on about his character development and yes he has it but one thing I absolutely hate is how apperantly it's erases all the shit he had done in the past. I hate him and even if he becomes a better person until he clean up his act I will continue to do so. And yes Izuku's hero worship got really obnoxious and class 1A taking on SS class villians now in the manga are you kidding me? I guess Stain really did eradicated %80 of all the heroes in Japan. Fuck this manga at this point. Quirkless people are treated like the blacks in jim crow era....oh no they can become high leveled doctors engineers etc. Concept of heroes are corrupt...oh wait the money seeking ones are actually pretty great! Villians are the opressed lower class , mutant types are the only massages stayed consistent at this point. Hirokoshiin my opinion squandered so many good potentials
I've read amazing fanfictions on a03 that show similar plot points and some different takes on deku's possible vigilantism/villainy. 'Mightless' is a great example for a villain take , and 'Undefined' and 'The thin gray line' are awesome examples of the vigilante route.
0:30 Did this guy really just call Deku the 7th user of OFA? That would've been Nana. Deku is the 9th.
the concept of Villain Deku is always interesting and I'm happy to hear your take on it
while the part where he becomes a vigilante is interesting, I do see Izuku being more on the villain side, but still have his own standards just like any other person would, he would still try to save people but willing to fight others if it means achieving his goals, he would try not to kill so much but know it's unavoidable.
My take and idea towards the concept of Villain Deku is that he becomes a villain because he was constantly rejected from becoming a hero, when All Might told him he can't be a hero, that would break him, then he would realize that he's not alone, that villains are exactly like him, people who were rejected and disowned by society, he would join the League of Villains in hope to change society and save those who needs saving but ignored by heroes. With knowledge of researching heroes and their quirks, he would be a valuable asset to the League.
and even then, there are many possibilities of what could happen, either Izuku becomes a new leader and a new AFO successor when he realize Shigaraki has no intention of changing society or start his own league with former members joining his cause. the possibilities is endless and overall, it results in making Izuku becoming the most dangerous villain for the heroes to face. quirk or quirkless.
an interesting idea that relates to villain Deku is the idea that Izuku had when he faced Gentle Criminal, their fight made Izuku realized that he could of gone the same dark path as Gentle. The concept of Villain Deku, however shows how CLOSE he was from going down that path, and it was literally a bottle slip away, a different walkpath away, pretty much if Midoriya wasn't present when the sludge villain captured Bakugo, or that never happened, then Izuku would be on the path of a villain.
like you said, if Izuku never gotten that opportunity, he would never become the successor of One For All. and because of that, I like to believe that the MHA multiverse is split into two, with more than half of them being timelines where Midoriya becomes a villain and/or a vigilante.
that's my take on it and what I like to say about it
You know, a lot of people give V!Deku a quirk, but I think that the idea of him as a quirkless villain is much more menacing. In the main series, One For All ends up overshadowing Deku's original analytical qualities. One of my favourite exchanges in a fan work had All For One offering Deku a quirk, and him replying with the line, "I'll prove I don't need one." ...which I find to be chilling and exciting. In the world of villains, Deku would become like an evil Batman, analysing and planning to find heroes' weaknesses and take them down.
Actually, I find that your analysis follows a lot of the same line of thinking that mine does. I think it's really the most logical route for his character. My only point of difference is this - I think that Deku on the "vigilante route" would eventually encounter Stain. Much like in the canon timeline, I think Stain would recognize Deku as a "genuine" hero, and be willing to spare him after being able to overpower him easily. However, that's where I think things would diverge again. For this more bitter, cynical Deku, who has seen a world where how you're born matters more than what's in your heart - where his hero rejected him and the bully who told him to kill himself gets to live out his dream - Stain's message would resonate. Stain himself was once a vigilante, and his villainous actions are motivated by noble ideals. I believe that Deku would become Stain's protégé, sharing in his desire to rid the world of false heroes and create a world where society is protected by those truly worthy of the name. Their one point of contention would be on the subject of All Might, the man that Stain considers the only one worthy of defeating him, and whom Deku would consider to be a "false hero" after the way his dreams were crushed.
At some point after Deku joined him, Stain would be defeated, either due to his involvement with the League, or because Deku's help caused him to become a bigger threat faster. Either way, Stain would be taken out in a public display much like in the original timeline. It is possible that, because of Deku giving Stain information on heroes' weaknesses to help him defeat his targets more easily, Stain would become a big enough threat for All Might to become directly involved. With Stain gone, Deku would either learn of Stain's dealings with the League of Villains after, or have already known, but would regardless be among the new wave of recruits to join. However, for Deku there would be a particular reason for wanting to join the League, because he would wholeheartedly share Shigaraki's desire to kill All Might. While it's possible that All For One would offer Deku a quirk, I don't think that he'd accept one - at least not initially. By this point, being able to defeat heroes without a quirk would have become a point of pride, and part of his identity. By managing to defeat someone blessed with powers while he himself had none, he would be proving the very society that rejected him wrong, proving that he had worth that was not determined by his birth. The mantle of "Defenseless Izuku" would be a name he'd bear in mockery of those who'd underestimate him because he didn't have a quirk.
For him to cast that aside, I think, would take something big. One possibility is learning about the true nature of One For All. With the knowledge that All Might's quirk can be passed on, he would certainly feel outrage that his one-time idol had possessed the means to change his fate, but chosen not to - especially if he learned that All Might himself had once been quirkless. That might or might not be enough to make him abandon his pride, depending on when he learned it, but would certainly cement his hatred for All Might, and desire to kill him. The other thing that might push him over the edge if that didn't is having to go up against All Might's successor. Whoever was chosen to be the next bearer of One For All, they'd be someone from UA, meaning that they'd not only have the magnified strength of One For All, but also their own strong quirk, supercharged by its power. I think this would ultimately prove an obstacle that quirkless Deku couldn't overcome on his own. He would accept a quirk from All For One not out of a desire for it, but out of tactical pragmatism, and the reasoning that if his opponent was "cheating" by using a power that wasn't theirs, then it would be fine for him to do it too.
Now this my idea:
After he gets his power has pay the price he gets into the school of heroic stuff. When he gets there he meets kachan. (sorry if I spelled it wrong) Kachan gives him a smark calling him a loser and telling him he won't make it into the school once again. Everyone else at the school already had the sports festival and about to get into them getting there licence. Deku having the villains on his side helped him get in on a late start. When he gets into his classroom he see's a girl name urocu (sorry if that's not how you spell it) Now he Imelda falls in love and trys to go up to her to talk to her. But gets stopped by the bell that class is starting. The teacher says there's a new student and says come up to the front deku. Deku says his name is misuku not deku and says he's excited to be here. Kachan taints him starting to laugh and says a loser like you quirk less will never make it that far. The teacher tells the class to settle down as deku goes back to his seat kachan trips him and he ends up falling on his face. He stands back up and sits back into his seat. When its lunch deku goes outside the school to only meet his villain Friend's. They tell deku that they will descuse what he has do today with them at midnight because he has to pay his deit for all this. Now his deit is that when they need him he has to server them anytime they ask for, for the rest of his life. Deku shakes his head and goes back to the seats eating his lunch when a girl sits next to him named urocu. (sorry if that's spelled wrong) He starts blushing and says wha- H- hi uh what are you uhh doing here. Urocu goes on and says I'm here to sit with you. Your the new student right. Deku goes on to say y-ya I am but what about your other friends don't you want to sit with them. Uruko says nope I wanna sit with you. After school deku goes home and meets All for one with the portal guy and takes deku to there secret base. All for one shows deku around and introduces the plan to him. He needs to get intell on kachan so they can try and make him apart of this group. Deku goes on with what they plan and sneaks into the school at night listening to the principals, All Might, and his teachers conversation about going to the place to train to be a hero. Deku reports back to him the next day about this info and goes to school the following day the teacher tells the student there on a trip tommarow and will have get ready for that today. At lunch kachan meets deku and takes him to an ally. Kachan grabs him by his collar and says that how did a quirk less loser like you get into this school. Deku pissed starts to turn on his power and the fight starts.
That's all for now I got for ya sorry that its very long
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But I think sometimes we really underestimating his values. He would become a real villain no matter his amount of dismay in which he has stated himself. Deku would NEVER become a villain because if u take away his quirk, experience and hope, you still have his core morals and ideology which would never allow him to commit acts of wrong. I also lastly think that deku would never become a vigilante either. We can imagine it all we want but it is indisputable that he would not be able to make a change without a quirk. The support items only go so far and that’s only when you have a quirk for them to support. If deku never got one for all he would just assume a normal life as a policeman or something. To think that he would so easily faulter from his ideas is just wrong
And lastly I study the human psychology so I something about human behavior
As much as I agree with the fact that Izuku has a very low chance of ever becoming a villain because of his strong moral compass and ideologies, I do believe he's reckless enough to help people by becoming a vigilante. And him not having a quirk doesn't actually effect much, seeing as Eraserhead became an underground hero (and a very good one to boot) with only a quirk that erases other quirks, and not all of them. If he can be a hero, fighting essentially quirkless, I think Izuku could be one too, seeing as his analysis is almost as good as Aizawa's quirk when it comes to fighting. He could effectively nullify his opponents quirk by outwitting them and putting them in a situation when he could out maneuver them or stop them from using their quirk.
@@peachywarrior5258 first of all saying that Aizawa is essentially quirkless is dumbest shit I’ve heard. His power is to erase powers. How in god’s name is that quirkless, he was a big factor in the overhaul fight and basically carried everyone in this war arc
@@peachywarrior5258 second, Izuku would never make it as a vigilante. I swear y’all be hyping him up so bad like no. Deku is, at best, a scrawny dude with quick smarts. Without a quirk, he is essentially powerless. Plus, all the villains we’ve seen are BROKEN. Overhaul, Shigiraki, AFO, Dabi and the rest of em. The hero support items are SUPPORT items. They do not have their own powers.
Basically what I’m saying is, he wouldn’t have become a villain or vigilante, and even if he did, he wouldn’t last. He is not super smart, he would have either no or the weakest drive, and he wouldn’t be strong enough to actually change anything.
It’s just not happening
@@tobiasthexiv534 Okay, for your first point, I'm not saying Aizawa is quirkless or is essentially quirkless, I'm saying he has to fight quirkless, like he has no combat quirk. He has a support quirk at best, and has to take down the villains with support items and his fists like any other dude. I'm just saying that because he has to take down villains with his fists and feet, others can too, and Izuku is smart enough to even the playing field in different ways.
For your second point, I'm also not saying he could go from the first episode version of him straight into vigilante-ism. He'd have to train his mind and body to get to a point where he could make a difference when fighting other people with quirks. He DEFINITELY cannot go against any of the League of Villains right off the bat, or soon at all. I'm just saying that vigilante!Izuku is a possibility if you structure his growth right. Again, like you said, he has quick smarts. If he trains that, plus his analytical ability to use in quick combat, he could potentially maneuver situations to his benefit and be able to fight off low-level crooks.
It's possible, but like any of the possible options he could have taken from the first episode, it take a huge amount of time. 10 months to be strong enough to even hold One for All, he'd take double or even triple to be up to a decent fighting standard withtout a quirk.
@@tobiasthexiv534 Plus, being vigilante means being on a whole scale of grey, which means taking out someone like Shigaraki would be as easy as, "get fast and strong enough to cut off his hands before he can touch you". Steal from the support course, or even ask for it, and make bombs or grenades. Get fireproof clothing and bulletproof vests. There's lots of things on the table if your moral compass is now dependent on something other than the law.
That thumbnail of Deku losing his mind is like he’s becoming the MHA equivalent of the Joker.
Everyone forgets that Midorya gave up until Allmight came back after slimetime. He never trained or was thinking of training, he's a fanboy and good natured and his mom is a great support.
I never understood the love of villain Deku
Actally Izuku at the age of 4 started traing his mind shortly afther he was told he was qurikless and Bakuhoe started his tormenting. (Mabye as a way of coping Idk) but yeah he isn't just a fanboy who didn't bother traing. In fact he has 13 notebooks filled with information on countless hero's and their deeply analyzed quriks along with ways to better it and counter them. All nootbooks he made during his mind training from the age of four to 14.
Also side note Izuku even afther getting One for all still keeps up with his mind traing. He even made a fourth notebook and has written down all his classmates quriks and and weaknesses along with ways to counter thier quirks.and or better them.
Izuku is pretty much the fusion of batman and spiderman, lol.
Also side not Izuku wasn't ready to give up and lost a lot of Faith that he had a chance and as such was for the first time making a back up in case he didn't get into Ua but that's it. Even if all might didn't say he could be a hero he still singed up for the hero course and would of srill tried to pass. Hell even without one for all he still would of got into UA as he passed thw written class. Tho he most deftly would of failed the entrance exam and would be placed in the support class or genral studies like Shindo.
There are already fan comics with different versions of evil Midoriya.
I think that without a quirk, Deku would have found a way to prove he didn't need a quirk to be a hero.
I think that because of how driven Deku is to becoming someone who can save people, even being shut down by All Might himself, he'd become the most active vigilante ever, instead of a villain.
He and Stain would've crossed paths sooner because of similar ideals and maybe even been mentored by him. Deku being as pure-hearted as he is, would sway (or at least try to sway) Stain's recklessness in killing heroes, despite their unjust want for glory instead of saving people. Maybe Deku's excuse would be that the heroes just need a better example to follow, referring to himself, rather than just being told that heroes' ideals are wrong (which is what Stain did before becoming a villain).
Deku might not want outright revenge on All Might for turning him away, especially since he didn't learn during their first encounter that he, too, was quirkless (that would've been fuel for hatred). But I bet he'd be more similarly driven like Bakugo to one-up All Might and prove him wrong as a vigilante.
Like you said, Deku would get a lot of crap for being unlawful, but he'd do his best analyzing foes for the heroes and passing on that info, possibly manipulating other heroes with it so that it would discretely prioritize saving lives over glory.
Although, with this alternate plot, I don't see much of a rivalry happening between Bakugo and Deku. And there'd be a ton of character development dominoes that would be left unfallen without Deku making it to the hero course (Shoto recognizing his own power, Iida recognizing the importance of saving others, Bakugo's initial growth in not blaming himself for All Might's retirement and possibly turning villain, etc.)
So for the second idea, deku would get into ua as a spy for afo after he gives him a quirk and deku would be the traitor, oh and deku could see shigi as an older brother
He was never quirkless... Here's how. If Toga's quirk makes her love blood then Deku's personality is being like or surpassing someone, for example,
he wants to be like All Might. If u dont get it. Quirks can make someones personality for them. Like Togas quirk and her personality. Hes quirk was prolly stolen from that doctor. Hes quirk is prolly Ignite or Mimic. For Ignite, hes parents quirk will explain it.
This mAkEs a lot of sense.......
This is my headcanon as well, that his quirk was stolen. Further, I believe we have seen his quirk in the show.
Combining fire breath with attraction, we get an inhale power - just like the four eyed Nomu at the Hosu attack.
I feel like deku would be an anti hero and still look up to all might and I feel like he would be like stain but wouldn’t kill anyone but leave them with broken bones just like a western comic book hero everyone knows
I think your villain Deku theories are accurate and make a lot of sense good job
Bro we need you writing a manga, because wtf this is actually gold & something I want to read!
Quirkless villian deku now imagine if deku was trained by stain now that's a deadly version of deku.
Plus ultra man did that but not in a that way
These both need to be spin-offs right now.
If deku did become a quirkless vigilante like batman I feel like stain would look at him and be like "wait your quirkless but you want to help people so much you became a vigilante? -__- your mine now" and that's how deku gets adopted by stain lol
Personally, I love thinking about the what ifs and the alternate plots of tv shows, movies, and books. So, this hits home for me
This makes me think of the fanfic, Apotheosis, where Izuku creates the infinity gauntlet and uses it to change hero society as whole.
I LOVE THAT FANFIC!!!
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ngl i wouldn't mind if the story went like this it's interesting ngl and not really generic yk
My au is that all for one is deku's father and instead of him leaving him his mother left him because she found out about AFO secret idenity after that he would raise deku to be his successor(also he gives deku a quirk afters discovering he was quirkless) AFO taught young midoriya to hate heros when midoriya reached the age when he was going to go to high school he enrolled in UA's hero course (getting in through recommendation) so he could infiltrate UA and assist in helping LOV get into the building but midoriya ends up making friends at UA(Shoto,Kirishima,and ochokra) and trys to turn them to the dark side he won over shoto and kirishima but ochakro ended up stabbing him in the back and telling the pros and midoriya was taken into custody along w/ shoto and kirishima. This is all I've decided so far ill edit it when i decide how to continue the storry :D
"Despair cause I am here!"
-Spawn Deku
0:32????? He's the 9th holder of OFA, not 7th
Oh no 😱 he mad a minor mistake that I don’t think really matters
@@itookthewooockkk5200 it's kinda a weird mistake to make but it doesn't matter. Like people calling one for all, all for one. Strange to hear but you know what they mean.
Actually in a recent upload, I dont remember which one, he made a theory that the two other OFA users aren't actually users so he made the theory of deku actually being the 7th
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Any story I have seen with deku becoming a villain are always super compelling
The timeline in which Deku's interesting.
If this all happened in real life, Deku would have more broken bones than Evel Knievel. In a matter of 3 years compared to a life-time.
Makes me think oh the one shot that became myhero. Since the original deku was a business man who works for a company that made hero items but he had no powers so he would use items he mod to try and fight crime. The pilot chapter is very nice read plus the hero snipe is from it.
Hero Izuku: I have OFA
Quirkless villain Izuku: Well I know how to make a tie
Hero Izuku: *surprised pikachu face*
Oh wow cool what if
I think Deku has a quirk for analyzing situations, and it is passive.
Or the tears
Imagine a character like this in MHA world having a deep friendship like Harry Potter band Sirius Black
I'd imagine that at the entrance exam he fails to save Uraka and he gives up his dream.
Man I'm too early for the good comments
Honestly, I'm shifting too more Black Clover information. Even if the story is made up or just updates. Don't get me wrong l like this but after the latest update on Black Clover you made all l want is more.
The thing most appealing about villain Deku, is that he would have an interesting relationship with Toga
Yeah, especially since they were shoved away from society and ostracized just for merely existing and thrown down the wrong path because society refused to help them and facilitate to their needs. I think it'd be sweet if Izuku feared Toga's infatuation with blood at first but upon knowing more about her and how they even relate to one another, Izuku's fear would diminish and he'd be the first to truley accept her with her love for blood and all. Or if we're going for a more maniacal Izuku, i could see there being a sorta Joker and Harley Quinn dynamic which could be chaotic but still fun and still relatively interesting if explored enough.
there is a fanfiction story covering this idea. events play out like the original until midoria talks to all might on the rooftop. instead of midora getting involved with the sludge guy assuming that either all might didn't drop the bottle or took care of him after midoria has gose back to the roof top and jump only to be saved by Stain. Stain saw Midoria's note books and was able to piece together the story and trains Midora to become a quirkless villain. The characters well written. The grammar could use some work either because it's writen by a kid or someone who has English as a second language may be both but it's worth the read.
I don't run an orphanage
First episode of my hero academia, I thought it was going to be a show about midoriya defying all odds and being the first person to ever enter the UA hero course without a quirk. I thought he would then solidify his position by defeating others in his class not with a quirk but with how much knowledge he has of their quirks and weaknesses, so he’d win by just being smart and observing. I was kind of disappointed when he received one for all because I would’ve loved an underdog story and deku just destroying the status quo of hero society but I still do like what it is.
fanfiction my friend fanfiction
There was actually a draft from the original version of MHA where Deku is a quirkless vigilante but much older.
@@Patrick-nq9ij middle aged accountant with asthma and no one had quirks also instead of villains they had monster that where basically natural disasters you can fight
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AFO would be like thanos taking in Deku and Shigaraki (Gamora and Nebula)
Has anyone seen the alternate deku manga where instead of All Might, All For One actually was the one who found him. So in addition to all these, he has a darker version of One for all, possessing several powers
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Me, not that much
I would really like to see more of your take on what Deku would be like as a villain, as I’m really hooked on to what you said in this vid
Bro that was so good
god, in the event of the last scenario, if deku got into the hero course with a quirk from AfO while in kahoots with the league, that would be a fantastic au. like, essentially deku-is-the-traitor au, mixed in with deku using the skills and training from ua to eventually use against the pros. he'd have a very intimate understanding of how the inner workings of hero agencies and strategies to turn against them, and being so close to so many pros would leave them much more vulnerable compared to spying from other villains. plus, like you said, the arch-nemesis relationship between bakugou and bakugou becoming the true "good guy" of the story would be fantastic. imagine the development between those two and the way they're now building off of eachother, but knowing that secretly deku was betraying bakugou the entire time. like, just as bakugou is finally accepting that working with deku doesn't necessarily equate to being looked down on and being pitied, deku is actually turning against him and manipulating him. the whole scenario would absolutely wreck both characters emotionally i think, as well as the entire cast once the pieces of the puzzle finally fell into place, but god it would be amazing to watch. if that was a story written by horikoshi, i can imagine he'd probably go for a big dabi-touya-esque reveal, but i think it would be just so compelling if instead deku stayed in the shadows and just gradually began to pull more and more strings (like a death note sort of story, with deku as light and everyone else being like the investigation team), until before long almost everyone important knew but couldn't do anything. omg the idea of a death note-bnha hybrid situation is so amazing
Bro imma need you to continue this story
Imagine if there was a universe where deku just trains so hard that he becomes one punch man
You don't need super powers to be a hero......you also don't need super powers to be a villain either.
I'm getting flashbacks to a fanfiction called The Anarchist. It was a freaking beautiful work, beautiful I say! Next I want villain Shoto Todoroki, by the way.
I personally think that one of the best quirkless villain deku stories is mastermind strategist for hire, in it Izuku’s dreams are crushed and he ends up on the dark web and sees a post about killing the up and coming hero mt lady. He then spirals due to extreme quirkism and the friendly actions of the villains. It also embraces the effect that he, as a quirkless s rank villain, has on society
It would be awesome to see Hirokoshi do a spinoff "What if" series.
I feel like the deal would be for deku to share all of his information because It can be very valuable to know fighting styles especially of one of the ua students. plus if all might said that to deku they can use that to sway the media to question all might, another thing being is to maybe get bakugo to join the leauge because dekus there *or* to make ua kick/punish bakugo (mostly for suic!de baiting but also bullying harshly especially with quirk) before an attack so they dont have to worry about one of the stronger students because he is very scary and strong for his age