James and Al have nailed this series - look forward to more Walking The Ground at other major battlefields! Oh, and a nudge to the US History Underground Chap, another outstanding from the foxhole series!!
For me these videos are the most informative way of learning about a battle. The WHW pod, readable and listenable books are great, but walking the ground like this brings it to life so much more.
Wow. This was great! Too short by half but, it has cleared up alot of the confusion I had about why this failed so badly. Paul Woodage did a live stream from here a few months ago, but I couldn't get a feel for topography and direction. Now I can visualize it much better. Don't you wish cameras could give you a better feel for distance, though? Very nicely done professors. I could listen to you guys all day.
A huge thanks for making this series. Reading accounts is one thing, to actually be able to see where the battles were, the terrain they had to deal with etc really brings a new depth of understanding.
I'm really enjoying this series. It seems to me that only if the 30th Corps had reached Arnhem on D+2, as was the plan, the Allies would have had a chance to win. I'm with Al Murray on this, protecting a drop zone in the opposite direction from Arnhem was a mistake. If, on D-Day, everyone had raced for and secured their objectives with alacrity, there might have been a chance. Part of 1st Airborne did reach Arnhem and the entire division certainly could have done the same thing. The Allies wasted time and thereby lost the battle.
Stug Brigade 280. On 17 September the brigade was loaded onto two trains in Varde, for transport to Aachen. However, when the trains were near Hamburg that night, the order was given to change the route to Bocholt: intervention was necessary because of the Allied airborne landings at Arnhem. On 19 September a battery with 7x StuG III and 3x StuH42 arrived there and intervened successfully in the following week, in the fighting against the paratroopers of the British 1st Airborne Division. Arnhem was done, Brits could not get to the bridge via Utrechtseweg and Onderlangs. Rest is history.
Damn that's an amazing cliff hanger. You guys are learning as you walk. You'll be Hollywood directors by the time you finish back at the Hartenstein. Amazing work. Will you be doing the basement of the museum with the walk through the battle. It's an amazing experience.
Not sure of the veracity of this anecdote, but remembered it when telefonists got brought up. During all the communication problems for the Paratroopers, the Dutch telephone system was still running and people could just call by phone from Arnhem to liberated Eindhoven.
There are a number of such stories - the bridging requirements at Son were communicated by civilian telephone line between Aalst and Son thanks to an unsupervised Dutch switchboard operator making a call on her own initiative established the link. A message from Arnhem was passed to a telephone in the 505th's area at Groesbeek that let Corps HQ know things were not going well at Arnhem. And for months after the battle the Germans still had not discovered the internal phone system used by the PGEM power company, an advanced system using the transmission lines. Most incredibly, the German Sicherheits Dienst or SD (the SS security service) occupied a building in Arnhem on the main Utrechsstraat that contained the switch gear for the internal telephone system. The resistance, who had members working for PGEM, were allowed access to the building for routine mainentnance of 'essential equipment' and were making phone calls to other cells literally under the SD's noses.
I was lucky enough to have met a lady called Ann Buchanan (nee Shackleton, a relative of Ernest) who was related to Alan Buchanan, a chaplin with the Sth Staffs. She had talked with him over the years of the carnage that the boys mentioned in Arnhem and then his time prison camp XIB along with many of the others. Apparently he got pretty friendly with an officer (possibly commandant?) at the camp so that when the liberation of the camp came, that individual surrendered to Alan and gave him his Luger pistol. At some stage (possibly near the end of his life) Alan gave this pistol to Ann before she was heading to Ireland (by ferry). On arriving into Dun Laoghaire harbour she said she panicked (for obvious reasons carrying a hand-gun!!) and threw it overboard into the sea!!
Terrific stuff lads! Don’t think I’ve ever heard the battle described so clearly. Like you, every time I hear or read about it I hope the Brits win this time (btw, has Janes had a couple of cold drinks? He seems to be channeling the Pub Landlord)
Thanks for another brilliant video, really comes to life and allows us to see what was going on. It also reminds me to visit Arnhem town hall with a road paint contractor because those roads are covered in the stuff and will need touching up soon.
In the 1990's, I caught an interview on Canada AM with 3 Canadian vets from Arnhem. They were trapped in the top story of a house. They fired their Lee Enfields so much, the guns got so hot they had to kick the bolts open. Lee Enfield actions are butter smooth.
Just finished reading Charles Whitings book A Bridge at Arnhem to complement this fantastic series. The contents which include the escapes after the battle are mond numbing in their heroics and desperation but also so sad and frustrating.....if only....and Monty the architect of this and the vanity portrayed in the book by him is absolutely horrendous I feel....
Seen the film, read the books, but it was always too confusing for me to understand. Your simple chat gives me a far better idea of the horrific situation these poor chaps found themselves in.
When the Tigers of the 503rd and 506th heavy panzer battalions were sent to the area it wasn't just a case of loading them on to flatcars.they would have had to be de-tracked and refitted with transport tracks for width reasons and the whole process repeated at their destination, an amazing amount of time and effort,
It was the s.Pz.Abt.506 from Ohrdruf and Kompanie 'Hummel' from s.Pz.Abt.500 at Paderborn. James got his notes not quite right. s.Pz.Abt.503 were in refit until 19 September and then entrained for Budapest.
Liked subscribed and all that jazz. Oh, and did anyone in command actually think the war would be over by Christmas, or was that just a shibboleth of the officer corps to keep away the dark thoughts.
We wrestled with this throughout planning and editing. The thing with Operation Market Garden, unlike say Normandy, is things are happening all at once over differing locations. So it’s clearer to follow actions rather than time.
So the truth is. Urquhart was in exactly the right place to make an appraisal and a plan to get the battalions through. He knew where to be, but just didn't get the chance to make the plan and organise the push through. So close. But I still feel that without effective comms it'd be an extremely difficult proposition at best. God bless.
What James is alluding to is the inherent ability of German staff work and command and control at the tactical level to align your available forces to block, separate and neutralise a threat in very short order. Unfortunately this leads us back to the question why were the Germans able to do this?...... As has been said before over confidence and no effective use of airpower to interdict. The senior COC air and land are fully to blame for this. This was largely sorted on the Rhine crossing but 6th Airbourne were a completely different animal from top to bottom.
good show again a piece is missing .. A the first day of the jump LTZ Wolters wqs landed in Anrhem to get the restitance help the 1 Para .. But 1 para did not justed him so , the restitance men ( KP Kruyff the best of our best ) vansihed .. ( i you don,r truths us we leave you _0 do to Monty do to Thee Englandspiel so the Engelish armmy shot it self 2 time in your own foot ( engliedspiel was a set up by the xx(lcs ) comite lead by Chruchill) Then Deeln fliegerhorst is on place where you stand 8 clicks away not much .. And the Radertroops on the Veluwe had guard troops there were also send in to Arnhem .. Emmerich ( wher ei live a look at there bridge ) is at most 20 km away from Arnhem .. And again Nijmger had Wesel and a reailaoad aginst it ( after market garden ) you have a battle of the Reichswald followed by a battle of the height around Xanten after that only then the 21 army group can move to the Rine ...right ..
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I love this format of two informed mates discussing this key battle in history. Excellent.
James and Al have nailed this series - look forward to more Walking The Ground at other major battlefields! Oh, and a nudge to the US History Underground Chap, another outstanding from the foxhole series!!
Anything that involves james and al is always going to be great to watch and learn from.
You’re walking through my street!!! Alexanderstraat in Arnhem 😊
I live in Renkum and it's quite fun to get a WWII history tour through our area this way!
@@Jeroen_K ja bijzonder om te zien!
For me these videos are the most informative way of learning about a battle. The WHW pod, readable and listenable books are great, but walking the ground like this brings it to life so much more.
These uploads of Market Garden, has me wanting to dig out the Microsoft Close Combat A Bridge Too Far game!.👍
That was a brilliant game!
Oh memories
Best video yet. Just finished Al's book and the bottle neck issue has become really clear. Looking forward to the next one
Wow. This was great! Too short by half but, it has cleared up alot of the confusion I had about why this failed so badly. Paul Woodage did a live stream from here a few months ago, but I couldn't get a feel for topography and direction. Now I can visualize it much better. Don't you wish cameras could give you a better feel for distance, though? Very nicely done professors. I could listen to you guys all day.
Keep them coming lads, you can tell this is a real passion project. Great stuff.
This is essentially the best alternative to actually walking the ground. Simply amazing.
A huge thanks for making this series. Reading accounts is one thing, to actually be able to see where the battles were, the terrain they had to deal with etc really brings a new depth of understanding.
Loved every minute of this
Explanation of every move from both sides perfect
Well done lads
Excellent as ever but kudos to the many Dutch cyclists who are very patient to YOU, Mr Murray, intruding on their very visible cycle path 😮
I'm really enjoying this series. It seems to me that only if the 30th Corps had reached Arnhem on D+2, as was the plan, the Allies would have had a chance to win. I'm with Al Murray on this, protecting a drop zone in the opposite direction from Arnhem was a mistake. If, on D-Day, everyone had raced for and secured their objectives with alacrity, there might have been a chance. Part of 1st Airborne did reach Arnhem and the entire division certainly could have done the same thing. The Allies wasted time and thereby lost the battle.
Yep, literally everything depended on surprise and avoiding delay. Ruthless Teutonic logistic capability being another significant factor.
Just Brilliant! Thank you Guys ;)
Stug Brigade 280. On 17 September the brigade was loaded onto two trains in Varde, for transport to Aachen. However, when the trains were near Hamburg that night, the order was given to change the route to Bocholt: intervention was necessary because of the Allied airborne landings at Arnhem. On 19 September a battery with 7x StuG III and 3x StuH42 arrived there and intervened successfully in the following week, in the fighting against the paratroopers of the British 1st Airborne Division. Arnhem was done, Brits could not get to the bridge via Utrechtseweg and Onderlangs. Rest is history.
Great job as always guys,fantastic perspective.
Damn that's an amazing cliff hanger. You guys are learning as you walk. You'll be Hollywood directors by the time you finish back at the Hartenstein. Amazing work. Will you be doing the basement of the museum with the walk through the battle. It's an amazing experience.
Another great episode, the brickworks were deadly
Amazing video guys, explained simply by experts...for folks like me...Love it...:)
Great video as always.
Not sure of the veracity of this anecdote, but remembered it when telefonists got brought up.
During all the communication problems for the Paratroopers, the Dutch telephone system was still running and people could just call by phone from Arnhem to liberated Eindhoven.
There are a number of such stories - the bridging requirements at Son were communicated by civilian telephone line between Aalst and Son thanks to an unsupervised Dutch switchboard operator making a call on her own initiative established the link. A message from Arnhem was passed to a telephone in the 505th's area at Groesbeek that let Corps HQ know things were not going well at Arnhem. And for months after the battle the Germans still had not discovered the internal phone system used by the PGEM power company, an advanced system using the transmission lines. Most incredibly, the German Sicherheits Dienst or SD (the SS security service) occupied a building in Arnhem on the main Utrechsstraat that contained the switch gear for the internal telephone system. The resistance, who had members working for PGEM, were allowed access to the building for routine mainentnance of 'essential equipment' and were making phone calls to other cells literally under the SD's noses.
I was lucky enough to have met a lady called Ann Buchanan (nee Shackleton, a relative of Ernest) who was related to Alan Buchanan, a chaplin with the Sth Staffs. She had talked with him over the years of the carnage that the boys mentioned in Arnhem and then his time prison camp XIB along with many of the others. Apparently he got pretty friendly with an officer (possibly commandant?) at the camp so that when the liberation of the camp came, that individual surrendered to Alan and gave him his Luger pistol. At some stage (possibly near the end of his life) Alan gave this pistol to Ann before she was heading to Ireland (by ferry). On arriving into Dun Laoghaire harbour she said she panicked (for obvious reasons carrying a hand-gun!!) and threw it overboard into the sea!!
Al, don't become the last casualty by standing in the cycle lane, those Dutch bikers don't take any prisoners 😁
Terrific stuff lads! Don’t think I’ve ever heard the battle described so clearly. Like you, every time I hear or read about it I hope the Brits win this time (btw, has Janes had a couple of cold drinks? He seems to be channeling the Pub Landlord)
Thanks for another brilliant video, really comes to life and allows us to see what was going on. It also reminds me to visit Arnhem town hall with a road paint contractor because those roads are covered in the stuff and will need touching up soon.
In the 1990's, I caught an interview on Canada AM with 3 Canadian vets from Arnhem. They were trapped in the top story of a house. They fired their Lee Enfields so much, the guns got so hot they had to kick the bolts open. Lee Enfield actions are butter smooth.
Great series gents
Great to follow along on Street View.
Marvellous as usual . :)
Excellent!👍💪
Just finished reading Charles Whitings book A Bridge at Arnhem to complement this fantastic series. The contents which include the escapes after the battle are mond numbing in their heroics and desperation but also so sad and frustrating.....if only....and Monty the architect of this and the vanity portrayed in the book by him is absolutely horrendous I feel....
@chrisarnold4709 Monty the architect? Try Browning and Brereton for a more accurate awnser.
I had exactly the same sense of things as Al when I first visited the bottleneck 30 years ago.
At this point the Onderlangs and Utrectseweg become like the valley of death & charge of the light brigade
Seen the film, read the books, but it was always too confusing for me to understand. Your simple chat gives me a far better idea of the horrific situation these poor chaps found themselves in.
When the Tigers of the 503rd and 506th heavy panzer battalions were sent to the area it wasn't just a case of loading them on to flatcars.they would have had to be de-tracked and refitted with transport tracks for width reasons and the whole process repeated at their destination, an amazing amount of time and effort,
It was the s.Pz.Abt.506 from Ohrdruf and Kompanie 'Hummel' from s.Pz.Abt.500 at Paderborn. James got his notes not quite right. s.Pz.Abt.503 were in refit until 19 September and then entrained for Budapest.
Liked subscribed and all that jazz. Oh, and did anyone in command actually think the war would be over by Christmas, or was that just a shibboleth of the officer corps to keep away the dark thoughts.
love this
Brilliant, but it would help if there was some kind of chronological order given to the episodes !!!
We wrestled with this throughout planning and editing. The thing with Operation Market Garden, unlike say Normandy, is things are happening all at once over differing locations. So it’s clearer to follow actions rather than time.
What a beautiful town Arnerm is today, I wonder did it suffer much during and after the battle
So the truth is. Urquhart was in exactly the right place to make an appraisal and a plan to get the battalions through. He knew where to be, but just didn't get the chance to make the plan and organise the push through. So close. But I still feel that without effective comms it'd be an extremely difficult proposition at best. God bless.
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How Al got through that without close lining a cyclist is beyond me 😂
What James is alluding to is the inherent ability of German staff work and command and control at the tactical level to align your available forces to block, separate and neutralise a threat in very short order. Unfortunately this leads us back to the question why were the Germans able to do this?...... As has been said before over confidence and no effective use of airpower to interdict. The senior COC air and land are fully to blame for this. This was largely sorted on the Rhine crossing but 6th Airbourne were a completely different animal from top to bottom.
Fantastic stuff, the Dutch it seems really like there Volvos
@@SteveR-w1q They do! The Walking The Ground mobile for this very shoot was a rental XC90!
Thanks gents. Am I seeing things but are all those push bikes unchained?
Hold on, I LIVE HERE, why didn’t I know that the pub landlord was in town?
notice my comment got hidden, my like allied incompetence
Why there is a Finnish army flak gun crew picture at 4:40? Japanese would be better because at least they were at Axis side during Market Garden.
Let Al speak more plz
I love watching these videos, but the wat James wears his denison drives me crazy. Do your snaps up for crying out loud.😃
good show again a piece is missing ..
A the first day of the jump LTZ Wolters wqs landed in Anrhem to get the restitance help the 1 Para ..
But 1 para did not justed him so , the restitance men ( KP Kruyff the best of our best ) vansihed ..
( i you don,r truths us we leave you _0 do to Monty do to Thee Englandspiel so the Engelish armmy shot it self 2 time in your own foot ( engliedspiel was a set up by the xx(lcs ) comite lead by Chruchill)
Then Deeln fliegerhorst is on place where you stand 8 clicks away not much ..
And the Radertroops on the Veluwe had guard troops there were also send in to Arnhem ..
Emmerich ( wher ei live a look at there bridge ) is at most 20 km away from Arnhem ..
And again Nijmger had Wesel and a reailaoad aginst it
( after market garden ) you have a battle of the Reichswald followed by a battle of the height around Xanten after that only then the 21 army group can move to the Rine ...right ..
put it through the Google translation back and forth first..and see if it still makes sense...
"Don't trust the German figures, but of course you can trust our PROUD British figures". Baloney.
Please produce your own !
At the end of this would be great to watch a conversation on what could have been done differently