Every called shot you make and naming the thing you're most vulnerable to in your present game state is always so delightful! It really demonstrates your mastery and is a wonderfully dramatic inclusion in the narration, too!
It was fun to watch somebody else take this for a spin. Thanks Brian! 1:00:28 Petal, Petal, Entomb, Reanimate? Or, Petal, Reanimate Yorion to flicker Archon to save it from the Shallow Grave delayed trigger and get a fresh ETB trigger? Yes, they could Karakas it, but the net is they get a Yorion in hand and you get an Archon to hang out on the board. Your critter is better and in a better spot. And you end up winning like 90 seconds later so...whatever. :)
Seems to me that this deck would benefit from some Careful Study or similar. As you've pointed out, there's some tension where Entomb + Show doesn't get you there, and Reanimate + Creature doesn't get you there either. Careful helps bridge your "B"s with your "2"s by letting you pitch a creature in hand when you're holding a Reanimation spell. Another sweet option might be Jace, Vrynn's Prodigy. He has the looting to bridge your B's with your 2's, and then when he flips he can rebuy Entomb, Show and Tell, Reanimate, and more.
I was thinking either that or Collective Brutality, yeah - deck could deffo use a way to get a monster from your hand to the graveyard (other than thoughtseizing yourself - tho tbh, even having all 4 thoughtseize in with the expectation that you'll occasionally target yourself might help lol)
@@jacefairis1289 Brutality is criminally underutilized in Reanimator lists IMO. Deals with several forms of both onboard and in-hand disruption while also being a discard outlet.
JVP, Strix, Snapcaster, Ashiok, Sorin, Narset...I've experimented with all of them. By the time this deck can protect a palaneswalker, you've probably won the game. And the little critters that would protect them are a pain because if they get killed in response to a Shallow Grave, they're the thing that comes back instead of the "win the game" monster you intended. I've commented in response to others on more detail why Careful Study sucks and also thoughts on Collective Brutality.
@@Shulwelld Chart a Course kinda needs something little like a Strix to be of value. Optional discard would be good, but obligatory discard can be real bad. This deck is already a magnet for Surgical, and if you have something like 2 S&T's it feels real bad to discard the extra only to have a Surgical come for it.
23:42 You actually didn't need to draw an extra 7 bc you knew you had grizzy + sheoldred coming. So the infinite draw combo you mentioned was on deck. Drawing an extra 7 actually turned it off since you then didn't have enough life to activate grizzy again
There wasn't a Force in the 5 put on top with the Vault. Drawing the extra 7 sees enough cards to make it way more likely the S&T for Omni is protected. The Archon ETB put him to 8, and I'm sure the plan after the Atraxa trigger was to draw most of the deck. There was way more popping off to do there but the opponent scooped to kill the fun.
That elves game where you sat on LD'sV for multiple turns hurt deeply. I know it's a VT half the time, but there can be more than one useful card in the 5 you see lol
41:20 Intuition also works with Show and Tell, albeit very slowly. Lim Duls Vault is kinda on the other side of the spectrum that expressive iteration is-much better selection, but card disadvantage rather than card advantage. Might not be good enough for legacy anymore. Makes me wonder how good Mystical Tutor would be right now in Legacy, probably still banworthy.
Can we see this deck again? I actually just took my show and tell deck and my ub reanimator and just made this. 1 shallow grave short. I really like the multiple angles. I really feel like lim duls vault is broken because in 3 of 8 matches so far I’ve played. I was able to stack the top five and secure a turn 3 monster everytime.
Careful Study underperforms here. Brainstorm and Ponder are the gold standard of selection. The slots for cantrips 9, 10, and 11 are the 2 LD Vaults and Intuition. Impulse over the Vault has the benefit of card neutral vs card negative and also can utilize Boseiju for the colorless to be uncounterable. LDV is turn 2 Vampiric Tutor to set up a turn 3 win. Both LDV and Impulse dodge Chalice on 1, which Careful Study does not.
I think there is an interesting discussion to be had when it comes to Shallow Grave vs Goryo's Vengeance vis a vis someone sticking an emrakul and another creature atop it with something like a Sudden Edict, but also that's such a niche interaction compared to the lack of Goryo's ability to return Archon. I dunno, something to think about. 1 am weird thoughts.
Why does this deck not play the fourth polluted delta over the second scalding tarn? An extra way to find a basic swamp seems more important than the t1 information? Or am I missing something?
Against the painter M2 G2, when your opponent didnt go for on board kill. knowing they had a bunch of hate cards. isn't is safer to go for the grind win instead of the kill. while it should work, if they dont know your exact 75, you could have something random. Their play doesn't seem unreasonable if you look at it as "how do I not lose" instead of "how do I win"
I do feel like this deck could do with *some* way to get a monster from your hand into the graveyard (other than thoughtseizing yourself). careful study or collective brutality, maybe?
Careful Study is trash in this list - I have a comment elsewhere in here with details as to why. Collective Brutality is an interesting idea I haven't tried. It'd be competing with probably the Thoughtseize slots in the main or the Sheoldred's Edict slots in the board. The Edicts exist to deal with pesky plainswalkers mainly - something that didn't come up in Brian's run. The fact that they clip opposing critters lies somewhere between a useful secondary feature and flavortext.
@@Joe__L yeah I'm not sure where to actually put brutality, but I think it would make the A+2 hands a lot less awkward to keep, and it's versatile enough as a force-check or removal for a delver that it's rarely a dead card
@@BoshNRoll I don't remember the exact timestamp, but one time you did this you Entomb'ed a dead Entomb, which I think is a slight inaccuracy. Exhume should be first to go, as it is actively helpful to the opponent and not you (imagine it going under a Dauthi), followed by Shallow Grave as it is just dead. Animate Dead has potential targets in the opponent's yard and could possibly do something actively useful, and Entomb has the functionality of deck thinning and triggering shuffles. That's why Exhume and Shallow Grave would be the first to go. And it's sad that I've got enough experience with this to have given it this much thought.
When you mentioned replacing anticipate with Lim-Duls vault, I thought of experimental augury instead It’s just anticipate with proliferate stapled to it, but using it to put an aether vial to 4 or 6 would’ve been devastating in matchup where you had it You mentioned using it as a vampiric tutor, I first thought that with all the 1-2 odd that it could be tainted pact but that won’t work and I always forget consultation is banned I really like the deck running multiple 1 ofs for a more toolbox aspect The sheldred’s edicts never came in either, but i feel like those are more for the mirror match
I think your ending comments on lim duls vault were not accurate. LDV is a lot more powerful than impulse, so you expect more from it than an impulse. In topdeck mode someone could LDV for a sheoldred, but they would rather hold it in case they draw A or 2.... Maybe it's a risk assessment issue, like you should just LDV for your single most powerful card than hoping to top deck half the combo.
When you sideboard in Boseiju every game it should be in the main. Why two lotus petal and no Dark Ritual? Damnation would have saved you in almost every game.
You are developing ThrabenU's superpower of materializing the card that beats you in your opponents hand
Shout out to Joe, always fun to watch Bosh play against and play this deck.
Plus the story of how he became a patron is hilarious.
Thanks!
@@Joe__L Do you remember which video it was that he played against this deck for the first time?
@@owen3953 Displacer Kitten just came out. Brian had a brew with it, Teferi, and Baubles and such to go infinite.
Every called shot you make and naming the thing you're most vulnerable to in your present game state is always so delightful! It really demonstrates your mastery and is a wonderfully dramatic inclusion in the narration, too!
Seriously, enough skill for all of us
It was fun to watch somebody else take this for a spin. Thanks Brian!
1:00:28 Petal, Petal, Entomb, Reanimate? Or, Petal, Reanimate Yorion to flicker Archon to save it from the Shallow Grave delayed trigger and get a fresh ETB trigger? Yes, they could Karakas it, but the net is they get a Yorion in hand and you get an Archon to hang out on the board. Your critter is better and in a better spot. And you end up winning like 90 seconds later so...whatever. :)
I love the theory behind this deck. Grindy combo is IMO one of the coolest ways to play magic.
32:15 is arguably better than the Darth Vadar "Nooo!!!"
Seems to me that this deck would benefit from some Careful Study or similar. As you've pointed out, there's some tension where Entomb + Show doesn't get you there, and Reanimate + Creature doesn't get you there either. Careful helps bridge your "B"s with your "2"s by letting you pitch a creature in hand when you're holding a Reanimation spell.
Another sweet option might be Jace, Vrynn's Prodigy. He has the looting to bridge your B's with your 2's, and then when he flips he can rebuy Entomb, Show and Tell, Reanimate, and more.
I was thinking either that or Collective Brutality, yeah - deck could deffo use a way to get a monster from your hand to the graveyard (other than thoughtseizing yourself - tho tbh, even having all 4 thoughtseize in with the expectation that you'll occasionally target yourself might help lol)
@@jacefairis1289 Brutality is criminally underutilized in Reanimator lists IMO. Deals with several forms of both onboard and in-hand disruption while also being a discard outlet.
JVP, Strix, Snapcaster, Ashiok, Sorin, Narset...I've experimented with all of them. By the time this deck can protect a palaneswalker, you've probably won the game. And the little critters that would protect them are a pain because if they get killed in response to a Shallow Grave, they're the thing that comes back instead of the "win the game" monster you intended. I've commented in response to others on more detail why Careful Study sucks and also thoughts on Collective Brutality.
I was thinking maybe chart a course or something like that?
@@Shulwelld Chart a Course kinda needs something little like a Strix to be of value. Optional discard would be good, but obligatory discard can be real bad. This deck is already a magnet for Surgical, and if you have something like 2 S&T's it feels real bad to discard the extra only to have a Surgical come for it.
This is everything I want in a legacy deck, holy hell i love it
Thanks!
G1 M1 if that happened in paper magic i would have accused my opponent of cheating.
I love this man. Legit I made show and tell and UB reanimated and I’ve been trying to find a good list to combine them
Bonkers ass gameplay. Man that Precognative ability you have is insane
23:42 You actually didn't need to draw an extra 7 bc you knew you had grizzy + sheoldred coming. So the infinite draw combo you mentioned was on deck. Drawing an extra 7 actually turned it off since you then didn't have enough life to activate grizzy again
There wasn't a Force in the 5 put on top with the Vault. Drawing the extra 7 sees enough cards to make it way more likely the S&T for Omni is protected. The Archon ETB put him to 8, and I'm sure the plan after the Atraxa trigger was to draw most of the deck. There was way more popping off to do there but the opponent scooped to kill the fun.
“Are you mulliganing Jam hands, or are you jamming?” is the new YOLO
Opponents getting a vampiric every turn was rough buddy. Thanks for the league!
R4 Opponent deciding the 3rd time was NOT the charm.
I didn't know what this meant until I watched the league. 😢
@@slay-thoven1357 Yeah, kept it a little vague on purpose. Good rebound tho!
Monsters...monsters everywhere.
32:15 i felt that
That elves game where you sat on LD'sV for multiple turns hurt deeply. I know it's a VT half the time, but there can be more than one useful card in the 5 you see lol
41:20 Intuition also works with Show and Tell, albeit very slowly. Lim Duls Vault is kinda on the other side of the spectrum that expressive iteration is-much better selection, but card disadvantage rather than card advantage. Might not be good enough for legacy anymore. Makes me wonder how good Mystical Tutor would be right now in Legacy, probably still banworthy.
Can we see this deck again? I actually just took my show and tell deck and my ub reanimator and just made this. 1 shallow grave short. I really like the multiple angles. I really feel like lim duls vault is broken because in 3 of 8 matches so far I’ve played. I was able to stack the top five and secure a turn 3 monster everytime.
Not having shallow grave has really shown btw. It’s a must have 1.
I wonder if a careful study or two in place of one or two of the cantrips is worthwhile. Might help those A and 2 openers.
Careful Study underperforms here. Brainstorm and Ponder are the gold standard of selection. The slots for cantrips 9, 10, and 11 are the 2 LD Vaults and Intuition. Impulse over the Vault has the benefit of card neutral vs card negative and also can utilize Boseiju for the colorless to be uncounterable. LDV is turn 2 Vampiric Tutor to set up a turn 3 win. Both LDV and Impulse dodge Chalice on 1, which Careful Study does not.
Sheoldred’s Edict is some good stuff
I may actually come back to magic for this desk. it looks sick and in a way, with all the 1 or 2 of's feels semi-vintagy
I think there is an interesting discussion to be had when it comes to Shallow Grave vs Goryo's Vengeance vis a vis someone sticking an emrakul and another creature atop it with something like a Sudden Edict, but also that's such a niche interaction compared to the lack of Goryo's ability to return Archon. I dunno, something to think about. 1 am weird thoughts.
Why does this deck not play the fourth polluted delta over the second scalding tarn? An extra way to find a basic swamp seems more important than the t1 information? Or am I missing something?
oof that round 2 hurt my soul.
UB reanimator will always be my deck, but this looks awesome. Might habe to sleeve it up!
I jam it in paper at my LGS just about every week. 74 of these same 75 (one sideboard tweak to adjust to the local vs online meta).
Against the painter M2 G2, when your opponent didnt go for on board kill. knowing they had a bunch of hate cards. isn't is safer to go for the grind win instead of the kill. while it should work, if they dont know your exact 75, you could have something random. Their play doesn't seem unreasonable if you look at it as "how do I not lose" instead of "how do I win"
Yeah, like, if there was a Blightsteel Colossus for some reason, then they don't win.
Little of column A, little of column 2
I do feel like this deck could do with *some* way to get a monster from your hand into the graveyard (other than thoughtseizing yourself). careful study or collective brutality, maybe?
Careful Study is trash in this list - I have a comment elsewhere in here with details as to why. Collective Brutality is an interesting idea I haven't tried. It'd be competing with probably the Thoughtseize slots in the main or the Sheoldred's Edict slots in the board. The Edicts exist to deal with pesky plainswalkers mainly - something that didn't come up in Brian's run. The fact that they clip opposing critters lies somewhere between a useful secondary feature and flavortext.
@@Joe__L yeah I'm not sure where to actually put brutality, but I think it would make the A+2 hands a lot less awkward to keep, and it's versatile enough as a force-check or removal for a delver that it's rarely a dead card
Do we have data on what video made Joe a patron? I’d love to watch that match
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Can you make a video with your brew of dimir reanimator?
Isn't entombing a dead card out of your deck under leyline a much smaller percentage than holding it to potentially brainstorm away later?
Depends on if you have time to invest and find a Brainstorm or need to maximize for live draws up front.
@@BoshNRoll I don't remember the exact timestamp, but one time you did this you Entomb'ed a dead Entomb, which I think is a slight inaccuracy. Exhume should be first to go, as it is actively helpful to the opponent and not you (imagine it going under a Dauthi), followed by Shallow Grave as it is just dead. Animate Dead has potential targets in the opponent's yard and could possibly do something actively useful, and Entomb has the functionality of deck thinning and triggering shuffles. That's why Exhume and Shallow Grave would be the first to go. And it's sad that I've got enough experience with this to have given it this much thought.
@27:50 shuffle and b-storm again to try to spike a petal and reanimate?
Lantern stops that.
List feels a little confused… I still like it
Also in the last game the opponent scooped, but you had vault in hand so you could have picked your top cards before drawing witb G daddy.
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When you mentioned replacing anticipate with Lim-Duls vault, I thought of experimental augury instead
It’s just anticipate with proliferate stapled to it, but using it to put an aether vial to 4 or 6 would’ve been devastating in matchup where you had it
You mentioned using it as a vampiric tutor, I first thought that with all the 1-2 odd that it could be tainted pact but that won’t work and I always forget consultation is banned
I really like the deck running multiple 1 ofs for a more toolbox aspect
The sheldred’s edicts never came in either, but i feel like those are more for the mirror match
I think your ending comments on lim duls vault were not accurate. LDV is a lot more powerful than impulse, so you expect more from it than an impulse. In topdeck mode someone could LDV for a sheoldred, but they would rather hold it in case they draw A or 2.... Maybe it's a risk assessment issue, like you should just LDV for your single most powerful card than hoping to top deck half the combo.
Bad beats 😂😂
When you sideboard in Boseiju every game it should be in the main. Why two lotus petal and no Dark Ritual? Damnation would have saved you in almost every game.
There is Boseiju in the main. You don’t always play against 5 blue decks.
Dark Ritual doesn't make blue mana for Show and Tell, Lotus Petal can fuel either plan.